Teen Went On “Truth Telling” TV Show To Win Money, Told 18 Personal Secrets, Then Was Murdered

[@miazback]

As a peruvian who watched this unfold in real time there's a few things you missed. 1. Brian was Ruth ex, he started to harras her for the money the moment the show ended, even when she still hadn't received the money. 2. He paid a kid to called him when Ruth get off the bus that take her home, he kidnapped her with the help from his uncle and beat her in his mototaxi, police found blood there. 3. He drugged her so she would give him her bank account info, she didn't, so they SA her and torture her . 3. They killed her and pretend to be a crime of passion bc at the time there wasn't a law for feminicio, and crime of passion got less time. 4. He indeed was no longer his bf, but been called a cachudo on newspapers and tv (guy who was cheated on) played a part on his ego. 5. Ruth's sister said that the show knew a lot of the answers were false, but still told Ruth to tell them for rating.

[@miazback]

Oh and Beto Ortiz is trash. You should investigate his own case involving children from an orphanage.

[@kikiepnini4051]

Damn that mess up. I hope her parents can sue the show.

[@Ruqayalove_01]

@@kikiepnini4051why the show 😂 people make their own decisions don’t blame it on the stupid show

[@itsamiyah9567]

Because the show told them to say false answers, even when they new it wasn't true. Of course they could have rejected but we don't know the conqnes of that and if they needed my the money.Im not saying they show is 100% at fault but it definitely isn't blame proof ​@@Ruqayalove_01

[@pauwula]

​@@Ruqayalove_01 because it's a show that's broadcasted live in national TV. They're very clearly showing her identity and how much money she's making from the show, there were no protections in place to prevent this kind of thing, especially femicides (which happen VERY often in Peru, unfortunately). I didn't know about #5 so that's even worse because they're putting her in even more danger. This was the first ever episode of the show (it's since been canceled but after what happened to Ruth they only asked high-profile people (idk how to explain it but basically not regular citizens) to come as guests) and while yes, some of the issues were huge oversights, the show basically telling her to lie/exaggerate is a blatant disregard to her safety

[@kathryn8462]

the reporters shoving cameras at grieving parents' face and calling her a prostitute is freaking disgusting and pathetic

[@autumnNight0606]

Reporters usually are

[@dailealexander2055]

Agreed 100%, I don't know how any of those people can even live with themselves. "Disgusting & pathetic" is RIGHT.

[@sleeparalysisdemon1164]

​​@@escobar798 Hm.... maybe NOT shove a camera in their face and call their missing child a pristitute? What a dumb question...

[@aakiofr]

⁠@@escobar798are you stupid? Slow? Shallow? Demented? It’s not really that hard to realize that people just want some human decency yk 💀

[@emilia5146]

​@@escobar798 is it too much to expect professionalism?

[@Flufferbutter84]

“You know what would be better? Get an attorney and don’t take a polygraph.” Wise words Stephanie. Wise words

[@tarasherman2714]

best advice.

[@ysucae]

remember polygraphs are bullshit in most cases and this is why they're not admissible in court

[@wendychavez5348]

#truth

[@mandamillions888]

gagged me real bad

[@dailealexander2055]

Stephanie out here spitting truth

[@jeanine1945]

Peruvian here, unfortunately there is a lot of poverty here, a lot of people live by their day by day, if they don't sell anything then that day they don't eat. I understand why Ruth did it, poor girl

[@sierrra1195]

Not trying to be rude I swear. Growing up my family was really down bad (we stole, we asked for help, my mom sold self care baskets, etc.) But not once did my mom, any of my siblings, or myself ever sell our bodies to feed us, clothe us or even pay bills. I’m not trying to attack this comment I’m just saying I agree more with her parents as far as….she couldn’t find anything else to produce an income? All in all RIP to Ruth you did not deserve to die for how you lived your life 😢 & my condolences to her family for having to suffer pain twice over 😭

[@ary3901]

​@@sierrra1195So you wrote this comment to... What? Prove that you're better than her? Seriously, who do you think you are? "oh but she could've done something else" to... Avoid the shame? Avoid getting murdered? Is that what you're saying? We all sell our work, our bodies, in some way or the other. I'm not a fan or even defender of sex work, but those who choose to do it (for whatever reason) have the right to live in peace without being harassed or judged. Get off your high horse.

[@sierrra1195]

@@ary3901You think you said something special? 😂 You smug mofo I started with not trying to be rude; followed by MY OPINION gtfoh with your self righteous bs! It’s KZbin everyone is allowed to voice their many opinions 🙄✌🏽

[@saracks]

@@sierrra1195 idk were you are from but in peru the situation is completly different from yours and just from the whole "sold self care baskets" tells me you had it better than ppl here. people who are in poverty here literally work on the morning to eat lunch and work on the afternoon to eat dinner, including that you dont receive the same opportunities for jobs or clients that can give you enough money to cover ALL your expenses. also is fucking disgusting that you judge her for doing that exactly how the media and her ex did, specially as a woman and as someone who know what it "feels" to be her situation

[@Cristal.2000]

Ruth was a native woman. Things are much more difficult for them.

[@laceyfontenot186]

11,000 missing females a year! The news would have to report about 30 missing girls a day. That's so freaking scary and horrible

[@liberatumplox625]

It's terrible but, strangely - it seems like quite a low figure. Using the UK for comparison, about 180,000 people go missing every year.

[@ElinWinblad]

800,000 in USA 😢

[@brittnay279]

@@ElinWinbladwomen?!

[@suhanisharda9706]

@@liberatumplox625 yah but you have to compare it percentage wise using how many women are in that countries population. In that aspect, it is really high for Peru and saddening for every country it happens in.

[@eybisborjasvargas6889]

​@@ElinWinbladAccording to the National Missing and Unidentified Persons (NamUS) database, over 600,000 people go missing in the US each year. However, some people are reported multiple times, so that number doesn't represent the exact number of people who disappear. NamUS also says that tens of thousands of people remain missing for more than a year, and that about 4,400 unidentified bodies are found each year.

[@ss.waaaaw]

This show (in other countries) actually has ruined so many lives. The producers genuinely should never be allowed near a camera again. Seriously, look into it, cause I'm 90% sure this is not the only death linked to the show

[@nickp4207]

I mean, there’s always going to be self centered people filling the neiche, and there will always be people with no shame and I’m sure it’s saved some people from being in a relationship with a horrible person

[@CCC9437]

Stop it. If this show was as popular as everyone says it was then these people, who voluntarily came on the show, knew what they were getting themselves into.

[@adanice49]

@CCC9437 people sign up to be humiliated, not murdered. Don’t justify murder

[@CCC9437]

@@adanice49 the murder, had nothing to do with the show and everything to do with the humiliation which they signed up for. Plenty of people on that show got humiliated. The show has nothing to do with a murder. Can’t blame the show for that.

[@JL-hk8vl]

Greed does that

[@ereccatateishi]

Ruth's mom learning the news from the news reporter completely GUTTED me. My heart tore into a million pieces for her. I cant imagine the absolute shock and pain, AND to have such a vulnerable moment filmed like its entertainment... The way the media handled it, its so disgusting....

[@TheLadybughug]

My mom and I found my sister, after she had unalived herself. My sister had locked the front door, but bent a piece of blinds out of the way. We could only see in the house, and see her. I will NEVER forget the next 4 weeks, from my mom dying a little that day. Her restless pacing at night. Her wailing my name with such urgency (she'd gone up the stairs first) I raced up the steps that just a few days ago, had weirded me out. The worst one was the day she wailed in an unrecognized voice, tell me, beating her chest. It hurts. It hurts HERE. Her beating on the cop that was trying to console her. 😢 I stayed at her place for 2cweeks after, then my aunt came over. It was... Hell.

[@ruthymorales7208]

@@TheLadybughugI’m so sorry honey, I will be praying for your family. Me and my family have also just gone thru 2 horrible deaths , it’s been 3 months, but it feels like it happened yesterday. Stay strong honey!

[@TheLadybughug]

@@ruthymorales7208 I am sorry for your loss ♥️♥️♥️ I will gladly accept the prayers, and offer mine in return. Be well, be safe and be blessed!

[@jessicablewitt]

​@@TheLadybughug - im so sorry you & your mom had to experience such tragedy. May your sister rest in peace xo

[@TheLadybughug]

@@jessicablewitt thank you. ♥️. I know she's no longer in pain. My mom is now with her, and one day, I believe, we will all meet up again. Be abundantly blessed ♥️ (,thank you for your kindness,but was much needed today 😇)

[@saracks]

the most fucked up thing is that they didnt cancel the show but rather changed it to famous people, who would obviously have more security in case something similar happened... may ruth rest in peace

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

you act like it's just the show that is the problem. the truth is, the entire culture of that country is horrendous

[@saracks]

@@Dave_of_Mordor 1. im literally peruvian and you calling MY cutlure horrendous is offensive 2. i never implied that the show was the problem but mentioned a fact that some people might not know 3. didnt know my culture is equal to men bc men like the one who commit the crime exist EVERYWHERE. use your brain next time

[@avelynn5976]

​@@Dave_of_Mordor I'm sure it had no influence on the show whatsoever

[@_G4.R4_]

@@Dave_of_Mordor I don’t think there’s any excuse to sensationalize peoples secrets like that especially when they’re fully aware what conservative country they’re in, even if they didn’t cause the murder that shouldn’t be OK

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@_G4.R4_ the fact that you and avelynn are trying to dismiss the responsibility of the people and blame it all on a show is insanely disgusting

[@itsval18]

I’m peruvian and i was in high school when all of this went down, the whole nation was talking about it truly, i feel so bad for Ruth to this day. It’d be amazing if you also cover the Ciro Castillo/Rosario Ponce case, it’s such a mistery here in Peru and people are still shaken to this day.

[@reilaless]

One of my dreams is having Stephanie narrating Ciro’s case. It’s such a mystery that hunts people to this day!

[@Ramses060784]

And the feffer brothers

[@itsval18]

@@reilaless I just know Steph would totally give justice to such an intricate and compelling story! I wish more people knew the case since it literally marked a before and after in the peruvian society imo.

[@itsval18]

@@Ramses060784 Yes! and also the Stephanie Flores/Joran van der Sloot tragic case.

[@Ramses060784]

@@itsval18 climaco basombrio

[@NickyDimps42]

"That's a really good analogy." "Thank you." LMAOOO. That millisecond is so funny to me

[@clairelicciardo6198]

Loved it too

[@Blueblooop]

Same she’s like 💋👩🏽‍🍳

[@cass9102]

glad im not the only one who chuckled at that 😭

[@MacaylaReilly-jq4xw]

That was so funny 😂😂😂

[@happy-nari]

she tried very hard to remain professional at that one😭

[@filonovasonya5220]

Stephanie, the ex Minister of Economy of Kazakhstan killed his wife, beat her( for 8 hours) and is trying to avoid punishment. It would be great if you do episode about this case cuz world need to know the truth

[@isabelfortuneteller]

Seconded... Let's hope this high profile case finally brings some progress at least 💔

[@leahrame5094]

Yes, this one 👆

[@sunray4203]

Pleeeeese this one

[@amelialee4114]

She posted on instagram the other day that they were looking for researchers on the case so its probably coming soon

[@Nermeen.]

WHY !! Why did he do that to her ?!

[@DVYKYO]

I am Peruvian and I live and know the place where she was buried. 1-Brayan's mother was also involved, why do I mention that? I simply need to mention that she and he lived literally across the street, this can be verified with the program "La Noche es Mia" (also a program belonging to the truth value channel). She tricked him into telling her to go up to her house that it was him. Your mother's birthday and if you could accompany him at the same time to celebrate the winnings. His mother, as we know, was on the first floor when Ruth arrived and greeted her. 2-Brayan, according to the motorcycle taxi drivers in the area, he already knew that Ruth worked in that field and that he was a pimp, he encouraged Ruth to enter that environment. 3-The sentences of the uncle and Brayan were lowered a few years ago. And I understand very well why Ruth did it and I don't blame her. I hope her family is well now.

[@BPEntertainment1]

No matter what she said, she didn't deserve to be murdered. My heart breaks for her family.

[@kellyxx3288]

Literally if she lived in Australia none of her confessions would have been a bid deal. Nor should they be. Some countries are messed up they still exist in the middle ages.

[@kellyxx3288]

​@@ravichandrakumarchouturi1900like what psycho? Wtf

[@ravichandrakumarchouturi1900]

@@kellyxx3288 haha

[@ravichandrakumarchouturi1900]

@@kellyxx3288 haha

[@AnotherSpectatorBro]

@@ravichandrakumarchouturi1900you sound dumb asl

[@tracychallice1099]

seeing the difference in how the mom looks from when she was on the show to after her daughter went missing is breaking my heart

[@Parasocial9]

@@LoveOfLamwhat.

[@Lysssa-ex7oc]

@@LoveOfLamDisgraceful behavior and embarrassing lack of humanity on your part for this.

[@tracychallice1099]

@@LoveOfLam disgraceful behaviour on the part of assholish KZbin commenter

[@EGdoesart]

​@@LoveOfLam she got forced by the show to lie what you yapping about

[@EGdoesart]

​@@LoveOfLammy kids dont love me core💀🔥

[@StarsForward]

Hearing you compare _Moment of Truth_ to an episode of _Black Mirror_ is the single most accurate description I've ever heard regarding that deplorable game show.

[@micaelamorrigan2544]

Never heard of it

[@lesliegutierrez2611]

What black mirror episode tho

[@whydidyoutubechangemyuser]

@@lesliegutierrez2611OP means moment of truth would fit well as a black mirror episode. not referring to a specific episode, but the show as a whole

[@kizuna95]

@@lesliegutierrez2611 Season 1 ep2?

[@lesliegutierrez2611]

@@kizuna95 this was the type of comment I wanted thanks! Also, saw someone say that the real problem is society and us watching these things. That reminded me of S1e1 where it’s the exact premise, but worse because the whole nation is literally watching the most horrible shit go down. Things to think about! (Viewer discretion is HIGHLY advised, sexual cruelty against animals *pig r-word*⚠️)

[@CatMan_3]

This is so well put together! The way you switch between the show and the kidnapping is incredible

[@Kamillindi]

right ? I've seen some other comments saying they're being confused but i think it's an amazing way to tell the story

[@AlexKaneROTN]

​@@Kamillindiyou're just being a simp

[@Kamillindi]

@@AlexKaneROTN is that supposed to be an insult 😂

[@andrewelam1612]

​@RevengeOfTheNetherrealm 😂😂😂

[@saraabbas5603]

Its very Slumdog Millionaire style

[@coreyholmes1980]

Those transitions from the show to the missing person case made me feel like I accidentally skipped forward lol

[@t.deshawn6519]

Me too! The 1st time, I was so confused and had to rewind to see what happened. Once I realized, it felt like I was watching an episode of "how to get away with murder"

[@JustShayShay]

Me too I kept rewinding to make sure.

[@nicoleweiler1105]

It's probably because the full version of her videos is not on KZbin. She edits them down for KZbin. Full version is available on Spotify Video I believe.

[@munequitasyntetica]

I felt the same way

[@aliapolad882]

Same

[@ashlol6249]

The way she ended this video was so bitter-sweet with the mother continuing her singing career, I hope the family recovers from this tragedy

[@bobasentimental2559]

as a peruvian, I can tell you that the name and face of Ruth was never forgoten here, we know that she never recover from that, and even if she's kinda living from her singing career, she's still very very poor, if you ask every man or old women in the streets abt Ruth, they're gonna tell you that " she was a hoe " " she was searching her own dead" or that " she deserve it" and its very dificult for her family to let this pass, nobody remembers how poor or hard their situation is, ppl just remember Ruth as a prostitute that was killed :(

[@Zydraxis]

Someone who lost his mother from cancer and than 2yrs after her sister his aunt told me. Time won't cure the pain you never recover. Time teaches you live with it.

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@bobasentimental2559 what a ruthless uncivilized place to call a country

[@antonellafernandezcastella9184]

As someone from Peru who’s seen how this show has destroyed many lives and who knows that there are so many women that disappear and later found death by the hands of their supposedly loving partners really thank you for covering this case. If you are interested in researching other Peruvian cases you can look into the death of Alicia Delgado- and Andean music singer, and Ciro Castillo- a medicine student that got lost in the mountains

[@Ramses060784]

Got killed *

[@MyMomSaidEatSaladSoIAteHer]

​@@Ramses060784Shut up it only matters if people can understand what they"re typing you dont have too correct everything people say instead correct your life

[@Lugen]

@@Ramses060784we all knew what he meant butthole (8 months later)

[@carissahuffman3199]

Can I just say I love the way you've grown and used your influence and platform to help bring light on cases and how you also use it to genuinely help people dealing with injustices like the spinal cord case...but seeing and hearing you say you were helping with fees and seen in other videos of you, this is using your platform and voice for the people in a beautiful way.

[@ameline8739]

Peruvian American here! Will update as I continue watching the video: - I’m 99% sure that Peruvians call people “bestia” (beast) ONLY as an insult. My parents have always used it to insult or describe bad drivers, abusers and murderers on TV, etc. EDIT: -Beto Ortiz rose to prominence after my parents left Peru, so I’m not familiar with him. But looking through Spanish Wikipedia, it seems that people call him a bestia because he’s not “politically correct,” because of his reaction to Ruth’s murder, and because of his own scandal of alleged pedophilia (alleged because it seems to be an ongoing investigation).

[@greciacordova25]

Yup!! Exactly that

[@jilliansamael881]

We use "beštija" in the same sense in my part of Croatia, a small country on the other side of the world, very interesting.

[@jaeminthecreator2877]

yes

[@Gerson.Reyes.C]

Yes. Even if it's used in loving relationships, it has a bad connotation and it's used as an insult

[@darjagreynshpol6181]

We also say Bestie in Germany

[@lepetitdame]

I'm Peruvian, I remember watching this as a child, it was everywhere on the news, never thought Stephanie would tell this story, but I'd gladly watch 🐥

[@Dylan-wz3dz]

ur hawt

[@eeveechan]

Could you please share what was he called when she said people called him the green hat thingie? I speak Spanish and I understood the concept but I have no clue what he was called

[@shelceegraves1241]

​​@@eeveechanCuckold. The term she used was green hat slave, but the word that is used in the US that was censored was cuckold.

[@Adrii-wb1ct]

​@@eeveechan usually people use the words "cachudo" or "cuernudo" referring as people who are cheated on have horns

[@eeveechan]

@@gabbieziqitsan2135 yeah, they explained it but I never got to hear the actual word in Spanish.

[@viclorenzo5016]

Personal Timestamp 0:00 Introduction 4:45 Disclaimer 5:52 Case start 9:29 El Valor De La Verdad: The Value of Truth 32:38 Ad break 34:47 Continuation Part I 1:18:59 Ad break 1:20:30 Continuation Part II 1:38:23 Video end

[@viclorenzo5016]

If anyone is interested, please check out (The Darkest Moments in TV History 3) & (The Darkest Moment in TV History | Eloá Pimentel) by Nick Crowley.

[@teresalowe5994]

Omg!! Thank u for this!! 😊

[@rinkydinkpillepalle]

I have had a number of conversations with people about how exploitative reality TV is, but this is truly damning. You can't tell me the producers had no idea what the consequences were going to be. The worst part is that nowadays, not only does this kind of programming still get produced, but low-grade journalism does the same thing.

[@monicaaa576]

I'm peruvian. The price she got was $4109, but the minimum wage legally in 2012 was $185. But the boyfriend wasn't a taxi driver, was a "mototaxista" those rides are usually shorter and some times the ride can be less than a dolar. So that price will be like 2 to 5 years of work and the maximum price can be till 12 years of work.

[@cucumber356]

She made all that 12 yrs worth of money only to live not even 1 percent of that time 💔

[@NN-sp9tu]

@@cucumber356 Ruth was making 50 dollars per dance

[@jaeminthecreator2877]

@@cucumber356 and the worst part is that she already had planned what to do to improve her life with the money, so she doesn't have to work in clubs anymore

[@cucumber356]

@@NN-sp9tu what are you trying to say....

[@abyblue7287]

​@@NN-sp9tu see I think that was probably a mistake. The currency, I mean. But I'm not sure... And even if, what exactly are you trying to say?

[@preciouslyunhinged]

The escalation of this case is dangerously scary, RIP to Ruth. The journalists took part in making things more worse than it was....this is sickening, RIP TO RUTH

[@cb-akp]

i'm so tired of people demeaning women for doing sw but not demeaning the buyers for being the entire reason the industry exists. it's back asswards. edit since ppl keep replying the exact same thing over and over. the majority of ppl doing sw globally are doing it to survive and many are trafficked or otherwise forced. the ppl buying are doing it for their sexual gratification and are never forced. both groups are not equally to blame.

[@ronniashton5131]

Exactly 👏🏾

[@TC-mb2dl]

right? or ensuring that there are other financial opportunities available to women besides SW

[@cb-akp]

@@healthiswealth6831 literally how.

[@binkyslapass1]

back asswards....that costs extra ;-)

[@imapoetnuknoitthorough7568]

🙈

[@AugustDaragjati-tb9nl]

The studio audience tricked her. They got to the big questions at 5k and made her quit. How obvious it was to me.

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

we need to track them down

[@HomoeopathyWorld]

What was the question 3 of that level ?

[@frankiesslipal3730]

​@@HomoeopathyWorldif she had sex in exchange for money, she responded yes. Stephanie talks about it later, but the editors didn't edit the video well, the full show is better to comprehend.

[@huykim4663]

⁠@@frankiesslipal3730Steph did that intentionally

[@bexyrexy]

At the very least… The court system didn’t believe his BS, ordered compensation, acknowledged that the crime was premeditated and gave him the maximum sentence possible. Other than her family, it was the one system that didn’t fail Ruth!

[@lea-sega]

Honestly that was refreshing to hear after seeing so many cases in this channel where that doesn't happen

[@starcherry6814]

Good point. She didn't die in vain

[@sarahwieland3243]

Yes, thankfully the justice system did seem to believe in justice and truth when I came to what happened to her.

[@diemes5463]

What was the family supposed to do?

[@JB-bm1to]

@@diemes5463I think they’re saying her family didn’t fail Ruth, “so other than her family” is like only in addition to her family.

[@NicholasDarling]

Hypocrites are usually the loudest people, i wonder how many people were using these legal "clubs" secretly and bashed her publicly.

[@homemadeluty3590]

I really want a Wendy's hamburger rn

[@teamanisongirlblogg]

@@homemadeluty3590same

[@TheUnseenKrab]

That's why i won't say anything cause yeah.

[@izzatihassan1475]

The face Brian makes on the final question 50:31, is not the face of disappointment and embarrassment, but the face of anger and vengeance. He knows his life is gonna change the moment he left the stage and he is blaming it on Ruth.

[@Yazarastsu]

Who else can he blame it on, he shouldn’t have killed her but she was wrong

[@Oujouj426]

​@@Yazarastsu "Disproportionate punishment" is too hard of a concept for some to understand.

[@CorinaPlascencia-fg9ls]

@@YazarastsuExactly what I said she was cynical with her hurtful answers too and all for money not caring who she hurt. I was a rebellious teen but never to intentionally hurt my parents. She literally brought them on a show in front of the world NOW and to say she is ashamed??? She didn’t care about anyone but herself. Sad that she died for this. And all this for money? Both of them for money.

[@brianna058]

@@CorinaPlascencia-fg9lsyou’re a terrible person.

[@massivel]

@@Yazarastsu idk its reported that she broke up with him a while before she went on the show so she may not have even cheated on him at all. the cheating is supposedly thw worst thing she did yet we have no proof that it really happened.

[@jrgills]

I lost all respect for Beto Ortiz when one time he FLEW to Los Angeles to interview a minor who had been SA’d in Lima at a High School and forced her to give full (and I mean full) details. He also exposed her name…

[@faiireez1770]

what episode was it?

[@jenellenelson4447]

​@@faiireez1770google it....... 🤦‍♀️

[@maryamabubakar7031]

Hey Stephanie, if you see this can you cover the case of the chibok girls, pls 276 young girls were abducted at school 10 YEARS AGO, and 82 are still not released, this case is not being recognized enough, it is a case that had left a lot of people distressed because even the government is not helping, thus pls I hope you can at least raise awareness, this girls were tortured and raped everyday under the eyes of the government, and nothing is being done🙏

[@FLORAL-TEA17]

terrible! i hope stephanie sees this. i want to know more abt this case 😢

[@amritaparida3992]

Which year case is this?

[@mleecthulhu]

Woah..

[@mleecthulhu]

Me too! ​@@FLORAL-TEA17

[@user-your-guilty-pleasure]

you are right this deserves so much more awareness

[@anacarslina]

been noticing a pattern of poor journalism being showcased and most times acting as the cause of tragedy in the last episodes and honestly, as a journalism major, i'll swear to never throw out my morals for sensationalism. it's supposed to be a profession that helps people, not dooms them. these cases are heartbreaking.

[@aesinam]

It's sad because sensatinalism sells even more today

[@TheTwil1]

The real guilty party is …us. If we weren’t so hung up on sensation and judgement, there wouldn’t be a market for it.

[@DetroitHimawari]

Agreed

[@lesliegutierrez2611]

First episode of black mirror! It’s insane

[@cgigammez5749]

kind of a weird take, the real guilty party are the criminals

[@Mewsette1]

Speak for yourself. Some of us are detectives.

[@MONKEYDZETS]

Don't lump me in with u

[@dinenpine]

This story is so much different than your usual topics, so I wasnt expecting much. Just some relaxing background noise for my brain to drone out to and relax. This had me glued to my seat in anticipation the entire time though. Genuine props, your skill and ability as a narrator and story teller came through loud and clear with this episode. You are no one trick pony riding the true crime wave. The rawness of the family and boyfriend's and even the audience's emotional turmoil and state I felt like I was getting pieces of that emotional roller coaster. You and the team are killing it 💯

[@celine2670]

excuse me if i have this wrong but how are stories of real life people getting murdered, harassed, brutalized, tortured, assaulted in multiple ways, etc grounds for being "relaxing background noise"? again, i mean no hate in any way. unless you mean her other channel where she turns books into podcasts, i disagree. idk the case but please do not dehumanize these tragic stories and deem them simple entertainment (and i'm sorry if that wasn't what you were doing and i misunderstood your comment, and i really do not mean this in any negative way, + i agree about her story-telling skills). have a good day

[@dinenpine]

@@celine2670 hi. So my statement wasn't intended to say "I particularly like hearing about horrific things happening to people." Of course I do not and these are tragic things that happened to human beings with loved ones and are not just random statistics in a crime report. A better way to probably explain it is I also like to read / listen to books on things like economics and statistics and historical events in finance. The problem with these are they are terrible for "enjoyable background noise" because there are often a lot of particularly detailed things that need to be picked up on and thoroughly heard and understood that relate what's coming up next up in the book. Trying to listen to one of those audiobooks while doing something else that slightly takes away your attention at times generally ends up with me rewinding a section and re listening to it again multiple times trying to pick up the concept or topic while being in the background of whatever else I'm doing (like say work). Plus those kinds of things are generally a lot more "dry" and less engaging so it requires more focus to kinda get something out of listening to it in the background. I more or less gave up on listening to those for "background noise" cause they can't really sit in the "background". It just makes for a shitty listening experience and me doing shittier at whatever task I'm doing while listening. On the other hand, channels like Rotten Mango, Scary Interesting, Mr. Ballen, etc. or other things I'd listen to like Joe Rogan or Theo Von podcasts are far better for "enjoyable background noise." They're more engaging cause they're telling stories versus hearing something like "the value of a security can be determined by the calculated current value of the future cash flows. Here is a basic example of a DCF model......Often this is not exhibited by real life prices. Comparisons of Price to Earnings Ratio of companies in the same industry is another method of blah blah blah....". My mind can drone in and out of listening to a story or casual podcast conversation without really missing a whole lot. You can listen to a story and even missing a part here of there you can still generally follow along. I can't really listen to something that's like "here are these graphs and equations for examples" and miss it and comprehend something a couple pages later. Anyway this is getting hella long but the gist is some things I can drone out and do something else (work, run, wash dishes, whatever) and follow along easily and enjoy. Not all of these are true crime podcasts. Other things I absolutely cannot listen to as background noise.

[@PatientInAffliction]

@@celine2670completely agree. To the op, you were trying to compliment Stephanie but just be more sensitive abt what you say.

[@joyceadrianarodriguezelias4082]

I'm Peruvian. The show went on for many years, only changing the people in the red chair. They stopped being just any people and put national celebrities, used to ask them about the scandals they had had and similar things.

[@cyb3r_xpl0ti0n]

I'm peruvian and witnessed this in real time, though I was in elementary school and too young to understand. Thank you Stephanie and team for the explanation!!

[@Mr.WestcottX]

I see.

[@nomdeplume2213]

Can you tell me what the question was suppose to be at 1:01:20?! She never says what the question was... just that she said yes... wtf wasathe question?!?

[@kkochnip]

1:14:39 @@nomdeplume2213

[@kkochnip]

at 1:14:39@@nomdeplume2213

[@antoinettemezarina6568]

@@nomdeplume2213if she ever had s3x for money

[@ScaryMango6755]

If I found 250$ falling out a guy/girl's purse, I would give it to them on the spot, but if I just found it randomly lying in an alley, I would look around to check if I think it could belong to someone, like a kid, old person, or anyone looking around searching for it, if I don't, I would pocket it

[@suga3774]

Same. I think the issue here is they needed a yes or no, but it isn’t so simple without a context.

[@jobturkey7418]

This is the realest answer. I’m looking in the wallet. If it’s a kid or a girl or an old person I’m giving it back. If I see platinum cards an American Express black card that’s goin straight to me

[@napalm_lipbalm86]

​​@@jobturkey7418done that before. It was the owner of a nail salon. Only a couple hundred bucks in wallet.

[@willdreamz1263]

This was an actual hard question to know whether the lie detector would say lie or not. The situation is different depending on the context of how the money was dropped and whether it was obvious who the money belonged to. Just me thinking about this might trigger a lie reading no matter which answer I chose.

[@FreedomWriter3]

Same.

[@gurlwhowants2dj]

I think winning any kind of money on a reality TV show puts a Target on your back especially in a environment where people are kidnapped every day it's such an alarming rate

[@madeofsushi]

i don't know if this will be seen by anyone working for Rotten Mango, but I think it would be a really cool idea (if the researchers/employees were comfortable with it) if the end of the show had 'credits'. I think that would be such a lovely way to give credit to the people behind the screen. Sending so much love always x I am so lucky to have been a subscriber since the very beginning. Watching you grow has given me so much confidence within myself and I have been able to share with my friends as well. Happy vibes to you and your loved ones x

[@Ruqayalove_01]

They get paid enough what’s the point 😂

[@LinksQuestResearch]

nobody cares about the names of some employees

[@aditipoudel3387]

Hey that's a cool idea

[@neila128]

That might be a good and bad idea, on one hand the researchers can get credited and acknowledged, but on the other hand their names being revealed might compromise them for harassment or worse, since no matter how neutral and fact-based Stephanie presents these cases, some of them are VERY controversial cases :/

[@pinkcameo4698]

@@neila128exactly! they are being acknowledged but unnamed. best to leave it that way. 🥸

[@dunnoknowthiscat]

Stephanie, hi. There's a statement you said that in Peru prostitution is legal, actually it's in a gray area, because there is no law stating that it's a crime in our constitution ("ok" in law but no for the society), but there's no law that recognized it as a professional occupation, which is why they are often exploited by gangs or mafias and end up as victims

[@rezhaadriantanuharja3389]

Does Peru’s law recognize self-employment as a miscellaneous service provider? Then prostitution probably goes under this category, and therefore, is a legal occupation. Pretty sure the law does not extensively list all possible professional occupations on earth. Not ok by society does not make something illegal, by definition

[@dunnoknowthiscat]

@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389Actually, prostitution isn't looked like a self-employment type of job in Peru, it's more like a voluntary act to work in this type of field that's why it isn't included as a legal occupation. And about the illegal part, my mistake, what I mean is that peruvian society stigmatize prostitution that's why the question they made of her had a big impact.

[@mariaclaudiaquintanaestrad7053]

It actually legal, what is illegal is proxenetismo. So if you work by your own that already by if you work for someone that is prohibited

[@Gigimz]

True but legalized sex workers still get exploited, abused and menaced into non consensual acts. Just because it’s legalized doesn’t make it perfect and to be blunt sex work is all around physically and emotionally draining and simply not good for any party involved, no matter how you spin it or how it looks from the outside/on social media. We as a society would be better off working on a grass root level against it, creating opportunities where young women don’t need to turn to those types of jobs and that type of consumption isn’t promoted.

[@UnfilteredDubai]

PLEASE cover the case of Zhang Bo, the dad who threw his 2 kids off a balcony for his mistress.

[@scruffythefuzzybear7872]

What

[@btsakathelegends821]

I think she did cover thag case but i am not sure

[@homemadeluty3590]

​@@scruffythefuzzybear7872he said "PLEASE, cover the case of Zhang Bo, the dad who threw his 2 kids off a balcony for his mistress, and for a double baconator".

[@JustCallMeCeles]

the fac

[@AuroraR]

@@btsakathelegends821I think she covered on her Stephanie Soo mukbang channel. I believe she took all those videos down.

[@saraprva4172]

Stephanie is incredible, one of the greatest story tellers I ever see, such a naturally gifted young lady.

[@g.cookie1354]

I wanted to ask if you could cover the case of a Kazakhstan Ex-Minister killing his wife inside of a restaurant. Her name ist Saltanat Nukenowa. She seemed to always have been abused by him because friends noticed she had bruises on her body. There seems to be concrete evidence about her killing but it is talked about that he is going to get a light sentencing.

[@tripphoute2701]

Where did this happen? I want to read about it

[@g.cookie1354]

@@tripphoute2701 it happened in Kazakhstan, it seems like the killer has some good ties with government officials.

[@lizg0110]

Thank you for writing about Saltanat. This case is just so infuriating

[@javaholly]

Thank you. This case needs to be publicized more.

[@g.cookie1354]

I did some more research and it is devastating what happens to her. Another woman being a victim of domestic violence and the lawyers are absolutely cruel towards the deceased. He beat her brutally inside a restaurant in Astana, how did no one notice anything? How could he stay the night inside the restaurant with his already dead wife? Even if she slipped and fell more than once, so hard that she ended up passing, why did he never call an ambulance? It’s so sad and devastating to know how her life ended.

[@TarynRMartin]

Supposedly, a polygraph can be beaten by getting worked up during the “baseline” questions such as your name. Polygraphs measure things like heart rate and breathing, which probably could be affected by stepping on a thumbtack. You have to have either zero response to any question (like a sociopath) or the same reaction to every question. If you seem nervous/sweaty while answering your name, they won’t think you’re lying when you’re nervous/sweaty from the difficult questions.

[@joelle4226]

You don’t have to be a sociopath to pass a polygraph test

[@Memento_Mori_Morals]

​@@joelle4226true, but it makes it easier!

[@Mewsette1]

That thumbtack in the shoe is as old as the polygraph.

[@hhdbhn302]

with my social anxiety, the lie detector would tell me I gave the wrong name and age loool

[@PandoraBear357]

Polygraphs are unreliable in general. It's just a heart rate monitor. It doesn't tell anyone why your heart rate increased. Someone just makes assumptions and speculates that your heart rate increased because you lied. They supposedly have a 60% accuracy, which is really low considering someone can randomly guess if you're lying or not and be 50% accurate.

[@scarlettapplejaxsaj1767]

This is very much like the murder of Scott Amedure, who went on the Jenny Jones talk show in 1995 and professed his love for a male acquaintance. The guy felt super humiliated (this was the 90’s, so a different mindset than there is now) and ended up murdering Scott Amedure when they both went home. Jenny Jones ratings started decling, but she was still on the air until 2003! The guy that murdered Scott has been free from prison in 2017. This crap is tragic, and the lengths people will go to just to be on TV is repulsive. 🤢

[@Mewsette1]

The mindset wasn't different in the 90s. The two did have an affair and he was angry because he thought the guy outed him, but he didn't. He killed him for nothing.

[@englishblade]

Why would he confess he likes him though? Knowing damn well the effect it’d have on the friend, that case was selfish from Scott

[@QuikVidGuy]

​@@englishblade Scott did a lot of things wrong, none of which explain the murder without blaming James

[@mischr13]

@@englishblade would you say the same thing about a guy admitting to liking a girl? no one expects to get murdered for that, what do you mean "knowing damn well"??

[@sidneybales9062]

@@mischr13 The issue I think was the guy that Scott had a crush on wasn't gay. He was embarrassed and he was afraid his friends were going to make fun of him.

[@mjs23s63]

My god! So so young. I’m speechless. She had her whole life ahead of her. And how dare anyone judge unless you walked in their shoes! She was just eighteen.

[@juned1719]

No one absolutely NO ONE deserves to lose their lives the way Ruth did. The boyfriend & his co-conspirator deserve the harshest punishment possible. This is a tragedy that confirms that the love of money truly is the root of all evil. This girl destroyed her life and broke the heart of her loving parents/ family for money…SMDH.

[@quep771]

I agree no matter what she didn’t need to die for what she did. The shame was enough…but everything she did them ife she live and gave her body and soul for was what fell on her. She and her choices was her demise. She had a supportive family wasn’t going to be homeless she wanted a different life and was willing to sacrifice well she thought until the real price had to be paid

[@adamgreenspan4988]

Remember, the money they promised her, and any money she may have acquired in her private life, was a tiny fraction of what the producers made in airing the show. No matter what the contestants do or say, the makers of the show are the ones destroying people (especially young, impressionable people prone to questionable judgment choices) for profit.

[@stevenroberts5740]

tragedy is a bit of a stretch.

[@adamgreenspan4988]

@@stevenroberts5740 she was murdered, you don’t think that’s a tragedy?

[@MONKEYDZETS]

​@@quep771 ur right she didn't deserve to die but she played a dangerous game u can't humiliate someone on public television or the internet and expect them not to get even

[@Jasper_KN]

hearing what the mother went through after her daughters death brought a tear to my eye, people can be so horribly cruel. My prayers go out to Ruth and her family

[@luciagallegos6010]

As a Peruvian im so glad Sthepahnie covered this, she really makes international cases feel special.Just love her😍

[@sternundsonne]

1:01:29 What was the question?

[@meowsav]

😭 the fact no one answered on multiple diff comments. Apparently after searching in the comments, it was “would you ever have $3x in exchange for money?”

[@antoinettedavelouis1569]

As a Peruvian obsessed with this channel and Stephanie I couldn’t be more excited of her covering this case ❤

[@drophammer776]

As a Caucasian and new to this channel, (Which I enjoy listening to.) I'm excited that you're excited. 😊

[@jakelineychavez]

Same!!

[@pamelanartiff4222]

Same

[@dia3756]

maybe refrain from using words like "excited" when she's describing the death of a real human being... it's okay to have curiosity about cases like these but do not take the humanity out of these cases, a real person was murdered...

[@nohesiii]

@@dia3756for their comment is icky

[@ray-den6928]

This host has a gift. The way she narrate is excellent.

[@msee254]

The way you narrate these stories gives me chills and at a lot of points I found myself tearing up. Poor girl. I hope her family is healing

[@lumpy19722323]

Really??,

[@Rulya.BaruchHaShem.Morrigan]

I heard abt this story but you told it fantastically. You're such a good storyteller that you bring all of these stories to life.

[@TheBub26]

my cousin passed a polygraph and he was guilty. he had stolen $ from where he worked. how did he pass? he was a contrarian who loved negative attention, so he was unaffected by being suspect. the measurables revealed his apathy, but not his guilt. no thumbtack was needed

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

There's also ways they can make you look like you're lying when you're not. Interviewers can get truthful readings from you, then suddenly start asking questions in a much more aggressive and confronting way - "Are you having an affair with x?" vs "Do you jerk off thinking about x?" Being embarrassed or surprised doesn't register the same as your truthful reading, so you're "lying."

[@stain4128]

Did he keep the money unpunished or did he get caught eventually

[@juliagulia5823]

It's called a psychopath

[@fh9061]

Interesting. I looked up the arrests Stephanie mentioned but the articles only discussed the arrests without mentioning the method the cop passed on.

[@thefoxandthehound81]

@@juliagulia5823 thats a bit extreme lmao

[@Hood98]

As a Peruvian fan of yours Steph I just wanna say thank you for covering WORLDWIDE cases and not just those here in the states. I’ve been seeing more representation of my country and I’m loving it. Even tho this is a horrible case I’m glad you corvettes it so people are more familiar with the things going on in Peru as it’s a very messy but beautiful country ❤

[@thephalange8630]

This is so sad... She was only 18, when I think back to being 18, I thought I figured out the whole world, I thought I knew what I wanted and when I wanted it in life, I thought I'm on top of the world, so how could I judge someone in a much harder financial situation than I have ever been in, no, I couldn't and wouldn't judge her.

[@englishblade]

Nah most of us are not working in strip clubs secretly and then going on tv to admit they don’t like their bf and lied everything else to their parents Ruth is just an idiot who will always stay an idiot

[@hotmess9640]

yeah, my thoughts exactly.

[@MONKEYDZETS]

I'll judge her for doing this show this was just evil

[@gargdallas5564]

Yes if you live past 50 maybe even 40 but definitely 50 you really see hw and remember how you thot you knew everything and time and age health is what other folks were burden with. I can say this young girl kinda showed she'd prob do anything for money.. sex, lie, ambush, humiliate blindside folks. Hopefully she's in a better place forgiven for sins that non of us here are without.. that's the important end at anyone's etenal soul at death. God forgive Me and Ruth the murderer everyone involved and here reading for all of our sins and give us strength to better serve you and your father.

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@MONKEYDZETS So you'll judge her for being young and stupid, as if you were never young yourself?

[@vaughnchambers8790]

WOW, The best story teller in podcast style I have seen. Riveting, fascinating and intriguing. No wonder you have over 3 million subscribers, this is the best narration with so much energy and inclusivess- drawing me into every word you speak with passion and drama at every change in your plot. I have binge watched so many of your stories, you are undoubtedly the best podcaster on KZbin.❤

[@Jay-nj1rq]

People disgust me, and I’m not at all talking about Ruth. I was naive as hell at 18 and producers would’ve manipulated her in any way they could on top of her financial desperation. Dare I say the country’s conservatism is responsible for all the mental torment. I just can’t stand how society and the media are so rotten

[@DD-hp9vo]

At 18 she was not naive enough to lie, to live a double life. Or to work in a strip club. Or to engage in prostitution. Not naive enough to sell her body and soul for money. If she was that naive then she wouldn't try to cover up her double life, she knew what she was doing she just didn't have the capacity to care. She said it herself - she admitted to just being with the boyfriend till someone better comes along and admitted to being embarrassed by the parents. This is clearly a person deeply lacking in care and empathy. Not a case of naivety.

[@massivel]

@@DD-hp9vo you do realize that there are prostitutes at all ages, even young children, right?? she was desperate for money and sold sex for it. it doesnt make her some cunning criminal or a bad person. Plenty of girls who are poor start selling themselves at like 12 years old without the assistance of a pimp. That doesnt mean that they are evil geniuses at 12, just shows that they are desperate and nothing more.

[@undynetheundying5405]

​@@DD-hp9vocome on, people make mistakes. She was trying to rise above her situation, didn't know any better, or maybe she did not fully understand the consequences of her actions. Doesn't mean she sold her soul. Doesn't mean she tried to hurt those who loved her, and it is obvious that she was the one who got hurt the most in the end. She was killed. She is the victim here.

[@timkelly6985]

Liberalism is a plague upon mankind.

[@violentlyexplosive]

​@@DD-hp9voi think you're forgetting that an 18 year old is still very much a teenager. she would not have been fully developed mentally, neurologically- not even physically. when you live in a situation like hers, and you're young and subsequently careless, you make stupid, dangerous decisions. I know I certainly did at 18. I think the only person lacking empathy here is you.

[@MsNatalieeeee]

stephanie has such a graceful way of speaking about people who have passed. when she spoke about ruth’s mother after it was all said and done, how she would speak to ruth’s photo every morning, the inflection of her voice made it all the more gut wrenching. thank you so much for the work you put into these podcasts. ❤

[@herhermeone]

the way the last question was genuinely so anticlimactic is WILD

[@nellieluthman8432]

what was even the last question????

[@Eternally_Mimi]

@@nellieluthman8432yeah, what was it??

[@Eternally_Mimi]

Pls tell me what the last question is🙏🏽

[@nellieluthman8432]

@@Eternally_Mimi it was something like "have you ever had se× for monney"

[@dezgarci10]

If she had ever been paid for sex.

[@111vdm]

This was such a sad story... and yet you captured it perfectly, enjoyed watching it!

[@amohelangmotsau7127]

this episode was slighty more difficult to understand. for some one with adhd it felt like you were all over the place with the scenarios and got lost multiple times trying understand which scene you were at.

[@pinguufuuuu]

because to be brutally honest she was sensationalizing it just like the peruvian media did to ruth.

[@LoveOfLam]

Take your meds bro

[@miral6694]

Yeah, especially that 14-minute lede-burying was really hard to keep track of. Hopefully the folks who wrote this episode learn to string together a more solid timeline of events and not skip around for the sake of drama to this extent - it doesn't even result in tension the way it was done, just frustration.

[@Parasocial9]

I don’t have have adhd and I also found it confusing to follow and had to rewind some parts too

[@icanbreathe9161]

There was nothing confusing about this episode. Take your meds.

[@fernandamartinez987]

As a peruvian, im so thankful that you're covering this case, i remember when all this happened, it was really sad and surprising.

[@kittyiess]

What makes no sense to me out of all this craziness is why did the murders dad beat up the victims mom? Was he charged for that or given any consequences cause what do you mean she was almost beaten to death over being rightfully upset and distraught about her daughter’s brutal murder?

[@tanepukenga1421]

Muderer's dad beat MURDERERS mum, not the victim's. The murderer grew up with domestic violence which seems to be a family trait

[@candiland_plus6679]

The mom’s screaming being captured and played on news outlets is horrendous to me! I will NEVER forget the gut wrenching sob/scream my mother let out when we found out my brother passed away. 12 years later it’s still ingrained in my head. ❤ I hope the mother is finding peace now.

[@worldofedits3641]

Hi, Stephanie, there’s a crazy case floating around about Kazakhstan’s ex-minister Bishimbayev unaliving his wife in a karaoke bar. And He told that the wife hurt herself by slamming her own head to the toilet! The story is unhinged and infuriating! Can you please tell about this case? It would mean a lot 🤯

[@kiIIuazoldyck]

I had to rewind some parts a couple of times bc i thought i missed something, especially about the last question of the show that Ruth had to answer. I thought i missed when Steph said what the question was, turns out, she hasnt even mention the question yet. The wording and structure of the videos lately have been really confusing for me :/

[@theteaho7080]

I love Stephanie, but that annoyed me soo much 😂 I just wanted her to hurry up and say what the question was

[@Ferjsb]

Same! I love her videos but this one was extremely confusing.

[@svirgo1224]

Was confusing for me too. The tangents threw me off.

[@aflairforthe.evi.]

surprisingly i followed along well, even while i only listened to the audio on apple podcasts first. it’s just like when shows keep having flashbacks but i honestly didn’t mind it

[@svirgo1224]

@@aflairforthe.evi. that's really good. Our brains are wired differently 😅 most of the time though I can follow along to her.

[@asmokeus]

1:01:19 "ruth chooses to continue and beto asks her question three of three. her family already knows the answer" 1:02:34 "just one more yes or no question" 1:03:29 "they ask the question and she responds 'yes'" 1:04:58 "wait so we still don't know what the question is yet?" "you will" EDIT: 1:14:38 "last question: have you ever accepted money in exchange for s*x?" girl. come on. i know it's fun to build suspense but i just got so lost, i kept rewinding several minutes thinking i'd missed it 💀 it's lowkey super confusing when you jump suddenly into several minutes' worth of very vague details right in the middle of the narrative. the lovely bones episode was functionally difficult to listen through for the same reason ;;;;

[@TheDonGonz]

Agreed. I was very confused. Also the taxi story about the dad was injected into a very odd spot that didn’t make sense in the context

[@Ashlwie]

I thought I was tripping on the first one 1:01:19, I had to go back three times, I don't think she said the question tho.

[@kimdracula_og]

I think for that amount of suspense, the final question would have to be something WAY worse.

[@thecainesoren]

You are a HERO. I rewinded and listened to that part at least 3 times wondering if I'm stupid for not catching the question THAT WAS NEVER SAID. It was hard enough already with the constant back and forth, and I was left wondering whether I missed "the" question 3 times in a row because English is not my native language, or because it was just left out from that segment completely.

[@thecanadakid7622]

She tands to add her opinion on things too much, which sways from the story, and tends to make it drag on. I enjoy this but it's bit long winded, this did not need to be over an hour long, it's a bit much, hard to not skip up a bit to hear what happens.

[@breezy75]

The photo of her mom crying at her funeral is absolutely heart breaking. RIP to Ruth and God Bless her family 😢 I’m from LA Cali and we used to watch moment of truth.

[@katm6744]

omg I cried. She did what she knew she could, to help support her family. She was young and human.

[@XDarkXThanatosX]

Polygraphs don't stand up in court because they can also show that you are lying when you are not. They go both ways. Someone can beat a polygraph by say, stepping on a thumb tack, but on the flip side, If someone is nervous, that can cause it to say they are lying even If they are not. If someone tells a lie, but completely believe that lie, they will pass. There's no way of knowing what is really the truth or lie, believed or not believed, and no way of knowing exactly what the lie is(part of the question, or the answer itself). This is why nowadays they combine the polygraph with observations of body movement and facial expressions and then link those with evidence they have. A polygraph on its own only shows what makes someone nervous, but not why.

[@damien678]

That's all I can think about... I have a panic disorder (which is very basically having unexplained, frequent panic attacks) so I'd be so screwed 😅 I also have autism so I probably would move or gesture in a way that's confusing to some

[@XDarkXThanatosX]

@@damien678 Reasons why nobody should ever take a polygraph as truth. Even the guy who invented it hated that it was used with any level of seriousness. There are many examples of serial killers passing them, and many examples of innocent people failing them. They don't tell truths, yet give others a reason to determine what a lie is, and all it takes is a small amount of bias for it to be used as confirmation.

[@PinkieJoJo]

And as I was just saying as well it will show you are truthful if you believe something to be true. It doesn’t mean that it’s actually true. I cannot believe how many people don’t grasp that concept. Someone could be asked if the sky is green. It’s not of course but if they wholeheartedly believe it is then they will be found as truthful.

[@raycollete8457]

I got full body chills listening to this case. On one hand, it feels like everyone involved is a victim, but on the other, the ones that were most exploited and destroyed were her closest family. I pray that they all find peace.

[@ramonab3035]

You are absolutely superb at story telling. Captivating! When I need a chill time you capture me to the point where I forget my stresses. Thank you! Keep it up beautiful 👑👌🏻👏🏻...love from 🇬🇧 xx

[@atmywhitson]

I had the same reaction the Stephanie's "Truth Suitcase" analogy. One reason Rotten Mango is my favorite podcast & KZbin true crime and commentary is how well spoken and engaging Stephanie is. I love the back & forth between Steph and her husband. He seems so sweet ❤ Than you, R.M for uploading the best stuff on YT. 👏 🥭 🙌🏼 ✨️

[@ananya7364]

timestamp please?

[@humanbean1004]

I'm Peruvian and I was around Ruth's age when this happened. It was shocking to hear about the show when she disappeared but I don't remember anyone on any news network reporting on the case as "the prostitute" from the show. Her name became extremely well known and we all knew her as the first contestant of the show. I reviewed the show notes looking for any evidence that pointed that out but could find anything. What actually happened was that some everyday people did call her like that even after she passed away. Everyday Peruvians with no compassion were that callous, but that didn't happen on the news, at least that didn't happen in Peruvian news.

[@it.comes.around]

Thank you for commenting this. Hearing her say that in English wasn’t so bad, but when I said it out loud in Spanish, I had to pause and process it, because even if it’s a bad word in English, it just feels so much worse in Spanish and I can’t see a lot of news sources using it, particularly any reputable ones.

[@dunnoknowthiscat]

Exactly! I was in high school when I saw the news, but I know that most of the news in tv, online and some newspapers reporting the case as the first winner of the show but not "the prostitute", maybe a couple of the 'chicha' newspapers that create big headlines as bait to buy and read their side of the story

[@p2urple2]

​@@dunnoknowthiscatI agree with you. And to clarify, 'Chicha' newspapers are a very very low Tier newspapers focused only in getting buyers with Fake news or exaggerated headlines.

[@mariaalejandracabrerapadil1029]

Thank you!! I was 19 when this came out and EVERYONE and their mother knew her name! Maybe a chicha newspaper called her ‘The prostitute’ but I never saw it and it wasn’t on tv. I couldn’t find anything either. Also, I know she’s a victim of a horrible crime but when the show came out everyone thought she was awful, not for the sex thing but because she was so embarrassed of her parents. She repeatedly stated how they were poor and ignorant, how she deserved so much more and their hard work was not enough so she had to dance at a nightclub to get more stuff. It was bad. So there was a lot of people saying she deserved it because of her greed. It was an awful case all around.

[@DD-hp9vo]

But honestly wat was the expectation? She herself admitted to this, she said yes she participated in prostitution. Aside from this she admitted to other questionable choices regarding other forms of sex work - i.e. dancing/stripping in a nightclub known to offer sex services in Peru. So why is it offensive, what was the expectation if she WILLINGLY admitted to this on such a public platform.

[@wqluw2193]

Hi Stephanie! it would be great if you uncovered the case of Saltanat Nukenova, which is currently taking place in Kazakhstan. An ex minister of economy Kuandyk Bishimbayev brutally unalived his wife at the restaurant, and now he’s pleading not guilty in court. This case is very important for Kazakhstan’s situation with woman rights, and overall the world should know about this awful event, because we need to draw attention to it so that Bishimbayev gets punished for what he did by the law! If we don’t talk about this enough, the court will get corrupted and they will let him free. I really love your content and I think your platform would be a great way to share this case with the outer world. Thank you!

[@Natalia-Millan]

Thanks for the episode.I am from Spain and I saw the actual show after listening to the podcast, it breaks my heart. By the way I believe that your translation was on point. You have a good translator and please keep in mind that the Spanish that was spoken at the show was very much standard and easy to understand to any Spanish speaking person

[@Alissa.Noel.]

The visceral reaction I had to this is unreal. From the treatment of Ruth, to the treatment of her family. The reaction of Ruth’s family I truly feel it. My heart breaks into a million pieces. Into a literal million pieces. I feel it. My heart and prayers are with Ruth’s family and Ruth always.

[@thayanavaldeiglesias6509]

Peruvian here! I watched this show when it aired. It really seemed very weird to me when the show brought just a “regular” person for the show because they would normally have very famous guests over. However this special case was very shocking. If you guys ever watch the show you can see her body language, the way she speaks and holds herself she seems to have a good heart and be a very genuine person which keeps you hooked to watch the full show. Feminicide has been and still is a really bad problem in Peru. Besides Feminicide, Peru is a very VERY conservative country and still is: People will look down on you if you divorce your partner (it doesn’t matter if they hit you or if they cheated on you the woman will always look bad), people will judge you if you are not either catholic or Christian, if your kids don’t go to a good school or college, if you are poor, if you look like a “cholo”, if you opted to not be straight, if you don’t have a good job, racism and classism on top of that. This is very sad but the truth. I love my country but this is part of the dark side of this country. I also don’t live in Peru anymore, I love love my country and I am deeply sad because I am a woman and I am very vocal on what makes me uncomfortable and I know this is something that many men or just people over there won’t ever be able to handle over there.

[@jazming5847]

Era el primer episodio del valor de la verdad por eso eligieron a una persona cotidiana al suceder el trágico suceso decidieron cambiar a solo poner personajes públicos en el programa.

[@lorimiller4301]

People don't choose to be gay. They are made that way. God loves them just the same. Any soul could go into a gay body. We play every role that is available because that's how we learn to love ourselves and others. We have been every race, every role, every living thing.

[@homemadeluty3590]

​@@lorimiller4301that's what you took from all of that? Sounds like you chose to give a gay comment

[@polarbearstudio90]

I didnt realize that kind of expectation also in Peru. It really similar to lot of parents here in Asia.

[@bipolargamechanger]

I hate this world for women. So primitive

[@fraydizs7302]

The "thumbtack" method of beating a polygraph test is from a movie called "Oceans Twelve" where one of the main characters gets a job at a casino by passing a polygraph test by keeping a thumbtack in his shoe and stepping on it while answering questions.

[@refinnej5302]

The rumor of that method has been around long before Oceans 12 existed.

[@lorenavelez2052]

Qq que qqq❤​@@refinnej5302

[@melissamoonchild9216]

yeah I'm guessing it changes your baseline right because it increases stress when you step on the tack

[@tanepukenga1421]

It's way older than oceans 12 lmfao. There's movies from the 70's, 30 years prior, showing it. Funnily enough, that's not even a real method of avoiding the test. It IS a great method to get someone's heart rate up and find out they're trying to cheat the test though. Like a paramedic dropping a hand over someone's face

[@christinegray9040]

I truly appreciate how kind and thoughtful you are of the family ❤

[@JuanMartinez-fs6gu]

I think that Brian was actually her pimp. Him having killed her was purely about money nothing to do with passion or public humiliation. His modus operandi into her murder was that of a typical ruthless pimp.

[@calmsine7767]

And obviously he can’t say he’s a pimp on tv, but he ended up looking like a cuck

[@SnappyCreeper]

haha ruthless

[@saymyname2417]

​@@SnappyCreeper - What is funny about that? Juan could be absolutely correct. Besides, there is nothing funny about this case.

[@SnappyCreeper]

@@saymyname2417 get it bc her name is ruth so like ruthless lol

[@saymyname2417]

@@SnappyCreeper - Oh, I see 😅 . Now THAT is a pun ... 😅

[@cheekymoses]

STEPHANIE🔥🔥🔥 The way she made the pivot from game show to missing daughter and then back. She is directing the movie, and we are following on the edge of our seats. You are incredible🎉🎉🎉

[@erikandersson9060]

And then the husband come in and ruins the tension

[@queenelizabethi5316]

@@erikandersson9060no he asks the questions a lot of us were thinking of lmao

[@sanjanashah7426]

@@erikandersson9060 Not at all, his curiosity makes it even better!

[@Mondscheinelfe]

@@erikandersson9060I love stubby’s comments and questions bc so many times I had the same and otherwise wouldn’t have understood

[@chareejohnson7708]

What was the last question?

[@imjubli._.]

I’m so glad she uploaded again, I couldn’t get myself to watch the cat video as a fellow cat owner

[@thodempire5365]

yeah, don't... that one was pretty rough. 😢

[@Christinahello]

I listened to it and it was brutal... I can't even imagine seeing the actual videos of the cat torture. How can people be so sick in the head

[@woolieee]

Don't watch/listen to it. It's pretty hard to get through. I was listening on Spotify and had to stop multiple times bc it was so awful. I have 2 cats and at the end I was just laying there on the floor with them wondering how ppl could do that do such sweet lil things

[@deeslif3style355]

yea me too i was waiting , i couldn’t get myself to watch it

[@Maisiemeow93]

It was so rough 😢

[@mikehawkins9678]

Never heard of this young lady before and I only watched this video because she was so beautiful but two or three minutes into the story, I was hooked as she was truly a very good story teller. After five minutes, I was just completely hooked all the way to the end. I hit the subscribe button immediately!!!!

[@Karwritter]

Femicide is running rapid. Her story was heart breaking.

[@bethewalt7385]

The expression is run rampant or as you say running rampant..not rapid

[@Kicodesigns]

47:37 “that’s a weird analogy” “thank you” 💀 😂😂

[@sanna9062]

He said "really good"

[@freyjascats]

They're disappointed in her for doing what she had to do to make ends meet, but couldn't understand why she would humiliate herself on tv for money?? She was in a bad situation.

[@millye6308]

You will not understand how much people going through their lives in this world ... she was tied for dancing and have sex for money .. she want to have a career , help her parents and to be proud .. do you ever starved because you had no money??do you ever see a family member died in pain because they couldn't afford a hospital …😢😢😢 l feel her

[@babymama406]

@@millye6308listen, I really do understand desperate situations. If doing some sort so SW was standing between me and my family starving or needing medical care, I can see myself doing whatever was necessary. However, they weren’t starving. She went to college. She could’ve had a regular job (like one at a call center). And even if she did it for good reasons, it was always a bad idea to go on a show like this where it would not only shame her, but her entire family. It’s up to her what she does with her own life, but now she’s ruining her parents life, reputations, and business as well. That’s not okay or understandable. Don’t misunderstand me, I do have empathy for her and I definitely think she didn’t deserve to have any sort of harm come to her, but bottom line is, don’t equate what she did with someone being forced to participate in bad things to literally survive. That’s not what she was doing. She was wanting to make easier and quicker money, but she didn’t need to sell herself. Her situation wasn’t that dire. She wasn’t starving or homeless and neither was her family.

[@bobisu3111]

I feel like even without the show, once Brian found out about Ruths secrets he very well could have still killed her. I really really really hope that her parents have been surrounded by love and support since this, they went through SO much!

[@sharizard4768]

immediately knew this was the show that Cody Ko covered a bunch but had no freakin clue this happened omg

[@sarahlovee1865]

Same. I was thinking they gave Mark an out by not talking about this one

[@poosypumpkin]

me too but with rebal d

[@lostineggsaisle]

I watched that video he did on the US version.

[@roxvid2]

This is why i could never move to my parent's home country Ecuador, they have the same mindset. Full of gossip, misogynistic, no empathy, and just being behind the times in general.

[@Mr.WestcottX]

Can I see. Why, outdated mindset and beliefs. 🇪🇨 Like 🇵🇪

[@wendychavez5348]

My partner is 1st generation American from an Ecuadorian family, though from what I've seen of his family they're quite progressive. Maybe part of the reason they all left Ecuador when his grandpa was offered a teaching position here? Steve's mom & her sisters all followed him, got married & reproduced, & I'm glad to be almost part of their family. Might not feel the same if they were more conservative.

[@Mr.WestcottX]

@@wendychavez5348 I see.

[@ScreamQueenz]

@@wendychavez5348in Ecuador I’d say it’s a bit more comparable to the states some areas/families are very conservative and some are. For example gay marriage is legal and Ecuador used to be one of the safest Latin American countries but in the last four years it’s become one of the unsafest. This change has definitely caused more conservative views to come back due to everyone being afraid of their safety, for example a lot of people blame immigrants of Colombia and Venezuela because of the migration of their cartels. In the last year one of the more progressive presidential candidates was murdered in public and the a few months ago the local news broadcast was taken hostage by gang members.

[@mariaclaudiaquintanaestrad7053]

@@wendychavez5348it depends is you are in a family group or a friend group that is more into de acceptance is find. But you can also find the other side of the story

[@itssofi1183]

i havent nearly finished the video yet but it is CRAZY to hear a PERUVIAN case. the mind trip of hearing steph describe beto when my mom and i watch his news show every night 😭😭😭 first peruvian case ive ever heard of too, keep up the awesome content

[@JoseGomez-jr8hn]

What I learned from this is reputation is everything and it’s better to lie than tell your truth even if deep down most people agree.

[@jamiealfenso737]

Yup. That's humans for you.

[@DeadLkeMe]

Wow! For a moment I thought you were covering the American 00s Moment of Truth. The wildest one was a wife openly admitting to not only cheating on her husband, but cheating on him with his best friend and coworkers....while he's sitting like 10ft away ☠️ apparently prior to the show, he knew that she had cheated "once" but didn't realize the full extent. She ended up getting eliminated because when asked if she believed herself to be a good person, she answered a confident yes but the lie detector said it was a "lie". I think it was mostly the producers trying to ixnay her off.

[@jonl7855]

The fact that she lost on that was just a perfect summary of how pathetic of a person she was. Can’t believe the guy just stood and took all of that too.

[@cinycaybudgets]

This!!! When I saw this episode, I was trying to remember the show where it happened and it was called moment or truth. That moment was in the news for weeks lol

[@lustforlimerence]

there was a colombian version that was cancelled shortly after a woman on it was asked if she hired a hit man for her husband, and she said yes AND WALKED AWAY WITH MONEY BC IT WAS THE TRUTH

[@dailealexander2055]

I watched that episode with my mom the night it aired (all the way back in 2008), & I can STILL remember how horrendously uncomfortable it was to watch! I couldn't imagine being that woman's poor husband, he looked utterly devastated & you could just tell she completely broke his heart. Not only did she admit to cheating, she also admitted that she wished she was married to her ex-boyfriend instead of her husband. Afterward, she said she went on the show in an attempt to gain "fame & fortune." 🙄 And after all that, she ended up leaving without a single dime. That's karma for you 😂 I hope her (now ex-) husband is doing much better these days.

[@purplespaceship2417]

"ixnay" - Just got an interesting etymology lesson out of your comment. At first I thought it was some sort of misspell, then decided it seemed deliberate so I looked it up. A pig latin word that has entered the mainstream lexicon...crazy

[@KaiLucasZachary]

I remember being really excited by this show as a kid, but after the first episode my mother refused to watch it and didn’t want me watching it. To my kid mind, it was basically just truth or dare on national television. This was one of the few times though where my mother was absolutely right about something being so awful. I can’t fathom how this show got any willing contestants in the first place.

[@mariaclaudiaquintanaestrad7053]

She really was the only participant that wasn’t famous, the other ones where tv or music personalities. I already look at it. There wasn’t other no famous participant

[@nadiamorales4628]

as a peruvian, i was shocked when I finally understood Stephanie was talking about what happened about 10 years ago...

[@ineselmoumni]

Was it a really big deal back then ?

[@S.anty0]

⁠@@ineselmoumni in the Latino community. Hell yeah it was it was everywhere even in the Latino news stations from here would air the story

[@boorish2115]

i used to be an aspiring journalist but this is exactly the type of bs that has made me completely disgusted by the media. anything to get the scoop that eventually increases your salary. to make it in this business you have to lay down all empathy for humans who are already going through something, just to get the money shot