Political Correctness Works For No One | Jonathan Kay | TEDxUTSC

[@ddoris4118]

Hands down, the best definition of "Political Correctness" I have ever heard is by Bill Maher. Here goes: "THE ELEVATION OF SENSITIVITY OVER TRUTH". In a nutshell!

[@lahaza6515]

And then he goes on to agree with everything else they want. I loved when he said that too though.

[@faisonx]

Someone went a step further: The elevation of moral posturing about sensitivity, over truth

[@yteuropehdgaming9633]

Well put.

[@Venus.Y]

Well said

[@saimbhat6243]

No, political correctness is what acts as a dam to stop people using extreme rhetoric in the their discussions. There is a fine line between a reasonable criticism and outright bigotry, and that fine line is political correctness. E.g: There are some tenants in religion X that promotes division and violence among its followers. Now the above example is a politically correct statement, and is completely able to convey ones opinion. Now removing the political correctness, the same sentence can be framed as , The people who follow religion X are divisive and violent. You see when you remove political correctness, it opens the flood gates for bigotry.

[@BinaryReader]

Political correctness makes living in society unnecessarily awkward and difficult.

[@trollconfiavel]

Life must be too easy for you. Not having to deal with awkwardness and difficulty.

[@comdrive3865]

anyone who supports political correctness you can be sure is hiding something. usually a lot of awkwardness too

[@janneyovertheocean9558]

@@trollconfiavel He did say ‘unnecessarily’ - - - , to me that says his life is not without awkwardness and difficulty.

[@IndigoHazelnut]

And bring a lot of unnecessary suffering

[@trollconfiavel]

@@janneyovertheocean9558 unnecessary awkwardness and difficulty is what created political correctness

[@MisterMonsterMan]

This is the best TED talk I have seen in a long time. PC culture is ruining the western world at an alarming rate right now and it seems its almost "fashionable" among certain circles to sit back and let it happen.

[@WhatEver-yj5rg]

Not just west :)

[@frederickzoreta6617]

I SUPER, TOTALLY AGREE with you! I would say it’s like “the fall of Rome”. You can’t even tell the truth anymore & feelings have taken over facts. It’s so SAD & SCARY at the same time.

[@johannesmohner8695]

Serve the Republic Clone

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

dont call it PC culture thats morelike personal computer culture

[@warmflash]

Political Correctness is more about moral postering about sensitivity over truth.

[@piemakerproductions]

Absolutely. Fake morality to feel self righteous

[@warmflash]

Political correctness is authoritarianism under the guise of politeness. It's an elaborate form of lying used by people who try to devolve the conversation in their favor with no intellectual effort. - Ayaan Hirsi Ali

[@jamiedorsey4167]

Great quote. I like to say politeness is a position an individual may take regarding how they treat others and PC is about trying to make other people adopt all those same attitudes. Its about individual choice vs control.

[@croissant_ella690]

wow. that blowed my mind, thanks

[@timzxc08]

gonna use that one Oliver, thanks.

[@lrvogt1257]

Do you think I'm obliged to give you a platform? You can say any obnoxious thing you like. I can tell you what I think of it. This has nothing to do with government censorship. That some people are too sensitive about things is a given but that's not PC. It's personal opinion. Usually, PC is what people yell to deflect from their own offensive behavior.

[@sethmaginnipig1801]

Beautiful quote. Looked her up too. Fantastic woman.

[@rich5354]

I'm offended by political correctness 😂

[@bloxcarter]

We did it, boys. Political correctness is no more.

[@mcmickeys1446]

I’m PCphobic and I’m PROUD BABY

[@Xxrocknrollgod]

@@bloxcarter sure

[@joesoldchanneldeprecated5948]

@@bloxcarter Hooray

[@refreshyourpage._.0]

Everybody did but nobody dared to speak out

[@AmitSharmaTheMariachi]

Jonathan you are absolutely right about political correctness.

[@Tracey66]

Fascinating talk, and I applaud Mr. Kay's boldness in presenting it.

[@ellarobin5772]

This is video is so helpful and explains a lot! I immigrated a few years ago to the US and live in NY and this answers some questions I had and noticed I do think political correctness can be good when people’s feelings are on the other side but also we are human and we will die imperfect so this can an un forgiven, bully culture which is unrealistic and bad!

[@dianedong1062]

Politicians are professional manipulators. Why would anyone want to immitate them?

[@tekohaatawhai3697]

Likely because they have been manipulated

[@brittanyw7546]

This is so true right now

[@RacingSnails64]

So PC culture hurts people on the left just as much, if not moreso, than people on the right... Well said, good sir. Sounds absolutely exhausting to constantly put your thoughts under a checklist. Everyone should have the decency to take a moment and make sure you're being polite, not taking pleasure from what you're saying, but you should not have to *live in fear* of losing your job over accidentally saying the wrong term. Or worse--not even knowing what you did wrong.

[@aliasno.4andover644]

This is even more prevalent today.

[@mchammer5592]

Man, between learned offense and people using there social awareness as a barometer of their morality and self worth, this problem will NEVER be fixed.

[@lrvogt1257]

Without people thinking about society and morality we'd all be selfish brutes. People say offensive things then yell "PC" when people object. You say what you want and I'll say what I think about it.

[@sethmaginnipig1801]

@@lrvogt1257 and I’ll be happy to hear what you have to say. Doesn’t make either of us wrong, and doesn’t mean a persons lively hood should be shut down for an opinion. An opinion, you deem not correct, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

[@lrvogt1257]

@@sethmaginnipig1801 : Unless you're promoting hate speech or violence, I wouldn't think your business should or would be shut down. However, no independent private entity owes you a platform and no one is required to listen to you either. My stage, my choice. My related point is that despite complaining about "cancel culture" the right probably does it more than the left. There is no end to Republicans calling for firings, boycotts, arrests, and even threats of violence because someone didn't tow the party line. To be clear, I think boycotts are perfectly legitimate ways of voting with your wallet whether I agree with it or not; but it is a type of cancel culture.

[@8randomprettysecret8]

Thank You

[@dianedong1062]

What comes out of the mouths of politicians is what I call "the lawyers truth". They'll cherry pick whatever evidence happens to support their position, and dismiss anything which negates it.

[@daaave2142]

I see it as a seesaw where the balance is getting shifted every so often, right now political correctness is up and proud but it wont last forever as there will be a "renessaince" of sorts where political incorrectness will be all more acceptable and welcome infact.

[@Fucket666]

Can't wait

[@luckyluke4276]

I hope it still happens in my lifetime

[@joesoldchanneldeprecated5948]

I can't wait for that to happen.

[@matthewdarnaud1441]

Hope your right its getting out of hand.

[@GK-oy9bk]

14:00 Absolutely on a point

[@junevandermark952]

The term should not be "political correctness." It should be "polite correctness." The word "political" makes the "government" the focus, and the supposed culprit of all the dissention, whereas the word "polite correctness,” puts the responsibility where it belongs, which is on each individual. I suggest that we should always be asking ourselves ... "Are WE being polite?"

[@joesoldchanneldeprecated5948]

This needs more likes.

[@georgebaez1193]

I strongly agree.

[@pergarside6037]

"When the witches thank the witch hunters, that's when you know you're in a cult" I'm DEAD

[@jasonemery3618]

Favorite part

[@itsYourChance]

I felt that wave of pressure for people to be politically correct last so many years. makes people unauthentic, egg shell walkers.. i guess i never wanted to be a follower. Raised my kids to speak their mind and sometimes it will step on toes.its more important to tell the truth than coddle people in their error ect.. so glad someone talked about this.. we cant all be fake

[@sssungbyu]

I loved this!

[@RandoPassingBy]

I love how I see someone with pfp of King Dedede from King K Rool smash reveal under a TEDx talk vid-

[@alexanderedenwind]

Fantastic

[@monkeyflower954]

Love this TEDX.... the world would be a calmer place to live, if people were kinder. Learn the 80/20 rule.

[@JD-ph1dz]

It's not always the case. People have the right to disagree and say no to a debate if they wish irrespective of outcomes, feeling of discomfort etc. But he has a lot of valid points.

[@thedudeontheinternet]

5:01 "We don't depend on Big brother. We have became Big brother." That is kinda scary..

[@venanziadorromatagni1641]

In German, we have a word (We always have a word ;) ): "Deutungshoheit". It means the exclusive, and unassailable sovereignty to construe an act, a statement or a position as what you interpret it to be, especially someone else's act, statement or position. "My interpretation, my experience of what you've done or what you've said is the only one that counts, for everybody, and even arguing against my interpretation means that you are morally wrong and must be attacked."

[@jonathandjing1065]

People who are emotionally and psychologically strong as this man i think tend to find happiness and live in peace. They how the world works, they know how to react to it and more importantly they stand firm to their beliefs

[@tesfuweldemikael2902]

Great!

[@nick540]

100% agree

[@joshuavanniekerk5055]

Excellent talk! Well done! 👏 I love the calm and rational approach to dealing with these types of issues.

[@zeratulmrc]

Amazing talk! Well done!

[@suzannerider9460]

I agree 100 percent with this guy.

[@junevandermark952]

It is citizens that become offended by how words are used, which doesn’t have anything in common with being "politically" correct. Case in point as follows. From the book … Silent Siren: Memoirs of a Life Saving Mortician … author Matthew Franklin Sias As a new EMT and thereafter, I was taught to use the word “death” and “dead” when I had occasion to break the news to a family. To use euphemisms such as “passed away” would leave some doubt in the loved ones’ minds, I was told, as to whether or not the person really had died. Directness was best. I was taught the extreme opposite when I became involved in the funeral business, maybe because the mortuary industry is much more customer service oriented, and maybe because it was so completely obvious that because we, as funeral directors were involved, someone was dead. I learned this distinction between the languages of my two professions the hard way. When working at the mortuary removal service, I completed a residential call, representing Bonney-Watson funeral home. We were removing the body of an elderly man who had died peacefully in bed in the back hallway of his house. Before we had moved him to our stretcher, I needed some information for the form I was to bring back to Bonney-Watson. I asked the new widow, “What time did he die today?” It seemed an innocuous question, and a necessary one. The next day, I was informed by a supervisor that both the family and Bonney-Watson funeral home had complained that I had used the word “die.” Likewise, on our emergency radios in the ambulance, the subject of death is cleverly disguised, some might say avoided. In Tacoma, where I worked at Rural-Metro, calls to confirm death were dispatched as “signals,” i.e. signal 2 or signal 3. At skagit County Medic One, we are dispatched to a “possible unattended,” whether someone had witnessed the death occurring or not.

[@user-gx4wi4cv2m]

Why was this video published 3 months ago and it has no views? Nice KZbin.

[@Anonymous-ql4ph]

J бонерт it’s a TedX talk, out of UTSC (University of (Toronto) Scarborough) Most TedX talks are unseen by the masses. Let alone ones out of UTSC. Official Ted talks on the other hand are seen by many.

[@LifeasaGift]

Most brilliant and Timely ted talk so far!

[@jonathandjing1065]

It is a form of authoritarianism, period

[@sarin82]

Political correctness is not about having people to get along, it's about having people to go along. It does not tolerate any criticism and does not tolerate any other views but it's own.

[@lrvogt1257]

There is no offensive speech that can't find a venue. No one is obliged to give a platform to those they find objectionable. That is freedom too.

[@multiverse-UFO]

Political Correctness is sheer insanity. Recently I'm writing a paper regarding elderly and sustainability, and after checking the requirements I found out that the journal is telling authors to "avoid the term elderly" as it "may provoke ageism". What's wrong with the academia? I mean, in the real world, many real needs for the older people are not met, like the stoppable Ukraine war already resulted in energy price and food price surge which is so detrimental toward elderlies. The government in the West have given Ukraine trillions of dollars, leaving domestic elderlies (veterans included) in limbo, and all the academia cares is about "using the right word". Is this a good way of giving kindness to seniors? I believe Political Correctness is just a phase throughout human society evolution, and one day it'll be overcome.

[@zynark777]

2:55. No. We don't.

[@mustang607]

Not all people desire power to control others.

[@Zoney06]

No, but it's a common motivator that many applied psychologists state.

[@Dim2134]

@@Zoney06 I honestly think the best thing people can do is develop a proper fear of the corrupting influence of power. Beyond that a healthy respect for the responsibility it should come with.

[@zhulikkulik]

Not all people can be honest about it. One way or another we all want some degree of power.

[@Stevewatson3]

It’s intellectual colonialism and thought crime.

[@ettacallum4325]

I think people are twisting his point. A lot of people are twisting the “truth” with differing opinions. The issue with political correctness in not with people speaking the “truth” and others not agreeing, the issue is people who share an opposing VIEWPOINT and others are overly sensitive about it and they start censoring free speech, canceling people for speaking their OPINION, or feelings. That is the issue with political correctness. The little guy who does not have power or privilege is the one to suffer typically.

[@ewanross954]

28m subscribers and only 17k views... Big tech will do anything it can to silence conservative voices

[@Rasperdan]

I think we should have the abilaty to gracefully play with ideas. We are being encouraged to have a norrow point of view with the finger pointing culture that is being pushed on us. It isolates us to the point of devision wich makes us easy to control.

[@xi3063]

Makes perfect sense nowadays

[@dianedong1062]

Would you describe the average politician as being honest, competent, selfless and impartial? OR, Would you use adjectives such as sneaky, devious, untrustworthy, selfish and incopetent? If you think that the latter list of adjectives more accurately describe most politicians, then why would anyone want to immitate them by being "politically correct". Personally, I'm more concerned about being technically, mathematically, or scientifically correct. I couldn't care less if what I say and do are "politically correct".

[@RacingSnails64]

Yeah, you can be completely accurate and honest about the subject and still be politically correct. It is possible to gently criticise something, not taking pleasure from the subject, and in fact find the discussion uncomfortable as you do so! But people immediately assume that if you're not 100% with them, you're somehow 100% against them, and that couldn't be further from the truth. Where is the room for non-partisanship anymore? Of course, logging on to spam insults and slurs is NOT worth anything and not what I wish to see flourish. I want to see honest, deep discussion of the issues at hand, with no one resorting to name calling on *either* side, thank you. Let's all have the decency to keep ourselves in check, realize there may be more to the story at hand, and discuss the objective truth.

[@nickolasemerson2092]

Good talk but... It's a little disingenuous to say Jordan Peterson doesn't suffer from being called out.

[@stevegeorge2567]

He said: "He doesn't suffer MUCH for it" and also "he has the power to overcome it".

[@Lisapizza789]

Very, very good. Thank you.

[@柠檬-u5k]

Does political correctness contradict freedom of speech?

[@RacingSnails64]

The channel "Counter Arguements" has a video where he lays it out very precisely that yes, it by definition DOES contradict free speech.

[@haniaboufadel309]

I hope all of Sweden is hearing this.

[@monkeyflower954]

It's someday in my house, watching you on KZbin..

[@mcmickeys1446]

Finally a man with a brain.

[@danieloktovian9523]

Yeah Ted doing good job

[@ufodeath]

Too bad the audience clap was cut off at the end. I heard the start of one but then it goes to an ending screen.

[@CraigCastanet]

Weak people seek the coercion of others.

[@henrikarboejensen812]

I sit on a street called Adolphsvej Adolph Street. I wish they would call it Joevej . Joe Street. Greetings from me Carlton "Pudge" Fisk.

[@andrewbyron4872]

Thats why I'm moving from NYC to North Dakota!

[@ТеодорДочов-з6и]

In Politic Corectness, you can Not Talk about the Color Red, Because Someone will think, That you Could be Comminust.

[@ТеодорДочов-з6и]

Political Correct Story Little Red Hood. We Don’t talk about The Color Red Because Soviet. The Big Bad Wolf Had leader on the neck, And Cage on the Mouth, And Little Hood is Using Bio Bags for It’s brown Drops. And the food and Drink was All Bio. And the Wolf was a Vegan. And other Stuff . Syria Involved. Like Big Family of Mogrants. One of the Family a Suicider.

[@jan-owennugent1932]

It’s like a bad drug. It kinda hurts everyone but especially the users.

[@Mangost8en]

The only way to negotiate with these politically correct people is to just apologize and acknowledge whatever silly thing they're calling you out on without question. It's ridiculous.

[@BeefT-Sq]

" If clear-cut principles, unequivocal definitions and inflexible goals are barred from public discussion, then a speaker or writer has to struggle to hide his meaning ( if any ) under coils of meaningless generalities and safely popular bromides." -Ayn Rand-

[@Nick-nt1sb]

Although what he says is correct, it’s still important to implement political correctness into our language. The problem is not political correctness but the interpretative sovereignty.

[@jessyyue9123]

we celebrate diversity yet we are limiting different opinions by allowing ourselves to be easily triggered

[@joesoldchanneldeprecated5948]

Facts

[@jondoe1622]

'The model of a single power shutting you down doesn't exist anymore' try telling that to Assange... 🤣

[@outwest100az]

what was cut out of this view was it not pc enough?

[@RacingSnails64]

My sound cut out at 10:04 because I accidentaly clicked on another window and I thought they had actually censored what this guy was quoting. Oh my gosh lol.

[@user-zb4ss5ze5s]

7:55 oh no...

[@chadlimestall9201]

"Aboot".

[@letsgoBrandon204]

If it's necessary to submit to political correctness in order to remain in some group, then you should aim to ditch that group ASAP

[@VideoGamesAndTheWorld]

Political correctness is America's newest form of intolerance. And it is especially pernicious because, it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet it attempts to restrict and control people's language with strict codes and rigid rules. I'm not sure that's the way to fight discrimination, I'm not sure that silencing people or forcing them to alter their speech is the best method for problems that go much deeper than speech - George Carlin.

[@cklatte]

It is called censoring

[@lrvogt1257]

No. It isn't, Governments censor. Private parties make choices. They can't invite everyone and they can decide if they find someone offensive or not. No one is obliged to give a platform to someone they find offensive.

[@chonkersheep3750]

@@lrvogt1257 commie

[@CraigCastanet]

PC is not on the right. Defending someone is not the definition of PC. PC is the assumption that somethings SHOULD NOT be said, not that they can be said, and countered. This is standard technique to establish rapport with the intolerant.

[@ufodeath]

Is that why whenever I've seen trump talked about negatively where dyed in the wool trump supporters could hear, they have frequently talked to their anti-trump counterparts with extreme belligerence and even threatening overtones in their voice?

[@cuantrail]

I think the PC on the right comes in the form of religion and patriotism. I'm not allowed to say "I don't support the troops". No politician is allowed to say "there is no god".

[@isleastron8251]

Was there a time when he and JBP had a conversation in podcast?

[@briank10101]

When the mainstream media starts covering what's important e.g. excess deaths around the world rather than inciting enmity within the races, the sexes, and promoting woke ideology and being beholden to big pharma, big government, etc. only then I might start watching them again.

[@LiterallyMe2022]

I find the very existence of "Political Correctness" offensive cater to me and stop that abomination from existing

[@Kalshain]

is being polite and asking for permission also a form of political correctness?

[@greatbackhandd7420]

This guy sounds exactly like Kermit the Frog...

[@flyinacircle6398]

its often uncomfortable, the conflict between my definitely left views and my views on PC, which is that it’s in most cases just plain silly.

[@hadessss9723]

WOW WOW HOLD ON HOLD ON 5:31 "Jordan Peterson doesn't get called out, or when he does, he has the power to over come it." If you don't know who (University professor) Jordan Peterson is, I strongly urge you to look him up. He publicly spoke out against PC at his University and got SEVERALLY bashed for it. His name got smeared so badly. He was shitted on way worse than the "powerless person." Not to mention he put his career on the line to speak out in the name of truth.

[@lrvogt1257]

Petersen objects to those who find his comments offensive, which they very often are. He can say what he likes and others can say what they think of it. People can invite him to speak or not. He has had no problems finding a platform. He is a victim of no one.

[@RacingSnails64]

He comes under fire very often but he stands his ground politely, still has a career, and is arguably pretty damn successful.

[@jamiedorsey4167]

Bottom up authoritarianism

[@ifapramoe]

dont mind me im just taking some notes: bc ppl dont speak their mind bc they're scared

[@ifapramoe]

so it hurts ppl on the left more than the right

[@ifapramoe]

some words do hurt, but in borderline cases: is the discomfort is authentic or is it a political artifact

[@ifapramoe]

PC shut people up

[@ATMyles]

TED’s views on political correctness have changed in the years since this talk. Now they promote it.

[@qwerty6383]

Talk was good but when I'm looking at idiots yelling on the comment section I'm not so sure anymore.

[@ibuypower2882]

Bormann beste

[@sebastienriou6603]

I don't like what this guy's saying. Where's the button to shut him down??

[@lennyg1233]

Why cause he's right?

[@sebastienriou6603]

@@lennyg1233 It was a joke.....

[@MrCph2200]

@@sebastienriou6603 my 👍 was not a joke though

[@kekepaka2448]

PC is a nonsense

[@Pduarte79]

Speech fascism, basically.

[@warren4042]

Wrong communism

[@friendofafriendlel2113]

i know you aint on here saying that with a p5 profile

[@MrCph2200]

Hi everybody. I did not understand his point even though I listened to the video several times. Could someone if possible please explain to me in simple terms why he thinks political correctness is so bad? I looked up online what the definition of PC is. It basically it said: PC is about trying to give the least amount of offend to a certain group (among other things) That sounds to me like showing Respect! Then I looked up what’s the opposite of PC, and it said among other things: insensitive, insulting, offensive. I can say that I definitely still want to strive to be politically correct. Could somebody explain to me what’s wrong with that? In such a divided society - especially USA - in where the tension between people who disagree politically - isn’t being politically correct a smart thing to strive for?

[@viktorthevictor6240]

Yes, but it's about priorities. Of course you shouldn't go around insulting people. But if you have ideas you should be able to express them even if they offend people. We should prioritize progress and safety, not people's feelings.

[@MrCph2200]

@@viktorthevictor6240 thanks for the reply

[@anyanyanyanyanyany3551]

just to add, be careful with definitions. Terms like "political correctness" and "critical race theory" may sound innocent, and their definition may be worded in a positive way, but the way these terms are applied in reality is very much the opposite.

[@lrvogt1257]

@@viktorthevictor6240 : Yes, but while the govt may not censor you, no one is obliged to give you a platform. There is no one offensive enough that someone won't give them a venue... but no one has to.

[@viktorthevictor6240]

@@lrvogt1257 Of course. Freedom of speech is a legal issue. But whoever is canceled because of what they say, who they're associated with etc. is a social issue. It's as you say, but it's our social responsibility to act with proportionality and our progress in mind. It's completely within our choice to boycott anyone's product or service (canceling someone), but I encourage anyone to be open minded about it. It all heavily depends on context, but I think our society has a lot of growing to do.

[@jamespappas8885]

Hey Jonathan, just curious of your take on dog shampoo. Thanks.

[@damienheaft4765]

I'm getting mixed messages. I suppose iv been offended but I can't remember enough to care. ill stick up for people but also let people stand up for themselves. I like creative writing so I can answer back to what provokes negative thoughts within myself and externally. great food for thought but.

[@adelenowak5348]

I really enjoyed this talk, except for the naming of Jordan Peterson. That wasn’t called for. It sounded a little petty?

[@RacingSnails64]

I don't see how it was petty. He just cited Peterson as a good example of how you can be accurate yet polite at the same time.

[@runjr032]

Yo this statement about Peterson did not age well . The man got attacked for years

[@mamumaumau7205]

Here is a thought...Who is sick and tired of all of the blaming and shaming and distrust? No one is benefiting here from all of this discord and mistrust except the media and politicians...They are cashing in!!! We can make these changes if we really want to........Children do that, why can't we???

[@ellismeah5127]

We should all start ignoring PC,BS

[@axel_x8954]

Your freedom finishes when mine starts. You are free to be offended because of what i say, been offended those not give you the right to shut up what you don't like to ear.

[@jfilm7466]

Why has this video got so fewer views than many of the other TEDs?

[@friendofafriendlel2113]

kkk meeting in comments

[@nelsonianb1289]

Ted/youtube didnt take this down?

[@chonkersheep3750]

mom/dad didn't beat you down?

[@cathalg312]

Until the concept of personal beliefs and identities, Jews, Christians, Hare Krishnas, Muslims, (do as we say not as we do) is discouraged from being practiced on at least a national (to start) censorship and political correctness will always remain.

[@andreivlad3518]

Comunism with his fear!

[@ufodeath]

I'm a Communist and oppose political correctness.

[@warren4042]

@@ufodeath communism is political correctness.

[@joesoldchanneldeprecated5948]

@@ufodeath Even as an anti-communist I say this is facts.

[@ufodeath]

@@joesoldchanneldeprecated5948 Not to get on your case or anything, but I think if you were aware of the facts about how modern Capitalism is structured, as in what exist today, You would probably see the relevance of Communist thought. Capitalism is built on a foundation of colonial and neo-colonial regimes and various western imposed dictatorships across the third world in order to maintain the existence of capitalism as a system, and it relied on many dozens of major genocides to establish this order. Look up and learn about: The School of the Americas (and the countless genocides created as a result) The US-sponsored genocides of Bangladesh, Indonesia, Yemen, Guatemala The Directly US committed genocides of Cambodia, Vietnam, and the Indigenous of North America The Belgian genocide of the congo's in which 10 million congolese were killed to develop the rubber industry in Europe generally and Belgian Capitalism in particular. This is extremely far from an exhaustive list of the genocides that were used to establish the colonial and now neo-colonial order. They were all done to impose regimes to develop the wealth in Europe and the US at the great expense of other people. People call capitalism "successful", but for some reason neglect to consider the fact that it has not at all been successful for the majority of countries that deeply exploited by the most wealthy capitalist countries - in fact that's the only reason why capitalism continues to function as a system - there are mathematical contradictions at play here. Ask yourself this: Is a system "successful" if its so-called success is based on the extraordinary exploitation of the majority of the world, and wars and genocides to keep those countries "in line" under a misleading pretense of "preserving human rights", for the wealth of a few countries? The aim of Socialism is to establish a society in which the people control their own country through a participatory democracy based on community councils - effectively a much more direct form of democracy in which the people control. The difference between Socialism and Communism is that Socialism relies on a state to use various methods in an attempt to develop a direct democracy and maintain in, even when under incredible pressure from opposing powers, and Communism is a stage of development in which the state is unnecessary as an institution (a stateless, classless and moneyless society in effect).

[@joesoldchanneldeprecated5948]

@@ufodeath I don't agree with communists in terms of ideology except "capitalism bad".