Friday Freakout: Ever Seen This Malfunction (Or This Many Reserve Line Twists) Before?

[@mrtony1985]

Power move for putting his visor in a position to show us the reflection of his reserve so he could record a great video.

[@thatrunawayguy3555]

Just thinking about the audience as always

[@pinkRainb0w98]

camera man never dies

[@vegas8baller532]

Legend has it he still spinning

[@noahgaming1019]

Vegas8baller legend has it that u wont shut the f*** up

[@smolbean3809]

@@noahgaming1019 he only said it once chill bruh

[@smolbean3809]

YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROU-

[@dankotz722]

Yes! I had the exact same malfunction back in 1983 on a 5-cell Strato-Star, shortly after I got off student status. I was told it was most likely a tension knot. Quite a spin! Luckily, my round reserve opened without line twists. Glad you were able to work it out. Stay safe and have fun!

[@Derek_Garnham]

Back when skydiving was dangerous and sex was safe.

[@patrickswayze2596]

Great control of skill, although it only takes one line over during pacing which is what it looks like, he still never panicked, kept his composure and landed safely! Perfect landing 👍🏻

[@beavis847]

Was it a line over or a stuck slider? Looks like a stuck slider to me

[@patrickswayze2596]

beavis847 I don’t know anymore after watching again? You are right in the fact that his slider was stuck, but is it impeding on his lines or causing any reason for his left wing tip to open? I’ve watched it twice since your comment and I can’t quite tell anymore? Thoughts?

[@patrickswayze2596]

beavis847 even with the slider locked it shouldn’t cause that much of the wing to be caught up? Should it? If so I’ve never seen that serious of a mal from just a slider lock? But that’s not to say it isn’t... Cheers

[@ArashiKageTaro]

How do you even know he landed? There’s no video evidence of him landing. For all we know, he may still be spinning under his reserve.

[@Desoxyri]

Not a line over and no landing in the vid. Did you watch the video?

[@titter3648]

Maybe he was still spinning when he deployed the reserve. Causing twist in the reserve lines when that opened.

[@enti7y]

looks like the slider grommet got jammed on the slider stop.. could be wrong.. but it looks like it's pinned in the grommet.

[@Saadbsth]

I think you are right..one edge of the canopy is stuck in the slider

[@andrewxbg]

I am thinking the same thing.

[@brianstayton2595]

That was one hell of a ride buddy! Blue skies

[@gameplaygirl3268]

I have no idea how i got from rollercoaster pov videos to these ones but they are terrifying but i cant stop watching

[@kevincooper814]

None of this ever freaks me out enough to actually make me stop. I see it as. If I die? I'll go out doing the one thing that brings me joy in this pathetic world

[@hrgwea]

And if you survive, you'll feel even more alive that before.

[@exposingbullies260]

"Live free or die!"

[@r.blacky341]

@@shawnupole9316 yes no risk no fun!!😉

[@Rallew123]

Sounds like depression to me.

[@MrReasonabubble]

I love skydiving, but I'd worry if I thought it was the only thing in life that brought me joy. What if something happens that means you can't jump any more? I would also be worried if I felt like I didn't care whether I lived or died skydiving. Have you considered talking to someone about your state of mind?

[@chrisevilgenius]

I had this malfunction just recently, it was caused by old lines which had shrunk causing the line attachment points to pull through the grommets. In my case it cleared easily by gently pulling on the front risers but it still freaked me out and I grounded myself until I had the canopy relined.

[@janellmills5678]

chrisevilgenius you didn't have this mal because of an old line set. His brakes and possibly d's aren't routed through the gromet on his slider.... which means whoever packed it is a dumbfuck and needs to gtfo the packing floor and he needs to have a Rigger install his slider.

[@Johnny-lr5jt]

Why does Friday Freakout almost never show the whole video, including the LANDING?

[@Simple_Jackass]

@cameraflyer - They actually stop their recordings intentionally before landing? I'm just curious why is all....

[@ryanryan8]

@@Simple_Jackass if you jump 10 to 50 times per week, and record video on each jump, that quickly adds up to a lot of video footage to manage. Most canopy footage is useless (or at least it's not often published), so many just stop the camera when under a good chute.

[@renatolopez3079]

That must of been the most relieving moment of his life!

[@kerryworley9013]

As fast as he was spinning it is little wonder he had line twists with his reserve. He was spinning like a top.

[@mikeferguson4816]

Well, though this video is several years old, this wingsuiter appears to have used the "Don't delay, cut away!" method -- and he was under his spinning canopy at 4000', nice! I agree with some other folks who think that RSLs are still statistically better than not...I'm a chickenshit skydiver, and I pretty much only wingsuit (I have no plans to BASE jump) and I have RSL, Skyhook, and Wingsuit specific Cypres AAD, and I jump a big 210 WinX... (~230 lbs exit weight) and on top of that, I pitch my main at 4000' so that I always have a buffer of altitude. I've read most every Parachutist incident report for the last 7 years, because I want to learn from others' mistakes and learn what NOT to do...statistically, you're better off with an RSL, MARD, AAD, etc, than without. Most deaths that I read about were very experienced jumpers that fought a malfunction too long, cut away too low to fully inflate the reserve, or didn't even pull the reserve... So I'd rather be spun up under a "there and square" reserve, than screaming "OH FU..." for the last split second of my life. And btw, I'm trying to coin the term "The weathervane technique" of getting out of line twists when wearing a wingsuit. If you're spun up in line twists -- absent a line over or other malfunction -- close your leg wing so that it doesn't counter act what you're about to do...figure out which way you need to turn, to UN-twist. Then figure out which way the relative wind is coming from. i.e. are you facing backwards as your canopy flies, and the wind is at your back? Once you've figured which direction to UN-twist, and which direction the wind is coming from, AND your legs are together to close your leg wing, think about which wing will start you spinning in your desired direction...like a weathervane, then stick that one wing out and catch the wind to start rotating. Once you've spun 180 degrees, switch arms to keep the UN-twist going. It works SO WELL and effortlessly rather than kicking your legs, or trying to mash/spread risers. Once the relative wind starts rotating you and you switch arms every half turn, it's quick & easy to get out of line twists in a wingsuit. "The weathervane technique!" (and remember to close your legs!) here you go: skydivemanual.altervista.org/blog/rsl-skyhook-or-faith-work-by-dan-brodsky-chenfeld/ and there's this report too... parachutistonline.com/p/Article/non-fatal-incident-summary-1

[@geekdiggy]

i figured this out a long time ago and it's nice to see someone else thought of it too. i could never understand why everyone says "kick out" because it seldom ever seems to do the trick. i'm glad someone smarter than me came up with a word for it. it seems the weathervane trick could work even without a wingsuit, as it appears freeflyers have a tremendous amount of control using just their hands as propellers during freefall, so the same could be applied to line twists.

[@LODIECHODIE]

It's a comment section, not a novel section....

[@bartholomewlyons]

@@LODIECHODIE 😄😄😄shut up u muppet

[@TCherice]

@@LODIECHODIE Cool. So, what if it saved someone’s life? What a stupid comment,

[@puckspirit2573]

That sound on 0:13 "my parachute isn't gonna open.. meh, guess i'm dead.. shit.. whatever"

[@BaronFlyingClub]

That exact thing happened to me. One of the back risers had a knot and the slider hung up on the knot putting me in a spin. I did the same and cutaway

[@malcross2524]

Wondering if I was in this spin should I disconnect RSL, get my arse straight (well as straight as I can) than reserve when stable. See alot of spinning line twist under reserves.

[@Johnny_Dregs]

In regards to the slider stop - was it the plastic "poker chip" style or a metalic washer? I have seen both used but never came across a broken one yet. Glad it all sorted out for you.

[@tomporter7185]

Check every pack when quartering the slider.

[@quinnjim]

Should he have stopped spinning before he pulled the reserve?

[@houk3]

This malfunction is causes by uneven lineset ( some line getting shorter then others. this was thecause ofmy 1st and only reserve ride ) one or more line pass trough the slider's grommets and the gromet snags on the line not, preventing it to go down.

[@Davo198]

What's the best way to avoid this problem?

[@tomporter7185]

@@Davo198 Get proper packing instruction by a certified rigger! Not random info off of the interweb!

[@MIck-M]

I have had so much line twist on a main that it pulled my shoulders back and made it hard to get the handles. I decided to kick my way out of it which was wrong because I was getting too low for reserve by the time I (luckily) got it fully open... also had lost height awareness and thought reserve was still a fair option - WRONG - grounded for the day - lesson learned. If in doubt throw it out. This was all before AODs were a thing except for students.

[@AhmedWajdi]

How does the control part went into the slider ????

[@johnblaesel5493]

Looks like his slider got hung up. Same thing happened to me years ago but it somehow shook loose and I did’t have to cut away.

[@jonslg240]

Imo this shows a major problem with MARDs (like skyhook etc) If you're spinning when you cut you don't get time to stabilize before pulling the reserve Sometimes the twisting main will twist the reserve too

[@johnykalykaba]

It made me nervous. And I'm sitting on my couch

[@dustindesalvo]

This happened to me a couple of months ago. Wasn't that bad tho. Didn't have to cut away. I shuck my risers and it cleared itself.

[@quoth_raven]

The first malfunction is a cravat, which is much more likely to happen on more elongated wings (eg. Paragliders). We solve it by pumping on the brakes on the side that is stuck, pulling on the outermost line of the wing (stabilo line) or even stalling the wing (if you are able). Ideally we use weight shift and a careful break on the opposite side to stop the rotation while we get it out.

[@fauzee]

Busy untwist the line, not much time to feel the joy of parachuting

[@Dionisio181]

Next time get a rigger for slider instalation please. back left line group are not trough the slider groomet.

[@theginganinjaofficial]

+Dal s , didnt catch that before, but noticed something didnt look right. A broken slider stop would not have cause a line group to be outside the slider. Good eye... yet still doesn't explain why its one line from front risers and the one line from the left toggle.

[@Johnny_Dregs]

Dal s Yes, looks like he may have made the mistake of not routing the left control lines through the slider grommet.

[@Dionisio181]

right! besides left trailing edge lines are through left front slider groomet. There are 2 mistakes.

[@Dionisio181]

That´s right!

[@olerenshawify]

In the good old days we had seven cell ram air canopies and good old round reserves. Today I would have latest wizo main with a good old round reserve and you could all laugh at me as much as you wanted.

[@Razorokc]

Pull down on the opposite rear riser to compensate the spin, see if you can get the fold fixed if not cut away. You won't drop as fast and it will give you more time.

[@Ateszika]

I just pretend this was a livestream and he asked for advice while falling out of the sky and you wrote this to help him real-time

[@Razorokc]

@@Ateszika for next time.

[@wills.5762]

Does the reserve automatically open when you cut away the main?

[@jonatancordoba7984]

It does if you have some sort of reserve deployment assistance gear. There are a few types of them but basically (and oversimplifying) consist on having your main and reserve connected in some way so that when you cut away your main, your reserve pulls out. But that's not standard equipment. Traditionally you will have two handles, one for cut your main and one for reserve deployment (which will deploy like your main using a pilot chute).

[@galt820]

slider hang up with a line over?

[@Saadbsth]

From one malfunction right into another..nightmare stuff

[@METALSKYDIVER]

I'm in two minds between a bad reverse pack or an unstable opening position (???) or a little bit of both. Good you had enough altitude to solve this 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@d48985]

Since he was spinning so fast with the main malfunctioned, that is the reason why reserve came out in twists.

[@theginganinjaofficial]

Broken slider stop

[@markusklomes2460]

I feel like he had enough time to reestablish control before opening the 2nd chute, but... I know I would've been trigger happy af to get a solid canopy up after all that!

[@hashbanallahhuwanayamalwak8372]

If someone faint what will happen ?🙄

[@jamesb7807]

Cause and solution is good body position after you cutaway and before you throw your reserve out.

[@Davo198]

Did you not see how fast he was spinning?

[@justingould2020]

What was going on with his main? Something jamming his slider up?

[@tacodeazul1713]

A line is stuck on the toggle. This would have been avoided by walking the lines out

[@Owenzskillz04]

And this is why you shouldn’t use max sensitivity

[@kilurz8629]

Ok

[@fullmetalsvr]

the second one seems "normal" because of the way he was falling after malfunction (spinning), but the first one....you need to talk to who ever folded you parachute...

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[@HePants]

Nice pre-twisted trick

[@swoopmj]

He did something wrong when quartering the slider during packing thats for sure.

[@Bubatz123]

no

[@เมลล-ฌ9ย]

Please ask for an intro song

[@AdityaSingh-mz2zn]

pls tell me

[@maxonthetrack]

this is why i wont take up this hobby (even though i want to)… i get motion sickness from simple roller coaster, and if i experienced a spin like this for more than 3 seconds i would be completely unable to respond as the sickness would be overwhelming. I wish though.

[@davidwhitee]

What’s he wearing? What suit like??

[@Cabelo79]

What took him so long to disconnect after looking at that???

[@therealfallen3606]

I guess he wanted to flare the canopy to see if he could clear the problem...but it did seem to take him a while

[@Cabelo79]

that "folded" corner was quite clear the way it was hehe! but yeah... i've been there

[@therealfallen3606]

I haven't...just graduated AFF last Saturday! Still newbie status :)

[@Cabelo79]

Jon McNally alright! Congratulations budy! I have 67 jumps and can still consider myself a noob hehe! Always learning

[@therealfallen3606]

right haha? my next jump is my first solo! cant get enough of the feeling of flying!

[@renzo4100]

He became a helicopter LMAO

[@rachael3208]

Yes, on a tandem!

[@Orikix]

He should have waited to release the reverse until he stoped spinning

[@swansongBR]

Vou te falar, meu irmão: o Skyhook só atrapalha algumas vezes. Por isso que não uso em meu equipamento.

[@PaleBlueDotCitizen]

You have a straight flying reserve and a wingsuit on. Stick a wing out to untwist those lines!

[@mikeferguson4816]

Agreed...there's been one occasion that sticking my wing out didn't work quickly...maybe my legs/leg-wing was counteracting; however, in a wingsuit, on numerous occasions, figuring out which way you need to un-twist, and then sticking the proper wing out, then waiting for a half turn, and changing wings to continue momentum in the correct direction, then alternating wings every half turn, does the trick. So much better than trying to kick out.

[@Nynexx]

as soon as it started to spin I would have chopped. you waited too long to recognize the problem... with a skyhook you don't need to get stable.

[@Mgp-Rc]

How about using the rears to get the slider down mmm??

[@Cabelo79]

the slider wasn't properly installed. read Dal s comment below. that malfuncion isn't anywhere near "normal" and can't be fixed with risers. actually it coud get way worse if you messed with that.

[@anthonycope8637]

do you unzip before or after you pull in the wingsuit? I guess I haven't seen enough openings from wingsuiters to know for sure but it feels like he opened then unzipped then tryed an adjustment then decided cut it

[@triclopsgamer5934]

Death just popped in to say hi.

[@ronniestaggs5846]

Both chutes were packed wrong

[@TheDirtyNorf]

This is why I don't like the idea of RSL's. No chance to stabilise if your main malfunction causes a spin even if the spin is because you took too long.

[@TEEMsky]

+DirtyDwarf I encourage you to read this great article by Dan BC about the importance of RSL's. After reading this article and considering the statistics, I've re-installed my RSL because it just makes sense. Check it out here: www.skydivemag.com/article/rsl-skyhook-or-faith

[@aikiseppuku]

+DirtyDwarf You are an idiot. Reserve flies very well with line twists, unless you use a crossfire as reserve. Many experienced people who die, die from low cutaways and not getting out their reserve in time because they spend hundreds of meters stabilizing.

[@Dionisio181]

Use it! if you have a malfunction like this then just disconect it and that´s all. But remember, you have to add this issue to your emergency procedures and practice, practice, pactice. But if you don´t use it in every jump there will come one day where you will need it and it´s no gonna be there. THAT´S COMON SENSE.

[@Mgp-Rc]

RSL and first ever reserve ride ended up in the reserve with many line twists. Depends on the type of jumping you do IMO. Hate the bloody things. Know your ep's ffs. In my day there were no aad's either !

[@lethalmindninja]

I bet you don't wear your seat belt either then

[@coolman2k2]

This is literally my nightmare

[@LeoSalom]

I wonder what would have happened if he had a third chute...

[@CK_231]

Scary 😱😱

[@yeastyyeasty2168]

Why pull the chute so high up?

[@kayleejenkins6678]

he doesn't have the right type of gear for jumping off that high

[@IAnonymous3]

Suppose disconnect the RSL in a spin like that? Cut away. Stabilize. Deploy reserve.

[@bobhorne8410]

He was still spinning after cut away. With obviously plenty of altitude he should have gotten stable then dumped.

[@gobodeath1214]

wow fear af

[@EtzEchad]

That, combined with the low pulls seen on this channel = death.

[@tomporter7185]

Pull low, hook late, lol

[@Nynexx]

RSL is crap in this case..

[@ciscoj33]

FUCK! That dude just had a bad day all the way around!!!

[@maxmorris3234]

If he had left a bit of time before deploying his reserve it would have gone a bit smoother

[@tetrayeet8146]

Now thats free falling

[@coreymonaghan3440]

Going to the moon on a budget lol

[@flybeep1661]

At first I was like dude taking his sweet time to grab the toggles....then I saw dude has a wingsuit, that explains shit. Probably got his heart pumping good, probably also not that great that have this occur while wearing what is essentially kinda like

[@blancagomez3126]

Oye amigo no te da miedo las alturas

[@LODIECHODIE]

Unstow & stall the canopy.... Next time, flat pack in full flight....

[@مهندوبكيفي-ي7ف]

love Ljubljana

[@oysterfleet5669]

That looks like a Hornet. I heard of a broken "Pocket Chip" (slider stop) malfunction on a Hornet. I started checking my 190 Hornet every time I packed it, and sure enough I found one of the four to be broken. Shitty plastic chip, should be nylon. I think it would be a good safety check on every chute while you're packing. I just takes a few seconds

[@averycarr5787]

Think I might disconnect my RSL if this ever happens to me . Sketch !

[@martinhuehnerbein2497]

shit like this is the reason why i disconneted my rsl and jump always without it. so i don't have to think about rsl and have always the same emergency procedure. if i die because i have no rsl it's my fold... better than dying because of bad luck if my rsl kill me

[@davidwang5770]

Cut it away immediately after you notice something is not right!

[@royf.2471]

reserve malfunction??? time for a new hobby!!!!

[@ToroidalZero4]

Bad pack on main and reserve? Next time get a rigger to do it for you

[@anthonycope8637]

Colton Phipps he was spinning as the reserve came out that's what caused the line twist

[@DrHouse1238]

i never jumped in my life but i am planning on doing so soon ,i was wondering did he make a mistake not waiting long enough to stabilize the spinning ,seems to me like he pulled the reserve way too soon

[@anthonycope8637]

DrGHouse some would argue this as a reason to not have the auto reserve system installed because you don't have time to re stabilize before it opens in this case he is spinning when the reserve deploys causing the line twist others would argue that not having it is a greater risk because it requires more steps and time to properly manually deploy the reserve plus the stupid factor of trying to stabilize and pulling to low to late or not at all....its a personal preference not many cutaways on YT showing a manual deployment of the reserve if you read the comments many divers complain that people have forgotten the fundementals and don't actually pull their reserve cord themselves just in case the cutaway system fails costing them valuable altitude

[@DrHouse1238]

OK yea i got it ,there's no clear answer ,it is just a preference.Although i started reading instructions ,but it is in another language so no point of linking it here,it says "Discard the first incorrectly open dome and without delay open reserve parachute" so it seems like you shouldn't even try to stabilize. By the way excuse my lack of knowledge of appropriate terms, i am trying to translate it the best i can.

[@anthonycope8637]

DrGHouse I don't know all of them myself I just watch a lot of diffrent types of malfunction videos and read a lot of comments and have discussions like this...I speak english but tend to use crap grammar and spelling because I'm a lazy typer and this isn't going to be graded. Look into skyhooks its part of auto deployment cutaway systems and a discussion many divers have of is it useful or not I believe it is a hook that attaches to the pilot chute of the reserve or something like that...anyway yes the proper procedure is ditch the bad chute quick and deploy the reserve but in high altitude situations people make the mistake of restablizing and then this is compounded over time as a habit so when you have no altitude you forget to just cut and deploy

[@shrebus]

Wow!

[@butterss.2828]

leave it to888

[@matiasariel6581]

To quick for open 2nd parachute, at Least must fix position to not rotating while open parachute 😗

[@theo3888]

That's not how you run a control check

[@rizzadavid5619]

Never ..ever I saw all these failures on KZbin with skydiving in the army... say's allot about all those wannabes out there

[@-Galavanta-]

RSL's....never, hate those things.

[@Owenzskillz04]

This is what happens if you use max sensitivity

[@kilurz8629]

Ok

[@sereganikonchuk385]

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[@do-what-you-love320]

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[@edycastro6467]

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[@paluch8153]

He should release RSL before cutaway.

[@Clearwater3465]

I mean he was high enough in the air so he could have time to fix it at least

[@daveshankland2801]

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[@mloger]

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[@arniemirante443]

lol!!! hes a rookie. after you cut away you always get stable, relax, arch then pull so you DONT get line twists

[@courtneywigginton9694]

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[@iquaky1189]

He is dum for pulling the parachute this early

[@hogedoge69]

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