What UPS To Buy As Fast As Possible

[@Stelio_Contos]

I'd love to see a revisit on this video, or an LTT video where you round up a bunch of the best ones on Amazon or something and put them to the test.

[@DuelingDexperts]

That's literally what I was searching for when I find this lol

[@michel_laforge]

Me too!

[@gjkrisa]

Yea I’ve seen a video of an older apc ups where they were showing that it’s using a crappy syn sine wave and didn’t explain why it’s bad other then it’s noisy. I know of these guys went into it they have better presentation and be more knowledgeable

[@DuelingDexperts]

@@gjkrisa maybe we can bug then into it being one of the first videos out of the new testing lab they built.

[@gjkrisa]

@@DuelingDexperts I just watched one of Linus’s older videos that explains way better in about the same amount of time. And then the more in-depth video is a ncix tech video

[@kaesden]

Being a tech enthusiast site, a 'quick' video on UPS buying should include the critical piece of advice to make sure that if you are using a modern mid-high end power supply(pretty much ANY power supply with an 80+ rating of any kind), it will have Active PFC. This REQUIRES a power supply that can output a pure sinewave(or as close as a digital device is capable of delivering). Many low end models deliver stepped sinewave power which would be perfectly fine for charging your cell phone, but your computer will just plain not work. So when it switches to battery power, your computer will just instantly shut off. Make sure you buy a power supply that is stated as compatible with active PFC power supplies.

[@obiokeke9963]

Sorry but I don't understand, too much use of 'power supply.' Could you clarify when you mean pc power supply vs ups

[@MrMischelito]

@@obiokeke9963 the ups

[@tOSdude]

@@obiokeke9963 A little late but here we go: PC power supply has Active PFC (whatever that means, I'm not gonna look it up right now) If you have a power supply like that, you need a pure-sine UPS Low end UPS's will have stepped output (or in the worst case I've seen square wave outputs before) and these will case the computer to cut out on battery power (rendering the UPS obsolete) Get a UPS that is stated to be compatible with active PFC.

[@Yada_690]

Me: *starts ranked game* Electricity: *a d i o s*

[@mfThump]

That awkward moment when you forget to plug your monitor into your UPS.

[@Quantumfarts]

lol

[@user-tz6nu6wi1p]

lel

[@LupeVods]

lel

[@ZeushyTV]

lol

[@GilangD21]

Lal

[@Epotheros]

When I built my desktop I made sure to get a ups as a means of protecting it from sudden shut downs and surges. I got a APC 850 VA for around $90 on sale and that will run my desktop on idle (45 w) for an hour or under a heavy load, like a game, (~200 w) for 20 minutes. It also probably saved my PC from receiving a pretty powerful electrical surge that blew up an old surge protector plugged into the outlet by switching to batter power as soon as it sensed fluctuations in the voltage. That $90 investment might of saved my $1000 build that was less than 2 months old at the time.

[@AK-tf3fc]

which country u from

[@jrsmithunited]

Couple of points that have been missed: Some UPS have the system run through the battery the entire time, while others only switch over to battery when it senses a problem. In that case, you need to make sure the UPS is fast enough before the stored electricity in your computer drops and the comp turns off anyway. Also, some UPS have phone and network pass through to protect you from surges through the phone/internet lines (lightning strikes). Many also have plugs that on the UPS that dont run through the battery. These are for surge protection only, but wont drain the battery in the event of a blackout. Good for running multi-monitor setups. Not to mention the idea behind smoothing out the line power itself for power that fluctuates, but doesn't necessarily create brown-outs that you can notice. Less than 4 minutes of content and you missed so much.

[@amahashadow]

That was my first thought as well. The most important characteristic of a ups is is working mode (offline (which replaces the line supply when it goes down), line interactive (a step up that will take over if the line is too bad), and on-line (which is always charging and powering the batteries at the same time for perfect power output at the cost of replacing the batteries after a few years)

[@kiskiller3]

online UPSs dont run on batteries the whole time. they convert the AC input current to DC, then back to AC again for your sensitive devices. when the input AC goes out, the internal DC power is instantly switched to the battery source and then converted to AC via the same circuitry that was powerwing the protected equipement prior to the power outage. the onlineupss have ZERO transfer time..

[@haberdasherrykr8886]

@@kiskiller3 not zero; negligible

[@rickytorres9089]

@@haberdasherrykr8886 More accurately it happens so fast that even the shittiest of PSUes don't even "knows" about the outages/dips right?

[@rancor4513]

​@@kiskiller3thats called line interactive no?

[@ralmslb]

You guys failed to mention that there are different types of UPS output such as quare wave or sine wave making them not compatible with all power supplies...

[@pcfreak1992]

+ralmslb yeah, I really missed that but good thing they made half of the video a sponser spot.

[@TheMARIYADAS]

+ralmslb square wave

[@ralmslb]

+Mariyadas Joseph yeah I wrote this o my phone half sleeping lol

[@dvgog]

why would we need a true clean sine wave when every pc power supply in existance uses full bridge rectifier anyway to get pulse dc voltage as a first block in the chain so we get same shit in the end ?

[@ralmslb]

A lot of power supplies nowadays, if not all, use/have Active PFC which doesnt go well with Square Wave UPS causing sudden power offs or the power supply not work at all. So yeah, it matters, you dont just send garbage power into it with a bit of magic dust to have a perfect output...

[@Neo.Picard]

Perfect video: 1) it was short & succinct, just what I needed; 2) it answered all of my questions; and 3) you placed the advertisement at the end, giving the viewers the option of stopping the video if the ad wasn’t of interest to them. THANK YOU for putting this video together in all the right ways.

[@Kippykip]

i still don't know which one to buy

[@DesertCookie]

But you know how to buy one.

[@lethauntic]

@@DesertCookie But he doesn't know which one to buy.

[@rickytorres9089]

@@lethauntic APCs are quite good in my experiences, seems to be replaceable on anything better than the VERY low end models. Plus they even support Linux out of the box. :)

[@alex_oiman]

as always techquickie saves me from reading on the internet.

[@ButtonWalls]

I would recommend a usp-s torque factory new.

[@hydrohydrahead3355]

lol

[@corruptedminds5679]

+XXXYOLOSWAGMLG-X-XXBUTTONWALLSXX-XXX( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)420YOLO69OPTICXXX4CHANXXXpRAISEN13GHT34GL3 0_0 That is the longest username I've ever seen.

[@Eywalian]

+XXXYOLOSWAGMLG-X-XXBUTTONWALLSXX-XXX( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)420YOLO69OPTICXXX4CHANXXXpRAISEN13GHT34GL3 nah man caiman all the way

[@navneetraman]

+XXXYOLOSWAGMLG-X-XXBUTTONWALLSXX-XXX( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)420YOLO69OPTICXXX4CHANXXXpRAISEN13GHT34GL3 dont forget stattrak

[@TripleSuccotash1]

+MrArtexxx Why is that allowed...

[@CobisTaba]

Ehh... this did not really teach people anything. I expected a little more detail, comparison, vendor tips, etc.

[@davidflores909]

+Lex Sietses Yeah, I was also expecting the waveform quality to be mentioned.

[@enes8k9]

They make some extra videos just to put those advertisements in.. I would not mind the ads if the video was informative as you said. Most of us that search for videos like this don't know much or anything about UPS

[@HugoRBLX]

It’s tech quickie, it’s quick tips most of the time

[@kiskiller3]

Make sure its pure sinewave and at LEAST a line interactive model, (ideally online). APC or Tripplite. dont touch anything else.. simple. haha.

[@darknessblades]

Same. More like they bough like 50+ UPS of various brands. all of the best possible type. Like: Brand A {model}{watt}}{type code} then the best wattage of each model. Then show what the best possible one is. for every possible setup. Sadly i have not found any guide like this online.

[@redeye998]

3 mins content, 2 mins ad?

[@TWiStErRob]

It's clear when they switch to ads mode, they always use a horrible segway. Just go to whatever you want to watch next. Tough I agree, it would be nice to go a little deeper and do a 20 second ad at max, everyone knows Audible, Linda, Dollar-shave and all that stuff, and no one cares, or do they? Why are they keep making these ads?

[@traso56]

because the need money to run the channel and many people use adblocker so this is their way just skip it it's not that hard

[@Containerrd]

Alexander Raptakis who do you think pays for these videos?

[@gavinvollure2252]

Half minute content 3 and a half minutes jokes and 1 minute ads

[@esrevinu.]

Thx, slick,... was just now jumpin on the UPS train since deciding to build a NAS, and this video was helpful with the immediate confusion I ran into when researched UPS's haha

[@DivyaPareek07]

You forgot to mention the part where some UPSs come with stuff like LCD monitors to display power in and output, manual key controls to make adjustments to get the best possible Sine wave and bunch of other connectors like, micro USB B, USB 2.0, optical connectors and most importantly, 'circuit breakers'. Btw, I am just filling in the holes, I am not an expert or a critic and I love you guys. Awaiting new episodes and seasons of Scrapyard Wars.

[@ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz]

And here is what they forgot to tell you: Cheaper UPS units do not produce a true sine wave AC power; instead they produce a square wave that mostly matches an AC sine wave. Some more expansive UPS units like Smart UPS from APC will produce true sine wave output. Why does this matter? Two reasons, if you thinking of nesting 2 cheap ups units by plugging one into the other to double battery life, that won't work; b/c second ups will reject the square wave from the first ups treating it as bad power. Also, running a square wave AC CAN DAMAGE your hi-fi audio gear, so if you paid $500+ for a fancy receiver and speakers, spend the $300 to get true sine wave UPS.

[@bardawulf5827]

+Igor Petrusky I was going to type this info up myself! A very embarrassing oversight IMO to not have mentioned the importance of understanding and purchasing an UPS to match your Active or passive power supply! Buy the wrong kind and you ruin the UPS within 6 months.

[@ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz]

Something I want to add. If the devices connected to ups have ac/dc converters on them, most likely the squarewave ups will be ok, bc the acdc converters usually use bridge rectifier, which does not care about true sin wave. But for oldschool analog devices driven directly by ac a square wave can be a no-no.

[@michaeljerome6591]

audible - build it beautiful

[@PixelPickaxe]

Squarespace is bringing DDR4 to the mainstream

[@rahul38474]

PixelPickaxe With a variety of modular parts and accessories.

[@rahul38474]

***** "Book accessories"

[@StanleyYork]

+Dexter Dickinson You Should ;)

[@ninjanayr]

You should

[@KASUALKILLAS]

You missed the part of needing a "Pure Sine Wave" UPS for Active PFC PSU's.

[@LinkinPark4Ever1996]

Finally someone... I had to scroll too far down

[@CatalystReaction]

Explain, I’m new

[@varunthapliyal8960]

Pure Sine Wave UPS are called 'On - Line Ups' these provide purest and clearest forms of DC current to your pc components without any ups and downs in voltage

[@verdrehteseele8525]

@@varunthapliyal8960 load-shedding is regularl in my area. I've heard offline ups contribute into destroying your pc. It is better to go ups less than using offline pc. Is it true?

[@DriantX]

@@varunthapliyal8960 There are line-interactive UPS models with pure sinewave output as well. I prefer them over online ones for personal use, as they only kick in when needed (voltage fluctuations & blackouts), which makes them run cooler, way more silent (either fanless, or fans kick in when battery is in use / high usage), and batteries themselves last much longer.

[@xTheRealOGxP]

I was looking for a ups surge protector today, and like magic you guys posted exactly what I was looking for and helped me make the right purchase. Thank you.

[@behemothinferno]

Keep in mind the efficiency of the PSU so if you have a 85% efficient power supply, you will have to factor in that 15% loss and add it to the UPS rating since it will be drawing 15% more than it can give out from the UPS.

[@Chr0nalis]

VA is not the same as Watts not because of resistance present in electrical load but because of reactance. Reactance is almost always undesirable in load.

[@fliprabbit]

yes it is

[@Fantasma25]

+Shagas Heizenberg True. VA is the apparent power. In the power industry, people try to make VA equal to the real power by messing with banks of capacitors. The ratio between those two is called Power Factor. A good power factor is about 0.95 (maybe 0.93). Anything below that is a huge waste of power

[@ourv9603]

Which UPS to buy? Thats easy. Buy the biggest UPS you can afford It will keep your equipment running the longest. !

[@ImmodderNation]

If your power supply supports PFC (Power Factor Correction), make sure the UPS supports it. For example, with CyberPower, the AVR UPS line is cheaper than the PFC, but it's not a good choice for my Corsair RM750x.

[@AnimilesYT]

after the part that has to to do with the volt-amps and watt stuff (1:50) I'd've liked an example where you showed some quick math. I feel like that'd really help a lot.

[@DrakoonLP]

Animiles 2+2=4-1=3

[@DrakoonLP]

Quick Mafffs

[@alessandrobarbieri2098]

S*S=P*P + Q*Q Where S [VA] is the apparent power P [W] is the active power Q [VAR] is the reactive power also ϕ=atan2(Q/P) and cos(ϕ) is the displacement factor (that's equal to the power factor in the linear case)

[@unironicallysomething9757]

You could say a UPS is a form of... defense against the dark arts. Why did I write this.

[@unironicallysomething9757]

+TheGeekyGirl13 ! lol

[@Modified67]

+Charles Marcott ZING!

[@unironicallysomething9757]

Ayyyyyyyy lmao

[@Yamagatabr]

nonono dont stop

[@shriramvenu]

P=IV is only watts in DC... When you go to AC capacitive and inductive effects mean that load has a complex component as well. THAT is why UPSs are rated in VA. Typically It's the battery Ah rating multiplied by the RMS AC voltage. In addition there are losses from the DC->AC inverter as well, meaning the output power rating in watts is less than the VA rating of the battery. Ultimately what matters is 2 things. The size of the battery in Ah (determines how long it can keep your devices powered) and the max load of the Inverter in Watts (determines how much it can power simultaneously)

[@aniforprez]

it's sort of odd to see people actually not know what a ups is since power cuts are so rare and you don't need them. where i live, power outages are not as rare (once a week in summer and once a month maybe in winter)but the probability of them happening is high enough that everyone who even considers building a desktop has to first ask what type of ups they should be getting

[@ewwwt]

Thank you!! Not many tech channels talk about this very much. :)

[@chemicallust77]

This is one of the reasons I use my laptop as a desktop replacement....it's a layer of protection a regular desktop doesn't have...I still use a UPS for other stuff on my desk though and have the laptop plugged into the surge protection side of the UPS

[@SauvikRoy]

I just find this so much fun: 0:28, I could put it on loop and listen to it for an hour!😁 Great video as always!

[@tim94com]

VERY helpful years later. Thank you guys!

[@miinyoo]

IMO every computer should have a good UPS, especially if it is a workstation. The power cleaning alone will save you so much uncertainty with PSU's and Mobos and theoretically make them last longer. The only tip I can provide is if your workload maxed out is 450 watts like mine is (on a 750 or 850w PSU) then you really do want a 1500 VA (865w effective) UPS. This will allow for multiple screens, speakers and quite a few peripherals to stay function for the 6 or so minutes that the battery can sustain at full power. It's also a 2nd backup for RAID5 power loss so you're not depending entirely on the onboard battery backup. It's actually better because it's enough time to flush the ram to drive and have no worries about stripe corruption.

[@AnimagicMissile]

4:00 "Audio books are great to listen to when you're sitting on the subway, sitting on the train, sitting on the bus, sitting on the uhhhh..." ...toilet?

[@thearousedeunuch]

... dildo?

[@RedWolfGameryt]

@@thearousedeunuch lmao

[@davidjohnston5798]

I discovered recently that some forms of Linux will display the battery level of a UPS connected via USB in the same way it would show battery life on a laptop, making it easy to see right from the desktop.

[@rickytorres9089]

Works very well on APC units apparently. So useful!

[@network_king]

I've seen and worked with a lot of UPS units from cheap home ones to server room 3500VA models. I don't care much for APC UPS because they have been known to just charge the batteries constantly and burn out the batteries. So far the best UPS I have run across is the Eaton 5P 1000 model. From what I can tell it is a line interactive model.The only cons are it has a small fan, and I think retail is like $700-1000, if you want the LAN mgmt card I think that is like $150-200 more. There are also 2 types of UPS the sine wave models (primarily older models). Or switchmode UPS which works like you PSU just in reverse. The boost transformer is small and driven by a high-frequency SMPS driver. Usually the switch mode UPS are lighter, but that can be hard to tell just from that because some like the 5P1000 have a large transformer for the line interactive part which throws that result off.

[@Jez1963UK]

For those of us still trying to decide which UPS to buy, there are those that say APC are the best, others that say CyberPower are the worst or best, etc etc etc etc.... what a nightmare! Personally, I'm going to go with an APC, I particularly like the facility on some of their models which enable you to connect multiple UPS's together to get longer battery time.

[@halofannatic]

Buying a UPS has honestly been the single best purchase for my computer system I've ever made. Hands down.

[@Jez1963UK]

Why? did it cut in on a power outage? Or is it the peace of mind it give you?

[@DeilGrist]

Surprising relevant; I was just looking at buying a UPS. Good tips!

[@AliAdam80]

who else read the thumbnail and wondered what the hell "ups" are until they looked at the title and saw UPS? 😂

[@dankmemesgivemewetdreams5933]

me

[@YoloMonstaaa]

too

[@Julianna.Domina]

thanks

[@Codemantic]

+Ali Adam i watched this vid solely to find out what it was

[@Mr.FastZombie]

+Ali Adam -The title and the thumbnail appear to say the same thing.- *EDIT:* Oh, I think I see what you mean now. What up.

[@phantasmalWordsmith]

This is weirdly fitting. My mains power seemed to die a couple times - came back on immediately - just earlier tonight.

[@cpufreak101]

+Phantasmal Wordsmith that sucks, where i live we have a rather stable power supply, albeit we have overhead service and there's a ton of trees so a tree can easily knock out power, but even then it's just for an hour or 2, the last blackout we had was during a windstorm, it wasn't a tree falling, but a short somewhere in the grid caused a transformer to overheat, it's safety mechanism's failed, and next thing ya know there's a substation fire, took them a few minutes to cut the power though, it was a good few hours until they had the power re-routed and it was back on.

[@DuckNationWTD]

i live in a area with spotty power so buying a UPS was a must when i got my new computer

[@Bell-et1lg]

Ltt should really do an updated video about UPS’s. one that includes brand names and compares quality.

[@rickytorres9089]

I am more interested of modern options like lithium ion, graphene, etc. I am still wondering of the days of getting even Teslas on the cheap, surely there would be cheaper 1KW or larger UPSes?

[@micnor14]

I was hoping the video would go into some detail on choices or different brands and types of UPS to buy but nope. Just buy the most expensive one out there right TechQuickie? PS - Government liquidation auctions are the best place to buy older high-end UPS (especially in bulk!) Just buy aftermarket batteries and you got yourself one hell of a backup.

[@spaghettigod43]

Tech Quickie is just to explain it not to review or recommend.

[@o_o6869]

this is always a must have piece of tech in my home for sure no joke

[@SYSTEM__32]

@Techquickie Could you guys update this video for 2022 with a top 3 or 5 list. I’m moving soon to an area that loses power often. So I’d love to make the right choice when buying a UPS.

[@pinkliongaming8769]

Me watching this in a Blackout:

[@TemporalOnline]

Not even a PEEP about SINE VS SQUARE UPSs?

[@D8W2P4]

I wonder if they have in desktop tower UPS (PSU > UPS > Motherboard/components) because there are power losses from the battery charger going from ac to dc, then from the battery through the dc to ac inverter, and then again from the PSU when it converts the ac back to dc.

[@YoussefAmoun]

Oh, I thought this was about the UPS delivery.

[@edwardfeng1787]

me too

[@YoloMonstaaa]

Fuck you

[@dominicbeaudoin2762]

I can't stand UPS delivery, they do a crappy job. It's like they DON'T want you to get your item the fastest so they just leave a note and run (I was here all day, no ringing, no knocking) which means I have to go out of my way to get to their "closest" pickup spot which is usually far /grumble

[@FezCaliph]

@@dominicbeaudoin2762 never had a problem with them.

[@DanielMiller8]

I had a UPS about 12 years ago whilst at University and I was gaming when the power tripped. My friend was writing a last minute Essay but lost his work. I was playing Half-Life all I didn't was walk to the electric box to switch the power back on. I would really recommend a ups.

[@sircolby45]

I often hear that actual Pure Sine Wave (not simulated) is necessary for modern power supplies. Is this true?

[@traviscombs6947]

+sircolby45 Yeah, I'm surprised this video didn't mention it at all. Some power supplies that emphasize power efficiency (especially 80 Plus certified ones) will depend on clean, consistent pure sine wave, instead of the approximate step kind. When I bought my UPS a few years ago, I was going to buy an APC brand unit that didn't have pure sine wave, and I found my PSU (Corsair TX650) has issues with non-PSW UPSes. I bought a CyberPower 1350PFCLCD instead and it's been fantastic. I even bought a second for my living room.

[@rickytorres9089]

@@traviscombs6947 That's absurdly weird, even the cheapo non replaceable APC unit (it's was like 450VA or even less, rated for 255 max wattage) did just fine service for my Corsair 650 watts PSU and it is a bronze power supply.

[@adkn]

I have i7-4790K and use Line interactive UPS 600 watts capacity, which is only connected to PC. While a second setup i use is 900 watts inverters with modified sine wave current with 200 amps storage acid battery and i also use AVR with it, it is connected to whole system, monitor, pc, printer etc. I also have another big stablizer incase electricity start fluctuating too much. Entire backup system costed me about, 400+ dollars.

[@kevindt100]

Not bad

[@adkn]

kevindt12 lolz, reason i commented if anyone wanted to know how to get proper off grid backup that lasts for hours.

[@kevindt100]

AD KN I live in africa power cuts 4 - 6 times a week for long the normal setup here is 1500VA inverter with 9 x 12V 200AH barttery some people have here even way more VA inverters

[@adkn]

I had pretty much same in first time. I used 200 amps battery with 900 watts inverter, also added AVR which gives pure sinewave current. But as soon as electricity goes out in rain, or heavy fluctuation, my PC got restarted. So i added another Line interactive UPS. Now it works fine.

[@kevindt100]

AD KN Cool

[@1berkut]

LTT should review a few ups i would like to know how actuate the volt amp ratings are and how good the software is

[@kiskiller3]

+1berkut the v/a readings arent really accurate and alot of them have crappy software... sadly...

[@rickytorres9089]

@@kiskiller3 APC units will let you just hook up the "monitoring" USB even to Linux. Shows battery life, time and even let me have the option to shut her down should the battery runs on empty. No need to use their shit software.

[@therealb888]

I have 1600VA UPS and 300Ah of tall tubular battery, oh baby I rejoice power outages, gaming while hear the UPS of other people screaming as I game for an hour. Now that's an investment every gamer should do.

[@DriftHyena]

I'm looking into a lithium ion UPS for fast charge times. My lead acids are starting to wear out.

[@nccish]

I frequently listen to audio books while gaming. It's soothing to do while grinding.

[@ejehereje]

We need an updated video reviewing this year (or last) best ups since pc gaming has been going up, specially this year.

[@t1v210]

Audible as fast as possible (one can only dream..) :)

[@sandermans15]

Its measured in VA because it stands for apparent power and is all the power a battery can deliver. P stands for actual power, this is the power that is used to perform actual work. The difference between these two is caused by the fact the voltage not being in phase with the current this is caused by capacitive or inductive loads (not restive), the cosine of the angle between the voltage and current is called the power factor. P is calculated by voltage times amps times the powerfactor while S is calculated by voltage times amps. Therefore depending on the type of load the actual power to a device can be very different than the apparent power being used.

[@MasterLPV]

my APC UPS rates in watts, says max load is 865W with my desktop a 4790k/770/6drives/2monitor it gives me usually a estimated run time of 45minutes ,, been pretty dang good so far, i live in an area with tons black outs sometimes multiple in a day and alot of energy spikes, my apc has gotten through i'd say about 50 outages without a single issue

[@R3DWiNGPuRiTy]

what model is it? been looking for something that lasts more than 15 minutes with those wattage

[@MasterLPV]

Rj Lao BR1500G+ but note my computer doesn't use even half its max watt at full use

[@geekzone1]

Surprised (and a little disappointed) that you didn't discuss the importance of "square sine", "simulated sine", and "pure sine" UPSes and what sort of equipment needs what quality of power. Rule of thumb: Square sine should only be used for the most non-sensitive electronics. It's a very low-quality power that can damage whatever is connected to it. "Simulated Sine" should be used for computers, monitors, and LED, halogen, or fluorescent light bulbs. "Pure Sine" is for very sensitive equipment, such as speakers or audio interfaces, that absolutely need as close to real AC power as you can get it.

[@Tharkz]

+Ben Hall Also there's the auto-engaged Diesel generator option, for the @3:31 4K gaming :-P

[@deanguitars25]

Would also recommend you guys mention Pure Sine vs Simulated Sine waves. From what I understand simulated sine UPS's are cheaper but may harm components such as screen back lights. Great weekly vids guys!

[@WednesdayMan]

UPS attached to UPS attached to UPS attached to UPS, attach multiple UPSes at once longest power method so when the power goes out you have longer time to use the UPS

[@Starfals]

How often do i have to replace the UPS unit/battery? Every few years? Is it hard or expensive?

[@darklinggolem]

In a Nushell. A PowerBank/Battery Pack but with a Wall Outlet and a Step Up/Down converter and a Power Management

[@KerenWang]

So what's a good recommendation for a 5830k + 980ti +raid + couple drive + 2monitor set up? Preferably with all the software saving options.

[@hikaru-live]

Some UPS have the option of being powered and charge its batteries form solar panels. If your home have solar panels installed or you plan to dose you can use one of these with adequate capacity, and you may be able to pull part (all) of your home off grid, running (almost) entirely off solar power.

[@TankTheSpank]

This was a poorly covered video. First the image of power surges, and talking about UPS is not a very good thing. If you plug in a power surge protector into a UPS you can severly damage your equipment. Look it up. Next you have covered Sinewaves before, but if you are giving a "What to buy UPS" then it's critical to mention the sinewaves...

[@alexmorgan1671]

But what if I plug my ups into my surge protector?

[@TheHumanRanger]

I want to be able to run a presentation online for work without worry of a power blackout/brownout Say I have a standard 120V household power line, and want to run my PC for 10 minutes. The PSU is 600w, monitor about 60 W and I want to keep my modem running. The PSU is sized mainly for my GPU. Also, what must stay running is my wireless headphones and my Scarlett 212 and Rode podmic. The PC I would imagine would be running on minimum power for running Powerpoint, Zoom and a few other apps. What is the VA/W that I would need for a UPS? Thank you in advance

[@shriramvenu]

i wish you would have covered inverter types as well as whether modified/simulated sine wave inverters have any problems with 80+ PF corrected power supplies

[@enfission]

Surprised there is no mention that power supplies with Active PFC require UPS's that output a pure sine wave.

[@kenvme]

Exactly. Pure sine wave UPSes are expensive.

[@John-uj9zy]

A UPS's voltage regulator will allow you to use old school or inexpensive generators. I used to work at a company that made UPS for mainframes and entire buildings. Best investment to protect electronics. Only big downside is the batteries need to be replaced every 2 to 4 years depending on the unit.

[@TheHoaxHotel]

Not having a UPS at a critical moment can actually lead to brown shorts in a way...

[@cpufreak101]

+The Hoax Hotel tbh last time the power failed i was in the middle of studying online, so i kinda felt relieved lol

[@marcse7en]

Se7enQuickie: In 27 years of using and building computers, I have NEVER lost data due to a power outage! ... And I have NEVER felt the need for a UPS! ... In the UK, our power grid is extremely reliable, and our AC outlets are far superior to your God awful US electrics! ... If one uses a laptop, a UPS isn't necessary, as the machine switches to battery in an outage ... The most important thing to remember, is SAVE, SAVE, SAVE! ... Glad I could help! 👍🤣

[@xodius80]

Loop the cable that goes to the wall to the ups and there u get etrenal electricity, you are welcome.

[@xodius80]

***** charge the battery first then wen max enjoy electricity for ever, give it as a gift for generations to come!

[@sammysalter]

+Happy Farmer kenM

[@Nogardtist]

i remember i had 3 blackouts out of no where in a row managed to malfunction my motherboard and force me to seek salvaged parts to make the PC work again so it can be useful depending on financial situation and how much you care about your devices

[@DriftHyena]

I've got a 1500VA pure sine ups for my desktop, server, 2 monitors, printer, and modem. Can run all of them for about 45 minutes tops. Use to be longer but I think the batteries have gone capoopoo on me.

[@octavio2895]

Your volt-amps explaination is wrong. Volt-amps is a measure of apparent power which is a mix of real power (watts) and reactive power (var). Naturally in all practical ac appliances volt-amps are higher than watts because reactive power is almost always present. PSU have a very good power factor (watts/VA) which is a ration of watts to volt amps. That means that his Volt-amps rating is very close to his watts rating which also means that they are design to consume very little reactive power. So that 50% to 75% number you gave is very steep imo.

[@webkar]

+octavio echeverria exactly, if you are not connecting a big ass AC motor to your UPS, the VAr will be quite low

[@josiahroberts4184]

So glad you made a video on this!

[@HalkerVeil]

CyberPower CP1350AVR or 1500VA AVR FTW These have saved my computer from both brownouts and regulated strange pulsing wire voltage that damaged my previous computers. It even logs the events. 2 years going so far.

[@MrJohnnyonfire979]

*hits blunt* "duuuuude, what if you connect like 100 ups together? That's like unlimited power"

[@bskull3232]

It is not because the presence is resistance that causes wattage is not equal to volt times amp. In an ideal resistive load, P=VI. The reason we have VA product usually higher than real power is because the load ia not perfectly resistive. For an ideal resistor, the instantaneous current flowing through equals to the voltage applied instantaneously divided by resistance. Other loads are not. They have a lag between current and voltage, called phase angle. If voltage and current are completely 90 degrees shifted, no matter how much current or voltage, you do not have any real power. As the phase angle shifts from -90 to 90 degrees, your real load power goes from 0 to ideal, V*A, back to 0. In the second and third quadrant, your equipment will be sourcing power to the grid. Therefore, power supplies operate in quadrant 1 and 4, usually the current is a bit lagging. The cosine of the phase angle is called power factor, which is also the ratio between VA and P. In AC world, P=cos(theta)*V*I. Since most modern 80 plus power supplies has power factor correction units built in, the power factor is usually higher than 98%. So, the VA input will be almost the same as real power draw. The VA rating of an UPS is determined by its output stage's capability, and the P rating is determined by its battery to high voltage bus converter's capability. Be sure to consult the UPS's manual or an expert before choosing one.

[@TobyDK91]

Is power outages really that much of a problem in American/Canada?

[@chriswilliams7094]

TobyDK91 yes and no... it is more like the old power lines we have aren't efficient as they could be/ storms knock them down, so the power goes out when you need it not to and when you least expect it, but it ultimately depends on where you live in the us/canada

[@TobyDK91]

@Chris Williams Makes sence. Your distances are quite large too.

[@Kirbythediver]

Just used a "killawatt" meter on each device at a time to calculate before i buy a UPS. Now i've got to decode how UPS wattage works

[@themooq]

To be honest in my 40 years “up-time“ on this earth we only had one power-outage, and that was in the eighties.

[@Spinal2111]

I got a 1500VA Cyberpower UPS on sale, for just under $200. It gives me almost 30 minutes of run-time my rig is mid-range by today's standards. I'd say don't go lower than 1000VA in general to get half decent run-time.

[@rickytorres9089]

650VA ones are not bad, you will easily get 15 minutes if you are on even a modern APU and a couple of 2.5" HDDs.

[@TheElipsus]

i'm skeptical about volt amps, the difference between VA and Watts is the cos phi, the image of dephasing between voltage and current consumption, also named power factor(if the load is purely resistive your cos phi will be 1, if its inductive or capacitive, it will go down, and its not good at all) all modern power power supplies have a PFC corrector, which mean your cosphi is almost at 1, and, in this scenario, VA=W

[@nyonemura5708]

so if my pc uses a maximum of 470w, i have a 650w psu, how many va should i get?

[@ParthRastogi]

how many time that has happened to LMG?

[@drbren12]

+Parth Rastogi Never, they are people who live in a first world country and have to much spare money

[@chimerahitman]

VoltAmps is a unit of power measurement that includes real power (watts) and apparent power. If you know Pythagoras, imagine that the hypothenous is VA and the base of the triangle is real watts, the angle formed between hypothenous and base is called power factor. Now that that is explained, it is as useful as peak power of speakers. A unit to trick the unexpecting buyer. Though if you know your power supplies power factor and power in watts, you can find VA by dividing Watts / Power Factor. It will give you a closer value to what you need. Obviously, you want some headroom. It is more complex than simply dividing by 0.7. To explain, 0.7 is the 70% that was mentioned in the video.

[@chimerahitman]

Well KZbin duck me over with autoplay and writing a comment. Geez, disable autoplay if write comments.

[@thechaoscraftcamtcc3770]

Ah, the one piece of tech that my setup needs that I don't have yet, the backup power supply. Most recently, before I built my current setup, we had a very temporary (>30min) blackout at around eleven PM and that shut down my PC. It had to do some odd startup sequence and restart during this multiple times for the computer itself to actually start up again, and a UPS would've allowed me to save and shut down my computer before I actually did something or, even, kept it running through the whole blackout so I wouldn't have a problem. Still, saving up for one is problematic... wanting to get into the PC-building arena isn't exactly cheap... and neither are apartments, come to think of it...

[@snakewhisperer2010]

Thank you guys for this video

[@billbobbingson673]

What about pure vs. simulated sine wave ups units?

[@kenkalajdzic]

Simply: pure is better.

[@fredbagayas9185]

LUKE, YOUR HAIR! I CANT CONCENTRATE WATCHING

[@AlphaCore_]

Luke's hair is Slick.

[@marioskatsigiannis3047]

they did forgot to talk about on-line UPS and its difference with line interactive ones, as well as their compatibility with the PSUs, based on the waveform they produce

[@xxDrain]

Yeah, but do I need to pay up for the better brands or will any cheap UPS be good enough? I mean the price difference for same VA UPSs can be HUGE. Will the cheapest one save my motherboard from dying in a brown-out just the same?

[@defan2105]

So how do I calculate the amount of power that I have uses? As you can tell, I'm just an end-user! I have a modem, monitor, signal booster (for cell), the main computer (desktop with be quiet! SYSTEM POWER U9 500W BRONZE), and cordless phone base. I have a UPS APC-ES750 and replacement batteries never get past 8 months before I need a new one.

[@AzumiRM]

Just get a UPS designed for loaded server racks. If we lost power at work, our UPS's would keep 6 servers running for up to 1 hour so for a home PC setup, you'd probably be able to carry on playing games until the power grid comes back online.

[@TalesOfWar]

And where, pray tell are you going to put all those batteries? They're exactly cheap either and they weigh (literally) a tonne if you're talking that kind of backup potential.

[@timlipinski2571]

Have an APC Smart-UPS 1500 that backs up the I-5 Desktop Computer, 1080P Monitor, Dell 24-Port Switch and the CenturyLink ADSL Modm. This keeps me up and running when the lights flicker and the clocks need to be reset ! And if the outage lasts a few minutes I will have time to shut down ! tjl

[@ahettinger525]

Actually, line-interactive UPSes kinda suck. If you want a high-end one, look for "double conversion." They are not as efficient because your gear is always on the inverter, but it avoids the imperfections in the sine wave when the UPS switches over. For business use, we saw a huge decrease in failed hard-drives when we made that change. That said, line-interactive units are normally much less expansive than double conversion units.

[@FreshAppleSlices]

Me: man I really need one of these Also me checking prices on Amazon: I guess I'll just keep unplugging my computer during thunderstorms 🥲

[@assizpereira1374]

Great video as always