Animal Welfare and the Future of Zoos | Ron Kagan | TEDxOaklandUniversity

[@DawnForsythe]

"Unless an animal can thrive... we shouldn't do it." Thank you, Ron.

[@AryChhaya]

Please tell me why this doesn't have more views

[@EarthwiseawareOrgsite]

"Unless an animal can thrive in our environment in our region whether its climate or space or social dynamics we shouldn't do it. The only thing we should do is have animals that can thrive in our environment..." Obviously zoos won't cease to exist tomorrow, but this view of what they could be is definitely a good step in the right direction. We're happy to see that some institutions understand that compassion and empathy have to be at the root of the new zoos. The large majority of zoos are not there, and do not promote this attitude in their visitors either. Thanks for this positive talk and keep pushing for changes...

[@samanthadark5589]

A great speech - I look forward to the day when zoos all over the world are not just prisons, but as Ron said, are a great quality of life for all animals.

[@thejack9178]

That will never happen

[@Englishlearner-go9kz]

👍👏

[@casienwhey]

There is a conflict between compassion and profit. I doubt zoos are in business to lose money so unless the animals on display draw customers, zoos don't get that revenue. So, what might be best for the animals - large enclosures in rural locations, without being put on display, and being given some peace and solitude - is not in the interests of selling tickets. As long as that is the case, I don't see that zoos are going to be able to give the animals a better life. Some of them may wish to, but it's a question of what is feasible given their business models.

[@peridot2912]

i feel like these new practices should be called something other that "zoos" to get rid of the cruelty connotation. Sanctuaries or reserves.

[@orlybabe]

Peridot its not a sanctuary by any definition if the animal is caged in an enclosed space and people can pay money to ooh and aah at them and take photos. It’s not a reserve unless its a protected forest where wild animals can thrive and live free. A zoo is a zoo because its imprisonment for life for animals.

[@andrewb6194]

Peridot I think the term “Conservation Center” has some untapped potential. Or maybe “Nature Center”.

[@IIlnik]

Zoological garden is the term for you

[@bunymn1]

You don't want zoos, dolphin parks, meat etc. So animals go extinct is your aim?

[@MartinStefanovFilms]

This guy talked as a real politician! I hope people are intelligent enough not to believe in his bullshits! There are about 12 000 zoos around the world out of which only 1000 are recognized for their good animal care. "Good" according to people like this politician. Zoos have not succeeded in conservation of species. Only 19 zoos in the world include reintroducing species back in the wild. Only 12% of the zoos have registered for captive breeding and conservation. Zoos just capture wild animals for gaining profits. When animals die zoos just capture new animals. This is just a business for them. Also, around 95% of all species that ever were on the earth are already extinct, so why is the human always trying to fix the Mother nature? All the facts that I just mentioned I have from scientific literature. I'm now working on my Master's thesis on Animal Rights and zoos and the more I read the more disgust I feel about zoos.

[@burrohorror]

Martin I agree with you but do you have a book or an article where i can find the information

[@MartinStefanovFilms]

Advances in tourism : The critical turn in tourism studies : Creating an academy of hope (2) (2013). In Ateljevic I., Morgan N. and Pritchard A. (Eds.), . Florence, US: Routledge. Retrieved from site.ebrary.com/lib/ulapland/docDetail.action?docID=10542222&ppg=2 Bostock, S. (1998). Natural entertainments. Nature, 391(6669), 757. Cochrane, A. (2009). Do animals have an interest in liberty? Political Studies, 57(3), 660-679. doi:10.1111/j.1467-9248.2008.00742.x European animal health strategy action plan. (2009). Veterinary Record: Journal of the British Veterinary Association, 164(14), 440. FENNELL, D. A. (2012a). Tourism, animals and utilitarianism. Tourism Recreation Research, 37(3), 239-249. FENNELL, D. A. (2012b). Tourism, animals and utilitarianism. Tourism Recreation Research, 37(3), 239-249. FENNELL, D. A. (2013). Tourism and animal welfare. Tourism Recreation Research, 38(3), 325-340. Gross, M. (2015). Can zoos offer more than entertainment? Current Biology, 25(10), R394. doi:10.1016/j.cub.2015.04.056 Hamilton-Smith, E. (2011). Zoos and tourism: Conservation, education, entertainment. World Leisure Journal, 53(2), 149-150. doi:10.1080/04419057.2011.580554 Keulartz, J. (2015). Captivity for conservation? zoos at a crossroads. Journal of Agricultural & Environmental Ethics, 28(2), 335-351. doi:10.1007/s10806-015-9537-z Klenosky, D. B., & Saunders, C. D. (2007). Put me in the zoo! a laddering study of zoo visitor motives. Tourism Review International, 11(3), 317-327. Ladwig, B. (2015). Against wild animal sovereignty: An interest-based critique of zoopolis. Journal of Political Philosophy, 23(3), 282-301. doi:10.1111/jopp.12068 Launer, J. (2015). Monkey business. Postgraduate Medical Journal, 91(1072), 117-118. doi:10.1136/postgradmedj-2014-133229 Mason, P. (2007). Roles of the modern zoo: Conflicting or complementary? Tourism Review International, 11(3), 251-263. Mills, J., McLellan, D., & Williams, K. (2013). Zoo theatre: A performance approach to conservation interpretation. IZE Journal, (49), 26-28. Mkono, M., Ruhanen, L., & Markwell, K. (2015). From netnography to autonetnography in tourism studies. Annals of Tourism Research, 52, 167-169. doi:10.1016/j.annals.2015.03.002 Moen, O. M. (2016). The ethics of wild animal suffering. Nordic Journal of Applied Ethics / Etikk i Praksis, 10(1), 91-104. doi:10.5324/eip.v10i1.1972 Reiser, D. (2012). Zoos and tourism: Conservation, education, entertainment? Annals of Leisure Research, 15(1), 112-113. doi:10.1080/11745398.2012.670972 Shani, A. (2012). A quantitative investigation of tourists' ethical attitudes toward animal-based attractions. Tourism (13327461), 60(2), 139-158. Tribe, A., & Booth, R. (2003). Assessing the role of zoos in wildlife conservation. Human Dimensions of Wildlife, 8(1), 65-74. doi:10.1080/10871200390180163 Waples, K. A., & Stagoll, C. S. (1997). Ethical issues in the release of animals form captivity. Bioscience, 47(2), 115-121. Wickins-Drailov, D. (2006). Zoo animal welfare. Journal of Agricultural & Environmental Ethics, 19(1), 27-36. doi:10.1007/s10806-005-4380-2 Wilkinson, P. F. (2011). Zoos and tourism: Conservation, education, entertainment? edited by warwick frost. Leisure/Loisir: Journal of the Canadian Association for Leisure Studies, 35(4), 486-487. doi:10.1080/14927713.2011.648411

[@MartinStefanovFilms]

The ones above were scientific articles. Here are some books: Animal Rights, Oxford, Sunstein Nussbaunt; Animal Liberation by Peter Singer; A good author is Fennel

[@MartinStefanovFilms]

Zoos have a poor record in species conservation. (Frost, 2011, 228). According to Hancocks (2001 in Frost, 2011, 228) only five species have been saved from extinction by zoos. Only 2% of the world's threatened species are included in conservation programes by zoos and only 16 zoos in total have successfully reintroduced species into the wild (Shackley, 1996 in Frost, 2011, 228). Another problem with zoos is balancing their multiple roles is the fact that several surveys made worldwide indicate that zoo visitors are mainly there for recreational or entertainment purposes (De Courcey, 1995; Klenosky & Saunder, 2008 etc...) (Rita Bahne, HAAGA-HELIA)

[@MartinStefanovFilms]

Two more articles, I think you can download them from internet: file:///C:/Users/MAX/Downloads/36042_Shani_Ethics%20animal%20attractions_2008.pdf file:///C:/Users/MAX/Desktop/Master's%20Thesis/Animals&Zoos%20Articles/Singer_The_Animal_Liberation_Movement.pdf

[@MedusaOblongata]

my mother in law actually just got us tickets to the Detroit Zoo, and a large part of me does not want to go. In part, it's because I'm not ok with taking animals away from their families and their environments and imprisoning them in an environment a fraction of the size of their actual habitat. I don't feel like it's healthy to keep them seperated and in environments that are not their own. This video has encouraged me to at least go, and see things myself from an open minded perspective. I won't say I'm okay with it just yet, but I'll give it a shot. in my heart though, I just feel sad... I wouldn't want to be taken from my home without a choice....

[@rebeccarichardson7281]

+Rachel Troumbly It's important to understand that very few zoos today procur animals from the wild. Most animals are bred in captivity, under the direction of the species survival program. I completely understand where you are coming from, and I have visited some zoos internationally who still take animals from the wild...it's horrible. I refuse to work at a an institution that still culls from the wild (i.e. aquariums often do). However, wanted to assure you that many of the accredited zoos in the US do NOT get any animals from the wild, and many times their wild habitats are no longer available to them anyway. Zoos have come a long way in working to actually breed and reintroduce endangered species when possible, take in injured/rescued animals that come from really bad situations, and also raise a lot of money to support field conservation for wild species. Not all zoos, but many. On a side note - having worked in a zoo I know that the keeper staff and veterinary staff love those animals so much, and the health and wellbeing is of utmost importance to the majority of the people that work with them. It's a constant challenge to come up with the most creative ways to enrich their lives. Losing one of your animal family is really hard for the staff.

[@Alfonzo_the_Marine_Iguana]

What did you think in the end?

[@antipetaassociation4279]

most zoos rescue animals

[@venividivici6738]

Most zoos nowadays don't cspture animals

[@MartinStefanovFilms]

11 things you should know before going to the zoo: www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/29/sad-zoo-facts_n_5604313.html

[@simonbourguigne9988]

Anybody who eats beef on a regular basis and gets outraged about Zoos, IMHO has his/her moral compass a bit "misaligned".

[@danalexsmith]

Thank you.

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

Except, meat serves a legitimate purpose. Zoos do not, they are horrible freak shows of the 21st century

[@orlybabe]

Eating meat has nothing to do with zoos. We eat meat for nutrition. Should the meat industry be more ethical, considerate and pared back? Yes. Zoos on the other hand serve zero purpose, and caging wild animals for our entertainment and making money is downright wrong.

[@lk3899]

Simon Bourguigne I disagree, I Believe farm animals like cows, pigs, chickens etc.... are made to eat. Humans are naturally meat eaters we have teeth that are specifically helpful in order to break down meat. However I believe wild animals in forest and jungles are not meant to be ate. Cows and pigs and other farm animals won’t go extinct, But wild animals help the environment and we should protect the ones in immediate danger and at risk for extinction.......

[@jam5533]

@@orlybabe Some zoos do use the animals in educational reasons. Not like SeaWorld.

[@kirstinetermansen3227]

It was Victoria queens Zoo,. Sort sensation look a Now we have stars, acting Wired, in the sun, stages,

[@GiantPetRat]

Yes, but.... Where is all this money come for these new conservation centers?

[@quibily]

Araxie Rose Good question. I think it should come from all of us (government tax funds, grants, etc.) Once we realize we’ll all die out if we don’t fight to save the ecosystems that sustain us, we’re gonna realize we need to pay up or die out.

[@dominich8800]

any cmu students here ?

[@kirstinetermansen3227]

And you using, a technician Form of argument Talk against, zoo, but you are Hired,. By one

[@kirstinetermansen3227]

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[@kirstinetermansen3227]

They have no future We have, traveling,. And great Films,. The blue planet And we know better than Cage them,

[@nimotalkssense]

Remember when we're teenagers ..was one of the best explanations I've ever received and wish to impart them to my students children and also my fellow colleagues

[@itap2586]

true.. poor animals locked in cages.

[@kirstinetermansen3227]

I use to go,. But knowing more No

[@ibrahimhaneef6684]

Thank you for all these information

[@kirstinetermansen3227]

Stalker, pointe ...

[@markarnold7954]

We must see factory farming for what it is: perhaps the most likely cause of the next deadly pandemic. Once we do, we can unite, commit and build a path to a better food system for all: one that puts our health and that of our loved ones above all else

[@robertspaggiari7033]

The animals I love are critically endangered and facing extinction. Now, more than ever before, there is a need for scientifically valid animal welfare and conservation. Your comment is off the topic and at odds with the approach of this outstanding speaker. Scaremongering about pandemics and dogmatic rhetoric undermine the cause, even when I myself have issues with factory farming. I hope you will consider animals as "loved ones", and support the reforms being made by zoos, which are important in educating the public, and giving children experiences that shape the future.

[@LennarthAnaya]

This sounds promising

[@theecologist10]

People complained about having to isolate for a few months, imagine your entire life in an enclosure, away from your natural environment where youd normally roam thousands of miles

[@melanitex1089]

No Zoos should exist period.....

[@antipetaassociation4279]

yes zoos no peta

[@antipetaassociation4279]

@@settledmind1071 NO peta Yes zoos

[@antipetaassociation4279]

@@settledmind1071 zoos should exist period

[@IIlnik]

No periods, you fucks are so authorative, claiming to have right to halt the discussion. Debate should be eternal, and existanse of zoos should be always contested, but it doesnt necesarrily mean they should not exist. Visit at the zoo can be life changing for some, and people should continue quest of halping endagered Animals survive either in their naturalna habitat which is dar better or not.

[@nuk120]

Hey Vsause Nuk here wanna play with my toys