Ted Lasso 2x12 'Inverting the Pyramid of Success' | Season Finale Reaction

[@TBoring]

17:59 The “Renaissance Painting portraying masculine melancholy” is probably my favorite joke in the whole show. 😂😂

[@CurtTweedle]

And I keep wanting to make that into a Renaissance-style painting.

[@tomasvanous2753]

it reminded me Family guy, Peter Griffin style of "flashbacks" 🤣

[@black_sam_edits]

Nate's villain origin story didn't start with being propped up, it started with him being shat on for his whole life.

[@Dirkus17]

Yup, and he is/was in the middle of growing and building himself up, with help and recognition primarily from Ted. But he wasn't finished - he had much further to go but now this year (to him) is being ripped away from him piece by piece. Ted brings in Roy as a coach pushing him (as he sees it) down the pecking order, Roy handwaves his misguided kiss of Keely (at least be a _little_ annoyed instead of not treating it as any threat - how small must that make him feel?), his father chastised him for feeling pride that he got his name in the papers, he is fobbed off for a table by the window at a restaurant until he learns to become assertive/nasty. A man scratching and clawing to pull himself from the hole created by his anxiety and fear, bullied throughout his life, had just started peeking into the sunlight - but hadn't made it all the way yet - only to see (in his eyes) those who he thought were on his side kicking him back down again. And a black shite in nining armour with a siren song promising a way out. As a wise man once sang: "Now I've swung right down again it's worse than it was before. If I hadn't seen such riches I could live with being poor". Stop punching down on Nate, ladies. Hurt people hurt people. Learn the lesson of the show. Break the cycle.

[@tehcoolemu]

And then taking it out on the person who quite possibly deserved it the least. The only explanation I could come up with is that he knew Ted would just take it. He was a safe target for his wrath; he wouldn't fight back. Bullying behavior.

[@shect1]

@@tehcoolemuthe first guy who treated him like an equal instead of humiliating him, but that makes the betrayal he feels bigger, so he's actually mad at Ted, not just lashing out at him because he'll take it.

[@vince8337]

@@tehcoolemu He didn't target Ted, Ted asked him what was wrong, for him to explain things to him. He was projecting his feelings for his dad onto Ted who he had started to view as the father figure he's always wanted.

[@ianoo23]

@@Dirkus17perfect analysis… only one correction 😂 The James lyric I believe there is one word wrong! I used to sing it a lot when I played guitar and I’m sure it’s “back down again” not right down again. 😂 If I’m right it’s for your own good you know the truth! 😂😂😂 👏🏻👌👍

[@HarbekVideos]

Deep lore time!! The episode title "Inverting the Pyramid of Success" is about Nate, and is a mix of: 1) "Inverting the Pyramid", a football book Beard keeps reading. The inverted pyramid is a the 5-3-2 formation, a defensive formation. The epilogue "5 days 3 weeks 2 months" is a reference to this. 2) And "The pyramid of success", the structure for teamwork that Ted has on his wall. At the base you have friendship, loyalty, cooperation... At the top you have "competitive greatness". Nate is inverting the pyramid of success. He is putting "competitive greatness" above all else, above loyalty and friendship. This show is SO well written and so deeply thought out. ❤

[@fvefve12]

This is why I read the comments!

[@fayesouthall6604]

@@HarbekVideos Brilliant show. Notice the sign as Nate leaves angrily after his rant at Ted. “ quitters never win, winners never quit.” Another delicious piece of cake that is this show.

[@zh2184]

How the actor Nick Mohammed is not an A-list superstar is a mystery. His performance and range on Ted Lasso is elite. The proof is right here - how Maple and Arianna have such visceral reactions to his scenes.

[@fayesouthall6604]

He is a genius because we loved him, then hated him. He won’t change until he gets validation from his father…

[@vicentegeonix]

Well to be honest these ladies flip flop on characters all the time.

[@BigSexyWizard]

id argue its more the writing then his acting.

[@kathyastrom1315]

I was surprised when I rewatched the movie The Martian after seeing Ted Lasso and saw Nick in it! (He played the JPL guy who was video-chatting with Mark when they first established communication.)

[@ElizStewart80]

His comedic timing is just impeccable.

[@Crazyivan777]

I love Sam's expression during Akufo's rant. He seriously looks like he's thinking, "Well.... Dodged a bullet there..."

[@adambulmash6880]

“Is this projecting what Nate actually wants to say to his father?” Yes. That’s exactly what this is. Nate was looking for a father figure in Ted who could give him the attention and affirmations he couldn’t get from his real father. And the tragedy is that Nate doesn’t realize that Ted really did think of him in that way. Even put his picture right next to his son’s - in his own home, where Nate couldn’t see it. There’s some other psychological stuff going on here too. The 15 minutes of fame has definitely gone to Nate’s head. Add to that the fact that Nate has only ever gotten affirmation and positive feedback from the team when he’s been mean to them, and you start to see how Nate could become this way. It’s frustrating, but I think it’s real.

[@stupidsminkle]

On a rewatch you can see his reaction any time someone (like Ted or Roy) doesnt consider him a threat or hiring Roy on made Nate feel insecure. Those small facial twitches are so telling once you see his whole story!

[@ALeafOnTheWind42]

I also don't think Nate's feelings that Ted abandoned him are completely out of nowhere when you look at it from his perspective, even though we has observers with greater perspective realize that's not the case. But if you look at Nate's perspective, in season 1 Ted was constantly encouraging him and building him up to be greater. Because that's Ted's coaching style. Building people up to be the best versions of themselves. But eventually, that involves letting them go so they can thrive. Ted stopped giving Nate the individual attention and "coaching" because he thought Nate was in a place where he could thrive. But the reality is that Nate wasn't thriving because he hadn't dealt with the underlying issues (something Ted didn't know about, and given his history with therapy before this season, likely didn't even think would be a relevant thing to unpack). So when Ted backed off so he could thrive, Nate just had a deep feeling of being abandoned.. And just to emphasize the point, it's talked about a bit, but before the scene at the end of this episode, the last time that Ted and Nate shared a scene by themselves was in Liverpool before Nate's roast of the team

[@TheChiraagG]

​@@ALeafOnTheWind42also Ted had so much of his own stuff going on. It's a difficult situation for him being where he is dealing with his own stuff.

[@sdaubs]

@@ALeafOnTheWind42 Add in Higgins's and Keelie's scene about a good mentor vs a great mentor. Ted was trying to be a great mentor but Nate doesn't see it that way

[@elowe2]

wow...I never thought of the fact that Nate always got positive feedback from the team when he was mean to them - that whole roast piece was exactly this. Great observation.

[@rimreckable]

Nate has shown signs of who he truly was right from the very first season. He takes power where he can. Forinstance, when he wrote out the criticisms of the team and gave his speech he became more confident and meaner in his delivery. Nate is someone who has been bullied and in turn, will bully when given the chance

[@seriomarkj]

Also when ted first gets to Richmond he immediately yells at them to get off the pitch until he realizes who ted is

[@grindlebone]

Leslie Higgins is the unsung philosopher-poet at the heart of Richmond

[@jacksonhaymore7615]

Nate's hair getting progressively more and more grey as the season went on is such a subtle way to show him spiraling. The small details in this show are incredible

[@suriyaphromnopavong5272]

“I don't like baths. It makes my skin all wrinkly and I'm deeply afraid of aging.” -- Nate during Season 1

[@spankyhi]

@@suriyaphromnopavong5272 yup he's not going gray he just stopped dying it black

[@blueeyedcowboy8291]

Roy gives the best line of the show when he expresses that being left out of the article "Hurt. His. Feeling." Singular, LOL!

[@Crazyivan777]

Roy hugging Jamie starts the BEST character arc of the series!

[@fayesouthall6604]

Season 3 bromance

[@robertbunting3117]

"Horticulture, BayBeeee."

[@maswarm4585]

25:23 I like how Akufo puts on this act of being “not like all the other billionaires” but at the end of the day he’s just another entitled rich boy that got everything he ever wanted

[@geneticjen9312]

I had the total opposite reaction with Nate. I was confused what they were doing with him all season and then it all paid off beautifully with the ending. His downfall started so subtle that for a while I wasn't even sure if it was deliberate and then the final reveal confirms it all and that they've got a plan for him and know what they're doing. It gave me faith that his story was going somewhere. So yeah opposite reaction

[@QuackAttack]

24:52 Ghana and Nigeria have a sort of sibling rivalry between themselves. Both countries were former British colonies, but Ghana was the FIRST country to gain its independence from colonial rule in 1957 (Nigeria later gained independence in 1960). Politics and history aside, the rivalry is often fueled by its football/soccer rivalry between Ghana's Black Stars vs Nigeria's Super Eagles. Other than that, there is also the intense debate over which country's jollof rice is superior (Ghana's, duh 😜), which leads to a lot of banter/ribbing between Ghanaians and Nigerians (I have a British friend whose parents are Nigerian, and we constantly rip on each another about such things; I even tagged him with a pic of jollof rice from my family's Christmas dinner a week ago 😅) 25:47 Mr. Akufo called Sam a fool ("kwasia" in Twi, although it IS considered a swear word so in this context, the meaning would be more like "dumbass")... that being said, I swear to you, not all Ghanaians are as tempermental or as rude as Mr. Akufo is 😟

[@nickwiederhold]

This is the best.

[@courtneywalmsley8284]

For baseball fans, the New York Yankees a 36:01 nd the Boston Red Sox are considered mortal enemies-no goofy banter, no good natured ribbing, just primal hate.

[@ProfessionalBob]

It's a shame the Ghanaians and Nigerians spend so much energy bickering over who has the best Jollof, when the whole time the best Jollof has actually been Senegambian 😜

[@ImNotHereEither]

I literally can’t wait for you to see S3. You’ll fucking love it. By the way, you two and this series is a little emotional outlet for me, it’s my therapy. Tears are your bodies way of healing the head right? As someone who’s neurodivergent and struggled with depression and anxiety, and a man who now enjoys a little cry every now and again, and who watches shows like yours to share in these lovely stories, I can’t ever stress how important it is to just talk and always promote a constructive discussion around mental health. Like Ted says, the more time we spend understanding rather than judging, especially regarding ourselves, we’ll all be better off for it. Thanks for all the time you put in, and a happy new year to you and your community.

[@bobkatfan2013]

The character of Sam was originally written for Sam Richardson, who plays Edwin Okufu, they even kept the name. In real life he’s as nice as the the Sam character, which makes Edwin even more hilarious.

[@Mourtzouphlos240]

Nate's Arc reminds me of Fred Flintsone's in the Flintstone movie from back in the 90s. "All my life I wanted to be A Somebody, and when I did I turned into somebody I didn't like."

[@Johnny_Socko]

"You go to what you know, and Rupert is what Nate knows." Damn Ariana, that's a bingo. Ted "failed" Nate as a surrogate dad, so now Nate will gravitate toward a man who really is like his own dad, in terms of how he treats people. (Although in fairness, Rupert is even worse than Nate's dad.)

[@Andorski]

20:25 - IIRC Ted has the photo at home. Nate's anger comes from a complete misunderstanding of Ted's behavior towards him mixed with Nate's own personal issues. Ted has been less focused on him compared to season 1, which makes sense because Ted had to deal with his own mental issues. We as the audience saw what he was going through, but most of the characters - including Nate - did not. Nate isn't owed Ted's attention, but in the first season that positive attitude from Lasso was the only good thing Nate had going for him. Before he was harassed by players, ignored by the team staff, and cold shouldered by his father. So I can see how Nate garnered the feeling of having the rug swept from under him, even if it isn't warranted.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Beard saw Nate acting nasty to Colin and corrected him, plus he sees him craving the top job and doesn’t mention it to Ted.

[@douglas2938]

@@fayesouthall6604 Yeah, but it's also a combination of things that pile up. We see Nate visibly upset when Roy joins the staff, but after that there are several other little things and Beard only sees a few of them, but he still tried to get ahold of the situation when he talked to Ted about it after all of that. Both him and Ted could have done more before things exploded but I'd say Beard did what he could (without going over Ted's head).

[@RAGGINIT11]

At the funeral, that’s what Rupert whispered to him. Which is why he latched out.

[@YurikRoss]

True. He knew he had that gig lined up where he could be the one getting all the attention thats why he spew his bile at Ted

[@fayesouthall6604]

@@YurikRosshe could have just quit.

[@YurikRoss]

@@fayesouthall6604 I think he just had this weird frustration building up and he was waiting for the end of the season to start his new coaching job. When Ted asked him it just all came out

[@alonsovasquez7231]

3:33 lieutenant Kaffee is reference to A Few Good Men, “you can’t handle the truth!” Love it!!😂😂😂

[@seriomarkj]

6:29 that starter jacket would have been tight

[@bobfather7355]

Nates Grey, hair is him imitating his new father figure Rupert.

[@acrobat89]

The speech Nate gives Ted about why he's so mad at him is important. Next season, Rebecca talks about how Rupert won her over and then broke her heart, and it's almost the exact same speech. I haven't seen any reactors catch this yet.

[@kingpisces7029]

I love how Roy’s reaction to a diamond dogs session is the same as Ted’s reaction with Rebecca and girl talk lol

[@Xone9]

21:01 - Yep, you 100% nailed it.

[@ianferguson5410]

The recipe uses 3/4 of a cup of sugar and 1/4 teaspoon of salt. That is a HUGE mix up, lol

[@PhilospherStoned]

you guys are correct that there was a therapist in the show that Nate could’ve talked to, but yall should know just because you lead someone to water doesn’t mean they’re going to drink lmao.

[@ryanschramm8147]

I'm going to post what I said in a reddit thread about Nate's actions, bear with me because I ramble: Mental illness isn't something that you can explain logically. For example I suffer from a subcondition of ADHD called Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria, which basically means my brain can't process feelings of rejection or even perceived rejection so it often results in extreme emotional reactions It's something that's very deliberately shown after Nate's Wonderkid moment: One insult can drown out 100 cheers. In a way, Nate got addicted/reliant on Ted's approval, but it came less and less. One thing that was pointed out in a video essay is Ted pulling Nate aside and apologizing before sending him to roast the team? That's the last time Nate and Ted are alone and have a 1 on 1 conversation until the season 2 finale. By bringing in Roy, Ted relied on Nate less, made Nate feel like he was needed less (and he was, that's the point of increasing staff), but Nate equated need with want. Naturally there's the "Ted laughs at Nate for suggesting he's a big dog who can talk to Isaac" scene, I think that's self explanatory for the damage it did to Nate's self esteem. Nate yells at Ted for not having the picture Nate gave him for Christmas up in the office. Now we know Ted has it at home, Nate doesn't, and without being told/shown it, Nate's mind is going into the complete worst case scenario. Did Ted just put it in a drawer? Did he throw it in the bin? When Beard called Nate out for his treatment of Colin, one of Nate's first reactions is to ask of he told Ted, then he went out of his way and apologized in front of Ted. I can't help but feel like he wanted Ted to be aware, maybe pull him aside, talk to him again. The best I can explain it is Nate has a massive ego...but rock bottom self esteem. They aren't subtle about his spitting ritual, usually spitting in a mirror, because Nate very clearly hates himself, or hates his own perception of who he is/was. And to be clear, none of this is 'right' or 'fair.' Ted did pull back, but a lot of that had to do with him working through his own issues and fixing himself. But what I'm aiming at is saying even though it's easy to say "Nate's just insecure and Ted did nothing wrong," reality is often much more nuanced. Ted never meant to hurt Nate, but Nate has his own perspective, and while it was incorrect, it's scarily easy for me as someone who has struggled with his own mental illness to be able to immediately identify and understand the path his mind went on to get him where he ended up.

[@_surayya_]

i have the same! for nate, i think it feels worse because it's clear that he's not a good friend to ted AT ALL. forgive me if i mix anything up (i've only seen these reactions and that episode was a long time ago), but when ted had his panic attack, there would have been an opportunity to be vulnerable with him. like a good friend would have been concerned and tried to talk to him. and if that wasn't possible, he could have written a letter or a text or SOMETHING to reassure ted that they're all there if he needed them. it didn't even have to be personal, it could have been on behalf of the general "team". if i were in nate's shoes, i would have written a letter abt how ted's done so much good for everyone, and when i've felt like i'm not enough, i would have wanted someone to tell me that about myself. that would make it so that i wasn't assuming or poking too far, but i was being vulnerable enough that he knew i could relate and wouldn't judge. even if it wasn't clear why he was having a panic attack, it's at least general enough that it could apply to anything. he could have asked the team to all pitch in for some kind of gift or gesture (maybe a "believe" plaque or something for his office. that would have been sweet!), and if he was scared no one would listen he could have asked a nice teammate like sam who would have rallied the team to help. the difference is that the nate in the show believes that he is entitled to kindness and friendship, but doesn't believe that he should be giving that to ted or anyone else. most people i've known who have rsd have become overly attentive with their friends for fear of hurting them or being left behind, while ignoring their own feelings and ending up burnt out, exhausted, and isolated. nate is constantly thinking about only himself. the rsd feeling of "i deserve love and kindness, why don't i have it?" is 100% valid. i think nate needs to reflect on what he's putting out into the world. it's not just a defense thing of not wanting anyone close enough to hurt him, it's a style of entitlement and individualism that capitalism encourages. it's great writing bc it makes us all feel something. i think it's a very good example of how trauma doesn't automatically make people more empathetic, and how the first stage of healing/kindness is a choice you make that has to be made on your own (but can be nourished and improved upon by others).

[@Whyno29]

FML I’ve been watching this thinking yall were months ahead only to realize this was just uploaded today

[@bigjoeofthe707]

I like how Beard knew it was Nate and like a true friend had Ted’s back. Beard is the man.

[@roykentseyebrows4196]

If you remember, Nate had anger and negativity from his first second when he ran across the field screaming at Ted and Beard.

[@TheAes86]

I think they said the last time Ted and Nate had a one on one conversation was like the 1st episode of season 2 or the last one of season 1. That's was a marker of how he felt "abandoned." He took Ted as a substitute father figure, then felt left out after Ted promoted him and left him to coach, because he was no longer the kit man being bullied. But Nate still wanted that tlc from Ted even though he had helped prop him up.

[@TheAes86]

Also That's why Nate was not happy that Roy said he was fine with Nate's mistake. As if Nate was a nobody, harmless and it didn't matter because he wasn't a threat. And Nate had wanted to be thought of as a somebody, especially after his disapproving father and being bullied as a kid and kit man. Most bullies start off by being bullied.

[@SLift-mn8hi]

With Nate and Ted, Ted kind of entered as this mythic figure and spent so much of S1 changing things/lifting everyone- especially Nate- up... and then in S2 he (understandably) becomes focused on his own mental health, and Nate did kind of fall by the wayside. Now, Nate is a grown adult, so Ted not being able to pay constant attention to him isn't really on Ted. But, as Ted did say to Doc Sharon, he was determined never to let another person pass him by without knowing how loved they were after his father... and yet the signs of his love for Nate (the picture Nate gave him is in Ted's apartment/flat) weren't there for Nate to see as this season progressed, even though Ted did still care. Ted is trying to pump Nate back up here- he thinks Nate feels underappreciated for his strategic input or like Ted's taking credit (which makes sense after "the Wonderkind" or Nate confessing in that one Diamond Dogs scene about how he sometimes strategically delays his reveals for maximum impact), so Ted repeats that it's Nate's strategy and he has faith in it... except at this point Nate is insecure and thinks Ted is setting him up as a scapegoat. Which is interesting in the sense that Rebecca "imported" Ted to wreck Richmond's chances last season, actually setting him up to fail (though in her case she wasn't hoping to look like a great owner, she just wanted to cause reciprocal pain for Rupert). So there is precedent in the show, but Rebecca has grown and in this episode, Higgins gives Keeley the advice that mentors want their mentees to succeed directly wrt Rebecca- advice he would have gladly given Nate about Ted if the opportunity arose. Also in this episode, Jaime chose not to take the penalty and got Dani to take it- and that could have been seen (by a paranoid actor) as Jaime trying to dodge responsibility/blame if he were to miss the shot and put that on Dani, but instead it was all about setting things up for his friend to have a great moment of growth/reassurance. That's what Ted wanted for Nate- his False Nine to work (and it did), but Nate was so in his own head by that point that it was too late. It's all very human and very interior and I think familiar to most viewers in some capacity- and so I totally get the anger at Nate right now, but there is still hope for him to rebound. He always had flaws, he's always going to have some degree of flaws, but there's still a chance to work toward a better version of himself in season 3, even if that means leaving Ted's side and getting his chance in the spotlight to succeed or fail. And while the show wasn't centered around Nate's mindset, Nick Mohammed did a great job of still delivering the character's perspective and upset.

[@justinsullivan5839]

Higgins remains my favorite character in the show.

[@reymondcastro8354]

The fact that none of us saw those small moments in the show when he was ignored that were not too obvious unless you pay enough attention, is proof of how poor we are as humans in empathy.

[@patrickmcdaniel5756]

And quick to judgement. He was written to be disliked as a character obviously so its not surprising everyone hates nate. The writers of this show are brilliant imo. But the big take away here imo is Ted's discussion during the funeral episode about his dad. He wished he had told him he was good more often... and you dont ever know what's going on in someones head so he didn't want to let someone like that get by him again. Cough cough.. nate in his final blow up in the finale. A theme we see repeat in the show alot (Kelly feeling smothered by roy). Bottle it up and it lashes out in bad ways or primarily ted himself across the entire show. Its not rational, its not good or bad, it's just human.

[@MarcoMM1]

I felt the same way about nate but in the end of the show you will understand.

[@BumpyBaluga]

"FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!!" 😂😂😂😂

[@fayesouthall6604]

Not wrong…

[@aquele4virou3]

I saw something recently about Nate’s father that made me see things differently, although I never thought he was as bad as a lot of people think. Yes, he is emotionally distant and expected a lot, and it probably stems from a lot of generational trauma. But also Nate often misinterprets things with him because of his self doubt and this way he has of expecting the worst from everything and everyone, and as you said, projection. But it can’t be blamed all on his father. During the newspaper scene, he tries to show his father the paper and then he said: they will put anyone in the paper these days. And after that, his father tells “humility is not thinking less of yourself, but thinking of yourself less”. And Nate, and a lot of the audience, think this to be a dig. But can also be his way of telling “don’t overthink things, you are there because you did a good thing. Don’t think less of yourself, think less of what others think of you”. And it seems he does this with most people. He has a problem with communication, he can’t impose himself unless he is being rude, as we see in the speech during s1 or when he screams at Keeley when they are training him speaking with the hostess, or when he called Rebecca a shrew when he thought she was firing him. He goes meek to asshole, no in between. But this can’t be all blamed on his father, because while he has difficulties communicating, especially the emotional side, Nate also never asked what did he mean. There’s more with his father that I won’t say now, but a lot of what he says can be interpreted both as a put down or as a tentative lesson or cheer. We only know of his behavior through Nate, but he distorts things to fit his narrative. Even his dad saying he was not a dog was not a dig. And Nate did this with Ted. He invented that Ted took credit, when he was always open, even with Trent in ep 3, about Nate’s plays, he made up the picture thing (it’s in Ted’s house dresser, beside a picture of Henry!), he made himself believe Roy was his substitute, he made up a rivalry with Will, he got back at Colin because he was the weak link, he could never get revenge with Isaac or Jamie because they are intimidating. And when Ted told them of the panic attack, if Nate wanted, he could have figured out why Ted was more distant, that he too has his problems. Anyways, Nate is complex, and this show is also about fathers and sons (Ted and Henry, Ted and his dad, Jamie and his dad, Sam and his dad, Rebecca and her dad, Nate and his dad), but his dad is also not the one to blame, Nate did a lot of the damage on his own. He saw Ted as a dad, and he can be one a lot of times, but in truth he is only a father to Henry, and that expectation was out on him by Nate without him knowing. But the build up was very well done. Nick Mohammed did some play by play of hints about Nate since s1 on his IG, and also for s3. Worth the read.

[@thomashoagland5046]

When do we get to to see Ariana & Maple start to review season 3? Specifically episodes 6 & 7... Two of the best episodes they made IMHO.

[@Blazingstoke]

I love the reference to _Major League_ at the end of the match. One of the best sports movies ever!

[@Quixotic1018]

Nate was written as unhinged with anger management issues since day 1. Season 2 just gave him a stage to have that anger actually affect other people. First time we see him he yelled at Beard and Ted until he learned who they were. That being said, I'm curious how you react to his season 3 arc.

[@bigjoeofthe707]

Oh yeah. Come on Richmond!

[@Livestrong00782]

What is the message of this amazing show, BELIEVE! BELIEVE, just BELIEVE,

[@Bekka_Noyb]

Frakkin ♥ this show!

[@TheCubert120]

You have to pay attention more. Nate was slighted by Ted once in every episode. You have to see it to get it.

[@rbrainsop1]

I totally get how you guys feel about Nate. You're obviously not alone in that. But it's not just about having seen his full arc and having 20/20 hindsight. The thing about this show is, everyone loves Ted for the kind person he is, and how he sees and calls out the best in everyone. Most everyone says they want to be like him. But truly being like him means seeing and calling out the best even in people like Nate, even without knowing how his story may or may not end. Ted doesn't withhold his love and approval from people until they shape up and deserve it. He loves them into it. That's what he did with Jamie, even though it was difficult (even for Ted). And that's what we need to do with people like Nate, if we hope to be anything like him. That doesn't mean allowing them to abuse us. But it does mean seeing the hurt behind their words/actions, and looking even beyond that to the person they could be. It means rooting for them to be better, not hating/punishing them for not being better yet. It's hard, and most of us don't do it very well (me included). But if we take anything away from this show, I hope it's that.

[@ta13x]

I have no issues with Nate's storyline this season. We've seen how much he struggles with his relationship with his Dad. He went from being openly bullied at his place of work to suddenly being in a postion of authority. Before he really gets settled, the person who he'd projected all his fatherly feelings onto brings in another coach who is far more secure and established. Nate doesn't have the skillset or social awareness to recognise that Roy has no interest in replacing/overshaddowing him. Plus Ted has been dealing with his mental health issues all season so wasn't as engaged with Nate as he was in S1. Does it stop me from being enraged as i watch? Nope 😂 but it makes sense given the character. Besides, we;'re supposed mad at this, so that's ok! 😂 Looking forward to seeing how you guys feel about how this arc unfolds next season. They make some...er... interesting(?) choices with the pacing that i'm really not sure the show benefits from, but can't wait to see your takes!

[@alexpfeifer1096]

It's funny how we all had a fairly similar reaction to the ending of season 2. Infuriating, yet...

[@60secthebaptist9]

When the series started, it was mentioned that the storyline would parallel "The Empire Strikes Back," in which Anakin has become Darth Vader no spoilers so Ill leave it there.

[@stupidsminkle]

Happy new year!

[@fernandopaiz3696]

Honestly Nate was a coward for not being a man and telling his OWN father what he needed to say instead of taking it all out on the ONLY person who brought him out of his own shell. He got zero sympathy from me especially in season 3

[@Dirkus17]

By the way, the sports fan in me really wants to know the story of what happened to the third placed team. Last week, Richmond just needed to beat Brentford to assure promotion. This week, they drew that game 2-2, and it was enough. This means that the team(s) chasing them for second had to have been able to overtake them with a win. And they failed to do so. Last season, Richmond needed a win to stay in the Premier League, but going into injury time learned that Crystal Palace had somehow won 6-0 meaning that, improbably, kissing their sister would save them from relegation. They incested, but in the, um, afterglow switched off and were Tartt extra passed into oblivion. I want to know the story of the team that Palace beat 6-0. I want to know the story of the team that couldn't win their last game to leapfrog the Greyhounds into 2nd. Also, AFC Richmond: last day bottle jobs in consecutive years! Coach Lasso not so clutch, after all. Bailed out by the football scriptwriter this year, sunk by his quill of irony last. And that's why sports are amazing. This kind of nonsense happens every year, everywhere, to a lot of people, for real. It's why we love it.

[@alexreverman4585]

It's funny that you mention that Nate had access to a therapist this whole season and it's true, but let's not forget that Ted didn't want to go either until his panic attack almost forced him to do it.

[@sheilaomalley4055]

I think the Nate thing is interesting because it shows how bullied people can very easily become bullies when they get just a tiny bit of power. The series did not shy away from that - It is definitely "annoying" since Nate was such a drip the whole season, but I was excited by the exploration of this type of personality and behavior . really unexpected stuff for a show which is known for being "feel good"

[@dcanngieter]

Definitely news worthy

[@ianp1986]

That speech by Nate is so good but then the seriousness is ruined for me when he leaves. I mean, how can you slam a door open?! 😂

[@cplcarlman]

My mom used to work in the payments department in a clinic. Her job was to collect money from patients for medical care rendered. I went and visited her at work one time and saw a hole in the wall. They named that hole after my Mom because a customer got so mad at her one time that they ripped the door open and the doorknob made a hole in the wall.

[@AmazingChi]

Yes, Nate is projecting, but there is a grain of truth in his criticism of Ted and it's something that isn't obvious on first watch. Ted and Nate don't share a single scene alone in S2, the last time they did was when Nate gave Ted the picture in the first place.

[@UnleashthePhury]

Speaking of the conjoined triangles of success… you ladies would love Silicon Valley.

[@1pknail]

The photo Nate’s talking about is not in the office because Ted has it at home, with the photos of his family. Of course, there’s no way for Nate to know that and Ted would never point it out. But it’s just another level of unfairness.

[@IamMighty2814]

His villain origin story is the same as Anakin Skywalker they gave him a chance and he eventually changed and succumbed to the dark side. Big facts.

[@mattp6089]

Nate's not Edwin Akufu's kind of employee though...

[@douglas2938]

Nate's arc is the point where a lot of people show they're missing the point of the show. *You should be mad at Nate,* but you also should be open-minded and investigate what makes him tick. We did this already with Rebecca and Jamie... Maybe the writting could have included more handholding, but then it wouldn't be the same witty, subtle story.

[@jasonhines5572]

First let me say I love your reactions. And I felt the same way about Nate when I first watched season 2. But having watched the show over a few times now, you can actually notice that Ted stops paying attention to Nate over the course of the season. I don't think it fully redeems Nate, but you do get to understand his perspective a little bit if you go back and watch the episodes and see how Ted just kind of ignores him as he gets caught up in his own problems.

[@TheSyncos]

Nah, you guys are right. Nate is a POS this season. But the heel turn moment was bringing Roy back. That was the domino that made him feel like he had no attention. Then we see him go off and revel in social media attention or whatever from his Wonder Kid thing, but if he was paying attention in season 1, wins and losses are not what defines success to Ted. He was barking up the wrong tree looking for Ted's attention from wins and losses.

[@anthonykabatay421]

BANGS

[@robling1937]

20:10 "When (did he abandon Nate)?" If you rewatch the season, they haven't talked 1 on 1 for a long time this season. Im not making excuses. Trust me, i hate Nate. But i hate nate because i see a lot of myself in him (and even share a name with him), but i think with everything going on every episode, people dont track 1 on 1 interactions.

[@berserkrhadley]

S'funny how I despised Trent, during the first two episodes. Then, his article on Ted completely turned me around. And hearing him say "Trent Crimm. Independant" in this episode had me bawling my eyes out.

[@terenzo50]

You'll love Europe.

[@DGTHO]

They're gonna be even more mad when they win them over.

[@vince8337]

I understand the hate for Nate, he was obviously written this season for you to hate him. But my experience watching this was feeling empathy because I've felt what he was going through. When you have self-esteem issues and somebody starts propping you up, you latch onto that person and become dependent on them. When they stop doing that or start doing it less (Ted going through his own issues), or someone comes along and starts getting their attention (Roy joining the staff), the self-hate comes back and you build this narrative in your mind that that person no longer likes you. Yes, he should've gone to see Dr. Sharon but to bring yourself to therapy you need to admit you have issues. Nate isn't there yet.

[@elliotadams3402]

Its interesting that Nate is kinda doing a bad impression of Roy atm.

[@LudvikM]

There is no EFFING way Nate comes back from this!!!!! Oh, hello, season 3. What, is there something that you want to say? I don't see how that could change ANYTHING at all, but OK, what is it?

[@darthcarnage12]

"Get out of here Nate...go have your personal growth away from here." Well, if you insist.

[@fmg1251]

You should be up to shrinking with Jason seagle and the actor that gives life to roy kent. They both write the series and it’s also heartwarming i became to love it more than ted lasso.

[@williammccormick984]

Keely and Rebecca are everything.

[@frozenharold]

You're actually going to berate Nate for accepting the job as the head coach of one of the top teams in the premier league, with most likely at least a 10X increase in his current salary so he can stay the 2nd assistant coach for a team that was relegated last season and barely made it back to the premier league?

[@itsareactionchannel]

THANKS! guys. You both inspired me to create my won reactor channel.

[@jeru02]

Please watch Detroiters for more Sam!!

[@jaketepsa6523]

Nate is gonna ruin the team morale and when westham loses against richmond he is gonna get fired because he was only hired to hurt rebecca and ted

[@carlosrvra]

I don’t think the writing supported Nate’s heal turn. My only pet-peeve of the series.

[@scottburch3178]

Did I miss the scene where ted finds out his ex is seeing their therapist? Apparently it was episode 11. I've been waiting to see what the girls thought about that. What the heck?

[@Andorski]

Doesn't Ted find out in S03E01 that she's dating someone else? IIRC he calls his son and his kid reveals that he got a gift from "uncle Jake."

[@TallyDrake]

Please consider deleting your spoiler.

[@Andorski]

@TallyDrake They finished the series 4 weeks ago.

[@yago8672]

man nates of the world, be chill.... some people are they own downfall

[@blinkt3um3]

Nate... boo.... the actor playing Nate? Fantastic actor. That said, even after the series ended, my feelings towards the Nate storyline and arc was not satisfied.

[@habadasheryjones]

Im not gonna lie. The tv show to movie ratio has definitely become very skewed on this channel lately. Not a fan of that.

[@KublaVeruca]

The only issue I had with Ted Lasso is the direction that took Nate in the second season. It just seems a little too unrealistic. Like an excuse to create drama for the latest plotlline. Which is disappointing, considering the sharp wit and creative writing in the majority of the show. And they do show hints that something is happening. The spitting, the angry outbursts, the hair change. But there doesn't seem to be a good reason. I know he has father issues, and I guess jealousy issues for Ted... It all just seems a little extreme. It seems like they just needed a new bad guy and the Nate character got picked. So they short tracked him to the evil side... anyways....just my worthless two cents....

[@jtorch1]

You both have my sympathy for being born too late to enjoy the time when normal working people could just jet off to europe for a couple of weeks...

[@manichispanic5234]

Dictators get propped up, people loved Hitler! LOL.. all kidding aside, if you're damaged and have no self-esteem and suddenly you have a little bit of power, you might let that get to your head. So yeah, you can get propped up and have that be the beginning of your villain ark LOL

[@YurikRoss]

Never liked how they wrote Nate character and his whole story arc. The show is very good but it was always a big flaw in it.

[@fayesouthall6604]

It’s another father son problem!

[@colinkaak9874]

That African billionaire is giving me Elon Musk vibes.

[@SilentBob731]

💯

[@WezMan444]

To be honest all billionaires are the same. Having that much wealth and power does things to a person.

[@OneEarthNationV]

Die Jesus?

[@Billygrundmeyer]

It always sounds like diet Jesus to me.

[@OneEarthNationV]

@Billygrundmeyer haha 😂

[@matiaspincheira7571]

I always hear that

[@thewardenduncan]

Lol, yeah they always have a little more of a "z" sound on that first "s" for some reason, once I first noticed it I started hearing "jesus" every time they say it.

[@OneEarthNationV]

@thewardenduncan it's a strange word

[@lvfd6117]

Nah no shade this time, yall are right on the same page as most of the rest of us hating nate at the end of this season.

[@cartoonjeff]

Thank you for also being confused by the Nate plot line. I hated it.

[@TheCheekyhalfling]

They did nates character dirty, i didnt enjoy season 3 either, too many rubbish character arcs. Was like it was written by different people.

[@fayesouthall6604]

It’s another father son thing. Like Jamie and his dad,

[@cultureyeah3390]

The Nate arc is some of the worst writing in sitcom history

[@spankyhi]

so i know it's easy to hate nate but i think the show just didn't shove it in our faces with what he was dealing with. also unlike rebecca who had keely to lean on and be called out by, nate didn't have that. ofc it doesn't make it right for what nate was doing this season, but there are a bunch of times that triggered his actions. this show is about forgiveness and 2nd chances. so pls keep an open mind and heart for nate. if ted can forgive nate we should be open to it to