Resource based economy: Sue Everatt at TEDxPasseigDesBorn

[@jordanray6459]

It’s unbelievable when you think that if, the 22K people that have watched this video, were to get together we could all start this system for ourselves. Then, when other people see how this well this system works, will join us. Eventually we would be able to turn our world into great abundance. Jacque Fresco, rest his soul, gave his entire life to this system and we as a planetary community could put his ideas to practice so his life would have been for good. Jacque will one day be the greatest hero known to humanity.

[@ryanthompson9075]

If all 22k of you got together, you'd all look at each other for 2 seconds, say "sooo who knows how to build all that stuff in the video?". You'd all scratch your heads and then slowly starve...

[@yvonnevangilst9493]

And somebody needs to be there to start the revolution against the criminal ruling class which is repressing everybody and staying in power. We need a scientist, a wise philosopher to give speeches to inspire the hearts of people to change the world and rise up against the criminal ruling class. We need a wise philosopher to start the revolution.

[@Fnelrbnef]

But then, media would start calling it a cult, start a smearing-campaign, possibly start false rumors about the community. People would try to tear it down. Powers at be want their power.

[@MrHarveyrex23]

I would love to live in a system where I would never ever have to worry about money, food, housing, health care costs, college tuition costs, energy costs, poverty, wealth inequality, homelessness, unemployment, wars, etc ever again.

[@owatthorne2538]

"we actually pay to live on a planet that gives us everything for free and we are in debt"

[@criticalanimation9479]

Yes we have a obligation to take care of our home, now we have greedy pigs at the wheel. NOT a good ide.

[@maxyeap]

Pay the greedy leaders. Everything they own is theirs.

[@Willy_Tepes]

@@criticalanimation9479 We are letting the greedy pigs design a better system. That does not sound smart.

[@wakeupandflow]

I understand the sentiment but it takes technology and specialized skill to turn wind into energy. Take the windmill as an example. Wind is free, windmills aren’t. Similarly it would take money and specialized skill with technology to create a resource based economy. I do support the idea tho and would like to be part of the solution

[@thearchitect1601]

This is not communism, this is not socialism or capitalism, this is the future the future we need to push forwards towards.

[@JanColdwater]

I have been following Jacques Fresco for many years... may he RIP. He has left behind a legacy of hope for this entire planet. I am happy that TED Talk was brave enough to allow this woman to share his lifelong dream. I hope we come to this quickly, for life's sake.

[@brandonc.rochez7719]

Resource Based Economy is the kind of Future I want and I’ll be striving to make that a reality faster

[@curtseed11]

Any updates on your progress? The way I see it after ten years of following TVP/TZM as well as suffering through this capitalistic captivity, I've determined that if you want to provide an alternative, you must get billions of earthlings to indirectly pay for it by selling something unrelated and profit motivated. Get the credibility of being the creator of the one thing everybody can not live without and tell them you have something else to sell. Think of Zukks and facebook. If Zukks promotes a new Facebook brand, what will everybody do? Subscribe to the new social media website or try a new social media website nobody has ever heard of before?

[@Prague3203]

Have you heard of Andrew Yang? His centerpiece policy for UBI, along with his other 150+ policies and plans are the bridge to this future.

[@AtleeYarrow]

@@curtseed11 Steem is now open and future based on blockchain as is lbry dot tv for you tube replacements working towards a cashless society.

[@ryanmichelz94]

Communism is a resource based economy

[@gcod3d161]

@@curtseed11 or directly pay for it

[@mizztotal]

"We need to have an education that teaches us the better we make society for others, the better we make it for ourselves." Jacque Fresco first opened my eyes to this type of design and I regret he died before he could see his ideas come to fruition. Resourced-based planet management is the only sustainable solution for a joyous world.

[@imdoc7872]

I’ve been a huge Jacques Fresco fan for years. I agree, we must remove our current monetary system if we are going to have a fighting chance at survival of our species. Wonderful presentation.

[@johntan4718]

Absolutely true on all counts. Thanks for bringing this to light. A Resource Based Economy is inevitable. The aims and proposals of The Venus Project are realistic and must be looked at carefully and implemented. The monetary system is old and can no longer cope with today's technological advancement. The current economic module is also outdated and has no resilience against this pandemic for example. We must be brave and dream bigger, for a world where all the resources are declared the common heritage of mankind. No poverty, no politics and no wars.

[@bharatsv6409]

This is a phenomenal idea a world where everyone has enough of everything is what we need to create and bring it to existence

[@filippajak8431]

its not communism when you have access to everything and anything anytime.

[@Marcara081]

Filip Pajak It's fantasy then.

[@shake6321]

+PressForEarth What happens when i decide to burn gas because i don't want to use solar? What happens when I decide to build 100 robots who use 1/4 of all the solar power you are producing to serve me? What happens when i don't want to ride on a monorail and instead move around in a rocket ship powered by carbon fuels? Yes, Fresco's vision is impressive to people who want to follow his vision. To the rest of us, it's a nightmare.

[@shake6321]

Yes, so the RBE and Venus Project are basically telling everyone to trade their current masters for new ones. No Thanks... I'll take my chances with the greedy capitalist, at least I know their intentions: To make as much money off of me as they possibly can. The RBE and the Venus Project on the other hand presents itself as a sheep when in fact it is a wolf. I am not a big fan of people telling me what i can and cannot do. By the Grace of God, I've already figured out how to outsmart the capitalists and escape their shackles. I am not sure if i'd be able to outsmart the RBE and Venus Project and escape their shackles. Thus, I'll decide not to join or participate. Good Luck to you all. Peace!

[@shake6321]

The carrying capacity of the Earth is unknown. Stop listening to doomsday people. They are filling nonsense in your brain. Do you know that all the people on this planet can fit into 1 block? waitbutwhy.com/2015/03/7-3-billion-people-one-building.html The planet is empty. We are only limited by our knowledge and knowledge is infinite; therefore, we have no limitations. We now produce 100X as much food as we ever did and we use less land than 100 years ago. - Information Tech will reduce the human footprint by 50% in just the next 20 years. You watch. - Solar power is unlimited. - Water is unlimited once we get solar. - There are already groups that are preparing to mine asteroids that have more resources than the entire earth combined. BTW, there are Millions of asteroids. The world is better than ever before, but please do keep thinking that we are dying. I rather enjoy the one life i have than worry about nonsense. Watch some of this stuff. It'll make you happier. www.ted.com/talks/peter_diamandis_abundance_is_our_future?language=en www.ted.com/talks/ray_kurzweil_on_how_technology_will_transform_us?language=en Peace

[@TheFoodNut]

+Marcara081 What is so fantastic about having those enourmously well designed and efficient machines producing stuff for us, giving us services and being directed by modern technological solutions? I see possibility for advanced technology to produce every necessity we need to survive and thrive. It's not a fantasy it is just forward thinking and smart use of available resources\technologies.

[@caseros85]

All of those in favour of an RBE and the Venus Project, please stop insulting and arguing with attacks. If you want to reach people, first you have to use their value system, or you will lose them. Please, I encourage you all to keep reeducating yourselves about the Venus Projects and their goals before trying argue in its favour, because you are actually hurting the project instead of helping it.

[@sorlag110]

It's not beneficial either to make a comment like this, one part of the path towards a sustainable society is to put the responsibility of thinking in the invidual. It is not about pleasing, asking or telling anyone what to do or how to behave, it's about posing an alternative and letting people realize themselves which decisions to make.

[@caseros85]

***** Please. I encourage you to investigate about human behaviour and how to reach individuals. Realization does not come from only showing people an alternative, they also need the apropiate cognitive habilities to understand and process new information.

[@sorlag110]

I am well studied about human behaviour and how to reach people. Oh yes! You are saying that you need to have knowledge to come to realizations. I don't disagree, but I think that depends in which context you put it, alas I don't understand what you are trying to say.

[@maddyvandeveld927]

Elian Charif UNDERSTOOD

[@MultiKhush]

@@sorlag110 I asked my Heart How can we bring change?, My heart replied change wont come with free energy,new technology or more resources, it will come when we look out for each other, when we get together for better.

[@fernandoregis9851]

Reading some comments, it looks like some people think that it is a fight againt the current system. Its not, its just a better option to live, using the current resources. So, its useless to fight, trying to put our opinion. Instead, the RBE is an option, which is outside the box, and viable. So we need contribution, collaboration to extend this ideias or create new ones aligned to real resources towards an improving quality of life, globally of course. In other words, it is useless to be aggressive, so if we are proposing a transition from a "cart wain" to "electric train", dont try to argue using elements from the old paradigm, like horseshoe, horses or excrements, because doesnt make any sense. It is a change that will emerge from society, so we need all of you. And lets remember that, from the nature point of view, we are all the same, even being different ( very special ). and, "sorry if my english is poor.. im not native english speakr"

[@mstudio369]

I loved this Sue. You are fantastic at explaining this.

[@calderarecords]

Many people wondering HOW we get there in the comments. Even Jacque himself said he could not elaborate on that because he would need to know exactly "when" it were to happen. And it would depend on several things: 1. How many people from different countries were willing - the more people, the easier it shall be. 2. The level of intelligence at that time - Right now, the planet is in denial. We need to get smart & quick. 3. The resistance of the bigots - the people in power right now would most likely trigger a war than to give it up. 4. The Level of Technology - Technology could offer tremendous advantages in relatively short time. 5. The quantity of Resources available - No stone or metal can be spared if we are to make a go of this. 6. Skilled Personnel - Everyone can learn & are welcome but we require the worlds leading structural engineers. 7. Location - This is important because building a VP city in the Dessert would add to the initial challenge. We can get there. There is a logical path, & even mistakes are considered a breakthrough in the Scientific field - getting us that bit closer to our goal. Keep talking people. We don't have much time to do this.

[@criticalthinker6736]

Very well and succinctly put. Will spread the word~

[@calderarecords]

@@criticalthinker6736 Well done. Yes, I & many others with open minds such as yourself want to give it a go.

[@EarthToCarlen]

Incredible and inspiring!! Thank you! Yay to Sue and TVP and Ted! (whoever he is!)

[@MrHarveyrex23]

The demise of capitalism would be a great thing. I support the Resource Based Economy

[@curtseed11]

You could create something that goes viral. When you have that platform promote RBE. But what could we create that would be very irresistible to go without and so dependent upon nobody would care if it's creators were anti-capitalist? I have an idea....some kind of new biological invention.

[@ericmccullar2274]

Very good Ted Talk. Better than the comments. I doubt they were very open to the idea. But thanks for your input too. I say stop thumbs downing them though. Doesn't help. let them say what they want. They are helping in their own way. Lots more where that came from and we got a little ways to go. Gotta accept EVERYONE. even these guys and the people you hate. Good luck with your area of influence.

[@marisafari1806]

"If machines produce everything we need, the outcome will depend on how things are distributed. Everyone can enjoy a life of luxurious leisure if the machine-produced wealth is shared, or most people can end up miserably poor if the machine-owners successfully lobby against wealth redistribution. So far, the trend seems to be toward the second option, with technology driving ever-increasing inequality"- Stephen Hawking

[@nathansmith3244]

Exaclt and it's simple to put in laws that no one person can own the production systems. They are owned by the people who consume the products.

[@seemlyme]

Who is going to keep secret knowledge as such as making of nuclear bomb? and Who is going to take charge of repairing open source computer system of production in resource based economy? So we need some leaders too

[@nathansmith3244]

seemlyme. no one.. you program drones and bots to detect any amount of nuclear material and ruin it. make it to contaminated or separated to be useful. this also counts for every biological weapon or nuclear weapon on the planet. it destroys them. then as for the open source..

[@nathansmith3244]

seemlyme open source means everyone assists in putting ideas for improvement and repair. but a program like Watson decides which best fixes or meets the needs of the system based off available data and components.

[@seemlyme]

Nathan smith who is going to control the system or charge? Accountability? Who is going to control the secret knowledge such as atomic bomb?

[@Airbiscuitmaker]

It's not a fantasy my friend. It is quite a plausible alternative that could fundamentally solve global problems we are facing today instead of just combating the symptoms of it. Cybernation, robotic automatisation and AI will render human labor eventually obsolete. The money system once worked well, but slowly and steadily it's doing more damage and blocks genuine progress. On economic, social, scientific and environmental areas the money-based economy starts becoming obsolete.

[@MaximilianoCarlosRipetta]

Excellent Sue!!! Well done! There is hope! 2019!

[@Profemiliomorles]

TVP = better world for everyone

[@danilip8496]

Why this project should be labelled as "the venus project". It should be an open source project, welcoming any new and great ideas from all over the world, rather than putting Jacque Fresco on a pedestal. This project is the culmination of all the emerging innovative ideas and there're lots of brilliant minds whose ideas deserve to be taken into attention and incorporated into the project. I think it should be titled something as "sustainable planet" open source project.

[@ironjohnlad]

Brilliant ! So well done !

[@ComplexMissy]

All of us take things from other people here and there and expand on them and make them our own over time. There really are few people who have truly original ideas anymore especially when information is so easily shared. Who "owns" what doesn't have any bearing on the ideas or the value of having a resource based economy.

[@enive2003]

Danil, Fresco himself says that his designs are not THE designs, they are just examples, that his concept is a starting point. And he also says the designs are supposed to be modular and highly customizable to any individual's needs. Of course, any other designs that fit the requirements of being energy-efficient, eco-friendly, offer maximum safety againsy any natural hazards etc. are absolutely acceptable. He doesn't say his way is the only way, he says an RBE is the only way.

[@GnosticNomad]

this needs to be shared as much as possible, simple

[@thearchitect1601]

Sue: Robots don’t take holidays , they don’t get sick, and they don’t start UNIONS the capitalists: ok, u got my attention now.

[@katherandefy]

And this is why the mechanization that has led to automation means far fewer jobs. They’ve been on this idea since the 1960s. Well before I was born.

[@mrjonno]

Excellent presentation of the RBE. I really liked Sue's delivery, unfortunately JF is too old to do this any longer. Peter Joseph gives a more intellectual and thorough analysis but this hits an easy to understand and maybe warmer spot. I think we see so many negative images of what we are doing to ourselves and the planet that a more positive take like this may be more powerful for change. Unfortunately the 1% aren't going to change any time soon, they don't need to from their perspective, and they control the media for the most part. If we actually could start talking about an RBE in the mainstream I'm sure it would rapidly gain ground. The problem is that it is not in the interest of the corporatocracy that currently runs the show. Therein is the dilemma - exposure.

[@danilip8496]

Thank You for presenting this idea without any intellectual ego attached, or in a pushy way, or as if it was the only way, unlike Mr. Fresco. It's one thing to be a great designer, and it's quite different to be able to present your idea in a proper manner. But still I would rather a high level of personalization and customazation options built into the system in terms of archechtural design rather than being offered only fresco designs just because he's the designer of the project.

[@katherandefy]

Danil Ip, there are literally millions of designs and add-ons however until the system starts up the examples are what The Venus Project has built in Venus, Florida. The buildings are made by computer generated extrusion methods and they can look like domes, or many other shapes.

[@goransvraka3171]

What can we all do to make this a reality....I hate working for money!

[@TheBandFiles]

To make what they call "RBE" a reality would require much more automation to eliminate work for pay. Meanwhile, in the world that still requires work to be done, let's say you worked a full-time job in exchange for housing, food, medical care and the various amenities of individual life-no money involved; would you have any personal choice in what housing, food, products etc. that you consume? Wouldn't you prefer to be paid in a unit of exchange that allowed you to select your personal allocation of resources?

[@TomRBEForever]

It's sad how a important and interessant subject like a Resourced Based Economy have to little views like this video.

[@l.awaller1852]

I love the idea and it is not impossible as people are quick to say but implementation is extremely complex. No one is going to down everything and just start doing it. Small scale is the key here, building a micro sized city (toy sized model) to represent those pictures shown and demonstrate how a computer can control what we need to satisfy basic needs such as food production, water treatment and transportation. After that add other needs like production of things we need If you can successfully build a micro sized functioning system that physically carries out all these things you say maybe people will be more willing to entertain the idea rather than dismiss it upon hearing it.

[@Airbiscuitmaker]

It's not quite a religion. On the contrary, it is a very down to Earth approach, with human interest being put at the first place. But here is a question I want to ask you: What is your proposal? What is the alternative according to you how to really deal with the many mundane problems we are facing today?

[@MrKane101111]

The sound is very soft. Maybe someone could reupload with volume?

[@hardtaill70]

What would we do if we didn't have to work for money? We would work for pure joy! Go to a career we love instead of a job we hate. Have the opportunity to go to school and learn what we want to learn and follow our hearts desires... instead of choosing a job we hate just to pay the bills. This is not Communism... this is free people working together for a common good... not controlled by a single Communist dictator or by big government. People helping people... like it was meant to be.

[@PlacidThaKid]

All work will be automated, and the jobs that currently cant will be done voluntarily until they can. Human beings will spend their lives doing what they enjoy, what ever that may be. People don't lose incentive when they're doing what they want.

[@barbaranolte6935]

I like it!!! Let‘s do it! I trust artificial intelligence. Our smartest people from all over the world,our best engineers and scientists working together on a plan . The Megacomputer record everything. Ideals, suggestions and insights. So we will find a solution together. When money is no longer an issue, then we will find sensible solutions. Solutions that ensure that our great-grandchildren in the seventh generation continue to enjoy this beautiful earth.

[@meghalayaridechennai1410]

1)RBE is society which neglected politics and monetary which main issues for poverty, crime.. 2)FULL AUTOMATION in agriculture, construction and mining help reduce the stress in society and provide food and shelter 3) Renewable energy and free transport provide easy portability 4) education is unbaised and open resources for science to contribute future technology in future resources were extracted from space astroid and other planets, so their need for any destruction on Earth.. stay united

[@sthengr]

Excellent!

[@TerraRubicon]

Seeing the comments by anarcho-capitalists here I can't help remembering what another KZbinr said to me about that group. 'Having a debate with anarcho-capitalists about a Resource Based Economy is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how well you play the pigeon is going to shit all over the board and parade around like it has won.'

[@justintempler]

Neither Wildpoldsried nor Findhorn was an example of an RBE so I guess that makes you the pigeon?

[@TerraRubicon]

Justin Templer It sure was. Both villages generate their own power and most of their own food. It's there for those that are willing to see it. You and the other an-caps don't want to see it. In the years that I've seen you comment on KZbin there has been one constant. You always bitch and moan. You show no empathy for a RBE, or for the needs of your fellow human beings for that matter. Those are the hallmarks of a psychopath...

[@justintempler]

TerraRubicon Findhorn produces only 50-70% of it's "fresh food" and only 30% of it's energy watch?v=IDP19Q8ZS-8- RBE fail Wildpoldsried - a village with farmers that sell their subsidized electricity through government force. That's "crony- capitalism" not an RBE. P.S. I didn't see any electric powered farm machinery RBE fail. "You and the other an-caps..." I'm not an-cap. and neither was Meurtos or Kush. TerraRubicon fail. I have lots of empathy Ed, I feel sorry for you.

[@TerraRubicon]

Justin Templer Again you bitch, moan, insult and try to tear down anything outside your market utopia. Psychopathic. Wikipedia article mentions that Findhorn produces over 70% of its fresh food requirements. Wildpoldsried produces 3 times its energy but you conveniently don't mention that because that doesn't help cyber demolition job. Your conduct is just sickening.

[@justintempler]

TerraRubicon I linked to a video produced by Findhorn that directly contradicts you and you're going to quote mine from Wikipedia in your defense? Seriously? Actually some figures say the Wildpoldsried 'Mafia' produces 500% of it's energy [electricity] , That doesn't change the fact that Wildpoldsried receives €5.7 million in profit a year from taxpayer subsidized government "investments" while 300,000 taxpayer households can't afford to pay their electricity bills because the government .has forced them to pay for subsides they can't afford. I'm playing chess and you're the pigeon. Please stop shitting all over the board.

[@RebornLeveller]

Is there a version of this with better sound quality. I don't have external speakers and can barely hear her. :/

[@katherandefy]

I used headphones.

[@SheenaVocals]

Brilliant! :)

[@IvanLopezioloo]

Vixi, podrías doblar la TED?? :)

[@curtchuradalibedadi]

Iván López Sí, sí. www.amara.org/pt/videos/NeIJd4s8izl8/info/resource-based-economy-sue-everatt-at-tedxpasseigdesborn/?tab=video

[@trecemundos]

Iván López Iván, lo mismo se anima Elena a doblarlo, tiene buena voz para esas cosas ¿Que te parece? ;)

[@IvanLopezioloo]

Pero casi que prefiero que lo doble la mismísima.

[@trecemundos]

Me ha dicho que no, porque no tiene equipo adecuado.

[@thecompassionateworld1582]

Science and technology can disconnect money from human consciousness, and every aspect of human behavior will change. Spiritualists, that is how we apply true enlightenment. We do it through science and build a world where the self-improvement of consciousness is no longer the major idea because the systems we live offer that in abundance. We could say, the systems do not drag our consciousness down into the gutter of money. Our collective consciousness improves together and at a faster rate than the individual approach of improving consciousness.

[@danilip8496]

Thanks for clarification

[@hardtaill70]

What the hell difference does the title make? Its the content that's important.

[@weirdalpleasenoticeme]

I cant believe so few people are talking about this theory in 2021

[@ErikaGGbeauty]

It is an interesting talk...! I investigated about this in the Venus project . com . And I liked what they show as an alternative to change this crazy monetary system. life can be better...!

[@claudiom1383]

Jacque Fresco, a genious to be followed NOW!

[@SkyPanther8]

This is pretty much the economy that Gene Roddenberry used in Star Trek. Personally, I hope this will happen one day. But I feel we will have to go through a thought revolution for that to happen.

[@luckyx360]

Benjamin Babeshkin ummm u know gene got that idea from....it's venus project....it was known as sociocyberneering well before start trek

[@SkyPanther8]

The federation did not use money on earth: en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Money Money in the 21st century sense was not used on 24th century Earth. The exact nature of the Federation economy is difficult to describe; while money had not entirely ceased to exist, it did not play the central role in the lives of Federation and Earth citizens that it once did.

[@TheFoodNut]

Probably just the revolution of thinking, mentality and our approach one to another would be enough. If we all had advanced mentality we could start building this system the very next day. That's why Sue went out to the people to show them this new fascinating possibility.

[@ADyingFaith]

KZbin The Zeitgeist Movement Moving Forward to see how we can transition from a monetary system to a natural law resource based economy.

[@dianesmele-davidsuzukiss2635]

This would be great if people share...

[@radevil]

I'm not defending the monetary system, RBD needs a soild foundation on exactly how is this going to work and with my comments I'm pushing you to think in different perspectives, ask yourself questions, like an engineer or a scientific does. I believe in RBD but we need to get this to reality in small scale in order to prove that it works and if it doesn't then at least we tried.

[@Zonfeair]

Wow I can not believe I have not seen this when it was made. I get the feeling she has been spying on me because I have been saying everything she said for 30 years.

[@CAIN8K4]

Ibeen losing my mind for the last 5 years when I realised so I know the feeling.

[@g79o]

sound is too quiet !!!

[@MrShakamuni01]

It makes complete sense but how would say the first country like Iceland transfer into this economy being that food, energy, water, import goods and export goods, etc needs to keep flowing without pause. Anybody have any good links?

[@saeedbaig4249]

+Alexis Tudor It couldn't be really achieved if the country is not ENTIRELY self-sufficient (otherwise it would have to import certain stuff, and thus would require money). That's why a true RBE would have to be on the size of at least a continental scale.

[@nathansmith3244]

it is achievable but must be scaled up and don't very efficiently. What resources does that country have? Glass? Plastic? Iron? Salt from the ocean? You make a complex detailed inventory, then set a number of scientist to work using only the products they have readily available. I personally would start work on huge vertical greenhouses on the southwest sides of all large buildings, I would also start building geothermal and huge factories to be converted to fully automated factories. Get to work on bots. Bots that learn simple tasks. Break everything down. Also build tons of bots that make bots. A robot the size of a car welder making 100 people sized bots, and in turn those people size bots making 100 small dog sized. Those need to run on electric, and they need to be solar and wind powered. Not fast either. If they make one bot a day your on a good path. Cause in a week you have 5 people size and 10 dog size bots. in one week. Now one month from then you have enough to run one whole factory. in a year enough to run the entire process. Those bots might do things as simple as fold a Tee shirt, or move Tee shirt from pile a to b, or put car tire on and tighten bolt. Another passes the tire from the flat truck to to bot that puts it on. Break every step down. They can work 24/7 and when one breaks down a bot removes it from the line and repairs it. or recycles it. A program monitors every moment for flaws. errors in movement or changes in friction or speed occur that bot is pulled off. It constantly replaces parts

[@katherandefy]

I think the best place to start is the US. We have the 3rd largest population and land mass on the planet. We also already command so many of the resources. That’s a good start. And it would be a great way to actually live democratically instead of greedily and under the almighty corporation. But I agree that it will take great coordination and planning. I hope someone is working on it. At first, it will mean money. And the economic screwup that is the pandemic means that we need a resource based economy now more than even. We needed it before but now it is being demonstrated that the monetary system is not sustainable for the long term. Especially since it isn’t working now.

[@eveningdim7167]

Having trouble listening to the video, there's a screeching in the background >.o

[@tronlegacy134]

I love the idea of the venus project. My problem is timing. Will we force to the transition when we are at an advance stage of global warming. The transition from neoliberal capitalism to a resource base economy. How do we eliminate a system oligarchies and institutions systems and governments who are complicit would rather see short term profit gains over the destruction of the species? And may alternatively find ways to try and absorb resource base economy system model in a capitalist system in a sort of dystopian society. And lastly, the people who will invented the new technologies for the resource base economy. How do we prevent power structures from forming from our cultural conditioning?

[@radevil]

I could probably lay on my bed, eat and get fat all day playing video games. Communism economy prays that we all share the results of our work, private property dissapears in change of common property, we work until we get a super abbundance system that everyone will be free of stress because all the basic needs will be covered and you'll focus your time and efforts on growing as a human being

[@katherandefy]

Edgar Contreras no you don’t work. Because automation.

[@medviation]

RBE is the ultimate free market.

[@creamone]

Someone once said is there intelligent life on Earth? Another way to say that question is, "Is there enough intelligent life on Earth?"

[@TerraRubicon]

There are already real life examples of what we advocate. Eco villages such as Wildpoldsried in Germany and Findhorn in Scotland produce all of their energy through solar and wind. Findhorn produces most of its own food. Look up the Wikipedia articles. Evidence for some of the things we advocate.

[@violetlightburst]

7 years later & they are blocking out the sun & getting better @ it.

[@-.---.-.-.-]

The society that was visualized and described looked terrifying, seems like you would be a prisoner of society, having to live your life in a very specific way. I wouldn't be able to live in that society, but of course a resource based economy doesn't have to be made exactly in that fashion.

[@LizaPolitical]

Brilliant!

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

no money -> no prices -> no economic calculation -> production decisions have to be made in the dark -> basic needs go unmet. Deal with this, or reject RBE.

[@oskarverheul3063]

The big question is how are we going to create a resource based economy? Even if we all decided to create the resource based economy how are we going to make it. Are people going to use machines to create it? So yes, why would they make it if there is no money they get for making it.

[@sumobowler3790]

too much to type, watch full length features on The Venus Project KZbin channel

[@TheSoapThatCan]

It's titled Resource Based Economy. The Venus Project is just Frescos "group/organization".

[@danilip8496]

What would u do if u didn't have to work for money, if all your basic needs were met and would be your birth right? I guess you would probably do the stuff u enjoy most, take care of your health, travel, and just enjoy your life. What's the greater incentive for a person to do something he enjoys other than his true passion for it? So how is this similar to commusist economy? And how about questioning what you read and the authors of those books rather than taking their words at a face value?

[@justintempler]

You don't have real life examples, Wildpoldsried is a farming community that relies on it's ability to export excess electricity to the grid, it has no ability to store that energy for it's own use, without the fossil fuel grid to regulate and smooth out the erratic and irregular energy they produce it would be worthless. Erratic producers like Wildpoldsried put a strain on the grid that depends on regulated dispatchable electricity.

[@TerraRubicon]

Do we RBE advocates say we should use money? I typed in your link, got a webpage that says the article doesn't exist. But those energy prices, is it the state's fault or are energy companies raising their prices because they have less revenue? When the bottom line is money and profit every party is going to maximize that and blame the other party for when something goes wrong. What's happening in Germany is probably a synergy. Companies seeking revenue, green policy by the state yet max taxation

[@keiravii4012]

2021???

[@kiwioleskool9438]

I love this idea as long as we don't have to be ruled!

[@kiwioleskool9438]

And leave all negative energy at the door

[@ADyingFaith]

KLJF living without rulers is not the same as living without rules. We will always be bound by natural law but we will never know freedom and live within true morality while we believe in the false legitimacy of authority, money and government. It creates artificial scarcity of resources causing all the war, poverty and greed and power differentials.

[@Airbiscuitmaker]

It's absolutely no cult, on the contrary.

[@radevil]

Maybe I didn't make myself clear, I understand that it preaches a scientific foundation, BUT, RBD economic theory lacks of scientific foundation itself. It is a bit more complicated than just say that a computer will do everything for us, we need to elaborate on how the process will be with numbers and clear strategies. And I say WE because I support this movement, but this movement must be scintific from the beginning than a political movement which is what I've seen so far.

[@TerraRubicon]

You point out where this is going yourself. Yes, most folks worked in agriculture but due to machines and automation the jobs became obsolete. Nowadays most work in the service sector but more automation is creeping in as well. Where's the next sector? Did you know NASA is developing systems for future Mars missions where the astronauts grow their own food for 18 months? Such projects eventually find their way to the common man.

[@justintempler]

Tomasz Pioszyk says" Just remember this, it's people like us that advance the world" So said...Marx, Lenin, Mao, Chavez, Kim Jong-un

[@justintempler]

***** "it's gonna take another couple of (a few) hundred years." An admission on your part that your big innovative idea is nothing but a dream. You haven't figured out how to get there, you have no clue how long it will take to reach your dream. Many people shared your dream... .Marx, Lenin, Mao, Chavez, Kim Jong-un "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" Albert Einstein

[@justintempler]

***** " Neither does it have to be exactly as Fresco has drawn it." You have no clue how long it will take, you have no clue how to get there. You don't even know where you are going and what it looks like. So much for the scientific method...

[@justintempler]

***** Slavery was imposed by men, scarcity is imposed by the reality of nature. You are born into a finite world, your body and brain are constructed out of finite materials that will exist for a finite amount of time.You are born into a world of scarcity that no amount of dreaming is going to change. What you're left with is a religious belief that scarcity can be overcome in a finite world in direct contradiction to science and the scientific method.

[@justintempler]

*****"who says that scientific way is the whole sollution?" TZM and TVP says, that's who.. Their whole premise of doing away with money and distributing resources is based on the idea that the scientific method can determine the most efficient use of a resource. Now you're telling us that won't work. So much for your critical analysis.

[@justintempler]

***** Great, your idea of a RBE is in conflict with the main premise of Freso's and Merola's definition of a Resource Based Economy. You're intelligent enough to realize people don't share the same VALUES and that they will disagree. There's no such thing as good science or bad science. Science doesn't come with inherent VALUES. A little hint: ALL economies are based on resources, and we have this tool called money. We use it as a medium of exchange to trade for the resources we VALUE so we don't have to all agree. All you need is enough people willing to exchange their resources for a resource you VALUE more. Bottom line we are already in an RBE system one that uses money because we disagree on what we value.

[@PonchoRamirez1989]

Unfortunately, and this goes for, in large part to much of the zeitgeist movement too, the RBE concept is largely the culmination of Jacque Fresco's life work and he's put a hell of lot of time and energy into the project. Regrettably however a lot of the people jumping on board, while with good intentions may not be quite as qualified to talk about such things... for what it's worth I reckon Sue did an 'OK' job but I understand why you say that.

[@danilip8496]

I don't like the TVP label, reminds me of copyrights and gives the sense of the project being framed. I would rather a title something like a "sustainable planet" which is more neutral and the title itself tells the meaning.

[@KevinBeal]

Federal reserve notes are created from debt and used to steal from the poor. It's value is in the fact that everyone is forced to use it. Bitcoin (for example) is not based on debt, steals from no one, has genuine value and is money. It enhances the lives of the people who use it. Both are (strictly speaking) technologies. Blaming money is like blaming the fist that punches you in the face. Money actually means something. It's not what RBE advocates say it is.

[@katherandefy]

Kevin Beal, the debt is not money but it’s in money transactions. Using currency as a mode to assign value is an extra additional step padded into the distribution of physical resources.

[@KevinBeal]

@@katherandefy no. It's not in Bitcoin transactions

[@iahima22]

tvp is everything a man can dream on this life and after. plz share this video and have a good look on the venus project . thank you

[@KevinBeal]

Every economy is resource-based. Economics is the _science_ of the exchange of resources. Money is a technology, and innovation in money has been stopped by threat of violence. Money can be a wonderfully beautiful technology that increases everyone's quality of life, but it can't when it's issuance is done by a violent monopoly and it's value undermined by predatory inflation. Money ≠ federal reserve notes, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either ignorant or exploiting you.

[@TheBandFiles]

Try paying your taxes with anything else, and you'll find out what is money and what is not. Money is a legally defined thing, and the US$ is money by definition.

[@gillisleighola]

It’s potentially quite like Huxley’s ‘Brave New World’...great subject for discussion, I’m afraid that all our old architecture will be torn down and replaced which, though I love the ideas and the protection of the environment from humans, would really upset me...

[@dustinkftw]

Resource Based Technocracy

[@KevinBeal]

Saying that money is merely a medium of exchange and then go from that to say that money-based systems are evil (structural violence), that is to imply that voluntary exchange is evil. No one ever says this explicitly because it's completely ridiculous, but that is the logical conclusion of this kind of thinking. Please learn some basic economics before you make such claims.

[@katherandefy]

Kevin Beal it used to be that people brought resources physically themselves and in order to survive they used money as a way to make up for the loss in resource once those resources are delivered. The Venus Project’s concept of a resource based economy is that the process of distributing resources can be (and increasingly already is being) done by automation, including transporting. This is a very recent development. Structural violence is a problem baked into the old system because anyone without a resource or enough money is outside the sphere that allows for participation in the monetary system. All the ways into that system other than charity involve human rights violations. For instance, public poor relief programs are notorious for housing inspections, privacy infringements, and work/income limits all of which systemically keep the poor impoverished.

[@KevinBeal]

@@katherandefy you didn't respond to what I said

[@justintempler]

"Why is it that the farmers would actually stop growing the crops.." Because farmers are not slaves, get back to us when you start working for free.

[@godsivu]

None of this will be possible without our access to the unlimited energy around us, as Nikola Tesla had intended. Also, all our acomplisments are in vain if we continue to build on the ground without the option of relocating or at least getting off of the ground. With all the technology we boast, we should be creating this, instead of just talking. The time is NOW>> facebook.com/projectmagrav/

[@Gregarious3]

We might be able to get there one day but, would require more tech than we have today and cost trillions or more to get started. Imagine Logan’s Run.

[@MRMARKLB]

We have the technology already, we need the right conditions for a RBE to occur. Unfortunately that will probably require the collapse of the monetary system. The initial city that will be built won't cost trillions. Once we begin to transition the costs as per a monetary system will lessen as money will lose its value.

[@royramirez6278]

10:40 Love when she gets passionate here. :)

[@edruceross]

If resources based economy is implemented successful, i wonder what hip-hop artist going to rap about.🤔

[@pengu1924]

There will still be hoes my friend dont worry

[@TerraRubicon]

Hey Justin. What are you doing here? I thought you said that TVP and TZM was dead. That was last year though. Did you change your mind? Farming is on the brink of further automation as well. You free market advocates don't want to see it but if you have cars right now that can drive themselves it's only a matter of time before tractors&harvesters get them as well. Even less work for the farmer. Don't you think jobs/working hours will decrease by automation?

[@DaveWard-xc7vd]

Hey! HAVE A PLAN IF YOU PLAN TO HAVE.

[@yrelleH]

I wish everyone can konw the fact, before the "ENDING" of human beings.

[@JML689]

PUT SUBTITLES PLEASE!

[@tomaszpioszyk7656]

Look, all bullshit aside. At one point in time there were people like you who said that man will never fly. I'm not going to respond to you again, because you clearly don't have the tools to inquire into an RBE, nor do you really want them. Just remember this, it's people like us that advance the world, and it's people like you who hold it back. This isn't an attack on you. I understand you and I feel sorry for you

[@hardtaill70]

But money is not voluntary. In a monetary system as we have now, money is a REQUIREMENT. Try to eat without it. Try to have heat in the winter without it. Try to have a roof over your head without it. Try to do ANYTHING without it and tell me again how it is voluntary. That's the problem with money, its not the money itself, its the love of it that causes the abuse of it. Again... its used as a tool for control and as long as we have such a tool as MANDATORY, it will always be abused.

[@thoughtsurferzone5012]

Humans lived in a RBE for most of their existence. If Joe caveman needed a water bag, he made the best one he could and then stopped. Cyclical consumption is a recent invention.

[@TheOneAndOnlyDaan]

Hi im back!

[@radevil]

it is what you imagine it would be, but in communism countries, the peoples needs were covered at the beginning because the government provided those, the problem was, that people once they had it all covered, they became lazy and the spiral of death started... It happened in Russia, and it's happening in all socialist latin american countries, open source software might gives us the clue on how to find a system that incentivates people to grow each day of their lives.

[@katherandefy]

The industial era had only just started maybe 50 years prior to the Bolshevik Revolution. Today tech has far outpaced much of our ability to meaningfully contribute and manufacture. And the work conditions were miserable and dangerous. Just building infrastructure which is absolutely basic and essentail was and still is by far the most dangerous deathly work. What did it take to industrialize America? Consumer culture via the Ad Council and implementaton of the New Deal, along with work programs but it was WWII that catapulted America into the industrial age. So now we need to make a new shift into the new AI automation era. How we do it is an important decision.

[@certifiedforkliftdriver9987]

But then what is the point of living if you can't gain anything?

[@katherandefy]

Have we gained anything since the ages of the past? Everyone has a cell phone and information. Nobody had that until around the year 2000. Can you find better prices now? Yes. Can you buy better quality? Only if you are wealthy and then only if it is being manufactured in great enough quantity to make the business of making high quality products viable. So in a resource based economy with all resources in common, the products would be of much better quality. You would gain that. The waste stream would not be clogged with planned obsoletion as a business plan for monetary gain. You would gain health, cleaner air, cleaner water, cleaner food, cleaner products, and cleaner environment. You would feel better.