UHD770 vs NVENC - Why you still NEED an iGPU even with RTX 3090!!!

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@SimonZerafa
@SimonZerafa 2 жыл бұрын
Also: Why not get the CPU with the iGPU anyway? If your GPU has issues, you need to use it elsewhere temporarily (troubleshoot another PC or whatever) then the PC with the CPU with iGPU will still work! 😀🤷🏽‍♂️
@MarcSchreiberRealtor
@MarcSchreiberRealtor 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 😀
@mastroitek
@mastroitek 2 жыл бұрын
Is what I always say. I like to spend those 10$ also 20$ more just to be sure that in case i have to troubleshoot, change GPU and so on, I still will be able to use my pc.
@xxR4in
@xxR4in 2 жыл бұрын
The cpus with out the intagrated usually have bigger memory cashes
@mastroitek
@mastroitek 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxR4in I don't know where you get this from but in the last 7y I did not hear of a single F SKUs with larger CPU cache compared to the standard or K SKUs
@Jeymez
@Jeymez 2 жыл бұрын
i agree
@chetan2577
@chetan2577 2 жыл бұрын
only channel i found who is focusing on content creators, rest of channels only target gaming. and actually highend gpu are meant not only for gaming, they are build for content creators too. really good content channel. subbed 👍
@アイリッシュパンク
@アイリッシュパンク 10 ай бұрын
This made a huge impact!! I saw some video saying I should deactivate my internal GPU so that my RTX 4090 would get all the work load. A load of nonsence it now turns out. My big project went from rendering in H265 in 1 hour 46 min, down to only 22!! minutes when enabeling the integrated 630 gpu. Both worked hard, more memory was used(I have 64gb) and the load on my CPU was reduced. Thanks alot mate!!!
@SahimTech
@SahimTech 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! I being a creator edit a lot of videos and I'm looking into upgrading my PC , I almost was gonna go for an i5 12600KF which was a lot cheaper than the K variant but something told me to research whether it was a good decision. Turns out that the iGPU really is really important. Thank you so much for uploading this video! Wish you good luck man!
@mayurace123
@mayurace123 Жыл бұрын
What drives the monitor? Igpu or dgpu...?doesn't the igpu in disabled condition on using dgpu?
@melbaylon
@melbaylon 2 жыл бұрын
You're totally right. I love having Intel iGPUs even on the older CPUs (which I am currently on still). Would love to see a video on 12th gen Intel perform with AV1 playback though. There's a lack of good content out there discussing this specific use case. It would be great to elaborate on it more since newer CPUs and GPUs now include AV1 hardware decoders. 😁
@drphibesrises
@drphibesrises 2 жыл бұрын
I agree because that has also been my experience. Plus if my GPU fails, I can at least get some work done.
@boblea1414
@boblea1414 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, very gratefull for having found this channel & information on hardware specifically for creators. ( Finnaly !!!!) . Caught your first recomendation on the igpu & was jaw dropping information for me & just in time before I built my new PC ( 12700k + z690 Aerog + 32gb Fury 5600 + artic Freezer 34 S.D. + 500gb firecuda OS m2.) My Old build ( 6700k + z190 Gaming+ 64 GB Vengance 2400 + Samsung 980 os+ other drives.+ (gtx 1660 -(will prob keep for a while unless someone pays what I want for it then go for a 3060 or similar, see what intel comes up with?).) Was recomanded ages ago to disable igpu? Now during my build I have come across a few interesting things. Because I work as a photographer I have my dual monitor setup & everthing configured to work on my old build I have not yet completely moved over due to having to calibrate screens, etc... I have been using Task manager to monitor Gpu usage etc while working, ( Workflow Bridge - ACR - Photoshop.) So one day I am using ACR & realize my Igpu is shooting up & down from 100% & my 1660 is doing like 1 -10 % hardly anything but in Photoshop was mostly 1660. So I checked & in Photoshop my 1660 was activated but in ACR only the igpu & I could not change it. Then I realized I forgot to plug the monitors back into the 1660 so they were connected through the mother board. I did not realize Photoshop could use the GPU 1660 when connected through the motherboard, and then why does Camera raw not? Just makes me wonder with Davinci Resolve & Premiere what difference it would make connecting through the mother board or GPU?
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
Photoshop was using your GPU coz it's programmed to use NVidia GPUs if they're installed and Drivers are up to date and then your iGPU was running the monitors. Generally I'd recommend running your monitors through the dGPU. ACR most likely can't utilize NVidia GPUs, but I'm not sure how they've programmed it. :)
@kobuslouw8955
@kobuslouw8955 2 жыл бұрын
Ah I get it. I use 16bit Red Raw footage, not H265. Thought there was a setting or something missing because I never saw my IGPU active or doing anything in Davinci. Thanks for the video mate! Enjoy your channel.
@jaanu2222
@jaanu2222 2 жыл бұрын
the main reason for always get an igpu processor is suppose you've got your GPU toasted and you don't have the money to buy a new one so temporarily you can use your pc without any gpu it's always smart to buy a cpu with igpu
@madhusoodanshimoga5725
@madhusoodanshimoga5725 Жыл бұрын
Finally a god sent video.. thanks a ton. No need to research any more on this topic. I was so frustrated about not getting what I wanted to know (Like thousands of others I assume). Answered everything I wanted to know. 🙏🙏 from India.
@valcrist6742
@valcrist6742 Жыл бұрын
They wanted to sell me a build with model F, but with a little research I bought model K, since I was not going to buy a video card yet. For an integrated one, it performs very well, plus I usually encode videos with HandBrake, and with the igpu better results are obtained.
@DimovKV
@DimovKV Жыл бұрын
Oh, you are right!! All gpu reviewers talk about 1.gaming 2. rendering time, and no one about timeline performance. I personally waited for 11 gen intel cpu to use this iGPU quicksynk decoder for my h.265 10 bit 4:2:2 footage, and I have better timline smoothness with h.265 than h.264 now
@JP_Brown
@JP_Brown 11 күн бұрын
O brabo é aqui no BR que esses 10, 20 dólares a mais, tornam-se R$ 300,00, R$ 400,00 reais a mais, mas... fazer o que né? Estamos mesmo no Bostil!!!
@sunnyhawkadventures864
@sunnyhawkadventures864 2 жыл бұрын
Just sent another customer to your KZbin page. He came in the store with a you tube video about the new AMD 7900 card and how it absolutely crushes the 4090. After a half hour of explaining Clic bait I finally got through. Your advise has always been on point as long as people are willing to listen. Thanks again.
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
🤣👍
@jerryren748
@jerryren748 2 жыл бұрын
well shxxt, I found this video like one week after I bought my 12700f
@dazeen9591
@dazeen9591 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. A lot of new information that was never explored by any other channel!
@PeterJohnson76
@PeterJohnson76 2 жыл бұрын
I recently ordered an Intel Core i9 12900KF Processor. Despite spending over $5k on a new system, I didn't really see the point in an extra $10 for the Intel Core i9 12900K Processor with it's iGPU. iGPU Graphics performance is not even close to the 3080Ti. I also didn't need to rely on it as a backup as I have backup GPU's to seemed a bit pointless. I was not aware they could work in tandem, especially after reading so much that the iGPU disables itself when a dedicated GPU is installed. Anyway, if they can work in tandem, from my experience I've seen many compatibility issues when trying to run a Hybrid GPU system, including many content creation and engineering titles. Also, why do so many video editing programs have options to enable various encoding, etc via the GPU if that wasn't a good option. Having said this, Ive revised my order and are now getting the K version.
@kleptokratija
@kleptokratija Жыл бұрын
So, have you tried to use igpu and gpu in tandem in davinci resolve? Is there any difference between using them together and using only gpu for video editing?
@YILDIZGEZEN
@YILDIZGEZEN Жыл бұрын
You can enable igpu from bios if it gets disabled when dgpu installed
@ppn7
@ppn7 2 жыл бұрын
I will definitely go with non F version even if I don’t do editing right now. Who knows, today at the factory, tomorrow at video editing :D
@roderickfield1855
@roderickfield1855 2 жыл бұрын
Hot News: by default, the Asus Z690 disables the igpu if there's a proper graphics card installed and it has to be enabled in BIOS. If I hadn't watched this I would never have thought to check...
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
Yep that's correct, but all Motherboards should do that.
@nox9079
@nox9079 2 жыл бұрын
not make sense...I want to know when I do a serious task that my strong GPU becomes a trash by missing the iGPU or I pay more for get more tiny performance. LOL
@princykazmi7285
@princykazmi7285 2 жыл бұрын
Good work Brother..👍🏻
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@bci3937
@bci3937 8 ай бұрын
BIG thanks - i asked in community about my new pc setup and someon comes up the iGPU in an Intel vs my selections of a Ryzen7 7800x3D...now i know whats going on...cheers*
@EL_N0IR_2201
@EL_N0IR_2201 2 жыл бұрын
This answered my question in previews videos! Thank you message received buy the igpu! But I have some doubts still, you will only be able get away with buttery playback so as long as you don’t start adding de noise,color grade, or fusion in davinci this will actually not be enough, yes the igpu helps along with the 3090 but in real world settings some of us are using a lot of effects that are demanding. I think this bench marks should be done with real world scenarios. Still it’s helpful.🙏🏽
@mastroitek
@mastroitek 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure but I think effects would be on the GPU. But 🤷‍♂️
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, only decoding goes on iGPU, GPU accelerated effects go on dGPU! :)
@EL_N0IR_2201
@EL_N0IR_2201 2 жыл бұрын
@@mastroitek yes they would I’ve seen it in the task manager. It’s just I’m dealing with canon r6 footage witch is h265 422 and for my cpu it can’t decode, I have a 10gen i9 so all the stress is on the gpu, as soon as I start adding effects and fusion it poops out lol. Don’t get me wrong my cpu is a beast but it’s the 10980xe i9 but it falls short in the decoding department cannon t6 wise.
@EL_N0IR_2201
@EL_N0IR_2201 2 жыл бұрын
@@theTechNotice how much would a second rtx 3090 help? I know either way I need me a 12th gen k cpu in the future, will a second gpu just help with effects?
@user-ph1ob6nj7i
@user-ph1ob6nj7i 2 жыл бұрын
So... basically, does the iGPU only work when editing h264 or h265 without any effects? If you add a color or contrast adjustment then the iGPU stops working and only the PCI GPU takes care of the task? When I edit LOG footage, I usually add a LUT in an adjustment layer, just to watch the video with more contrast. In this case, the iGPU doesn't work?
@sternensens9347
@sternensens9347 2 жыл бұрын
Dell disables the iGPU of their XPS Desktops and you cant enable them in bios
@mohdwahidi
@mohdwahidi Жыл бұрын
Nice to have your channel to focus on content creation, than just gaming.
@robinchauhan7171
@robinchauhan7171 2 жыл бұрын
I have done all things to solve it but my windows os doesn't showing both gpu (igpu and d-gpu) in task manager. Please somebody help
@JasonRasmussen
@JasonRasmussen Жыл бұрын
I wish there was something similar for Ryzen. I love me some AMD, but I'm going to go 12th gen Intel to get Quick Sync to encode and decide my 4k h. 265 60fps FPS video footage. My Nvidia Titan X GTX and Ryzen 1800x can't handle it.
@princykazmi7285
@princykazmi7285 2 жыл бұрын
Ultimate knowledge..👌🏻
@Lee.M.Easton
@Lee.M.Easton Жыл бұрын
Thats awesome, this helps me with my build. Thank you very much 👍
@nikosgkionis6841
@nikosgkionis6841 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, i m trying to learn davinci resolve, and my igpu for export Does not works. Gpu works unter 20-30% during exporting. How can to make igpu to work?
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the clarification ..
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@cfldriven
@cfldriven Жыл бұрын
Started working with more 4K and timeline was getting chunky, until I enabled the iGPU. If your system is close to bottle-necking on RAM than you definitely will need to add more to take full advantage of the iGPU benefit. I went from 32G to 64G of ram and the system is very smooth, plus it added a few more years of life to this 4yr old system.
@oneplus6t469
@oneplus6t469 3 ай бұрын
Igpu is worth it. There are many benefits, having additional display options, also the video output can be calibrated easily, if gpu fails atleast you can troubleshoot with igpu running the system, etc.
@aliboyaliboy6825
@aliboyaliboy6825 2 жыл бұрын
very good explanation as always . . . . i find your expression at 5:49 funny :)
@unclenene
@unclenene 2 жыл бұрын
I´m your 400 like for this great video. Thank you a lot!
@jaffarbh
@jaffarbh 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. In fact, I can edit 4K H264 10 bit 4:2:2 on a laptop with 7th Gen Intel 7700K (HQ) and Nvidia Quadro M1200 mainly because the two GPUs work together.
@derJackistweg
@derJackistweg 2 жыл бұрын
Intel quick sync is NOT supported on 7th gen according to this sheet (which is probably correct) so on your machine it makes no difference.
@jaffarbh
@jaffarbh 2 жыл бұрын
@@derJackistweg Long story short, I select "Intel Quick Sync" as encoder when exporting from Davinci Resolve (works with H.264 and H.265). Task Manager shows 100% utilisation on the integrated HD Graphics 630, and 50%+ on the Nvidia Quadro, depending on the grading.
@TheWesman45
@TheWesman45 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the biggest pro to having an iGPU is troubleshooting. What are you going to do if your GPU suddenly has no display out? If you have an iGPU it's easy. You plug your display cable into the mobo and start trouble shooting. If you don't? Well, you pretty much have to start swapping parts and tearing down your rig.
@cryptidsNstuff
@cryptidsNstuff Жыл бұрын
exactly, great job, I finally did this.
@gamingfromjohnwayne
@gamingfromjohnwayne Ай бұрын
I just used my igpu and my 4070 in gta5 and both was working at once.had go to bios and force the igpu and used task manger seen both was working😊
@genzii1174
@genzii1174 Ай бұрын
What's your cpu?
@gamingfromjohnwayne
@gamingfromjohnwayne Ай бұрын
Rysen 7 7700
@solastalgia440
@solastalgia440 Жыл бұрын
Good video but you need more camera angles. TLDR, intel iGPU encoders/decoders have some advantages over NVENC... might be useful if you do video work.
@MikeWong398
@MikeWong398 Жыл бұрын
Does this advice go for AMD apu’s as well? Should I enable my Ryzen 7 5700G internal Radeon graphics in addition to enabling my RTX 2060 graphics? Or does this only make sense for intel since their encoders are better?
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 Жыл бұрын
for Adobe at least, this only works for intel. for other software I'm not sure some of them might support AMD graphics too
@dewantanvirahmed6991
@dewantanvirahmed6991 2 жыл бұрын
very appreciative 💙
@danushkacooray5732
@danushkacooray5732 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all this information. I recently bought a CPU with igpu because of you. It's Super. I usually keep the CPU side cover open to cool down the system even though it has four fans. Can you tell whether it's better to keep it open or close in order to keep the CPU cooler. Thank you in advance.
@yosuaindonesia
@yosuaindonesia 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have ryzen 5 3600 and getting some problem with the gpu. I can't use it. I have my old backup i7 6700 (my old pc) that have i gpu. Yeah not for game but when i need for something like excel i can use it. Omg it helps a lot with my work at that time.
@derJackistweg
@derJackistweg 2 жыл бұрын
Hardware acceleration is key and an very OLD topic: I remember when HD VIDEO PLAYBACK was an issue!!! Yes, there was a time.... on Athlon 64. Since some years it's hardware accelerated and no issue @all. Is people do not understand that, they should not call themselves a tester.
@platinumsteel6458
@platinumsteel6458 2 жыл бұрын
Really glad i saw this video because i am going to build a 12th gen intel system with the IGPu.. But really wished you had used actual 4k footage and tested the actual time in minutes with and without the IGPu vs Nvenc so i would of get an idea of how faster the IGPu is. But thanks again for the information.
@sensz9139
@sensz9139 2 жыл бұрын
People dont realize the fact benchmarks DOES NOT EQUAL user experience .....
@ASTROindi
@ASTROindi 2 жыл бұрын
this is very helpful, thanks.
@analogbox5493
@analogbox5493 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the your helpful suggestions
@HDRPC
@HDRPC 2 жыл бұрын
always great. after watching your first video. you explained don't make mistake while buying intel 12 gen. i have purchased 12600k. i am very happy. after 7 days my aio will come and my pc building will get completed that time. then i will let you know. Thanks sir
@blaqueup
@blaqueup 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen instances where the K GPU is *cheaper* than the F variant. Which is bizarre to pass-up to me especially with what you note.
@ninpgmer8959
@ninpgmer8959 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering if the igpu still boosts rendering even if the only video cable plugged on the pc is for the discrete gpu, or do we have to also plug a cable on the motherboard too with an other screen ?
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, the iGPu works without you plugging a cable to the motherboard. :)
@ninpgmer8959
@ninpgmer8959 2 жыл бұрын
@@theTechNotice thx you very much.
@DailyCorvid
@DailyCorvid 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video, I always thought the igpu was worth keeping on despite having a nice fancy Radeon for gaming. Now I know why that is!!
@TGameplay4k
@TGameplay4k 4 ай бұрын
Getting my 14900k + RTX 4090 for my channel this week!!! ,...awesome tip!
@cdtluna
@cdtluna 2 жыл бұрын
Is this true if u use the 5600g or 5700g? Would be nice to see the performance difference
@deadcurls
@deadcurls 2 жыл бұрын
I’m building a creator/gaming pc and this is what I’ve been most curious about too
@KyleWilcox
@KyleWilcox 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, same question. I'm thinking about a build with either i5-12500 or Ryzen 5600G. With either option, I won't be using a graphics card. From what I can tell, the 5600G would be better for gaming, but I don't know how they compare for video editing.
@nayan.punekar
@nayan.punekar 2 жыл бұрын
Well no because amd doesn't have a quick sync alternative so video encoding is a lot slower on amd igpus
@GMRod
@GMRod 2 жыл бұрын
What I want to know here is: What about the people on red team (AMD)'s side? Is it also worth it for us to have the iGPU?
@hirakchatterjee5240
@hirakchatterjee5240 Жыл бұрын
No you lost a lot of L3 cache and Amd APU has no encoder support.
@ΓιάννηςΧατζηγεωργίου-θ9σ
@ΓιάννηςΧατζηγεωργίου-θ9σ 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video!! Thank you for your time, but i feel the need to repeat the question posted by Nathan Wells (few hours ago): ''Also genuine question about the iGPU I know you are explaining more with editing but can it also help out in streaming as well?'' It would be nice to know if enabling both GPUs will give us smoother and better result on streaming.
@Thatscardo365
@Thatscardo365 Жыл бұрын
I'm starting to highend graphic cards as overared bulky tech all I here is people want 4k and butter smooth graphic but it makes your tech heavier
@injurera
@injurera 2 жыл бұрын
Let me tell you a valid reason to buy a KF variant. The iGPU has limited use and not all users need it. Besides the price, which I agree is neglectable, the KF has one benefit - it tends to have higher chance for a better binning that K variant, and the reason is that good K variants are now sold as KS, while KF is any K with a failed iGPU.
@lazuardi4055
@lazuardi4055 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent infos. Any benchmark on 12100 with igpu? Want to know how much weaker it is than the 12400
@Joseph.L809
@Joseph.L809 5 ай бұрын
That works for gaming??
@elbertrippee3371
@elbertrippee3371 Жыл бұрын
I would be interested in seeing a video on various ways to do hardware AV1 encoding aside from buy a 4090.
@nanquan491
@nanquan491 9 ай бұрын
Not sure where you got the price margins of only $10. ‏In my case, locally, the price difference is about 50-60$ between the K and KF variant. Sure, it's worth it if you're a creator and use video encoding a lot, as you said. But I think for most people who won't be using it for that, the increase in price is not insignificant.
@Heymoss69
@Heymoss69 2 жыл бұрын
3:00 i disagree with the reasoning on why large youtubers disable the igpu its for easier showing the gpus only performance
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
But if it's disabled on a CPU review benchmark? 🤔
@OptLab
@OptLab Жыл бұрын
The benefits of iGPU for desktop can be power saving. Though do you have an idea how much is the power draw of the GPU when the igpu is in use for browsing/idle ? I can not find much information about it. I do not want the dedicated gpu remains idle taking 15W if it can just be "plugged" and in Standby (2-4 watts). This would allow big savings since most power consumption in on idle, making intel cpu better than AMD finally.
@davedivesdeeper
@davedivesdeeper 9 ай бұрын
Testing with ffmpeg and vmaf, NVENC has been better and faster than quicksync for a long time. Not sure that quicksync is a “better encoder” but it is definitely good if it can also be utilized on top of your dGPU
@alfredborgetti
@alfredborgetti Жыл бұрын
first of all thank you for these videos they really do help a lot , i need some help i have to decide wich cpu should i buy i have the choice between i5 13500 , 12600k and 13600kf the 2 first almost at the same price and the 3rd one slightly more expensive , i mainly use davinci resolve for editing so please tell what is the best choice here ty so much !!
@Prabhu_njd
@Prabhu_njd 8 ай бұрын
Go for i7-14700k
@MalikenGD
@MalikenGD 2 жыл бұрын
Here's the real question. What about in things like Blender or Keyshot where you're rendering a scene with a 3d model and other 3d assets you've created? Are you using the encoder/decoder then? I googled around briefly and it doesn't seem so?
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
Nope you wouldn't use ut then, since you're not playing back video. :)
@khanscombe619
@khanscombe619 Жыл бұрын
I did configure my recent i(-10850 w/ Strix RTX-2080-Ti. I like it. How can I confirm if it uses iGPU primarily in non intensive desktop work but kicks in RTX as needed. My Mac Pro does this to reduce heat & energy.
@haies09
@haies09 8 ай бұрын
So all you do is just enable it? Believe mine is already enabled. My question is if one is running dual monitors, should one of the monitors be connected to the IGPU? I’m currently using a low budget monitor that’s only 60hz, a 240hz and they’re both connected to the DGPU. Thanks 😊
@EvenHarmonics
@EvenHarmonics 2 жыл бұрын
Gee, I get it now! Thanks!
@nonameyet2205
@nonameyet2205 10 ай бұрын
If IGP's are that good then why are top of the line Xeon or Threadripper workstation CPU don't have them?
@Oplix
@Oplix 2 жыл бұрын
you're pro AF hardware reviewer
@wordjumper2713
@wordjumper2713 2 жыл бұрын
Is using 12th gen iGPU enough to run OBS without the dedicated GPU losing performance? because I currently using my 3070 with 3700x and there is some lose in performance in game somehow
@swft_
@swft_ 2 жыл бұрын
You wanna run NVENC if you're recording/streaming from OBS.
@bilbodanzo3847
@bilbodanzo3847 Жыл бұрын
damn, build looks sick. what case is it?
@NikhilDangui
@NikhilDangui 2 жыл бұрын
Great info... I am a live streamer and this u for helped a lot...
@Aszniko
@Aszniko Жыл бұрын
F variants usually are a bit slower without boost mode and with boost mode.
@MarcSchreiberRealtor
@MarcSchreiberRealtor 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on. 👍🍕🍺. With my 12700k and z690 mb and 3 Gen 4 m.2s my limitation is rendering w my older gtx1070. Question does 64gb over 32 make a difference? (And speed?)
@mastroitek
@mastroitek 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know speed does not make a huge difference. DDR4 3200 and 3600 will be pretty similar in perf. Capacity limitations can definitely slow you down, just check how much ram you are using while working and see if you might need an upgrade. But if you have 32gb at 2666 (example), I don't think it is worth it to go with faster ram, just add other 32gb at the same speed if you need them
@iggorr25
@iggorr25 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool :) So how do I enable the IGPU in different app, I use mostly Adobe ...
@nasiremon648
@nasiremon648 Жыл бұрын
For me the difference is € 30 for an igpu. Is that to much?
@DidierMartini
@DidierMartini 2 жыл бұрын
99% of videos benchmarks on internet are useless. what the guy above tell in the video (Hi, Sorry , i don't know your name) is right, it's the first time I see someone telling it on youtube. It's very difficult to find information on iGpu or finding real use performance on professional software (even running on graphic card) like Video editor, Audio Editor (DAW), 3D etc... is cinebench is interesting to use as "benchmark" ? not at all, and i have a Red Giant / Maxon Licence ! I'm video editing my videos in Vegas Pro 19, and i use my iGpu (i7-7700 + intel Graphics HD 630) instead of my 1050ti Nvidia graphic card which is more powerful than the iGpu ! it's the 630 that i use in Vegas Pro. why ? Stability, much better quality picture once rendering the video too. When running the software on the Nvidia, i can get 20 crashes per day with it. With the iGpu, less, and sometimes completly crash free (when we know why it's crashing, in the past it was worst with previous version of Vegas pro). There are other examples. But here both card are running together. some plugins are Gpu CUDA accelerated like the Neat Denoise video plugin, but the video editor run on the iGpu engine. Most benchmarks are done here and there for gamers, but not everybody does gaming with a computer. I don't do game with it, i'm doing video, Ai picture/video processing, and Music composing ! Benchmarks are most of the time absolutly not a real case scenario, but extreme performance tests to see which one are the best once put at 100%. most of the time it's not working like that. In a video editor, 50% of the time, will be spend in Idle, or very cpu use, and then, graphics card will be used. on Topaz Video / Picture products, Gpu is not used 100%, so we see often people complaining that their video card is not running very fast "and i bought a 3090"... the best thing to do was to come on the community forum and ask how such a card is running with such software. I never had any issue by running my computer with both Gpu + iGpu running at the same time.
@StreamVirtual
@StreamVirtual Жыл бұрын
Is there any real disadvantage of having it enabled? Why is the default in the bios to have it turned off?
@langamtimkulu6846
@langamtimkulu6846 Жыл бұрын
i was thinking off buying an intel A770 to help my rtx3000.......can you make a video with PROs and CONs of that configuration.
@cr7vaibhav
@cr7vaibhav 2 жыл бұрын
For gaming disabling igpu is better otherwise games have trouble choosing the right graphics card sometimes can also cause some games to not launch
@cr7vaibhav
@cr7vaibhav 2 жыл бұрын
*some games
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
True
@sensibleplayer
@sensibleplayer Жыл бұрын
what games are those? those games either have a bug, or old enough to run on iGPU (and doesn't have GPU auto-selection). Never experienced such a thing for years.
@khanscombe619
@khanscombe619 Жыл бұрын
So I have always had multi GPU systems in now my retired SLI in X299 working as dual GPU, 1, older, 1 modern. (1080-Ti+2080-Ti) w/ i9-10900X. Can I get the similar support or it an Intel thing? I'm willing to drop an ARC A770 in there as these old Intel CPU don't offer iGPU.
@mediatrix1111
@mediatrix1111 Жыл бұрын
If I have a powerful GPU then would there be any advantage between having the 770 iGpu vs the 730 iGpu? Since I would be getting the encoding and decoding advantage on both, would there be a greater advantage in the 770 iGpu while also using a dedicated GPU (like 3060 or 3070) ? Please someone guide me because I need to determine what CPU I need to go in for accordingly (on a budget). Thks
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Жыл бұрын
Yeah uhd 770 would be better! :)
@AbrahamStudios01
@AbrahamStudios01 8 ай бұрын
what if most of the footage I shot is on H264 10bit 4.2.2, 1080p because the A7iv only support 4k HEVC but not on 1080p. So my question is would I see a big difference if I do use this setup?
@BrettCulley
@BrettCulley 2 жыл бұрын
completely disagree. 50 bucks is alot of money to people. never used encoding software in my life, and always disabled the igpu in past K versions. not to mention the 12700 and 12700f runs cooler than the K versions.
@xmikepurifiedx9296
@xmikepurifiedx9296 2 жыл бұрын
Can i equalize the missing Decoders from a „RX 6500 XT“ GPU with a Intel 12gen Series CPU? For example the i3 12100 has all the new En/Decoders…
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 жыл бұрын
yes.
@xmikepurifiedx9296
@xmikepurifiedx9296 2 жыл бұрын
@@theTechNotice thx for the fast answer! 👍🏻
@mariograterol6489
@mariograterol6489 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! thanks for the information! But the same happens with the Ryzen APU? Bc I want to update my Ryzen 5 3600x for Ryzen 7 5700x but the Ryzen 7 5700g its more cheaper then Ryzen 7 5700x Soo idk if its worth it bc the different of price its like 40$
@paperclip46
@paperclip46 2 жыл бұрын
im a video editor and thanks for your video ,you really help me to choose between F variant and non-F ,, in my country its around 8-10 dollars price difference... and i think it's worth it for the value of having igpu ,,
@emonparvez3459
@emonparvez3459 2 жыл бұрын
bruh you know why did I subbed to your channel? It's because you freaking know what I am thinking all the time and what I am goin to search
@RhinoXpress
@RhinoXpress 2 жыл бұрын
this is why amd is making all there ryzen 7000 series iGPU's, because it's important at the very least to have something as a backup incase your video card goes out.
@imsadidontcare9537
@imsadidontcare9537 2 жыл бұрын
More fps? Im playing cyberpunk 12100f x 3060ti
@DailyCorvid
@DailyCorvid 2 жыл бұрын
Lol Cyberpunk isn't capable of more fps unless you kill the quality settings, and that hasn't changed in a year. Turn off RTX turn off High quality shadows, turn down pedestrian fill level, put up with hitches and glitches everywhere because that's the game with your CPU and GPU combo. CP is terribly poorly optimised if at all, and that means it will never perform well on todays hardware unless you nerf the settings.
@exterminadordecomunistas5620
@exterminadordecomunistas5620 Жыл бұрын
thanks!! this is the video that i was needing im gonna buy the i5 13400 i already have an rx6700xt i want the igpu for streaming
@GanJosie
@GanJosie 11 ай бұрын
Sir, does we need igpu to use thunderbolt 4 as a display? Currently, I used z790 dark heroes with I7-13700kf.
@Rocky712_Livestream
@Rocky712_Livestream 11 ай бұрын
I know the video is quite "old", but I feel like you should have included an AMD card, because they got their own solution. I would always go with a non-F CPU. I got a Ryzen 5 1600 on my old system and it´s just annoying that I can´t get rid of the GPU and still use the PC. To be fair, the price difference is a lot bigger here in Europe. The price difference of a 13600k vs a 13600kf is depending on the situation somewhere between 20-50€ extra for the non-f, which is a sizeable chunk of money to spend if you are really sure you don´t need it.
@Jawad.1
@Jawad.1 Жыл бұрын
Does i5 11400 have HEVC encoder? P.S. Awesome video, btw!!!
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Jawad.1
@Jawad.1 Жыл бұрын
@@theTechNotice Then I might buy an RX 6500 and not worry about it not having the HEVC encoder on it. Because I already have i5 11400?
@mayurace123
@mayurace123 Жыл бұрын
What drives the monitor ? Igpu? Or dedicated GPU?
@christopherrobinson1239
@christopherrobinson1239 9 ай бұрын
yes but doesnt your motherboard need to have the feature in order to use igpu?. so say if i wanted to build both a gaming and creator pc, what motherboard would i or shouldnt i get?. still confusing.
@Aaron_Lesse
@Aaron_Lesse 2 жыл бұрын
I do wish I had known this before upgrading my 5600X to a 5900X, especially since I bought it for $650 just before it plummeted in price to $150 less. I should have gone for the 5700G and saved about $250. In your opinion, is the 5700G the best AMD Zen 3 5000-series CPU with IGPU?
@lunatik9696
@lunatik9696 2 жыл бұрын
AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX , 8 Cores/16 Threads (Total L2 Cache 4MB , Total L3 Cache 16MB , Base Clock 3.3 GHz , up to 4.6 GHz) GPU AMD Vega 8 Radeon™ Graphics (Graphics Frequency 2100 MHz)
@Aaron_Lesse
@Aaron_Lesse 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunatik9696 Thanks for mentioning this. However, I am looking for the latest Ryzen APU for desktop PCs and the 5900HX is for mobile platforms.
@HMSNeptun
@HMSNeptun 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aaron_Lesse nah it's not worth losing over half your cache.
@playmoba760
@playmoba760 2 жыл бұрын
nope, AMD igpu doesn't have quicksync.
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