Why fascism is so tempting -- and how your data could power it | Yuval Noah Harari

[@ShaudaySmith]

"You should never underestimate human stupidity. It is one of the most powerful forces that shape history." Truer words were never spoken.

[@clairec3925]

Psychologically weak as well

[@Apollorion]

+Awakened2Truth You should drop your prejudices concerning communism, christianity and socialism, and become a more skeptic as well as realistic person. To start with: consider that A: the hypothetical figure Jesus Christ from the bible is a very socialist person, that B: so many people were killed was also due to that so many people have been able to become alive due to improvements in agriculture, infrastructure and healthcare, and that C: these murders were mostly motivated from political perspective, not to promote their ideology, but just to gain or hold power.

[@AtheistEve]

Shauday Smith Should we also not _overestimate_ human intelligence as well?

[@sarahjones2178]

And everyone clapping as if they are not also a stupid human. Pretentious

[@Onwardbard99]

Shauday Smith

[@85ndombe]

As a Congolese I was first a little offended when he mentioned my country as being not "nationalist" and therefore poor. But once I thought about the bunch of egoistic leaders we have in power, I have to admit he's right. Congolese leaders sadly don't serve nationalistic interests but rather their own or tribal interests. His statement leaves out the complexity of foreign interventions + the damage that causes this country to be poor (Afghanistan is as much concerned as my country) but from the nationalistic point of view alone he's right.

[@Dark8Empress]

Decolonize your mind. Dont let his eurocentric narrative influence your view of your country. The premise of his entire argument is flawed. He is comparing countries that were not colonized to countries that were colonized. Sweden, Switzerland, Japan are basically ethnostates with one dominant ethnic group that created their own borders based on a sense of ethnic unity. Congo, Afghanistan, Somalia have all been colonized by various foreign powers who have created borders and heightened internal divisions to conquer those states IF you view any KZbin video with a history of wars in Europe. you will see how the borders changed frequently as they fought to create a sense of 'nationalism' for hundreds of years and once they found that sense fought each other almost to mutual destruction in the world wars. Dont the short period of history of internal conflict post -colonization denigrate your view of your country. Israel has a strong sense of 'nationalism' because they drove the Palestinians from their lands and put them into an apartheid state. The Israelis didnt want to live in one state- Palestine with Jews and Muslims. They created an ethnostate only for the Jews and this is touted as 'nationalism". This is very similar to the problem he was criticizing in fascism- the fascist state tries to create an ethnostate based on nationalism.

[@Jay-Kay-Buwembo]

Sorry but his analysis & yours are fundamentally flawed. Claiming that nationalism is the reason that countries are rich and prosperous is just one aspect of the story. Congolese leaders not caring about national interests has a history going back to leaders who have been placed in power by colonial European entities for their own interests. African countries are dependent economies a situation that feeds into corruption and nepotism, those fake leaders have no interest in developing industry or the economy as a whole because they are on a gravy train that is in place to keep African countries poor to access the resources at the lowest possible price. Nobody can look at the situation in African countries without considering the wider economic and political reality & how African countries fit into the global economic system. Further to this the uncertainty & deprivation in African countries is a leading cause in the tribalism and tribal ideation. In the past the Kingdom of Kongo featured a large & centralised kingdom with elected elites who were accountable to the people.

[@ShunyamNiketana]

@@Jay-Kay-Buwembo ~ You might have cause & effect reversed in some cases. Consider the post-colonial literature (memoirs, e.g.) that express a preference for colonial governments such as in India and Nigeria. Why? Tribal conflicts were often violent, common people gained more and not less representation (e.g. they got paid for their labor), and the round table provided a means for making compromises and settling claims that weren't, again, violent. Tribal, ethnic, and religious conflicts often have a long history, one that precedes absorption into an empire. My nuanced perspective is that empire was in some cases preferable to eternal inter-ethnic fighting. By analogy, do we blame US foreign policy for the rise of fundamentalist or extremists groups that rush to fill the "vacuum" of devastation left in the wake of US departure? Do we credit imperial Japan for the strong sense of national identity experienced by Chinese, or do we consider, as I do, China's consistent ancient traditions and values? Maybe there's no vacuum, only age-old grievances that are not amenable to democratic processes, nor in all cases should they be. For that matter, anti-Semitism long predates the creation of the Jewish state in Palestine.

[@Jay-Kay-Buwembo]

@@ShunyamNiketana Where is your evidence regarding tribal conflicts in Africa? Africa has always had multiethnic diverse empires, for example Ancient Nubia in Sudan, the Kingdoms in the Horn & the West African empires like Mali. I don't think that Africans have been any more or less tribal than any other region in the world. Europeans are very tribal and European history has been defined by conflict, warring factions and vying powers right up into the modern era with WW1 and WW2. The idea of that precolonial Africa has been subject to anymore conflict than other regions is a myth. The two world wars fought in Europe led to more than 70 million dead, genocide and ethnic cleansing, Europeans have been warring for millenia.

[@bermymon99]

His point was bs. Correlation doesn't equal causation.

[@themissinglink2163]

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” - Sun Tzu

[@konyvnyelv.]

"The crowd believes more easily a great lie than a little one" - a failed painter

[@bobhope6437]

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true within itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

[@AndogaSpock]

If attempting treason, go presidential !!!

[@fredrikwiberg7365]

You took that quote out of context nerd.

[@konyvnyelv.]

@@fredrikwiberg7365 explain yourself

[@fredrikwiberg7365]

@@konyvnyelv. Have you even read mein kampf or did you just take the quote from the internet? If you read the book it becomes clear that he uses that quote to describe the strategy of his enimies. Not that he says that the national socialists should lie to the people lol.

[@gabay123vip]

"dictatorship might come back" ... were they ever gone???

[@cleanwaternasenyiuganda8124]

He means in the western hemisphere.

[@sapphireblanche7823]

@@cleanwaternasenyiuganda8124 There have been plenty of dictatorships in the western hemisphere

[@dahliafully]

@@cleanwaternasenyiuganda8124 Quite a few propped up dictators by the west in the west.

[@aldoushuxley5953]

At least in the west, yes

[@jordanchristman144]

@@aldoushuxley5953 I feel like the word is used to describe guys from the past in a absolute evil leader. Mao, Stalin, Saddam, Gaddafi, etc. But we call it monarchy in Saudi Arabia cuz we do business

[@jul9cuz]

Pretty smart for a hologram.

[@plastictouch6796]

This guy is an idiot. Fascism has nothing to do with nationalism. It is state protected capitalism, the opposition to communism, capitalism owning the state. Nationalism can happen in a socialist country, communist or a standard capitalist country. It has nothing to do with nationalism.

[@리주민]

Is it me or is his hologram glitching?

[@khalifalbilal3141]

@@plastictouch6796 if he is an idiot, what are you?

[@qiyuechen7853]

@@plastictouch6796 Personal attacks are not protected by the freedom of speech.

[@charliechaplin7959]

Democracy will become an emotional puppet show? Uhmmm....where ya been bra? We're pretty deep into the puppet show stage of things.

[@MafiaFLairBeatz]

Yup. And the capitalist control of the world itself is a form of proto-"friendly fascism"

[@jeevad.tharan4179]

Never underestimate human stupidity and human ingenuity, Both will exceed your wildest imagination.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Yes, there he is talking as if Israel is not a apartheid regime

[@catebannan7343]

“Sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace”, Bob Dylan.

[@thatotherguy8138]

I'm rather surprised that he kept this talk so neutral, and how he can be seen as essentially describing what is happening among Liberals as well as among Conservatives.

[@DrEhrfurchtgebietend]

He is not super accurate on the definition of fascism. There is more to it than the nationalism

[@plasmaballin]

But he specifically says there's more to it than nationalism in the video.

[@plasmaballin]

@Romulus Wow, all I did was question the original comment and you call me a flat earther? At least I know up front that you're not arguing in good faith. I didn't even claim that his definition of fascism was accurate, just that he does distinguish it from nationalism.

[@jamiemarshall8284]

I agree. Fascism is very loosely defined, but I feel its defiantly more about opposing liberalism... instead of encouraging free choice society should be rigidly organized, etc. I feel like nationalism or socialism, though often associated with fascism, are not fascist themselves. In-fact, I would almost describe what he's talking about as liberalism.

[@pacifica2391]

He's comparing fascism and nationalism so of course he's going to talk more about nationalist side

[@andreww5574]

@Romulus is an idiot

[@Holobrine]

Nationalism going by his definition is tribalism with larger tribes. What Lennon wants is to get along across the entire world, not just within one nation.

[@coldblaze100]

Criticizing fascism live from Tel Aviv 😬

[@keyboardcorrector2340]

I R O N Y.

[@magicskyfairy69]

Can you clarify the comment? I legitimately don't understand why criticizing it from Tel Aviv is any different than criticizing it from anywhere else

[@allgoo1964]

@@magicskyfairy69 says: "Can you clarify the comment? I legitimately don't understand why...." == www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Tel+Aviv+is+the+epicenter+of+the+fascism

[@tarunkumarsingh]

BADASS

[@pitkin74]

Stupedest comment ever

[@ac4486]

12:24 - No mention that Liberal democracies also subject their own people to this emotional manipulation. Britain with Corbyn, US with Sanders. Etc.

[@patrickbrawner2438]

My mind has just been blown. I'm going to need to rewatch this video more than once. Whew.

[@vorlonagent]

"In times of crisis people are willing to take risk they wouldn't otherwise take" Bookended by the aphorism popularized by Rahm Emanual, "Never let a good crisis go to waste." I maintain that people are not actually stupid, but distracted. And when distracted are easier to lead around by their emotions. There are, on the other hand, few more sobering, terrifying forces than the full attention of a nation's population.

[@jerrykinworthy9225]

Human stupidity but also ignorance is the most dangerous thing we face today.

[@Arkinight]

This WEF human garbage that states that most people will be a "useless class."

[@Notallowed101]

Like many I cannot believe that TED has had someone 'big-up' nationalism. Yuval has done the right thing here, not condem any one side, blame those who are actually to blame for this mess and ask people to come up with solutions for this problem. Peace and love to all.

[@senorxcoldhands9671]

few minutes in and already a not well-thought/justly considered/well-researched remark regarding a low sense of nationalism being directly proportional to Congo/Somalia's poverty and unrest has been made... I don't know what to expect from this talk but already ethos and logos have hit rockbottom.

[@OhSeriously]

My thoughts exactly, I couldn't help losing interest after that

[@newbeginnings550]

Same thoughts. Congo, Somalia, Afghanistan were fucked by Colonial and Imperialist powers. This guy is very overrated.

[@squamish4244]

India, Indonesia, Vietnam etc. share colonial pasts as well. But they did not end up like those countries, and the difference is tribalism.

[@Black_pearl_adrift]

@@newbeginnings550 well hold on. Colonialism did by extent lower nationalism didnt it? I disagree that low nationalism cam destry a country on its own but colonialism, and the way it breals a country must lead inevitably to low nationalism right?

[@DanielWolf555]

@@newbeginnings550 Maybe the f-ing of these countries by colonialism was facilitated by their low nationalism.

[@ALAPINO]

I like it because the uniforms are so slimming.

[@croftyprojects]

ALAPINO same bro, same

[@caad5258]

You seem to be the only commenter here with a sense of humour...

[@KarryKarryKarry]

Only the Nazi's had a fashion designer; Hugo Boss, for their uniforms. They looked fucking awesome from a design perspective! If you look at the Italian fascists they wore brown shirts and a shoulderstrap.. Not that slimming.. and damn ugly when it comes to the fashion of the time. If you want to look thin you should try communism though! The ism that successfully starves people to the brink of death.. Very slimming..

[@ALAPINO]

The people who got the reference didn't need that, but I'm sure someone who has no idea what 'we' are talking about will gleam a little from your comment. :D Fascism + Carbs = Italians. Communism is great for that pesky last 3% body fat... and proper metabolic function, for that matter. ;D

[@KarryKarryKarry]

ALAPINO Yeah i'm sorry i spilled the beans on fasci..fashion.. It's just an interesting story that people might gleam a little bit of wisdom from and hopefully we can combat the obesity epidemic in the west by promoting the kim jong un grass diet! it's a simple diet.. you only eat grass for a year or so and your belly fat will be all gone! after that we can remove excess skin tissue by strapping a car battery to your abdomen.. literally burning that extra weight right off.

[@jimvasconcellos6419]

You're wrong. Nationalism is unquestioning, my country right or wrong, above all others, no criticism. Patriots criticize to improve their country. Nationalism is the stepping stone to Fascism.

[@kittycatswhiskers]

Yes, completely agree, well said!

[@tongl274]

Jim Vasconcellos you’re confuse.

[@normanberg9940]

What nonsense. In that case never support your national soccer team in any event again, ok?

[@brianlacy8870]

Those who apply the patriot term in my experience are also on that nationalist/fascist spectrum. Citizen works.

[@korppi164]

I identify as a nationalist. I will still criticise my country if I think we are doing something wrong.

[@joaofelipe5741]

I STUDY ENGLISH WITH THIS MAN BECAUSE HE IS AMAZING AND HAVE A EASY ENGLISH TO LISTEN

[@seiji9710]

i think so

[@lorenaamador4233]

Yeah, he says powerful things in a simple way.

[@catherinemcmillan6111]

Fantastic talk. Unfortunately, in March 2022 it really does seem like we're facing a rerun of the late 1930s :-(

[@CG_Hali]

That's why I looked for talks like this as of Sept 2022 actually. Mussolini 2.0 elected in Italy, the Far-Right elected in Finland of all place, Liz Truss who is more far-right and cruel than Margaret Thatcher, Bolsanaro about to muck up elections in Brazil (they'll just claim they are fraudulent if he loses), Pierre Polievre who is a crazy far-right anti-science chief of Conversatives in Canada, women losing bodily autonomy in the US (Roe vs Wade overturn)... It's getting real scary!

[@muskepticsometimes9133]

The main threat from the left

[@anonymous_29_Bishnoi]

@@CG_Hali u forgot INDIA But left ain't no better....i am indian and i support anything that govt wants to do

[@jayz9019]

@@CG_Hali the fascism is coming from the people that attack at a massive scale journalism, education, health, identity etc that's coming from the top or at least democrats, not the far right -__-

[@lococomrade3488]

​@muskeptic sometimes Nah, January 6 proved that Fascism is always on the Right-wing.

[@HSandrw]

As an engineer I don’t agree that centralized computation is more efficient than distributed computation

[@Giga_Chad1AD]

HSandrw what field of engineering are you in?

[@brendonferguson5726]

He doesn't say that centralized computation is always more efficient. He says that because of technology we are likely to develop in the 21st century, governments may have enough central computing power to run a society

[@davidgutierrez3312]

Electrical energy has to travel shorter distances, so yes, it is more efficient to have everything under the same roof.

[@danz309]

@@davidgutierrez3312 Dictatorships have always been the most efficient forms of government. Whatever the dictator wants gets done. But if you are trying to do a good job, algorithmically it leads to spaghetti code and therefore extremely difficult to do a good job as the number of tasks increase. A decentralized system arrives at the solution algorithmically more efficiently, and therefore with less consumption of power, although slower. So I disagree with the speaker. He's probably another one of those people who think China does everything so good and therefore will take over.

[@ssc9689]

He is simply asking engineers to find way where distributed computation is more efficient because if it is centralised than that would mean access is provided to very few hands leaving everything in their power which might have adverse impact

[@SandorFule]

A "like" from Hungary. This speech explains well the difference between nationalism and fascism. If "nation" is at the top of your order of values, then you got the fascism virus.

[@artnatal2117]

Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated! Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII- I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist. Patriotism (patrio = father) loves place of birth, culture, language, custom .

[@selfreference2]

As an engineering, I can state: decentralization is still better. The amount of AI necessary to create a dictatorship with the powers of a democracy would ensure a country is run by AI, not dictators.

[@m.x.]

Decentralisation from the point of view of the state is like going back to feudalism (called neofeudalism nowadays) and, therefore, weakening modern states to the point that they'll be easily beaten economically and militarily by any other strong, centralised state.

[@lucemiserlohn]

@@m.x. No. Decentralisation, done right, places the power of decision at the level equal to the compentency required to make it. For decentralisation done right, refer to the subsidiary principle. The real test for modern states is resisting the temptation to blow up the administration and amass perceived power which in the end leads to indecision and powerlessness. There is a tendency to inflate administration, where power is not delegated, but amassed at the top level. This needs to be resisted, as this is what leads to what we see in our own examples as the "weak west".

[@marianhunt8899]

The AI is owned by the Oligarchs.

[@stevemartin4249]

I would say there is something more fundamental than Facism ... as that is restricted to only one kind of institution, the nation-state. At 15:00, the interviewer correctly points this out. More fundamentally, authoritarianism is the simplification and reduction of identity to any single institution ... a particular religion, corporate culture, or nation state. (See Herman and Chomsky on 'Manufacturing Consent' as ways of the dysfunctional concentrating power). At least nation-states can endulge in the conceit of democratic ideals. Corporations do not even bother with that, 'too big to fail' banks or GAFA (Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple) being good examples. Having lived in Japan for over 36 years now, authoritarianism masquerading as a meritocracy, appears to the ground from which so many social problems arise. I think the speech shows many good insights, but could be improved by bringing in other triangulations such as the differences in morality between small communities, the roots of morality as explored by primatology (Frans de Waal), and large populations (Robin Dunbar), the ruling elite and those just getting by, the altruists and the dark-triad personality types. Scary times ahead, with three voices weighing in, pointed to at 18:00 of the above video. 1 - Chomsky's opening remarks at his 2011 Chapel Hill speech ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4vFiGqiq6yeq6M 2 - Stephen Hawking on Stupidity and Greed as our downfall ... mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/video-stephen-hawking-greed-and-stupidity-are-what-will-end-the-human-race-ayunr2tOL0Sf4HVLW7eSAA/?SP&SP&SP&SP&SP&fbclid=IwAR2KomxhTDU0zxaWWxD65q5B7vpifUKo5Ms7QydD4WLbDgIiLJYuPXYgtVo 3 - J. Robert Openheimer, upon observing the father of the atomic bomb ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/opOUZKykqph8l8U Indeed ... scary times ahead.

[@SR-em8wl]

Videos like these should be shown to students in schools, that will be true education. Also, TED should have a separate account for sensible videos like this because it is coming up with more crap and it's getting hard to find these videos among all of them.

[@VADER677]

He thinks the definition of nationalism is patriotism. Your kids will grow up dumb and susceptible to fascism. Not a good idea.

[@kmstop]

@@VADER677 did you watch the whole video? You’re missing the context.

[@VADER677]

@@kmstop ok then,, Whats the difference between patriotism and nationalism? If your an American you should be able to awnser this question.

[@alexis_or_alex]

I’m watching this for school :) my teachers awesome

[@SR-em8wl]

@@alexis_or_alex Aw that's so cool. Convey them that if possible 😄

[@narcobob3743]

People throw the word around loosely today and there are very few survivors of real fascism left to remind of us that our world is a much better place and we take it too much for granted.

[@Voe198]

Im very glad that we are asking these questions.

[@alejandro38066]

This video should be promoted worldwide. We should all understand this new challenge. Excellent as usual, Mr. Yuval.

[@GrantSR]

He seems to be just making up his own definitions for "nationalism" and "fascism." He is redefining "nationalism" as simple patriotism and then describing extreme nationalism but calling it "fascism." It almost seems as if he is trying to give cover to people who call themselves (or have been called) "nationalists."

[@GreatDayEveryone]

Grant Robertson because his own country has many if the aspects of fascism

[@airevolt1]

@Richmond Manga maybe they should stop making enemies

[@ChicagoTurtle1]

Grant Robertson. Ya fascism is much more than those features Harari brought up. He’s either oversimplifying without saying these are jus a few of the features, or he’s just a reductionist.

[@miguelitorios172]

Most underrated Ted.

[@howielisnoff]

A great overview of fascism in contemporary society.

[@projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762]

Replace nationalism with Globalism and you'll see the Globalist socio-fascists of today's world.

[@akshaymankar554]

The message is SO important, there is no translated captions available in Hindi, or any Indian language. Can that Please be added?

[@SaucyPython26]

From Tel Aviv eh? Classic! EVERY SINGLE TIME

[@plerpplerp5599]

Never underestimate the power of a crowd of stupid people. George Carlin

[@saraf5414]

I was also thinking about Carlin while watching this video! I remembered the time Carlin said he doesn't vote because politicians are people stupid public selects into government and then complain about why the government sucks... My, GC really was well ahead of his time

[@thunderpooch]

The crowd: Murica'

[@allies7184]

Yes, but did he ever believe he was one of the stupid people? Or did he believe every word that came out of his mouth was pure gold?

[@MommaLousKitchen]

This one. ♥️😁

[@MommaLousKitchen]

@@allies7184 it's definitely not what this fella is talking. Globalization ain't gonna. Cut. It. 👏

[@lionturtle1972]

Talk about spot on with what is going and has been going on right now.

[@LordsofMedia]

He is one of the reasons why.

[@vintagevibes1974]

@@LordsofMedia some people don’t want to control anything and actually believe humans should wake up and shift. He is telling people to do just that. Will they? Nope they will ignore him, call him names, and more-hence why he says stupidity. Is he on the side of dark energy? It doesn’t matter what he does, he is speaking the absolute truth. Your feelings are not changing that and if if you don’t change, can’t blame him. He warned you. 😘

[@LordsofMedia]

@@vintagevibes1974 lay off the wine

[@martycrow]

Just over two years since this and YNH's warnings seem even more salutary. Towards the end he says that humanity has overcome major problems in the past and the ones faced in 2018 were "nothing". I think he has changed his mind.

[@mateuspedro16]

Sua palestra converge com a realidade hoje... No Brasil, os dois dedos que você alertou aconteceram :(

[@smithasreejith8855]

What happened? Can you explain?

[@subpsychonaut]

It is in the nature of true and absolute power to rule behind invisibility,inscrutability,and to perpetually obscure and obfuscate the network of its command and control.

[@ericadler9680]

He's simplifying extremely. National Socialism concentrated on the race, not on the nation, and Italian fascism concentrated on the state as a living organism. Both were imperialist, but nationalism is not imperialist.

[@AndreasDelleske]

Yes, I felt uneasy when he started to paint nationalism as good only because it might avoid tribal societies. Nationalism is tribal but with a bigger tribe. Also this claim has no base in science AFAIK. I am not particular proud of being German, but as long we hold up truth seeking, rationality and empathy,, state of law and fairness, I will be proud of something that was given to me for free. If we slide into something else I will leave Germany and be proud of another nation that does it better, just like the founders of the US did.

[@CG_Hali]

Wish he had been given more time to explain about corporations being the real governments. What he probably means is that big corporations make all the decisions through financing and influencing (lobbying) our 'democratic' governments, and therefore their interests are the real concern of those elected, not the People.

[@Wanderor2003]

I share your definition of what is the core of fascism, but I feel like a minority when I explain it. Your video helps me have more confidence in my definition. The way I boil it down: when some folks lose core rights and privileges, because they are deemed undeserving or because they are not considered in line with the nation, we are slipping into fascism. Often, it begins with the most downtrodden, like homeless people who get treated in ways that would be considered a grave human rights violation if done to another citizen. Then if moves up to declaring that folks of this or that religion or ideology are not equal citizens and should have less rights, etc.

[@Wanderor2003]

Ps : note how it has nothing to do with communist, socialist or capitalist discourse. Any regime or nation, whether it claims to be communist, socialist, capitalist, etc. can slip into fascism.

[@PeaceAkaShanti]

Who is watching this talk after Indian 🇮🇳 MP ( member of parliament) Mahua Moitra’s fiery maiden talking about growing signs of fascism in India 🇮🇳 ???

[@radhakrishnanvadakkepat8843]

In India all social problem such as unemployment,freedom of speech healthcare,social security etc. are sidelined and patriotism, nationalism,religious bigotry, hate speech are made the major issues to get power.

[@squamish4244]

The fact that India has been a democracy for 70 years is incredible though. But I agree that unfortunately politicians everywhere use hate to get elected.

[@brightpage1020]

Calling from November 2020. Thanks for the warning. Wish we'd gotten it sooner and heard all the warnings engineers were giving, and paid attention to all the warnings economists and international studies professors were giving us 20 years ago, around 9/11/01.

[@1mol831]

... China is now facist.

[@humanchannel7825]

@@1mol831 how is that relevant?

[@sreeradhaseth176]

Very interesting talk. But I would like to point out one thing. Nationalism is certainly better than Fascism but it itself isn't a good thing. That's why many philosophers like Rabindranath Tagore, Kant, Gandhi supported the idea of internationalism. Nationalism indeed works but it also polarizes the world. Nationalism is not always a good thing. ( Harari talked about Japan and Japan is truly an amazing country but it also has one of the highest suicide rates. In many ways, it's still a very patriarchal society. The happiness of the people in a country doesn't entirely depend on how good the economy is ).But if we treat a world as one big community, it reduces the chances of war and other human catastrophes. We learn to acknowledge each other's differences and yet we treat each other as people belonging to one single community. This certainly sounds like a utopian vision but it's feasible, given how the internet connects all of us

[@patrickmccartney2418]

Corporations, or those with the resources to control the data, that are against everyone’s interests, will be able to convince the majority that those corporations, or individuals, are an angelic force for good.

[@ShivaPrasad-hm6xe]

This exactly what happening in India right now.

[@glokta1]

Yup. India and Hungary are time machines into the future for what happens when politics of hate and unchecked power are allowed to fester.

[@notthebees4961]

Does anyone know a good documentary on this?

[@meganaxelia]

Not at all. You ELECTED such governments due to Hindu tribalism. Your people need nationalism to bring all together more than ever.

[@archanarani1609]

Highly disagreeing. India is strengthening nationalism rather than becoming a fascist country. As far as I know, media is free and the government is not claiming to be our savior. It's rather trying to be as democratic and decentralised it can be.

[@ashwinramaswamy4059]

@@archanarani1609 That is false. The government is subtly pushing the narrative that India has a dangerous enemy within it - Muslims and leftists - just like the Nazis did. A lot of people today believe that Indian Muslims want to destroy India and the government repeatedly fuels this. (Remember how the PM said 'Shaheen bagh is an experiment'? ) Most media houses fuel this dangerous notion, in combination with limitless adulation for the leaders. The state regularly conducts witch-hunts for the less high profile leaders of dissenting groups by misusing laws like sedition and UAPA. The media and social media campaigns enable this by painting false narratives about them being dangerous (eg: Sharjeel imam, Anand Teltumbde, etc). And all the while ruling party members and sometimes even the highest government officials get away with hate speech, that sometimes allude to genocide. The press freedom index has plummeted since 2014. The ruling party has been conflating Hindutva with nationalism for years, to the extent that it's impossible to see where one begins and the other ends. This is another trait of fascism that Yuval has not addressed. It's that with enough control over the sources of information, people can be kept in a perpetual state of delusion where they deny what they are seeing with their own eyes.

[@pauljohnston9446]

So how would you describe your nation's interactions with Palestinians if not fascism ... So much for "never again" ...

[@TheZzpop]

This was phenomenally on point. I would add one amendment to this. The information revolution has both opened up new avenues for small undemocratic elites to manipulate the masses, but it has also opened up new avenues in the other direction towards more efficient distributed information processing. Capitalism and representative democracy involve less centralized power than fascism but still a great deal of centralized power none the less. We have much more room to explore in the decentralized direction. Technology does not seem to have a preference for authority or liberty. Technology is widening the window of possibility, those of us who care about democracy must learn rapidly to use emergent technology to construct decentralized democratic cooperative networks as an alternative vision of humanity to contend with the trifecta of corporate centralization, State centralization, and populist cults of personality.

[@biplabchowdhury9364]

The more I hear this genius, the more I want to hear

[@ShaikSameer549]

Eye opener video. 👍

[@FOLIPE]

That's a great lecture. It seems to me he is making the point that the biggest risk for the future is that authoritarian governments and forms of power, like companies, will become more efficient in comparison to democratic forms of decision making. If that happens, then we will be in a difficult place, because it being more efficient doesn't make its decisions better for the people necessarily.

[@faustoc4]

First half has lots of contradictions and incoherences as other have mentioned, but second half is when he really talks about the how fascists benefit from massive data gathering and what he describes in general terms is how the US people were radicalized by Cambridge Analytica though not mentioned by name. Now they are daily radicalized into fascism thru social media

[@gariraegray8138]

But it took him until the end to get off the control of data by governments and get to the real threat: the control of information by uncontrolled private enterprise and media.

[@artnatal2117]

Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated! Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII- I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist.

[@albertomolina8908]

Fascism is just a caricature or exaggeration of nationalism. In fact, both ideologies share some features, such as the manipulation of history to achieve and defend their own interests as a nation. It is not necessary to be fascist to support the idea of "manifest destiny" or that of "chosen people".

[@peacefulnuke7690]

Can someone plz explain how does this hologram work?

[@Charactermatters650]

No matter where you go, there you are - Fromm researched and wrote all about this in the 60’s.

[@NaeemAmin]

*"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."*

[@Munchkin2357]

He's so right. We must not underestimate human stupidity. It has been responsible for some of the worst events in history.

[@vitoroliveira4290]

I have a doubt : If i can determine an fascist ideology just by the number of identitys it allows me to have and be loyal to, then how would fascism be diferent then many other ideologys ? Explanation : Every ideology has a quantity of rules and or definitions.if someone or something do something contrary to my ideology, this person /thing is actualy beeing contrary to one or more idelogy rules/definitions. If none of the rules/definitions was threatened, then its not against my ideology. And as those rules/definitions cover only a small part of reality, (it cant describe everithing ! ), i will necessarily have many open topics that dosent threatens the ideology. So, in every fascist ideology i will find many oportunitys to express myself, an identity, whitout harm to my ideology. In other words, i will have many identitys in any fascist ideology. And get worse when i think that every ideology naturally prevents me to cause harm to its rules, simply because i have proud of be part of the ideology. Even if one of the rules are something like 'Dont have sure of anything', i'll still try to defend my proud, and then the ideology. Even in a simple discussion i'll tend to defend my previous statements. Conclusion : So, every ideology allows me to have many identitys, even when reducing greatly the number of identitys i can have. And every identity indirectly or directly prevents me to accept any harm to its rules. i dont want to desagree with Yuval, of course, but i really can't see it diferently. Help ?

[@bipl8989]

Other ideologies would require allegence to something other than "only the interest of the nation".

[@wecallhimchristwist]

I am a big believer in slowing down your brain. The reason is that when we slow our minds, we can be much more consciously aware of what we are doing instead of just reacting, which uses our automatic/subconscious/programs instead of asking us to rationalize our thoughts.

[@terryhildrum3365]

Nationalism and fascism go hand in hand. Patriotism however, is the positive aspect; being proud of the good things your country stands for, while guarding against threats to that positive identity. As a Canadian patriot, I am proud to be part of a multi-national identity. Nationalism is a red flag; it's the precursor of fascism.

[@Lady8D]

I feel like he's speaking in future possibilities and what he's describing is exactly how the American election of 2016 went so terribly wrong. I don't use social media sites like FB, twitter, etc and during the 2016 election I witnessed from the outside just how powerfully those sites were being used to manipulate the feelings and opinions of the people around me. Don't get me wrong, news stations focused on ratings over facts-absolutely bear some of the responsibility too but there was a drastic difference in those around me that seemed to be: more time on social medias = far more likely to have very strong feelings based on inaccurate information.

[@VikramMeena1]

India is going from the same

[@danilotroncoso9170]

Trump won cause the people is tired of media opinion dictatorship. Clinton wasnt a good person.

[@TheDionysianFields]

If humans are so weak and gullible, do we really deserve to survive?

[@smoketrash6807]

@@danilotroncoso9170 There is no opinion dictatorship other than the spreading of american imperialism, patriarchal relationships, and racism. The right wing LITERALLY dominate the government

[@danilotroncoso9170]

@@smoketrash6807 Bullshit since "patriarcal".Why do you think Trump won? cause everyone are blind except you?people are tired of people like you, shouting "hate speech" every minute.

[@ingridlandberg8662]

My personal situation may be odd but I mention it because it might be prescient. With pandemic lockdown, I have watched a lot of KZbin. I joke that their algorithm knows me better than I know myself. This is a good thing because I am truly learning my strengths and weaknesses. As a girl, I had to be a people pleaser to survive. Being me was dangerous. What KZbin reveals seems to come at a pace I can handle. I'm sure it has to do with my choices. It does scare me some. Like Nazis and thought police, Big Brother could easily find me thru internet. I am not sheep. Like Cassandra, no one listens to me either.

[@jackreacher.]

I hear you.

[@allgoo1964]

Hate(and also drive to militarism) is a by-product of (wealth)inequality. People get angry but they don't know who to blame. Not surprisingly it usually starts from uneducated working class. Look into the history, there's a strong pattern in relation between the growing poverty and hate. Object of the hate is not that important, another race, immigrant another religion, anything that stands out from the majority of population. You can find it in any country, any culture, any period in time. Important part is to hide the real problem. Only thing it needs to get the ball rolling is a leader that encourages it. People who create the inequality are very eager to turn the people's attention elsewhere.

[@teresabaptista7016]

Brilliant lecture, Professor Harari. I don't think technology will hack our feelings... My freedom is intrinsic to my personality. No person nor regime can hack it. Though, ignorance, lacking discernment and critical thinking, will surely allow any regime to hack their feeling, their freedom and their humanity.

[@teresabaptista7016]

By the way, what democratic regimes are missing is to educate their people to citizenship.

[@artnatal2117]

Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated! Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII- I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist. Patriotism (patrio = father) loves place of birth, culture, language, custom .

[@redoktobarwarthundervids8820]

It is not fascism when Yuval Noah Harari does it

[@DebashishKumar123]

What did he do?

[@DenisTriton]

Я попробую привести другой пример. В психологии есть понятие нарциссизма и психопатии. И если вы ознакомитесь какими методами пользуются эти люди в межличностных отношениях, то вы найдете поразительное сходство с... фашизмом. А что если я скажу, что у каждого народа и у каждой нации есть свой психологический портрет?

[@lipidsled]

Midway through the talk, I ended up wondering - if you blur the lines between patriotism, nationalism, and fascism so much and make them so broad, then everytime something or someone is claimed to be fascist, will I and should I take them seriously. And if the definition is so broad, is it even something to worry about then; because this can lead to a nationalist being seen as 'potential fascist' and thus him/her facing the scrutiny by so called 'anti-fascist'. If one worries about a leader to become potential oppressors because he/she supports national identity higher than others, cant a leader be a potential oppressor simply because (s)he supports more non libertarian regulations / extreme socialistic policies. Should I in that case just worry about this overhyped, broad (in terms of nationalism) and narrow (in terms of kinds of oppression) definition of fascism or are there more similar ideologies which can cause similar rise to oppressive regimes (oppression on groups with differing moral/ideological compass etc) which are not being catered to by this defination of fascism? Then this concern against (broad yet narrow) 'fascism' can also be used to either villainies not so fascistic nationalism or/and simply promote other ideology slyly. The part with data makes sense, but when I see protests against say a first basic steps by govt, which should improve efficiency using digitisation/centralisation, just coz it could lead to second then third then fourth step which would be giving to much control to govt and is potential fascistic, it feels like the concerns are being stretched too far. This makes me feel like maybe fascism is not a problem if they cry wolf so broadly for any and every nationalist move. Just trying to put an alternative pov on how someone can perceive the current wave of so called fascism and the 'anti-fa' protests against them. Maybe it's just a dog whistle problem, people saying something but perceivers hearing something else due to different definations in their mind..

[@gyanpc8618]

This was one of the most truthful Ted Talk I have ever seen. Its futuristic realistic and informative at the same time which is awesome.

[@sussurroabissale8565]

I am Italian. I am simply astonished by the description that he has done of democracy. This video is a very detailed summary of the most recent italian politics, especially when he explain how politician could use data in order to create hate. In Italy is happening exactly what he said: "fascism is evil, I am not evil after all so i am not fascist". This is what the most of the people say. Our minister Matteo Salvini has focalised the attention of the entire nation on migration. As a consequence, refugees are basically seen as the major cause of all our problems. I often hear people saying "Italy is no longer italian. Italian first". Italian first is the slogan of Salvini. During tv shows and other debate, Salvini use to correlate facts totally random, and use many simbols of force, like wearing police uniform. In other situation Salvini has kissed rosary in public. In summary, he want angry people to vot him

[@sussurroabissale8565]

Sorry for bad english

[@jean-louispech4921]

Anger and fear are the base of the fascism, like all right wing ideologies. You don't have fascism in a society where there is hope.

[@mcc.o.4835]

Have you watched this on KZbin? "The 10 tactics of fascism | Jason Stanley | Big Think" I think this video explains it very well. Yes - Italy for sure has this going on as well as the United States and many other countries.

[@kreyvegas1]

This guy is such a huckster. He creates his own facts by the minute. Good entertainment material for 13-year olds trying to design their own superhero, digital world. I can't quite understand why he has such big following; are they all that simpleminded?

[@senorxcoldhands9671]

personal biases...so many in this talk. Biases aren't necessarily bad...however in this context its giving us a glimpse into what Yuval's version of truth is rather than the multi-dimensionality of it all...and that is misinformation Misinformation can never be good for anyone.

[@AlphaGeminorum1]

Bravo! You exposed yourself as a proponent of fascism.

[@iLiveOnFijiTime]

Is there a country that looks at itself as the best and always correct country that the world should follow? Hmmmmmm. Any country at all come to mind? ...

[@DerAua]

😀👍

[@johnl4309]

🇺🇸

[@smilingbudha7414]

yes ISRAEL

[@glokta1]

Sounds like India

[@MindMasterJD]

Your definition of fascism is very interesting. Fascism gives the feeling that we belong to the supreme nation. At the same time, I think that nationalism too is equally dangerous as it is the door to fascism. Patriotism may be the better option for us. Anything more that a sense of belonging to a geographical territory is dangerous for humanity. Both fascism and nationalism are stupidity.

[@lenerflenerius7808]

how is patriotism not related to nationalism though? facism is just misaligned and manipulated nationalism. and nationalism can both be state strengthing and state weakening at the same time. nationalism like is japan is state strengthing because their alignment is into the nation-state and not to politicians, meanwhile a lot of americans call themselves patriots while blinded by one politician

[@artnatal2117]

Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated! Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII- I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist.

[@this-abledtheextravertedhe5299]

Very insightful.

[@Carloshache]

I'm not sure why dictatorships with centralized data processing would be the winners even if they develop a very sofisticated processing technology. The problem remains that in a centralized system, the big decision-making is ultimately on one or very few actors,. One actor's bad decisions might affect the whole system very negatively. A distributed data processing system always have actors that fare better even if there's a crisis.

[@benshiffman8977]

Just curious, what do ya’ll think socialism, communism, and fascism are? Are any of them the same?

[@kyriellehenry2816]

socialism and communism are basically synonymous. Both are concerned with distributing everything equally which sounds good on the surface but in reality is a mess because there is no room for growth, and hard work doesnt pay off making people less motivated to do anything at all. Fascism as I understand it, is a tactic used to control the masses by having everyone think more highly of themselves then they ought. Therefore going to extreme measures to protect the "elite" by whatever that may entail. And not only that, you'll act a certain way, dress a certain way, see the world a certain way all because of what you believe. that's my take.

[@Someguy029]

I see socialism and communism as synonymous, as Engels wrote in the preface of the communist manifesto. There's variations of it, and disagreement among leftists on how to achieve it, but they always boil down to the removal of class differences. For most communists/socialists, this means moving away from the capitalist mode of production, the value-form, commodity production, alienation, accumulation of capital, the state, currencies and what not. There's also market socialists who argue that with increased democracy and worker managed capitalism, we can achieve the elimination of class differences, though there's still much debate over this. As for fascism, whilst collectivist, has very little in common with socialism/communism. Fascism generally maintains the capitalist mode of production, albeit organized in a way that's known as corporatism. Some treat this as a third position, opposed to socialism and capitalism. All three dislike laissez faire capitalism and find issues with it. And Socialism/Communism and fascism find issues with each other.

[@yondaime500]

Fascism is a form of evolutionary humanism, which is the idea that some humans are genetically and/or culturally superior to others, and so it is their right and their duty to "improve" the human species by whichever means necessary. Meanwhile, socialism and communism are a form of social humanism, which is the idea that people should work to generate wealth for the benefit of society, not for themselves, and all wealth should be distributed equally (or "fairly") among the people. In socialism, a central government would seize the means of production and impose a cultural revolution to prepare society for communism, where the people themselves would uphold these values without the need of an authority. The third form of humanism is liberal humanism, which upholds private property and individual liberties, and rejects any "positive rights" (rights that demand that other people do something for you), including free healthcare, free education etc. Most countries today operate under a mixture of social and liberal humanism, and people who show sympathy for evolutionary humanism are promptly arrested and/or ostracized. Social humanists and liberal humanists each defend that other group should get the same treatment. That's just my 2 cents. Of course reality is far more complex than this KZbin comment. Also, I got some of that from the book Sapiens (written by Harari).

[@TonyMacFarlane]

Ah! Ben is looking for pearls among swine again.

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

yondaime500: "which is the idea that people should work to generate wealth for the benefit of society, not for themselves" Aren't your "themselves" part of your "society"? yondaime500: "a central government would seize the means of production and impose a cultural revolution to prepare society for communism, where the people themselves would uphold these values without the need of an authority." Does the government/authority hang in this balance of spreading the wealth to all corners of the communist country? I don't think so. The people are never allowed to uphold the values, hence the government takes those values away with the grain seen in the Holodomor, which claimed more lives the the so-called Holocaust! In the end, fascism and communism are all out for themselves. As well as capitalists. They care nothing for society, nor the benefit of the human race. The government rules the whole. What riches are around aren't given to the people but cornered for the elite. And the elite are chosen by the government. The people start fragmented leadership which turns into guerrilla segments to try to take down the dictatorial few who own the crown. The only part of "society" you're trying to discuss in these governments are those who take what they want and leave scraps for the rest. America, Britain, and Russia, Europe as a whole. They've all done this to their citizens. Every country, not solely those claiming to be fascist/communist, what-have-you. America is very fascist in the way they deal the deck. We allow all kinds, which is why we're the land of opportunity, though it's allowed that the worst can take over, which is to it's detriment. Never are there peace mongerors in the true sense of the word. All are out for their own, which is supposed to be good. End of rant...or is it just the beginning?

[@vince6252]

Democracy based on feelings, we have to think beyond the feelings? We're boned! Most people cannot do this, or at least never do it. *** Wow! I never knew that distributed data processing was so important!

[@artnatal2117]

Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated! Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII- I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist.

[@MarkSHogan]

Don't let yourself be manipulated with appeals to built in flattery, fear, and hate feeling's weaknesses.

[@Arag0n]

There is only one problem with this speech, as he said, in a fascist society the most important for all individuals is the success of the nation. For the success of the nation, you need well fed, well educated, well cared and intellectually challenging people, therefore a true fascist society will try even harder than a democracy to provide for its own citizens. That's why while Hitler was killing Jews, he was also dramatically increasing the benefits and social programs to rpovide for "his own". That's why more often than not, communism and fascism practice pretty much same social policies, and that means we shouldn't expect fascist countries to do badly necessarily and assume democracy is a natural winner. For democracy to win it must continuously prove it can provide better results or we will lose it.

[@nancymohass4891]

Not just "Nation" but any idea dictated to us and its excluded from our "thoughts" , and our own understanding the real truth , as Hanna Ardent said , thoughtlessness , is the origin of Fascism . History around the world shows this fact well.

[@saifulislamrubel6497]

Sadly Zionism is noting but a fascism, has been getting support from scholars like Yuval Noah Harari and his country Israel.

[@ArbazKhan-re9zw]

You can not blame Zionism on him without knowing anything.

[@MrJezzell]

"These countries without nationalism are violent and poor..." proceeds to name three countries ravaged by the imperialist nationalism of other countries. Please, keep telling me why nationalism is a good thing.

[@liamwilson6102]

That's beside the point he made. Also nationalism is different from imperialism. Capitalism in the modern sense also isn't very nationalistic because we depend on other countries. Btw imperialism isn't a crime nor is it unethical as long as the rules of warfare are followed.

[@tomhallgren310]

Jordan Ezzell agree, much of what he says is extremely oversimplified. I’m from Sweden and was surprised that he mentioned Sweden as a nationalistic country. There are many nations which are much more nationalistic yet dysfunctional, thereby falsifying that stupid logic. As you mentioned, by claiming this, he completely disregards entire colonial and imperial historical contexts of dysfunctional states.

[@msiankid]

@@tomhallgren310 Could you share some nationalistic yet dysfunctional nations? I tried google but I'm not very good with it.

[@wilmer89]

Somalia definitely wasn't ravaged by imperialism.

[@tomhallgren310]

Johannes Liechtenauer Sweden, enormously dysfunctional..?

[@stacyhaynes4832]

Some empathy is what we need

[@fangsclaws]

But empathy is also a feeling, and your empathy can be manipulated in a dictatorship. What we need ,ost is the ability to think criticaly, and question everything twice before we make a choice.

[@jasiowaty17]

How is that hologram made? What technology do they use?

[@DorianPaige00]

It's not the data; it's jobs and the ability to earn a living. Liberals have pandered to the downtrodden and disenfranchised with handouts and elevating social status through special rights (affirmative action, transgender ideology, gay marriage, new pronouns). Black nationalists tells us that their race's progress can't be solved without land reforms. I'm somebody that would fight reparations to my death but I realized I'm a tad short-sighted. The housing crisis has been exacerbated not only by our leftist immigration policy but more so by our environmental policy. National and state parks, forever green zones, farmers that are paid by government for non-development deed restriction all limit the amount of land available. My solution is for the government to chop up places like the Ocala National Forest and the upper part of the everglades into 1-5 acre plots for a 10K price-tag with a reversion if it's not your primary residence for atleast 10 years. Restructure the swamp so that canals can irrigate the land which can then also be used as farmland. Floridians mostly live on the coasts and bear the brunt of hurricanes. Maybe it's time to have a change of policy and open up this lands for building. The liberal left who says otherwise are just a bunch of elitists. This is a solution that will benefit all and new frontier for those who missed the development of western lands where all you had to do is arrive, stake your claim, and defend.

[@NR-kz2nj]

just brilliant Yuval Noah Harari

[@martinjohnson5498]

His description of fascism almost exactly describes communism once it takes power.

[@benjaminmyers5299]

Marxism and National Socialism have a common ideological origin, and a common economic program.

[@andrewhaywood3853]

Yes, far left and far right are the same evil because they come from the same psychological stance: “people are puppets”. Both Communism and Fascism are the parties for Psychopaths. Only a Psychopath could think that total lack of empathy for any human being is ok. They think that about empathy because they lack it, and so it’s a mental disability of emptiness as a human being, which is turned into a political ‘stance’. It’s not a stance, it’s sick. They then project their sickness onto other groups, to try and eject their emptiness from themselves. But they can never get rid of the fact that they are the defective human beings.

[@MaximC]

I recommend watching Philosophy Tube's video on Antifa, because that video also explains today's fascism.

[@LeosGuitar]

If democracy is based on human emotions ('cause people don't feel like getting informed due to a lack of incentives), wouldn't be better to change the democratic process and that the vote of well-informed people had more value? This is a question discussed by Jason Brennan in his book "Against democracy"

[@aominhduy47]

Beautiful speech

[@demonioamarelo1064]

People are really easily mystified. The beginning of his talk is so full of the worst kind of prejudice and malice, and people take it as "philosophy", or even "intelligence". Harari is not intelligent, nor he is a philosopher: he is a propaganda puppet. He says there is a difference between fascism and nationalism: without discussing it, he immediately assumes and urges his public to assume with him that nationalism is one of the most benign forces. He rebukes John Lennon's famous song, and says that nationalism makes countries peaceful and prosperous, while countries without this quality become poor and violent, in "tribal chaos". This is a plethora of nonsense, and oversimplified concepts to the level of pure prejudice and total lack of notions of history or philosophy. First: "tribal chaos", coming from a man who wrote a sweeping book on the history of humankind, is just scandalous. It takes one handbook on anthropology to show how this means an utter and complete lack of the tiniest notion of what tribal organisation is. Anyone who's read even two pages on the subject knows that what he just said is nothing but the most backwards ignorant prejudice. But let's continue: nationalism makes countries peaceful and prosperous, like Switzerland or Japan. Really? Was it nationalism? Or could we historically point out many specific conditions, including a violent approach to the market structure of modern economy? The banks in Switzerland? Japan's research in technology? And take note we aren't discussing the morality of those endeavours, we're just pointing out things that became structurally important to those nations by a long historic process. We could also point out that both have had at least one point in their history in which fascism was important, where prejudice took over their society. Now, the losers of Harari's game: Afghanistan and Congo, in his examples, are violent and poor, due to their lack of nationalism. Oh, really? Nothing to do with colonialism in Congo? Nothing to do with comercial exploitation and wars in Afghanistan? Simply "lack of nationalism"? Nationalism is the open door for fascism. Lennon was not wrong: those who help each other not because they are living in this world, but because of fictional lines in a map, are the ones who are the real violent ones. The ones who, from the top of their ignorance, call others poor or violent without any knowledge of facts nor sophistication of thought. For me, it is totally weird and deeply disturbing that such a propaganda mouthpiece for Fascism 2.0 is sold as an important speaker. The only explanation for this is that his system is clearly winning: people do not read history or philosophy anymore, and can't see his unfathomable ignorance. I wish he was just a hologram, a computer generated thing. But, just like in the past horrors in this world, he is not, he is a human being.

[@minivergur]

I feel like this missed the mark on too many levels, but there were some good points there

[@alexgibson2871]

No mention of history, of Italian fascism growing as a civilian reaction to communist violence when the state did nothing to protect private property. An abberation to be sure, but these people who think evil is "the other guy" will never understand it, it's just rationalising.

[@RP125]

Very very significant lecture by Yuval Noah Harari

[@nickblood7080]

This is outstanding!

[@leealexander3507]

The 1960s and early 70s didn't look bad to me. We had some pretty good music with a bluesy sound. It didn't belong entirely to corporations yet and not at all at the beginning. We protested what we were unhappy about although we were vilified for doing so. There is always a downside to any period of time. During that period too many people went beyond experimentation with drugs, became addicts and we lost friends to overdoses. Dabbling and recreational use could obviously be taken too far. We unfortunately lacked the access to all the information technology has given access to but we still had a lot of privacy. There was a lot of joy in that era.

[@jamessmith6982]

The only TED talk I need is 2070 Paradigm Shift

[@tylerkruse6239]

20 yrs past the end of us