Teclis Immortal Empires Campaign Review

[@krzysztofbrenskott3813]

I think his campaign works best with Black Pyramid end game crisis. You have your short campaign duel with Kairos and then gear up and work your way to the Pyramid for final showdown. Its nice, cool and thematic for Loremaster to smack bird demon of magic and then discover the secrets of Nagash.

[@albertotejedorgauna]

SHORT

[@BearPawSwipe]

100% agreed.

[@Meander_]

@@albertotejedorgauna No alliance.

[@Grivehn]

'Teclis is ideal for a short campaign.' - You said SHORT????

[@RandomPerson-zy5pr]

There will be no alliance. Only a reckoning

[@samfire3067]

Yep. Turn 4 You get everyone going againts You . Just like old times

[@warhammerguy]

To be honest it is kinda sad to see Sarth go from an endgame boss in wh1 and was prominently shown in the Total War: Warhammer reveal cinematic trailer to not only a generic lord, but a "start battle" lord that is designed to loose on the very first turn to new players. I wonder how the Advisor feels about his old boss.

[@madamwinnifer4666]

Personally I like to see this as Tzeetch levels of trolling, being sent to a point where he's fated to lose for his previously future failings.

[@Indolthir]

Mayhaps they'll turn him into an actual Legendary Lord for Tzeentch one day?

[@josephr4761]

Couldn't agree more. I remember when I first got Sarth to spawn in Warhammer 1, I thought that he was amazing. I always took him as my legendary lord when I played Chaos in multiplayer battles. Sucks to see what they did to him.

[@tomant5495]

Yeah, it is strange that in custom battles he retains his legendary lord status

[@mustardt1ger]

@@josephr4761 he definitely was a wtf is that moment when he popped up on my map for the first time about to attack my settlement 😂😂

[@AgentofProvidence]

If you don't befriend Tiktaq'to, he becomes a major threat in this campaign. But if you do become allied with him, then yeah this is better for a short campaign.

[@BENJAMOSAURUS]

Short?!

[@janstraka8674]

@@BENJAMOSAURUS No alliance!

[@LinkLegend0]

Bro with a high elf army and teclis' magic there is no such thing as "major threat".

[@MusMasi]

SHORT?!

[@gabrielmontenegro9476]

@@MusMasi No alliance!

[@andrewjstockwell]

This is EXACTLY what I wanted when I was asking for a first 20 turns guide. I don't necessarily need a 20 turns, just a general direction to head towards early so I don't fall for traps. I think campaign review with a few tips for the early game is perfect. Thank you Legend!

[@madamwinnifer4666]

I would do a short campaign but mages with dinosaurs sounds too good for me to ignore. A Wizard Lizard campaign 💕

[@MusMasi]

Short!?

[@RoydeanEU]

Short!!!!!????

[@aezrithferova6675]

S H O R T ?

[@SolinOutlander]

*Disgruntled grumbling at the new Grudge*

[@pizleg4203]

THIS IS A RECKONING!

[@cathulionetharn5139]

+5 recruit rank for archmages means you can get net of amyntok or fire weapons One way to go is turn one recruit an archmage get upgraded net of amyntok on her then boost archers (ranged first then melee) then loose, darken the skies. Give that archmage ytour army and max out archers Meanwhile Teclis focuses on magic. In a way this means your legendary lord is secondary to a generic lord since you actually want the archmage to level up as fast as possible until darken the skies Technically you can have Teclis learn net of amyntok and take a fire archmage instead for more damage output on your archers but it will require more levels put into magic on a lord meant to maximise army boosts.

[@mrhamtastic3385]

As Kroq Gar I'm always happy to see Teclis coming up from the south.

[@4head527]

Idk if it changes based on who you play per campaign, but whenever I start one it always seems like someone forgot to tell teclis we started and he just chills there all game

[@dabbingtoast7743]

Agreed. Once you rush down Kairos and sell the Chaos area to the dope Orange Dude the campaign just kinda grinds to a halt.

[@Johnjohnthejohn]

I rush naggarond by turn 40. Keeps things interesting

[@Jixxor]

High Elves that are best suited for a short campaign. I can already hear the Dwarfs scribble another name into the book

[@SereglothIV]

I have a soft spot for Teclis. He was my first successful campaign in WH2, making it also one of the most memorable. To kinda celebrate it, one of my first Immortal Empires campaigns was Rakarth, who starts at the same location Teclis started in the Eye of Vortex. It wasn't quite the same, but close enough :P

[@albertotejedorgauna]

SHORT SPOT

[@4head527]

Love Rakarth, he was my first truly accomplished campaign in WH3. Then the vampire counts end scenario started and I was disheartened

[@rossdaveni9718]

There's been too many times when Kairos used changing of the ways and forced me to retake a settlement and declare war on another faction that i didn't want to.

[@Gandalf0110]

So you say going for Ever-watcher is short-sighted? 😛 I really enjoy this campaign reviews, gives insights into potential campaigns I might try. Keep them coming, have a nice day 😉

[@TheLostArchangel666]

SHORT?!

[@gabrielmontenegro9476]

@@TheLostArchangel666 No alliance!

[@Coeurebene1]

Teclis is OP. His mere presence can derail the order tide.

[@terbentur2943]

I think they changed something about Kairos starting position. The moment I followed your advice he immediately beelined for his capitol and was able to reach it before I could. Someone at CA is watching your videos ;) (on version 3.1)

[@specialbrick84]

Would love to see Throt the Unclean review now that he's surrounded by Kislev and chaos in 3

[@nantukoprime]

He always comes sweeping up in my campaigns that start in/near the desert. Always wondered why, since I knew Kairos was down there. Turns out Kairos flips settlements to Teclis, and Teclis AI I guess has to complete a province?

[@williamm.3612]

During my Paint the Map High Elf Imrik Camp - I realized not taking down the fateweaver until late game actually posed the greatest challenge during the entire campain ( this is with 4 rank 9 dragon doomstacks). My Current Pain the map as Imrik, from turn 1 onwards was a campaign of mobility to take down the fateweaver ASAP. All Legendary ofc.

[@kylewolf740]

Just had fun with this campaign. Ignored the skaven faction for awhile and just hit and ran Tzeentch until Oxy wiped him up. Then fucked off to the little almost hidden islands below Cathay where Tor Elasor is and conquered them. Sailed into cathay and took out Felheart. Eventually took Kugaths islands while Teclis was fucking around in Lustria. Its just a fun odd little campaign where you can sail around and establish these little provinces completely seperated from each other since its so easy to make allies with Teclis and establish outposts nestled deep in friendly territory.

[@christiandauz3742]

Sathorael should be a Legendary Lord for Tzeentch but with full access to all the Undivided Units

[@joedolph9093]

Love these videos, thank you for the content Legend!

[@DamienHayesYo]

Loving this content, you're an absolute unit legend ❤️

[@bobthor9647]

Great video ! Kairos was able to dominate each AI faction with nearly 0 loses, in a recent Teclis campaign I did . I wonder if they buffed his faction in 4.0 Sept 2023 update ?

[@fabucla]

I like strong endgame factions, so my summary, based on your description would be: perfect for complete map domination.

[@milesg7877]

All i would say is 50% allied recruitment discount can make a pretty interesting campaign , as you can add a few types of units from each ally..

[@darthcheesecake3392]

I really like these shorter LL ratings. Would you be willing to do a tier list for generic lords? I think you did one back in TW2 I'd be interested in seeing how they and the TW3 lords stacked up against each other.

[@jackpain7441]

Telcos is one of the easiest campaign in immortal empire for me. Just follow my steps. 1. Destroy Sarthorael. 2. don’t befriend with yellow frog above you, because Tiktaq’to hates it and will declare war on you. 3. Build Army with 4 spearmen and mass archers. 4. Destroy Skaven above you. Now you will have 2 provinces. No need to worry about Kairos, he still getting gangbanged by Oxyotyl and Nurgle. 5. Now you should have discovered Tiktaq’to and Kroq-Gar. Go Lick their scaly tails. 6. Set sails, land on the rightmost of chaos waste, and start slaughtering demons along the way, until you kiss Oxyotyl. 7. All your provinces in this south land are secured now, therefore it’s time to travel to spread Democracy and fight Dictatorship around the world. You play as Teclis, so be like him in the book.

[@muhammadsaduddin308]

Agreed, what make teclis fun isn't "expanding" your territory, but "helping" your ally fighting chaos/skaven/greenskin everywhere

[@jackpain7441]

@@muhammadsaduddin308 Teclis’s strongest weapon is not his magic, but his slick tongue. 😊

[@mattandrews2594]

Uhh, 4 is a complete lie. Last time I played Teclis, Kairos took over most of the Southern Wastes early on and starting attacking my home region.

[@jackpain7441]

@@mattandrews2594 Are you telling me Kairos could take 5 full stacks of Nurgle, Slaanesh, and Oxyotyl in 5 turns???😮

[@mattandrews2594]

@@jackpain7441 No, turn 15 ish

[@nightrunnerks]

I recently picked up this campaign and i found a decent strategy was to turn the minor nurgle and slaanesh factions against him by selling his settlements to them, then wiping them out with oxyotl. After that ive found its easiest to sail over to lustria and help tehenhuein/gor rok beat up the Skaven and french.

[@MatthewBrown-yu1hs]

His faction bonuses aren't superb but they seem awesome in a multiplayer co-op campaign actually. Good relations with a lot of factions and cheap allied recruitment, gets better with each allied player you have!

[@oliverrosenkiewicz797]

I personally like to go for Tor Surpindar first and then take on the army and the leftover settlement. Afterward, Kairos is my next closes goal. This strategy worked for me in a multiplayer session with a friend quite well.

[@Spazz4170]

u gonna make the 20 turn guides again? Those were great imo, would love to see some of the more "difficult" (in wh3) start pos to see what the most optimal strat would be to eliminate annoying factions early and stuff.

[@warhammerknight1500]

I’m playing a campaign with a friend of mine who is playing as kyros fateweaver and I’m playing as Teclis makes the start of the campaign very interesting and different for both.

[@Kelso540]

Hey dude - Mad love for your content. Would love a Karak Kadrin review.

[@WAFFLEMAN38]

Hearing the word "short" mentioned so many times in this after Teclis offended the dwarfs in the IE trailer gave me a lil giggle

[@steffent.6477]

Is he buffing any units aside from costs?

[@DMfromTheAbyss]

What is a fun Legendary Lord to Play? Legend thanks for these reviews they really help with campaign selection. As to who to review next... Allariel or Malekith maybe, feast or famine?

[@SereglothIV]

I think he already did Malekith

[@MusMasi]

in battle tectlis is a ton of fun

[@TheBarser]

In my settra camping, teclis ganged up with kairos and send doomstack after doomstacks after me. I had to bribe a few factions to declare war at them to get some of the heat off.

[@jaredcullum117]

It could be fun to change your focus to creating high elf colonies across the world after defeating Kairos. Role play a little bit. I could totally see it being a really easy campaign after beating Kairos though.

[@Gamblore101]

I hope they buff his campaign mechanics to make it a bit more interesting later on. But yeah his short campaign is extremely fun, especially having tiktaq'to declaring war on you makes things a bit more spicy as well

[@tyran861]

love these types of videos great series

[@Indolthir]

Weird that he still have a diplomatic relations bonus with Dwarves. I remember him coming up a bit SHORT on his relations with them, lately...

[@alnatura7265]

In which dlc do I get the arcane Phoenix? I am right now playing a teclis campaign for my first Warhammer 3 campaign :) and his only mount is a horse right now :/ I really like these videos 👍👍👍

[@silberkralle1866]

The Warden and the Paunch DLC from Warhammer 2

[@InfiniteBoredom149]

Warden and the Paunch

[@TisTheWay]

I would love to see a Boris Ursus campaign overview

[@rossirwin91]

Enjoying these. Keep it up!

[@willfeen]

Teclis was my last Wh2 Mortal Empires campaign … :)

[@baldygrey2779]

Ah yes, Teclis' eternal enemy, Carlos Fateweaver

[@kriegaone3658]

Definitely use the teclis can fly (levitate) mod

[@GrasshopperKelly]

"Short" campaign?!!! *SHORT*!?!!?!!??!!!!!

[@elrondmcbong6392]

2:45 does that actually matter to the AI tho? I've reduced AI factions to literally nothing but single, rogue armies and they were still able to recruit units. I always assumed the AI just cheats units into existence..

[@janstraka8674]

AI does cheat it's units into existence, but still within laws of what buildings it has built

[@zacharyguillotte9852]

i always take the sea lane over to cathay afterwards because after you take out all of that region usaully imrick is still alive and it makes for a little better long game campiegn

[@ashra8281]

Question do people do long and short campaigns or do you favour one?

[@PingachuWarham]

Kairos wasn't a problem at all, he got curbstomped by Oxyotl pretty hard. The Tomb Kings on the other hand...

[@marcinswoboda7993]

Hi Legend. Would you do Khalida next? I am curious to her your opinion on her campaign.

[@x0lopossum]

0:59 Scarry Tzeench sound 🐦.

[@sokar_rostau]

I used to love playing as Teclis but I'd rather play as Eltharion or Imrik and just confederate him now. I like his new starting position and enemies but beyond that he's much more fun in other factions. Teclis leading an army of Mistwalkers, or even Arcane Phoenixes, is too much stupidly OP fun. It's good to be king, and it's good to have a doomstack in command of my doomstack.

[@ktvindicare]

I think it's a total waste to have Teclis' campaign only be interesting for the early goings. And I agree that it is, his start position is TERRIBLE for a longer campaign, not because it's difficult but because it's boring. There's no one else other than the demons to worry about, and in every direction you look, there's very few places to expand to because to the south it's all red territory and to the north it's red desert with only a few jungles to travel to. Your best place to expand to with a significant amount of green territory is all the way over in Lustria which means you need to spend numerous turns ferrying armies over the sea to attack, again, Lizardmen who wouldn't be hostile toward you anyway. It's really lame and the campaign isn't worth playing more than once for this reason. It's completely unpolished once Kyros is dead, offering you nothing you can't get from another High Elf faction except the fact that you get to use Teclis.

[@SereglothIV]

When you do one of his quest battles, you discover Caledor and due to high elves' espionage, the rest of the Ulthuan shortly after. You can confederate and have plenty of pleasant climate there. But I think the frozen climate in Naggaroth is unpleasant for him, at least it was in WH2.

[@ktvindicare]

@@SereglothIV Yea you discover them via the Sword of Teclis quest, but it takes a LONG time and is very boring to expand via confederation that way, especially if Tyrion conquers Caledor like he usually does, then it becomes even more difficult to confederate up there because Tyrion will have a stronger balance of power over you because your own location has such limited expansion and growth options.

[@TheCabarro]

Well, Teclis has somewhat different objectives now, he has the goal of conquer/confederate the elven colonies, which can make for an interesting an diverse game from the Ulthuan elves. But yes, the lack of specific abilities means it gets boring quickly, even if playing with Teclis himself is super-fun, one of my overall favorite LLs

[@SereglothIV]

@@ktvindicare Tyrion isn't the only HE on Ulthuan, there should still be other factions to confederate by the time you do the battle.

[@muhammadsaduddin308]

What makes him fun isn't 'i painted the map' campaign like his brother. What makes him fun is sending reinforcement to everywhere in the world, helping against chaos/skaven/greenskin for your allies without worrying to defend your small bordered nation.

[@invictus7736]

The reality of the "abandon your starting province and go hunt down Kairos" play is you lose your capital to a rebellion by turn 9, lose your port to the tzeentch faction you left behind shortly after, the settlement you took from Kairos rebels in 1 turn giving you another enemy and Kairos will have a full army of much better troops whereas you'll only have half an army because you can't recruit shit while you're at sea or in the chaos wastes. Kairos will also kill Nurgle before it's physically possible to get to his first settlement. Terrible strategy.

[@rafakal9823]

Is WH3 good to play right now or should I keep waiting?

[@grishnak6162]

Is good!

[@TheBulstrom]

Sounds like you decided my next campaign, thanks!

[@emrysmyridden]

Teclis: Friends? what are those? I can beat everyone so why do i want friends?

[@gregoryshinn9805]

Thanks for the video

[@Gozzu9195]

I still LOVE these vids

[@blueeyezkan1765]

Would still love an Arkhan the black review

[@MrDragonBomber]

can you do khazrak next?

[@soggycupcake291]

It’s gonna be a sad day when there are no more campaign reviews

[@enoughothis]

Benedict Cumberelf

[@MrFive2FiveVods]

who would you recommened a full map clear on?

[@totalwarfreak9628]

I agree with the shorter campaign but not because the lack of mechanics tho that is a valid point. I keep them short because if you want to keep expanding his empire runs only into red and yellow climates once you have cleared the southern half of the badlands. After that you have to go to lustria the islands or ulthuon just for a green climate and that is incredibly annoying to me. I want them to change the climate system so badly because in red or yellow climate it takes 10 turns to build providence building because they already take 3-5 turns now with the new building changes

[@Greshgore]

I get that it might not be an ideal solution because it's not an official part of the game but there are mods that can alter or completely eliminate the climate mechanic.

[@wardvos7925]

+15 relations with dwarfs..... "SHORT?"

[@eust117]

Also the suitable climates for Teclis are as much of a disgrace as Tyrion's. Compared to Eltharion (who gets barren wasteland plus all the HE naturals), or better yet, Imrik (who also gets mountain), you soon find yourself limited to sth like 10 suitable provinces, with the deserts of Nehekhara being uninhabitable to the North, and the chaos wastes to the south. Super boring and annoying having to deal with that. Also, why on earth do HE not like temperate climate??

[@TailRunnerOPSpec]

TikTaq loves to declare war randomly. I had him +45 and he declared war.

[@theStonerKid69]

Oh, thank the lord they moved Teclis' start position from that spot where he was right next to Kroq'gar. Must have missed the patch notes on that. That position sucked to high hell, and made both his and Kroq'gar's campaigns absolutely horrible, in my opinion.

[@kyleshuler2929]

His strategy is wrong at the start. I left that other Tzeentch faction alone and they had a Doom Knights stack on turn 4.

[@colonelburton2923]

Almost as if the game and AI changes over time and your comment is 11 months from when this was posted and the game has changed loads since then.... idiot

[@mathdarven5634]

Careful if you wanna start to expand in the Southern Chaos Wastes. As surprising as it might be, your biggest enemy out there isn't Kairos. It's Oxyotl. As soon as I took down Kairos, he declared war on me. After a war that was going on for too long IMO, damned be those blessed spawns, savage orcs popped in his territory (in the Southern Chaos Wastes. CA, explain. Right now). And despite me dropping a shitload of influence to degrade their relations into pure hatred, to be safe, they attacked me. Luckily I was able to peace out with Oxyotl with a NAP so I could Benny Hill style chase the orcs over my territory. And once I finally dealt with the orcs, Oxyotl declared war on me again, breaking the NAP in the process. I took one more whole province from him and we were able to settle this out, even getting an alliance after some influence shenanigans. I'm 150 turns in and having a fun time, but all this crap slowed my progress by a large amount. I'm getting through the Southland Thunder Dome, preparing to face the Vampire endgame crisis, and also Ulthuan has fallen to Slaneesh, Tyrion still resisting vaillantly while Alarielle has become N'Kari's pawn. It may not be the most interesting High Elf campaign, I may have had a slow start, but the game has thrown too much shit on the table for me to stop it. Between beating the crisis, giving Skarbrand and the Tomb Kings what they deserve, and liberating the donut, this is the most fun I had in a Total War game since that time I thought playing the Ardiaei in Rome II was a good idea, and my full map completion of the Sun Jian campaign in 3K.

[@Greshgore]

Supposedly in 3.0 they've made changes to how the AI functions in relation to the players so depending on the impact of those they should be more likely to at the very least attack you and the AI both instead of preferring to attack you.

[@mathdarven5634]

@@Greshgore Yeah maybe that will solve the Oxyotl problem, and the savage orc and beastmen focused on being annoying mosquitoes that I can't seem to easily get rid of. Sadly my phone is handling my internet for now so until I have a proper internet connection, I won't be able to download the update.

[@ates423]

SHOOORT!? HEIGHHT??? TALL???!!! Some angry dwarf

[@jacobwoods2918]

Can you do valkia next.

[@GargoyleDX]

When I played this campaign for the first time, for some reason everyone soon or later declared war at me. All the lizards around, dwarfs, vampires, Tomb Kings... Even Repanse

[@mort1616]

It's at that point that you decide to say feck it, This Is Total War campaign... And send it in to Legend to fix when it gets too much..

[@leolinguini260]

Teclis is the OneNightStand campaign for Warhammer III.

[@1000chavachavez]

Volkmar The Grim next?

[@Zolgronin]

How about Mazdamundi?

[@SaintSpenstar]

Where is Krell?!? 😈💀 We have more mausoleums to defile! - Kemmler

[@STEEEZplaysgames]

SFO teclis is very fun but i will agree with you vanilla teclis doesnt offer anything to keep plaing him after you pacify the southlands. maybe if you have tomb kings crisis on but every game i found bretonia, empire and lizardmen factions always curb stomp ai tomb kings and when the crisis happens they loose a few settlemnts but take them back after a few turns so the dont really need you. If they added a new mechanic to him and made the lizardmen factions north of him to not start with and instant 20 plus relations with teclis hed probably be top 5 campaigns for me because i enjoy him in game and lore wise so much but CA just missed the ball with him

[@martpepkin472]

I let kairos survive in early game. He deleted me at turn 50. It was a short campaign indeed!

[@StarzAlpha]

Khalida next!

[@muylae]

you said sarthorael is just generic, that's not completely true, he has 800 hp less, 5 melee attack less, 5 melee defence less, 5 charge less, doesn't have prismatic plurality ability, but instead of costing 510 in upkeep like a regular lord of change, his upkeep is only 102 and he starts of as immortal. that's as far as i can tell at least. quite underwhelming as a semi legendary lord, but dirt cheap.

[@TheRewasder97]

How can he have +15 with dwarfs with how inconsiderate he is in his speaking!?

[@MusMasi]

SHORT!?🤣

[@elmanhux]

Imo every HE campaign NOT on the donut can be a more interesting one since the donut is still the easiest and most comfy area to be in

[@devinrunyan]

Sarthrale = Sarthorael?

[@laurencejhopkins]

First

[@anthonybreach2930]

Sometimes, to beat Tzeentch, you have to *become* Tzeentch

[@senshibat8920]

Then the Haughtiest of elf things uses the everchicken to stuff his pillow. i like it.

[@MusMasi]

yes yes!

[@jumpjimcrow6959]

Top 5 smartest A.I. in Total War Games...

[@MusMasi]

Sarthshow Bob.

[@KazeKoichi]

Boris Ursus.

[@patchesgaming9139]

Noctilus

[@fitisdead8029]

legund of tutoal wurr.

[@Zucca2011]

More lizardmen plz

[@emile4249]

Kalida could be the next lord.

[@kentcarreon2707]

GOR ROK

[@isti-zs9sp]

4:21 SHORT ?