‘Tell us again about the spirit of the game, Mr Broad’: Chris Kenny on Ashes hypocrisy

Sky News host Chris Kenny says English cricketer Stuart Broad should “practice what he preaches”, following his response to the latest cricket controversy.
“Tell us again about the spirit of the game, Mr Broad - or is it more about who's winning and who's losing?", Mr Kenny said.

[@me38443]

I'm English and have been involved with cricket, player umpire for 55 years, and I have to say Bairstow was a total dickhead for not looking behind and just walking out of his crease. Also there have been lots of examples of English players not adhering to the spirit of the game, apart from Broad, Mike Atherton caught cheating by applying dirt to the ball which he had in his pocket, etc.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Australian batsmen did the same thing numerous times in their innings….

[@petefumberger5225]

I used the word pillock to describe Bairstow in another post, but dickhead will suffice. Seriously, what sort of bloke just goes for an amble down the pitch when the ball is in the keeper's hands? If only he had said crease, putting his bat down behind the crease, then ambling off. It would have made all the difference.

[@HamishBanish]

You claim being a "player umpire" (whatever that is) for half-a-century and come out with that one-sided commentary.... I don't think so

[@deckard6331]

@@HamishBanish player umpire is easy to understand that he was a player and an umpire but it is easy to see that you are confused by that just like your understanding of the laws of cricket.

[@chrissumner9761]

Agreed. The whinging has been embarrassing. All those moaning need to do is accept that Bairstow made a schoolboy error, learn from it and focus on the Third test starting in a few days. It just comes across as sour grapes, it can’t be changed so no point moaning about it.

[@sjfortey]

I live in England and the true people who understand cricket and this concept of 'Spirit of Cricket' - What Bairstow did was village cricket. Bairstow on day 1 did the same to David Warner. i don't get it. it's out and nothing more should be said. Spirit of cricket is to play the game hard, but within the rules. Bairstow should just come out and agree what he did was stupid and move on. I posted on another clip with Boycott - he is an idiot for thinking happened was wrong. Sorry Oz no problem with me what you did - well done !!!!

[@shreeveda]

Geoff Boycott must be at home at this age. What's the bloke poking his nose now?

[@stevensmith7460]

Totally agree mate. We've all said the same.

[@danbill9165]

I am English and fully agree - I did this when I was 12 and never did I do it again , never leave your crease fml , Joe root talking today like someone had died fuck me

[@BanFreakLefties]

finally a sensible Pommy comment. Well done mate for being honest and understanding it was all within the rules of the game.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

You realise that Australian batters did what Bairstow did repeatedly throughout their innings, right?

[@ganeshnetreya6855]

Not only Stuart Broad, even his father Chris Broad failed to walk after he was given out by umpire, once against Pakistan.

[@mattlord3660]

Yeah, but they didn't tamper the ball with sandpaper and then literally cry all over the TV - all those NSW pussies are still playing for your country too btw. I guess that wasn't cheating then eh....? Same old Aussies....

[@BadDriversOz]

@@KurtBeck812 OR she should have SWALLOWED!

[@robertmason6366]

Just like langer in 99

[@djangorheinhardt]

Bob Willis called Broad out for that disgraceful piece of " cheating " and ,funnily enough said "He's a cheat,just like his father was !! "

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@djangorheinhardt and what you do you think Bob would have thought of Brad Haddin, who edged in the same game and didn’t walk?

[@Jaezon]

In the "Spirit of the game", Batsmen don't leave their crease early to gain an advantage whilst a delivery is being bowled, or leave their crease until the over is called. Teams also don't sook and cry foul about umpires decisions, and then publicly question and bash the opposition team.

[@peterpearson1675]

No? only if you are called Ponting.

[@cjw7924]

@@peterpearson1675 Is the ‘spirit of cricket’ the last refuge of the loser?

[@gothicwriter9897]

I'm a Brit and I totally agree. The Aussies did nothing wrong. If the English Cricket team don't like it they shouldn't be on the pitch.

[@Fed_Express]

There was so much bat on that ball, it was like Wuhan wet market 😂😂😂 Bloody brilliant! Can always count on Aussies to inject much needed humour in every situation. I’d have loved to hear the dear departed Warnie’s take on this. He’s still dearly missed 😢 💔

[@birtlee2078]

Warnie would hav e slated Cummins for not showing sportsmanship !

[@idontlikethiswedbettergo5888]

Made me chuckle..👍 well done that man.

[@CJArnold-hq3ey]

@@birtlee2078 against other side's but against Whinging Poms who look down their noses at ""The Colonials" yer sure and I'm the Pope

[@leonardwong4538]

Hahahahaha like a Wuhan wet market. Bloody brilliant

[@zeropoint546]

@@birtlee2078 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WarriorsSon]

Misdirected anger. England should be upset with Bairstow. Had he not got himself out they may have won. Well played Aust.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Did you watch the match, or even cricket in general? Australian batters wandered out of their crease between overs throughout their innings, as players from around the world do.

[@ahmedabdul-rehman6511]

​@@user-mk5io6yt9c That is always after the ball has been declared dead by the umpires. If the ball hasn't been declared dead by the umpires, and the players are still going for a walk, it's the fielding side who is not paying enough attention. And it is not misdirected anger, this is pure hypocrisy from the Englishmen. Why did Stokes accept the over-throw boundary in the final over of the world cup 2019? Play fair Stokes, score your own runs. Though he immediately apologized to the kiwi's for the boundary but he gladly accepted all the 5 runs that were not his for the taking.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@ahmedabdul-rehman6511 No, it’s not after the ball has been declared dead by the umpires. Go watch the Australian innings back, their batsmen do it constantly. The deflection overthrows have absolutely nothing to do with sportsmanship, if a throw gets deflected inadvertently then overthrows are due. That’s not a ‘spirit of the game’ issue at all, and nobody has ever suggested that Stokes did or even could have intentionally deflected the ball. He apologised to make it clear he didn’t do it intentionally, but there’s no mechanism to refuse runs, and even if there was he shouldn’t have taken it because overthrows on deflected throws are a part of the game. There is a mechanism to withdraw appeals, however, and as stumping or running out players between overs who are on their gardening wander is NOT part of the game, Australia should have withdrawn their appeal, or not made it in the first place. The hypocrisy is Australians screeching about ‘spirit of the game’ after the day before and the Starc grounding, after Starc had claimed a catch he knew he hadn’t taken cleanly, then doing this!

[@derekallan1341]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c so what??

[@derekallan1341]

@@ahmedabdul-rehman6511 100% but the poms will chose to dismiss and ignore that!!!!!!!

[@aidans6274]

When my son used to play cricket, the coach always said to not assume a dead ball. Schoolboy error I think. I'm English and ashamed by the boors in the Long Room.

[@petepierre6458]

That is one of the first things you teach a 10 year old. Where was Bairstow when they told him this?

[@piyushmahajan5609]

It shows pure game awareness on Careys' part and complete lack of it on Bairstow's part. Period!!!

[@rohanmarkjay]

This sought of thing happens regularly at Wembley with English football fans as a lot of them graceless and don't respect the opposition. But it is a shock to see the Long room turning into a section of English football hooligans at wembley. You never expect that in Cricket at Lord's.

[@sayy_gaarr]

Why is nobody bringing out that England literally took the world cup away from nz playing without the spirit of cricket?

[@martinepstein3332]

And how about Australia cheating in South Africa

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Because it makes no sense? What did England DO that was against the spirit of cricket? Overthrows are part of cricket, and Stokes didn’t intentionally deflect the ball to cause them. The most boundaries rule was known to all before the tournament started, and didn’t specifically benefit England. While it was an unfortunate way for New Zealand to lose it wasn’t because of anything bad that England did.

[@upthebracket26]

no-one cares about one day cricket.

[@peterpiper482]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c As a NZer I agree.England did nothing wrong,however,it was their first Cup win and they celebrated like you would expect a soccer team to do when they win on penalties.I was rapt that they now think beating NZ was cause for celebration,we were the easy beats for years when I was growing up.They bowled us out for 26 when I was a cricket mad 3rd former.

[@1x1x1is1]

​@@user-mk5io6yt9cif the deflection from batsman going for 4 is ok ... This stumping is definitely ok New Zealand are the real winners of world cup

[@DaveWhoa]

Spirit of the Game exhibit A: Bairstow attempted the exact same thing by trying to catch Marnus Labuschagne stepping out of his crease two days earlier. Spirit of the Game exhibit B: England coach Brendon McCullum as keeper has many identical dismissals. (Mpofu 2005, Muralitharan 2006, Collingwood 2009) Spirit of the Game exhibit C: Broad edging a ball to slip but refusing to walk, an edge the English quick has since admitted to. Spirit of the Game exhibit D: Ollie Robinson telling Usman Khawaja to "F*** off" after dismissing him on 141. Spirit of the Game exhibit E: The MCC long room behaved disgracefully. Not surprisingly three MCC members are now suspended. Spirit of the Game exhibit F: The crowd chanting that Australians are cheaters. Actually the only person convicted of cheating in this series is England's Moeen Ali. Spirit of the Game exhibit G: England bowling 'Bodyline' on day 4, for a record 98% short balls. Also extremely boring to watch - so much for "entertaining bazball". Spirit of the Game exhibit H: England/fans not respecting umpires decision. This was not a bad LBW call, a missed no ball (etc)... this was within the laws. Spirit of the Game exhibit I: England using mints to shine the ball in the 2005 Ashes. Spirit of the Game exhibit J: England keeper Ben Foakes stumping Irishman Andy Balbirnie after holding onto the ball for a far greater amount of time than what Carey did. I won't add Duckett not walking re Starc's catch, because we respect that rules are rules. I also won't add England's controversial win over New Zealand in the World Cup final involving Stokes himself as there's been no shortage of comments about that.

[@markdonaldson1450]

Moan, moan, moan, moan moan. Whinging Aussie

[@edsonbarbosa4978]

All those 10 events will lose heavily against a page of sandpaper.

[@derekallan1341]

I can name you at least 2 episodes of Mike Atherton also not in the spirit of the game. Both against South Africa. I think this has made many people sit up and realise that in the spirit of the game is for nursery books. One of the very few that played in the spirit of the game were Amla and Gilchrist. Both not English. AND yes before some of you berate me. there were other nations, SA, India, Pakistan as well that are/were not angels. Play hard to win but within the confines of the laws of cricket.

[@robertdolton7932]

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[@cjw7924]

@@markdonaldson1450 Is the ‘spirit of cricket’ the last refuge of the loser?

[@charcolew]

Stuart Broad will come to regret his words and his stance. "Broadly speaking" might come to mean "talking through your hat".

[@DMA3918]

talking through your arse would be more appropriate😂

[@derekallan1341]

he made an absolute fool of himself that day. \he looked like a drunk trying to find his car keys that he had dropped on the bar floor. What a joke

[@kevrenshaw6177]

Im a pom living in Queensland. Its all handbags at dawn. Bairstiw was the real problem and his lazy attitude and complacency is what caused the problem. We didn't loose this game because of this incident. We lost the game because we weren't as good on the day. Imagine how much stick I get at work all the time even though I'm happy with how it all went down. Sure 2018 was a bad tome for AUstralia but they were daft enough to get caught when many other countries do the same thing.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

What other countries bring sandpaper onto the pitch? Bairstow’s ‘lazy attitude’ is one shared by most or all Australian batters also. Go watch back some of their innings if you can, and be amazed at Australians wandering out of their crease at the end of each over when the ball could still be live. The only difference is England have some level of sportsmanship and would never try to get a player out like that.

[@billymctaco721]

Being a batsman I actually support Mancad, I've seen bowlers give warnings to guys 2 yards down the track, batsman turns around like huh, what. You don't get to switch off from these things just cos you're top level.

[@russe19642]

Just creates interest in the game now,I think the poms are going well without winning

[@georgegreaves8593]

It's annoying when a batsman hits a ball and doesn't walk generally you usually lose the game because of cheating

[@tomben6180]

We were 43 runs short, that Bairstow incident definitely was a big factor

[@aliaunsyed9248]

Pakistan fan so I speak as a neutral but these are the types of things that make England easily the most unbearable team. If only they spent as much time trying to win the next match.

[@jay8564]

Well said Sir.

[@Realist839]

Pakistan and neutral cannot be in the same sentence. You throw a few dollars, and Pakistan(is) will sell anything, literally anything!

[@askeladden450]

​@@Realist839indians resisting the urge to sledge pakistanis challenge (impossible)

[@Realist839]

@@askeladden450 how is the long atta begging line doing?! Have you sold the Karachi port to the Chinese yet?

[@askeladden450]

@@Realist839 wtf?

[@jonathanwhittaker677]

As a pom I find it hard to take that broad is trying to take the moral high ground after THAT edge!!

[@lockyp204]

It was a full blown late cut 🤣

[@jonathanwhittaker677]

@@lockyp204 I remember watching it live and couldn't believe what I was seeing...and when stump mic caught him saying to carey.."you'll be forever remembered for this"...I was like fuck me..🤯🤯

[@lockyp204]

@@jonathanwhittaker677 😂

[@knight2425]

Broads comment really do make him look pathetic, he is right that the Aussies could have taken back their appeal even though they didn’t have just like he could have walked even though he didn’t have to. Stuart you didn’t do what was sportsman’s like and in the spirit of the game just as Cummins did, your action probably is the reason Cummins didn’t retract the appeal so karma came and bit you and the English team

[@kevinohara8671]

You can't compare the 2 incidents one is broad cheating the others the whole team cheating bit like sandpapergate lol

[@kalakhatta8652]

#More bat than Wuhan wet market"...holy shit that was awesome

[@Jazzanaught]

Definitely not the Wuhan institute of virology lol

[@chrisp3330]

I’m a proud Yorkshireman/Englishman and believe in the ‘old school’ that, in sport, winning is all that matters. Bairstow was out, pure and simple. Even in village cricket you’d look behind you and ground your bat - he was stupid. If the boot was on the other foot we’d have claimed the wicket, no doubt - Bairstow shys at the stumps every time a batter is out of his crease and so he should. I also think Starcs catch should have stood the day before, nothing wrong with it. I just wish this England team would adopt the Aussie winning mentality as I’m sick to death of this ‘Bazball’ bullshit!

[@henryburton6529]

"Bairstow was out, pure and simple. Even in village cricket you’d look behind you and ground your bat " He did. The umpires were handing the bowler his hat the over was so over.

[@peterfromgw4615]

Mate, I agree with you on the Bazball bullshit…. Grüße aus Australien. Tschüss.

[@stephenm9799]

So.... to summarise: sandpaper cheating and crying like a baby is fine as long as you win and catching a ball against the ground is allowed... I see.

[@cliveelliott2575]

The boot would never be on the other foot, that's the whole point, it's cheating, everyone who has played the game knows you don't do this at the end of an over, during the over a different kettle of fish. None of these will be temembered for cricket, just as cheats.

[@00peter000000]

@@iridium8341 or dirt in the pocket englishmen hey?

[@chriscurtain1816]

I remember Clive Lloyd accidently knocked his bails off. But no fielding players noticed or appealed. So just as the bowler started his next run up he calmly halted play and put the bails back on the stumps. Is that the same as a batsman not walking when he knows he's been caught? Now those are controversial examples. I don't see what's so controversial about a wicket keeper hitting the stumps when a batsman has left his crease. If the keeper had missed the stumps the batman would have happily taken any available runs.

[@Kaiserbill99]

Then you don't understand the etiquette of cricket.

[@TheToledoTrumpton]

Really, I don't think Bairstow would have looked back or tried to run. I think he genuinely thought the ball was dead. I think if you look at the last ball before a break, you will see dozens of batsman walking off no less quick than Bairstow did. I think it genuinely is bad sportsmanship, but is expecting sportsmanship in a professional game in 2023 naïve? Probably. I think it was a missed opportunity though. If Cummins had stepped up and told the umpires, "No we don't want to win like that; the ball was dead", he would have gone down in history as pure class. Of course if Australia had then gone on to lose, he would have gone down in history as a right plonker. I think it would have been a lot more fun for the game if he had done it, either way. These guys have to remember they are entertainers. Winning isn't the sole purpose of the game.

[@nickreid5939]

Cant remember Clive Lloyd accidently knocking his bails off🤔

[@Kaiserbill99]

@@TheToledoTrumpton It is patently obvious that Bairstow thought the ball was dead. The issue is that the Australian tem did not seem to think this mattered.

[@kaytee9097]

If you actually believe the Batsman was attempting to take a run by walking to the other end, then (1) you have no idea how singles or doubles are taken by "running" between the wicket (it isn't called walking between the wickets for a reason) and (2) your eyesight test is long overdue.

[@Reneesillycar74]

Geez! Its utterly embarrassing watching all this drama. The irony of England spouting “the spirit of the game” when Bairstow tried the exact same tactic on Marnus Labuschagne a few days earlier! That is the epitome of blatant hypocrisy & it’s hilarious! Come on England! Just stop, pull up your big girl panties & play the game. Now the most disappointing thing in all of this is Stokes’ comments. After an absolute cracker of a game, I wish Stokes had as much class as Cummins during his interview. Very disappointing tbh & made me re-evaluate his character. He sold his soul to the Members, looking for their approval instead of standing up like a man & a captain & calling out Bairstow’s utter stupidity. That was some low level kid’s grade playing. There Stokes; I did it for you 😂

[@stevetheprogger1]

Bairstow did try the same thing...missed the stumps. Difference is he may not have appealed. Stokes said he wouldn't have. Also, didn't hear too much whinging from Glenn McGrath when that "catch" was rightly given not out!

[@MrBadintentionss]

@@stevetheprogger1 the best predictor of future behaviour is past relevant behaviour. not only did bairstow try the exact same thing on labuschagne, BUT he dismissed a batsman in county cricket THIS SEASON by waiting for the batsman to lift his foot (patel was his name) after he had taken the ball, and then removed the bails once he did so. karma.

[@stevetheprogger1]

@@MrBadintentionss nothing wrong with that... That's how stumpings happen. When that happens the batsman doesn't assume it's the end of the over does he? That could happen during any ball of the over... I've had that done to me! I walked off thinking that was a smart bit of keeping!

[@MrBadintentionss]

@@stevetheprogger1 also, you may remember stokes palming a ball away while batting in a one-dayer (video is on youtube) while he was out of his crease, that mitchell starc was throwing at the stumps. stokes did it so that he couldn't be run out while he tried to get back in his crease. so bairstow did the exact same thing to labuschagne two days earlier, and stokes (who claimed he wouldn't want to win that way), isn't telling the truth. we call that....karma.

[@glen8461]

.... and further Stokes ,The Captain, should have warned his player about his repeatedly leaving his crease , thus putting his wicket at risk. This was negligent on his behalf and poor captaincy.

[@dineshkishore29]

It's nothing but an excuse to somehow justify Bairstow's carelessness.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Same carelessness that Australians displayed throughout their innings also….

[@MrBadintentionss]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c ...which is why bairstow tried the exact same thing with labuschagne...but missed.

[@mjshortstay609]

​@@user-mk5io6yt9cand had they have been dismissed they would have accepted it.

[@peterpiper482]

Odd that Bairstow ,at the moment,performing so badly with the gloves that it is embarrasing,and Carey is one of the best performers with the gloves you could expect to see in Test cricket. (probably the kiss of death statement but he will miss something sometime).

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@MrBadintentionss imagine being dumb enough to not see the difference to a player playing outside of their crease.

[@piyushmahajan5609]

It shows pure game awareness on Careys' part and complete lack of it on Bairstow's part. Period!!!

[@martinepstein3332]

The Bodyline series

[@douglasmegson3739]

I guess Bodyline was in the spirit of the game after all. 😂

[@jamesbrennan7355]

What does that have to do with anything here exactly?

[@lockyp204]

Yep the spirit of the game seems to apply to everybody except England.

[@johnvienta7622]

@@lockyp204 ..... Really. What about the recent series against NZ when the umpire didn't signal a wide on what turned out to be the second last ball of the match, and which would have tied the scores. He was just gutless and NZ won... England did not complain and the event barely got a mention in the media. The players are not the only ones covered by the 'spirit of the game'.

[@lockyp204]

@@johnvienta7622 Didn’t see it. So I’m not even sure of what you’re talking about. I don’t watch every ball of every test series.The “spirit of the game,” is an English construct that they don’t seem to have to adhere to for some reason 🤷‍♂️ Classic imperialism. On full display at the long walk at Lords. Stuart Broad going on about the spirit of the game. Edges the ball to first slip and doesn’t walk 🤣That’s the spirit 👍 only when it’s convenient to England of course.

[@johnvienta7622]

@@lockyp204 .. Is there any requirement under the rules of cricket to walk? If there was there would be no need for umpires. You are either young or don't watch much cricket if you put England at the top of the list for unsporting behaviour. Try finding the video of Justin Langer dislodging the bails during a match (with his fingers as he ran behind the batsman) and then claiming hit wicket.

[@JaseC80]

Breaking News: The entire England Cricket Team has undergone medical assessments under the concussion guidelines….officials are concerned at the immediate loss of memory by all of the squad, including the coach. Medical staff believe it may be a case of pompous, self entitled, sore looseritis, hypocrisy they’re all suffering. Which has lead to a hereditary bout of whinging, whining and rants about a subject they have no knowledge of or experience in… ‘Sprit of the game’. Should they be required to be substituted out of the next test there are growing concerns as the sooking and hypocrisy has spread across the country in a manner worse than any pandemic in living memory.

[@Reneesillycar74]

Oh well done! 😂

[@bambit08]

I live in England and support the English cricket team. Bairstow was OUT - scrappy play from Bairstow not Australia. The English team should accept his mistake and play better - no 'blame' at all from me re Australia's decision. Well played Australia.

[@eddielong8663]

It'd be nice if more English supporters could have the same attitude as you. I think that deep down, most English would grudgingly accept that it was fair play. A touch cheeky and perhaps not 100% gentlemanly, but fair. It's now more about using any motivation whatsoever (even if it's a twisted source of motivation) as energy for the Barmy Army to use to their advantage. They'll spend the next Test Match using this incident as energy to rev up their own team while simultaneously trying to intimidate the Australians off balance.

[@therecanbeonlyone801]

​@@eddielong8663I'm pretty sure 90% of English fans think it was fair play. It's just been hyped up and the crowd were boozed up and creating an atmosphere. Aussie fans would be exactly the same. But it was just for an hour or so they felt like playing up.

[@Pctallies13]

I remember a test match a long time ago, South Africa vs England, where Broad deliberately stepped on the ball with his spikes a few times to "stop" it from rolling past him..

[@petepierre6458]

As did Anderson and they were told to stop doing by the match referee!

[@PrakharTalksSports]

England players are stretching this way too much. By constantly raking up the issue they are only putting pressure on themselves. They are forgetting that winning could be the best form of revenge. The team should have calmed down and let their performance do the talking. But they are doing just the opposite.

[@martinepstein3332]

The Bodyline series

[@daveross1638]

@@martinepstein3332 the 2005 ashes which former england players now have admitted to ball tampering

[@martinepstein3332]

@@daveross1638 no team has completely clean hands

[@XFactorIntroMaker]

It's the Aussies that keep banging on and on about it, nothing compares to sandpaper gate, the fact Australia pick and support those big cheats tells you everything about them.

[@Isleofskye]

Yes,it was crazy decision to put pressure and motivate themselves. STOP PRESS: ENGLAND wins 3rd Test STOP PRESS: ENGLAND is on the verge of victory with 8 hours of cricket left and the rain in Manchester saved them STOP PRESS: ENGLAND win a thrilling 5th Test............if only they had listened to you..

[@theflyingdropbear2009]

the beautiful irony in all this is, the MCC wrote the laws of the game, it was those same laws that rightly denied Starc of a catch when he grounded the ball when stopping himself from sliding, and it was those very laws that got Bairstow out when he wandered out of his crease while he was in a stupor. As for Broad's column piece, I am sure that it would make for some good toilet paper.

[@mrradman2986]

No-one has denied Bairstow had to be given out according to the laws of the game. He misjudged how the Aussies were playing the game. We are just disappointed that they found it necessary to take a wicket in a hard fought game in this manner rather than through the skill of the bowler. It denied what could have been an enthralling climax.

[@craigspender1710]

@@mrradman2986 And had Bairstow hit Marnus' wicket on day 3, there would not have been an appeal? BS! The Aussies were playing the game the same way Bairstow was playing... Just better.

[@mrradman2986]

@@craigspender1710 Not remotely comparable, he was deliberately batting out of his crease to try and nullify LBW. Just face it, it was a backhanded way to take a wicket and not worthy of this Aussie team.

[@peace331]

and scoring 4s in world cup final while taking single...is artistic piece of sportsmanship by gentlemen from england!

[@martinepstein3332]

How many football World Cups have Australia won?

[@davidbetts9332]

@peace331 please tell us how that was deliberate?

[@martinepstein3332]

@@davidbetts9332 Banks, Cohen, Wilson, Stiles, Jackie Charlton, Moore (capt), Ball, Hunt, Bobby Charlton, Hunt, Peters. Just Hurst and Bobby Charlton left now

[@hippo5346]

As an England fan , I didn`t have a problem with Bairstow`s dismissal . Its up to the umpires to decide on a dead ball , and Bairstow was stupid ! But why do you slag Broad for not walking , when virtually no other batter walks . Doesn`t matter if its a thick or a thin edge , they all leave it to the umpire , knowing they`ve hit it . If you cant figure this - you don`t know much about cricket ! You need to find a better example of bad sportsmanship , mate !

[@MrGhost-do1rw]

Stuart Board was not leaving because he was convinced that he was indeed the real 'FLASH'. He thought normal humans would have missed it definitely.

[@JitendraPatel-ci9bl]

Broady has to look himself in the mirror and he forgot to put the hearing aid on

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Brad Haddin did the same thing, same match. Nobody talks about that because the English aren’t whingers like you lot.

[@rahulbosebose1]

People forget Ben stokes asking Umpires to remove overthrow runs he scored during a tense World cup final. ... Not the whole English team... But Ben stokes honestly would have withdrawn the appeal, just like MS Dhoni did.

[@swatir2190]

Adam Gilchrist walked in a World Cup match. I don't remember the umpire giving him the out sign.

[@mohammad-A927]

Great throw Careyy

[@seanlander9321]

It’s the off-field repugnance of the English that is the issue. Abusing, threatening and assaulting Australian players on their way to lunch is an entirely novel English tactic.

[@frankmurphyburr3598]

That edge could be seen from the international space station WITHOUT zooming in with its powerful telescope 😅

[@bigbigbirdd]

Sky news is Australia hasn’t got the best reputation, and is often seen as a bit of a joke, but they are spot on here and have done it brilliantly!!

[@CoreyANeal2000]

I can't understand this as an American because I've never had to deal with the concepts or rules of this sport. But I can still understand what you're saying by the phrases attitude emotions music and tone used.

[@GREAT-INDIAN-TRAVELLER]

Its like shaging somebody else wife all the time and then somebody else suddenly shag urs ..you get absoluetly furious.

[@thejesusaurus6573]

@@GREAT-INDIAN-TRAVELLER the word is "shag" my good friend.

[@GREAT-INDIAN-TRAVELLER]

@@thejesusaurus6573 My bad..I was doing something else ...mistake corrected,thanks!

[@thejesusaurus6573]

if you hit a "foul tip" (in babseball terminology) and its caught you are still out in cricket. Sometimes those tips can be very fine, but as a batsman you usually know better than anyone else if you've hit it or not. Its considered the gentlemanly thing to do to admit you are out when you do this without the other team having to appeal to the umpire to declare you out. the event that percipited this an aussie put out an english batter at the end of an over (kind of like the time between one batter being up and the next in baseball). The english player assumed the ball was dead (incorrectly) and the aussie put him out in a "low skill" way. In general in cricket the idea is to beat the batsman with the ball, and taking an out in a tricky way having not truly beat the batsman with skill quite often the captain of the fielding side is expected to retract his teams appeal to the umpire (thus the batter not being out)

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@thejesusaurus6573 and in the very same match an Australian also edged the ball and also didn’t walk. Nobody talks about that, though, because only when an English player does it do we have to hear Aussies pontificating for the next decade.

[@antonmoller624]

I can hardly even remember that time when the Aussies tried to shine the match ball with a sheet of yellow sandpaper. Seems so long ago 😢

[@Lathi33]

i accept aussies are no saints. but your comment sounds like that was the first time a team was caught tampering the ball😂😂😂..

[@stubones]

Maybe go buy yourself some tissues 😆

[@JaseC80]

Or the times when Atherton had a pocket of dirt for rubbing into the ball, or the times England were using lollies to shine the ball. Oh can barely remember St Broad and Anderson using their sprigs on the ball(reported on multiple occasions). Or the run out of Elliot when Sidebottom took him out mid pitch and England still appealed for a run out. Oh hang on and that distant time England done the same thing to De Grandhomme and the three times the England coach stumped batsmen in the same manner as Carey. Annnd it was so long ago the first test of the 2023 Ashes when Moeen Ali was sanctioned for using ointment on the ball. All these in the name of the Father, the Son and the ‘true spirit of English hypocrisy’ ! Which team truly holds the mantle for cheating?

[@nandansharma3923]

And they were punished for that. Three of their players served the sentence.

[@collllllll]

​@@nandansharma3923correct. Smith, Warner did they time. I'm not Australian but that doesn't change that Bairstow was run out fair and square. He must take ownership and stop blaming the aussies for paying attention

[@WernerHNel]

From an outsider's perspective. If it was South Africa playing England and we made that stumping, I would have appealed as well. Had we been at the receiving end of that very same stumping I would have been bitchin and moanin just like England. That's how we all play and watch the game. Very very biased🤔!!! It just shows that we have a lot of passion for the game!

[@JobbyMathewjobbygm]

"Broad should practice what he preaches....!! " Excellent closing line !!

[@olivergrumitt2601]

I would like to apologize to the Australians for the reception they received at the MCC after the game. It is clear Johnny Bairstow made a mistake and left his crease too early. Therefore he was clearly out according to the rules of the game, fair and square and the Australian wicket keeper did nothing wrong at all, and did his job perfectly. Of course I am disappointed that, as an Englishman, England lost, but Australia won both close tests fairly and well done and well played to them. I can assure Australians we are not all whinging Poms! Still, I suppose cricket would not be cricket without some controversy - notably Bodyline, The ballgate scandal when the Australians tampered with the cricket ball against South Africa, the row England had with the umpire when playing Pakistan, Stuart Broad not walking when he was caught, England winning the World Cup In dubious circumstances in 2019, and the infamous underarm incident in 1981 when the Australians made certain New Zealand could not tie the match, an action described as disgraceful by the late Australian cricket player and broadcaster Ritchie Benaud. And not to mention all the sledging incidents.

[@dmann7004]

Ahhh, those were all good times😂😂

[@BanFreakLefties]

well said Pom

[@andrewdavie386]

When the dust settles, what I will remember most is the Lords members frothing at the mouth and yelling abuse at the Australian players, and even, so the report goes, resorting to physical assault (tripping). That is the "spirit of cricket" the members at Lords demonstrated to the world. And the English players piling on and accusing the Aussies of "cheating" when in fact it was the umpires who upheld an appeal. To me it shows very clearly the English character. Embarrassing, and total hypocrites.

[@petepierre6458]

Thanks and the super effort from Stokes didn't get the full recognition it deserved. That was a knock for the ages. I would also suggest, if Foakes was your keeper for both tests, England might well be sitting with a 2-0 lead so high do I rate him. To be perfectly honest, I cannot believe he isn't in the team, that stuns me.

[@Reneesillycar74]

Cheers!

[@akray1153]

Does anyone else remember what MS did when Ian Bell faced a similar situation 😌

[@SDH705838]

MS called him back, because he has class and integrity.

[@Imcrazyfornaruto]

He should not have because these English players won’t call back players in the similar situation ,, remember Paul collingwood and grant Elliot

[@prafulyadav661]

Msd is a legend but English players don't deserve that, I'm glad Carey did that and Cummins didn't withdraw the appeal.

[@venkatnair2052]

@@prafulyadav661 Both England and Australia deserves this. There have been enough cheats on both the sides for a long long time ... They think of Mankading as an act against the spirit of the game whereas edging a ball to slips and not walking off is "Umpire's call". Well, you decided not to walk off despite the appeal. Same way the bowler decides to run the non striker out. Both have done their part. Then it comes to the umpire, isn't it ?

[@prafulyadav661]

@@venkatnair2052 exactly

[@paragburman]

I like this Baldy.... Very patriotic ❤

[@johnhewett2525]

I wonder if anyone else remembers who came up with the body line bowling, it wouldn't have been the Poms or would it??? Now that was in the spirit of the game, wasn't it?

[@rajaprabhu5871]

Btw, Clark did the same thing vs india in 2008.

[@thrusta100]

And Lyon Adelaide 2015! Nigella llong fu$ked it up for NZ that test!...

[@subramanibalakrishnan6622]

Sydney Test Most Controversial Test India vs Australia 2007-08

[@av98]

Did their captain instigate sand paper too?.

[@mjshortstay609]

No but neither did Australias.

[@sticktothefacts8905]

The Aussies banned those cheats involved in sandpaper episode, yet the English handed out OBE's to those cheats involved in the mint cheating in 2005. Its clear how each country views cheating

[@venkatnair2052]

@@sticktothefacts8905 Hahaha, I remember Pietersen chewing those Jelly beans when India visited England in 2007 and Zaheer Khan pointed it out. These Brits, I tell you, are the biggest bunch of hypocrits !

[@KangaJack-ns9gd]

Not only Broad, but more so the one commentating and saw it first hand up close, Geoff Boycott. Now Boycott is whining for a written apology from the Aussies about the '' Spirit of the Game'', after that???

[@mervynhardy3693]

We see a lot of Bairstow and Broad and neither have much room to talk about the spirit of the game.

[@nevillewalker6299]

Looked like a good move to me. Out, no dount.

[@KRodBabay]

If Broad should've walked off with that edge, then every player who has nicked the ball and not walked should be held to that stabdard. It's the umpire's call

[@arunchaudhary1722]

If Broad should have walked off, so should have following things being done also (in 2008 Sydney test): 1. Symonds should have walked off because it was an edge. 2. Ponting should not have claimed a catch which he took on one bounce. 3. When third umpire make a stumping mistake, batsman (Symonds) should have walked off as well.

[@jimdaw65]

I don't mind any batsman standing there saying "it's up to the umpire" PROVIDING they don't smash the dressing-room up when the umpire gives them out when they haven't hit it. They can't have it both ways :-)

[@johnsmithwinkwink1704]

Ah so Poms are allowed to cheat, so nothing has changed.

[@KRodBabay]

@@arunchaudhary1722 absolutely 👏🏾

[@KRodBabay]

@@johnsmithwinkwink1704 if a person knows they've nicked the ball and don't walk, then by your definition it's cheating. At the end of the day, whether you get a faint nick or a thick edge, if you know then it's the same thing. I don't think it's cheating, I just find it funny how Australians of all fans got so upset about something that morally was acceptable to them.

[@northshorecouple1060]

Stuart Broad, the guy who threw a dead ball at Pakistan batsmen Zulqarnain Haider and broke his finger saying a stumping was the worst thing he’s seen on the field.

[@myalfie]

You go when the umpire tells you your out otherwise you stay at the crease!

[@shreeveda]

England team: We invented this game. So, we go by our own rules.

[@Jazzanaught]

Broad is one of those people you’d see drowning and just walk away.

[@andrewdavie386]

I'm not so sure I could put up with all his whining as he was doing so. I might save him just to make him stop earlier.

[@harshsinha5522]

Which is why as a sportman you must accept the defeat like a hero or it will come at you biting in your ass.

[@haydengarinduchesne9269]

That’s why you should never run your mouth off people will always find receipts with your name on it

[@thinkingbig2280]

Carey's run out/stumping was a great piece of cricket this whinging comes from being outclassed by the Aussies they are a great side.

[@thrusta100]

Very good , not great, margins are small, English threw it away...

[@andrewcastle4359]

Bairstow threw his wicket away deliberately. Has a search on betting sheets and why don't the poms blame the real enemy and traitor Jonny Bairstow. What was the Australian price before the'Stumping' and after? But then again those tried and emotional in the Long room can debate all they like and fact will keep 'MassDebating' till the series is over. Who coined the phrase- 'Whinging Pom's'

[@thomasisking]

As a retired cricketer who has played in several countries, Bairstow was a fool to take the risk of walking out of his crease. Simple as that.

[@dickybirdcch]

Broad lives in a glass house, he shouldn’t throw stones.

[@petercook7502]

Ultimately it simply it doesn't matter what anyone thinks it is what it is, however from now on in all forms of cricket ANYTHING is acceptable as long as its legal.... that's the legacy from this...

[@carlmanvers5009]

You are incorrect. There will always be legal dismissals a captain will recall a batsmen for. This changes very little. Perhaps if Bairstow hadn't made a schoolboy error none of this would be being discussed.

[@petercook7502]

@@carlmanvers5009 Well not unsurprisingly I disagree.... but time will tell.

[@multioptioned]

@@carlmanvers5009 That's insulting. No cricketing schoolboy batsman ever walked out of their crease before watching the ball and wicketkeeper or until the ball is dead! 😂

[@falseprofit4u]

Rules is Rules, Mitchell Stark's spectacular catch ruled not out ,,, umpire's decision is final. Bairstow only has himself to blame.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Well tell that to the Australian players who disgracefully surrounded the umpire after the Starc grounding in an attempt to intimidate him. Or pundits like McGrath who implied that the umpires were corrupt. Looking forward to Australian announcing the players involved in that intimidatory behaviour will be sent home early…..

[@SDH705838]

Graham Pollock - '' The Aussies only walk when there are no busses''. Such hypocrisy.

[@jimdaw65]

It's embarrassing for this Englishman to hear "the spirit of the game" invoked when it suits journalists and administrators. Sometimes cricket can be even more puffed-up and self-important than football ... and that takes some doing :-)

[@antonysteel8061]

As a Brit, it was within the rules. It wasn’t in the spirit of the beautiful game, just as Trevor Chappell rolling the ball along the ground wasn’t illegal. Unfortunately sportsmanship in modern sport is dead, and the games are all the poorer for it

[@samblack5313]

Riling the ball was dumb, sandpaper was dumber.. I see no issue here, just sore losers.

[@multioptioned]

Following the rules of cricket the poms wrote is not "in the spirit of the game"! 😂

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@multioptioned ironic response on a video whinging about Stuart Broad not following the spirit of the game ten years ago.

[@pla6454]

Thats not even close to a good analogy - in that game, it was a unique, pre-meditated, once off action. The NZers hadnt bowled underarm that same game.

[@petepierre6458]

Seriously, every season I play cricket, I must see 20 to 30 attempts of the keeper trying to stump batsmen exactly the same way & I would suggest this happens in all cricket playing countries. You get told as 10 year old not to leave the crease so please explain to me why or how this is poor sportsmanship? As Akash Chopra so brilliantly posted; ''If it is right as per the laws, how can it be against the spirit?''

[@stevebird7265]

I honestly cannot see what the Aussies did wrong! They broke no rules and therefore did not cheat! If the rule is wrong, change it!

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

The day before the umpire ruled a catch out because Starc grounded the ball. Their players surrounded the umpire in an attempt to intimidate him, their pundits raged on commentary. Glenn McGrath, for example both suggested that the umpire didn’t know the rules and that the umpire had been bribed. The English response to this Bairstow dismissal has been vastly more measured. The rules also stipulate that the spirit of the game should be followed. Intentionally dismissing an batsman who reasonably believed that the ball was dead would constitute a violation of that rule. In any event, Australian batters on numerous occasions in their innings wandered out of their crease when they believed the ball was dead and it hadn’t officially been called dead. If England had got an Australian out in that way, you can only imagine the reaction, considering the Australians are STILL upset that Broad didn’t walk ten years ago.

[@stevebird7265]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c As I said, if the rule is wrong, change it!.. Do not lambast the player for being clever enough to know the rules and use them to his teams advantage!

[@multioptioned]

The rule is not wrong. What change could be made? That you can leave your crease and not be stumped? If the keeper was standing up to the stumps what batsman would walk out of his crease without waiting for the umpire to call over or at least turn around and watch the ball and the keeper. Just because the keeper is standing back changes nothing.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@stevebird7265 So you want to move to a system where players stay in their creases and never leave to have a chat, because the ball could technically still be live?

[@nickthompson3339]

I’ve played with and against quite a few Aussie pros in my playing days, most of whom were (and probably still are) fantastic blokes - off the pitch - on the field of play they were, to a man, single minded, hateful bastards!!!! 😂🤣

[@Kaiserbill99]

Not sure what they put in the water in Australia but they are either dim witted or cannot be objective or both. Bairstow has only attempted to stump batsmen in "similar" fashion where batsmen have been batting outside their crease or their foot has left the crease in the process of facing a delivery i.e. over balanced. He has not watched a player leave a delivery, note the ball hit his gloves, mark his crease with his foot or bat and leave his crease, not to run, but to chat to his batting partner at the end of an over. Broad did not walk. If this was a measure of poor sportsmanship then every batsman for the last 30 years at least would have brought the game into disrepute. The onus is on the umpire to signal a batsman is out. It is immaterial whether it is a nick or a thick edge to third slip. The fact that the umpire in the Broad incident missed an obvious edge is not Broad's concern. More importantly the Australian team, most notably their captain, have acted like school kids letting off stink bombs at the back of assembly and getting away with it. The reputation of Australian cricket has been in the gutter since Sandpapergate and accusations of excessive sledging. This was an opportunity for Cummins to show some class and overrule the appeal or at least recall Bairstow. Instead he has brought the game into disrepute. Contrast the class with which Ben Stokes conducted the after match interviews with the smirking guilty school boy antics of Cummins. Is it not possible for Australia to pick a captain with a double digit IQ or someone who is at least somewhere "North" of monosyllabic?

[@danzydan2479]

Gilly always walked.

[@thefamilyman6507]

Now it feels like we are in Ashes .... 😂😂😂

[@stevensmith7460]

How it should be, luv it.

[@PomBare]

Lots of players didn't walk back then when they got a nick. The thing that left the Australians incredulous was the thickness of the nick. However if you look closely it wasn't that thick, it actually clips the keepers glove which exaggerates the trajectory of the ball. He should have walked, but without the keepers glove it would have been considered a regulation nick and consigned to the recycle bin with all the other non walkers of that day and age.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Brad Haddin also edged in the same game and didn’t walk. Nobody knows about that, though, because England haven’t spent the last ten years crying about it.

[@petefumberger5225]

Oh, bollocks to both of you. Broad's nick was as obvious as dog's balls, and the clip was about him having a go at sportsmanship with what Carey did, exceptionally legally and well within the rules of the game, not about Brad Haddin. You whinging poms just don't want to admit that Bairstow is a pillock for doing what he did. Or as someone wrote above, a dickhead. I say old chap, I might just go for a stroll down the pitch. Bring my tonic and gin please. And not long after he went for a much longer stroll back to the pavilion.

[@QuicknStraight]

He knew he nicked it. His head swiveled, like batters always do when they've hit it, and watched the ball into Clarke's hands.

[@QuicknStraight]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c Irrelevant Haddin isn't now taking the high moral ground, like Broad, is he? Broad should keep his gob shut.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@QuicknStraight Not irrelevant, but an example of Australia’s one rule for thee another for me attitude. Australia obsesses over things rival players did ten years ago, ignores it when their players do the same thing. The idea of the team of banned cheaters who disgracefully surrounded the umpire after the Starc grounding and then a day later conspired to get out a batter who believed the ball was dead between overs, is the same one trying to take the moral high ground, is ridiculous.

[@kaytee9097]

"you can't point the finger at us, you also did something wrong 10 years ago" Solid argument, chief. #Whataboutery #whatanIdiot

[@greamebamford6761]

Not as bad as taking sand paper out there ,let’s not forget that too quickly ,

[@simonwoods8809]

If Smith had two bits of sandpaper glued to the palms of his hands he wouldn't have dropped Stokes on 114. C'mon England, c'mon!

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

As anyone who has watched cricket for any time at all knows, the only things that matter are when things go against Australia.

[@arunchaudhary1722]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c I fail to understand how conveniently everybody forgets what Australia did in 2008 Sydney test against India.

[@KaranSharma-lm6eh]

@@arunchaudhary1722 that was stupid umpiring and ofcourse Australia had a role to play but similar roles were played by India back in 2004 series when Australia toured India, Mohammad Kaif gloved and refused to walk.

[@arunchaudhary1722]

@@KaranSharma-lm6eh exactly my point - nobody gives a fuck to spirit of the game...everybody plays to win - everybody.

[@72aakhan]

That was hundred percent fair play... The English should just get over it man..Rules are for all and for all the teams... England should learn first the spirit of the game and then preach others later..... A big Congrats- to the Australian team..a cricket fan from New York...

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Hahahaha. The same Australian team who tried to intimidate the umpire the day before for correctly ruling the Starc grounding not out? Huge spirit of the game moment that was.

[@Reneesillycar74]

Cheers, appreciate it ✌🏼

[@JoshOB21]

Dunno, Broad was given not out by the umpire in that example so therefore, he is not out and very much entitled not to walk.. what he did there is within the laws of the game, so therefore, within the spirit of the game. Just like the Carey stumping of Bairstow was... If you want to pull Broad up for playing outside the spirit of the game and also the rules, bring up the 2010 incident where he deliberately stood on the ball with his spikes. Aka Ball tampering...

[@ravibhoir136]

In which decade has Cricket been gentlemen's game. And the spirit of the game been withheld apart from few sporadic incidents of true sportsmanship from oppositions being shown that too spaced ages in between...Cricket has never been not so gentlemen's game....Right from the bodyline series to this day.

[@achatwithalex474]

I’m English and support the national team. However, remember that we’ve ‘abused’ the spirit of the game too in former Ashes series. Can’t be hypocrites. Yes it has ruined the test, but we can’t complain. One thing I would say. Our obsession with etiquette has to stop. It doesn’t exist. The Aussies are ruthless and, I mean this almost as a compliment, nasty when it counts. Don’t realise you could use the word ‘Poms’ on national TV.

[@David-lq8cx]

Was it Etiquette when Bairstow threw the ball at the stumps when Marnus was batting 2 days earlier? Or how about when Ollie pope ran out Colin De grandhomme for a similar incident and England didn't withdraw the appeal? But surely they would withdraw the appeal when Grant Elliot collied with Ryan Sidebottom after they collided.... nah they didn't. The hypocrites from the English media and players is astonishing.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

It shows the different in the measured, grown up response from the British media and the childish response from the Australian one.

[@Reneesillycar74]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c🤣

[@thejesusaurus6573]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c what british media are you watching?

[@samblack5313]

@user-mk5io6yt9c I just listened to Boycott spent 18 minutes explaining why this was worse than the body line series, and how this single act has completely destroyed cricket. Was abusing a national sporting team as they returned to the pavilion an “adult response” fella? Mature as they come.

[@sivakumar4053]

Few years ago, Ian Bell did very similar things and was given out just before lunch. And Dhoni agreed to overturn the decision based on the request that came from England team. Obviously, England team haven’t learnt from the mistake.

[@tomben6180]

Completely different situation. The fielder said it was a boundary, when it wasn’t, to be fair the fielder didn’t know. So England walked off for lunch and the bails were taken. MS Dhoni is a decent guy and did the right thing

[@Want0nS0up]

If the Starc catch had not been disallowed, I believe Cummins would have called Bairstow back. However, the patent unfairness of disallowing the catch from Starc was at the back of everyone’s mind at the time (with the exception of the Poms).

[@trevorannan6581]

Duckett was walking off, the umpire gave it out but Stokes instigated the conversation >.

[@venkatnair2052]

Englishmen were fine with Gill's catch of Green in WTC final. Fingers underneath or not, if the ball is touching the ground, its grounded and should be not out. I dont know why these "Spirit of the game" question arises only when England faces it ! double standards ...

[@BadDriversOz]

The Poms NEED to build a BRIDGE!

[@samain11]

Nobody whinges like an Aussie.

[@RaptorFaceRumble]

They did the same thing against NZ and Bairstow tried to do the same thing against Marnus...

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Well that’s just a lie, isn’t it. Bairstow tried to stump Marnus out when he was attempting to gain an advantage by playing well outside of his crease to negate the LBW. Stumpings like that have always been a completely acceptable part of cricket. Bairstow was playing within his crease and only left the crease when he could reasonably have expected the ball was dead, just like Australian batters do between overs. The difference is Australians will do anything to win, even if they already have a 90% chance of winning as in this situation, and other teams actually care about sportsmanship.

[@Charliethemash]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c well thats just a lie, isnt it. bairstow left the crease after the ball was thrown if he had turned around he would have seen that the ball was hurling towards his stumps and would have been able to get back in time or not leave. he would not have reasonably believed the ball dead if he turned around, only because he wasnt looking was he out. as a wicket keeper he should know of all people to look behind. dozy batting from bairstow

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@Charliethemash Batters aren’t required to look behind them before leaving the crease, just like all the dozens of times Australian batters did it in their innings they didn’t look behind them. The only difference is England weren’t trying to get them out and if they had inadvertently broken the stumps they wouldn’t have appealed.

[@11hitmanDagenius]

Rubbish, batsmen have to make sure they do not leave the crease till the ball is dead and be aware of where the ball is. Bairstow did throw at the stumps but failed, there's no way you can claim they wouldn't have done it its all conjecture. If england wicketkeeper did not try to get the aussie batsmen out in that way that's on them. It was a fair and square dismissal and all this debate about the spirit of cricket is irrelevant. End of story.

[@Charliethemash]

@@user-mk5io6yt9c batters quite literally are required to look behind them before leaving the crease. if you have ever batted in a cricket game you would know to always pay attention to the keeper. the Australian batters do look behind after letting the ball go through to the keeper every time and only walk out once the ball has been given to another fielder. giving the ball to another fielder indicates to the umpire that the ball is now dead. that is why the aussies walk away. you make the argument the aussies walked out multiple times without looking behind, which they didnt, but even if they did bairstow also did that the last 3 balls before that and didnt get run out. completely fair dismissal, good eyes up play from carey and poor awareness from bairstow. end of story

[@user-oj4xp2lh4d]

As an Englishman I accept the term " Whingeing Poms" without reservation. We are ok at dishing out but when the ball is on the other foot things change dramatically. Basically MCC members are a bunch of Tory toffs.

[@henrypulleine8750]

Not least the President. That notorious right winger, Stephen Fry.

[@Non-Stick_Pan]

As a Pom I find Sky News Australia's hosts very funny, I wish they were like this in the UK. What goes around comes around, it all works out even in the end.

[@albertmcmullen2669]

Tell us about the Borderline series in 1932-33. When the Australians complained "about the spirit of the Game," got their government involved and said they would boycott the Ashes series in England unless they promised to change the rules and stop throwing those nasty deliveries at their batsmen. Even after ninety years it rankles with the mob from Down Under, it all sounds indecent. No whining and whinging there?

[@jamescollins8397]

*"Tell us about the Borderline series in 1932-33"* - England's intent was clear, win at all/any costs.... intentional assault under the guise of bowling. In the words of English test cricketer William Voce (1932-33) who said of bodyline: *"We're not a bad side ... and if we don't beat you, we'll knock your bloody blocks off."* "Well bowled, Harold!" - Jardine's loud comment after Larwood had felled Bill Woodfull with a ball in the chest. “If this is allowed to continue batsmen will be compelled to wear baseball masks and heavy padding. Then the fast bowlers could fire away until they were worn out.” this quote from a newspaper column about the Bodyline series pretty much sums it up. "I would sooner return from Brisbane with a pair of ducks than a pair of broken ribs." - Bradman to a friend, according to Jack Fingleton.

[@heretichello8253]

LoL using body line tactics when there was no helmets was the greatest lows in cricket. And the English have the guts to preach about spirit of cricket. My a**😂

[@joschmoyo4532]

Body line is every Aussies excuse

[@88wardos]

to be clear the law wasn't changed so that bodyline was illegal (clearly it isn't given the way both sides bowled in this match) What changed was you couldn't have more than 2 players behind square on the leg side

[@jamescollins8397]

@@joschmoyo4532 Bodyline was a deliberate & violent reaction by England to an immensely talented Aussie team that they couldn't beat. Jardine even praised Larwood for rocketing balls into batters upper bodies.... so how does that fit with your whining "the spirit of the Game" narrative.

[@davidbrear8642]

From the unbiased comments of various former top players, it seems that international cricketeers have generally come to accept (by an unwritten convention) that once the ball has been pouched by a keeper standing back (after no shot has been played and the delivery was not already called a no-ball), then, if the striking batsman was safely planted in his crease at the moment the ball was pouched, it is treated as dead, even if the laws have not yet specified this. The Australians have watched Bairstow's casual behaviour at the crease and have clearly decided to ignore convention (without telling him) to get him back in the pavillion before he could get going. Bairstow was given out within the rules, but outside of the above convention, and this is what has caused all the furor. That said, Bairstow himself has also been trying to throw down the stumps in almost similar circumstances, but the striking batsmen haven't moved and he has so far missed his target. Stokes has stated that he would not have appealed in the same circumstances as Bairstow's disimissal, and would have withdrawn any appeal from his team-mates. Perhaps now the captains of test match sides should publicly-agree before matches as to whether they will be playing to the above 'dead ball convention,' or ignoring it?

[@shanthalakshmi2082]

Stumping is against the spirit of the game for some fools 😂🤔

[@gnkVLCT]

Or they could just follow the freaking rules and ensure they're in the crease when required to do so.... It's actually not hard, and it's part of the rules! Soon people are going to complain and whinge when they get a little bit of bat on the ball...."oh but please! It's just a bees dick amount of bat on ball!"

[@davidbrear8642]

@@gnkVLCT That's the point. Due to an unwritten agreement between international players, it has become unclear when batsman can safely leave their crease. Bairstow didn't bother to look at Carey (he must have heard the ball slam into his gloves) and he foolishly-assumed the dead-ball convention was being followed and that he was safe. However, since 'over' had not been called, the ball remained technically-live. As far as I'm aware, there's nothing in the laws of cricket about umpires signalling to batsman during an over exactly when they are permitted to leave their crease and meet in the middle for a chat or to do a bit of gardening.

[@nd6717]

@@davidbrear8642 And who are these ''top players with unbiased comments.''? And wtf is an unwritten convention? Any game is played within written down rules, not unwritten shi*t that players generally agree upon. Becoz people do something called '''die''. International cricketers who maybe accepted that unwritten convention are perhaps dead by now. So are the ones who may be thought running the non-striker out by the bowler is wrong. But times have changed. People are smarter now.

[@davidbrear8642]

@@nd6717 Your attitude is not really addressing what has happened here, but it is confirming the accuracy of my comments in which I ws politely pointing out why sides have been taken, but I am very carefully not taking sides. The old ('Whinging Poms' vs 'Cheating Aussies') furor has re-ignited, because international players have generally come to agree (but without ever putting their agreement in writing) that a ball effectively becomes dead in certain circumstances, even though it remains live according to the strict letter of the laws of cricket. This is not something from the dim and distant past. If you watch any recent test match, batsmen regularly walk out of their crease between deliveries without any signal from the umpires (perhaps not quite as casually as Bairstow did or in such keenly contested matches as the Ashes series) and keepers/fielders seldom try to throw down the stumps when this happens. FYI. I've watched various recent interviews on the Bairstow dismissal with highly-respected former top players who are neither English not Australian. e.g. Michael Holding genuinely thought that once the ball had entered the keeper's gloves when standing back to pace, if the batsman who didn't hit the ball is in his crease and the non-striking batsman is not trying to steal a run, then the ball is automatically dead.

[@phyllisseidl9117]

I remember playing as a kid and always trying to catch the runner out of their creese whilst bowling.

[@MrEwragg]

I remember this moment. It was pretty well chastised in England as well and Broad can never really hold any moral high ground because of it. I’m curious if Aussies feel similar about the dismissal in the last test?

[@IcanbePsycho]

The Poms are just sour!

[@unbaisedopinion1925]

Let's not forget, these are the SAME players that take sandpaper out into the middle. The very SAME people. They don't seem to care that their cricketers have dragged Australia's name through the sh@£, or that they are perceived as cheats EVERYWHERE except in Australia. All they care about, is winning.....cos it's the only time people talk about them. Other than that, on a world stage, Australia is completely irrelevant.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

Ironic comment on a video whinging about something an English player did ten years ago.

[@samblack5313]

@user-mk5io6yt9c Pointing out hypocrisy ain’t whinging, son. Your emotions are just making you see it that way.

[@user-mk5io6yt9c]

@@samblack5313 Whinging about Broad for a decade is whinging though, especially since Brad Haddin also nicked off in the very same match and also didn’t walk. If we want a more recent example of Australian hypocrisy let’s talk about the disgraceful scenes of Australian players surrounding the umpire in an attempt to intimidate him a day earlier after Starc grounded the ball.

[@needtorename6425]

Ashes is proven to be the greatest Cricketing rivalry of all times. Keep it up lads..

[@mdreazhosen5]

I think some Indian and Pakistani fans also prefer winning against their rival over a world cup trophy and they have significantly more number of cricket fans because of their population. But Ashes has a better/longer history.

[@nelsonschumacher7956]

in fairness, the column in question was most probably ghost written, like most articles that are supposedly written by sports people while they are still busy playing the game

[@ism739]

I watch and enjoy cricket from last 60 years of my life. Talk about sipirt of game, Probably English team forgot the Karachi test where they forced Umpires to carry the match in pitch darkness so they can win. Captain was Nasir Hussain. Remember sand in the pockets. English cricket is mirred with controversies after controversies through out the history. Sometimes I feel they don't play cricket they play politics. They are happy and jovial gentleman only if they are winning. As soon as they sense the defeat the colors started to change.

[@thefoursides1674]

if Broad should practice what he preaches, shouldn't the Australian cricket team?

[@pigslefats]

No-it's called karma-suck it up

[@polw3785]

The poor guy. He was only walking down the pitch to ask the umpire if the ball was dead or not. C’mon, be reasonable

[@markkeats9662]

Bodyline was a legal tactic and as England had the bowlers to implement it and won the Ashes, Australia whinged about it and got the Cricket laws changed as it ‘wasn’t in the spirit of the game’… 🤔

[@sandeshb4744]

I remember Brits had "run out" Srikant once and nobody complained. We thought Srikant should have been careful. So different rules for Brits, inventor of bodyline

[@paulsara9694]

Who would Rishi be backing in an England/ India match with his US green card.

[@mlsarchitect]

Israel of course.

[@thejesusaurus6573]

The white sox

[@andrewcavenagh9016]

Failing to walk is a rather different issue. Pre DRS, it was a policy many batsmen took to even out the bad umpiring decisions they inevitably also received. The Bairstow dismissal was more analagous to the Mankad ploy - within the rules but certainly distasteful. Neither is or was cheating, unlike the sand paper episode in SA..

[@Manish_3333]

"Spirit of cricket "- Brits crying after losing.

[@robbot9877]

you do know England have been caught ball tampering a number of times

[@Fed_Express]

Probably worse than Mankading. Mankading is a lawful tactic deployed to prevent a batsman taking an undue advantage by running before the delivery is bowled. In this instance Bairstow wasn’t trying to steal a run. Having a sad that, that fat orange ginger totally lost his mind thinking he’s on a garden stroll. Bloody idiot cost us the first match with his gloves and the second one with this dumb display of sporting awareness.

[@GM_-]

"Spirit of cricket" = English batsmen's security blanket.

[@stubones]

A ploy England have used and attempted to use several times. It’s not the same as Mankad in any way. Bairstow need to act like professional. Even school boys know not to wander out of the crease.

[@burnettriverclean]

Well England tried the same thing not long before Australia did it. That doesn't matter does it.

[@jeremychurch590]

Partial extract for the Poms if they need a little refresher: Respect your captain, team-mates, opponents and the authority of the umpires. Accept the umpire’s decision. Create a positive atmosphere by your own conduct, and encourage others to do likewise. Show self-discipline, even when things go against you. Congratulate the opposition on their successes, and enjoy those of your own team.

[@jimmyriddle5246]

Give Carey a knighthood

[@AGWUK]

I’d prefer deportation to the colonies, but as that’s where he lives that option is gone.

[@djlewis5149]

To go with the VC for Lyon?

[@samblack5313]

@AGWUK It would be an AWFUL shame to get ‘deported’ to a place with sun, sand, and beautiful women…. 😂

[@djlewis5149]

@@samblack5313 New Zealand? It’s the last bit that confirmed it

[@samblack5313]

@djlewis5149 Must be… 😂