Tekken's weirdly ambitious beat-em-up spinoff | minimme

[@minimme]

hi everyone thank u for watching :) ) if you want some other vids to check out: rise to honour used a similar control scheme kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4OqgqCegrColbc resident evil gaiden is an ambitious and interesting resi spinoff for the GBC also set on a cruise ship kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKWXfKGDpKh8ppo

[@davidthorson2036]

I brought this game up in the comments of your Rise to Honor video.

[@dietman]

Please do Jackie chan stunmaster!!!

[@birthdefectthehedgehog3461]

0:07 dude, shaolin monks aint that bad, from what I have heard

[@joshuataylor7443]

How does just Nina make a better title, that doesn't spell reopen either.

[@joshuataylor7443]

I mean Tekken my bad.

[@emdotrod]

I wish you can talk about The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer, the game that supposed to be the sequel to The Incredibles film before The Incredibles 2 happened.

[@Larry]

@@HOTD108_ Well the first ten minutes of Incredibles 2 is about the underminer!

[@ShinoSarna]

You might not know, but Rise of the Underminer spins off into its own alternate canon - It's followed by series of comic books written by acclaimed writer of e.g. Kingdom Come, Mark Waid. The comic is really good, but it ends on a cliffhanger due to cancelation of tthe series.

[@gracekim1998]

Mr. Boomer I don’t believe you

[@gracekim1998]

Larry Bundy Jr exactly

[@gracekim1998]

shinobody oh

[@madpandahat]

Minime: "I didn't like this game, I don't recommend it. But I did like this game"

[@handsomebrick]

"Although I didn't enjoy this game, I did get a small amount of enjoyment from it, quite a bit in fact"

[@fauzanramadhan9046]

Viewers: *Visible confusion

[@KittensAreDope]

This is honestly why I love most of his videos, like it sounds dumb when you think about it but you get what he means. I appreciate his ability to dig around in random forgotten and often not so good games and seem like he legitimately enjoys doing it. Nice break from the hyper cynicism of most game review/essay stuff. Just a dude playin games

[@misterlisterthesisterfaste8653]

Minimme is my favorite tsundere character

[@planescaped]

This game wasn't for me, but turns out, this game was made just for people like me!

[@Noisyboy850]

I'm starting to think he's photoshopping his face into game covers

[@thel1355]

Really? I don’t see it.

[@walkernel]

Nah they just didn’t have that good graphics back then

[@handsomebrick]

I agree, look at his thumbnail for the Simpsons Game, something is seriously off about Homer's eyes.

[@blackknight9157]

Lies. I don't see it.

[@tfwthelsdkicksin6083]

Stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking. These are all the original covers.

[@The13thElysium]

I am totally biased but I LOVE Death By Degrees and I'm very glad to see someone actually explore the game in depth! It is undoubtedly flawed, but the ambition and great ideas really do kick the ass or my other fighting game spin offs! :D

[@JunKazamaFan]

Ditto. You can really see all the effort that went into making this spin-off, and there's plenty of nice Tekken related Easter eggs scattered about. The graphics and cutscenes all have held up really well, too. Plus, Nina's Rogues Gallery of Villains all leave a lasting impression, especially villainess Lana Lei. Last, but not least, Nina got her iconic voice actress here, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn.

[@handsomebrick]

Interesting how this game came out shortly after Lifeline, another PS2 game with arcane controls, a mix of fighting and puzzling, and a blond action girl protagonist uncovering some kind of conspiracy with scientists and soldiers and a superweapon. Actually this mostly describes a lot of games.

[@v-trigger6137]

Lifeline had a very weird concept. half of the mechanics works enterly by a microphone. you need to command the on screen characters lol seriously I miss the ps2 era, that era was refreshing. developers were always making something weird yet ambitious project. nowadays everyone just makes the same shit over and over again

[@handsomebrick]

@@v-trigger6137 Nothing was weirder or more ambitious than 90s PC games.

[@MidnightGear1]

Jerma introduced me to this game and its amazing

[@ryujijitei]

"Bark like a dog."

[@MidnightGear1]

@@ryujijitei do a sexy pose

[@bezo98]

Not sure if someone else has said this, but that 'take an item into a hot and then cold room' is ripped straight from the first Metal Gear Solid.

[@alephnole7009]

A lot of this reminds me of metal gear. The Cypher drone, the bikini cartwheels. Sword combat that is very similar to mgs2. This is basically metal gear solid 2 with a female protagonist and a mediocre plot.

[@joseaca1010]

technically it ripped Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, MGS just reused the puzzle

[@jasonmendoza5660]

I have owned this game for 10 years and I never knew it was a Tekken spinoff until just now.

[@qwertyzxcvbn3174]

It literally says Tekken on the main menu bruh

[@lylethedemon]

Damn rip

[@Gyrbae]

Really? The title "Tekken's Nina Williams" didn't tip you off that this might have something to do with Tekken?

[@TheDerpOnline]

Liar

[@seannborba8416]

You're ahead of me. Ive never heard of this game til now

[@appl3s0ft]

My dad found this for $5 when I was 11. I played through it during middle school and honestly? I’m probably one of the few people that really enjoyed it. The combat was satisfying for me, especially doing the critical hits and seeing bones shatter, good weapon variety and little ol me had a crush on Nina. Hell, this game was probably why I loved playing as Nina in Tekken 5. Looking back, I can see why people didn’t warm up to it and I wonder if I’ll have the same opinions on should I revisit it. I will say, as someone who hasn’t played MGS, I did think about DBD’s similarities to it. This game was probably trying to be a lot of things at once and I for one enjoyed it. Maybe we should have a remake of the game; get a better focus on what the gameplay should be, make changes to the story, there’s lot of potential to be had here. I for one am very willing to see it.

[@ChaseSummers]

Tell me about it :) I played (and still do) this game so many times.

[@danielwithane911]

i don't get the hate/criticism for this title tbh, it's like they expected it to be AAA and perfect in everything. The game was damn fun years ago, would still love to play it again today

[@danielwithane911]

@KingOfTek sure absolutely

[@danielwithane911]

@KingOfTek i already said i find it fun

[@JunKazamaFan]

"The characters are too underbaked to really leave an impression." Lana Lei left a strong impression on me. She is basically Kitana meets Freddy Kreuger, right down to taking an insane amount of punishment before finally going down. Also, she gets plenty of character development, slowly going more and more deranged after Nina kills her boyfriend/bodyguard Bryce.

[@megazenn22]

Isn't Tekken a spin-off of that bowling game?

[@blackknight9157]

Isn't Last of us 2 a spin off of that golf game?

[@blackknight9157]

@Greyson Gagliardo ikr?

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

@@blackknight9157 lol

[@firehunterz2311]

Isn't Street Fighter V a spin off of that costume dress up game?

[@maccelicco]

Tekken Tag Tournament had bowling :D

[@Canijel]

I remember seeing this game in a magazine and I was like: "Is that Nina from Tekken? Naaaah, probably not", well i was wrong hahahha

[@sangan3202]

they really dropped the ball on that, shoulve just left it as "Nina"

[@ttm77777]

ive been watching your videos for some months now (almost a year), and watching this one for some reason it just downed how much i enjoy them. the content is different from most youtubers, very well made and you can just tell you enjoy making them and you dont do it just for "clout". keep up the great vids!

[@minimme]

thankyou yo :)

[@ChaseSummers]

That Harada tweet! I remember when he reposted one of my videos haha (thus why I'm tagged). This game is amazing, I love every bit of it. The controls (which I don't consider bad at all) work fine, the battle system is fun and the camera (although it does cause some issues) is part of the challenge. You need to pick your fight in a good area. To me, someone who played this game a lot, the battle system is absolutely not a bore. It does have issues, but it's an experience. Plus, this game offers amazing visuals and astethics. I highly recommend it 👌 but thats just me :)

[@Larry]

Eternal Champions also had a bunch of spin-offs before Sega forgot the franchise existed for 25 years.

[@Snyperwolf91]

Matt Mcmuscle had an episode about the whole franchise and its not so eternally life . Its pretty sad how it ends .

[@laze_amvs424]

The way I don't know what this is

[@msmadmax420]

Eternal Champs doesn't get enough love. I always comeback and play it... don't know how I even beat it once back on the day. Game is SNK hard.

[@MisterX867]

Wait, when the hell did Sega remember that Eternal Champions existed...?

[@realamericannegro977]

I would like to know what spin offs they had.

[@acemcloud777]

This was incredible. I have walked by that game for years in stores/rental shops and had NO IDEA it was a Tekken side story. I loved the cutscenes you showed and it sounds way more interesting than I ever thought.

[@Duomaxwell02M]

I'm probably one of the few who finished this game lol. It can be fun, I enjoyed it despite the awkwardness of the control scheme. Just be prepared to wreck a Dual Shock 2 if you wanna get the most out of this game. Also, the reason why Death By Degrees is going under the radar is because Harada does not consider this game canon to the Tekken storyline.

[@Gyrbae]

Last time I was this early the video was still called "Ambitious Beat 'Em Up Spin Off"

[@minimme]

haha - I'm trynna settle on something!

[@bigredradish]

there really is something about this era of games that gets me feeling some sort of way. games like this and Spy Fiction come to mind where it's like, weird off-brand action games with bits and bobs from more popular franchises and weird still-trying-to-understand-3D-combat combat. as an aside, and not to be all "PLAY THIS GAME"; Spy Fiction would be an interesting thing to look at since it's swery65's directorial debut (the Deadly Premonition guy!) and it's a great example of a "we have AAA game at home" game

[@jonathankulesa]

You oughtta do a review of Urban Reign for PS2... I feel like this game is pretty damn good, but no one ever really talked about it... A hidden gem in my opinion...

[@winKoneR]

Feels like Namco did a survey asking Tekken players what other games do they enjoy and the top results were Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid.

[@rickythemaddragonxiong8757]

Death by Degree sounds like a Steven Segull or Jean Claude Van Damme movie.

[@fernie-fernandez]

RICKY XIONG I’m not the only one who’d acknowledged that...

[@jacobstaten2366]

I never really played Tekken growing up. I actually played the game for quite a while before I saw the title. The CGI in the cutscenes is actually really well done, especially for the era.

[@bagelfan6]

Nic Cage for Tekken 8, please

[@fernie-fernandez]

I prefer Robert Downey Jr. instead...

[@fernie-fernandez]

Gary Pay Than again, I compared the title to a Steven Segal film...

[@LegendaryGamer1947]

Please do a review of Batman Begins (Video Game)

[@daltondarko2016]

Very underrated game

[@ODD17Ymusic]

Yez please

[@thoughtgarden8090]

I thought he did already....I might be wrong

[@DarkOverlord96]

"Lowbrow and corny" And that's why it's awesome, Nina's hot as fuck so kudos to Namco for not being afraid to show her off like that.

[@MD_Chaos]

I've always been into tekken but never really checked out Death by degrees though I've always wanted to play it despite some of it's rough aspects. On a somewhat related note, the tekken devs did try another crack at a beat em up game with Urban Reign, which is sort of a beat em up fighting game hybrid and it's pretty fun.

[@serioussamson]

Urban Reign is also hard as fuck. I always try to give it another shot from time to time but get frustrated after a short while. It's still pretty cool

[@ZX3000GT1]

IIRC Urban Reign was made by Soul Calibur devs, not Tekken.

[@TheReZisTLust]

@@serioussamson its the dark souls of tekken

[@Roboshi2007]

has an american accent and claims to be irish. That's just 80% of the Americans I've met.

[@Rhino-n-Chips]

"I'm 1/4th Irish on my father's side and I love Guiness, I'm basically a citizen" Ye are in yeir fuck Ethan.

[@FIXTREME]

Maybe it was Bostonian Irish 😂 go sox

[@commentor4755]

I didn't believe it until I went over to New York, but yep a lot of them do claim to be Irish. Some are Irish, some are definitely not, but I don't care to be honest, it's in no way harmful. A lot of them don't have real descendants other than immigrants or people who arrived in to the country, so they like to discover their heritage. None of them are 100% American as that just doesn't exist, the only people who is a 'true american' are the indigenous people who lived there before being murdered, although 'American' would refer to the whole continent rather than to one piece of land within that continent

[@Wayneisboss]

One of my favorite aspects of KZbin will be discovering older games I had no idea were ever even made, and it helps when the videos about them are this well made. Keep up the great work dude, I'll definitely have to keep tuning in!

[@izzieb]

I genuinely didn't even know this existed. Judging by this video, that's probably a good thing.

[@thisisarcana]

take it from someone who spent all of their pocket money on the game as a kid. it's best left not known.

[@Ubersuntzu]

​@@thisisarcana Yeah, I bought it for roughly $20 or less when it was only a few years old and it still felt like a waste of money.

[@iempire100]

So why does it make me want to try it??? I know I'm going to end up buying it...

[@God_gundam36]

That thumbnails kinda hot ngl

[@edgelord8337]

You should cover all the mk gba ports. I just really want someone to talk about mortal kombat advance. It's arguably one of the worse games ever made.

[@PlastiGomi]

its sad because mk 4 on the gbc was my first introduction to the franchise just because it was free on an emulator

[@infernalshadows1522]

Stop skeletons from fighting made a video about mortal kombat ports

[@PlastiGomi]

@@infernalshadows1522 Also pikasprey yellow made one on the gb ports

[@justinellison1215]

Yo MK Advance haunted my dreams as a kid.

[@gabrielmanari4454]

Dude, you should talk about the Spin-off/tie-in of Total War: "Spartan: Total Warrior" for PS2.

[@Ammoniumbicarbonat]

As a child I played this but never got God of War, so to me now this just feels like the OG hack n slash

[@RKNELIAS]

It was literally "We have GoW at home" but still really good

[@sharpsonmusic]

I would love to see a "Resident Evil" style remake

[@ZalYagunRyai]

That would require effort on bamco's part tho. Too busy making cheap anime games

[@metalbrainmextrememetalent6810]

Seriously?

[@Revealingstorm.]

Let's be honest this game is never going to be remade unless it's a fan project

[@Space_Reptile]

Death by Degrees is my favorite MGS game by far

[@DragoonCenten]

I've had this game forever and only just now people are starting to talk about it. I thought it was pretty good though. They just took MGS and leaned in the other direction on combat rather than stealth.

[@FelipeGachimuchi]

This game is pure aesthetics.

[@Stoic_Lizard]

Hey I'm glad I found your channel. It's fun seeing coverage of a lot of games I've never heard of that others seem to have forgotten. Keep at it!

[@ThousandairesClub]

*Looks Really Good Actually 👍 they should definitely remaster it and put it in a Tekken game* 👌

[@FCV0511]

Always look forward to seeing an upload from you. I wasn't big into Tekken and had no idea this game existed, but I certainly miss how adventurous studios were with random or otherwise new ideas in the PS2 era.

[@jonathanmiley1248]

You made referenced The Longest Journey. That warms my heart.

[@greenhowie]

It really deserves to be known for more than that damn puzzle.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

Just looked up The Longest Journey looks cool is it worth it?

[@greenhowie]

@@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx Absolutely. It's worth it for the art and story alone - just don't be shy about using a guide if it gets too much.

[@jackodonnell3463]

I've been saving up for this game for 15 years it's good to finally get a comprehensive review in 2020. Very impressed by those graphics on the PS2

[@MrLilven]

hey i love this game so much!! despite the reviews, this game always make me giddy, the combo system hooked me plus Nina is my favourite character from Tekken

[@PepsiMan666]

Shout out to Analogman, loyal patreon supporter and Digimon World 1 villain.

[@sharpsonmusic]

Wow the boss with the katana at 10:10 looks exactly like Benicio Del Toro

[@v-trigger6137]

Lol I was thinking the same 😂

[@bigstunna2049]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@CyborgSodaCollects]

They definitely stole his likeness

[@t850terminator]

I too had The Longest Journey rubber duck flashbacks.

[@quepertron]

thanks for another excellent thumbnail and vid to accompany it minimme

[@laytonvicars4606]

Playing it on PCSX2 right now. It is definitly a hidden gem. I like pretty much everything about it. Thank you for discovering this game for me!

[@NolanAlighieri]

I didn't know there was a time when all these fighting games were getting spin offs... I kind of hope you will cover more of them.

[@charmingpeasant9834]

"very Japanese, very male gaze" Wouldnt want it any other way. Miss games like this that werent sanitized.

[@budaroddy]

Man! I just saw your videos have Subtitles!!! Thanks! Thanks a lot, very appreciated

[@ProctorC]

excellent video, as always

[@minimme]

thankyou!

[@lyokokid1077]

The fist game to use an X-ray mechanic is actually Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven which came out in 2001.

[@PsychoRavager]

An Arkham and Ninja Gaiden mix might actually make for a great twist for this kind of combat system if it ever gets some kind of remaster/remake or spiritual successor.

[@mack6up]

Do urban reign the good Tekken spin-off

[@benkirkpatrick6343]

Is it just me, or was that game grossly underrated? Like, it honestly had some of the most diverse gameplay, and amazing weapons list, and was overall a great game!

[@adrianlopez3373]

You have very good audio quality! I’ve been paying more attention to it since getting into voice overs. Good work man

[@nikohpgaming2569]

Can't wait for you to review another Beat 'em up game named "Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance"

[@Vixen1525]

When MGS, Sherlock Holmes and characters from Tekken had a meetig.

[@MrMaskYT]

I don't know who you are. But I subscribe and I'm glad I found this channel. Keep it up!

[@TheGuerreroinca]

As a life long Nina simp (yeah I admit it) I can only dream of a remake/reboot of this game, maybe with a story line that plays in the same time frame with one of the next Tekken titles (obviously not Tekken 8). Imagine a mix of the arkham series, metal gear and maybe a bit of god of war for the combat system in there and you get the perfect Nina game🙌🏽

[@radicalcentrist4990]

I haven't played this game but I would if it got a remake because it seems to have aged badly, but it has really good concepts and ideas.

[@Gee3Oh]

You pick the most interesting games of any KZbinr I view and do a great job covering them.

[@cikame]

I was having a conversation with a friend about this game 1 hour before this video went up...

[@busybird7149]

I'm sure most tekken fans are looking forward to a "beat-em-off" simulator.

[@JunKazamaFan]

Striking Vipers X Tekken.

[@Asdayasman]

Dead or Alive's spinoff is literally the best idea in the universe. "Hey, what if..." "Yeah?" "... Hot girls." "... SOLD."

[@majorwicket2261]

Dead or Alive is much better, and Ninja Gaiden was actually better.

[@hoodedman6579]

@DaraG 1995 I seriously doubt that it lost popularity from having a crappy sexy spinoff, it was already known for being the even more sexual fighting game

[@fernie-fernandez]

DaraG 1995 Even more that DOAX3 was filled with micro-transaction...

[@fafafagat]

Bro what a coincidence. I suddenly remembered this game like a week ago and I was looking for videos about the game and there wasn't much on it. There were a few walkthroughs and short gameplay videos and they were all over a decade ago. It's almost as if you sensed that I was revisiting this nostalgia trip. Oh that's why. I watched your jet li video which was also a nostalgia trip. Makes sense now. Your jet li video was what made me remember death by degrees

[@kujo4388]

I wish they still made games like this! Where’s my Sindel spin-off game?

[@jacks5369]

Man now i want to play this game

[@T4silly]

Woo! Would love to see more Fighting Game Side Games!

[@PikaPicu]

hi, i love you for the longest journey reference.

[@minimme]

one of my all time favourite games but man i hate that puzzle! haha

[@PikaPicu]

minimme the puzzles were pretty obscure some times i get that ^^

[@pizzicatesque]

The only cultural impact this game had was Azealia Banks referencing it in one of her early songs: I’m not the dawn diva I'm beyond ya dawn skeezers I get cake from quick chicks with long heaters *One seven hot stepping like Tekken* *I'mma be a main bitch in a game like Nina*

[@Cabamacadaf]

Technically Ninja Gaiden (2004) was also a spin-off of Dead or Alive.

[@TVm0nk]

To be honest for when this came out it looks pretty fun. I am a huge mark for the Tekken series tho so take that for what you will lol.

[@gracekim1998]

People can be different nationalities and have different accents from their place of origin

[@Fabio-dn3fx]

Oh god, I love this game! I was like 5 when I started to play my first Tekken, which was Tekken 3 and I always absolutely only used Violet Nina (that's how I called the purple first costume of hers), so much so that my brothers told me that the game started to not work because I used Nina too much! And since there I played every single Tekken game. I remember being like 2013/14, I was around 13 and this game was literally impossible to find in Italy, so I bought it off ebay and man, was I a happy kid. I admit it's mostly my nostalgia talking and my love for Nina, but really if you can, just give this game a shot! I like how you explain both the good and the bad, because most say that this game is scheiße, but it's really not!

[@vaugna1620]

Wouldn't be a mid-2000s Japanese game without Steve Blum

[@limzcandido7676]

This is my 1st game in ps2, i really love this game

[@Ghost_Of_SAS]

This sounds more like a case of "we have this weird beat'em up no one will play, let's slap a recognizable license on it so we can sell it and maybe break even".

[@humanice2]

I really did not like this game when it came out, as a Tekken fan I bought it new, but I sold it a year later, the combat and cutscenes/story was very poor, but I somehow regret selling it as it's not a common game to find.

[@jeromios]

I think everyone forgets this exists every time it's mentioned, so don't be surprised if everyone rewatches this periodically

[@supernoob17]

Oh my God that the longest journey reference I love you forever m8

[@colinmuldoon3709]

you know what i would play this game it looks kinda cool

[@painter5391]

Glad to see it!

[@siceastwood2714]

Good to see that you recorded this in the native ps2 resolution. HD just looks just off on those old games.

[@1r0zz]

It's because the ps2 had most often small texture. Even sub 512... When you ramp up the resolution of the rendering all those textures become more visible.

[@aldenmartin623]

minimme is one of my new favorites

[@Coccyx69]

"Alot darker than you'd expect from a tekken game." Wasnt the main charater thrown of a cliff as a child by his dad?

[@zendariun101]

Malaka

[@deathtoraiden2080]

"Dead or Alive did it's own thing" You mean Ninja Gaiden? Literally the peak of the genre?

[@Necrophilous]

Wow. I remember this game, but I had forgotten all about it. What a memory trip.

[@fifacraft49]

Great video! There was a game called The Cursed Crusade that did not get the best reviews also it was glitchy as hell but I absolutely loved it

[@rkbrillant5265]

Nice! Now do Shaolin monks next! I loved that game!

[@lucidity1353]

That game would be awesome to play remastered. Another Mortal Kombat action adventure would be sick too though especially with a souls like influence.

[@kevinlambert328]

Didn't even know this existed! Will keep an eye out for it, thanks for the vid :)

[@bartoltolic]

7:50 i remember reaching this point in game and i got stuck here getting my ass kicked by that first boss.

[@JunKazamaFan]

I had to adjust the controls sensitivity to get past Bryce when I first started playing.

[@Hinokassaudifan1]

Who needs sleep with thumbnails like this?

[@saintblades]

I had the Nina game, I liked it.

[@Tyresome]

Any game that shows you breaking bones and organ damage when you get a critical is AMAZING in my book!

[@Papan01]

Fighting games as beat em ups would work extreamely well if they are in 2d view

[@TheLuw1997]

Avoiding the puddle needs to play this on stream

[@greenhowie]

It's obviously trash because she's Irish yet isn't drunk and swearing the whole time but it kinda looks better than the promo stuff made it seem.

[@MAandS]

Concerning your intro: Tekken also has Urban Reign which was borderline a masterpiece. Especially for the time. I enjoyed DbD too tho

[@valkosilmapeura]

I pretty much never comment on youtube videos, but decided to come and say that I bought this last summer based on this review and actually liked it. It's pretty much like what you said so there is problems, but it was entertaining enough to play. Also got 24 the game and also liked that one and it made me interested about the show. I actually have the first season on my shelf, but never watched it. This week I also got the Dwayne Johnson spy hunter, the first cars game and cars: maternational thanks to your reviews and will play those during the next few weeks so just keep doing what you're doing.

[@Jadasan]

The only thing I remember about this game was the marketing in gaming magazines with Nina in the black dress or swimsuit in...interesting poses. Never knew anything about the game itself until the KZbin game playthrough era, and players said the controls were confusing and the game was hard as hell. Now, this game is nearly impossible to find unless you buy it secondhand from someone trying to charge you far more than the game is worth. I would probably play it now and keep it in my PS2 collection.