Teenager is suspected of taking the life of a classmate, but his parents don't want to believe it

[@michaelfarineau6]

I find the ambiguous ending unsatisfying, but the story overall was good.

[@jbabyinNYC]

My theory is Jacob saw what the guy Patz did to Ben from start to finish but just didn’t say anything. Maybe because he felt Ben deserved it or he enjoyed what he saw. It would explain the fingerprint on ben’s jacket. It’s no denying Jacob has violent tendencies, the story he wrote, the videos he watched on his laptop, the picture he posted during the trial, and the situation at bowling alley when he was younger. He said the picture he post was joke but it’s a lot of truth in a joke, plus how could he have so many details to be able to write at story. I believe what he saw Patz do he wanted to do himself but didn’t have the nerve. Patz was definitely involved why did he have those pictures and why was he so happy when he knew the police had Jacob. I would go as far to say Patz knew Jacob was watching and they shared a glance with each other while in the woods. Patz didn’t come after Jacob cause he knew they were same. I believe Jacob is violent but not violent enough to kill, he just has a sick side to him that needs therapy

[@IamJustAli]

That's good.

[@biakthuamipachuau4073]

You are a true detective...

[@Horopter]

In the book however, it was definitely Jacob.

[@ttortugo666]

Maaan what a nice comment. I still have my doubts.

[@CapucineNighly]

@@Horopter In the book it wasn't stated that Jacob did it. The author left it open for readers to figure out. I agree that he probably witnessed the murder from start to finish and in his sick mind, Ben deserved what he got. Fully innocent? Probably not, but he let Ben die by someone else, and didn't help.

[@burtan2000]

But Patz had photos of the kid. He was shown to be quite suspicious.

[@lucyk2371]

That is what I liked about the movie. You question everything.

[@indoroyale7848]

Question is , Is he merely a pervert or a murderous pervert?

[@jabellatv3240]

Grieving mother or not if you spit in my face you getting your ssa whooped, You can’t always blame parents for their children’s actions especially when they’ve done the best they can in raising them but if you know your child is troubled please get them the help they need because they can’t do it alone

[@farrinlandmesser]

FACTS ...lk I said sometimes it's the parents fault

[@Adoniis101]

😂 yeah, sure 😂

[@PrabhulKrishna-mk6oj]

Don't forget the fact that the grieving mother's boy was a bully

[@EasyEk5]

You know mma?

[@GreysonKey-tc7pm]

I swear I was thinking the same thing

[@burtan2000]

What kind of prosecutor or Captain America would be dumb enough to dump the possible murder weapon in a random garbage can?

[@Shyknit]

Exactly he has to have some doubt in his mind, otherwise why not turn it in to get tested and disprove it was the murder weapon if he's so sure

[@DarkroomMedia007]

😅😅

[@Dr_Larken]

Because they unfortunately don’t understand, randomness doesn’t exist!

[@zero1188]

Why is it a bad idea?

[@Shyknit]

@@zero1188 because he can't turn it in to rule out his kid or prove his kid actually was the murdered, plus if by happenstance they do find it it will look guilty and suspicious dumping it

[@lazkid220]

so what evidence did they have? gossip on facebook, grampa's genetics, and a fingerprint? pretty weak case

[@Tata-bd9nx]

Missing knife that he carried everywhere conveniently disappearing, how he wrote the story 3days after allegedly killing him

[@bighorn6964]

​@Tata-bd9nx still not enough proof

[@brianbrown4513]

Yep, all circumstantial. Not enough to convict beyond reasonable doubt.

[@fizalex6612]

this show is a great example of guilty until proven innocent.

[@brettlarsen4650]

It is deliberately ambiguous on which of the three main suspects did it. Pats, the PDF file, clearly was doing something wrong with Ben. Derek’s mom lied to the cops about his alibi, we know this because he took Sarah Ben’s phone that he stole from him on the day of the murder. And Jacob wrote a detailed description of the murder and posted it online. All three had motive, means and opportunity. It is supposed to make people question.

[@moniqueengleman873]

Think? Murica loves to be spoonfed

[@AA-ed6ek]

@@moniqueengleman873 What? Lol.

[@Shyknit]

21:30 you'd think it'd be pretty obvious if you're in this situation to not talk to random strangers who approach you or your family...

[@tablescissors]

But the plot!

[@Jarockstar]

Jacob is, for sure, a sociopath. As for his guilt, more information is needed.

[@IamJustAli]

His story was his confession.

[@andiemarie5160]

Good point Jarockstar, more info before jaguilty!

[@ifeanyiduruaku1244]

Top cast delivering a top performance. Amazing acting 👏👏👏👏

[@thanurs]

Thanks for the recap, I started watching when it came out and for some reason stopped watching right before the last episode… and I did NOT feel like rewatching the whole show 😅

[@lovingkatyrabrown]

I believe Derek did it only because he had Ben missing phone with the photos of the girl in it

[@hadleyjamison7553]

I don’t think Jacob did it because the first clue of that day would be his clothes and he wore the same clothes all day

[@kristahathaway9308]

Yeah that doesn't mean she could have changed and changed back into better ones

[@mrkmoney1234]

@kristahathaway9308 Parents would have noticed if he changed unless Jacob could get back him before they did and even then, Jacob would have to leave his clothes somewhere. Ben was attack from behind so there’s a chance that no blood got on his clothes but what about his hands? He would need to wash his hands completely free of any blood and his knife. Jacob does look to be the suspect but the people immediately viewing him as guilty even before the trial is the dumbest thing even in real life. You’re assumed guilty and have to prove your innocence.

[@Chynasyndrome83]

Read the novel, it's great 💕

[@ayubleonard1837]

Derek had the phone and Leonard had photos of Ben...One of them did it and whoever did it the son saw it and did not report cause he lked watching it.. oor Leo killed Ben beecause he liked a girl/someon else other than him

[@lisefrazier5984]

The book is very good.

[@yafayafa9601]

And a "confession letter" can't be suspected by the police as being written at an armed murderer's request?!

[@pablodablo9869]

Very, good recap.

[@FlygerianTravelsTours]

For some reason I feel Sarah might be involed somehow.. cause she was the center of the the major players

[@lucyk2371]

I don't believe that you can really say if the son did it. Toddlers believe that they can be washed down the drain. It's not a stretch to think at such a young age that he still thought in cartoon terms. Also, violent video games etc. are a part of our macho society. Teen boys are exposed to all kinds of things. I can really say that I do not know if the son did it. I've seen people convicted on how they acted after something horrible happened to them. Everyone acts differently. When people are in shock not reacting is a coping mechanism. Sometimes you have to wait until you get home to fall apart. I have always found this a dubious reason to convict someone. The main thing that I did find incriminating is the fact that he wrote that story about the murders after it happened. That is problematic.

[@estipiteapofonico]

''macho society'', our society is anything but macho.

[@andiemarie5160]

Agreed. And everyone's reaction to anything is not a "one size fits all" It annoys me when a detective in any show or documentary re-enactment says "we know someone else was driving the car because the seat was pushed back" I am a short person who has to sit up close to drive but anytime I am parked or waiting in the car I immediately push the seat all the way back to relax. I don't put the seat back until I get back in the car. Also, when they say "he/she knew the attacker because there was no forced entry" that's another assumption that may or may not be correct. Years ago I was walking home, as I crossed the street there was a man walking down the sidewalk in front of me on a north to south direction caddy corner from me. He wasn't looking at me and did not feel like a threat in the middle of the day. I crossed in front of him about a hundred feet in distance in an East to west direction headed to my apt's side door. I opened the door and went in. He must have moved quickly because he closed the gap pretty fast, opening my door and coming in my apt right behind me. I just stood there staring at him in shock. Then my 3 Kids 4, 10, and 12 years old, my adult babysitter and her boyfriend entered the room all staring at him too. He left. Since then I lock my door behind me (I try 100%) every time, even in the daytime. I know other people do not typically do this, because of how annoyed they are, that I do.So that too, is a maybe they knew the attacker maybe they didn't situation, not a concrete clue. And- I always freeze when being accused by harsh words and I am unable to speak while it's happening. I don't like confrontation so I don't respond until later when no one is yelling anymore. This is often seen as "you didn't have anything to say to defend yourself, so whatever you're trying to say now is a lie" once again as harsh accusation renders me speechless, I have plenty to say, but no one will listen later. No matter how many times I replay what I should've said in my head, I didn't speak up when it mattered. Finally, the video game violence is a seriously bad influence on our youth. I learned by the time I was in School, that cartoon violence was supposed to "not be taken seriously, because irl, people get hurt, so we don't act like that" it's supposed to be funny. Toys do not come alive at night, and only birds can fly. We are taught that until it makes sense to us as we mature. That takes time. Considering the "one size fits all" conclusions are not true, where the guilt lies here is anyone's guess bcuz it is a movie. But I'm gonna agree with you, the story he wrote, the picture posted, and the fact he continued his social media is highly suspect. Really? Are you confident your dad can get you out of this trouble, self sabotaging, or just stupid!?! IRL, these things cause police to zero their focus onto who they "like" for it, and stop looking at the derek and patz of the situation- who could also be guilty for just as many reasons.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Macho society? Lol, what kind of society do you live in? Also, do you think only boys are ''exposed'' to video games and violence or that games can trully make someone a murderous psychopath? I do agree that people react differently and we can't measure someone's guilt or innocence based of a seeming lack of or delayed reaction (which is a defence mechanism that you say and therefore not ''abnormal'')

[@matthewlaud8441]

It was definitely Derek

[@jbabyinNYC]

I believe Derek saw Jacob coming out the woods and thought he did it cause he followed him and saw Ben’s body. In the process of discovering the body he took the phone in hopes of making Sarah happy. I believe Jacob and Derek discovered the body on the their own but just didn’t say/do anything.

[@ran247dom]

@@jbabyinNYC😊

[@ren9027]

@@jbabyinNYC derek gave sarah the phone 2 days before ben's demise. sarah said this

[@RouxEnYHepaticoJejunostomy]

​@@jbabyinNYCexactly my thoughts bro

[@mikegardens]

The story doesn't give enough for the viewer to make a conclusion. It shows glimpses of evidence that it could have been Patz, Jacob or Derek. Interesting story line and plot twists, but the ending doesn't want the viewer to know who the killer was. It seems the point of the movie is that all of the main characters are flawed, dishonest and in some way capable of the worst. Pretty bleak and dark take on the human condition.

[@diosahalstrom5450]

All people are capable of violence. Some people can be sociopaths but do not harm other people.

[@JulianaBintiMadhi26]

Wow, that's so good series really very crime 10/10.

[@Omaymahhoumaidi]

The worst movies of all are those with np clear endings and unanswered questions. A total waste of time. Even the recap is a waste of the narrator's time and all of ours🤦‍♀️

[@ScarFeiss]

Too compelling eh

[@NanonoShamillah]

This story is fantastic but I didn't find the ending 😢

[@jesteralfonso8409]

As a Parents it's very hard to to do right thing if you know your child is guilty of murder.

[@fishnchips6627]

So nice to see Lady Mary..

[@burtan2000]

8:27 the worst part is not about his rival assistant DA. The worst part is that a teen. Boy was murdered. The second worst part is that his son probably did it

[@normannorville1830]

True

[@Apricot90]

Is that a movie or why did I just watched 50 minutes of the entire story?

[@mrnopesaysnope]

same question. Probably in the future, all movies will be in this format.

[@donnadizucchero]

It's mini-series from Apple plus TV, 8 episodes of 45-65 running time each; based on the book by the same title by an American author and ex-lawyer Landay. He was offered to buy rights on multiple occasions,and he's chosen to sell the material to be made into series, not a fiction movie, because he saw it would give it more justice for its complexity and character development.

[@trisram]

We will never know who killed ben

[@Mynameislikebutton]

I like to guess off the title ima say this is “the good son “

[@ninajefferson4018]

What is it about people on tv always have the hardest most exúburant time telling the honest truth as if you'll implode or something.

[@Stifler-ov5qy]

The guy who the grandfather hired someone to kill and made to live a confession letter did it. Guys, don't forget that he deleted photographs of the dead kid days after he was killed. Everything that happened after is the misunderstanding of Jacobs mental health and mistakes a kid does during an investigation or trial like writing that story or being on social media. I mean, the kid did not even confess to his own mother when she tried to kill them both.... like come on his a kid, and i would definitely think even a psychopath would confess then.

[@brandonluu3835]

If you were stalking someone and they were killed, would you delete the photos you had of the person you stalked?

[@AnnLafemme]

Who the hell killed Ben! Lol

[@IamJustAli]

Derek did it because he had Ben's phone. He knew Ben often bullied Jacob and Jacob had a romantic interest in Sara, which irked Derek.

[@RouxEnYHepaticoJejunostomy]

But this doesn't explain the photos of Ben Patz had...also why was he so happy seeing Jacob being seen as the prime suspect...Also while deleting the photos of Ben, Patz was sad...Rang a bell? ​@@IamJustAli

[@juicebox7372]

​@@RouxEnYHepaticoJejunostomyJust cuz he's stalking him doesn't mean he killed him

[@bzh7648]

My guess is that Jacob is guilty, but there isn’t enough evidence. The parents need to get him into some therapy.

[@VanessaCurry711]

I have one child a son and cannot imagine going through this as a parent!!

[@brittbratt6128]

I feel like Jacob would have been a murderer, that just wasn’t the murder he committed. I definitely agree that Patz did it, Jacob witnessed it and became interested.

[@timothyedward2650]

As a parent, I would go through Hell and Back for my child, and I will always love them no matter their choices in life, I believe it was Derek

[@sonyame4113]

The butler did it! 🥴

[@sallymjmj750]

Captain Mustard in the library with the candlestick.

[@Wodenseyes]

Andy’s dad had O’Leary force Patz to write the letter. Jacob fully killed Ben. The kids a psycho

[@DesreLabuschagne]

What's the name of this movie/series

[@Here2Enjoy-b8z]

37:45 wasn't it a stolen car? What happened after that?

[@mannytwozero4449]

Please recap Stolen From The Suburbs next. It's a lifetime movie that stars Sydney Sweeney.

[@seanbrazell7095]

That ending SUCKED.

[@jazdj04]

I believe Jacob did it

[@Jetsfan0786]

How do you make a movie and not have the ending at least hinting at who really did it. J know the director that our would be a cool idea to leave it to the audience but he was wrong in doing so, should of at the end shown something that would of insinuated who the killer was

[@Andain_83]

@Jetsfan Absolutely agree with you there! To me, in not doing that, it almost let's all three of the suspects off the hook since everything could be deemed circumstantial at that point. As an audience trying to keep up with all the clues and breadcrumbs they toss us, to not even leave the bag which previously held said crumbs at SOMEBODY'S doorstep, is beyond frustrating! I don't want to just guess and/or speculate--that's rediculously pointless if I'm not given a reliable seed of fault from the dang writers themselves. Because only THEY know who the true killer/killers was! Ugh 🤨😒🤫

[@sallymjmj750]

Not every book or movie ends that way. Sometimes things are intentionally left vague, so the audience decides who they think the murderer was.

[@sallymjmj750]

Maybe it was Sarah in retaliation for the photo.

[@qnunyuh8417]

CRKT M16 -14zsf pretty good knife.

[@Caviar707]

He should've first called Tony Stark he smart

[@VenEm]

tony stank

[@Tootheless]

😂😂😂 bruh you funny ​@@VenEm

[@gameprey1777]

What in the Captain America is going on with Jacob...

[@yinkaoyekunle9533]

He could be a devoted cop, husband, and father all day

[@Inari368]

It's like that book, the perfect son by freida mcfadden

[@ronnin.1uke]

At first glance, Jacob is an ordinary teenager. But when he becomes the prime suspect in a gruesome crime that shakes the entire town, his family's life becomes a living hell.

[@Ksme2Kute]

I think he’s guilty

[@tiffybnTN]

Wow!!!!!

[@Memory_visit]

Also, dont they record the calls in the prison. what a terrible series.

[@sallymjmj750]

Which makes you think maybe the writer or AI was from a different country?

[@MrDotaleavers]

what is disappointing is not the ending, but realizing that this recap is an hour long... :(

[@sallymjmj750]

I kept confusing some of the characters and their names.

[@NyajuokGatwech3]

Jacob clearly did it

[@derier1000]

brother if a recap is 1 hour at one point do i just watch the movie ?

[@chaos-fk6fs]

its a series

[@derier1000]

@@chaos-fk6fs is it any good didnt watch the recap or the movie in the end :D

[@chaos-fk6fs]

@@derier1000 not really the wikipedia article is good enough if you ask me

[@tonydaysog9164]

Guilty? Of course .... Hollywood 😂

[@Kimmer-b7s]

I read the book this film is based upon some time ago and I don't believe that is how the book ended.

[@kalindisuchak5751]

So Mary divorced Henry eventually, moved to States - remarried 3rd time and is now raising Mathew's son. Henry prolly got the custody of his daughter 😂

[@swetarajput6319]

Who was texting Sarah.?

[@syfayre3957]

Wait so we will never know who the killer was? 😭😭 pain.

[@jodyjojo1381]

I think he did it, the boy, the boy did it

[@minasweey]

They never snitch on a crime why?

[@justokayemilay6029]

The story got a little thin when the new Year's Eve in Mexico situation happened. Perhaps an unnecessary way to add length? I really liked how the William storyline turned out. Epstein didn't self delete.

[@donnadizucchero]

It's in the book; and it goes to show how it finally broke mother's trust in Jacob's innocence. And further more, she'd keep being suspicious all her life when something like that happens again (and it will, someone always disappears, dies, etc.) going back to these days of horror and uncertainty in her mind. Crushed her soul.

[@sallymjmj750]

Who was Hope?

[@jangregorifamacion3423]

guilty without any doubt internet history, possible murder weapon, motive and genes

[@georgialenny6265]

You get to choose to either be an honest man or a good father. I am neither.

[@demishadevonyaanthony4694]

Jacob was guilty of witnessing the crime an not saying nun about it

[@lexaneli]

All I know i refuse to do prison time for a crime i didn't do. I would have been a wanted person while seeling asylum in Cuba

[@sallymjmj750]

You’re going to seek asylum in Communist Cuba, being a suspected murderer from the US? That’s not well thought out. You can’t just disappear in Cuba.

[@bloodlotus_]

imagine bullying from grave 😆

[@sallymjmj750]

That doesn’t smell right, that someone who is bullied would jump someone in a remote area. Wouldn’t it be more likely to confront someone as they are being bullied?

[@Faith-mj6rw]

So many secrets 🙄

[@Memory_visit]

Couldn’t they have chosen a better Sarah?

[@GyroPoodle]

That women, the omther, is a good actress. The amount of HATRED I developed for her character... the stupidity of her actions. I couldn't handle it anymore.

[@sophosbeasan1]

It is so obvious that Jacob is a psychopath. Literally crimes runs in his blood. A cold killer.

[@EzinwanneNnamdi-Duru]

Are you an idiot not all psychopaths are killers

[@cristinawilliams7870]

Movie title?

[@pocketlinttreasures33]

I beleive it's a TV show. It's called Defending Jacob

[@RomeTokyooneway]

MAy guess is Jacob was the one who killed Ben but for sure he will not come out of the coma.

[@sallymjmj750]

Kind of reminds me of what Teddy Daniels asks at the end of Shutter Island: "Which would be worse, to live as a monster or to die as a good man?” If the mom feels Jacob killed Ben, is she more comfortable with him being in a coma?

[@GoddessPower777]

he’s guilty

[@TayshawnTryston1605]

Captain America after leaving the Avengers

[@ricky9451]

Wahou He is Guilty

[@danielrivera1833]

Idk if the kid is guilty or not but the mom sure is ! Lol

[@yinkaoyekunle9533]

I didn't know Captain America had a TV show?! And his pops is J. Jonah Jameson?! What in the _'What if'_ is going on here?!

[@guenlaali001]

I don’t like watching movies that doesn’t end well

[@imbatman8472]

what a waste of time

[@waynejacksongalloway3768]

Good good Christians don’t act that way good people don’t act that way, so whom are we supposed to relate to in this situation?

[@JCJTC]

Absolute bobbins

[@dawgboyz24]

Jacob murdered Ben!!! Clearly his fathers influence and position were the only thing deeming Jacob innocent. $10,000 bond for a murder charge!!!! Outrageous!!! The father clearly held his suspicions ,Jacob could’ve been cleared by turning in his knife. Jacob, being the psychopath he is, did not deserve such a caring father.

[@MashaRistova]

You need to relax. Breathe. It’s just a movie. None of this actually happened.

[@julieoluna8887]

​@@MashaRistovaIt actually does happen.

[@dawgboyz24]

@@MashaRistova discussing the movie is part of watching movies, or discussing your own thought process and observations are banned ?

[@daughterofpb]

A truly caring father would want to keep his child from killing again and hand in the knife. The father was protecting himself and his career.

[@RouxEnYHepaticoJejunostomy]

​@@MashaRistovayou wish all this wouldn't happen... But there are far far worse cases happening

[@SpiritSoPoetic]

Too many ad interuptions

[@kkbyday520]

Sounds like a wasted time for the audience. I won't say wasted time, but just annoying. I guess the writers thought leaving the audience with No closure was groundbreaking. The Little Things did it well. Needed to take notes from movies/books like "Where the Crawdads Sing"

[@obinnaokpani1372]

I hate watching nonsense video the video doesn't make sense any parents that doesn't believe they kids didn't deserve to be a parents when I was small my parents never believe because I'm stubborn child but it doesn't mean I can lie to them they my parents and I won't lie to them

[@Meganthamac]

It was the evidence and the fact that he was unable to have empathy. Once the Dr told the parents, they doubted he was being honest.

[@rossmanlapig3883]

nahhh bad story lol

[@heavenlymilano]

Warning! Do not watch it's a waste of time since there is no clear ending!

[@commercevibe8473]

😭

[@nikkotigas7588]

Andy looks like Captain America and Lawyer looks like the one from Black Mirror Nosedive

[@erdakovaevgenia3431]

😂😢😮

[@Lele-pm1rt]

Please use a human voice. Interesting movies, terrible delivery.😢

[@katty63211]

That is a very stupid mother . What mother doesn't know her child . A mother always knows but this one was clueless. If i was the father i would have left her

[@damiondunn4663]

A lot of mothers know absolutely nothing about their kids especially when they have the " mothers always knows " mentality. Some mothers only see their children as accessories and couldn't care less about how their kid feels

[@thewrongshoes]

@@damiondunn4663So if I a mother doesnt want to see her kid is a murder makes her a bad mother lol 😂. You know must mothers don't want to see any bad in their children, right ?

[@damiondunn4663]

@@thewrongshoes your comment is pure nonsense maybe put the bottle down and type again

[@burtan2000]

But Patz had photos of the kid. He was shown to be quite suspicious. Captain America deserves a MUCH better wife. Shes not even that good looking.

[@Lilaah777]

😂😂😂

[@yinkaoyekunle9533]

Cap's got bigger problems... like having J. Jonah Jameson as a father _(he's a menace!)_