Teddy Atlas vs Bernard Hopkins 2011-05-27

Teddy and Bernard argue why Bernard was able to school Pascal in their rematch

[@urivan9613]

I don't think it was an argument at all, but an educated debate about boxing.

[@SwagginPenguin]

They were both very respectful

[@notavailable5416]

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[@notoriousfinn6635]

Teddy Atlas favorite Announcer ever!! & best in the WORLD

[@MRIDDLE72]

Notorious Finn he keeps it funky!

[@1saxonwolf]

They are both correct. They both understand boxing very well.

[@kerryholder1635]

They don't like teddy because he exposes everybody Not just the fighters The trainers and the boxing commission and the judges everybody

[@jummacob]

both these guys know boxing. bernard could definitely hang in there with any fighter of any era but teddy is also right when saying there is a lack of fundamentals in boxers today which is being taken adavantage of (and rightfully so) by bernard

[@Chucifer]

They're not disagreeing with anything, they're just repeating each other in different ways while disagreeing lol.

[@fudgebarjohn]

I don't think he's being disrespectful, I think he's just being an honest analyst.

[@Kedbuka]

You gotta' love Bernard...he's a one-of-a-kind talent plus a clever fellow. He cracks me up!

[@pickabar]

No disrespect to Bhop and his wonderful accomplishment, but it's hard to disagree with Teddy. Even the no name fighters from earlier eras had decent technique and knowledge of how to handle different situations in the ring.

[@FlaviusConstantius]

@QRF11B Spot on. Hopkins loves comparing himself to the old timers but the likes of Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles never spent an entire fight whining about imaginary low blows or put on stinkfests like Hopkins does on a regular basis.

[@calvincameron354]

They are actually both right.BHOP makes guys Fight his fight,and as atlas said in a nutshell,his experience in the ring gives him a great edge and thats good too.

[@dagame81790]

Teddy and Bernard should start a podcast.

[@Taylorslade123]

Going by Atlas' way of thinking, we should all just stop watching boxing, because according to him, it is not possible for a modern fighter to do enough to put himself up with the greats of the past, because they fought much more often, sometimes several times a week. Whilst I acknowledge that fighters from that era deserve a massive amount of praise for doing so, it doesn't diminish what a dominant modern fighter can achieve....read on....

[@NYorksElcapitan]

This was a debate a brilliant one at that appreciate it 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@ADZ1LL4]

Bernard just doesn't understand what Atlas is saying. "Your opponents are terrible." "Fight someone with a skillset"

[@666ofdoom]

Lmaooooo

[@tmajec]

Ha! I thought I was the only one who interpreted Teddy the same way. He was trying to be smart by inferring that younger guys don’t really know how to fight 😄

[@Taylorslade123]

And as (at least in my opinion) one of the best things about being a boxing fan, is watching guys go from being young fighters, and go all the way to the top. And as a fight fan, when we watch guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao achieve great things, one of the reasons that watching them do those great thing, is because we want to see what heights they can go to, and waiting to see the next all time great fighter join the legends of history is a big part of it, but Atlas thinks that cant happen.

[@TheRmm1976]

This was a rare instance when Teddy was wrong, and frankly he comes across as disrespectful in trying to downplay Hopkins' achievements. Hopkins was incredibly gifted and what he did at his age was amazing. Props to Hopkins for not going off on Teddy in this interview, and just agreeing to disagree.

[@chayilel9804]

Teddy cannot argue, because he's not in the ring beating young guys, no matter the skill level... These youngins still have reflexes, speed etc. over aging fighters; B-Hop is legendary, and he was right, no matter the era he would still hold his own. I agree with u villa1991

[@SonnyBoyBall]

Good shit can appreciate both points of view

[@peakingmantis5331]

I just became a better fighter after listening to this.

[@CenturianEagle]

Two badasses. it's ok to disagree with someone, and you don't have to change others' opinions when you know they differ from your own all the time, that said it made for an entertaining talk but I hope neither of these guys felt emotionally charged or invested and I hope neither one of them felt like a the victor or the loser as it's just an discussion/debate

[@Taylorslade123]

When you hear Atlas talk, it's no surprise that a lot of people today, like casual boxing fans that only watch the superfights, or the "take it or leave it" fans, or the mainstream media in general, and also the everyday guy on the street who doesnt know any better, when you hear him talk like this, it's no wonder that they all think that fighters today can't fight for shit, and that they are no good guys now, and that the top guys are just the best of a bad bunch. He is so negative its unreal

[@carrrexx7190]

Hopkins, great middle weight. As he how got older and heavier he became a pro wrestler.

[@Tracywithafacey]

Teddy is almost saying that on that night, Pascal was totally different and rubbish where he clearly was not before. You gotta realise Teddy that that is to with Bernard, he made him do what he wanted, he wound him up, he got him frustrated so he was throwing wide punches. This fight was psychological as well as physical, and Bernard won that part easily.

[@latinoamerica1822]

I really would like to know how the hell Bradley lost so shamefully against Pac when he had such a master of the craft and coach who I'm sure gave him so much wisdom and clarity about how to fight properly and win.

[@kapayako145]

His reasoning is very much a reflection of who he is, trying find significance of a by gone era...himself. Though he is entitled with his opinion, he is simply trying to get a spotlight thrown in his direction and not to the re-emergence of the sports. Boxing had its fair share of decline. Now, it is enjoying great momentum no thanks to very athletes he is trying desperately to put down and throw under the bus by not giving them credit they deserve.

[@cmonhitme419]

look at teddys smile drop from the start

[@tongwu]

@leon170184 I personally do not think that Teddy was being disrespectful. All he is trying to say is that if Bernard fought in a more competitive era e.g. Haggler, Hearn and leonard era, when people fought more often. Then he would not last as long. Fighters today do not possess the same level of basic fundlemental skills, when compared with previous generations. As a result, Hopkins, who is an old school fighter, is able to look good against young fighters.

[@JimmyJocksAye]

I think that I agree with teddy that pascal is not a level with Bernard in terms of boxing technique and ability. Pascal is a world class operator but remember he is a small light heavyweight and if you look at the fighters that Bernard has exposed it has been super middleweights in the wrong division. Bhopal is a legend but teddy has a point in some respects.

[@drejuan1]

Unlike Larry Merchant... at least Teddy Atlas shows when to listen.

[@stcomerford]

Bernard that is the strategy of the science, you got it.

[@0Shane13]

Bernard at 46 does not beat a prime James Toney, a prime Roy Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles

[@0Shane13]

Archie Moore? Ezzard Charles? Go look on wikipedia real quick

[@gypsykatcher3090]

We cant say that until its happening, and it hasnt and wont happen because your throwing theories out there. Look, we can talk theories all night long, but we work on realities. Reality is, bernard hopkins is owning the division at 46. Thats impressive and he will go down as a legend, despite what others may argue.

[@0Shane13]

The reality is a prime Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Roy Jones, and James Toney were more impressive

[@gypsykatcher3090]

I dont believe in comparing people of different eras, its impossible to say. Every time has different challenges, developments of style factors etc etc. Teddy Atlas is a boxing encyclopedia and I understand where hes coming from, but at the same time, you cant take anythign away from Hopkins and I kinda feel hes moving towards that.

[@TheBTranz]

He couldn't beat Roy Jones when they were both I their prime lol

[@teth-adam]

The level of Boxing IQ in this debate is so high...we need these guys to pass on these lessons.

[@damage915]

Teddy always tells the truth just like when he exposed Pacquiao and top rank. Boxing sucks now day to many paper belts being a world champion dont mean shit in boxing no more.

[@662292]

I agree with teddy after watching the dawson fight it proved him right.

[@leon170184]

Complete disrespect by Teddy Atlas, I don't care what he has to say, Hopkins has his spot in history and nothing teddy can do about that.

[@johnblalock5786]

I like Teddy Atlas, but come on man stop trying to talk down Bernard's victory!

[@boxfancb]

Foreman will always be ahead in that age comparison because of the time he was away from the sport. Big G will remain the biggest comeback in boxing because of it. You can't just be away for decades and come back to beat a prime Michael Moorer. What he did was close to imposible.

[@danielsarn3823]

Teddy always seems to get in trouble because he tells the truth in a sport full of lies, And B-Hop is B-Hop what more can you say about him.

[@MrCaribou55]

Shots fired

[@teamgitusome]

they are both right and they both know it

[@JLPC13]

There's not enough Teddy Atlas' in this world

[@beginnerbusinessmen745]

what is it with boxers talking in 3rd person?

[@pearcemark2]

@TimeSplittersChimp Make him miss everything he throws, knock him down, counter with hard shots all night, and lose a robbery decision because HBO wants to set up what they thought would be a big money fight in Calzaghe vs Jones? Yeah, Hopkins is pretty amazing.

[@papagunz45]

When Atlas is wrong, he will discredit the fighter before he ever acknowledges he was wrong.He did it with Pacquiao and now he's doing it with Hopkins. Atlas plays favorites.

[@Khaos969]

Hopkins will be remembered for centuries ..... hes one year short of 50 .... its just unreal.... his black genes are on another level....

[@ImranAli-tm3rq]

his defensive and technical style more than anything..

[@notoriousfinn6635]

Who is in Boxing today?? Just like Teddy Atlas is saying... Would a 46 now Hopkins is 50 this would never happen years ago. Boxing is turning into a joke, it's the truth & that's what's Teddy is trying to say.

[@ImranAli-tm3rq]

Big Redd it's business more than anything..famous names choosing opponents that can help increase their brand..hopkins never fought ward or any top names in a long time..he fought that kovalev and got exposed showing that he is well past it..and at his age being at the top as long as he has been..he should hang em up..

[@Khaos969]

Imran hud u smoking crack.... the guy has fought everyone... u mention one fighter Ward and u call him a cherry picker... u must be crazy man... when your 50 your be sitting in an armchair talking about when u were in your twenties not owning fit 20 something elite fighters

[@ImranAli-tm3rq]

Khaos969 read my comment again.."in a long time" i said..hopkins iant done shit since 2004...he should have retired then when he was in his late 30s..after 40 it's decline mode dude..

[@cooljc26]

What Teddy Atlas is saying makes a lot of sense because these guys like Pascal are really not good solid fighters who have not learn the fundamentals of boxing like B-hop has. That's why B-hop is a master at what he does. He has mastered the craft where as these younger guys have not mastered the craft. B-hop is not making these guys fight the way he wants them to fight, this is the way they fight all the time. B-hop is the master schooling the students who are not on his level.

[@knowun]

Shop needed to humble himself here.

[@banana-ooo-bytesme1849]

Teddy Atlas got a lot of hate. He's an ex-convict from Riker's Island and he went to jail for beating his own sister. Nice choice ESPN, a Disney company; very wholesome indeed.

[@hawkermustang]

Ward vs B-Hop at 175.

[@Murcans-worship-felons]

How can you agree so disagreeably?

[@MrCharlieBananas]

Who won this debate?

[@earth7551]

Teddy Atlas

[@bjjsalzberry13]

Bernard Hopkins doesn't get what Atlas is trying to say....

[@BraintemOrg]

Atlas is trying to put him down, he had to keep coming back. He was doing the right thing.

[@georgegreig8054]

Hopkins doesn't WANT to understand what atlas is saying.

[@TimeSplittersChimp]

well lets be fair, he was rude to say this on tv like this when he could have said it in person off camera, but Teddy is 100% correct. Bernard beat a guy who is slow, uses no jap and throws wild punches that even an armature boxer doesn't throw. Pascal was a paper champion and we seen what Bernard does at this age against a proven champion in Calzaghe.

[@arsenalfanrichi]

They're both right, I think Atlas is a little bit demeaning about Hopkins ability, Regardless of being 46/47/48 he would always be an extremely tough fight for anyone in any era in any weight. Whereas Atlas implied he was only competitive because of the weakness of the divisions nowadays. I Respect both of them though

[@kelkin1234]

Real debate will agree with teddy to certain extent but both made good points

[@HSVIRK]

teddy's right.... but you gotta give it up to bernard..... chad's know's how to control range, he's got a jab and is a solid all-round boxer but still couldn't handle pascal.... bernard brought him down to his level.... he's a master at that, that's why people all ways think bernard's boring, because he can alter his opponents style - he'll make exciting boxer's fight tense and cagey.... sure pascal threw wide punches, but who throw's straighter punches than kelly pavlik? dawson look out!

[@adon2424]

ROTFL ! ... These two guys are so full of it! Their egos are too big for a compromising conversation. They are both saying the same thing but neither will accept the others position. Neither will accept the other's position, because of genuine hatred, or ego.

[@gsimon123]

They are both right...

[@WilRockQ]

Sorry, Teddy, but do you think Pascal sucks? If not why did he fight differently against Bhop? Hopkins beat everyone in that division except Kovalev. Teddy sounded a little sour grapes on this one because he had to eat a little humble pie.

[@jonesybonesy46]

cohenhaywood10 joe calzaghe fought twice at the weight too i think ,and also beat hopkins

[@myblock]

If Teddy knew all this about Pascal going into the fight. Why did he pick Pascal to win?

[@TheMattpayne2010]

An he was right on everything he said!

[@tooakki]

Well Mr. Atlis is absolutely right, you're only as good your competition. It would be an entirely different story if Mayweather, Jones Jr, Hopkins fought in the 70's or 80's era when it was MONSTERS in the ring like, Hagler, Herns, Sugar Ray, Iran Barkley, young De la hoya, Julio cesar chavez, Hector macho camacho, and so many more gorillas. I respect all fighters but Mr. Hopkins is a dirty fighter who flops and pretends... But those are some sweet ass glasses he's wearing!

[@Jdinero207]

Teddy aint hating,the truth seems to have these fans butt hurt.He's just stating his opinion a very strong one I might say but right.The truth hurts.All the credit in the world to hopkins,but today's weak era make hopkins/floyd look like gods were in a golden era they'd be just one of many good fighters.

[@tony29051]

Hopkins is a genius and Teddy just cannot accept that he is wrong!

[@thatbronzeboij]

That’s not at all what happened; you don’t pay attention 😂 LOL

[@damagejackal10]

Wow! Teddy's voice is louder than the Metallica song blazing in the background.

[@Mjolbaggar]

So Atlas is saying Boxers nowdays cant box. Or what is he saying?

[@testostyrone33]

Seems to me that Atlas was either alluding to Hopkins's fights being fixed, or the era being weak. Whatever the case, he marginalized Hopkins's success in the ring.

[@imadeyoureadthis1500]

Testos Tyrone he’s saying that Bernard’s opponents are weak

[@svp2010]

I dont think Teddy was being negative at all; you have two men who KNOW boxing very well commenting on the lack of talent and skill today in boxing. I think Teddy is more negative on the how fighters today DONT know the fundamentals of boxing not so much negative on Hopkins. What Teddy what was saying are things that I do incorrectly when I box (I started 10 months ago) and we have pros doing the same incorrect things NOW! That's not good....

[@matangox]

He called Bernard a "good, solid fighter". Bernard is more than that, he's a special all time great fighter with a bunch of records to his name! Teddy was trying to put him down.

[@AdamHitmanHoff]

At the time of this video Hopkins was no longer a special fighter and was fighting opponents that weren't great so what Teddy was saying was true!

[@chayilel9804]

Teddy Atlas is totally wrong - It doesn't matter who U R, for someone at that age to go in and defeat these young, strong, fast lions is incredible... No matter their skill level; old Roy Jones or Evander Holyfied couldn't do it, hell, not even the Great Ali - to be in ur 40's and to best young champs is phenomenal...

[@duftyboxing]

@ReignSupreme287 he lost his cred too people inside boxing a l-o-o-o-ong time ago. too bad cause at one time he was well respected.

[@tooakki]

"Mr. Atlas"

[@cujo905]

Respect both guys, but let's be real. B-hop is a dirty fighter, smart but dirty. Im happy for him though to finally get the respect he so long deserved. He didn't get it until the Trinidad fight IMO. But most of his fights are not exciting, very boring actually.

[@holmes1978]

HOPKINS is correct !!!

[@calikidz1164]

If that was all true teddy shd be able to do it then he makesxit sound so ez

[@Donflorgon]

Im surprised at Teddy. Seemed unnecessary. Do they have a personal beef?

[@Taylorslade123]

I used to have respect for Teddy Atlas, but now after hearing all of the bullshit he has said latley, that respect is long gone. I don't know what his problem with Pacquiao is, but it's clear to see he has something against him that is outside of how he rates him as a fighter. Of course, everyone knows about how he went on national TV and spoke about those emails and the whole drug issue when he had no right at all to do so. Pacquiao should take him to court along with the Mayweathers.

[@loughran03]

no benard, glasses don"t make you look smarter.

[@TheMattpayne2010]

He can argue because hes a scola on boxing!

[@MrJerryking27]

atlas should go to the mental hospital. lol

[@maaudiosubs]

Agree with teddy that he is a good 46 year old fighter. But he is not great any more and the people hes beating are not all the great.

[@kefkapalazzo1]

lol they're both right

[@metroshot2]

pascal does suck but hopkins did school pavlik only 3 years earlier. they both have a point.

[@BiGLoS2212]

Teddys acting like Larry Merchant lol

[@Marvellous.Misfit]

Comparisons of a great athlete or athletes of a different era is pointless, except 4 the fact there were never as much performance enhancement drugs & video footage of so so many great fighters 2 study. Comparing Royce Gracie to George Saint Pierre or Micheal Jordan to Koby Briant or Sugar Ray Leonard to Floyd Mayweather, betrays truth, U do what U have 2 do 2 win when faced with the competition that is put before U, the more recent champions were inspired by footage of the past champions.

[@tupumanu6511]

Teddy Atlas is outta his league on this one...as a fighter he was garbage..Hopkins at 46 beat a champion at 28 regardless of his skill that aint Hopkins fault, i mean the dude he beat was a champion for a reason..

[@leon170184]

how did Pascal beat Dawson if Pascal is such a bad fighter Teddy. How did Dawson beat Tarver, these fighters must be so bad Teddy. SHOW SOME RESPECT TEDDY. LOOKS EASY ON THE OUTSIDE. U SHOULD FIGHT THESE GUYS TEDDY, U SHOULD TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE SHORTCOMINGS TEDDY, IF IT IS THAT EASY.

[@johnapperson7495]

LETS SEE IF BHOP WOULD FIGHT KOVALEV AND WIN? I DOUBT IT

[@Curtizoo]

im puttin $200 on bernard

[@Curtizoo]

***** got paid the week after so no harm no foul....suck us off

[@Curtizoo]

***** i don't care what you "think" you know

[@Curtizoo]

***** u still goin on.....not going to waste perfect punctuation or "spellin" on a youtube comment

[@Curtizoo]

not going to try prove my intelligence for your benefit....could care less u fat fuck

[@DiegoVT91]

Man, Atlas knows boxing no taking that away from him but he is such a negative person

[@kerryholder1635]

Everytime I look at boxing comments somebody's talking stupid Teddy atlas is one of the best trainers ever He trained Mike Tyson He learned from customers definitely one of the greatest trainers ever back when boxing was boxing All these fighters cherry pick pick fights Hagler fought everybody Matter of fact sugar Ray Robinson fought everybody more than once with more rounds

[@CWeaveLyrical]

+Kerry Holder He was there with Custamato training Tyson. lol he didn't single-handedly do ANYTHING for Tyson.

[@DizGuys]

I like both these guys and respect their boxing knowledge, but they can be quite dogmatic in their communication. No room to bend on anything.

[@Artistboxing]

9 years later pascal is once again a title holder . So how bad was he really ? Atlas is just a hater

[@neilgoldring4832]

There just chattin' that's all.

[@dannonmcknight7819]

Bernard thinks he's just the biggest talent in the world, well no disrespect at all Bernard cause I have a style like you and Ward. But you are not in the same league physically than most of these fighters or in 2011. Floyd Mayweather isn't at it welterweight. Teddy is right guys like you Floyd, etc have a skill level that surpasses every fighter today, there's nothing wrong with that. Had you have no skill you'd be looking like Roy my favorite fighter. You're not gonna put a 28 year old you vs 40 year old you cause of the physical side. the skill is there on both sides but the physical side will prevail cause youre not there. These fighters physicality is there but the skill is not and that's why you are who you are cause the skill, it showed vs sergey kovalev as well.

[@johnapperson7495]

KOVALEV IS THE TRUE CHAMPION RHAT ADONIS IS AVOIDING

[@MrBlewis01]

teddy talking shit lets see him do the same thing/ you got to give props to BH thats it

[@ajp135212]

i like teddy buts hes hating big time

[@leon170184]

@ESSENCEOFEACHTHING U R 100% WRONG

[@aliensantana4645]

Teddy is drunk 😵 guy