A Better PRX For A Similar Price? - Certina DS-7 Review

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Teddy Baldassarre

Teddy Baldassarre

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@ToxicImmobilizer
@ToxicImmobilizer 10 ай бұрын
PRX is seeing some increased competition; first the citizen tsuyosa, and now this. Great to see quality options emerge in the market
@waffle911
@waffle911 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget The Twelve from CW for those wanting and willing to spend for a bit more than what PRX offers; puts the squeeze on the premium charged for the PRX Powermatic.
@NCSheriff7
@NCSheriff7 10 ай бұрын
@@waffle911Dont forget the Casio Edifice EFR-S108D Collection in tiffany, green, blue, black, white for about 100 euros...those are valuemonster
@JustTryingToGetAYTPlayButton
@JustTryingToGetAYTPlayButton 10 ай бұрын
@@waffle911the twelve from christopher ward has a cheaper movement though
@Hrethgir
@Hrethgir 10 ай бұрын
I guess it's technically competition, but with the same movement family inside and both owned by the same parent company, I feel like this is more a PRX for markets where Certina is the more popular option.
@danielcooke9974
@danielcooke9974 10 ай бұрын
The 12 ti is even better, same designer of v the prx
@Деазнам
@Деазнам 10 ай бұрын
With my wife we have a total of 4 certina watches (so far) in a collection of many other brands - Certina is always our go-to for design, quality and overall value.
@Деазнам
@Деазнам 10 ай бұрын
@@bluesh0es Yup, DS-1 Big Date 60th Anniversary
@jaaqqo
@jaaqqo 10 ай бұрын
Finally Certina, yes very underrated and a rare sight on watch channels. Another brand you seldom see on these videos is Eterna.
@jrgdrumsandwatches
@jrgdrumsandwatches 10 ай бұрын
Eterna was once a great brand bit infortunately they haven't done really well in the past 10 years. It's a shame considering their history.
@ultra-potato
@ultra-potato 10 ай бұрын
I'm quite surprised that Eterna still exists in 2024. They just disappeared some years ago and haven't come back yet.
@slimelord314
@slimelord314 10 ай бұрын
Great video Teddy. I had a cool idea for a video series that others might like as well. It would be to highlight watchmaking in different regions/countries. Basically you pick a region/country and find definitive watches for different price points
@jrgdrumsandwatches
@jrgdrumsandwatches 10 ай бұрын
Great video Teddy. I bought the DS-7 black dial a few months ago and I really like it. Yes Certina is my favorite brand and I like the style so I had to get it. I have both quartz and auto PRX models but the Certina is a more modern take. Even if the Tissot looks more flashy and is very well finished, the Certina feels more premium and you have to hold it in hands to see it. The case finish feels so smooth, no sharp egdes, very comfortable. The crystal has more anti reflecting coating and the bezel is much more complex. You pay a bit more but yes you get a bit more in my opinion. Also some don't like Tissot's Powermatic 80 23 jewels version you get with the PRX. And thanks for adressing the movement confusion, many still mixing Powermatic with the Swatch System51 for some reason. I guess when other famous KZbinrs give false informations for years about this it doesn't help (yes talking to you, Tristano)
@Seajay2016
@Seajay2016 10 ай бұрын
Isn't it hard to service the movement?
@jrgdrumsandwatches
@jrgdrumsandwatches 10 ай бұрын
@@Seajay2016 I had one of mine serviced from an independent watchmaker but he didn't have to replace parts. Still most of the parts are identical to the 2824-2 so if it doesn't need replacement of a Powermatic specific part it shouldn't be a big deal.
@theONEwatches713
@theONEwatches713 10 ай бұрын
Great taste as always Teddy. I’m a huge fan of Certina. Recently I posted a video about them also, though yours is a million times better 😂.
@BAF605
@BAF605 10 ай бұрын
Nice alternative. I'm still wishing that Swatch Group had left an easily adjustable regulation lever (as on ETA 2824) when they introduced the eighty hour pr movements. It's telling that Tissot used a 2824 on their recent heritage 1938 chronometer reissue.
@waffle911
@waffle911 10 ай бұрын
At 39mm it hardly splits the difference between the PRX 40 and 35. 37 is probably what a lot of us is looking for.
@rodniki14
@rodniki14 Ай бұрын
I bought a Certina because a sales guy told me they can take a beating. My DS Sport was purchased in 2012 and I have beaten it up, fishing, carpentry. It's scratched and won't quit.
@altukhov
@altukhov 10 ай бұрын
Powermatic 80 does great in my Tissot Gentleman (Silicium).. -2 sec per day
@kamilkeyboardplayer7419
@kamilkeyboardplayer7419 4 ай бұрын
Accuracy of this movement is max +/- 8 s per day, so where is the problem?
@greenjihad3390
@greenjihad3390 10 ай бұрын
These are great looking watches and they look like they're solidly made. Very informative video too. I may have to keep these on my radar. I think they look more unique than the PRX.
@JDinHNL
@JDinHNL 5 ай бұрын
PRX was awesome... was. Great to see this style, delivers on what PRX initially offered. And Certini - a brand I've wanted but don't own... yet. 😀
@filipl5490
@filipl5490 10 ай бұрын
Its quite funny because certina is very very popular here in sweden, but it is also a very popular brand in norway as well
@mancwatches
@mancwatches 10 ай бұрын
This beats the prx for me, I recently wore the blue DS-7 for a while and loved it. Underrated.
@bjarkelykkemadsen2874
@bjarkelykkemadsen2874 10 ай бұрын
I have seen them all live. Maybe because I am from Denmark (EU). They are very nice - looks to me like you get a lot of watch for the money. The Titanium with the blue dial stands out because that blue is much stronger / striking than you might expect.
@speedracer2please
@speedracer2please 10 ай бұрын
Man. Certina has so many sick designs in perfect sizes for smaller wrists, but I can't find any in the NY area and I'd like to try on any watch before ordering one. Maybe I just have to take a trip to Cleveland.
@andrejohnson6731
@andrejohnson6731 10 ай бұрын
They are a bit harder to find in North America, same issue here in Montreal, Quebec
@speedracer2please
@speedracer2please 10 ай бұрын
@@andrejohnson6731 I haven't even seen them in Asia or South America, somehow I never travel anywhere they retail :/
@apenay
@apenay 10 ай бұрын
Teddy, I'm always curious about which watch you have on in each video. While stating in each video what is on wrist may not be something you want to do, I think having it in the description would be great. It'll give ppl an idea of how a particular watch wears naturally on a person with similar sized wrist. And I think ppl in general would like to know what you wear and what's in your collection. ;-) But seriously, the size for reference would be great from a zoomed out view.
@micaljimenez7381
@micaljimenez7381 10 ай бұрын
Very nice watch,looks very good and finishing realy precious...at the same price than prx i go for the certina who is also a brand with good reputation and old historical...
@Watchmade
@Watchmade 10 ай бұрын
Tried the PRX and Tsuyosa. Sold them both. The 40mm & case shape was way too big for my 17,5cm. Plus this particular genre & style demands a more elegant look, that you can not provide, if you offer a bigger case design. Now I am very happy with my light blue Certina DS 7! You can click the endlinks even down and reduce the lug to lug span & the case design on the edges feels more „correct“ than on a PRX.
@arviter91
@arviter91 10 ай бұрын
Congrats on 1M Teddy!
@rolandlickert2904
@rolandlickert2904 10 ай бұрын
For me, Certina looks better but it is a personal decision!
@paulbugoni2846
@paulbugoni2846 10 ай бұрын
Need to see a review of the new Tsoyosa small seconds….this is nice.
@cy9nvs
@cy9nvs 10 ай бұрын
The Titanium version, with the Powermatic 80, costs under 1000€, where I live, that's crazy. Might actually get one, this watch wasn't on my radar at all! I'm also glad they're using the better version of the Powermatic 80, without the plastic escapement, contrary to the PRX.
@charlesmcclune8892
@charlesmcclune8892 10 ай бұрын
I already have the PRX Tiffany Dial so I would have to see the Certina in person and maybe go for the Titanium option 😎
@aymanchogle6075
@aymanchogle6075 10 ай бұрын
Almost 1 million subscribers. 🎉
@turnbasedtoddy7664
@turnbasedtoddy7664 10 ай бұрын
Super cool dials but I think it’s a little un-proportional because it’s all dial, which looks weird on an integrated bracelet watch
@Shanksy346
@Shanksy346 6 ай бұрын
I’ve had a prx and own this certina. Certina is amazing
@rdmkara
@rdmkara 10 ай бұрын
Let's be honest, no one can beat the PRX, especially the automatic version, in that price segment, even watches that are a few thousand dollars more expensive. Why? 1) Bracelet quality is almost at the same level as luxury watches, I even claim it is better than SMP 300 ugly bracelet, oyster bracelet etc. 2) The mechanism may be low 3hz beat , but this watch keeps time very well, it did not deviate even 1 minute on my wrist in a month. 3) The brand, yes it is not as cool as luxury brands, but Tissot is a really nice watch brand with a good history. 4) Leather strap and rubber strap offer options suitable for all seasons and tastes. 5) It is versatile 6) Yes, this is a characteristic watch that deserves to be included in a distinguished collection. 7) It has excellent finishing on its case and bracelet. 8) The anti-reflection coating on the sapphire glass has a high-level coating. Brands need to work much better to compete with this watch.
@paulc9588
@paulc9588 10 ай бұрын
Yes, this offering from Certina is OK but falls short of the PRX in terms of aesthetic appeal and bang for buck. I got my PRX in December and wear it more than anything else . . . Longines and Oris included. Everything else looks boring in comparison, including this DS-7.
@KC-bv9kf
@KC-bv9kf 10 ай бұрын
I have been collecting for over 20 years with over 100 pieces currently, agnostic to price and brands. I have the ice blue 40 mm prx and 40 mm nordic blue cw twelve. Except for the movement, the prx is a level or two below the cw. The movement is not important to me because when I look at my wrist, 2 s/d difference is inconsequential. The sharp underfinished case and bracelet, especially the sharp underside, with flatter lugs, and clasps hot spots are some revealing differences. The prx is good and probably segment leader for integrated under 1k (gently used for around 450 usd). However, approaching 1k, the cw and the f77 have to be the first choices. Additionally, I have the blue ds 2, and the ds case of Certina has to be factor to consider for a beater. I am looking at my 4 integrated (prx, cw, atelier wen, and 15550) now and the cw is the best bang for the buck. Imho
@Mr_Lorazepam
@Mr_Lorazepam 10 ай бұрын
9) Its one of the ugliest watches aviable
@rdmkara
@rdmkara 10 ай бұрын
@@Mr_Lorazepam This is your own personal opinion, the sales figures and the success it has created show that your argument is limited to you and not about general people's preference.
@RudyG01
@RudyG01 10 ай бұрын
This is Teddy's 911 video and he's gonna reach 1M in a few days, I think I know what the congratulatory gift is gonna be :)
@LoriHauck
@LoriHauck 10 ай бұрын
Sounds cool! I'm glad to hear that Teddy's video is about to hit 1 million views. That's a major milestone to celebrate. As for the congratulatory gifts
@thebritishindian1
@thebritishindian1 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never liked the PRX, but these look way better
@darrenhojnacki6636
@darrenhojnacki6636 10 ай бұрын
Good video. Wish you would do one on the DS2
@GreatBearWatchClub
@GreatBearWatchClub 10 ай бұрын
Not a fan of this style in general, but I always really appreciate the balanced perspective Teddy gives!
@gentlewolf
@gentlewolf 10 ай бұрын
To me, the 1888 on the dial is one of its drivers. looks great. I seem to recall viewing a pretty Certina without the 1888 and was like, nah...too much lost appeal.
@delonteeast7955
@delonteeast7955 10 ай бұрын
Same exact thought
@eme1ec
@eme1ec 10 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your 1M subs!
@skiparsenal
@skiparsenal 10 ай бұрын
This is interesting but I think you could make another video with Certina's new GMTs
@fastdays_1
@fastdays_1 10 ай бұрын
I know it costs more but the CW Twelve is still the king of integrated bracelets under 2k. Outstanding value for money, great design, amazing details, great finish overall. It gets a lot of attention on the wrist without being tacky or flashy. I own one and it's really one of my best buy recently.
@Lolwhodis
@Lolwhodis 10 ай бұрын
Congrats on 1M subs!
@Midniteburger
@Midniteburger 10 ай бұрын
Ah, I hoped it would have a screw down crown. Even if it isn’t necessarily needed for water resistance, a screw down crown still provides a feeling of security. Mido TV Big Date has a screw down crown for example.
@WhiteOSO1229
@WhiteOSO1229 10 ай бұрын
Would the Canadian website offer Certina watches soon ?
@davidobrien9362
@davidobrien9362 Ай бұрын
Just been the D.S 2 ,just a great watch at really good price,always tell how good,tough a watch is by looking at older watches still in circulation, condition,dial,crystal,how well they still look DS 2'S are the Benjamin Button of watches .quality .for the money .
@slamminsammy24sw
@slamminsammy24sw 10 ай бұрын
CONGRATS ON THE 1M SUBCRIBERS
@racing7782
@racing7782 10 ай бұрын
Very nice watch and as usual awesome review. I dont see how it competes with PRX as the case design is pretty different. Only similarity is the integrated bracelet but I dont see how it competes anymore than any other watch in the price point. BTW the PRX design style is awesome no matter how fatigued people may be about it..
@arthurgifford1476
@arthurgifford1476 10 ай бұрын
Does anybody know if Certina still uses that shock absorber around the movement as part of the “DS” system? I read some places they still use it, and other places they don’t use it anymore .
@thetattedpharmacist3215
@thetattedpharmacist3215 10 ай бұрын
Teddy can you please start letting us know whether the bracelets are pin, pin & collar or screw adjusted? Thanks!
@paulc9588
@paulc9588 10 ай бұрын
Good review. I really like Certina and feel that their watches look and feel a little more premium than equivalent Tissot offerings . . . then again they usually cost slightly more. You hit the nail on the head with the character comment. The DS-7 is a nice watch but to me the design doesn't have the same coherence as the PRX or indeed some of Certina's other offerings . . . I would maybe pick one up at the right price but not a 'must have' like the PRX.
@Spectrecontrol
@Spectrecontrol 10 ай бұрын
When are you coming to Australia Teddy?
@watchout247
@watchout247 10 ай бұрын
I'd personally say it comes very close but I'd still give the money to Tissot. The PRX imo was a pure home run and like you said... It sorta pays to come first. Great review as always mate.
@kyleweber9760
@kyleweber9760 10 ай бұрын
It is a stunner, I prefer the Certinas looks...
@ivarsrakevics3261
@ivarsrakevics3261 10 ай бұрын
What titanium grade is used in titanium version, grade 2 or grade 5?
@Agavesyrupisgood
@Agavesyrupisgood 10 ай бұрын
What do you think about laarve watch ?❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@rc7016
@rc7016 10 ай бұрын
Was actually looking at this watch on your site but apparently you don't ship it to Canada?
@jlzab6914
@jlzab6914 10 ай бұрын
👍🏻 Pourriez-vous faire une revue de la Certina DS2. Merci.
@russtygee
@russtygee 10 ай бұрын
I like the bracelet on this more than my prx & that it's available in titanium too. But I think the dial & how the case transitions into the bracelet is much nicer on the PRX. Plus lets face it, that waffle dial has become iconic! Long story short- It's a good contender & a great choice for many, but I'm happy with my prx.
@MichaelWillems
@MichaelWillems 10 ай бұрын
Wait: so a Powermatic with no plastic components? Am I hearing that right?
@jacobdenick6385
@jacobdenick6385 10 ай бұрын
Completely off topic for this video but I thought I would ask in the newest posted video. Why isn't Seiko astron of interest as far as your channel is concerned. And if they are why haven't you done any videos on them?
@slumplump
@slumplump 10 ай бұрын
So you can now pick between 2 integrated swatch watches
@drnick40
@drnick40 10 ай бұрын
No doubt a better value than the PRX. It looks better IMHO. The titanium version is a killer!
@JoeDezibel74
@JoeDezibel74 10 ай бұрын
What about the DS-1 are they any good?
@evacaridad
@evacaridad 10 ай бұрын
Teddy can you talk about the Citizen Tsuki-yomi A-T ATOMIC TIMEKEEPING MOON PHASE because its by far my favorite watch under citizen.
@matB123
@matB123 10 ай бұрын
Prx still looks more premium!
@salvadorHombre
@salvadorHombre 10 ай бұрын
Way more premium looking. This one looks like a Citizen Tsuyosa with different proportions. The PRX's dial is way better.
@Dazulolwarrior
@Dazulolwarrior 10 ай бұрын
Yea and the prx is the looks good outside, is garbage inside. Id rather get the quartz
@salvadorHombre
@salvadorHombre 10 ай бұрын
@@Dazulolwarrior is this about the plastic parts? Because you should know that these movements are easily serviceable at a low price from Tissot. Nobody has reported the nylon parts inside the watch breaking so far. It's just watch nerds making a mountain out of a molehill. The only weakness this calibre is known to have is that hand winding it too often can damage it (causing spinning rotor syndrome). But that's hardly a dealbreaker. The ETA C07.111 and C07.611 are solid movements and the people hating on it are largely misinformed.
@KingAdjust
@KingAdjust 10 ай бұрын
The plastic spacer is the problem not the watch or movement itself
@ehrenkrause9861
@ehrenkrause9861 10 ай бұрын
I agree they could have done a little better with making the dials pop
@hilmisn8547
@hilmisn8547 10 ай бұрын
Why don’t you review Mathey Tissot? Does MT doesn’t good enough to compare with? What’s your opinion?
@AldoFelt
@AldoFelt 10 ай бұрын
Love Certina.
@denis888red
@denis888red 10 ай бұрын
Good shout for anyone with a non-large budget but who wants something cool and authentic on their wrist.
@vancesnyder5181
@vancesnyder5181 10 ай бұрын
Another possibility would be the Maen. Similar price range with an integrated bracelet.
@Chilecote
@Chilecote 10 ай бұрын
Got a prx got a tsuyosa can't get my hands on one of these looks pretty nice in the vids.🤷🏽‍♂️
@joelopic
@joelopic 10 ай бұрын
Nice watch. Nicer than the Rolex OP to be honest
@lemon265
@lemon265 10 ай бұрын
I really try to like this one and it for sure is not a bad watch! But... I feel like the bracelet tapers too early and too much, this way the round case somehow doesnt look right to me. Definitely a worthy oponent for the PRX though and I think it just comes down to preference (as almost always)
@karicdarko
@karicdarko 10 ай бұрын
Do a pr516 tissot review when you find time
@chorseundgrd
@chorseundgrd 10 ай бұрын
I love titanium. Light, soft on the skin, very lowkey and not flashy. I prefer lighter watches. I know some people love heavy watches but I'm not one of them.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 7 ай бұрын
I like Certina watches but I want not the Powermatic 80 innards but an ETA Precidrive quartz, roughly +-10 seconds a year. But I’m weird.
@GabeFelix-uy2dt
@GabeFelix-uy2dt 10 ай бұрын
So regarding the esthetics, I think the bracelet in the certain is nicer the dial colors I actually like more. But the prx I just think overall, when you look at it ...looks more unique
@fossilfern
@fossilfern 10 ай бұрын
I really like Certina. I had a Multi 8 and I quite liked it. Sadly I left it at my ex girlfriends house.... wont be getting that back.
@Robert-vw3od
@Robert-vw3od 10 ай бұрын
The problem is the swatch group have really downgraded some of the brands longines for instance should really be a brand up there with Rolex omega and certina should really be a premium diving Watch
@justreallybored6014
@justreallybored6014 10 ай бұрын
Is it worth it to invest in a "gold" watch? It seems that watch manufacturers increase the cost of the watch way higher than the market value of the metals used. I really think you could do an in depth analysis of this. Add on top of that the diamonds and stones. It seems they take a $1k stone and sell it for 5k when its on a watch.
@Swiss_Army_Knife1780
@Swiss_Army_Knife1780 10 ай бұрын
This is actually nice.
@DarthMalaks_Missing_Lower_Jaw
@DarthMalaks_Missing_Lower_Jaw 10 ай бұрын
Underrated brand in the US but popular in Europe.
@CK46263
@CK46263 10 ай бұрын
1 million subs here we come
@Angry_Gnome
@Angry_Gnome 10 ай бұрын
This one wins on the movement. The PRX has a plastic escapement, the Certina does not.
@paraknasish
@paraknasish 10 ай бұрын
1M subs coming up 👀
@thomascromaz369
@thomascromaz369 10 ай бұрын
Waited for that vid for months! Thx! But finally I‘m not buying, I would compare the design more to Christopher Ward Twelve.
@chuckc042000
@chuckc042000 10 ай бұрын
1M subs let’s goooo!
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 10 ай бұрын
Ok. I want one.
@Dazulolwarrior
@Dazulolwarrior 10 ай бұрын
Im glad that the movement inside isnt the garbage that is the prx powermatic 80
@urbanracer032
@urbanracer032 10 ай бұрын
Look at the dial, its a Powermatic 80. It's the same one, Nivachron hair spring and all.
@danigomb
@danigomb 10 ай бұрын
never understood PRS valuation
@krishall4861
@krishall4861 9 ай бұрын
See, I’m a Tissot fan and I just think they are finished slightly better. Very comparable but, as a little example, the date window on the PRX is framed, whereas the Certina is just cut out. It’s the little details…
@mikezq8ss
@mikezq8ss 10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but this looks miles better than the PRX. That awkward flat lip running around the entire case on the PRX has always looked terrible IMO.
@AMAMBT
@AMAMBT 10 ай бұрын
prx proportions seems to be better imo
@LoriHauck
@LoriHauck 10 ай бұрын
It's a nice watch, but not as nice as the PRX. My personal opinion: the bezel ring is too thick, the crown guard ruins the aesthetics of an all-in-one watch, the color is interesting but doesn't go with this style of watch, and the bracelet doesn't seem to be as good as it could be (maybe it's too thin on top?)
@Shanksy346
@Shanksy346 6 ай бұрын
Way better than a prx
@SuveerMalhotra
@SuveerMalhotra 10 ай бұрын
I thought Citizen Tsuyosa was the new PRX.
@StakedWealth369
@StakedWealth369 10 ай бұрын
It looks better than the PRX
@justinseah4011
@justinseah4011 10 ай бұрын
The problem with micro brands is that in recent years its become super saturated. IMHO the watch industry is moving to a point where the premium brands will now become even more 'desirable' and 'luxurious'.
@bobbressi5414
@bobbressi5414 10 ай бұрын
Uses a version of the PRX movement. Powermatic 80
@jrgdrumsandwatches
@jrgdrumsandwatches 10 ай бұрын
Yes, a better one. 25 jewels.
@bobbressi5414
@bobbressi5414 10 ай бұрын
Yes it is. No argument there
@Udansha
@Udansha Ай бұрын
Just bought one with the blue dial for 520.00...
@ronb4115
@ronb4115 10 ай бұрын
PRX looks good until you put it on your wrist. It’s too boxy. This and the CWard Twelve are way better.
@Kendrick-wr8ll
@Kendrick-wr8ll 10 ай бұрын
HERE BEFORE 1 MILLION SUBS
@suffocated
@suffocated 9 ай бұрын
The bracelet tapering to case size proportions dont work very well, and they should given its 'integrated' as in part of the design.
@edulopez2140
@edulopez2140 10 ай бұрын
This is much better.
@VGMO17
@VGMO17 10 ай бұрын
More than the PRX, it looks a lot like the Seiko SUR555
@collarsncolours
@collarsncolours 10 ай бұрын
Tbh I think the dial looks too large. Would be much better with a larger bezel
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