TEKKEN 8 Coaching Series | How To Play & Defeat Dragunov

[@shiestyopp3741]

0:00 - Introduction to playing Dragunov 0:08 - Discussing Dragunov's design and appeal 0:40 - Highlighting Dragunov's buffs and strengths 1:06 - Practice mode settings and hitbox discussion 2:03 - Improvements in Dragunov's wall combo 2:17 - Beginning of coaching series on playing Dragunov 2:50 - Tips for fighting against Dragunov 3:57 - Emphasizing the importance of sidestepping 4:27 - Strategies for dealing with Dragunov's pressure 5:01 - Utilizing Dragunov's throw game 6:04 - Discussing pressure tools and heat mechanics 7:01 - The importance of a varied move set 8:09 - Recommended combo practice 9:10 - Highlighting Dragunov's "electric" attack 11:15 - Demonstrating a staple combo 12:23 - Starting ranked matches with Dragunov 13:11 - Analysis of Dragunov's gameplay in a match 15:06 - Discussing opponent's adaptation to Dragunov's play 17:07 - Further insights into playing against Dragunov 18:21 - Differentiating character matchup strategies 19:02 - Additional tips on facing Dragunov 20:08 - Transition to another match 21:00 - Reflections on playing Dragunov in ranked 22:08 - Analyzing a Dragunov mirror match 23:13 - Exploring Dragunov's string effectiveness 24:07 - Discussing Dragunov's wall game and throw options 25:12 - Strategy and gameplay continuation 26:55 - Match analysis and strategy discussion 28:04 - Demonstrating effective use of Dragunov's moves 29:03 - Concluding thoughts on match strategy 30:11 - Further gameplay tips and match analysis 31:13 - Decision to change matchmaking approach 32:03 - Match against a Brian player 33:05 - Analyzing gameplay tactics and opponent's strategy 34:11 - Discussing character-specific gameplay styles 35:25 - Match against a Yoshimitsu player 36:17 - Challenges of playing against Yoshimitsu 37:09 - Reflections on Yoshimitsu's unique gameplay mechanics 38:03 - Continuation of match against Yoshimitsu 39:03 - Further insights into dealing with Yoshimitsu 40:08 - Conclusion of Yoshimitsu match analysis 41:13 - Match against a Lee player 42:01 - Discussing Jin's gameplay changes 42:55 - Gameplay analysis against Lee 44:25 - Further discussion on matchup strategies 45:00 - Reviewing the match against Lee 46:40 - Preparing for another match 47:02 - Match against a Shaheen player 47:48 - Analyzing Dragunov's string use in the match 48:56 - Reflections on learning from match experiences 49:50 - Match against a Paul player 50:54 - Discussing learning opportunities in matches 51:42 - Additional gameplay analysis against Paul 53:03 - Concluding thoughts on match against Paul 53:35 - Match against a Jack player 54:18 - Gameplay strategy and analysis 55:05 - Discussing character strengths and matchup knowledge 56:05 - Concluding Jack match analysis 57:00 - Approaching a promo match 57:50 - Match against a Jun player 58:53 - Analyzing Jun's gameplay challenges 59:50 - Continuation of match against Jun 1:01:15 - Final thoughts on Jun match and promotion 1:03:55 - Reflecting on effective gameplay strategies 1:04:01 - Concluding the coaching series

[@YURR19]

Ty sir

[@StayFr0sty]

this needs to be pinned, thank you

[@_Deez]

Goddamn you went hard I salute you sir 🫡

[@SoySelu]

Pin this guy he truly deserve

[@asabeastfrommiddleeast42]

I don’t know you but I love you

[@streetfighte6]

I am a new comer to tekken 8 from sf6. I select dragunov 1 week ago with no reason except he looks like a lunatic. Have been losing for a week, now I am start winning. I have not seen many dragunoc guide online .I have to look up some dragunov guide from tekken 7 .I appreciate so much you are doing this for us.

[@BenBenningt0n]

Well said, streetfighte6…. Lmfao

[@OK-JAI]

@@BenBenningt0nwhat’s up with sf6? 🤔 Nvm I see his name 😂

[@JKC4o9]

He was my first choice in tekken 7 bc knee recommended him for new players. Know I have experience I feel I can play a mishima like I wanted

[@petergoodspieces130]

He is a great masher dont worry His string will carry you very far And good plus frames

[@modifidious7171]

Dragunov is one of the best characters in the game. You made a great choice. He's not flashy, just brutally efficient. I love playing as him.

[@mustachman5]

10:49 not sure if you know this, but u can pause matching in the settings for ranked queue practice mode xD ♥

[@WafflesOWNz]

Good lord this was bugging me.

[@kakimotoK20]

how? I looked last night and didn't see a way

[@SkipratTTV]

In the pause menu, go under matchmaking settings, then change from Ranked or Quick Match to Off@@kakimotoK20

[@aavavertu229]

Options has a matchmaking standby setting

[@kakimotoK20]

@@aavavertu229 thanks ya I found it tonight, just knowing it was there was enough to look again

[@AngriestPeanut]

Didn’t know about the replay features of this game until you mentioned it near the end of the video, that alone convinced me to get 8 as my next game. Thanks for being so in depth yet casual with your videos, keep up the good work man

[@patstar3808]

"at this range step left *bam*. He did a homing move." Classic :D

[@MokBn11]

“He actually applied defense, I just pressed buttons” pretty much sums up my Tekken experience 😂

[@_Jay_Maker_]

Hell yeah, Sir Gay! Aris made me basically love this guy, so it's pretty hype to see you doing a rundown on him. I love how basic Soul Calibur movement strats just beat his opening game entirely. It feels nice to have invested so much time into a dead game. I'm laughing, but also crying.

[@AFrogNamedAtlas]

mainman getting mixed by a special style player was so funny. love the coaching series looking forward to more

[@gaberyan6283]

Literally been one tricking drag since tekken 7 got the game 3 days ago and have been playing him non stop I legit didn't even know you could sneak into the axe kick or that the deep crouch low was a mixup for a mid hit, I have been playing without either of those this entire time, currently at destroyer rank thank you for showing me that as well as the electric combo since i've been using a pretty bummy 3 2 into down 3 2 1+2 into stomp whenever I get it since I assumed it consumed the bound state as a property of the move landing, super helpful info. Something to note with the back 4 2 1 you can punish jab check attempts with your back 2, 4 sabaki on read and it leads into 3 , 2 , 1+2 into stomp for a nice 50+ damage punish if you feel like being extra evil.

[@jonwhite549]

bro is hitting the nail on the head with these uploads.

[@golden-sun]

Dragunov is my first tekken main. Never had one in 7. He's so fun in this game

[@jays.6843]

You and 80% of the people online tbh

[@golden-sun]

@@jays.6843 that's crazy too cause usually the characters I pick in games aren't popular. I think I'll stick with him even if and when he ends up weak, I love his style

[@unsaintlyONE]

Never imagined I'd pop off for a duck like that. We all need to be more like the gigachad Paul, Mr. Blade, I salute you.

[@The_Humble_Hurricane]

Man I LOVE the jukebox options. 🙌🏿💯

[@bii_gii]

love all the match up content. tekken finally clicked with me recently so now the hard part of learning match ups is on the table. this helps a lot thank ya

[@myloemike]

This is an incredible guide displaying strong ways to abuse Dragunov’s power. Thanks for making this video! Learn all your strings and when to apply them, d2 is your go-to low, don’t snake edge for cheese bc he has enough frame advantage and strong songs to work with without it, and sneak 4 abuse. I like it! Definitely gonna try employing this as a new Dragunov player!!

[@NS-kc3hk]

A whole 1 hour video and not a single hatchet kick... Even in situations where it would certainly kill... I'm impressed

[@h0td0g]

This series is so useful for below average players like me. Allows me to understand why I lose to mashers and why understanding matches ups is so important.

[@theborjota]

This video is awesome mainman, I'm learning Dragunov and this is exactly what I needed.

[@dariussonofjazzlin7433]

I love how you can always tell how happy Dragunov is to be here. ❤

[@GuyWithZen459]

As a Dragunov Main I love his new moves and how well they integrate into combos Hes just really fun and i love that

[@gollder_54]

enjoy while it lasts LUL nerfs are coming for sure

[@GuyWithZen459]

@@gollder_54 Who cares I'll still play him

[@qerzuk]

@@GuyWithZen459 they probably only nerf his wall damage

[@aidee1920]

@@gollder_54 Didn't stop us from still playing him in T7.

[@RuteFernandes-qs6pc]

@@gollder_54 I hope they are so people can't stop getting mad at being bad at the game and blaming the characters. I've stopped using wr2 and qcf4 all together and people still plug when getting outplayed. I'll keep playing him for sure, he's the most fun character to play right now second only to Steve.

[@tylermings9276]

really enjoyed this video, would love to see this be a series!

[@babyjoker997]

I put about 300 hours into T7 drag and began T8 as only xiaoyu, I’m looking forward to practicing him soon and this was really informative, thanks

[@nhanle9218]

I honestly learned soo much techs from you brother !❤ much love ! Keep up THE AMAZING WORK .

[@snaxmiller]

Love the vid man. I've been hungry for some Bryan content. Bryan seems kinda rare out in the wild. I chose him because he looks awesome but he's proving to be a challenge.

[@HoopLists]

The Guide we, Dragunov scrubs, have been waiting for. Thank you TMMSwe! ♥️

[@haroldharris5417]

For more wall travel and more damage on your staple combo instead of sneak bound 2 after fcdf1,2 do fcdf1,2 sneak crouch cancel 3,1 sneak bound 2 run up df3+4 etc but as always great video mmswe

[@IWantToStayAtYourHouse]

yeah but thats pretty hard toi do pretty consistently. I only get sneak cancel like one tenth of the time

[@Stoun1we]

Mainman, i've been waiting tekken 8 lei wu long 8 minute guide. I am counting on you.

[@RationalToilets12]

He isn't even in the game

[@cypi6210]

Dragunov is an awesome character

[@ericpontarelli1690]

I pray you do more of these as they are a very informative approach to a character guide, if youre considering more, please do paul, watching your gameplay and 8 min guide was incredibly helpful but i have issues replicating some of your wall combos and combo decision making process with the character

[@terrelldavis8282]

I just started learning drag only thing i know is his combos… really thankful for this guide cause man i be losing so many games

[@junkbuster2521]

Already the best dragunov guide out. Thanks SWE

[@xxmlgtwinkiegamerxx7916]

I'm only in warrior rank right now, but I've only seen one Dragunov, but the one I found absolutely stomped me. I chalk it up to being a noob but I definitely think Dragunov is super strong

[@luthermanhole5008]

it was probably me

[@kato093]

Sorry to everyone I meet up to warrior rank (for some reason everyone is assailant?). I'm still training and never played ranked yet so I'm a beginner. I don't play seriously against players much worse than me, I try to teach them how to deal with stuff

[@manjiookami7962]

I'm also on yellow ranks currently and I fought a few Dragu already, though most of them were not low rank players knowledge-wise. I think they were at least red-purples in T7. And also Dragu in T8 vrvr strong, yeah.

[@silvangold007]

So strong! I've only seen one and apparently I wasn't even allowed to jab. Gotta go back and watch the replay. And I'm gonna learn him to help me fight against him

[@jays.6843]

Drag is kind of pushing S tier at the moment. I wouldn't call him BROKEN, but he's simultaneously very easy to play and just has good buttons. Plus the changes to running attacks mad his fff+2, which was already one of the best moves in Tekken 7, even better.

[@monkeplaysgames7049]

glad im not the only one using Your Sunset from tag 2 as my menu themes lol

[@GalacticFGC]

Yessir!!!

[@lusormuchacho894]

before watching the video, I gotta agree on the design part, the OG drip is so f*cking good, its the reason why I started playing the character in the first place

[@charmster22]

Best T8 Dragunov guide! Thanks TMMS!

[@AB-xh8hi]

great series!! really looking forward for a steve episode, since his gameplan is so difficult!

[@eddieherrera5665]

Definitely taking that combo at 21:20 with the quarter circle f1 😂🤘🏼🤘🏼 his new wall splat combo is the best thing

[@BlankJustCasual]

From a 17dmg Wall Combo into a MILLION dmg Wall Combo, well deserved

[@justinr.116]

Wow I just took a break from ranked because of a dragonov and lo and behold here's your video ❤️

[@FreeMovies01]

I just fought and lost to 8 dragonovs in a row

[@Eskolol]

Thanks to T8 replay mode and the function to actually take control, I actually got a game against a strong dragunov today lmao :D

[@MrSOOPERcooper]

Thank you for pointing out that cocked hammer combo! Thing does massive damage + wall carry. Cocked hammer itself is crazy undervalued Edit: Also, counterhit d2 gives you a free throw attempt

[@eggcellentegg2817]

Would love to see one on hwaorang next! Thank you for the content

[@s.b.e._9692]

You can turn off search in warm up area. It's gonna help introduce character and you can turn it back on after that

[@Tuxedosnake00]

I would love to have this kind of guide for my mains.

[@gibriss2533]

Could you do a Claudio guide? Please :( im learning him and I always use your guides and watch your videos to learn my combos. Good job as always ❤

[@falcaotrma6765]

I really appreciate your videos MMS I really learn a lot from you thank you and I one question...are you going to make a coaching series for every character?

[@zmanrko12]

I stared to realize drags weaknesses when I got from yellow to orange ranks. Bro I was getting stepped and checked often lol

[@snorlaxRMO]

Great video. Dragunov is awesome!

[@xeio1122]

From my experience, using Dragunov's crazy pressure and mix-ups can have some people hesitating for way too long. Long enough you can cancel 'Feint and Catch' and transition into his hellsweep (or the feint if you've conditioned them to block the hellsweep). It doesn't work on everyone, especially those who realize what's going on.

[@yerayarce9045]

I wish one episode for allí character, good video and good job.

[@kdaristotle9529]

Aye, video for arguably the second best character in the game. Im digging it

[@FreeMovies01]

Who's the best

[@kdaristotle9529]

@FreeMovies01 my eyes, Jun. But not as much as people would say. Drag is an animal but Jun is an absolute animal

[@popelipo6281]

Please when going over combos have the actual combo route visible somewhere on the screen to make it easier to see whats actually being used.

[@howibleed8479]

I love the coaching series-can you do 1 for paul-i think alot of people will get alot out of it! -thanks main man

[@snobbyg5002]

Hey big thanks for the awsome vid could you also do a combo guide for dragunov i am new to tekken and have learned alot from your vids keep up the great work

[@kamilmirza973]

" We dont use Snake Edge after green ranks its useless ", " Eats 2 Snake Edges " 😂😂

[@odd02]

4:48 here's right. Most people on ladder dont really side step me. Usually when my opps side step it changes my game plan for sure.

[@knox7945]

Man, I want to play Drag. This is gonna help me

[@khudaidadkhan2197]

this would be a great series ...do the paul one next ...

[@micahflanders6789]

He already did a series like this for Tekken 7, so it’s nice to see he’s doing them for 8 too.

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

I needed this video, just got to vanquisher but my dragunov still aint good, still havent figured out a solid gameplan, keep forgetting my inputs and havent optimised combos

[@Dragonslayer-cz5rb]

Hearing this man say that Bryan players are usually stronger than their rank is a validation I didn't know I needed to hear

[@niko-zx1ku]

You can neither block nor attack against Yoshimitsu, but there is one perfect counter. You can sidestep the whole matchup and punish with ALT+F4, you need to react to him appearing in loading screen. Nah just joking, don't skip matchups and you will learn faster.

[@thatredcomet]

23:44 now I know I'm not the only one that has this bug with Dragunov, when you try to input df1 you get a down jab instead. This is a big problem honestly

[@IWantToStayAtYourHouse]

or you just misinputted?

[@thatredcomet]

@@IWantToStayAtYourHouse Absolutely not, I never had this issue in T7. I noticed this problem as soon as I started to play T8

[@hasanali5300]

You're the best coach 💙 ❤️, please do king next and how to counter him, low ranks is disgusting now with so many king spammers

[@rudester353]

Thanks mainman dragunov has been annoying online bro. With your tips they are now being faced with some difficulties 🤣🤣🤣

[@The-Honored-One]

Can anyone explain how he does the (what I assume is 1 - qcf4) at 17:46 quickly? When I tried to lab this "easy pressure" it seemed that different moves came out.

[@rttrtt1374]

that string has a crouch dash cancel so hes only holding df and mashing 4 - after the 2 hit combo

[@ocampoarnulfo602]

The one thing TMM missed was that CH1 on B4,2,1 is -14 so you can get B4,3 guaranteed or continue B4,2,1 presure

[@ThomasLund-w3c]

47:11 he mentions it but says it isn’t guaranteed

[@ocampoarnulfo602]

@user-fl7um3iu5i that's because he doesn't know b4,3 is 14f now and ch leaves them at -14.

[@deanradley65]

June 2024 here, I’m seeing Bryan’s do snake edges in blue ranks.

[@WafflesOWNz]

Just a reminder that you can pause matchmaking at any point if you really wanna lab something 👍

[@edsflowrider6872]

Drag was my first loss. Broke my 33 win streak. His pressure seemed much stronger than it used to be

[@guyguy7002]

Drag is prolly the strongest character in the game behind Devil Jin...insane pressure and options

[@kato093]

​@@guyguy7002no he is not 😂 He is good but far from victor, Reina, azucena, jun, Jin and jack. but 100% top 10 at least.

[@manjiookami7962]

​@@kato093Reina is strong but she smol and has worse lows and weaker throw game. Also her pressure is pretty basic in comparison to Dragu's "GGs shake my hand" combo filler as a pressure tool. About others I agree.

[@kato093]

@@manjiookami7962 her lows are not bad and she doesn't need lows with how much she can spam + chip damage. If she had a good low she would be top 1 on a tier of her own. Remember that she is a new character and her potential isn't shown yet and she already is that strong.

[@manjiookami7962]

@@kato093 her actually good lows are locked behind stances, not like I'm complaining though. I like that she's weak in this part. Hellsweep is hellsweep, so it's whatever. Is she really can spam though? Either I faced mostly smurfs or players are just very patient. And I'm talking about low ranks on which I'm currently. People blocked her more than Kazuya and I whiff moves more often, cause she smol and I'm confused at her reach abilities. Strong char still, not denying, just think that people tend to put her like a beginner friendly when she's not tbh.

[@TREALxx]

Yea I’m glad i picked draganov on t7when t8 trailer dropped Jesus, so cool

[@sirnotawholelot7650]

I guess I was lucky to run into TheMainMan when he was playing Lee and not Dragunov. I managed to take a round... But learning where to duck or step is very difficult for a new player in a game with so many characters with such diverse movesets.

[@sushislash2728]

you can sneak cancel ↘️1-4 into 3-1 sneak 2 for even more wall carry

[@ProjectMysticApostolate]

I hope they bring back his manual tackle button.

[@8minato]

Bro I really needed this idk how to play against.

[@jacksypher3403]

Goes from green ranks to Vanquisher in less than an hour. Fuckin god

[@hnz_lallo]

15:40 thus high difficulty GOATED

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

Also i just LOVE the toxic TMM twitch chat EVERY TIME "hOw iS tHiS gUy aT tHiS rAnK" literally EVERY FIGHt

[@zmanrko12]

30:18 For the life of me don't understand how to do sneak into a rising move. I do this on accident sometimes and this isn't explained anywhere

[@IWantToStayAtYourHouse]

I think you press up to cancel the sneak

[@zmanrko12]

@IWantToStayAtYourHouse but doesn't it put you standing? I use a sneak cancel in my staple but puts me standing. I'll have to do more testing to understand it

[@rovdyret-bbox2640]

Let me know if you find a consistent way of doing it because im also a bit confused as to how while standing moves work after sneak@@zmanrko12

[@Euro.Patriot]

I just saw a tier list with Dragunov at #2.

[@TrustNx7]

I'd love to see some king coaching some time soon. Great video on these individual characters.

[@DanteHikato]

24:00 Absolutely no way mainmanswe Has this reaction for dragunov but then when jin has anything he freaks out

[@callanharvey6264]

Dragu went from shit in T7 to at least high tier in t8 Jin went from one of the best characters in t7 to probably the best character in t8 while also becoming much easier.

[@DanteHikato]

@callanharvey6264 you guys extreme exaggeration of jin is incredible. Why do you think the best jin main in the world dropped jin. Cherry berry mango and chikurin both dropped the supposed "top tier"

[@callanharvey6264]

@@DanteHikato Jin player tries not to downplay Jin challenge (difficulty life-threatening)

[@DanteHikato]

@@callanharvey6264 why did the best jin mains all drop him in tekken 7? Why was jin rarely in a top 8? Why was jin one of the least used characters in tekken 7 🤔 Yall listen to main man swe too much and don't care about statistics

[@kakimotoK20]

I haven't ran into that many dragunov's in America 1, not as many as I expected

[@SolidSantanero]

Jun has the best wall combo lol.

[@drchastr208]

34:27 sometimes I use snake edge with Asuka cause with her it is a mind game because I can cancel mid animation to a while standing mid

[@glaiveashwood8532]

Bring back the Tekken 3 Yoshi look please.

[@SaastaTV]

you can get nice damage from qcf+1 with qcf+1, df3+4, qcf3+4, 4,4 FC df1,4,2 dash, 3,1,df1+2(83dmg), from qcf+2 with qcf+2 , df3+4, qcf3+4, 4,4 FC df1,4,2 dash, 3,1,df2 (87dmg) from db3 you can do also do db3, df3+4, qcf3+4, 4,4 FC df1,4,1+2 (73dmg)

[@kizumishima]

Do you think you can do some match review from viewers? It can help people know what theyre doing wrong

[@fugacity5660]

Thank u for the nice video 👍🏼

[@dsmyo]

Funny tip ( pause ) if you feel like someone is gonna go for a low, they probably are

[@eBaggy7]

The combo that he starts attempting at @10:00 no longer connects at 4, 4. At least not with the average to small characters. It still lands consistently with large characters. Anyone else have this problem?

[@BloodyBulletShellz]

I was oneof the scrubs getting wrecked by dragunov and after this video I destroyed a dragunov player so hard they rage quit.

[@przemysawmaecki9958]

Hi TMM, I played with You today and You crushed my Paul. I have already knew I don't know mechanics in T8 well, but I played from 2 weeks only. Btw I played on Xbox pad and for me it's difficult. It make me strange things, because pad is not precise enough, at least for me.p.s. I have problem with connection to server on XSX, do You have similar issues than I have? Have a great day.

[@Werdumed]

Bodied or not, fucking chad Paul rematching and trying his options, can guarantee he labs that

[@JumpRecapped]

but the problem is, some good players can do qcf attacks almost instantly. like out of nothing the suddenly do qcf 4. and some more than good players can do wr2 almost instantly. Like doing wr2 in a point blank.

[@zierka13]

That Paul player will hit tekken god. He actually took the time to learn after getting bodied by that one string. The rest of them failed to see the value of learning from their mistakes.

[@MrMagic159]

Lol i cant figure out why everyone eats b421. I guess it helps that you can frame trap with it on hit and block.

[@Aoki3997]

Losing is important to learn the match up. I’ve been stomped by sooo many Drugenovs to where I now at least get 1 round on them, which is a small victory il take. Kings and Kumas tho do give me a hard time still haha

[@Ryan-gh4iz]

This 8 minute guide went over a bit

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Dragunov is so oppressive in T8, because he’s releasing all of his anger for being trash in T7.

[@brycecoyle7288]

Can you do a video like this for jun? It seems like all of her strings can be delayed and it’s hard for me to tell when it’s my turn. This helped me a lot with drag for awhile my path to victory was just out poking them but now I play a lot more relaxed

[@HotsumaSadamoto]

Its always juns turn