The philosophy of cynicism - William D. Desmond

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@eilam42
@eilam42 4 жыл бұрын
"We live in a society" -Diogenes
@jayassharma659
@jayassharma659 4 жыл бұрын
George
@StudioUAC
@StudioUAC 4 жыл бұрын
Cynics rise up!
@mrlowquality711
@mrlowquality711 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a joker quote...bruh
@joeljeshurun1918
@joeljeshurun1918 4 жыл бұрын
Society is messed up and thats a fact.
@woodenwind9456
@woodenwind9456 4 жыл бұрын
“ if I wanted to live in a society I would of done so already”
@SollowP
@SollowP Жыл бұрын
Another great quote from Diogenes was about his funeral. When asked how he wished to be buried, he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall so wild animals could feast on his body. When asked if he minded this, he said,“Not at all, as long as you provide me with a stick to chase the creatures away!” When asked how he could use the stick since he would lack awareness, he replied “If I lack awareness, then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?”
@simoni6770
@simoni6770 Жыл бұрын
Am now diving into the life of Diogenes! He was certainly a genius
@lordsiomai
@lordsiomai Жыл бұрын
Genius man!
@rein556
@rein556 Жыл бұрын
What a Chad! He truly mastered the art of free self, To a level where he didn't cared about the methods of the society and was more keen in building his own ways, According to his own needs, I would say toning down his principles would be an insult, cause then you're just not like Diogenes, we simply have to accept we can't become Diogenes
@Reilly0611
@Reilly0611 Жыл бұрын
My buddy says this 😭😭😭
@Virjunior01
@Virjunior01 Жыл бұрын
Honestly was thinking this myself not even two hours ago. A burial is unnecessary
@simeonsimov12
@simeonsimov12 4 жыл бұрын
“I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?” - Diogenes
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 4 жыл бұрын
That showed him!
@wallace8190
@wallace8190 4 жыл бұрын
"I broke the nose of the dog who pissed on me. Why was he so surprised?" -Wallace
@thecourtjester2610
@thecourtjester2610 4 жыл бұрын
Diogenes throwing shade.
@ADeeSHUPA
@ADeeSHUPA 4 жыл бұрын
Semka7a uP
@wallace8190
@wallace8190 4 жыл бұрын
@Enhbayr Bilegt Of course you will do it...if you have power to arrest someone or find something acceptable or not, besides, the world turns around and the next time it would be me "arresting" you, for no reason at all, just because I want to, and you have seen what type of sweet guy I am, haven't you?
@govinddaa6799
@govinddaa6799 2 жыл бұрын
I am wonderstruck by how the meaning of a cynic has changed over time. From being a carefree, non materialistic person wanting to be more closer to the nature, to something that is considered as an insult in recent times, making ppl act out of self interest. I love the way in which the meaning took a different course in time
@katzunjammer
@katzunjammer 2 жыл бұрын
maybe it means that they were cynical about human society, and all its pride and trade and its values, but maybe for good moral reasons they saw society as corrupt ....and maybe the selfish cnics were more like hedonists, who gave up on moral principals or disliked the prudish or moralistic values of society, But really it is difficlut to abandon society nowadays , even hippies buy things from multinational companies, we are reallytrapped in a system that we can only escape if we go back to farming and looking after ourselves liek the amish.
@reddytoplay9188
@reddytoplay9188 Жыл бұрын
@@katzunjammer the amount of people that would die from starvation is huge. Get rid of the nostalgia glasses of the agricultural age and see just how horrifying it is.
@derPetunientopf
@derPetunientopf Жыл бұрын
@@katzunjammer Why stop there? Lets go all the way and live as hunter gatherers. The way we are genetically most adapted to as humans.
@piccadelly9360
@piccadelly9360 Жыл бұрын
@@katzunjammer The Amish people are the only ones who can still afford 7 children. When I think of 7 children, the thought alone gives me the creeps
@ericsierra-franco7802
@ericsierra-franco7802 Жыл бұрын
I would disagree that the ancient Cynics wanted to be "close to nature". They weren't hippies.
@dillonfulhart6624
@dillonfulhart6624 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized that you can, at least partially, draw a line between cynicism, stoicism and modern minimalism, In the way that every of these philosophies seeks ultimate goal of simplifying life in order to live it fully.
@swathisinha
@swathisinha 2 жыл бұрын
even the absurdism
@summerbreeze5115
@summerbreeze5115 Жыл бұрын
Optimistic nihilism & epicurinism
@dislikebutton4981
@dislikebutton4981 7 ай бұрын
​@@summerbreeze5115My bumbum smeels like poopooo
@haryadidris9511
@haryadidris9511 6 ай бұрын
did u really include minimalism???
@jaspervanheycop9722
@jaspervanheycop9722 4 жыл бұрын
I like the other Alexander exchange even better. After getting told to get out of Diogenes sunlight, Alexander (supposedly) was so impressed that he said "If I could be any man other than Alexander, I'd wish to be Diogenes". Then Diogenes replied "If I were Alexander, I'd also want to be Diogenes". It's just so savage.
@fightersroots3531
@fightersroots3531 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know that??
@charlesbentley7317
@charlesbentley7317 3 жыл бұрын
​@@fightersroots3531 It's just as popular as the original quote, and I believe also from the ancient greek historian Plutarch.
@maxthehazelnut
@maxthehazelnut 2 жыл бұрын
if i were you, id wanna be me too
@michel9428
@michel9428 2 жыл бұрын
What Diogenes said was "If I could be any man other than Diogenes, I'd wish to be Diogenes too"
@deeznuts6907
@deeznuts6907 2 жыл бұрын
He actually didn’t ask him to step out of his sunlight the translation is closer to “undarken me” which is a double entendre
@derkaiser420
@derkaiser420 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite story of Diogenes was this: The question; What is the most simple way to explain a man? Plato said humans are a featherless biped. Diogenes storms into his school as he is teaching with a dead plucked chicken and yells 'Behold, Plato's man.' Haha gold.
@dragonofepics7324
@dragonofepics7324 4 жыл бұрын
derkaiser420 I thought it was alive when he brought it in
@cpoao6807
@cpoao6807 4 жыл бұрын
And then Plato answered "well, it's fetherless biped with a flat nails".
@vinikavish4505
@vinikavish4505 4 жыл бұрын
This got me in the cynic fandom honestly
@wiandryadiwasistio2062
@wiandryadiwasistio2062 4 жыл бұрын
E C C E H O M O
@ut2819
@ut2819 4 жыл бұрын
Alternative story: Diogenes wear a feather costume and say to Plato: 'Plato look i have abandoned my humanity'
@saidtoshimaru1832
@saidtoshimaru1832 4 жыл бұрын
"Diogenes, if you learn to praise the emperor you wouldn't be eating lentils" "And if you learn to live of lentils you needn't have to praise the emperor".
@krispi1481
@krispi1481 4 жыл бұрын
there were not emperors at the time. they were aristocrates
@saidtoshimaru1832
@saidtoshimaru1832 4 жыл бұрын
@@krispi1481 It was referred to Alexander, who technically was a Basileus, but after conquering the persians started fashioning himself as king of kings. It really doesn't afect that much the meaning of the famous dialogue.
@wallace8190
@wallace8190 4 жыл бұрын
If you become one of the emperors you won't be forced to please anyone, you will please whom you want to only.
@CastleRaccon
@CastleRaccon 4 жыл бұрын
@@wallace8190 You still need to please other emperors/aristocrats to keep your status
@oddniit1669
@oddniit1669 4 жыл бұрын
Name Name nananana, u a king?
@cyycy5739
@cyycy5739 3 жыл бұрын
“Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be One.” - Marcus Aurelius
@truthboom
@truthboom 3 жыл бұрын
They got no idea what a good man should be so it's impossible to be one at that point
@Nyghtking
@Nyghtking 3 жыл бұрын
@@truthboom It's actually really simple to understand what a good person is, but it seems like some people have a hard time understanding it.
@xavier1404
@xavier1404 3 жыл бұрын
stoics kinda similar to diogenes ..
@Thunderheart_N.s.G
@Thunderheart_N.s.G 3 жыл бұрын
Very true stoicism.. Simple yet so hard for alot of people to just be good
@blank6731
@blank6731 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nyghtking What do you think "Good" is? What is good? I stole a fruit in the market when no one was watching in order to feed my hungry family, What am I now? A good or a bad person?
@Not-Ap
@Not-Ap 8 ай бұрын
“Poverty is a virtue which one can teach oneself.” ― Diogenes of Sinope
@TheCoffeeNut711
@TheCoffeeNut711 4 жыл бұрын
Its amazing how much stress we go through by living like everyone else.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 3 жыл бұрын
"Spending money you don't have, trying to impress people you don't like"
@mism847
@mism847 3 жыл бұрын
@am py Only to realize you've lost more by having more.
@jackiegrant410
@jackiegrant410 3 жыл бұрын
We have a choice. ❤️ the less we have the freer we are ❤️
@rosiecastro5322
@rosiecastro5322 Жыл бұрын
Being different from anyone else has a price; for me it's worthwhile!!!
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
_"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist."_ *~ George Carlin*
@s7nclair
@s7nclair 4 жыл бұрын
is that alex i see.
@JODRecaps
@JODRecaps 4 жыл бұрын
sup friendship. big daddy eight thoughts
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
@@JODRecaps Yo!
@RamonQuiro7
@RamonQuiro7 4 жыл бұрын
JOD not here too please
@navarajpanday68
@navarajpanday68 4 жыл бұрын
I feel this quote
@fulviopontarollo2952
@fulviopontarollo2952 4 жыл бұрын
And what about the story of Diogenes, Plato and the cup? That’s a fantastic one “Plato was discoursing on his theory of ideas and, pointing to the cups on the table before him, said while there are many cups in the world, there is only one 'idea' of a cup, and this cupness precedes the existence of all particular cups. "I can see the cups on the table," said Diogenes, "but I can't see the 'cupness'". "That's because you have the eyes to see the cup," said Plato, "but", tapping his head with his forefinger, "you don't have the intellect with which to comprehend 'cupness'." Diogenes walked up to the table, examined a cup and, looking inside, asked, "Is it empty?" Plato nodded. "Where is the 'emptiness' which precedes this empty cup?" asked Diogenes. Plato allowed himself a few moments to collect his thoughts, but Diogenes reached over and, tapping Plato's head with his finger, said "I think you will find here is the 'emptiness'".”
@adamgrant6433
@adamgrant6433 4 жыл бұрын
God tier, so many layers
@nine-vi7rw
@nine-vi7rw 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooo
@bipula55
@bipula55 4 жыл бұрын
If its true man im creating a new religion diogenes.
@friesontheside9002
@friesontheside9002 4 жыл бұрын
pewdiedpie made a vid on that topic it is good i like the story
@zaqareemalcolm
@zaqareemalcolm 4 жыл бұрын
what a madlad
@sigeomeg529
@sigeomeg529 3 жыл бұрын
There's a great illustration of Diogenes' philosophy I haven't seen anyone mention here in the comments : At some point in his life, Diogenes had a cup to drink as his only posession. Then he saw a dog drink rain water from a puddle and he threw away the cup, asking himself "What do I need this for?" I like that tale, truly shows his reject of materialism
@whatisahandle221
@whatisahandle221 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience, while possessions _can_ overburden me, _not_ having the right basics, sustenance, adequate shelter, tools, etc, can lead to enormous inconveniences, time & effort wasted, hardships, and exhaustion. Perhaps one could argue that I’m “exhausted” and feeling “hardship” only because I yearn for a modern, productive, and engaging life. However, I have felt that the opposite-Ie hippie, carefree, or lackadaisical life-is really just a “settling” for what you cannot have. (Note: I’ve never heard of Diogenes before.)
@tacosdepambazo
@tacosdepambazo Жыл бұрын
I remember that it was a kid eating lentils from the ground
@mud6866
@mud6866 Жыл бұрын
Was that not Rumii?
@Diogenes_von_Sinope
@Diogenes_von_Sinope Жыл бұрын
i think it was a kid drinking from its hollow of hands.
@muskilaasaan151
@muskilaasaan151 4 жыл бұрын
“I have nothing to ask but that you would remove to the other side, that you may not, by intercepting the sunshine, take from me what you cannot give.” ― Diogenes
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 2 жыл бұрын
He may have been a dog but he was poetic.
@lutheraugustine1247
@lutheraugustine1247 Жыл бұрын
Get out my sun 🤣🤣🤣. Levels of savagery we cannot even begin to approach!
@tristanrios1605
@tristanrios1605 11 ай бұрын
Because Alexander was kepting him away from the "enlightment", casting a shadow of "ignorance" towards him. That's the best description I'd know about their encounter, so simple yet so profund. Blew my mind
@davyroger3773
@davyroger3773 4 жыл бұрын
"In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face." - Diogenes
@chillipupper9433
@chillipupper9433 4 жыл бұрын
as soon as i heard diogenes i thought this would come up somewhere
@hey-fv2gg
@hey-fv2gg 4 жыл бұрын
He is a mood
@ValGOPLock
@ValGOPLock 4 жыл бұрын
He's an interesting person
@ssrini2002
@ssrini2002 4 жыл бұрын
You mean to say he doesn’t have a sink? 😂
@kedgee
@kedgee 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssrini2002 they just mean that the house is so fancy that the rich person wouldn’t want them to spit anywhere not even a sink so the only place to do it because of that is his face.
@schnieti
@schnieti 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing I remembered of Diogenes was that he allegedly died because he just decided he didn't want to breathe anymore. As a child I thought so much about it, because it's so simple yet impactful. Just a legend as everything but not less fascinating
@Nyghtking
@Nyghtking 3 жыл бұрын
I think he also said that when he died he shouldn't be buried, instead he should be thrown to the animals to give back what little he had taken from the world.
@JansenGlasc
@JansenGlasc 2 жыл бұрын
Probably thought breathing was too mainstream as well
@zakosist
@zakosist 2 жыл бұрын
So he committed suicide? You cant really decide to stop breathing without physically restricting it, at the most you will just pass out and then start breathing again involuntary
@anonymousx1101
@anonymousx1101 Жыл бұрын
@@Nyghtking Honestly, that's more thoughtful than anything I've heard regarding last wishes today. One with nature, right until the end.
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 Жыл бұрын
@@anonymousx1101 There's been a small push among some to be buried as fertilizer for trees, but it's illegal in most places for several reasons. The main trouble is sanitary concerns actually.
@IbnAlBassam
@IbnAlBassam 4 жыл бұрын
“Once he saw the officials of a temple leading away some one who had stolen a bowl belonging to the treasurers, and said, "The great thieves are leading away the little thief.” ― Diogenes
@wallace8190
@wallace8190 4 жыл бұрын
He was right on this one, but that makes him no less obnoxious.
@Dimitri88888888
@Dimitri88888888 4 жыл бұрын
@@wallace8190 you really hate him lol
@letsomethingshine
@letsomethingshine 3 жыл бұрын
Diogenes is technically correct, that is how mob-boss-syndicates/governments work. But which leaders and laws do you prefer? I probably would not vote for the little thief, after all, how much could he get done for himself, let alone for me? Only little. Then again, how much would the great thieve do for me and my family? I would probably have to scratch their back very very well to even be considered for a just return, but the consideration of the great thieve would probably mean they would run with all the money for themselves.
@iwong3357
@iwong3357 3 жыл бұрын
Old-school savagery. xD
@Jackgritty28
@Jackgritty28 3 жыл бұрын
Vanity is materialistic in outlook, could you go about your life without being so cynical, don't be at odds with society,it's an insult to be criticised, you wouldn't like to feel rejected🆘🚩🔥✅
@zakosist
@zakosist 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't what I expected "cynicism" to be at all, not the image I get in my head. Really fascinating story. Seems a lot of things change from what they originally started as
@christian_751
@christian_751 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way that TedEd covers controversial topics so sophisticatedly. Every time I think that they’re about to cross the line or simplify the narrative so that it’s suitable for a broader audience, they always find a way to make it intelligent and coherent. I love you guys!
@alespic
@alespic 2 жыл бұрын
Bias is the enemy of truly good education, and TedED has always done a great job at defeating this enemy.
@elessal
@elessal 7 ай бұрын
You mean by having a mean trump in a sofa critizining a nice version of gret thunberg? Yeah right.
@meskieLoves
@meskieLoves 4 жыл бұрын
"get out of my sunlight 😂"
@Bithros
@Bithros 4 жыл бұрын
"Let the sun shine Let The sunshine in The sun shine in" yes he is sure the first hippie! 😂
@krispi1481
@krispi1481 4 жыл бұрын
and then Alexandros replied ''If i wasn't Alexandros, i would like to be Diogenes''
@fisharepeopletoo9653
@fisharepeopletoo9653 4 жыл бұрын
@@krispi1481 And then Diogenes says "If I weren't Diogenes, I too would wish to be Diogenes."
@DesignedXDAHF
@DesignedXDAHF 4 жыл бұрын
“Get out my sunlight” *but in Leo’s voice from That 70s Show*
@lunarcultist6214
@lunarcultist6214 4 жыл бұрын
@@Floter-t1h Alexander achieved much, but in the end it was all undone. All those great conquerors wanted to write their names in history, and they did - but only for their failures.
@djan7905
@djan7905 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing the stories of Diogenes' antics got me into philosophy and he's still one of my favourite philosophers, alongside with the stoics. As always, the animation is stunning and unique. 👌
@TU42Fuzzy
@TU42Fuzzy 3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@geeksdo1tbetter
@geeksdo1tbetter 26 күн бұрын
Can I ask about the counterfeiting? What was his goal there?
@swarnim.3335
@swarnim.3335 4 жыл бұрын
So basically Diogenes was the first hippie.
@JODRecaps
@JODRecaps 4 жыл бұрын
hi swarn. big daddy eight thoughtssssss
@sebastianelytron8450
@sebastianelytron8450 4 жыл бұрын
Technically, Adam and Eve were hippies...
@DRiungi
@DRiungi 4 жыл бұрын
also the first "the dude"
@brandtlucasbrandt
@brandtlucasbrandt 4 жыл бұрын
First *homeless person
@scottkraft1062
@scottkraft1062 4 жыл бұрын
That is an insult to Diogenes
@Emolederc
@Emolederc 3 жыл бұрын
the girl protesting on tv to be more earth friendly 3:21 is the same girl enjoying sunset with the dolphins. I just liked the continuity there
@iwong3357
@iwong3357 3 жыл бұрын
From the braided hair and yellow coat, I assume it's Greta Thunberg.
@denielkhoirom1458
@denielkhoirom1458 7 ай бұрын
The funny thing is Diogenes lived up to 89 years in ancient times and some even say he just got tired of living and hold his breath until he died
@theknightwhosayn1
@theknightwhosayn1 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone says Nietzsche i get existential crisis .
@third_6117
@third_6117 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO foreal. That man turned my life upside down
@trueworldprince3939
@trueworldprince3939 4 жыл бұрын
@@third_6117 I WILL DO IT AGAIN IF I WANT TO!
@szilveszterforgo8776
@szilveszterforgo8776 4 жыл бұрын
Question: I really want to read Nietzsche, is it that hard to understand his philosophy? (I've only read Plato and a bit of Aristotle, so it would be a big gap if I would start to read Nietzsche now..)
@trueworldprince3939
@trueworldprince3939 4 жыл бұрын
@@szilveszterforgo8776 No, very 42
@szilveszterforgo8776
@szilveszterforgo8776 4 жыл бұрын
@@trueworldprince3939 What does 42 mean?
@juan.s
@juan.s 4 жыл бұрын
whenever the topic is philosophy the animator always seems to include old bearded men
@micheal5117
@micheal5117 4 жыл бұрын
thats who they are appealing
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it make sense that most Greeks back in the day weren't shaving.
@kevin080592
@kevin080592 4 жыл бұрын
yes..I agree..like confucious and bearded men connotates old age and wisdom.. which makes sense when it comes to topics of philosophy
@kevin080592
@kevin080592 4 жыл бұрын
yes..I agree..like confucious and bearded men connotates old age and wisdom.. which makes sense when it comes to topics of philosophy
@rajithm4081
@rajithm4081 4 жыл бұрын
People say old men are wise, so I'd assume they'd be good at philosophy
@NoneNone-rj6bs
@NoneNone-rj6bs 4 жыл бұрын
"We live in a society." Diogenes: "Do we *REALLY* though?"
@jvukovic4
@jvukovic4 2 жыл бұрын
"you live in a society, I live in a barrel with dogs, we are not the same"
@denalozecon9074
@denalozecon9074 Жыл бұрын
For my whole life I thought a Cynic was a person that saw the glass as half full; seeing the negative in whatever situation. Or also people disappointed by people and life. A practical Cynic attitude is to expect problems and disappointment, and to be pleasantly surprised when life is less frustrating than you expect. But? In this video I learned the first Cynics were some guys that just wanted to chill out and live simply. That origin is quite different from the more mainstream modern cynics. I like this origin story; even cynicism is more complex than I knew...
@jswets5007
@jswets5007 Жыл бұрын
The best part is at the end where he says to think independently and not blindly follow the ideas of others, and then suggests that you hone those skills by blindly clicking on some more ideas of others... Magnificent!
@xen3588
@xen3588 Жыл бұрын
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@24601st
@24601st Жыл бұрын
as we all know, "thinking critically" is when you think independently. and the less you listen to other peoples ideas, the more independently you can think. the perfect thinker of the world is Thinking Georg, who sits in a cave near the peak of a mountain and who never learned the language of humankind
@jswets5007
@jswets5007 Жыл бұрын
@@24601st Oh my, what a lovely strawman argument. If it wasn't for the obvious fact that you know at least one language of humankind, I might mistakenly conclude that you are Thinking Georg. You are apparently even wiser than, Thinking Georg... Maybe one day you will develop a sense of humor. Then again, you might be too busy knowing how right you are to think about anything else. Either way, enjoy your day. They all end.
@24601st
@24601st Жыл бұрын
i just come in here to have a good time and simply have fun at your expense, and yet you say i have no sense of humor. how devastating for me
@jswets5007
@jswets5007 Жыл бұрын
@@24601st Yeah, that's what happened. You certainly have a firm grasp of things, Georg.
@seanl7503
@seanl7503 4 жыл бұрын
I actually learned about this in my philosophy class. Diogenes never gave a darn
@03e-210a
@03e-210a 4 жыл бұрын
A darn? Are you 12?
@AbbeyRoadkill1
@AbbeyRoadkill1 4 жыл бұрын
The first man to ever run out of fucks to give.
@marie-lynnissa656
@marie-lynnissa656 4 жыл бұрын
@@03e-210a probably still older than you
@vermin5367
@vermin5367 4 жыл бұрын
@@03e-210a ah yes, making fun of someones vocabulary how original.
@AyushMandowara_xx7
@AyushMandowara_xx7 3 жыл бұрын
...never game dam, coz I'm about to set trip, vacation plans... (some eminem song came to mind)
@cosminblk8359
@cosminblk8359 4 жыл бұрын
Irronically, the cynics loves beauty. Diogenes once saw a beautiful boy telling bad things on the streets of Athens. He told him: "Why do you bring a rusty sword from an ivory sheath ?"
@wallace8190
@wallace8190 4 жыл бұрын
It is not beauty, it is moralism. I would tell diogenes, why don't you get a job like normal people do?
@PRGME7
@PRGME7 4 жыл бұрын
wallace he would laugh in your face
@sashalaney7608
@sashalaney7608 4 жыл бұрын
@@wallace8190 the advice "get a job" is almost the universal sign of an individual with an inflated ego
@wallace8190
@wallace8190 4 жыл бұрын
@@sashalaney7608 yeah, that is my case, my Ego is astronomic and I like it. Nice try, bro! 🖤💚💖❤💚🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
@sashalaney7608
@sashalaney7608 4 жыл бұрын
@@wallace8190 nice try what? You agreed with me after all 🤗
@stiltzkinvanserine5164
@stiltzkinvanserine5164 4 жыл бұрын
Diogenes, the founding father of Internet trolls.
@mism847
@mism847 3 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@liviwaslost
@liviwaslost 3 жыл бұрын
And joker memes
@Tchaikovsky391
@Tchaikovsky391 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@combat_chameleon
@combat_chameleon 2 жыл бұрын
dude was just walking around, trying to trigger anybody, the og
@ericsierra-franco7802
@ericsierra-franco7802 2 жыл бұрын
No. Not even close.
@filipvelkov6829
@filipvelkov6829 3 жыл бұрын
I have grown very cynical in the past month, I’m aware of it. I’m gonna watch this video now, to educate myself on it, though I know I need to root it out. It hasn’t happened spontaneously, things were particularly hard the past 2 months and I’ve found myself contemplating life and meaning, existence and purpose. Though Im just a first year uni student, I feel like its too early for me to be thinking this way, Im slowly straightening out my mind, fixing things, though I feel a bit crushed at times. Hopefully my external circumstances get better, I sure hope so, and Im sure they will, and I find my other self again, or at least be in touch with it more often, and have it manifest itself into the world more frequently.
@hobbietdays
@hobbietdays 3 жыл бұрын
I am just in my final senior high year but goddamn don't I get into existential crisis like everyday? Yes
@samanthacallaway2276
@samanthacallaway2276 Жыл бұрын
Ya know, I feel ya. The best way to deal with it is to do what Diogenes did. Accept it and move on, relax. Life and our time on this planet is very brief if science and nature have taught me everything. While we unfortunately have to worry more about material things more today than Diogenes did, doesn’t mean we can’t adopt some of his principles. To me after acceptance, I’ve come to just enjoy every second I live in, I’m trying to be more mindful of what it feels like to experience the world at the present moment. A big portion of that is being care free and happy. Getting out in nature, disconnecting, forgiving, accepting, contentment, and happiness. Life is too short to be angry, to be worried, to never repair broken things. Do what you love, if you want to simplify your life? Do it. Get out in nature, let it show you how to do that. Be a dog.
@ericsierra-franco7802
@ericsierra-franco7802 Жыл бұрын
Has nothing to do with the modern notion of cynicism.
@30secclips35
@30secclips35 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually eye opening. We're all different from each other so is our approach to life. One can't really walk in your shoes. We're all unique creatures. Others'opinions shouldn't really matter. Why do we have to follow rules someone made in accordance with themselves. what is philosophy? Isn't it what we think it is? Are we trying to be who we are not?
@samanthacallaway2276
@samanthacallaway2276 Жыл бұрын
You’ve nailed it. The sooner one understands how unique every living beings existence is and how beautiful that is…and also how brief it is. The sooner we can accept each other, respect each other, be happy, and love the planet and life we have, the better we’ll all be.
@DevanshuSharma0
@DevanshuSharma0 4 жыл бұрын
Feel so blessed to have this channel in this time. Such beautiful voice and stupendous animation.
@krispi1481
@krispi1481 4 жыл бұрын
Alexandros replied ''If i wasn't Alexandros, i would like to be Diogenes''
@RaixsOreh
@RaixsOreh 4 жыл бұрын
And diogenes replied back "If I wasn't Diogenes, I would still like to be Diogenes."
@alexandersmidt5289
@alexandersmidt5289 2 жыл бұрын
Alexandros? In what country do they call Alexander that?
@pannik44
@pannik44 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandersmidt5289 In Greece. It is the original pronunciation and it means Protector of men.
@badsoup8857
@badsoup8857 4 жыл бұрын
the ilustrations like the ones with with Greta and Joker make this video fun and show how relevant and interesting the subject is, despite seeming boring and irrelevant at first. The ilustrations go well with the script and are really fun, the narrator's voice is amazing and the script is lively, easy to understand, brief, and comprehensive. Everything about these videos is just great. I also love how you frame all these lessons as stories.
@melontusk7358
@melontusk7358 2 жыл бұрын
1:38 I've just realized the four dogs in this frame could symbolize the four *Cardinal Virtues of Stoicism,* which Diogenes inspired.
@frostywelder1220
@frostywelder1220 Жыл бұрын
Question Everything then. I first heard that in my early 20’s. I’m 50 now and that is my motto. I don’t think I could live as Diogenes did but I have contemplated the nomadic lifestyle many times over.
@phoneheaded
@phoneheaded 4 жыл бұрын
Plato: "A featherless biped, a man..." *Trumpets in the distance, slamming door, a plucked chicken appears within the academy* Plato, through clenched teeth: "... with broad, flat nails."
@melchid8448
@melchid8448 4 жыл бұрын
Sam'o nella
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland 4 жыл бұрын
Spikes chicken man on ground**
@melchid8448
@melchid8448 4 жыл бұрын
@@Garl_Vinland Then one of the students get up
@thecourtjester2610
@thecourtjester2610 4 жыл бұрын
*a pangolin*
@thecourtjester2610
@thecourtjester2610 4 жыл бұрын
@yeahSOwhat da fuk?
@panchish
@panchish 4 жыл бұрын
my fave thing about this is how the art direction is so doodle-like, like the animator &/ artist didn’t make much of an effort to polish the visual output. i think diogenes would approve
@hermannbarbato
@hermannbarbato 4 жыл бұрын
Greta Thunberg, John Lennon, even Joaquin's Joker, so many references!
@shaksiyat
@shaksiyat 4 жыл бұрын
3:27 clockwork orange gang
@ChanelDarkSide
@ChanelDarkSide 4 жыл бұрын
Greta 🤢 the definition of cynic, how dare u? Printing and killing all trees just to put me in front page of Times magazine, kids stay in school and give solutions to problems ! Not just problems .. MILLENIUM GENERATION SPOILED KIDS
@kc3reo
@kc3reo 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChanelDarkSide you alright mate?
@ChanelDarkSide
@ChanelDarkSide 4 жыл бұрын
Ditto yeah fine, just hate how ppl think that cringe kid is the voice of reason
@Daniela-be3xk
@Daniela-be3xk 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChanelDarkSide ok boomer
@Robotshadow
@Robotshadow 4 жыл бұрын
4:40
@manabendrabanerjee3470
@manabendrabanerjee3470 3 жыл бұрын
Good observation
@olivia8293
@olivia8293 2 жыл бұрын
I know about Diogenes long ago but this is the first time I heard about the reason behind his exile, how can a man who wanted to have money(or so I assume) in the first place change into one that needs nothing other than basics?? this is just fascinating.
@drinmaliqi9531
@drinmaliqi9531 2 жыл бұрын
He is the besg philosopher
@reddytoplay9188
@reddytoplay9188 Жыл бұрын
Heres my two cents on why that happened. The first of which is that he was framed. The second is that he was coping, he lost everything so he needed a rationalization for how he can go on with his new life before eventually accepting the idea and enjoying it.
@Diogenes_von_Sinope
@Diogenes_von_Sinope Жыл бұрын
maybe he wanted to illustrate the foolishness of currency and usury coexisting.
@jayasankagamage1081
@jayasankagamage1081 10 ай бұрын
I think it is because he didn't want to accept the defeat. He changed his mindset and values accordingly. So that he is no longer living an unfortunate life. He tried to convince others that they are unfortunate, and he is the one who is living the best life.
@nazneentonse6768
@nazneentonse6768 4 жыл бұрын
I did not know this! That the philosophy of cynicism is totally different from the definition of cynicism we have today! So it is NOT about "knowing the price of everything but the value of nothing" .. quite the opposite. It is actually about questioning the status quo, questioning whether the things you value are worth valuing, and simplifying your life accordingly. Very interesting video!
@Winasaurus
@Winasaurus 4 жыл бұрын
That's what the quote is meaning. Cynics suppose that true value in life is being happy, and a part of nature, nothing to do with prices. So you could say a non-cynic knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing. He may have money and possessions, but he isn't any happier than the man who simply doesn't care about money, and lives how he pleases.
@shamansprout4394
@shamansprout4394 4 жыл бұрын
I liked this take on cynism more than the one that the school of life looked at it, it’s not that it was bad, it was just too narrow visioned, it jumped to conclusions that under all cynics is a childhood crisis, far from the truth
@azrael5648
@azrael5648 4 жыл бұрын
4:32-4:42 Is that joker dancing in steps?
@ahsannaveed8815
@ahsannaveed8815 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much obvious I think
@jeffcarroll1990shock
@jeffcarroll1990shock 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jesusenriquez1236
@jesusenriquez1236 4 жыл бұрын
I guess Arthur Fleck / the Joker & Edward Blake / the Comedian, are comics version of Diogenes. One is a villain and the other one is an anti-hero.
@jeffcarroll1990shock
@jeffcarroll1990shock 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesusenriquez1236 or all three of them were just crazy people.
@bradspitt3896
@bradspitt3896 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get how Joker is diogenes, he seems like a nihilist.
@mahmoodsharjeelzahid5507
@mahmoodsharjeelzahid5507 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't hold my laughter at the 'Stair Dance' animation from "Joker".
@MaysField
@MaysField 2 жыл бұрын
"Not to blindly follow conventional or majority views, but to think hard about what is truly valuable. Thinking critically about our institutions and way of life is more important than ever."
@Bunny-qi6oe
@Bunny-qi6oe 4 жыл бұрын
I effin love the animations of ted but I'm damn sure the animator was messing around when he made that match cut at 1:39 I mean, look at the red dog's tail..
@Noukz37
@Noukz37 4 жыл бұрын
"Think for yourself. Question authority."
@wallace8190
@wallace8190 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, good idea, question Chinese government! Ah, you won't, China is not a democratic country, you can be arrested just for expressing your thoughts there. You wanna question authority in Western Countries where you can speak your mind and be as annoying as you want to.
@dinohall2595
@dinohall2595 4 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that I would be obeying your instructions if I started thinking for myself. Paradox.
@Gorgon_666
@Gorgon_666 4 жыл бұрын
I have a sneaking suspension that you don't actually want me to do that
@Noukz37
@Noukz37 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gorgon_666 Nope, I really do, but they're not my words. :-) Also, I'm interested about your suspension setup, how is it sneaky exactly? :-P
@jonirojonironin5353
@jonirojonironin5353 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinohall2595 Would it be obeying someone if you thought for yourself? It would then be obeying "yourself."
@marylynjustiniani964
@marylynjustiniani964 4 жыл бұрын
Ted-Ed helps me a lot on my studies. They really do have lessons worth sharing. I'm in love with this channel💕
@JODRecaps
@JODRecaps 4 жыл бұрын
hola mary. big daddy eight thoughtssss
@amampathak
@amampathak 4 жыл бұрын
Just taking a second to appreciate the amazing artstyle, love the video as well!
@Yas-gs8cm
@Yas-gs8cm Жыл бұрын
"In previous ages, the wise kept roaming around the country with a lantern in hand, as: I'm fed up with the beasts and monsters, I wish to find a human." - Rumi (makes rhyme and is a full blow poem in Persian).
@Poppydude51
@Poppydude51 4 жыл бұрын
"Get out of my sunshine" Man's got some balls.
@stephonmanny7555
@stephonmanny7555 4 жыл бұрын
That little girl is way to happy at 1:21
@GiftedFey
@GiftedFey Жыл бұрын
Thats prolly a boy lmao
@I_am_FRANCO
@I_am_FRANCO Жыл бұрын
@@GiftedFeymakes more sense
@岛鹏
@岛鹏 4 жыл бұрын
Philosophical video: *exists* Ted : bearded men YAAAASSSS
@JODRecaps
@JODRecaps 4 жыл бұрын
sup eti. big daddy eight thoughtssssss
@ivarangquist9184
@ivarangquist9184 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. You Got a like from Ted ed
@RickFoxChicken
@RickFoxChicken 4 жыл бұрын
Come up with a more clever template
@dioge3217
@dioge3217 3 жыл бұрын
Teded's kink
@lubdy9165
@lubdy9165 Жыл бұрын
This doesn’t only apply to thinking critically about institutions. Think critically about those who oppose institutions as well. What motives, biases, and prior knowledge do they have and does their logic fall under genuine scrutiny. What is their focus vs what is the big picture. Critical thinking is not blind denial.
@celistetannous6436
@celistetannous6436 4 жыл бұрын
My earphones weren't working well so I watched it the first time with no narrator but only the music... and that ART
@imroztowhid1284
@imroztowhid1284 4 жыл бұрын
Bangladeshi writer Humayun Ahmed created an almost same character namely "Himu". His (Himu) father thought that if one could be trained as an engineer, doctor, etc. then one could also be trained as a nobleman/ saint/ prophet/ scholar. Another Bengali polymath wrote a short story on this kind of base, named "Happy Man (Shukhi Manush)".
@aprilrahee
@aprilrahee Жыл бұрын
Well, true . But unlike Diogenes, Himu tried to irritate people. Well people found Diogenes irritating too , but Himu is on another level . And also Himu plays with other's mind while Diogenes was simply being detached from material stuffs. And Himu's eating habit cannot be denoted as simplicity. But his father's thoughts were similar to cynicism. ( I was a die hard fan of the character Himu as a teenager Haha .) And I think 'shukhi manush' was inspired from the life of Diogenes.
@dibiasemizcena26
@dibiasemizcena26 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've been reading up on why and how the modern meaning of cynicism has shifted from the original philosophy. From being about living according to nature and disregarding customs to being indifferent and disgruntled. Been thinking what else would more properly describe the latter - nihilism? Fatalism?
@videakias3000
@videakias3000 4 жыл бұрын
1:46 the "o" in the word kynikoi is a silent letter.
@Locoautizzy1414
@Locoautizzy1414 Жыл бұрын
Why do I resonate so deeply with Diogenes
@gabrielaubry1334
@gabrielaubry1334 Жыл бұрын
There was a story of Diogenes when he was attending the theater in Athens. A group of youths from Sybaris, in rich, fine clothes and makeup, walked in, and Diogenes heckled them with cried of "Affectation". Then walked in youths from Croton, whose attire are humble and ascetic, but were also heckled by Diogenes, who cried "More Affectation".
@akshaychauhan4346
@akshaychauhan4346 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever i see a philosopher notification the only thing that comes to my mind is what is in the mind of the animator today to fill my starving curiosity
@JODRecaps
@JODRecaps 4 жыл бұрын
hello chauhan. big daddy eight thoughtssssssss
@lottielotte
@lottielotte 4 жыл бұрын
As always, beautiful lesson again, Ted-Ed. ❤️
@thresh86
@thresh86 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! In modern Greek, cynic (or κυνικός) is a person who comments on something, usually in a displeasing manner and without ευπρέπεια (decency) or ευγένεια (courtesy). We usually mention Diogenes the Cynic as an example of clever retort (to Alexander the Great and his father, Philip II ) and alternative lifestyle Thank you again !
@maddkatter7948
@maddkatter7948 Жыл бұрын
Makes you step back and look at everything we do. I have been doing this for years. 🎉
@syahgisi4226
@syahgisi4226 Жыл бұрын
isn't it amazing how this channel can help you retain years of information in five minutes?
@PianoForFun
@PianoForFun 4 жыл бұрын
I want to point out two mistakes in the video: The name did not come from Diogenes behaving like a dog, but because he used to point out other people's flaws trying to make them better, so this was parallelized with the dog bites. Also, the story about him looking for a human with a candle during a day was not invented by Nietzsche, but it is from antiquity. I don't remember the sources right now, maybe I get something wrong, I just point out what I remember.
@thegravellesstraveled2320
@thegravellesstraveled2320 Жыл бұрын
Your sources?
@lakim3017
@lakim3017 4 жыл бұрын
Diogenes is a mad lad
@rebeccahughes8734
@rebeccahughes8734 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was Diogenes who said "In a rich man's house, there is nowhere to spit but his face"
@wallace8190
@wallace8190 4 жыл бұрын
That is easy if the rich man doesn't hit back, not with spit but with a punch.
@pineapple9747
@pineapple9747 3 жыл бұрын
@@wallace8190 here you go again! Where are the Emojis dude! 😔
@combat_chameleon
@combat_chameleon 2 жыл бұрын
0:23 i love how his like "u got nothing on me, boo"
@munimtajwar4591
@munimtajwar4591 Жыл бұрын
I just want to dive into the philosophical history after watching this.just loved the philosophy of cynicism. And The way of teaching is just amazing.
@helix2331
@helix2331 3 жыл бұрын
THIS GUY WAS SO AHEAD OF HIS TIME HE DID THE "LOOKING FOR WHO ASKED" MEME THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE US
@gmm2701
@gmm2701 3 жыл бұрын
1:19 My volume was high, my parents listened... Good thing we don't speak English as our first language, they didn't really understand (or at least, that is what I want to believe)
@VidCirman
@VidCirman 4 жыл бұрын
"Hone your newfound skepticism with these videos." Why should I?
@Khepriem
@Khepriem 4 жыл бұрын
I love how easily a simple skeptical question can lead to a philosophical headfirst tumble down a rabbit hole of existentialism that you will never find your way out of.
@PRGME7
@PRGME7 4 жыл бұрын
Zᴇᴩʜyʀᴜꜱ Aᴜʀᴏɴ or will you find your way out of it? Is there a way out of it?
@davidkerr797
@davidkerr797 4 жыл бұрын
It's scepticism.
@Khepriem
@Khepriem 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidkerr797 It's both. Try to be more skeptical of yourself before calling people out.
@davidkerr797
@davidkerr797 4 жыл бұрын
Depends where you are really.
@humptydumpty-m8u
@humptydumpty-m8u 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for uploading 🙏🏻
@Scornfull
@Scornfull Жыл бұрын
Diogenes sounds like he was basically me but more extreme but as I grow older I become more and more like him and didn't even realize it until now
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 4 жыл бұрын
3:36 As much as we love to claim him as our own, Rousseau was Genevan (Swiss), not French. Though he lived a great deal of his life in France and wrote in French, thus making him part of the French intellectual tradition, he very much considered himself a *citizen* of Geneva, and not a *subject* of the French Crown. This idea of republic inspired in part his Social Contract.
@osse1n
@osse1n 4 жыл бұрын
Many of us have tried cynicism but it doesn't lead nowhere Virtue is the only way to save us from, dare we say... ourselves
@AbbeyRoadkill1
@AbbeyRoadkill1 4 жыл бұрын
Arete
@Ottmar555
@Ottmar555 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@notdumbrella6399
@notdumbrella6399 3 жыл бұрын
Diogenes and the first Cynics were the ones who truly accepted "Reject Humanity, Return to Monke"
@deepaktripathi4417
@deepaktripathi4417 Жыл бұрын
"What is truly valuable" That's what I always want to make my family understand.
@akirakenchieedquiban531
@akirakenchieedquiban531 Жыл бұрын
damn Diogenes be taking everything positively and living naturally wat a dawg
@conorcrowley6256
@conorcrowley6256 4 жыл бұрын
Me and the boys watching this episode the last time theya ccidently uploaded it
@queensaharaice7376
@queensaharaice7376 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was familiar! I didn't get to watch the whole thing last time and forgot about it😅 I'm glad they re-uploaded
@emilcioran8873
@emilcioran8873 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that a cynic was a selfish person. Never knew a cynic is a genius who actually understand the life. Wow
@zakosist
@zakosist 2 жыл бұрын
I think even the original form of cynicism had that you shouldn't really care about those around you and only focus on yourself. That by itself is selfish. But otherwise quite harmless and neutral philosophy that had its beauty. Cynicism definitely has gotten worse in modern time
@Bloink
@Bloink Жыл бұрын
@@zakosist What do you mean by gotten worse?
@emopeterparker7
@emopeterparker7 4 жыл бұрын
oh my god. it's my favorite man, diogenes
@nobodytagota9813
@nobodytagota9813 4 жыл бұрын
Thats my prof pic
@hanselfinn8946
@hanselfinn8946 3 жыл бұрын
I thing we can learn is just be gratefull for what we have
@evank3718
@evank3718 4 жыл бұрын
I love this animation style
@aauliridan404
@aauliridan404 4 жыл бұрын
someone needs to print "get out of my sunshine" on a t-shirt and sell it. i would happily buy it lol.
@SevilAbbasova-p9m
@SevilAbbasova-p9m 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea! Thanks!
@ynbfill2270
@ynbfill2270 3 жыл бұрын
Waste of money
@RS-yq1ty
@RS-yq1ty 3 жыл бұрын
I guess Diogenes was in a way taking revenge from the society that condemned him by negating their rules....pretty clever
@assylblog
@assylblog 4 жыл бұрын
This video would have been a lot funnier if you included more full stories from the life of Diogenes
@belemflores1544
@belemflores1544 2 жыл бұрын
I've been called cynic several times over life, not like an insult but with a peyorative meaning... And well, this video is quite uplifting; I might as well be one
@warui-michi7295
@warui-michi7295 Жыл бұрын
always love Avi Ofer's work!
@sebastianelytron8450
@sebastianelytron8450 4 жыл бұрын
"Call me cynical but..." "Hi Cynical"
@JODRecaps
@JODRecaps 4 жыл бұрын
sup ely. big daddy eight thoughtssssss
@MisterCynic18
@MisterCynic18 4 жыл бұрын
Hey.
@Dgnz-du2nv
@Dgnz-du2nv 3 жыл бұрын
Call me cynical but..
@jov3247
@jov3247 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander The Great: Ask anything to me and i will give it to you. Diogenes : Just get out of my sunshine dude!
@matronakostalou6330
@matronakostalou6330 3 жыл бұрын
When Diogenes asked Alexander to move, Alexander said in awe if I wasn't Alexander i would like to be Diogenes
@anilkashyap1388
@anilkashyap1388 4 жыл бұрын
I am in love with the TED-ED animations
@javerikr
@javerikr Жыл бұрын
Thank you @TEDEd.
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