TehGM Scores: Unbound Determination (Ness vs Frisk)

[@SkyeHilda22]

IT NOW HAS AN ANIMATION kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqOUmmabot2lgc0

[@kamek145]

That fight was the best!!!

[@awesomaaa]

May I use for a speed paint?

[@trashandtreasure1541]

2:29 Couldn’t help yourself, could you?

[@kamek145]

No one can go *sans* the skeleton ;0

[@doctorxawesomestop-motion1234]

I haven't gotten to that part yet, but I'm gonna say... Megalovania?

[@Jean_Jacques148]

@@doctorxawesomestop-motion1234 wow really?

[@DTylerFultzVA]

"hi. this is my cameo. that's all. keep fightin', kid." -sans

[@romanoodle5436]

Also funny how this has 69 likes

[@ytho4428]

Base forms wise, Ness hands down. Magicant vs Determined though is a bit harder though. But I say Ness in the long run.

[@gachalifetoonstudios1377]

Yeah, in this case it's all dependent of how it's interpreted Magicant is a whole universe that ness absorbed while determination is powerful enough to tank blasts from gods like asriel Ness is stronger but frisk is durable It's a force that frisk can't compete to ness's strength while ness can't compete with frisk's ressurections (Just to keep in mind, frisk is pure pacifist so no it doesn't have universal strength just durability

[@ytho4428]

@@gachalifetoonstudios1377 ness has acasuality, so resets won't be a problem

[@gachalifetoonstudios1377]

Either way this is a very long fight that can last to near infinite time

[@ytho4428]

@@gachalifetoonstudios1377 fr

[@gachalifetoonstudios1377]

@@ytho4428 it's two immovable forces trying to push each other off the edge

[@ytho4428]

Wiz: Frisk's power and sheer determination put up an incredibly close fight, but Ness' power, speed, versatility, and haxxes put an end to this bout. Boomstick: Frisk got PK Rocked! Wiz: The winner is Ness!

[@kamek145]

Imagine Giygas and Flowey going at it

[@moderndayentertainer.9516]

Flowey can't be compared to giygas. Flowey would literally get recked.

[@moderndayentertainer.9516]

Why do people talk to kids like this?

[@moderndayentertainer.9516]

@i forget to add name You know what you said.

[@moderndayentertainer.9516]

@@dilltamacipher8374 Maybe. I however don't think asriel would be praying during a fight.

[@WrongJoke06]

(not trying to be rude btdubs) So your saying gygas can only be defeated by praying?

[@bkkawesome44]

4:20 Take a melody of loveee, oh loveee

[@captaindiabetes4004]

Hearing this music fills you with determination and overwhelming amount of nostalgia

[@melindabolding5601]

Zack Morris to be honest. Frisk wouldn’t even do that. Even genocide frisk. If we’re talking about genocide frisk. Why’d sans be there? Pacifist and Neutral wouldn’t hurt a monster for no reason.

[@melindabolding5601]

X Traveller but frisk is THAT kind.

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@melindabolding5601 yeah

[@fishyboi98]

I really hope you get the chance to feature on a DB track some day, you've got a really good for mind how to blend two soundtracks together and create a cinematic battle track out of it. Hopes and Dreams coming it felt a Frisk Come-Back moment, with the end after that leaving it ambiguous if Frisk won or if Ness was able to power through. It's genuinely some underrated stuff that you're doing here, keep it up!

[@fishyboi98]

I'd say, if there's one area for critique, it'd be mixing. Some of your more complicated tracks show this a bit better, but parts of the track sometimes get flooded out by others.

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@fishyboi98 yeah

[@alexbaribeault]

3:01 CHILLS, DUDE. Damn, I love this

[@DTylerFultzVA]

This is some serious 16-Bit Rock that sounds like Undertale and Earthbound's absolute finest, and I love it to death because of it.

[@agentglowstick8704]

The title of this track is brilliant.

[@quilavalover8232]

Personally, While most people are saying that there's no way to find a Winner, there IS a simple way to declare a Winner. Who would give up first? In a Fight where neither can die unless they themselves will it, and one of them could definitely do that. While Frisk has some incredible Abilities, feats, and possibly speed as an Advantage, Messed versatility, sheer power and magic, physical strength, and the ability to NOT be affected by Time makes Ness not only too strong, but too Unpredictable. Even the one soul ability Frisk can activate themselves gets countered by Nesses barriers. Plus, even Flowey said it himself, sometimes there's a person You just can't defeat, which is why sans constantly caused him to reset. The same is probably BOUND to happen here, Frisk might have no choice but to reset, and go back to the Underground, leaving Ness the winner.

[@pug8714]

Frisks chance to win to make ness to stop fighting. Which given that ness doesn't really kill people or animals instead taming them, frisks win con could be just convincing ness to give up and pacify the kind kid

[@MasuxAnderson]

This is a great ost, really captures the already amazing music from both games. That piano piece at 3:00 is so good. But as for the match up itself, given Undertales' respawn mechanics and lore, how does Frisk actually die here? I know Ness is hella powerful, but how can he actually finish the fight if Frisk is acknowledged as resetting? In fact, does Frisk even have any major feats or anything that can be scaled to? And what personality would Frisk even have, Pacifist or Genocide route? As far as just a fight of raw power, then Ness wins no doubt.

[@Joltscene]

If it was pacifist then they end up being friends because they really wouldn't fight about anything. If it was Genocide then ya they would fight. Frisk does actually have incredible feats they tanked hits from Asriel and Undyne, dodged lightning from Asriel, kept up with Sans and his barrage if attacks. And even taken out Omega Flowey and his 4th wall breaking ability. But yet I can argue that Ness faced worst

[@MasuxAnderson]

@@Joltscene Thanks for the response. It's been years since I played Undertale so it's not exactly fresh on the mind.

[@Joltscene]

@@MasuxAnderson no problem

[@themonsterking1538]

The touch of the universe prevents any time altering affects impacting Ness, such as when Giygas changed the timeline, and Ness was unaffected. Additionally, Ness can hypnotize Frisk also.

[@MasuxAnderson]

@@themonsterking1538 Interesting.

[@Devilwolf-jj5lq]

If you NESS with these two, you taking a huge FRISK

[@The_Gabe]

The best joke I've heared in a while 😀

[@leirbag1595]

This really sounds legit, not gonna lie. I love the 8-bit feel to it! Also, if this fight took place, it'd probably be Genocide!Frisk, for the sake of having them at their best, right?

[@FumanyuX]

Pacifist can literally say NO to death so.. not sure

[@levdaboi5587]

@@FumanyuX Maybe a combination of the 2?

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@levdaboi5587 nope

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@Alexander-gogolev2002 maybe

[@jirouetecia6799]

Incredibly good, makes me wish I had the money to commission something like this since there are 2 huge matchups I'd love to see have tracks

[@allgoodnamestaken6002]

same

[@thehouserbunch4818]

Me 2

[@lapaladejuan2833]

This is a banger! Great work as always ben. Who do you think would win this fight?

[@SkyeHilda22]

Ness ez

[@uwusixowo772]

@@SkyeHilda22 but frisk win lol

[@short.connor2319]

@@uwusixowo772 No

[@anthonyclements7124]

@@SkyeHilda22 Hey! I'm here! My request! Can you make a music based on the wally west vs Archie knuckles that was released on death battle fanon wiki Today? Please? It's called "Flash Force", the cover being the Master Emerald surrounded by a bright green aura, with the Flash lightning symbol down the middle. The song itself brings in elements of the CW Flash theme, Teen Titans theme (referencing Wally's time as Kid Flash), the Justice League Unlimited theme, and incorporates elements from both versions of Unknown from M.E and Solaris Phase 2 from Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2 And Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) Can you make the song? I'm link the wiki now. deathbattlefanon.fandom.com/wiki/Wally_West_vs_Archie_Knuckles?s=09 I'm see you in a next music. Bye!

[@ZippityZab]

How do you not have more subscribers!? This is awesome!

[@thebotbuilder]

Holy sh*t this song is awesome! Definitely one of your best I would say, also Ness FTW.

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

Yeah

[@trashbanielson]

Wow wasn’t expecting this match nice 👌

[@exxoloki8390]

A rivalry I want to see

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

Me too

[@championzelda7088]

Lovely😊. Great job hun

[@TheGrandbull]

Champion Zelda! ._________.

[@SkyeHilda22]

thanks!! Wanna be discord friends???

[@championzelda7088]

@@SkyeHilda22 Suree😊

[@championzelda7088]

@@TheGrandbull Is there an issue?

[@TheGrandbull]

Champion Zelda! Nah UwU

[@alexh7145]

Ness FTW

[@isabellethedoggo7884]

I personally really like this matchup! Although I have no idea who would win

[@ashuto2025]

@@merchantziro4285 If this battle ever happened they would probably consider frisk's savestate since it is canonically considered a ability of his(er) and is honestly one of the few of it's abilities that is actually consistent between all timelines, the problem here is that in my opinion neither of them can actually kill the other for good since Ness can't do anything about the save and im pretty sure that frisk doesn't even stand a chance to Ness in raw power.

[@RandoMothGal]

@@merchantziro4285 ah yes, the inmortal kids battle

[@runedoom]

​@@ashuto2025I'm pretty sure that determination from undertale is actually a reference to Ness' courage in Earthbound which allows him to do the same thing, so they might be the same but with different names. If that's the case, which it might not be, Ness' could override Frisk's savestate. Even if not, there is no way Frisk beats Ness.

[@katlynlazuli8954]

Ness smacks

[@Joltscene]

Ness could've won but if Frisk dies they can just go back to there previous save file and fight Ness with information on him while Ness is unaware of what Frisk can do while Frisk knows everything about Ness. Ya Frisk is gonna keep dying and dying and dying but Frisk will win eventually. If it's pacifist Frisk then they just become friends if it's Genocide or neural Frisk then Frisk wins but it's trial and error. Ness could be the winner if it wasn't for Frisk save file and Ness has nothing to counter that.

[@gumballviking9102]

He has traveled to other dimensions and since he's universal he could theoretically just travel to that plain and erase it.

[@dicksimmons3147]

I don’t think respawn mechanics should be aloud in a death battle

[@gumballviking9102]

@@dicksimmons3147 Under normal circumstances I agree, but with Undertale it's deeply rooted in the story's lore. So it serves a purpose and should be added in.

[@dicksimmons3147]

GumballViking but frisk doesn’t have many measurable feats that can scale up to ness

[@Joltscene]

@@gumballviking9102 ya but that happened with some help by doctor andonuts (don't know how to spell his name) and Ness also needed to travel with his soul being inside a Robot so I don't think Ness can't even find a way to even kill frisk because if he does Frisk save file still exist and if you wanna say Sans is Ness then still Sans never found a way to stop frisk from reloading the game or resetting the game. If Frisk didn't have that whole save file hack then Ness would've taken down Frisk but with the whole save file trick Frisk would come back on knowledge about Ness while ness doesn't even know they fought before.

[@TristanLackey]

Courage v.s. Determination

[@SomeWeeboLoser]

This is awesome.

[@gumballviking9102]

Toby Fox would be proud (About the music, not the fact that Frisk loses.)

[@Joltscene]

Did you forget about frisk respawn mechanic and since it's important to the lore of Undertale it makes sense to give frisk that ability

[@gumballviking9102]

@@Joltscene Nope. I'm well aware of it, but Ness has an answer to that with his interdimensional travel.

[@levdaboi5587]

@@dilltamacipher8374 And Asriel has the infinite attack stats soo yeah.. Frisk basically took infinity like a champ

[@WrongJoke06]

@@levdaboi5587 if asriel ACTUALLY had infinite stats, frisk would've been dead as soon as they took one hit

[@WrongJoke06]

@@levdaboi5587 also your using a "No Limits Falacy"

[@MrLimboRL]

Ness: Haha! Almost died but I killed the kid! Phew! *But it refused* Ness: Huh...guess I’ll die

[@Wind-yb7qm]

Ness is literally Megaversal and has Fate Manipulation passive so Frisk is screwed.

[@MrLimboRL]

@@Wind-yb7qmthe fuck is megaversal?

[@Wind-yb7qm]

@@MrLimboRL Forget it, it was my way of extending Multi+ lmao. still, Ness is 5-D/6-D/7-D.

[@feli4061]

Determination vs Bravery

[@rodrickgoldberg2324]

That would actually be kind of funny if we see Ness’ soul and it’s orange because of his courage.

[@feli4061]

@@alexsonicelcaballeromegave4524 Bravery FTW!

[@katlynlazuli8954]

Julián González lol ness can defeat giygas and the best frisk can do is beat omega flowey

[@katlynlazuli8954]

Julián González so did frisk. And plus Giygas is much more powerful than even Asriel

[@katlynlazuli8954]

Julián González so👏did👏👏Frisk. Say it with me. Both needed help to defeat Universe busters. Giygas is thousands of times more powerful than Asriel

[@hyperstarman1288]

:)

[@brandonwong8614]

The only way this would work if it's Neutral Frisk or Bloodlusted Pacifist Frisk. Cause nonBloodlusted Pacifist Frisk wouldn't kill. And Genocide Frisk is essentially Chara.

[@Omega7321]

This is 🔥🔥🔥 def gotta hit you up for some future stuff! 👀

[@redcast3041]

i see ness winning this

[@neckbeardneet]

Is that K Rools theme in the beginning?

[@Stillhandling2976]

Ness ftw

[@Manuel-tb3ew]

I want Sa- I mean Ness to lose. *I’ve been PK-fired too many times.*

[@MasuxAnderson]

I feel ya man. But personally, I've had it worse with Young Link.

[@thebotbuilder]

*Bad memories of fighting Ness players online coming back!*

[@TheGrandbull]

TheBotBuilder pk fire

[@thebotbuilder]

@@TheGrandbull oh God!

[@SomeWeeboLoser]

I can't relate because I don't have Smash Ultimate.

[@laweacuantica7241]

Ness claps

[@uwusixowo772]

WATCH THE VİDEO FRİSK WİNNER

[@laweacuantica7241]

@@uwusixowo772 He...didn't win, he just spared Ness, and the animation has no resarch

[@mega77mix67]

​@@uwusixowo772 ?????

[@NohanZilla]

Batter(OFF) vs Frisk?

[@zalgo62]

No

[@zalgo62]

No

[@gregger_mcgregger]

YES.

[@helton1812]

Frisk curbstomps tbh

[@cargorising8655]

Nice

[@MultiMario2306]

Nice song but this isn’t Super Sons

[@TheGrandbull]

WHERES SUPER SONS REMAKE

[@exxoloki8390]

I already guessed that ness wins

[@TheGrandbull]

Frisk. Fucking. Dies. Like. Holy. Shit. Its. Not. Funny. Didnt. Laugh

[@waluigi9901]

Super Sons 2 when?

[@SomeWeeboLoser]

When he feels like doing it.

[@championzelda7088]

@@SomeWeeboLoser Thank you

[@SomeWeeboLoser]

@@championzelda7088 your welcome

[@hughmann8862]

THIS IS SO WEEEEEEEEEEEEIRD BLACK MAN, WOMAN GET IN HERE GET IN COSTUME

[@TheAwesomeRacoon]

I SPOTTED AN IRREGULARITY

[@lukespotobot8443]

👍 nice. P.S. SUPER SONS REMAKE!

[@tonk4601]

I don't really want either of them to win. I like both ness and frisk

[@thesweetspot3044]

Boomstick: I guess you can say Frisk was "determinated" to be the winner Wiz: the winner is Frisk the human

[@uwusixowo772]

@@villager9874 ness WİLL never win CUZ frisk have determınation and ness have bravey lol determınation is strongest soul you SEE frisk winner

[@Metawire61]

@@uwusixowo772 that doesn't prove shit. Detrmination is the strongest soul, yes, but ness is outside of the undertale universe (for all we know. He could be part of it but for now it's only theories) so he doesn't care about if his soul is a weaker type than frisk's.

[@zalgo62]

Make that blue rat fight the scarlet king

[@maijnanimations7525]

Frisk FTW. Ness has no way to put down him/her for good.

[@gumballviking9102]

Ness has travelled to other dimensions before with his soul intact. Now take an opponent who targets the soul and yanks it out of their body if needed. Congrats, nothing is stopping him from destroying the save file.

[@Joltscene]

@@gumballviking9102 He has no way of destroying the save file since he has no time abilities or fourth wall breaking abilities

[@themonsterking1538]

@@Joltscene The SAVE file cannot affect Ness. The touch of the universe grants Ness fate hax, and he was unaffected by Giygas's attempts to change the timeline. Ness could also just hypnotize Frisk

[@lordtyler4613]

@@themonsterking1538 plus ness has fought 5th dimensional giygas so he can easily keep up

[@lordtyler4613]

@@villager9874 exactly

[@noelandaigisandmu1240]

Ness ftw

[@StatikandSheepish]

Ness FTW