Is the US Headed Towards Another Civil War? | Barbara F. Walter | TED

Based on her work for a CIA task force aimed at predicting civil wars, political scientist Barbara F. Walter examines the rise in extremism and threats to democracies around the globe -- and paints an unsettling picture of the increasing likelihood of a second civil war in the United States.
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[@JohnSmith-ti2kp]

"The C.I.A. is legally not allowed to monitor the United States or it's citizens". When has this ever slowed them down or stopped them in the past? And also who would know?

[@DaDARKPass]

The CIA has no reason to waste resources on an effort it's not meant to even participate in. The US has agencies for domestic intelligence, we all know about them, and it would certainly be stupid for the CIA to try to take part in some conspiracy to replace the FBI or NSA, instead of just... cooperating with those agencies whenever something leads to a domestic problem.

[@kallyfest]

Julian Assange proved wrong and the US has wanted to put him in jail for this for 10 years

[@fajita2]

If you think for one second that the C.I.A. does not monitor citizens within the U.S., then you are indeed lost.

[@DaDARKPass]

@@fajita2 Why in this world would the CIA monitor US citizens?

[@sassoscrib]

The FBI fills that role.

[@The8224sm]

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy

[@Lawmandan81]

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

[@jarrodschaller5963]

...what a quote. One of my favorites

[@HazelHelper]

Could you explain the context of that quote in this discussion? Thanks.

[@The8224sm]

Can you be more specific about your question?@@HazelHelper

[@warkosy]

@@HazelHelper Are you another CIA plant, dude?

[@jaredmuralt9074]

What about preventing lobbyists from corrupting politics? What about prohibiting politicians from funneling untold amounts of taxpayers' money and debt to the pharmaceutical and military lobbies? And the other one talks about regulating social media. How about freedom of the press first? Assange is just the tip of the iceberg.

[@TabIsrael]

Great questions! Good points!

[@CG-gb1kj]

When has the CIA ever followed rules and legal restrictions?

[@scrubcxty7155]

CIA * yes Barbra you can make a Ted talk if you really want 😂

[@Melrose51653]

Everyday. Conspiracy baby.

[@thomassenbart]

All the time.

[@lissaglasgow5492]

We’re literally living in a cold Civil War

[@HateBear-real]

Yup, Clown World is old news.

[@KM-oy5yh]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@thalesnemo2841]

Hear,Hear

[@ranndino]

Yeah, mostly on the internet. Which is how we should keep it.

[@aaron4387]

America is deep in cold civil war. Two side that have a very different view of the future. One side led by a criminal dictator.

[@youtubesucks4274]

The crowd was silent and let her speak even when she touched on current political divisions. Disciplined people are a breathe of fresh air.

[@akaziaj]

Rare as finding a needle in a haystack these days.

[@rexwave4624]

They’re mostly Canadians. It’s in Vancouver.

[@phunchurchgirl]

They were as scared as the rest of us

[@nghtwtchmn129]

One of the best interviews on KZbin is "Jared Taylor Talks With Tree of Logic about Race Debates, White Victimhood, and More." Although I doubt that Tree was converted to white nationalism, the entire conversation is is surprisingly cordial.

[@pelicanhill3251]

They were Canadians. They are alarmed by the de-evolution of their neighbors to the south but they aren't surprised.

[@strifelife4003]

She missed the economic aspects that are playing a role, the mass economic transfer that happened during covid has been staggering making a huge economic divide here in the us

[@richardalvarado-ik9br]

It already happened before covid. it was called ronald reagan and the bushes. meanwhile china occupied our colleges and universities becauses somebody else had to fill the void left bye the GOP

[@tonygrowley5275]

You didn't know the US has always been owned by a few rich people.

[@JD-hx7yd]

​@tonygrowley5275 it's gotten progressively worse since the 60's.

[@SerV689]

@@tonygrowley5275you say that like the majority of countries aren’t owned by literally the same people lol

[@tonygrowley5275]

@@SerV689 What are their names?

[@bonham728]

You can do all the studies you want. When it happens it will in a way that no one could have predicted.

[@scrubcxty7155]

this is already aging horribly lol

[@itimonium9062]

​@@scrubcxty7155 in what point specifically?

[@highwatercircutrider]

@@itimonium9062Have you considered the ‘Trump’ verdict? And the ‘hopping mad’ supporters of Trump! America is a powder keg waiting to be touched off!

[@MartyCart]

Trump will make sure of it.

[@ranndino]

@@highwatercircutriderEveryone thought the same when he lost the election and all we got was a bit of a fart on January 6.

[@petespete4118]

Problem is, some people are gonna hear this and think we need to fund a way to crush warmongers before they begin when in fact we should be looking at alleviating the conditions that cause resent.

[@orangemanonsteroids8569]

That’s not her agenda.

[@petespete4118]

Of course it's not. That's just the message some listeners would take.

[@mimosveta]

you should be minding your own business. she talks about these wars as if they just happened and she observed them, but she actually plotted them. there's not a single person oin the world today that has ever been helped by americana7i meddling. just leave us all alone, and if you want civil war, do one on your self.

[@darwinspirithawkwhitt4847]

America is at that point because of the democrats corruption and it’s no conspiracy theory because other world leaders see it more than half of America see it

[@smoldogbigbobs]

@@mimosveta That is the most ridiculous takeaway from her speech

[@K1pp3rs]

As a non American, hearing the list of civil war she listed out, and seeing how America had their hand in many of those “civil wars”.. just wow.

[@EMan-cu5zo]

America loves to start wars. It’s the way the politicians sell the weapons for wars and then they get paid by working for the corporations or do talks for them and get paid a ridiculous amount of money for those talks.

[@MetaphoricalMountaineering]

If there is an American civil war... Who do you think will be behind it?

[@mimosveta]

indeed. she made my country a prime example. they had so many of us killed, for NOTHING, and here she's bragging about it. "oh we observed" no, they created it

[@jamesmoore4023]

Colombia: The U.S. has provided assistance to Colombia in its efforts to combat drug trafficking and insurgent groups like the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). While this involves internal conflicts, it might not be considered a direct involvement in a civil war. Northern Ireland: The U.S. played a role in diplomatic efforts to address the conflict between Protestant and Catholic communities in Northern Ireland, but it was not directly involved in the civil unrest there. El Salvador: The U.S. was involved in providing military and financial support to the Salvadoran government during the Salvadoran Civil War (1980-1992), which was marked by conflicts between the government and leftist guerrilla groups. Syria: The U.S. has been involved in the Syrian conflict, primarily in the context of the fight against ISIS and providing support to opposition groups. The conflict involves various internal and external actors, including the Syrian government and rebel groups. Myanmar: The U.S. has expressed concerns about human rights abuses and violence against ethnic minorities in Myanmar (formerly Burma), but direct involvement in a civil war is not a predominant feature of its role there. West Bank: The Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves the West Bank, but the U.S. has played a more diplomatic role in trying to facilitate peace talks between the parties rather than direct involvement in a civil war. In these cases, the U.S. has had varying degrees of influence or involvement in conflicts or unrest, but the level and nature of involvement can differ widely from one situation to another.

[@thomassenbart]

This woman is cherry picking data and is flat out incorrect in many of her statements and assumptions. Iraq was about Jihadism, Iran and the millennia old Sunni Shia division. The US did not cause these but it did end a brutal dictatorship and crush ISIS and AQI. Yugoslavia also had nothing to do with the US, it began when Tito died and due to Serbian dominance and refusal to give up power. These wars were only ended by American Intervention, that the Europeans could not deal with alone. This is why those wars continued so long, due to a lack of US leadership. So, the view you are expressing is inappropriate as well.

[@mrclarkson3812]

Which party uses the DOJ as a club??

[@harrybond1485]

The Republicans under trump certainly did.

[@mrclarkson3812]

@@harrybond1485 examples?:)

[@mrclarkson3812]

@@harrybond1485 =This channel doesn't have any content=bot.

[@mrclarkson3812]

@chetsenior7253 =This channel doesn't have any content=bot. This is a conversation for humans not you!

[@HateBear-real]

The Uniparty is effectively One Party.

[@oscarbenigsen4538]

We never learn. If you allow algorithms to broadcast one view, while denying equal broadcasting of that view's opposition, the view that is denied will surely believe that the system is unfair and seek to destroy it. That is happening today - and it is hastening what this woman fears.

[@walowaiyesh]

My favorite part was at minute 2:36 "The second factor was whether citizens in these anocracies had formed political parties around identity rather than ideology."

[@bikebudha01]

She 100% nailed that part...

[@jonnibegood1]

Yes, that was the clincher...! 😢

[@preimer22]

Yes.

[@9y2bgy]

@guitarszen Can you be more specific?

[@darrennew8211]

Yes. That's the point at which arguments from one group or another stop having any effect regardless of how rational or beneficial the discussion could otherwise be.

[@troma54]

But who decides what gets amplified on social media? The tech companies? The government? There has never been a time when censorship protected the good guys.

[@willnelson3362]

She just ever-so-casually tosses that out there, doesn't she? It's not "censoring", it's "preventing amplification". "What we need is for the right people to control what ideas get spread!" OK, lady...

[@redhawk7002]

OK, if you insist I will volunteer. I really don't trust anyone else to do it.

[@seanLeprechaun]

People keep talking about censorship but in my 50+ years of being alive, I’ve never experienced a society where more people’s (sometimes dangerous and hate-filled) opinions have been given a voice. If these voices are being censored, it’s not working.

[@curiousthinker8040]

There is a harmonic balance that needs to be struck within our society. Not everyone in the society has to agree with what that balance should be, but there should be a large enough portion of the intellectual elite that do. While being "intellectual" gets a bad rap in this society now, this wasn't always so. There are certain parts of society that are just better able to see the bigger picture than other people are. This isn't a knock on those who can't, as they have their own part to play within society. However, what they enter into the common discourse does indeed have less innate value on average. Extremism on both sides of the isle needs to be addressed, as it can often be very destabilizing. Intellectual discourse needs to be encouraged and promoted vs hate mongering. Posts and videos that are simply just spewing lies need to be tagged as such. There are many things that we can do without outright sensoring everyone, but those who want to destroy society instead of bringing it up need to be pointed out as such.

[@willnelson3362]

@@curiousthinker8040 Look at the experiences of Girordano Bruno and Galileo. Who was the "intellectual elite" at that time, who saw further and more clearly? Doesn't it trouble you in the least that many of the "intellectual elite" during the Renaissance -- the ones who were absolutely certain they knew what was true, best for society, God, and all humanity, and who were genuinely striving for good and had the very noblest of intentions -- persecuted Galileo and Bruno? I am amazed people forget these lessons. What fools.

[@needmoreramsay]

"Don't CENSOR free speech, just SUPPRESS it !!!" This lady is a GENIUS !! Why haven't we thought of that ?!?

[@HateBear-real]

You summed up why I hate these people very well, anon.

[@Pooters73]

“I’m not saying that we should censor free speech… but if we take away their bullhorn.” Honey, that’s censorship 101. 10:55.

[@SinnerSince1962]

I am lost here.... At around 11:15, she basically says we shouldn't limit free speech and then immediately says we should take away the bullhorn of those who amplify... So their free speech now isn't free anymore. So, who makes this determination about what should be censored, Ms. Walter?

[@johnanderson8253]

Nice point.

[@thomasellis8586]

There is a huge difference between "Free Speech" and hateful, paranoid demagoguery, whether from the right or left. Free speech is the right to express your opinions on policy questions, not to spread paranoid lies about the people you love to hate!

[@SinnerSince1962]

@@thomasellis8586 Who is the arbiter of “love and hate”?

[@nwfreefly]

@@thomasellis8586no there isn’t a difference. You’re conflating acceptable or polite speech with free speech.

[@MsJudi54]

@@thomasellis8586 You stated: "Free speech is the right to express your opinions on policy questions, not to spread paranoid lies about the people you love to hate" Are you proposing anti-gossip & anti-maligning legislation? If that's the case, social media will be shut down, as will most, if not all, news outlets & political commentators will need to find other means of employment. That leaves a one-party rule w. resultant communism led by a dictator or despot, & kept in power by a formidable governmental Dept. of Propaganda. Yes, that has historically worked out for...no one.

[@charlescaldwell4595]

At this point I don't see how it is avoidable. The mutual distrust and disdain each side feels towards the other is getting worse and worse.

[@warthunder9155]

Both sides are coming to the logical end points of their ideologies.

[@charlescaldwell4595]

@@warthunder9155 The hatred has grown since my post a month ago. If they try and put Trump in jail, that will be the start of it all. We as a people can not allow one political party to jail it's opposition.

[@ralphholiman7401]

I keep asking people who don't think a civil war is coming, "Okay. Give me your theoretical happy ending to all of this." None of them can.

[@Jlfalco78]

Hatred both sides have is actual hate. I am 33 if you would have told me 10 years ago we would be killing each other publicly for who you voted for I wouldnt have believed it. Take me for instance I try not to hate I have started to go back to Church and I am genuinely trying to change listenrn to me very clearly, I used to be this type of person and I can tell you for sure there is a growing amount who want to see the other side dead and are willing to pull that trigger. Nowadays I just don't talk or sociolize with the left in any capacity. I would like to consider myself in the middle, but at least most of the time I can at least talk to conservatives most of the time.

[@warthunder9155]

@@charlescaldwell4595 it's inevitable. America, no matter how vast, is not big enough for most ideologies.

[@jordanmumaw2310]

well, she definitely missed the mark when she affirmed that business investment in the working class is the solution. corporations co-opting our would-be democratic government ARE the reason why our government is paralyzed and not implementing the word of the people.

[@cgamiga]

.. and why the working class got so hurt; outsourcinig but also automation, driving corporate profits (rather than reinvestment into workforce), .... and same corporations took covid supply chain issues to increase prices and do "shrinkflation" to increase profits by raising prices and shrinking product. They don't care about democracy, they care about short-term profits

[@TeranRealtor]

She didn't "miss the mark". She is a liar. She is part of the Left side of the globalist plan. She IS the CIA's diseminator of misinformation. People on a TED talks level of engagement, choose their words carefully. She uses "democracy", when what we are trying to save is a Democratic Republic.

[@bikebudha01]

@@cgamiga Yeah, but that's her point. Eventually the division in our country will start to hurt profits.

[@hippymoustacherides]

I took it as they effed it up they can fix it. They took our voting power after all. Get money out of politics fast! Defund the politicians!!!

[@dickh1253]

Fascism....the combiation of government and business interests. Do we really want to become a Fascist nation? Not me!

[@mikemcgill4140]

Free and fair elections. Get rid of the machines and mail in voting unless a ballot is requested. Same day voting needs to occur in each precinct and every voter must be able to prove they're a citizen.

[@TheSakufighter]

I agree but there’s little hope. We’re the blind electing fools.

[@pigbearcub]

Counting paper ballots by hand has been proven to be less accurate than electronic counts and takes days to count versus only hours for electronic votes.

[@shondmichael1363]

Put voting on blockchain. Biometric block-chain voting.

[@pigbearcub]

@@shondmichael1363 do you really want the government to be able to track you thru biometrics?

[@ch3nz3n]

@@pigbearcub The past 3 elections have proven that statement to be false. It has taken weeks/months for some states to release official numbers. Not to mention the human malfeasance that we are consistently seeing electioneering in the cases of voting machines. Nobody is buying that whole "electronic voting is safe and fast!" bs anymore. We've seen that it is neither fast nor safe.

[@ThatGuy-xh9kp]

But we’re a constitutional republic, not a democracy

[@CapitalismDeathSpiral]

…. Under God. Not man.

[@thomasellis8586]

@@CapitalismDeathSpiral As I distinctly recall, the First Amendment mandates the total separation of church and state.,

[@CapitalismDeathSpiral]

@@thomasellis8586 no such thing.

[@juancasillas9877]

​@@CapitalismDeathSpiralI'm not American and I know that's a fact. go read your constitution before posting

[@randomdude571]

A constitutional republic is a form of democracy you mouthbreather... that's like if I proclaimed a truck wasn't a vehicle, because it's a truck.

[@klimaxg]

I'm skeptical that businesses can step up and steer countries away from civil war. In the US, they are creating instabilities: agribusiness, petroleum, health insurance, private prisons, pharma...

[@pieterlaubscher863]

You are 100%correct - But she does not view today's hand-in-glove relationship/symbiosis of government and corporate stranglehold as something that is bad.

[@themeangene]

Corporations promoting divisive identity policies has made the situation worse. Disney's brand for example is completely tarnished with about half of the population.

[@rampage241]

You are right. The example she cites of Apartheid South Africa is very different in that it was a small economy relative to the rest of the world and the majority of other countries imposed crippling sanctions on them. In the case of the US, it's GDP 25% of the world GDP, so it's not only is it not possible for the outside world to bring such pressures to bear as was done to South Africa, but there's also no such political will. Furthermore Apartheid South Africa is different in the sense that power hadn't changed hands at all before and was held by a very tiny minority that was vastly outnumbered. They also had numerous examples of mishandled decolonization going very badly for white minorities in other African countries in the preceding decades. In the case of the US, it is the big corporations that are exacerbating the situation. Many of them actively shoving identity politics down our throats, Big Pharma price gouging on medicines, private prisons etc. And worst of all, the Military Industrial Complex robbing the country blind. Take for instance the military aid to Ukraine. Regardless of what you think about whether or not it should be sent, the fact is prior to Feb 2022, the US govt had ~$160 billion just lying around while there are hordes of homeless people all over America and literally human waste flowing through the streets of cities like Los Angeles. Combine that with a porous border with a failing Narco-state and its a powder keg that will explode sooner or later.

[@weevolvetogether]

Aggressive majorities advocating is what works. Protest in the face of persecution.

[@-pallay-]

I think she does. I hear her saying that corporations can choose a better path. If they do, they could actually help to prevent civil war. Lots of winning going on. 🙏🏼 @@pieterlaubscher863

[@austinkelly5441]

She is spot on with the algorithms of social media companies being a large issue that 99% of the population does not understand.

[@smugandsmarmy]

I’m convinced that 99% of Silicon Valley doesn’t fully under how those algorithms work.

[@austinkelly5441]

Haha I'd bet on that as well@@smugandsmarmy

[@jdub1139]

@@smugandsmarmy “If we take away their bullhorn, their influence will decline.” Yes, she’s a Trump hater.

[@MeatMachine69]

So she's saying limit speech, that sounds maybe not cool

[@radagastbrown9001]

​@@jdub1139Tough luck 😂

[@SchmuelGoldstein-mj8rk]

Put this lady on the list

[@joshuafarden6069]

"How to Make Things Worse: A Bourgois Strategy Toward Total Social Upheaval" by Barbara F. Walter

[@bobdine4626]

Dont trust someone who was on a CIA task force monitoring the world for civil wars probabilities because they usually start them😂 she is a civilian 😎Yeah right

[@codykuch5293]

there’s a difference between trusting someone and considering what their argument is. What exactly do you think she’s wrong on?

[@dreamworknow]

😂

[@bullmoosevelt4495]

@@codykuch5293Well, she basically scapegoated every example to blame other groups for what happened. That should have been obvious when she blamed the Sunnis in Iraq, instead of the US for literally invading the country and toppling the government.

[@klausschreyer7062]

CIA Communist International Association FBI. Fascist Bought Insurrectionists

[@Shadow__133]

She was part of the"political instability task force"... that should tell you all 😂

[@4DCResinSmoker]

One thing I've learned is that there are those that always profit from chaos. Even the US government isn't immune to using fear to help drive policy and motivate the behavior of its citizens. After all, to the political elite and 1 percenters, we're just expendable fodder. Who only exist to service their aspirations.

[@bobbun9630]

Your point is why I think the idea that "business will fix it" is absurd. Fear mongering press outlets who will say anything to generate clicks are... businesses! If the bottom line on the next quarterly report would look better with the country torn apart, we should expect benefiting businesses to work to tear it apart.

[@sandponics]

Traditional journalists and media owners are the ones who profit the most from chaos.

[@AliceStambaugh]

@@sandponics Not responsible journalists, and there are many. Wanna-be authoritarians/fascists profit from the apathy and ignorance and vulnerabilities of the "masses" and through the 'playbook' of fear-based propaganda and outright lies, encourage the propagation of that propaganda through unrestricted social media.

[@waltonpate2524]

You are so right, i said all along that the only reason the governments keep us people around is to steal our hard earned money, they call taxes, so they keep spending much more than they bring in, good job.

[@evanlevy851]

What do you think this video was intended to do? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@gortnewton4765]

Her comments have a leftist bias, a strong leftist bias.

[@scottd2063]

Welcome to TED

[@multiyapples]

There seems to be no signs of intelligence in the comments I’m responding to here.

[@CharlesGervasi]

The horseshoe theory is right. I can't tell if it's a leftwing or rightwing bias. It's a bias toward giving more power to the government for the purpose of solving social problems.

[@richardalvarado-ik9br]

@@multiyapples Mine is..........

[@harrybond1485]

So?

[@williamd9393]

Some people just live in a dream world.

[@Chad_Fairview]

She's literally saying to censor social media. Also America does not have political parties based off of ethnicity like in Syria.

[@Golobtin]

She talked about changes in demography as the possible fuel for "civil war", omitting a very important factor which is globalization which all but decimated the middle class, leaving millions of people behind, bitter, despondent and disillusioned.

[@user-gy3vp3tm3s]

But to include globalization as a negative, inciting factor would not have fit her narrative, or that of her audience.

[@darealfabio4]

She did include globalization, she spoke of the trade agreements and how it hurt the working class

[@taylorw.8509]

Many Americans who aren't minorities are just now realizing they are getting their money and livelihood stolen from them. Unfortunately they don't know who caused it and others don't care as long as they can use their guns.

[@warnerbasement1628]

aka neoliberalism. Hegemonically done in concert with neoconservatism. Proto fascists the lot of them.

[@tommydingo1h547]

But you got democrats and republicans fighting over change one wants to keep guns laws, one is against the idea of keeping gun laws and you know that could also lead to another civil war because of their rivalry

[@brilliantmindsproductionac6428]

She is saying the civil war train is coming

[@growing367]

They not even hiding it

[@JoeO.]

First off, I’d like to ironically thank the algorithm for sending me this. Secondly, I hope more sane and sober people are paying attention to things than it really appears as trials and elections quickly approach…

[@roguegryphonica3147]

She probably should have looked at South Africa today before using it as an example of integration and success.

[@qingzhou9983]

You are assuming if South Africa kept Apartheid then it would be better today. You are rebutting her theory, which is used by CIA and validated for decades around world, without any evidence. Or you are saying Civil War in South Africa is still Better than Today's South Africa. You better think clearly what you meant before you Post your opinion. Or criticism of today's South Africa without solution is USELESS.

[@martifingers]

I get your point but in fact I don't think she was holding SA up as a perfectly just society. Indeed Northern Ireland is not fully functioning either as a true democracy at all currently. Rather the idea is that extended inter-community violence has been avoided by and large. Arguably that is a preferable outcome.

[@thomassenbart]

Exactly, the worldview she represented helped destroy the most advanced nation in Africa and has only impoverished the people since Black rule took over. Violence and corruption are now endemic in S. Africa and this nation is truly headed towards racial civil war.

[@jimherr152]

South Africa, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, the US and Ireland (and others, including countries in Africa) are great examples of how power mongers will exploit differences between peoples to gain power, money and control. Those differences can be as simple as what side of the tracks a group lives, what colors they wear, what language they speak, or what color their skin is to the complexity of their religious and political beliefs. There are leaders and followers/minions who share a basic hatred of people. It’s basically a hatred of people; and their differences, whatever they are, is the excuse. It is the spirit of the antichrist.

[@AlexHop1]

S. Africa, like many other countries, has terrible problems. But it avoided Civil War at a time that it was widely expected-I vividly recall this period. Civil War is a whole different level of problems from those S. Africa has today.

[@praetorian1877]

When a Constitutional Republic is transformed into a Multi-Cultural Democracy, there is nothing more inevitable then to break apart! Ancient Rome had many civil wars during their thousand year existence.

[@themeangene]

I don't want to live in a multi cultural democracy. My community never agreed to this.

[@praetorian1877]

@@themeangene Exactly right!

[@elliottpeabody1287]

@@themeangene You have Obama & Biden to thank.

[@bogo_wanderlust3692]

@@themeangene I WANT PEACE

[@bogo_wanderlust3692]

The US is bot destined to rule forever. It’s natural and it’s time for the world to have a multipolar power structure, the vast majority of the world citizens are tired of American and western dominance

[@johnwayne-rg9uy]

Shes never been down to the working class level where everyone Is struggling to get by. We vote hoping things will get better and they never do.

[@TulsaSooner1979]

That's because you vote for leftists. Vote for free-market politicians and things will get better IF they employ free-market laws.

[@SwCC2749]

@@TulsaSooner1979 Vote for those liberals then, and soon enough you will find yourself laid off because you are not competitive enough in the so-called free-market🤣Then you'll see what struggle this market is bringing to this nation's majority.

[@item6931]

@@TulsaSooner1979 >things will get better IF they employ free-market laws. No. We have free trade agreements with dollar-a-day wage countries. The free market has settled on a business model where paying American workers as little as possible is the best way to adapt. A tl;dr article touching on this is called "Trading Places" by MIT News.

[@brianramirez4953]

If working class people voted for their interests, they would not be supporting rightwing types against their own interests all the time. If they are hoping republicans make things better for them, they first need to get in the habit of reading, having intelligent discussions and listening, things unfortunately not done nearly enough by that demographic. Trump knows his base, that's why he said he looooves the poorly educated.

[@SwCC2749]

The working class vote for the right wing because they want to and actually can get them employed by industry reshoring, but the democrats only want your job taken by cheap immigrant labors. That's why the working class supports people like Trump.

[@DougAnderson-tv1jd]

Since the cia can’t do this domestically, they hired her to do it for them… which is still illegal.

[@calamity1676]

No, its not, she said that she did this privately which means she was not endorsed by the CIA. She merely used data that she came up with.

[@lost_is_all]

i, for one, totally trust the nice CIA lady's claims about the causes of civil war. my favorite part was when she didn't include the CIA as #1 on her list 😎

[@jaremygolightly3279]

Yeah I thought that was pretty cute....

[@josephmayfield945]

because it's regressive nonsense @@jaremygolightly3279

[@serpicopiu3591]

REAL ❗

[@jmwichert8842]

Yeah they (and their friends MI6 and Mossad) never have anything to do with civil wars in other countries. 🙄

[@nobody687]

Chinese propaganda

[@ito2876]

Sounds like she’s advocating exactly for the reasons Americans would fight against.

[@robbythecuban]

Yep. She basically advocates for one half of the country to keep pushing the same garbage that has brought us to the the brink of civil war; and for the OTHER half of the country to just accept it… in order to avoid civil war.

[@JorgeMartinez-ez1jl]

Good point. Does that mean CW is inevitable? Scary.

[@AnimMouse]

@@JorgeMartinez-ez1jl No, civil war is not inevitable, if we stop doing things that she is advocating like censorship and prosecuting political opponents.

[@warthunder9155]

​@@JorgeMartinez-ez1jlI don't see a way around.

[@laurajane192]

​@@warthunder9155 how come you don't see a solution around a civil war in one of the most advanced countries in the world? Honestly, it is really scary that you do not see any other solution, as there are so many.

[@Erica-vd1gb]

We're going break apart into separate countries no doubt it especially when jurisdictions like countries and parts of states want to separate

[@awendawred4514]

Considering the new events going on, this episode needs updating.

[@72seeker72]

Scary stuff for sure, but completely possible. Just look at how divided we are and how toxic our politics has become.

[@stevesutherland5581]

And you have Trump and these republicans to thank for this because they have become a party of dictators.

[@Codeyx18]

Vote green. Cornell West

[@Northman1963]

If you don't vote blue you're giving Trump another chance.

[@47f0]

​​@@Codeyx18- Our voting system is designed for two-party government. Until we change it to something like ranked voting, third-party candidates will only be spoilers, and they are almost always spoilers for the left in this country. Remember president Ralph Nader? No you don't, because he never had any chance of winning, but you did have a chance of keeping Al Gore from being elected instead of George Bush, which is precisely what happened. I understand. - I want to vote with my heart, but I have to vote with my head.

[@Codeyx18]

@@Northman1963 please blue hasn't done anything. they're good at making promises and breaking them. There's no difference in my eyes. We need change. Complete change.

[@user-oe2tb9pu1o]

To Mix up the peoples and races of other nations would lead nothing but Chaos and Trouble- Oswald Mosley

[@PolkRidgeAesthete]

A truth to be readily observed by sane adults every single day in North America and Europe as well.

[@stylus_sheath]

How America was made?

[@user-wo8ui3bz7v]

lol sure, except that civilizations emerged in ethnically diverse places such as Mesopotamia, India and Mediterranean Basin. Also Latin America is the best example of multi ethnic democracy. In Mexico the only 2 issues we have right now are narco violence, due to US addictions, and political corruption, but NEVER ever racism. And Mexico is the 14th largest economy in the world, Brasil is the 8th, and it is also a stable nation when it comes to racial relations.

[@HateBear-real]

@@user-wo8ui3bz7v all jokes of countries proving anon's point

[@joshthorsell635]

We would go to civil war, not because of what people look like, but how people are telling us how we have to live... Most of us that would rise up embrace diversity, not stupidity and being told what we have to do, be, or act... Good luck in all your future endeavors...

[@DennisMoore664]

The whole "It happened before. It will happen again. It's just a question of when." line from the Bruce Willis '98 movie _Armageddon_ applies to this subject as well. Good luck everyone. If history rhymes then in a few years things are going to go crazy world-wide for a couple of decades. Enjoy the roaring 20's while they last.

[@vulpinemachine]

People call me crazy for predicting civil war, but it's probably one of the most reliable things to predict. Believing there WON'T be conflict is the delusional position to hold.

[@user-lt7op4ti6b]

I would say the 1990s were the Roaring 20s because the US has been at war for basically two decades starting in 2001.

[@DennisMoore664]

@@user-lt7op4ti6b Maybe - that's that's the thing with history rhyming. I see the war on Terror as something more akin to the decades long military intervention in Central and South America the US started in 1904 with the Roosevelt Corollary and continued for decades to help US corporations. There's also that idea of an 80-year cycle so that the War on Terror was the WW1 event, the financial crash happened in 2008, and Putin invading Ukraine is the comparative WW2 event in which case the 2030's should be pretty sweet. But with COVID happening just about 100 years after the Spanish Flu pandemic it's easy to keep with the 100-year cycle comparison too. And our booming economy reads to me like what it was historically back during the 1920's. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens in a few years.

[@mism847]

That's not how it works. History does not magically repeat itself like that. There are a lot of different things happening every century, and there is nothing today indicating anything close to civil war, with the US remaining relatively stable now and in the upcoming future. There is no benefit for the government to initiate or encourage any kind of real war within the country. Don't let the fearmongering media get to you.

[@ericwilson6994]

I'm 9, upside down, inside out, and one minute ahead of time d 6 I M M I 6 + 1 minute 'outbreaks' Albuquerque Philadelphia 2035 'We run Montana' British Militia Milley designed conop8888 a British zombie deterrent program. Yes, we'll be in a civil war!

[@seanrc8642]

Very noteworthy that she only included the gender designation “white Men” when identifying the instigators in the US Capitol on Jan 6. When describing other groups inciting civil wars, she identifies an ethnic group with no gender-based subdivision.

[@Ukie88]

Here’s the key point at 5:40

[@Ukie88]

5:40 is the key. Consider the antebellum south as well.

[@Rn-pp9et]

It's the current thing.

[@glennlee6274]

Perhaps she should watch the film of the "police"opening barriers,un locking doors and ushering innocent people in,driven by fbi plants...then murdering a Vetran and jailing people that just wanted answers to the odd things that happened...if she thinks the cia isnt operating inside the country she is nuts...

[@tumtumtumtum]

All the other groups were led by men as well. It’s amazing that this woman singles out her own race as the problem, while attempting to sidestep blame for herself by putting all said blame on the men.

[@Page-Hendryx]

L-O-L listen to HER. One look at the TED logo and I knew what this would be. Good God...

[@Mike-Olds-1]

Sadly it’s become more of a probability than a possibility

[@glovere2]

One of the questions I have had for a while is how much control the donor class has over this movement. The 1% who want the administrative state disabled but do not want a civil war, which would be very bad for business. People tend not to buy things when they are too busy planning attacks on their own government and fellow citizens. The wealthy class got the SCOTUS they wanted, the tax cuts they demanded, and anti-union judges throughout the federal system. They just want to maintain control without the messy effects of mass violence and a ruined economy. They funded this movement. They set up the propaganda machine that radicalized tens of millions of voters. Do they have any power to reign things in or do these things just have a life of their own nobody can control? I'm guessing the latter.

[@volkerengels5298]

In Europe something similar happens. -> Right-wing parties incite people. I think the backing force is climate change - in combination with wealth disparity. Adds up to dynamite. (People have no guns in Europe ;-) Both issues have a weird communication into public. Fears of lost ('Money & Home) increase. We have lost control. We are scared to death speaking that out aloud.

[@oliviao2238]

That first test will be if Trump gets elected, gets rid of the parliamentarians, and possibly limit the DOJ, FBI, and the more minor stuff like getting hate groups to enact violence against certain people.

[@antonymossop3135]

"The law of unintended consequences"...

[@TheMobileHomestead]

The Donor Class dont care if the masses keep buying stuff ...because they dont make their fortunes investing in tangible products ... so they could care less about destroying our democracy and starving the country because they make their money on a global scale ..and if things go crazy here they'll just pack up and move to their mansions in Switzerland

[@ccrider3435]

It all comes down to us letting traitors and fascists continue to breathe.

[@wasntanythingmuch]

The one thing world governments might agree on is that social media are dangerous.

[@DarrylWhiteguitar]

They are dangerous because ideas are dangerous. Governments that think to control their populations are threatened by ideas.

[@HMMELD]

Says the one who's posting via social media

[@timminh468]

@@HMMELD He stated a fact not an opinion

[@CitroenDS23]

And... "The peasants are revolting".

[@Bailark]

Yeah, that's not what she said. Anyone can tell you that freeways are dangerous, and yet they dont advocate for the elimination of freeways. Most would say that freeways should be restricted, controlled, and maintained. Saying that not allowing algorithms to amplify dangerous messages is not saying that social media is dangerous, per se.

[@user-qt3nn3xi7i]

Watching this on the week of the eagle pass standoff hits different.

[@user-tb5ox2oe5o]

How do you eliminate casualties of war?

[@kimhorton6109]

I left social media in 2015 because Facebook was so full of absolute crap being forwarded(shared) around that was irresponsible and irrational. People on social media don’t feel as if they need to be responsible. People on Twitter live getting flamed

[@ralphholiman7401]

I got on Twitter for about three weeks after Elon Musk bought it. It was the most toxic place I've ever seen in my life, and all indications from people I knew, was that Musk actually made it better. I just didn't need it.

[@Cavebabyberserker]

WTF are you talking about ????

[@ralphholiman7401]

Same. Just too toxic and censored for my taste. (Although I do use my wife's account to get on Marketplace, the only redeeming part of Facebook).

[@mosfet9915]

Same here. And, I feel less stress and anxiety too!

[@paosceptic]

She was correct in her short description of the change in South Africa - but did not add that the country has been in a incompetent, corrupt downward spiral ever since

[@xvx4848]

That sounds strangely familiar.

[@MarkoHolic]

indeed but she only talked about stopping civil war not maintaining or impruving countries economics or social welfare

[@nikosgreek352]

They dont dare mention that. Because the implication is clear. As is the implication arising from the crime wave that hit certain cities like Detroit and Chicago as soon as the demographics changed. And this is an implication that is too hard to accept for the educated class, since all of post-ww2 society has been built on a premise that forbids such implications from ever being considered. Its much like the pedophilia scandals in the Catholic Church. During the 20th century more and more people knew but nobody dared to utter the truth. Only after the cultural sanctity of the Church had fallen below a certain point were people finally able to admit the truth openly and start working on the problem. The same thing goes for another sacred cow of modern society.

[@ChickenMcThiccken]

because all they want is to be elected "and live a life of luxury" ; while avoiding the job he was elected to do.

[@jadesingleton4110]

It’s so weird that you think an apartheid regime with slave labor was less corrupt. It’s just bizarre.

[@Erica-vd1gb]

People are more concerned about individual rights not the whole of all people living together

[@theOrkinMan1]

We are ready....

[@leptonsoup337]

I love how one of the take home messages is "business can save us". LOL. Riiiiight. I won´t hold my breathe.

[@bryannorris8049]

Collusion between government and business is one of the current political friction points.

[@aidanmurray7319]

@@bryannorris8049Corruption by the CIA and FBI as-well. Not a single institution can be trusted.

[@themeangene]

Her solution is to literally oppress her opposition even more 😂😂.

[@timothysteiner8330]

Hopefully our government and the justice department contained within can continue to monitor and suppress any wide spread civil violence as it has been able to do so far. It is a difficult job but since the USA is relatively rich and comfortable it will be hard for these groups to grab a foothold with enough power to disrupe our country. Folks just want their 'MTV' !!

[@johncaze757]

But wouldn't these people just be quiet and keep to themselves before something were to happen?

[@philthrelfall5294]

Totally agree, social media cannot be allowed to profit from algorithms that promote outrage!!

[@3asyrider75]

Good luck forcing social media to change their algorithms $$$ is above all and you cannot go against the 1st Amendment of free speech. Other countries can but not the USA

[@scrubcxty7155]

imagine your in a box with 2 million people (that's social media) is everyone supposed to agree? No so there will forever be outrage the algs just help direct you to new opinions

[@catsofsherman1316]

You proposing censorship as the more democratic alternative?

[@philthrelfall5294]

@@catsofsherman1316 You missed the word "profit" in my reply. Currently clicks = traffic = advertising income. If social media companies had to 'open book' their income schemes & algorithm objectives, then a path would be available for some kind of oversight and maybe regulation. Currently it is the 'wild west'!

[@philthrelfall5294]

@@scrubcxty7155 You missed the word "profit" in my reply. Currently clicks = traffic = advertising income. If social media companies had to 'open book' their income schemes & algorithm objectives, then a path would be available for some kind of oversight and maybe regulation. Currently it is the 'wild west'!

[@robertholland3966]

At the 7:40 mark, I'm not sure what climate change has to do with people moving from the global south to the north. I think jobs and opportunities make people move in masses, not the weather.

[@tonyjones1560]

The worst case scenarios for this are such that should they come about, they’ll bring “weather” that will cause people to run. It’s just a matter of how far, how fast and even if they can. But they are *worst case scenarios.*

[@OneTheBlue]

Climate change can potentially make certain areas uninhabitable, thus making migration a necessity for survival. I suggest reading the article on the CFR website: Climate Change Is Fueling Migration. Do Climate Migrants Have Legal Protections?

[@robertholland3966]

@@OneTheBlue I am not a climate change denier but I think the "possibility" of climate change causing migration from one spot to another on earth is unlikely. People live in almost every corner of the earth hot and cold and have been for centuries.

[@OneTheBlue]

@@robertholland3966 It has more to do with agriculture and access to water. It's not really about comfort levels. It's true that people can adapt to almost any climate, but when the change happens rapidly, there is no time for adaptation.

[@TexasGuy]

Well, at least we agree there is a divide and it’s a hard problem. Was shocked to get to the end and find out you think social media recommendation engines are the perpetuator of the massive ideological divide. What you’ve sincerely misread/miscalculated is the size of the population whose choices are inherently tied to traditional family values and how they were raised. Identity politics in the US isn’t tied to race and sexual orientation… but to those who would subscribe to a moral framework based on the 10 commandments and to those who believe they should be unaccountable to a shared morality.

[@deborahrivera6064]

So the only "moral" people in the world are those who share a narrow interpretation of one religion? I think not.

[@TexasGuy]

@@deborahrivera6064 You’ve misread what I meant. “Moral Relativism” is held by a substantial percentage of our population, and those who hold that view are what I was referencing. By that view, individual actions are governed by a “it depends” or “based on how I feel” view rather than a long-held belief of right and wrong. I’m not saying that those who hold to a morality based on the Ten commandments are always moral. Far from it. What I am saying is that they don’t play naive to what’s right and wrong- or dismiss a challenge to their actions.

[@masalli]

Social media algorithms don't care about the truthfulness of the writing. They get excited about writings that evoke the most emotions. The best of all, according to social media algorithms, are the writings that arouse joy in fans and anger in opponents. They are read and shared the most. Ads are shown in between. This is why, for example, the writings of Greta Thunberg and Donald Trump quickly raise up on social media. And when an article appears on social media, the click media will also add it to their lists. Soon it will be seen in the media of the entire country. Main media outlets also asks the opinion of other celebrities about the issue that has come up from social media. Actually, the woke group is a small but loud group. What ever they do, gets incredibly good exposure on social media thanks to these algorithms. If the algorithms were rewritten, things would perhaps settle into their proper proportions. You can't get fame and visibility by trolling anymore.

[@silksnapper4777]

Now we don't even know who's the goose or the gander

[@miniminamanmina3715]

I have hope but see the return of ethics and rule of law as almost impossible with the system and lobbyists that the corporations use to legislate their unfair trade laws and rules through their political puppets .

[@KamasKirian716]

I would agree that America is closer to ACW2 than at any other point in the last 60 years. I would probably disagree with her over the reasons behind it, and those pushing for it. It would also be nice if these talking heads quit referring to “democracy” for the US. We are a republic with democratically elected representatives. Not that our representatives are actually interested in representing us, and our bureaucrats have never met a limit they aren’t comfortable ignoring and happy to abuse us.

[@user-sk7zc1fc5u]

If given a choice, would you rather live in a democracy or a republic? No one I ask this seems to think.

[@themeangene]

​​​@@user-sk7zc1fc5uA republic. Democracies have literally no safe guards. The entire point of the American system is that it's different types of governments mixed together all with different competing interests so that you don't end up jumping off a cliff all at once.

[@resistdespair1977]

The US is a democracy… a representative democracy. There is a difference between representative democracy and direct democracy. A constitutional republic is not a direct democracy, but it is a representative democracy.

[@shawnmurphy282]

White boy has entered the chat

[@jeffforbus4810]

Once you realize you have a problem responsible people find a solution. I live in the Houston TX area and when hurricanes or heavy flooding occurs people unite. Neighbors get the BBQ pits fired up then begin cooking for one another, in some cases their entire neighborhood! People simply pick up a hammer, saw, shovel, and walk into someone’s home, without being asked, and help rip out sheetrock, carpet, trash, and etc. I’ve often said a hurricane is good for society - it drives mankind to unite! No, I am not calling for hurricanes every year, but I would like for people to reflect on how much better they felt after ignoring all the rhetoric and simply getting busy helping one another! It’s a choice and a solution! Focus on one another then this irrational behavior will end.

[@hellotheremyolfriend]

what a naive take. there are deeper things than rosy "humanity". Sure, we gotta help our neighbors, but there are bigger forces at play that divide people inevitably. just make sure you end up on the right side.

[@mikepainter2135]

I wouldn’t trust anyone on a CIA Task Force. So, the CIA said, you’re a private citizen just go do what you want with this sensitive information?

[@steelcrazy409]

I don't think the US has fully recovered from the last one.

[@72seeker72]

Culturally, I will argue that the country has been at Civil War since the counter culture if the 1960s. Since then it has steadily increased and now it's at some strange kind of breaking point. No idea how it all turns out.

[@janetannerevans2320]

except roles have reversed. Those in the 60's who were against "the man" are now for them. The fbi in particular. The uber rich are now the left. The working class has become the right. Big Brother is now the left.

[@selfaccountable3464]

The right will win. We will end every left wing social malaise that has wrought the conflict.

[@ritualentertainment]

The 1960s was the decade that could have saved America, even if one truly believes the counterculture movement to be a damnation upon the country. Personally, I don't. There was an identity crisis there that could have been reshaped to establish diversity at an earlier cultural stage than the status quo. The fact is that it all went downhill from the day JFK was assassinated because that then made Vietnam unavoidable, and thus the collapse imminent.

[@Texas_Cruiser]

​@@ritualentertainmentif everyone popped a few shrooms and took a toke maybe all of us so called adults wouldn't fight so much.

[@thesundreamers8423]

I agree we are in perilous times. If Americans were left to our own devices, we would work it out. But the media and the political class benefit from our division. It keeps them in power. This can't end well in the short term until those who profit from division are removed from power.

[@stevekluesner4430]

I believe that democracies "always" work better with a greater percentage of the populous/citizenry committed to and engaged in the shared effort to make it work ; we still have a lot of that going on but we should be promoting an effort to regard it as much more of a central theme and engage less in divisive diversions that have been and/or are a source of instability. 😁😁🤔

[@thesundreamers8423]

@@stevekluesner4430 I 💯% agree. Well said. I know I am asking the impossible, but I wish we could just let the past be the past, and focus the present and the future. What is sad to me is we are in a position now truly for America to be all it was created to be. But we are so hung up in our flaws of the past, that we fail to see the potential that still lies ahead.

[@scottkoehlinger872]

but it's astounding how many in government so easily and cheaply break their vows to support the constitution without any meaningful action against them..@@stevekluesner4430

[@magnusx99]

​@@stevekluesner4430 Exactly the opposite, as people become more involved with politics they take up positions and take sides, then they start to see people on the other side as wrong and a threat, think how when you were a teenager and politically neutral and got along with all your friends, but as you got older and some went left, some went right and now they don’t like each other. As long as you have a powerful and overbearing govt that impacts your life then more is at stake, the more powerful the govt, the more invested you are to ensure that govt is doing what you want. Societies throughout history have eventually moved from limited govt to total govt and then collapse, Plato, Jefferson and other philosophers often talked about the inevitable outcome of democracy is tyranny.

[@bradleyboyer9979]

Agreed. My only issue with conversations around this is that they make it seem like there isn't one group of people driving this. There is. Politics and media success comes from division. People are no longer elected because of their talent or merit. It's however they can paint the other side as a "monster." The current regime, which has existed for the past 50 years, intentionally uses division to maintain power. We will overcome without them or crumble with them.

[@user-qz1bi4xk2n]

She’s coming from the point of view of those waging lawfare against political opponents and actively trying to censor the working class

[@StevenGraber-ox5mv]

Don't agree totally with her premise, but have been saying that we are headed for civil war for the last 30 years. I think that it will be ideology not demographics. It is going to be country versus city, and was quite frankly, the country really has all the power. Resources, weaponry and ability.

[@rampage241]

I 100% agree that social media algorithms should be regulated. I think they should be forced to open source those algorithms so that they can be scrutinized in a publicly verifiable way to make sure that they are not biased towards amplifying the most negative posts. Also kudos to her for saying that there should be no censorship. But I'm concerned with her talking about suppressing so called "conspiracy theories." Who decides if something is a conspiracy theory or not? Many of them have been proven to be true after much smearing. All voices should be allowed, but Big Tech shouldn't be allowed to bias certain kinds of posts over others.

[@Peace-fd3tg]

This is no TED talk. It's called Propaganda!

[@jblawrence1840]

Exactly.

[@user-br1xg7ph3u]

Algorithms should be politicaly neutral and transparent. One man's "hate speech" could easily be another man's free speech, no one should have a right to decide what can be heard or said

[@DomenicRipper]

I agree she seems super biased. Whatever gets her video more views.

[@AlexArthur94]

Transparent social media algorithms would be valuable. I also agree they need to be agnostic; not promoting or demoting particular kinds of content for any political point of view. But if they start demoting content that is deemed misinformation (according to whom?), which of course they already do, we're in trouble. Of course, there is willful misinformation out there, but the only right way to deal with that is to provide more accurate and thorough information. We need to allow debate instead, because silencing certain points of view is a path to authoritarianism.

[@breakthrough8628]

Who else thinks the CIA absolutely monitors the United States citizens illegally?

[@90000cg]

Duh

[@johnanderson8253]

It is more theoretical than actually law that the CIA breaks.

[@davincidreams832]

its very interesting to see an informed speaker analyze the divide in usa. And give reasons for the chaos

[@timcreations8059]

Edible Plant List (Not including most crops): This list is very incomplete but these are the species I know about. I strongly encourage you to look into and learn about these plants. Also grow your own crops (those plants are not on this list since most of them are common knowledge) and herbs (mint, parsley, etc.). Check your climate zone, USDA hardiness zone, annual precipitation and temperature before planting anything or attempting to forage for wild edibles. Temperate Bee Balm Bugleweed Cattail Chives Clover (both white and red) Coneflower (echinaceae) Dandelion Daylily Evening-Primrose Greenbrier (young leaves and stems) Hibiscus Hosta Plantain (weed) Rose (fruit/hips) Sunflower Tulip Wild Grapes (careful not to confuse with moonseed) Wild Rice Wood Sorrel (in small amounts; large amounts can be toxic) Desert Agave (sap) Pinyon Pine (seeds and inner bark) Prickly Pear (pads after removing spines, fruit) Polar and Sub-Polar Arctic Raspberry Cloudberry Cranberry

[@grammaticalchainsaw7318]

Hyperbolic

[@timcreations8059]

@@grammaticalchainsaw7318 How? It's an edible plant list...

[@sa-ej4sq]

"We know that the people intent on violence have a playbook", comes from the lady whos organization have started coups around the world..🤞

[@waysaund]

It's hard to take her seriously when she's contracted by the C.I.A. Yes, that fair minded neutral bunch out for the good of humanity who just happen to help create the conditions for civil war all over the globe over and over. She also said the Sunnis started the civil war in Iraq as if the US invasion hadn't happened. What a joke.

[@billhart9832]

As an American who's lived abroad for all of the 21st century and with people from a number of these war-torn areas this is the most important 13 minutes my countrymen need to see and listen to. Thank you for the difficulties you have endured to learn of the root causes and the courage to make this presentation WITH solutions to make a path toward a playbook for peace.

[@nastewart126]

Thank you, you are right. She provided solutions. The social media part I should have figured out but, I knew the corporations part cause they own the politicians.

[@jds6206]

Bill, come on man.....those Americans who REALLY need to hear this, NEVER WILL. Even you know it....

[@ericwilson6994]

I'm 9, upside down, inside out, and one minute ahead of time d 6 I M M I 6 + 1 minute 'outbreaks' Albuquerque Philadelphia 2035 'We run Montana' British Militia Milley designed conop8888 a British zombie deterrent program. Yes, we'll be in a civil war!

[@richardbrout2242]

Really? the solution is socialism and to take away the "bullhorn" of "enemies of democracies".. Hitler much?

[@stevekluesner4430]

@@ericwilson6994 Still hoping your wrong

[@TheAllen30076]

Anyone else feel like they are being gas lit watching this?

[@Jonno2020]

It's CIA and Democrat propaganda.

[@drsev61]

Nope.

[@scicutella]

If we're going to commit to this then we're going to have to accept the fact that our old lives will be gone forever. Things will never be the same for us.

[@gazesalso645]

That was quite a plot twist. Business can save us. I suppose they have the power. But it's not their mandate. When businesses are confronted with ethical choices and profit it'll be profit first. Businesses do not coalesce around social issues unless it's in their interest.

[@linguaphile42]

That's what she's saying -- it's definitely in their interest to operate in a non-war situation.

[@gazesalso645]

​@@linguaphile42 You're right. But she glosses over important detail. How does that mechanism work because as obvious as it sounds, the history of the world is not one where businesses just do what it is good or even in their interests. Take climate change. I think I've made my point. The line "businessess don't coalesce around social issues" was the response I got from my political science house mate when I asked him how come businesses did nothing as Zimbabwe collapsed. The mechanism which played out in South Africa was due to political and social pressure which affected the profits of foreign banks. In other words, they were concerned about profits (in the US) but this was due to the threat of their US clients punishing them not because of the crime against humanity playing out in South Africa. Meanwhile, mining companies were perfectly happy to stay and even today they operate in problematic states extracting resources in cohoots with kleptocratic governments. During apartheid South Africa, several companies left selling their assets to those willing to take the risk while many remained. Businesses don't evaporate. Take IBM. They left, but instead operated through its subsidiary ICL. Many large multinationals remained such as cocacola, car manufacturers etc.

[@linguaphile42]

@@gazesalso645 I'm sure she's not saving that in every instance business leaders saved the day, but just pointing out that in the largest economy in the world, which has very little in common with Zimbabwe, business would have a marked interest in avoiding civil war, and could have a huge impact. Otherwise, we are SOL.

[@gazesalso645]

@@linguaphile42 well, did she not mention South Africa and Zimbabwe? Yes she did. Of course it's not every instance, but maybe just name one...

[@lancewalker2595]

If what is moral and what is in the best material interest of a corporation are misaligned, and indeed as you seem to be suggesting, mutually at fundamentally odds then in means necessarily that what is moral cannot be derived by nature from which profit is, and could only be, understood to derive. I'm not a believer in God in the way you must be, but regardless of whatever religion you believe in, your teleology of a morality separate from nature is inconsistent with reason.

[@adaum4534]

“So here I was sitting in a conference room in suburban Virginia four times a year planning US backed coups around the globe in a room full of CIA agents when I suddenly wondered why we won’t don’t talk about civil war here in the US”

[@abesapien9930]

Lmao

[@StephenHarristnt]

I was wondering if I was the only one who recognised that (salient) point, smh. In my country there is a most apt saying - "Do so does not like so" i.e. those who do things to others don't like when it happens to them.

[@user-eq2hj6uy7p]

If this lady doesn't stop talking to me like I have to understanding of a middle schooler I'm going to join the other side out of spite.

[@SetFreeByTheTruth2024]

It’s going to be an interesting few months…

[@edmontgomery5999]

She has that exciting Liz Cheney vibe.

[@joesimpleton7227]

“The algorithm should not propagate things that are Bad.” So who exactly decides what’s “bad..?”

[@WeekendsOutsideFL]

The algorthm doesn’t make or provide the content. The algorithm pushes the content. So the only true neutrality is by providing content based on search relevance only, rather than a snowballing pushing of content based on history etc

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

liberal social media is a cancer. amen for Twitters fight for free speech

[@leomarkaable1]

She does, obviously.

[@brysonpresley2658]

God

[@tomschuelke7955]

You look a video you are interested in and the algorithm gives you an ocean of the same. This stops you from seeing different stories and opinions and together with your neighborhood drives you into a boubble

[@lukeanddaleigh]

I'm reading her book "How Civil Wars Start (and How to Stop Them)" right now! Very interesting read so far, so when I saw her name pop up on here I, of course, had to click on the video.

[@cheengsing2300]

Wasn’t it literally never proven that the 2016 election was meddled by the Russians? Plus I love how she acknowledges that the great replacement theory is actually real and not a fake conspiracy 😂

[@MrTamendez]

We couldn’t even agree on facemasks

[@noelpucarua2843]

As the saying goes, "If we want things to stay the same there are going to have be changes around here".

[@manuelbarrios715]

In the U.S., Civil war is completely optional. We can avoid it by simply using Article V of the Constitution which invokes for a Convention of States to amend the constitution. COS from article V gives power to the people to have check and balances onto its government when the government has grown too powerful. The Convention of States (COS) is explicit in that 2/3 (two thirds) of the States must agree in having a convention, so 34 States. The COS movement started as a result of the Obama years and during the Obama years. Since then, 19 States have passed legislation through both of their chambers to agree to have a Convention of States as specified by Article V (Checks and Balances). Many other States have already passed it through one of their chambers. Their intention is to reduce the power of government, introduce a 2 term limit for Congress and to create fiscal responsibility. In other words, to cut off the money and power that the government currently has, forcing the government to no longer have access or benefit from both the media and the corporate powers. Look it up. Sign the form to request for a Convention of States. Educate yourself on Article V of the constitution.

[@wanderer3004]

I wonder who the majority of those states are? Looks a little, red.

[@glenmiddleton9831]

Many, if not all, of those 34 states have been gerrymandered so ridiculously that the minority has been ruling the majority usually the rural minority population making statewide decisions over what the true majority population of the cities by cutting them up like pies. Also, look how the rules were changed about SCOTUS appointments on one where McConnell said it was too close to an election to appoint a justice, & then literally appointing & voting on the appointment after they lost their majority. Talk about TYRANNY!

[@redhawk7002]

A States convention will inevitably get to the debate surrounding the breadth of the 2nd Amendment as well as whether or not abortion is a constitutionally protected right. It would be a brawl.

[@leagarner3675]

When you say government, I think you mean Federal government, since the states are government also.

[@leagarner3675]

@@wanderer3004 Sounds like the confederacy trying to overthrow the Federal government and throw out the US Constitution.

[@dadasaurusrex]

The Jedi also fought for democracy and advanced the Siths agenda.

[@thecrazyafrican1]

And look at what a wonderful country South Africa turn into no work 80% unemployment all the companies are leaving no power and no clean water

[@eriqacosta78]

And the CIA "allowed" her to share this

[@Kyiverdam]

So much for the great replacement being just a theory.

[@PolkRidgeAesthete]

Precisely!

[@johnanderson8253]

Nice.

[@larryfulkerson4505]

My wife just said: "Hold my beer.."

[@TheLethargian]

I do not foresee limiting what kinds of speech algorithms can promote as particularly likely, and they also sort of seem like suppression of speech

[@cmyk01092]

I think what’s been shared by Barbara Walter here isn’t anything new, and if she brought anything to the table is her credibility & more weight to her points. What’s often missing is the acknowledgement of the gap between understanding the concepts and the actual actions that can produce the real outcome. Accountability of our lawmakers and actual measurable steps towards true democracy (and not plutocracy) are often left out. An idea without an action is still nothing but a noise. What can we ACTUALLY do about it? Civil Wars also happen because people are often left without or they think they are left without any other options.

[@johnblanchard4565]

Only had to watch 2 mins of this to see that this woman is just another America hating globalist

[@indybob770]

So civil war it IS!

[@theazuzhaters9988]

Our last civil war was fought over economics

[@lolcow6668]

It was fought over other things. Not just that

[@sonyamoste]

The algorithms of social media must be neutral. Favoring one side, or view point will start a civil war, and such a war would be justified.

[@xxcelr8rs]

Woe to the fake news workers.

[@AdaVadCan]

The solutions she presented make no sense. "Ensure everyone has equal access to the vote" Okay, but how does that stop the government from basically doing whatever they want? It sounds like reducing government power would be a better solution. "Manipulate the algorithm so that some people can speak button one can hear them" I can get behind that *on the condition that I get to decide* who is allowed to be heard. If that sounds like a bad deal then it's a bad deal when someone else decides, too. A better solution would be to stop playing identify politics.

[@digitalspecter]

"Manipulate the algorithm so that some people can speak button one can hear them" That's not what she said and probably not what's needed. The problem currently is that the algorithms tend to *amplify* divisive rhetoric because it drives so called engagement. The first step would be to just get rid of those algorithms.. *stop* manipulating who gets heard.

[@thaynealexander]

Agreed. Her solutions make no sense because it's the same solutions that the extremists leftist use. She didn't say anything that different than what we hear from the liberal media.

[@dr.a.w]

Stopping "the government from basically doing whatever they want" is the purpose of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution.

[@danielcrafter9349]

​@@dr.a.w- lol, no

[@stevel6220]

Maybe there should be consequences for lawmakers who repeatedly violate the constitution. Instead of us taxpayers having to pay for unconstitutional laws to be defended in court, make the lawmakers who passed them personally foot the bill.

[@robsmith6215]

Wow,what a wake-up call, that was spot on. Every person who loves the USA should hear this. Share this with your representatives. I think most of us are like that women with her newborn, not seeing it coming , in denial despite the telltale signs.