You Should Probably Switch to Linux (I Test How Easy it Is for a Newb)

[@Sieg670]

Remember that if you want to learn how to do something on Linux, give the wrong solution instead of asking for help.

[@RobsonLanaNarvy]

instructions not clear. I've corrected the Arch Linux community instead

[@donnie4645]

Modern problems require modern solutions.

[@starblaiz1986]

That's.... .... actually genius! 😂

[@daveys]

That works for pretty much anything. Called Cunningham’s Law apparently. It also works if you’re not getting engagement on projects, but there’s the balancing risk that people might think you’re an idiot.

[@mason8714]

Haha this so works in the linux community. They are funny people

[@numberz010]

Thanks for actually making real Linux videos I 100% agree with your point of people telling you "x is fine on linux" without actually testing the use case you are talking about

[@unstablenl]

People often skip saying that if you use multiple monitors/perhaps different refresh rates with Xorg, you might experience screen tearing, and fixing it can be a hassle without guaranteed success. Trying to record your desktop on Wayland? Good luck with that, as their built in security overlooks user experience. Even the built-in GNOME recorder might not capture your videos completely on Wayland. These little things, which people care about for everyday use, are important to know. I've been using Linux on and off as my main operating system for the past 25 years, and I use it every day for other projects. I really like Linux, don’t get me wrong. However, it's not the big issues that bother me (because these are often not typical); it’s the simple things that should work smoothly but often don’t. My advice, especially for average users who just need things to work, is to stick with Windows for now. There's really no compelling reason for average users to switch to Linux yet, and suggesting they do so isn't quite right. Every distro comes with its own set of issues, and the same goes for desktop environments and display managers/servers. When you switch from one to solve a problem, you often encounter a new issue, and the cycle continues.

[@ruineka_one]

I just wanted to put out there that there is a huge lack of funding behind most (close to all) open projects that many rely on and Linux being in the center of everything amplifies the importance of supporting what you like financially. Right now desktops like KDE are underfunded and the key issues people have long term are likely due to lack of QA. I have been doing QA like work for "free" for a while now and I have to say it gets really exhausting and you eventually burn out. It saddens me to see so many people thinking Linux will just be there and be perfect, when in reality what is missing is a sustainable financial source to ensure a consistent end user experience. If you don't have QA, what happens is that your users, potentially at critical moments, end up running into bugs and it is up to them to report the issue. It is sad that people have to turn to writing closed source restrictive software for a good salary because writing free modular software just doesn't pay the bills. If you tip your waiter at a restaurant I encourage you to think about tipping a developer or project you like. I promise you it makes a world of a difference.

[@gnatinator]

Good call on KDE. Krita is getting on-canvas editing of text in the next release, for people wanting to use it for design. GIMP has been stuck on the same version essentially for a decade. Fortunately Inkscape and Blender are already really good in their respective art forms. OBS flatpak is great.

[@ltxr9973]

I hope Krita gets a better grid one day. I can't see a thing when it's on!

[@Masta_E]

Krita for me is a better PS alternative then gimp lol.

[@nimlouth]

I didn't expected Krita to replace PS... but it is slowly getting to a point in which I can just do whatever I need with images/design on it.

[@Masta_E]

@@nimlouth same, but I use it very lightly. I'm sure professionals think krita is weak but for me it's easy to use, powerful, and freeeee

[@unconnectedbedna]

@@Masta_E krita is not supposed to replace an application like photoshop, it's for ART, not photos.

[@MuseHijinks]

I made linux my daily driver after the steam deck came out and haven't looked back once. Even games that have come out that I wanted to play and didn't expect to work have worked.

[@bunnysuitlewds126]

Proton is very impressive. And if proton doesn't work, wait a few weeks and check on Lutris, the community has probably made patches to get it working by then. The only thing I'd be wary of is anything to do with anti-cheat. If it has anti-cheat there is LOW to no hope for getting it to run well.

[@SolidSnake4Ever2003]

It's really mind blowing how much easier and user friendly it's gotten over the years especially since the Steam Deck came out. Proton has done a ton to make stuff work these days. I remember when I tried linux out ~10 years ago toying around with it on crappy low spec laptops and it ran great but the lack of game support made me stick with windows for my desktop. Back then, it was complete and utter hell, if not outright impossible, to get dx11 games to work. I'm very very seriously considering trying to main Linux on my desktop whenever win10's support ends next year. I really don't like win11 from what I've seen and read. Seen one too many first hand accounts (and also read a ton) of perfectly working gaming pc being ruined by putting win11 on them. As I get older, I don't mind tinkering here and there if really needed(like uninstalling/reinstalling a program, hunting down a driver maybe, or even taking a couple mins to wipe the GPU drivers after a borked update with DDU and install clean GPU drivers), but, I absolutely hate outright tech hardware and software problems/failure/broken-ness in general like win11 crashing/BSODing pc's trying to game or even browse online that worked previously fine on win10.

[@kanitsrvng]

Similar boat as you. I have used both Linux and Windows heavily in the past. However, the Steam Deck opened my mind more. I started to discover distros and search more thoroughly. As expected, I favor openSUSE. It’s just a lovely distro. I use it on my main desktop, and I run Fedora on my laptop. I can’t complain. Though I feel like I ran away from home when I’m not on openSUSE.

[@AQDuck]

Linux has two different clipboards for copy/pasting. You have the classic "ctrl+c/ctrl+v" style, but you also have "mouse selection" where you just select the text with the mouse and then middle click, works much better for terminal use than regular copy. Plus lets you paste two things without opening a clipboard manager. *Edit:* I did notice in Wayland however that selection copy may not work for certain "sandboxed" apps (flatpaks, electron, etc.) May depend on the DE but noticed it in both Plasma and Hyprland

[@AndRei-yc3ti]

How do you access the second clipboard and save stuff to it?

[@AQDuck]

@@AndRei-yc3ti Selection copy doesn't have a history and is overwritten when you select something else. Middle mouse is how you "access" (paste) it

[@thelegendaryqwerty]

If you wanna paste on terminal simply use CTRL + SHIFT + V

[@ltxr9973]

More like two or more. @@AndRei-yc3ti You select something with your mouse. Also don't forget that you can use CTRL+Insert and SHIFT+Insert instead of CTRL+C and CTRL+V if those are mapped to something else like in a terminal.

[@AndRei-yc3ti]

@ltxr9973 ah so if I ctrl+c with keyboard it accesses the "main" clipboard. But if i copy with mouse, jt accesses the other one?

[@gnarlin4964]

There is a major release of Gimp FINALLY on the horizon. My understanding is that once that release is done, further improvements will be easier and hopefully more frequent.

[@Tampsey]

I love that your videos arent super slow

[@Vitor-vy4dy]

I like that they aren't super fast, either!

[@absurddive]

You should've seen him during his TigerDirect days... *THAT* was fast hahaha

[@teksyndicate]

just put me on 1.25x speed and relive the old days!

[@colbyboucher6391]

Yeeees, I need to put so many YT videos on 1.25 or even 1.5 speed as someone bumbles through their unscripted tutorial.

[@egarcia1360]

13:52 You can click "Show more details" (the ℹ button in between game settings and favorites on the right hand side) to check whether it's running natively. If it's using Proton, you'll see "Runs on this computer via Steam Play" at the bottom, and no message otherwise.

[@cajonesalt0191]

Thanks for making this. I've been wondering where to start with switching to linux for a while. I was going to partition a drive and just see how it goes. Thanks for showing how well Fedora works to get things running. I'll be subbing. Looking forward to more content.

[@kaanyazici5766]

i like the fact that you used fedora as the basis for the presentation. It is so underrated.

[@JohnSmith-lc1ml]

So many people making linux videos recently. I'm loving all this coverage and seeing peoples different requirements and journeys into the linux world. People sharing their experiences positive or negative and linux users learning from those experiences is what makes linux feel so good to use.

[@swoodtek]

Windows 10 was a pretty decent OS for me minus all the bloat and telemetry. But after Microsoft made the OS “free” they pretty much revealed their hand to me. I switched over to Linux in 2019, and after a bit of distro hopping I settled on Mint and Ubuntu. Mint is my main everyday OS and I primarily use Ubuntu for my server cluster. Mint to me is the dream, it’s a beautiful, well-rounded OS. Gaming is generally a pretty good experience with proton and wine. My advice if you’re looking to switch is to realize now that your experience isn’t going to be perfect and you may have to make some sacrifices and compromises, but it’s absolutely worth it if you’re after freedom and privacy. Windows has become just a way for Microsoft to datamine every aspect of your digital life, so I encourage everyone to make the change. If you absolutely need Windows to run some certain applications I would advise you to install Windows inside a VM. If leaving the windows ecosystem is your goal then you probably shouldn’t dual boot. Run Windows in a vm until you can settle in to the Linux ecosystem

[@JMartinni]

Been messing around with Linux in non-professional capacity for quite some time, but... my issue with it is that there's just never a guarantee that basic things work and there's always so much fussing about. Just getting live CDs to boot can be a problem on some platforms (and I feel like this has gotten worse over time, not better). And people always say Linux is great to give old notebooks a second lease of life but finding the right distro that still supports that hardware without much fuss is a job in and itself. I just don't have time for it.

[@ZeerakImran]

I’ll also add that i cannot trust any Linux distro to be decent for daily use and keep my files and photos safe over decades of use. A lot of times the software and distro barely works when things are easy, let alone when things go unmaintained over a long period if time. Also, even if the solution to a problem is a simple change this script then that, I’m not doing it. These changes add up and make the system unstable over time. Plus, I shouldn’t have to. I’m also not going to paste a bunch of commands that install software which no one can pronounce to fix the problem, or run custom scripts I found online. None of these fixes are safe and they’re all good for messing around. But not for your main device with all of your personal data, cookies and so on. Edit: if it doesn’t have a gui and simple 3 step installation, then don’t waste my time. Just because someone doesn’t like command line, doesn’t mean they’re scared of it or can’t use it.

[@chiefterror]

Greetings from KY. "Several hours later" edit: I built my current PC back in February & bit the Windows 11 bullet. This video convinced me to both switch back to Linux, which I had already been using for years, & migrate my (snapshotted, transferred & reinstalled) Windows installation to a KVM virtual machine, for which I'm about to install some related drivers. Both are running stellar, I'm using Nobara as my host OS. I have all my games & files loaded back onto storage where they all should be. I don't know why I was so scared to use Linux for gaming & etc again, but your previous video on it actually nailed the very same issue you had: audio engineering & production via FL Studio which I've used for my electronica project years ago. FL now rests quite comfortably in the VM. Thanks, Logan!

[@fredmccauley]

idk who you are or why you appeared on my feed, but this video is simultaneously accurate and infuriating >_

[@jedipadawan7023]

Oh, irony of ironies... I put MX Linux on a non longer supported 2017 MacBook Air here. The thing was, the color calibratoin was wrong. It would translate cyan to green. Really green! This was a problem when he had to graphics work via Canva. There was no Apple monitor protocol that work and not manual Gamma control on MacOS. We COULD NOT fix the color under MacOS. Not at all. I put on MX Linux KDE on the machine and there no need to even correct the gamma. The color calibration was correct from the start. But, if we needed to, we could have controlled the display paramaters directly from system settings.

[@StormWarningMom]

Fedora is a great distro, I think it's great and it's what I use for my daily driver. For noobs though, Linux mint 22 will probably be the easiest transition one could make into the world of Linux coming from windows. Your intro to it is good, glad you took it on!

[@JB.zero.zero.1]

I'm a noob and had no problems (using guides) to dual boot into Mint and install basic Apps and games without any hitches. It's a great alternative, but I still drop back into Windows.

[@JordonAM]

Did a bit of my own research into switching to Linux, especially with the software that I use on a daily basis, and it seems unfortunately I am stuck. A few of my most played games are not playable due to anti-cheat or wine-incompatible SDKs, and a lot of the software I use in terms of audio mixing, video editing, gyro implementation, etc are also not available on Linux, nor run through Wine...if either the companies made the software available on Linux or Wine gets better with support, I don't think I can be able to use it as my Main OS for now

[@unconnectedbedna]

1. The only unplayable games are mostly greedy scummy AAA studios. (feel free to name games "not working" here and I will prove you wrong) 2. Switching from one platform to another does involve you having to use SOFTWARE for that platform, yes. Just like if you were to switch between windows and mac. 3. Why are you so locked into the mindset of running windows software on linux? (wine). Use linux software on linux, and windows software on windows. (games is the only exception here, they CAN use proton + wine) Unless you work professionally with some kind of software you just HAVE to use, it's a question of weather you WANT to learn new software, not a question of if you CAN or not. Don't get me wrong, we all have different priorities and computers might not be yours. But if switching to an entire different platform you HAVE to learn new things, just like if you were to switch to apple.

[@JordonAM]

@@unconnectedbedna ​ 1. It's a not a "Prove you wrong" thing. I'm fully aware Fortnite is only Wine-Incompatible because of Tim Sweeney. Supervive, an indie game, has an SDK that makes the game incompatible with Proton. And Minecraft Bedrock is of course not on Linux, even though I prefer it because of native controller support, and certain features that I'm accustomed to. I am FULLY aware through, like I said, research of my own that most of my other games that I play are either Platinum or Gold on ProtonDB. But seeing as Fortnite is one of the most played game in my rotation, especially with my FRIENDS, Supervive is a game I'm a part of a Partner Program for, and Minecraft Bedrock is yet again another game I play with friends, there's no way I'm going to switch over fully without those games in the Linux lineup. That's just how it is. 2. Yes...I'm aware. MOST of my software I use is FOSS (JoyShockMapper, LocalSend, Handbrake, Ryuijinx, Stacher, Bitwarden, OBS, Heroic Games Launcher, Cemu, Audacity, etc) . However there are certain software I have that is Windows-Only that I prefer over the FOSS Alternative. And those programs also have a Mac version, so it would be a smoother transition to go from Windows to Mac than it would Windows to Linux. Affinity Photo, CapCut, and Wave Link have a Mac Version. They do not have a Linux Version however. So that point is mute. 3. I'm locked into the mindset of running Windows Software on Linux because That software is what works BEST for me. GIMP simply cannot replace Affinity Photo. ShotCut, KDenlive, OpenShot, etc simply cannot replace CapCut (I also use DaVinci Resolve as a secondary, but it also has limits if it's not Studio on Linux) not to mention those alternatives are considerably worse in terms of rendering/export times, and some don't even support Hardware Acceleration or support it well enough. I've even done a benchmark test on several free video editors, same video clip, same style of editing, and same length. KDenLive and OpenShot did the WORST in terms of export times, ShotCut was middle of the road and Davinci Resolve and CapCut did the best. I care about my time, especially when rendering a video and my own deadlines, so I'm not picking a software that takes around 20-30% longer to export. Radeon Software, ReWASD, and Wave Link have no Linux equivalent in terms of power. Telling me to use VoiceMeeter instead of Wave Link is like telling me to using nail clippers instead of a lawn mower. And when I mention Radeon Software I mean I actually USE it. I USE Fluid Motion Frames. I USE Radeon Chill. I USE Anti-Lag. I USE Instant Replay. I USE Image Sharpening. Having that all in one software is a quality of life thing that I use daily. Sure, there *may* be alternatives for some of these features, but that means I have to separately download each one and configure each one separately, whereas I can press Alt+Z and it'll show up as an overlay and have simple switches to them. AMD Does not have this powerful piece of driver software for Linux, so I'll be quite annoyed to lose that. As a content creator and a hobbyist there are certain things on my PC that I need to have. If Linux does not have them, or a way to run them, then I cannot use it as my primary Operating System. Sure, I can have it as a secondary OS, I do already on my older laptop, but until then, that's the reality of my situation.

[@unconnectedbedna]

@@JordonAM It's absolutely a "prove you wrong" thing, if you spread lies, I will call you out for it. 1. Good that you are FULLY AWARE that you CHOOSE to stay on windows then. I don't care, but don't claim it is "impossible". "Can't play minecraft on linux"... LMAO Both the java AND bedrock versions work. 2. Same here, you "prefer", ie you CHOOSE, exactly my point again. (Learn new software, problem solved) Or are you working professionally with any of these softwares? If not, it's 100% a choice. I just made a quick search about affinity and it seems to have been solved since more than a year ago. If you dont want to learn new software it can be used on linux, you choose not to. 3. That is just complete bs. "no hardware acceleration supported on linux". LMAO And AGAIN, YOU CHOOSE TO NOT LEARN SOMETHING NEW. TONS of ppl claim what you do because they find it easier to cry and whine than learn something new. Things might be done DIFFERENTLY on linux (different workflow for example) but claiming "I can not do this or that on linux" is COMPLETE bs. Everything you mention in your post are excuses, nothing else. But you don't have to defend anything to me or anybody on the internet, only to yourself. And just because you want to tell yourself "I have no choice" when in reality you DO have choices does not make things in your rant true. Again, if you value for example playing fornite over peace of mind by not using windows, that is your CHOICE, but DO NOT claim "it is not possible to switch platform", you CHOOSE not to.

[@JordonAM]

@@unconnectedbedna Picking out and warping some of my words, but I will admit when some points are wrong or don't have as strong as an argument 1. If Minecraft Bedrock works on Linux then cool, good to know, thank you, but there's still the Supervive problem and the Fortnite problem. It is "impossible" (didn't claim that either by the way) for me to switch because it's a part of my daily life in terms of making money. If I can't play Supervive and Fortnite which help me make money and sponsorships, then I can't *just* switch over to Linux as a primary OS. 2. I have tried multiple times to get Affinity to install and run on my distros, namely Linux Mint, Pop!_OS, and Nobara. I haven't had much luck with it. If you have a specific directory or method that works for it, it would be great to know. And other than editors, you have not suggested or named any possible alternatives to things like Radeon Software, ReWASD, and Wave Link. I work with these software programs amateurly, I get commissioned edited videos and for some graphic design. Though I am also looking into getting into the professional scene with videography and video editing. 3. You misread. I said those EDITORS that I have listed have either no HW Acceleration or poor HW Acceleration compared to the other editors that are Windows and Mac. I've learned ShotCut, and I've learned KDenLive, and I simply cannot get used or really like their workflow. And from what I've looked into for Davinci Resolve, it seems Studio is the best way to use it on Linux, and I simply don't have the money to pay for the Studio version. They're not excuses, they are hurdles that I've had to figure out how to jump over. And I'm not defending myself to anyone, I was originally giving my woes on switching to Linux. I never once clamed "It's impossible to switch platforms". I personally can't use it as my *primary* OS. As I said in my original reply, I have Linux on my laptops, so I'm pretty aware of some hurdles I have with the OS at least so far within my field of power use. But I don't claim to know everything about Linux, as much as I don't claim to know anything about Windows. To make my life easier, I've hardened my Windows system some, with AdGuard Desktop which disables Telemetry, Tracking, Deep Packet Inspection, and OS-Based ads, so it's been a way more bearable experience. I think what's going on is you're perceiving me saying "I cannot switch to Linux currently" as "There's no way anyone can switch to Linux" and that's just a strange way to perceive it. This comment has always been about *my* personal grievance with Linux, and I DO like discussion about platform differences and ultimately some challenges based on some people, on why the switch is so difficult for some like myself.

[@frostedcheetos9297]

The response to this is exactly why people stay on Windows.

[@warthunder1969]

Solid video. My wife and myself have switched over to Linux Mint but I'm sure fedora kde is quite nice too.

[@AndRei-yc3ti]

Nint isnt the greatest for gaming nowadays unfortunately. Not till it gets wayland and the new Nvidia 555 drivers

[@ent2220]

@@AndRei-yc3ti but wayland is horrible if you're tech savy. I went from Fedora to Mint because GNOME abandoneded x11. I'll never use wayland, it takes away so many features "due to security reasons". It literally treats windows as rectangles with a class and title and that's all the info it can get, and you can't do anything inside the window using external tools like xdotool, because it has no access to that. Only way I'm moving from X11 is if they introduce an actual upgrade, not this joke known as Wayland. This is not fixable on wayland's part because that is its very foundation. Wayland, pipewire, new versions of GNOME etc. - all a mjaor downgrade for advanced users.

[@katemckinnon7323]

Thanks for sharing this with us. I'm looking forward to your modding games video, too. I love modding Bethesda games and have been intimidated by the learning curve needed to get all of the tools/utilities working with linux (Mod Organizer, Script Extender, xEdit, etc).

[@lucyinchat]

Yeah, Bethesda modding is the only kind of modding I just haven’t done on Linux (when it comes to games I mod). It’s great, though, otherwise.

[@lucyinchat]

It might work well, but I just won’t know.

[@MegaManNeo]

I'm glad you just gave Linux a honest try but if I can, Flatpak is the first destination to check. Especially for newcomers, all this terminal stuff needs to end.

[@cypher0124]

i would agree but if you dont use a flatpak for a game related thing then do you not need to use flatseal? i hate extra steps.

[@MegaManNeo]

@@cypher0124 I barely use Flatseal or KDE's built in feature for the same purpose. Flatpaks usually work out of the box by now.

[@cypher0124]

@@MegaManNeo what about having games on other drives ?

[@MegaManNeo]

@@cypher0124 What about it? I have my games SSD formatted in btrfs which is used by both Linux and Windows 10 (which I still keep just to have a backup if something breaks, as well as for VR) and things work just fine.

[@AndRei-yc3ti]

​@@cypher0124 i have games on both a second internal drive and multiple external drives and they work fine. Im on arch tho, not fedora

[@ThecatThecat-hq1op]

For proprietary software (like discord), I'd recommend installing the flatpak version because it's somewhat containerized. It helps reduce the amount of trust you need to give to the more secretive devs.

[@PoeLemic]

This was really helpful to show this to us. In so many ways, I sure want to leave Windows. It's like a bad relationship where you fear leaving, but you're happy once you finally do.

[@toonfoxart]

About the GIMP stuff....yes, I Work on illustration and some low level photo-editing and people keep saying GIMP is all you need but no, it was a real pain, it was so bad I was thinking that Linux folk were trolling new users. Krita on the other hand is only getting better with each new update

[@ZeerakImran]

I agree. Gimp is a joke. Even basic changes to the icons would go a long way. The cartoony goofy look needs to go.

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

Skill issue. It's not hard at all, just different than PS.

[@KingKrouch]

Been using Fedora, and it's a really solid distro, I personally would recommend that over Arch and Ubuntu (or even Mint) thanks to the COPR and how easy it is to set up software on. Compared to the AUR or third-party PPAs, it's a breeze. Been considering moving to NixOS personally, because while I wouldn't recommend a Linux beginner to use that, I personally like how I can set everything up through config files and easily replicate my entire software setup on a different machine. Which means I can use my desktop and laptop more easily without having to mess with symlinks and Onedrive to sync everything. I used to use bash scripts to set everything up for me on Fedora, but that can be a bit tedious. As a tip for older games or stuff with problematic fullscreen modes, you can use gamescope to essentially make older games run with integer scaling and such.

[@unconnectedbedna]

1. Arch is for power users ONLY. 2. AUR is NOT ARCH! (using AUR is like downloading a random exe from the internet and run it on windows, you put your trust in the person who put it there) 3. Installing from AUR on arch is a breeze, if you know what you are doing. (one command or one click) 4. If you can't handle arch, DO NOT EVEN LOOK AT NIXOS! 5. NixOS is immutable, so the software and drivers WILL be old. 6. ONLY use gamescope if you are on an older GPU, newer gpu:s will loose out on performance. (use wayland instead) 7. Nothing "wrong" with fedora, but it IS downstream of IBM/Red hat. (corporate), remember what happened to centos?

[@Raptor-y9f]

I was using Garuda Linux and was very happy with it until Chris Titus said it was a "pointless" distro. So thanks to Chris Titus, I decided to build an Arch system from the ground up. I don't want to be thought of as the little boy who played with matches.

[@unconnectedbedna]

@@Raptor-y9f That is complete bullcrap. I don't watch him, but I have heard others say he has said other really strange/stupid things. Maybe he doesn't know as much as he want people to think, idk... Glorious eggroll is a person I respect highly, he alone (close to) has managed to make gaming available outside of only the steamdeck with proton-GE. If that youtuber says his distribution Garuda is "pointless" he is quite frankly an idiot and you should probably stop listening to him. In MY humble opinion, arch is better, but that is FOR ME THAT LIKES TO TINKER A LOT. But I don't even think those 2 distros should be compared, they are 2 completely different things.

[@Raptor-y9f]

@@unconnectedbedna I thought it was BS too but I kinda get what he's saying. His argument is that everyone should start with the base Linux (either Debian or Arch) since most other distros are just these two distros with different software packages added. However, I think he's missing the point that some people don't have the time or the inclination to customize a distro from scratch.

[@unconnectedbedna]

@@Raptor-y9f He is saying: "unless you do like he says, you are a noob using "pointless" distros.." A distro is SO MUCH MORE than just a package mirror. Nobara for example, comes with tons of tweaks ootb to make gaming as good as possible. And fedora and nobara is neither arch nor debian based, so even that is wrong. xD You should probably stop getting your info from that dude buddy.. xD

[@gviehmann]

08:50 I didn't know that Epic won't pay the developer, until you install the game.

[@training7574]

Thanks for the overview! I want Linux to avoid the evergoing escalation of bloated software and hardware. On Ms Office, I don't use more than 5% of all features that have come up since 2003. I still use W11 for Adobe Lightroom - but all other uses can be done on a Linux machine. I tried Mint, but Kubuntu seems to run faster and is more inspiring.

[@jkbobful]

Good video I like how you chose KDE over the default Gnome I prefer traditional desktops like KDE and Linux Mint Cinnamon

[@JacobP81]

Just a warning to people to never run commands you don't understand. If it's an official page that tells you how to do something then it will probably be safe but you really should know what the commands your running do. Also many Linux operating systems you don't have to go through all these extra steps. On Linux Mint you don't have to use the terminal to install Steam. Apparently he didn't have to here either he just didn't want to use the Flatpak version for some reason.

[@abcq1]

I installed clean Fedora 40 few months back on my PC, removed Windows completely with intention to make a 100% switch. PC is 13700K. 4090, z790, 64RAM, 34" UWQHD. And I just couldn't get nVidia drivers working. They just wouldn't, and every solution I found online has failed to solve the issue. Also, my mouse was off by few pixels. Nobody could help( So, I couldn't game, couldn't use Blender, was bereft of generative AI tools, I could do nothing, my PC turned into a brick with a screen. I'm totally pro-Linux as for an idea, but how am I supposed to use it as a regular user if it does support... nothing, actually. Nothing is supported on Linux well enough, everything is a problem and a headache.

[@justinmoll7080]

Nobara 40 would be the answer for you. Takes all the guess work out of it. It's basically Fedora+ everything you need to be functional is pre-installed.

[@fredrik2008]

I would stay on windows if you have a Nvidia 4090, linux gaming is not going to be as good as on windows with that top end card, linux is more squezing out performance for lower end computers, or atleast good enough. I have been gaming on linux for a few years now but I have a AMD card, so fancy stuff like raytracing etc, is never going to be a thing i need. And yeah if you still want to try it, Nobara is the way to go.

[@jesus2621]

I tested linux i spent more time making it work than using it 😢, i had to go back to windows

[@Drazil100]

That’s completely fair. Doesn’t work for every use case and even common use cases can take some tinkering for stuff that should just work. I personally prefer it because I’d rather deal with the hassle of an incompetent OS than a malicious OS. On windows I spend so much time fighting the things Microsoft is forcing down their users throats (like edge) that I’d rather deal with the perpetual incompleteness of Linux knowing it isn’t going to screw me and sell my data while also advertising to me.

[@aceiowmydoraph]

I configured foobar watching your videos after switching to Linux this one of the app that I couldn't replace. Fooyin looks good

[@specialfred453]

GIMP is fine. It's not photoshop, but they would get sued by Adobe if it was. The secret is to learn how to use the tool instead of complaining that it's different from the tool you already know.

[@JordonAM]

Affinity Photo is *basically* photoshop. However they haven't gotten sued for it and it's been a piece of software for years.

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

Well said, but unfortunately lot of people are too lazy to learn new things and they expect everything to work exactly like before they made the switch.

[@soluna2252]

Linux Mint has took a bit of work and Google-fu to set up for me, but now it's running without effort (dual boot with W10).

[@powerdude_dk]

Why do you have to use the terminal to install Steam in Fedora? It's available in 3 different versions on Manjaro (arch based). A flatpack, and also from the standard arch repo. I think it's the same on Linux Mint. Fedora is really being weird there. It seems you have to add a lot of repositories. Which can probably be done through the GUI somehow, but my point is that it's barely needed on Manjaro (or any arch based distro), since there's so many packages by default.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

In Fedora there is a page in the software centre with toggles to enable additional, none free repos. Very easy. Steam is a one click install after you've done that.

[@powerdude_dk]

@@notjustforhackers4252 it's often an "it's not a problem if you know how you do it" kind of problem, which is always really dumb when you consider the first hand experience for people.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

@@powerdude_dk No different to learning any OS for the first time.

[@rdsii64]

I just started with linux. I installed Debian 12 on my laptop a few days ago. I managed to get the basic stuff configured and all the hardware works out of the box. I even manged to install distrobox. As a newb distrox is probably more than I should be messing with now. With that said, I saw a tutorial on youtube, it looked interesting, and boom bob's your uncle. I haven't installed anything with distro box yet but in due time. So far Debian 12 is working out ok. I may try another distro later out of curiosity but Debian is working just fine.

[@NicoBolaz]

You should check out a distro of fedora called nobara! It's a great out of box experience that new users can install and just go and play. It's made and maintained by glorious eggroll (guy behind proton ge)

[@nimlouth]

Fedora gang rise up! I loved to hear your satisfaction on how things just ran easily with gaming! Everything that you can't do on the launchers you can probably get running in retroarch or bottles. Gaming is cool in linux these days. I only see things getting better and I hope you can finally switch to linux in the future, at least with dual boot, so you can be free and set up everything the way you like without having to fight MS for it. I'm certainly trapped in windows using Ableton Live for music production but everything else I got setu up in Fedora.

[@orangeeeeeee]

Same here but with FL Studio and the VSTs of course. I've thought I could switch to Reaper though if I really make the full switch to Linux, still that wouldn't probably fix some VSTs not working properly. Running FL with Wine could also be an option of course. Currently dual booting Nobara/Fedora on my laptop and it's been a good experience. I like the customizability a lot at least. Although. Steam hasn't been so kind to me lol I have a game that won't work at all for me in x11 and in wayland it works but I experience some audio stutters. But I don't think it's probably that big of a deal. The overall experience has been positive though. :)

[@nimlouth]

@@orangeeeeeee oh man the X11 vs Wayland situation is getting me super tired rn. The only reason why wayland is not an absolutely working standard is because there is a lot of linux neckbeards complaining like absolute boomers about it lmfao. Luckily I see everything progressing smoothly and I think that in some years everything will be x10 times better than it is now even! I do hope either FL sudio or ableton (or both) drop on linux officially at some point. Would probably be as big as the steam deck for attracting new users from other OSs.

[@orangeeeeeee]

@@nimlouth Yeah makes sense, I should also mention that I use nvidia gpu. But yeah I heard Nvidia will now be accepting open source, so the future is looking bright, like you said. And yes it would be great if those DAWs where available on Linux, maybe some day, I'm looking forward to it! :)

[@orangeeeeeee]

@@nimlouth Well I actually got the issues I had fixed. No issues with wayland anymore for me, I just reinstalled pipewire, removed pulseaudio. And it just works now. I'm amazed, this is great :D Definitely making the permanent switch when the time is right

[@nou712]

@@nimlouth I'm positively surprised by Waylands performance after having tried it recently. But there is one problem I have with Wayland, it's making it harder to port apps between Linux and things like illumos distros like OpenIndiana. I just think it's sad to shrink the amount of options for OS's people have out there, and I'm pretty tired of getting snickered at about how no one uses illumos or solaris. (Mostly by people who don't really care about the open source ecosystem to begin with, and who have never used Linux or illumos etc in a professional setting.) It's just iconoclasm to go so far as to advocate for destroying X11, people saying X11 should be pulled from repos and the source code shouldn't even be downloadable anymore for x y and z reasons. Linux is a cute little hobby OS, and one i use for my personal computer. Imo though the best windows replacement is OpenIndiana with WINE. Not linux, not even close nor will it ever be since wayland is now a thing.

[@Krrly]

for snapshots/system backups, i'd reccomend trying out timeshift! love your videos!

[@warthunder1969]

Timeshift has saved me a number of times

[@nimlouth]

I couldn't set it up on Fedora at all. I wish it was as easy as it is to get set up on Mint i.e.

[@teksyndicate]

I'll give it a go! Cheers.

[@hazajc10]

By no means am I an expert, but I believe timeshift has trouble on fedora because their default btrfs configuration is not the "standard" way timeshift expects it to be set up. If you use ext4 for your root directory on fedora, it should be easier to use timeshift if you don't know how to manually set up btrfs for that. (I certainly wouldn't know that haha.)

[@unconnectedbedna]

Timeshift is NOT A BACKUP!!! ONLY use timeshift with btrfs or snapshots does not exist and timeshift is more or less just a glorified rsync script. (it will also take enormous time and fill your disk unlike snapshots, a snapshot takes about 1s to make and does NOT take up much space) Use timeshift in COMBINATION with a proper backup sofware like clonezilla or similar. The snapshots are an easy "save" if you bork your system with a strange install, broken update or similar (if you also configure grub to be able to boot directly into snapshots). But it will NOT save you from for example a hd crash, because the snapshots are on the same disk as the original data. Backups should be kept outside the system, not connected unless doing a backup or restoring. You should keep multiple backups, follow the mentality of 3 is 2, 2 is 1 and 1 is 0. A backup is NOT A BACKUP UNTIL IT HAS BEEN RESTORED, so TEST your backups if possible. But most importantly, DO NOT think you are "safe" as in "I have a backup safe" by ONLY using snapshots. If you do, then you are in a mindset of a false sense of security.

[@itsdeonlol]

I wanna switch to Linux, but I still need Windows for certain programs for work stuff...

[@nimlouth]

Dual-boot? Try on a secondary laptop? Use wine/bottles? If you want it you should just try when you get the time, do it for you!

[@teksyndicate]

I hate dual boot... did it once and it's such a hassle that I never used it. I hear people talk about it, but most people tell me that they do the same. Secondary PC is probably the thing to do for starters if that's available.

[@bluephreakr]

@@teksyndicate It's all in the setup. Many laptop users will have no choice, and all I've been using for nearly the last two decades are laptops. Disabling Fast Startup / Fast Boot, Intel RST / "RAID" mode and moving personal effects to a separate partition can help to ease the transition toward a dual-boot configuration. GUID Partition Table can, for _practical application and intent_ create infinite partitions, so there's no need to do the extended partition horsecrap that was necessary in the DOS days on modern systems. I've used Linux on a small variety of hardware, and most of the time it's been a success with minor software configuration necessary to get things working. NTFS partition use in Linux is honestly kinda easy; just install NTFS-3G, add the partition into filesystem table so it uses ntfs-3g as type, add to options ",gid=1000,uid=1000,umask=000" and _typically_ it'll work. GNOME Disks makes this _stupid_ simple. Not sure how it'll go for multi-user configurations, but most home use is single-seat single-user anyway.

[@zekezander]

Great vid showcasing how easy it is to get up and running on linux.🙂 One thing that made a difference for me pretty quickly on plasma was installing yakuake. It's a "quake style terminal" that drops down from the top of the screen with a hotkey. default is F12. If I need to do anything quick in the terminal I just slap F12 and do what I want. It's nice even if you're not living in the terminal because you don't have to do a bunch of steps to open a terminal to do something. I also think "alt-F2" is great. It's like the Run command on windows if it was actually useful. you can start typing and it'll auto complete programs and stuff you can do. With some plug ins it'll do unit or time or currency conversions for you. I think it's really handy. Saves a lot of trips to google. Just a couple of things that aren't the turbo nerd "OMG Why didn't you do that in *EMACS*" or whatever.

[@rxblackpill]

The beauty of linux is that you can basically do whatever and you can start wherever regardless of your skill level. And the idea is that if you enjoy it enough and dedicate enough time to understanding it, you can contribute back to the free and open software communities that have cultivated amazing software.

[@FlameForgedSoul]

Like you We have interests beyond gaming and web browsing, _most_ of which can be met by the Penguin. But not all. Being able to reliably/consistently/stably run certain design software (namely, but not limited to Affinity) remains an issue. Hardware support (AIO, media/TB docks to name but a handful) also remains tenuous. We are aware of Krita, GIMP and Inkscape, these do not ameliorate Our concerns. Also as you mention; game mods. From QoL for older titles (and several new/modern ones) to full on conversions extending replayability, kind of a big one.

[@warthunder1969]

True, though it is exciting that NexusMods is bringing their mod manager to linux so there may come a day where mods are less of an issue. (I play a ton of mods on BeamNG so I understand the feeling)

[@unconnectedbedna]

Yes, windows software is not for linux, just as windows software is not for mac. If someone WANT'S to fully transition, but has that one software they just CAN NOT live without, if you work with it for example, a virtual windows11 machine on linux takes care of it all. Forget about bottles, wine or whatever, just use a VM. YOU decide what to use. Photoshop? Autodesk inventor? Affinity? Just kickstart the vm when you need to use those softwares. So the question is how often do you need this software? is it more than 50% of the time, then arguably yes, stay on windows. If less, it's a CHOICE to stay on windows or not. The BEST solution is to change software, but if that is 100% impossible, a virtual machine works perfectly. I know this, because I have tried it (not affinity though, but both ps and inventor works without any problems). Just make sure to use passthrough in the vm to utilize the hardware on your machine. A plus side of this is if the software does not require you to be online constantly, you can keep the windows vm isolated from the internet, not risking any spying from microsofts or anybody elses side. :)

[@daveys]

I’ve used GIMP quite a bit in the past, but it’s a bit of a struggle to use. Main thing to remember is that a lot of things are an analogy to an old photographic darkroom, so unless you know how one of those works, it’s pretty confusing.

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

It has a learning curve but really isn't that hard.

[@Neumah]

Good stuff, Ward! Love to see more Linux content. And for newbs I would recommend something that comes with snapshots out of the box, like OpenSuse, because trying to repair a Linux installation when you're new to it is a nightmare that few new users are ready for.

[@jedipadawan7023]

MX Linux comes with an incredible snapshot tool whereby you can create a full install ISO with all your pass users and settings so you can re-install to a known point. Not only is a great as a system back up, it allows for fast install to that same known point across a wide range of machines. Of course, you need to know about installing an OS to use it effectively but it's a huge time saver when you have everything set up the way you like. I wish other distros had this.

[@MostlyDrew]

Any reason why you went fedora over favors that have alot of this stuff included like Linux Mint or nobara?

[@JohnnyElihue]

Idk if he'll answer but I can give you some reasons. Fedora is backed by the Red Hat company, similar to how Ubuntu is backed by Canonical, so the level of professionalism and polish of Fedora is on par with Ubuntu. Fedora does IMO the best job of balancing stability and software updates. While Ubuntu, because it's based on Debain updates much slower for stability, but a lot of your software packages will be a lot older as a result. Fedora comes with flatpak preinstalled, while Ubuntu forces you to have snapd. Snapd is bad because it's Canonicals proprietary solution they have been trying to force of the Linux community. Fedora doesn't try to add there own annoying changes to the desktop environment (de) you choose. They think that the DE developers know best how to deal with the user interface. While Ubuntu takes the Gnome DE and adds many annoying changes and color changes to it (similar to how a phone company might add ugly skins and functions on top of vanilla android). There is many other random reasons here and there but honestly, I think Fedora just does Linux better at the moment.

[@teksyndicate]

I got really frustrated while messing with debian distros and gaming. Also, OBS was being really weird. So, I decided to test some things out and I can say that Fedora was much easier for me and things just worked more often than not.

[@redrush-hp9li]

Linux mint has garbage old packages doesn't even run on last gen hardware

[@fredrik2008]

@@teksyndicate I can agree with you there I used to be a die hard Ubuntu fan for many years, but now a days package management is just a pain compared to other distros with non debian core. Arch is the easiest when it comes to package managment, but can be unstable, its nice never having to use the terminal. Fedora is slow compared to Arch but much more stable, nobara kinda bridges the gap tho, for some reason its almost as fast as Arch when it comes to gaming.

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

​@@redrush-hp9liIt doesn't have that old packages, really just 1 or maybe 2 versions behind and it works on 99% of hardware. Most people don't have Ryzen 9 and RTX 4090 Ti.

[@TheTallPalm]

Fuckin legend looking out for the small guy! "If you get an indie game, install the game. They don't get paid unless you install it". Hope Linux becomes more mainstream and your daw extensions or whatever works on Linux.❤

[@TheVideoGameReject]

Still waiting on the nvidia drivers to be fully open source. I want as little issues and as little reinstalls. This includes optimus laptops as well. The user experience just isn't there yet. Id be more than willing to switch, but i still need those conveniences.

[@tagesvaterpatrick8780]

Thanks for sharing your experience! I am about to dive into Linux after 30 years of MS OS. Got a peek of Ubuntu and Mint. Think I'll start there and work my way up... 😂

[@Saxjon]

For people coming from Windows, most of us recommend Linux Mint. It's more familiar.

[@CaracuSC]

Ive been dual booting for years. I finally uninstalled Windows. I'm running Nobara and can game with no issues at all. I don't play fortnite or much multiplayer games so i don't care about anti-cheat. I honestly have no need to ever have windows on my system. I am pretty happy with Linux, if only, I miss my adrenaline software from AMD, but I can do the same with Corectrl, LACT and Cooler Control. KDE plasma also has me covered with VRR and HDR. I can play my Steam, GOG, EPIC games no problem. And I can edit on DaVinci Resolve.

[@unconnectedbedna]

Thank valve for that. The MASSIVE amount of money they put into the proton project is what is making this possible. :) You know, the 30% valve takes does NOT go to the top 0.1% owners, it went to stuff like proton to make gaming on the steamdeck and linux possible. ❤

[@fredrik2008]

Well if you have a AMD gpu, you should be running Gamescope session for effortless gaming, hdr and vrr etc works right away with no configuration needed, also raytracing now runs out of the box in most games.

[@CrazyAngelfire]

like the desktop wallpaper... did you make it? how can we get it?

[@fauxshowyo]

Will be going back to Linux soon after a long time. The main problem is I use a lot of stuff like Clip Studio and play a lot of games that still won't run on it, so my only choice is to dual boot and use Windows (10) in a sort of quarantined way for that stuff, and Linux for just normal computer time.

[@WyvernDotRed]

FOOYIN! Thank you for showing that, that will become my next music player. Looking forward to replacing the broken Arch VLC package. Beats running the Foobar2000 Android app in Waydroid.

[@kyledupont7711]

Linux is freaking awesome. I was really skeptical a few months ago, I looked at the drawbacks and limitations thinking I would still end up using Windows. I was completely incorrect, not only do I not need Windows anymore, I dread using it at all it just doesn't feel the same. The Only reason I may boot into windows at some point is to play some VR games

[@willjohnsonjohnson]

My issue with Linux is the power saving features. They ignore the BIOS. I have a static clock set, speedstep disabled. Linux enables speedstep, and sets my static clock as the boost clock, instead of the default clock. This causes major performance problems. The CPU clock constantly drops during gameplay. I had to disable CPU.idle through Grub. This didn't fix the boost clock issue. Still haven't found a fix for that. The various Linux forums are useless for help on this issue. Many of the autist claimed my CPU was going to burn out.

[@adithyaarya1031]

For snapshots, I've been using Timeshift. Albeit I did format my drives as btrfs before I installed Linux but it also supports ext4 formats.

[@jorge86rodriguez]

Fedora with kde is amazing, it requires some initial configuration at the start which are dumb in my opinion to require users to do it (or at least not giving a gui) but other than that is a super stable distro that receives new updates quickly. Alternatively nobara is fedora based distro, is the same as fedora just pre configured and even more easier to use for new users.

[@unconnectedbedna]

Well, not sure why you are surprised. Fedora is downstream of Red Hat (IBM) and they LOVE the corporate side of gnome. There is drama going on in the gnome foundation right now in combination to this exact corporate thing. Nobara is not made "for new users" it's made for GAMERS. The maintainer of Nobara, gloriouseggroll is also the dude that maintains protonGE.

[@jorge86rodriguez]

@@unconnectedbedna Nobara is just linux it is for any user just because it has a couple of gaming software pre installed does not means is "for gamers", you can use it for anything you want. The reason why I think is friendlier for new user is because it comes with pre installed codecs, rpm fussion and dnf configurations that on fedora you have to do it manually on the terminal. That is not a good welcome for new users on fedora XD About the corporate side I kinda do not care, I use fedora mainly because of the fast updates. My other option is tumbleweed but fedora is more stable

[@unconnectedbedna]

@@jorge86rodriguez From the top of nobaras webpage: "Some of the important things that are missing from Fedora, especially with regards to gaming include WINE dependencies, obs-studio, 3rd party codec packages such as those for gstreamer, 3rd party drivers such as NVIDIA drivers, and even small package fixes here and there. This project aims to fix most of those issues and offer a better gaming, streaming, and content creation experience out of the box." It's CLEARLY not for gamers, made by the dude that maintains proton-GE. Nobara is DESIGNED for gaming, the REASON he made the distro was because he was unsatisfied with what Fedora offered for gamers ootb. If you don't know what you are talking about, my tip is to not say anything at all.

[@kwaki-serpi-niku]

There's no need to switch in the world of Windows and Linux. If you have a machine with even a moderate amount of hard drive space, then you can set up a dual boot machine with just about any version of Linux that you want and Windows. I've been doing it for years. I've got one box with Linux mint and Windows 11. I've got another box with Manjaro. I've got another box with Garuda and Pop OS. In a dual boot or even multi boot scenario, you can switch back and forth between the OSs that you need to utilize at your convenience.

[@teksyndicate]

Do you actually switch from one to the other. I've tried and it's far too annoying to close all the applications, log off, and reboot. So I just stay on one

[@kwaki-serpi-niku]

@@teksyndicate There are certain things that I have not been able to get to work sufficiently well on the Linux side of that machine. So when I need to, I just reboot into Windows and do what I need to there. I usually don't switch between the two but maybe once a week.

[@iusearchbtw69]

Welcome to the club my friends!

[@kittavares4334]

I’m considering moving my work laptop to Linux/Ubuntu, it’s getting old and windows downloading/updating stuff all the time in the background is turning it into a slug. My only issue is that I have my old ableton projects on the hdd and I can’t move it without breaking all the internal links…

[@esaedvik]

Grats for 666K subs! \,,/

[@rony9225]

I would not recommend Fedora for a beginner. Stability is very important, Mint, Ubuntu are a better experience.

[@teksyndicate]

My experience has been otherwise. I do like Debian though.

[@xjpsmithx]

spectacle or flameshot for screenshots on Linux.

[@macmuchmore1]

Nice video. I don’t want to start a distro debate, but I would like to mention Nobara Linux has a lot of the things you installed already included, and it’s based on fedora.

[@godtable]

The fist 5 minutes I installed manjaro gnome, screen scaling bugs, GRUB would stop my keyboard from working after wake up of the computer. I tried Ubuntu, better more stable, the same problem with the GRUB thing, easy to fix one change in a config file. I set up a VM to run Office and some other programs I needed with USB pass through.Then I went back to Windows, it's kind of slow and a program I use all the time stopped working properly after an update... I feel like I am too old for this sh*t :)

[@gruntaxeman3740]

There should be some idea why to switch OS if current one works. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence.

[@GoreGamer]

THX for this Vid, You did a Vid not to long about about this Mini PC from AceMagic that Im going to use for my home Server / AzerothCore. THX Big Dog

[@peterjansen4826]

Logan, I remember you testing Linux years ago, unfortunately you had need which proprietary software did not fulfill for the Linux kernel, so be it. But it is good to try it and keep trying it every now and then, there definitely is good musicproduction software available on Linux, both opensource (doable, but you have to use mulitple programs and download plugins and all that) and proprietary. A buddy of mine has fun with plugins for his electrical guitar on Linux, there is a lot which you can find for that.

[@JohnnyElihue]

You picked Fedora! I knew you were a man of culture. Great video. I'm happy to see this sort of thing. I've been daily driving Fedora Linux for almost two years now and I rarely encounter things I can't do and the OS has been rock solid for me.

[@naderz4064]

I switched to fedora from garuda 3 months ago, i miss the chaotic AUR but i have not had a single issue no update borks, its so solid i love it and after watching many tutorials i replicated the desktop environment i had on garuda, everything works and "safe" updates everyday, lotsa respect for garuda but its broke my system 3 times "on update" and im not smart enough to fix it lol, the joy of linux is all the distros and how when you get bored of one to can try another

[@LucasDaRonco]

The main reason I don't like Linux because: 1. gaming is worse 2. Hate how you install packages and apps

[@notjustforhackers4252]

What don't you like about installing packages and apps?

[@Drazil100]

Fair and to each their own. I personally really like the way apps are installed on Linux for a couple reasons. A) it’s easy to script a large list of my essentials and install everything from a single command when I set up a new system. B) when I update my system I update my applications too. The software is already up to date when I need it so I am not constantly being annoyed by every application I seldom open with pop-ups telling me I need to update it just as I was about to use it. In the short term it’s less convenient than downloading from a website but in the long run it’s much less hassle.

[@WanderingWind71]

Edit: I should probably add that I'm extremely limited in how much I'm able to manage when it comes to technology knowhow. I struggle to just make my pc not crash most days lol. Unfortunately I can't use Linux. My use case is mainly hamstrung between needing DaVinci resolve to work without hoping I can Frankenstein the drivers and Wine integration. And then with other software I just prefer it to work well and easily. What I do instead is use a tool from Chris Titus Tech to just disable the windows bloat and keep it from getting bricked. Honestly the fact I used his tool probably saved me from being hit with the Crowdstrike BSOD.

[@fredrik2008]

DaVinci resolve is linux native, no wine involved.

[@mrdenpes1309]

Fedora is nice, but for most users it would be better to use a distro with long term support. Upgrading to a new release can take work and cause issues that have to be solved. If you take debian or ubuntu or mint, you can use it for 5 years without upgrading. That's 5 years without problems, and knowing that after every boot your system just works like yesterday.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

But what happens if you want new features? LTS ain't the greatest if you're big on gaming is it?

[@mrdenpes1309]

@@notjustforhackers4252 I think it is. If you upgrade, you CAN encounter all kinds of problems that you need to solve. Most people don't want that every few months. Ubuntu tries to solve this with snap packs. Snap packs ( just like flatpacks/appimages) is software with their own libs build in. If you use your computer for everything, including gaming, then it's nice that it works today, like it did yesterday. That's why you have LTS releases. What if your scanner is not working immediately after an upgrade? or something else? I will never use a rolling release. Rolling releases are fun if you don't need to do actually work on your computer, and don't have a problem with solving issues now and then. I just wanna install a distro, and be sure that it runs for the next 4 or 5 years. If your income relies on your computer, I personally would not use a rolling release.

[@MyChannel-vm6dw]

Pc game riftbreaker crashes on Linux Mint when there are hundreds of enemies on screen at once, even with updated drivers 😢

[@yay478]

I'm using timeshift for system snapsots

[@jmz8086]

timeshift is great for snapshots etc

[@PassionTech-zd3md]

Pop os is another good distro I would recommend. It’s based off of Ubuntu with the gnome desktop.

[@nimlouth]

My wife is a pop os user. It's not in a great place right now. They basically stopped development on it completely because they are making their own desktop environment from scratch (COSMIC), and even tho it looks good, right now pop os is an outdated mess (can't even use the pop shop) until the cosmic DE drops. I can't recommend it over Nobara, Fedora or Mint. Maybe by next year everything is fixed and working again.

[@thescrewfly]

@@nimlouth I think the alpha of Cosmic is due quite soon, so it will indeed be a while before it's all properly sorted out. Until then I'll stick with Gnome.

[@teksyndicate]

I wanted community maintained stuff

[@fredrik2008]

Pop OS has been dead for a few years now, they halted all developent, while they are designing their own desktop environment, I would not recomend it, its super old and slow.

[@Lizard_of_Linux_Lane]

I've edited Thumbnails with GIMP. I don't usually use it for digital art though.

[@ltxr9973]

4:31 "Install updates and restart"?! Huh? On Linux? That's a bad design choice if I've ever seen one you almost never need to reboot. 7:18 Damned if you do, damned if you don't. But yeah, better install steam and firefox directly. 7:33 That should never be necessary, everything gets installed to a predefined path like /usr/bin and /usr/lib anyway 8:21 I always forget there even is a GOG launcher as it just lets you download the raw game installers. I get most old games running in pure wine but on Linux a launcher isn't the worst thing to help with that. 15:52 They replicated the ads in Windows but turned them into a useful feature in the process. Fascinating.

[@olbaze]

Fedora KDE defaults to restarting after updates. You can turn that off in the settings. I will say, GOG Galaxy was pretty great on Windows, because of its ability to hook into other launchers. Heroic Games Launcher and Lutris can give a similar experience on Linux. As far as the "ads" go, what you're seeing is different: The search is recommending software that is similar to what you're searching. This kind of fuzzy searching is actually extremely useful, because a lot of programs on Linux have silly names like "Dolphin" or "Nemo" for "File Manager".

[@mariozenarju6461]

It's a good idea to always run games through Proton, never vanilla Wine. Sure both technically do the same thing, but Proton is already perfectly optimized for games, not only to work optimally, but to work at all

[@brads2041]

Fedora KDE or Gnome is good. Fedora is a good balance between slow updates on an Ubuntu flavor but not the constant updates (and complexity) of something like arch.

[@LloydM2]

Although Linux isn't super noob friendly it's nice to see the GUIs have come a long way making more command line centric stuff more approachable. I personally prefer other flavors and distros but may have to set up a VB and check out Fedora for gaming 😊. Awesome vid bro. 🍻

[@Stef.Cata051]

I use a laptop as my main system and the main issue I have with Linux is inconsistent battery life, some time it is way better than windows sometimes it barely manages 3 hours while working in office, sometimes it goes to sleep sometimes it cooks everything in my bag. Windows isn't perfect either but it seem to be more stable on my system. I understand that Linux is developed more around a desktop and I'm not quite willing to swicth from AMD to ARM because of the limitations tied to that platform. I will still follow some linux distro releases and try them out on a separate ssd on my laptop but I don't think I can use it so far

[@fredrik2008]

I dunno about that, with some tweaks I have been able to get way more battery time out of linux on my laptop. Best so far has been fedora for battery life.

[@Stef.Cata051]

@@fredrik2008 I was expecting the same, I tried TLP, I even tried limiting my cpu at 2.5 ghz and it didn't work. The thing is at idle Linux uses way less resources than windows, maybe at idle it would be good. I haven't had any luck so far or maybe it's just my laptop, an asus vivobook with a ryzen 5 and integrated gpu, bought it without an OS especially for Linux, I had weird bugs regarding the laptop going to sleep, meaning I would close the lid and open the lid later and the OS would still be in the going to sleep phase(this happened lots on ubuntu, especially the cinnamon version). It might be my laptop or my ssd or my network card I'm not entierly sure and I unfortunetly can't afford the time to troubleshoot it right now.

[@nervaproject]

I'm a gamer who just installed Ubuntu Linux about a week ago, and I've been surprised at how things "just work" about as easily as they do on Windows most of the time thanks to Steam Proton. It's great. Haven't tried VR games on Linux yet though (hope it works out). You don't even really need to use the terminal for basic gaming use lol. I just opened the pre-installed "App Center" on Ubuntu, click the Steam software with the green verification checkmark from Canonical, open Steam, ... and just like that I was ready to play.

[@JordonAM]

Hopefully for VR you have a non-Meta Quest headset. Unfortunately, the only think that'll work with Quest is ALVR and even then it's just kinda..."okay". Index should be fine though. I can't say the rest for everything in between!

[@nervaproject]

@@JordonAM I want to do my PC VR stuff on a Valve Index.

[@JordonAM]

@@nervaproject Then you should definitely be good on that end. SteamVR and Index reportedly play real nice with Linux

[@jedipadawan7023]

I have installed MX Linux KDE on a number of laptops out here in SE Asia for people who cannot afford the new hardware for Windows 10, forget 11! Yeah, KDE makes it it easy - it's similar enough to 'Classic Windows' that people pick up the UI easily, and so powerful that when someone wants an extra feature - like tiling which came up just two days ago, KDE has it! Once installed I find it takes about 30 minutes to 'train' users on how to start apps and install software from the repos or flatpat and they are good to go! Most users do not even want to know how to delete files. Everyone who uses KDE Linux loves it. Their laptops are good to go for years to come and they can do all the work they need... for free. They do not want to go back to Windows. Linux is definately worth it for "Average Joe" now. [Cue the hordes crying "But you can't use Adobe on Linux" - yeah, we know. But Average Joe - who is not KZbin Content creator - does not need Adobe products. I swear the number of Mac users who think everyone is a graphical artist...]

[@bes12000]

I use Arch as main OS, but certain games refuse to run on it entirely and I tried everything including those "paid launchers" that are supposed to actually force them to run, still nothing, I have a list, now it's Microsoft games now, the ones that use microsoft services, it throws an error message at launch now for multiple microsoft games and some sony ones now... it's basically because of their game pass crap probably, both of them have a similar sevice.

[@AQDuck]

Only issue I've had with MS published games is the godawful login prompt. And what paid launchers are you talking about?

[@jakobw135]

Is there a way to get ALL the codecs that you need for audio visuals, and fonts, that you use for writing - on Linux?

[@BRBTechTalk]

3:27 "First time logging in" and you did not need any online account of any kind, so you did not need to sell your soul to the devil just to start "YOUR" computer. 19:14 VLC Viewer does video snapshots.

[@Default_Defect]

My biggest hurdle is seeing Linux users disagree strongly about what distro new users should go with. Here we have Fedora, which seems fine, but some people in the comments say its not great, they suggest something else. Someone else comes in and says that one is also not great for new people, etc etc. I have permanent choice paralysis because if the people that actually use the shit can;t agree on something, how am I supposed to choose one? I really don't want to have to distro hop a lot because the longer I go with out a stable set up, the more likely I am to just stick to windows.

[@CptNero]

tbh just start with anything. Using linux is a learning process. You will end up distrohoping eitherway, and you will finally find out what do you like :D I first started with Zorin than Mint, than Manjaro. Now I am no Endevour. I tested all of those on my second computer which is an old Thinkpad. No problem with doing a research on my master thesis, presentations for classes and with some tinkering, light gaming.

[@olbaze]

That's kinda the thing with Linux: Different distros cater to different needs. Fedora offers a lot of cool recent stuff, without being absolutely bleeding edge. But that also means you sometimes get stuff just breaking. On the opposite end is something like Linux Mint, which prefers to update less frequently to prioritize stability. The tradeoff there is that the latest hardware might not work. The desktop environments (KDE, GNOME, Cinnamon, etc.) make the underlying distribution LOOK & FEEL different. KDE is a customization beast: It lets you customize almost anything, but this comes at the cost of a lot of menus being very, very long. GNOME tries to feel simple and out of the way, but this makes it not a great fit for heavy multitaskers. Cinnamon looks and feels very close to Windows 10 and before, with a proper "Start" menu by default and a task bar at the bottom. The problem with recommending distros/DEs to people coming from Windows is that different people have different philosophies for that transfer. Often you see people recommending Linux Mint "because it's similar to Windows". Then you'll see people recommending Ubuntu "because it's the most popular so help is abundant". Then you'll see people recommend KDE "because it's like Windows but better", or recommending GNOME "because it's different from Windows". If you come asking for a recommendation, and you list your specific needs, you'l get pretty good recommendations.

[@xviii5780]

Just use Fedora. The only consistently working consumer option in my experience. Maybe because it's backed by a corpo, idk. You just don't do stuff in this world without corpos it seems. Valve, red hat etc., pick your poison. Edit: in general from what I've seen many linux users who are active on the internet have strong opinions about open source, which is cool, but not pragmatic. Using some fringe distro without backing from someone big will likely lead you nowhere and you'll waste a lot of time getting the famous "learning experience". So I'd say Fedora or Ubuntu are the best options if you don't want to go insane playing whack a mole with your OS. Or Arch if you have programming socks.

[@gx1tar1er]

The better word i'd use for Linux overall: unpredictable. Everyone will have different experience.

[@AQDuck]

I'm going with Fedora (initially) on my Framework laptop, but what I don't like about it (and most non-rolling release distros) is that you pretty much _have_ to add repos manually to the package manager.

[@MegaManNeo]

Just use Flatpaks.

[@JohnnyElihue]

If you are installing Fedora 40 workstation, then during installation of the OS, it has a checkbox that says something like "install proprietary and non-free repos" during the the first setup that will automatically install all that for you.

[@AQDuck]

@@JohnnyElihue I know it adds Flathub's repo to discover, but does that include dnf repos as well? OBS is fully open source and for that you need to add a repo.

[@nimlouth]

Yeah I can confirm I can install things like spotify and discord from the software center in Fedora 40 GNOME, and it has always worked like that for me.

[@Drakersen]

I have a single issue that is making me want to go back to windows. Discord runs horribly in Linux, my microphone sounds horrible for some reason even though it sounds crisp and clear on windows and even tho I have a beefy PC the voice from my friends starts sounding horrible when I stream my screen... It is so bad I don't know what to do 😢

[@ThePainlessGamer]

Logan, why do you sound so calm nowadays and not all loud and energetic? Did you put the persona away? Missing those TigerDirect days and early Tek Syndicate

[@rscmcl]

A Steam dev recommended the flatpak release in case you can't install the official package (deb)

[@deckyfx2188]

Why Fedora tho? Why not Ubuntu/Debian, or Arch?

[@iusearchbtw69]

Cool looking Fedora hat, for a middle-aged man who wouldn't want that?

[@teksyndicate]

I've actually had more luck getting things to just werk... stuff is newer... I love Debian for servers... but I hate Ubuntu. I think Fedora has been more stable for me and has more bleeding edge software at the same time. As for arch... I don't know why I'd do that. I'd rather just go for Gentoo if I were being a nerd. I also prefer the Fedora community.

[@deckyfx2188]

@@teksyndicate thank you for replying, most people who recommend to migrate to Linux never explain why they choose that specific distro, so people that actually want to migrate often drown between so many Distro options.

[@fredrik2008]

@@teksyndicate Well Arch is the most user friendly base, easiest software managment and some of the most user friendly distros, if you are talking about installing Arch base, sure I can see your comparison to Gentoo lol. But distros like Manjaro, Garuda and whole slew of others are alot more easy to use then fedora.

[@nou712]

@@fredrik2008 Fredrik, I don't think you realize this but most people don't prefer to cobble together an amateur hour system like most arch users do. It has to be actually resistant attack instead of just switching to wayland because the arch package maintainers can't write --no-listen-to-tcp in the default config or xinitrc.

[@thekeymaker6692]

My Dad likes Linux mint when I installed on his computer, all he needs is jellyfin a web browser makemkv and kodi

[@ferdgerbeler8494]

WMR VR headsets work in linux yet? That's been a big stumbling block for me to go back..

[@fredrik2008]

They work decently nowadays, atleast with SteamVR, but not really plug and play yet.

[@draftofspasiba2]

Still kinda meh even with ALVR, but it will get there eventually

[@ferdgerbeler8494]

@@draftofspasiba2 cool, thanks for the reply, was unaware of alvr, looks like people have gotten the reverb g2 working somewhat in linux, could be interesting.. it is getting to be an old headset these days, but it was pretty far ahead when it launched.

[@pathosmathos6529]

No shade but I just spent the better part of a week obsessing about getting Linux gaming to work. It did. I would even say it plays windows games better than it did on windows. Getting a stable and successful install was not a walk in the park. I started with the "easy ones" like ubuntu and pop os. I even took a whole day to install arch from scratch looking things up so I knew what I each command was. Oh, and the instructions I had included a backdoor, so word to the wise about blindly copy pasting commands into the terminal. Eventually I managed it by installing ubuntu server and manually setting up the graphics drivers from the logs I found on what wasn't working by using another computer ssh'd in. I hope everything just works for everyone else, but if you want to rip your hair out because what should work isn't... you aren't alone.

[@MINI_91]

I hope you will make more Linux content. Nice to see a realistic approach for new users.