Just Stay In Your Crease - 2nd Ashes Test Controversy Review

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10 ай бұрын

Just stay in your crease next time pls Johnny so we can enjoy the cricket in peace.
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@hippo5346
@hippo5346 10 ай бұрын
As an England fan , I have absolutely no problem with Bairstow`s dismissal . It`s up to the umpires to decide whether the ball is dead or not . During my playing days , as a keeper , I tried many times to get batsmen out in this way - but I never once managed to find anyone dopey enough to fall for it - and that`s village cricket ! For a test player to fall for it is plain crazy . England seem to be blurring the lines between positivity and stupidity during this series . It`s the Ashes , guys . Sharpen up ! People only talk about "the spirit of cricket" , when it suits their argument . In reality , it doesn`t exist .
@darrenjpeters
@darrenjpeters 10 ай бұрын
Seems to me as though most players and ex players feel as though it was a legitimate dismissal. It's only idiots and attention seekers that have never played the game, plus the odd politician trying to curry favour with the masses that think there was anything wrong with it.
@orwellboy1958
@orwellboy1958 10 ай бұрын
The best we can hope for is that Bairstow has learned his lesson.
@langdalepaul
@langdalepaul 10 ай бұрын
The spirit of the game is just another way of saying sportsmanship. Are you really saying that sportsmanship doesn’t or shouldn’t exist?
@DunningKrugerJnr
@DunningKrugerJnr 10 ай бұрын
And when the venal cnuts at Sky/NewsCorp promote outrage for their own profits…**** Stokes, Bairstow, Broad, Bazball, Baz and every whingeing English sod who abused their privilege at Lords 😠
@darrenjpeters
@darrenjpeters 10 ай бұрын
@@langdalepaul The thing is, the whole concept of sportsmanship is rather vague and tenuous, and most sportsmen have crossed the line at some point in their careers. It makes it difficult to take the moral high ground when you are just as guilty of sharp practices as everybody else.
@kriskay5020
@kriskay5020 10 ай бұрын
"Don't leave your crease" will be remembered for a while now
@robwri9544
@robwri9544 10 ай бұрын
Maybe, maybe not. It is impossible to learn from a mistake without being willing to admit that you made one. Jonny Bairstow hasn't shown any sign of taking responsibility for a situation which arose from his nonchalance and this makes me think he may do it again.
@mazzolaro1
@mazzolaro1 10 ай бұрын
​@@robwri9544He did this before some other test match mate
@HemanthKumarJadhav
@HemanthKumarJadhav 10 ай бұрын
Even in from U-11 our coaches taught us to always stay in your crease when the ball is in play. That is just basics of cricket, to stay in your crease and protect your stumps.
@juvauniegayle9018
@juvauniegayle9018 10 ай бұрын
It's the fact that he didn't look behind himself to see if the ball was dead. That was a habit drilled into every u11 schoolboy. Bairstow is a doosie individual 😂
@twistedsparky06
@twistedsparky06 10 ай бұрын
English fan here-The moment i saw this live I knew it was out, nothing wrong with it. I enjoyed the comical grounding of Broad's bat for the rest of the day after the event but everything else was out of line. Spirit of Cricket as discussed is usually rolled out when laws cannot back the argument. Bowling under arm feels against the spirit but this was not. Nobody complained when pope ran out Colin de Grandhomme after he went walkabout following an LBW appeal last year, Broad did not walk when he knew he edged the ball in an Ashes test and as we have seen Mcullum and every body else has a history of the same thing. Bairstow tried to do this in the same match and we have seen him do a similar thing verses Patel in a county game. Here Bairstow gets credit but not Carey, it is rank hypocracy. Its been close but Australlia have been better (as much as it pains me to say it) and without many of their big guns firing consistently. Arogance on our part I feel also contributed to the loss in the first test match. I understand they wanted to protect Anderson from batting although I personally believe nobody should be protected, if they need to be do not play them. We still had Root in and Anderson was not even due yet. 393 was not enough verses this or Many other Australlia teams of years gone by. In the first innings you try to get as big a lead a you can, possibly avoiding the need to bat twice. I think the English arrogance on the back of Baz ball left them feeling that they could skittle out australlia with relative ease.
@Gorilla_warfare
@Gorilla_warfare 10 ай бұрын
Great point on the England declaration first test, first innings. I get it if it’s 10 and 11 batting, but joe root on 100 odd smashing it everywhere, it just seemed a careless dismissal. Let him bat till he’s out and they win the test. Was a head scratcher. England have been so close but I think they are broken psychologically now. It’s a shame the series has become so hostile, but it sure is compelling!!
@twistedsparky06
@twistedsparky06 10 ай бұрын
@@Gorilla_warfare its a storm in a tea cup really, added some spice. Don't think it is as hostile as the media are making out or the Egland team have to cover their mistakes. 13 dropped catches and a missed stumping and again this afternoon we are throwing away a great position. Dropping marsh is never a good thing. He can score so quickly and I felt this at the time.
@Jlino77
@Jlino77 10 ай бұрын
Great video mate, I’d like to point out to that isn’t spoke much about . As bairstow leaves his crease, at the non strikers end stokes turns around grounds his bat and is looking at the umpire. Safe to say he didn’t think the ball was dead
@ozwunder69
@ozwunder69 10 ай бұрын
That was valid till 7 years ago then the rulebook changed.. petals can scuk it up have a wnak say sorry to mother and harden the fc UK up
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 10 ай бұрын
He wasn't thinking of much at all I suspect .
@thefury4424
@thefury4424 10 ай бұрын
Well spotted
@mswalker70
@mswalker70 10 ай бұрын
Correct. I noticed that myself. The other important point was that the ball had left Carey’s glove before Bairstow had even left his crease. It’s just plain out!
@owenbarnes773
@owenbarnes773 10 ай бұрын
looks like the ball left Carey's gloves before Bairstow left the crease ... further supporting the concept that the game was still live
@yousufftayyab
@yousufftayyab 10 ай бұрын
mate this video was absolutely gold. last clip perfectly highlighted the hypocrisy of english cricket and bairstow, and how all this drama takes away what really happened - a fantastic game of cricket. to be honest i forgot about how well josh tongue bowled all because of this, and really makes me think twice about some players i had respect for, baz being one and im saying this as a kiwi
@aawe1
@aawe1 10 ай бұрын
The clip is from Yorkshire vs. Nottingham in a County Championship match in 2014; the batsman was Samit Patel.
@quickler1959
@quickler1959 10 ай бұрын
100%. As a fellow kiwi, Baz's comments have left me eye rolling. It's not like he hasn't tried that same dismissal a dozen times in his career. I get that you have to be supportive of your team and get around your boys, but seriously 🙄
@richardportelli1983
@richardportelli1983 10 ай бұрын
They just can't take it when it happens to them. Typical english
@Skwiddd
@Skwiddd 10 ай бұрын
To be entirely fair to Bairstow. I don’t think he’s actually said much about the whole incident. He accepted the ruling and walked off. I’m an Aussie and he seems to be the one quietest about the whole affair.
@matthewrowell8518
@matthewrowell8518 10 ай бұрын
The sad part is. I like Baz for doing it. Shows how a alert a keeper he was. Keeping his finger on the pulse and his team in the game. Just very disappointing he didn’t come out and say bairstow should of done better. He knows it and we know it. All it would of taken instead they are playing victim to a white wash in the series
@ra5aus
@ra5aus 10 ай бұрын
It says in the preamble to the MCC rules talking about the spirit of the game it says "play hard & play fair" that's exactly what Australia did. It also says "Respect your opposition and the umpires" & "abide by the umpires decision" neither of which England have done, so it's England who aren't playing in the spirit of the game.
@jonescrusher1
@jonescrusher1 10 ай бұрын
In what way have England not respected or abided by the decision?
@ra5aus
@ra5aus 10 ай бұрын
@@jonescrusher1 You are kidding aren't you surely, all they done since the game finished is whinge & whinge about it, so they don't abide by it, they've slurred their opposition by insinuating they've cheated so they've shown no respect to their opposition for clever well through out & executed cricket.
@ContactReal
@ContactReal 10 ай бұрын
Spirit of the game is always thrown around when it works for the losing side.
@BJMStan
@BJMStan 10 ай бұрын
Love how Carey couldn’t predict the outcome as he released the ball. Watch his in-flight reaction!
@RaptorFaceRumble
@RaptorFaceRumble 10 ай бұрын
The fact that Bairstow tried the same thing with Marnus in the previous innings baffles me.
@XaviRonaldo0
@XaviRonaldo0 10 ай бұрын
Did you watch Stokes' answer when asked about it at his press conference? Totally laughable response!
@hillbilly3772
@hillbilly3772 10 ай бұрын
Marnus was batting out of his crease, attempting to take lbw out of the game. This makes it incomparable. Bairstow still made a pretty dumb error though.
@jamesm2099
@jamesm2099 10 ай бұрын
Schoolboy error moving out of your crease.
@wayinfront1
@wayinfront1 10 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. And I'm an England fan. Bairstow was criminally careless (not for the first time). Carey did nothing wrong at all.
@gautamv952
@gautamv952 10 ай бұрын
Looking at all those replays, it did seem a bit too casual, almost arrogant, on the part of Bairstow to just walk off without checking behind him first.
@chrispetritsch1291
@chrispetritsch1291 10 ай бұрын
I believe Stokes saying he would have recalled a batsman if the shoe was on the other foot is just a plain lie!
@alne53
@alne53 10 ай бұрын
English fan here and like the rest of your channel this is great content. As you and all other aussies have pointed out, the side and more specifically bairstow have no leg to stand on when it comes to the "spirit of cricket". When the stumping happened my heart dropped, and it felt unfair - after a few minutes of processing, i realised it was unfair for bairstow to be such a dozey git in such a vital innings. Unfortunately a sizable and vocal section of english fans/pundits went the tribalistic and delusional route instead. I love the conflict as much as the next fan but not when it results in second-hand embarrassment. On another note, scrap the MCC. Bunch of fossils who come from the same traditions and conceptions around the game that have led to the damning report.
@pablojescobar3400
@pablojescobar3400 10 ай бұрын
Yeah hearing today the MCC abused Steve Smiths Mother so bad she had to leave and they made an 11 year old son of one of the staffers cry, that he had to be consoled by the entire team imho should all be banned forever from any stadium. Its beyond disgusting anywhere but especially at a Cricket game. That is probably the worst case of going against the spirit of the game I've ever heard of.
@emilchandran546
@emilchandran546 10 ай бұрын
As an Aussie I had the exact same reaction. Our coverage didn’t show Carey throw the ball, we only heard the stumps break and Bairstow looking shocked. My first thought was “oooh, that’s a bit desperate. Not sure about that.” But the replays began to give a bit of context. When I saw it was all one motion I was satisfied that it was within the spirit of the game, as intangible as that is. But I still felt bad for Bairstow, a player I really like btw. But then more replays showed him walking from his ground, almost immediately, without checking the ball or umpire multiple, times that over. I then felt Bairstow, as a batsman, should have known better. Then the replay of him trying the same with Marnus on day 2, and I mean at this point, as a wicketkeeper, he has no leg to stand on to criticise Carey or the Australians. The stuff Broad was doing was vintage and the sort of thing we love to hate here. A but of theatre, same with the crowd chanting. It soon gets tired however. But the lunch incident in the longroom was when it dawned on me as a viewer that this dismissal had seemingly cut way deeper than it ought to have. I have seen crowds do some pretty sad things here in Australia, but none claimed to be custodians of the game. I honestly did expect better of those members. The post match stuff was also a bit of a shocker. I mean for a side that’s lost two tests in a row, won both tosses and had the better of the conditions, it must be an attempt at distraction. Stokes as captain didn’t congratulate his competition, or really do any reflection on where his side has gone wrong in losing the first two tests. Not a lot of contrition was shown. For me this also comes under the “spirit of the game.” I think it’s a shame. This tactic may have ignited the series with tensions high. But I hope an earnest attempt is made by the English to adjust their game because I want to see a good competition.
@daniello9155
@daniello9155 10 ай бұрын
Aus' here, both teams have played incredible games, its just unfortunate that a great match ended this way. I wouldnt do it myself. This cant be compared to mankading as the player is trying to gain an advantage. You can tell by Bairstow's actions that he thought the ball was dead. To me its a pretty shitty way to take a wicket, even if its 'legal' I would have thought that a warning from the wicket keeper should have been given first. Cant wait for tomorrow night. I would like to see England win the next two tests and what a fifth test we would have. Lets see.
@NetworkGeek280
@NetworkGeek280 10 ай бұрын
I think this is a measure of maturity. I seem to recall the Aussie general public and media got over the Starc catch pretty quickly, not 24hours prior.
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 10 ай бұрын
@@NetworkGeek280 well, the starc catch was less match definining and didnt hurt aussie's chances as much as this baistow one did. If the starc catch, led to aussies losing, i am sure, the aussie public and media wont get over the catch as quickly.
@thebuff4120
@thebuff4120 10 ай бұрын
Goes down as one of the great stumping's in cricket!! Brilliant work by Carey.
@benhardcastle2305
@benhardcastle2305 10 ай бұрын
😂 no it doesn’t it just goes down as extreme controversy.
@pablojescobar3400
@pablojescobar3400 10 ай бұрын
It's the greatest test wicket in history. Which one has been celebrated by the whole world and most of England for days after? Only some extremely salty sooks that dont understand the rules they wrote are upset like Benny
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 10 ай бұрын
@@pablojescobar3400 It is NOT the greatest test wicket. It is definitely one of the funniest.
@darrenjpeters
@darrenjpeters 10 ай бұрын
Hundred percent agree. He might be a bit dozy and prone to a brain fart, but Bairstow is dangerous. On a deck that flat, he and Stokes could easily have chased that total. Super work by Carey, he's having a blinder of a series with the gloves.
@pablojescobar3400
@pablojescobar3400 10 ай бұрын
@@silverrahul Nah its the GOAT. Couldn't of made an entire country cry if you tried. Its also stopped them from being so chummy. It was getting cringe the amount of smiling and joking. This is the fucking Ashes. It's the highest prize in Cricket. Carey may be the GOAT sports person after this. What a man. Maybe even Nobel Prize winner. Second coming of Jesus too
@aawe1
@aawe1 10 ай бұрын
That's a brilliant clip at the end
@kavanagharchie
@kavanagharchie 10 ай бұрын
Really don't get why people have an issue with this, he didn't stay in his crease, got stumped, he's out. Its like at the other end people crying because their batsmen can't cheat and run early
@paulgill2042
@paulgill2042 10 ай бұрын
McCullum was on the NZ SEN cricket show and was asked about the 'beers' comment. To paraphrase, he basically said that he knew it would play well in the English media and more or less laughed it off as that. I think they're just using it as a tool to try to get the crowds onside. They should be pissed off at Bairstow for making a mistake usually only 10yr olds make and then learn their lesson. Also, the 'Spirit of Cricket' is clearly defined in the preamble to the laws. It states that the umpires authority is to be respected. No more, no less.
@kiz5562
@kiz5562 9 ай бұрын
looks bad now, considering our media here in Aus blew up that story recently about the English team refusing to have drinks with the Aus boys at the end of the Oval test last week. I liked McCullum as a batsman when he was playing, but he shot himself in the foot with that comment. Didnt he take 10yrs to apologise for that Murali runout he did? Maybe Carey/Cummins will backtrack on the stumping in 2033 sometime haha.
@ryanmueck832
@ryanmueck832 10 ай бұрын
You calling the comments of Stokes and McCullum a smokescreen was so spot on for me, Bazball was supposed to wipe the Aussies away like a smear and return the Ashes to England in a blaze of glory. The hype was built up into an absolute frenzy to the point where neither the team, nor the English public can accept the simple truth: your team just isn’t as good as ours is and hasn’t been for a long time.
@harjot21
@harjot21 10 ай бұрын
Bazball was always going to fail against well prepared teams.
@nicolasdubus669
@nicolasdubus669 10 ай бұрын
That's an English problem in every sports since many years and that's why 1/ they don't win titles 2/ they're judged arrogant by every one
@jacobburtonswfc
@jacobburtonswfc 10 ай бұрын
If Australia are so wonderful why did they use sandpaper to alter the condition of the ball in a test?
@nicolasdubus669
@nicolasdubus669 10 ай бұрын
@@jacobburtonswfc such a gentlemen sport. I didn't knew much about cricket but now everyone is pointing the cheating of everyone and as I said ... such a gentlemen sport
@jacobburtonswfc
@jacobburtonswfc 10 ай бұрын
@@ryanmueck832 Only 5 years ago with two of the cheats still playing
@seppomuppit
@seppomuppit 10 ай бұрын
It is tragic that such a good game is overshadowed by these complaints. So many legends of the game have already come out and said Bairstow dropped the ball and should have known better. You're probably right that this is just a tactic by the English to get their fans and team fired up to do better than they have been so far.
@matthewlay9221
@matthewlay9221 10 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people have lost a lot of respect for Brendan McCullum after this. I know I have.
@Darfaultner
@Darfaultner 10 ай бұрын
He never had my respect. He's been riding a high horse for decades. Typical narcissist.
@kiz5562
@kiz5562 9 ай бұрын
took him 10yrs to apologise for the Murali run-out. Maybe in 2033, we'll hear Carey backtrack on the stumping haha. English media are such hypocrites.
@aawe1
@aawe1 10 ай бұрын
The clip is from Yorkshire vs. Nottingham in a County Championship match in 2014; the batsman was Samit Patel.
@striker44
@striker44 10 ай бұрын
1981 Eng-India test, Kris Srikanth on his debut was run out by Embury in a similar fashion to Bairstow. English captain did not recall Srikanth. Where was the spirit of the game then? When convenient you call the "spirit of the game", rest of the time the spirit goes into hiding. 😂
@wisedupearly3998
@wisedupearly3998 10 ай бұрын
Buy the Brits a rule book each. They need to stop embarrassing themselves. As for McCullum, no one is going to ask him for a beer.
@antrimlariot2386
@antrimlariot2386 10 ай бұрын
The MCC should sign up for a subscription too.
@catherinewillis5414
@catherinewillis5414 10 ай бұрын
This is by far the clearest and most accurate summary that I've seen or heard. Thank you!
@timblizzard4226
@timblizzard4226 10 ай бұрын
Completely agree, excellent video
@Amac1218
@Amac1218 10 ай бұрын
One point of the incedent that doesn't get mentioned is that when the stumps are hit, greene is only about a foot away from Bairstow, halfway down the pitch, I could understand if he was grabbing his hat back from the ump, but it just shows how fast Bairstow left his crease. Also it's bewildering that Bairstow didn't look back to see where the ball had gone at anytime. What if Carey had of fumbled the ball? He could have missed potential byes.
@cameramanjack3854
@cameramanjack3854 10 ай бұрын
I can’t stop laughing every time I see Renshaw appealing to an invisible umpire at square leg
@daveannis2280
@daveannis2280 10 ай бұрын
English ex-cricketer here. Bairstow was 100% out. Well spotted by the keeper. As a batsman it's drilled into you to check where the ball is before leaving your crease. Bairstow made a schoolboy error and failed to do this.
@thatsbollox
@thatsbollox 10 ай бұрын
I think Johnny thought it was him that decides when the ball is dead. He also believed it was him that decides when it is end of the over. All he needs to do is scratch at his crease. He didnt even look back. He just took off. Carey threw it before he had even walked out of his crease. He managed to achieve what Bairstow tried to do, but couldnt. It is a fairly common thing in lower grade cricket, and many keepers attempt the stumping at test level...it just does not often work at test level because the batsmen have been around long enough to know better. It was a terrific piece of wicket keeping. Too much silly emotion took over. Carey has had a v v good series so far. Bairstow has been awful. If that ball hit the stumps and went to the boundary, they would take the 4 runs 100%, and the crowd would have been very happy.
@jed2055
@jed2055 10 ай бұрын
@thatsbollox Good summary; well thought out and written. As I maintain,, no controversy here.
@fedaed
@fedaed 10 ай бұрын
My opinion on the issue of "Mankanding" is that it is cheating for the batsman to advance before the ball is bowled, as that gives him a clear head start and thus an advantage in avoiding being run out . Run out margins are often in inches and therefore advancing before the ball is bowled is cheating. Therefore I cannot fathom why the bowler running out a batsman in this manner should be frowned upon. The bowler is legitimately running out a batsman who has tried to cheat.
@XaviRonaldo0
@XaviRonaldo0 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Although according to the spirit of the game you're supposed to give a warning.
@fedaed
@fedaed 10 ай бұрын
I would offer the view that the "spirit of cricket" is better served if the batter not cheat in the first place? Is there no onus on the batter to be mindful of :"the spirit of cricket"?
@bigjigyeah
@bigjigyeah 10 ай бұрын
That clip at the end.. Chef's kiss lol
@chrisbrannigan6210
@chrisbrannigan6210 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely nailed it. Tounge was fantastic in his debut Ashes test. Almost unplayable for those few devastating overs. What a great addition, especially with Broad and Anderson looking fairly creaky in the joints. Can we talk about Pat Cummin's double wicket over, with arguably the best ball of the series to Brook? Starc's return to the side adding some heat to the attack? Lyon batting with a series ending calf injury? Stokes's innings nearly won the match, and without another top order batter at the other end, had to carry the run chase himself. Warner and Smith are still in the Australian side, and it's taken me a while to be ok with that as an Australian. But this team feels like the most "fair" team we've had in a years.
@Vendarize
@Vendarize 10 ай бұрын
Showed my 11 year old this, he's played for 5 years, and he instantly says out! Also we're from NZ so don't have a foot in either camp. Peace
@darrenheading4057
@darrenheading4057 10 ай бұрын
I got out stumped when playing indoor cricket for leaving my crease due to me missing my shot and being frustrated with myself for playing a poor shot. My instant reaction when stumped was "that can't be right," but when I had a second or two to think about it, I knew I was out. I have never left my crease again in the same manner and realise it is my responsibility as a batter to be aware of my position in the crease at all times.
@canwelook
@canwelook 10 ай бұрын
Very good summary. And thank you for pointing out the disgraceful comments of Bairstow, Stokes and McCullum (I'd add Broad) which were certainly not in the spirit of the game.
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 10 ай бұрын
say what you want, but broad's antics were hilarious
@davidfletcher6064
@davidfletcher6064 10 ай бұрын
Is anyone taking the English side in this 'debate' seriously suggesting that if Alex Carey and fumbled the ball and Ben Stokes had called Jonny Bairstow through for a run, that Jonny would have declined and politely informed Ben that as far as he was concerned the ball was dead! Of course not.
@piglos
@piglos 10 ай бұрын
Haha
@michelleobama3362
@michelleobama3362 10 ай бұрын
That’s such a good point, yet to see anyone bring that up. Its only in the spirit of the game if it affects the batting side and the English.
@Krapvag
@Krapvag 10 ай бұрын
@@michelleobama3362 no it isn't, just because they messed up doesn't mean they don't then get punished for it
@russdy1982
@russdy1982 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@harperlee6383
@harperlee6383 10 ай бұрын
By calling into question of the spirit of the game, Stokes and McCallum violated it. He's put into question Cummin's captaincy by not withdrawing the appeal. That's not in the spirit of their game. They should accept all decisions made by the umpires and congratulate their opponents on their success.
@crusaders9861
@crusaders9861 10 ай бұрын
I agree that the dismissal was within the rules but it was poor by Cummins. It is sporting to congratulate the winning team but you can’t congratulate that particular moment
@anthonypirera7598
@anthonypirera7598 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great wrap up. I would of liked to hear your first edit
@Crudmonkey211
@Crudmonkey211 10 ай бұрын
It’s useful to watch the previous few overs of Bairstow leaving his crease early without checking behind him. Bairstow as a WK should know better. In fact he does, as he tried the same thing in the same game. Carey is just the far better keeper.
@JC-rc1tw
@JC-rc1tw 10 ай бұрын
The Spirit of Cricket - distilled with English tears and aged in vinegar barrels.
@jacksonconstantine5740
@jacksonconstantine5740 10 ай бұрын
Is that how you justify Aussie’s long history of cheating to win?
@JC-rc1tw
@JC-rc1tw 10 ай бұрын
@@jacksonconstantine5740 only 1 documented instance of cheating as far as I can recall. Unlike the English, of course, who have never used anything, such as mints, to tamper with the ball.
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 10 ай бұрын
@@jacksonconstantine5740 get over yourself . Every major team in the history of cricket has cheated or tried to cheat, including your own team
@jacksonconstantine5740
@jacksonconstantine5740 10 ай бұрын
@@silverrahul when? Bodyline? Everyone knows Australia are perpetual cheaters, it’s part of your DNA. Just accept it.
@justinszabo5205
@justinszabo5205 10 ай бұрын
McCollum knows he is 3 games from being out of a job
@tomblack6965
@tomblack6965 10 ай бұрын
THE best explanation I have seen for this ridiculous imbroglio. Thank you.
@dennisleighton2812
@dennisleighton2812 10 ай бұрын
Excellent description and analysis. Thank you for providing a well-balanced perspective, based on solid research and a well-written report.
@owenbarnes773
@owenbarnes773 10 ай бұрын
IF Stokes wouldn't want to win a game that way, WTF is Bairstow doing trying to get Labuschagne out in precisely the same way, in the same test 😱 ... pure, unadulterated bull💩 and sour🍇
@Jacka101
@Jacka101 10 ай бұрын
loved that clip at the end
@jonlimon_
@jonlimon_ 10 ай бұрын
really loving your stuff mate, thanks for another great video
@garthwmangan
@garthwmangan 10 ай бұрын
Was looking forward to your take on this. Great upload.
@dmcinne2
@dmcinne2 10 ай бұрын
Excellent content and exlained very well. I like the "Smokescreen" piece and agree that you maybe right, to move the focus of the media away from the poor England performance. Well done, and shame on MCC behaviour, appaulling spirit of cricket.
@AlexSmith-gr4hp
@AlexSmith-gr4hp 10 ай бұрын
The “spirit of the game” is effectively the etiquette of the game, or the unspoken rules, built around concepts of fair competition. It definitely exists. You see it in players that walk or don’t when they’re clearly out and how their reputations are affected. Run outs by bowlers and batsmen handling the ball are other examples of it. The etiquette to this style of stumping is clearly on display by all teams as being acceptable. The only two times it hasn’t been is this match and when England were in the West Indies. The reason those two matches stand out as exceptions were because of an emotionally charged home crowd. But this breaches a worse rule, an unequal set of rules based on where a match is played and how invested the fans are. Different rules for home sides is a worse breach of any “spirit of cricket”. So, there’s no question this stumping is in the rules, it’s then arguable if there’s such a thing as etiquette but I believe there is. The last is whether the etiquette is conducted consistently, and all the evidence points to this being an acceptable form of dismissal in most cases attempted by all teams, the only exceptions to it being when passionate home crowds come into play. So essentially, arguing for an exception to the rule on the basis of home team passion by crying “spirit of the game” is itself against the “spirit of the game”
@XaviRonaldo0
@XaviRonaldo0 10 ай бұрын
Of course Australia aren't immune to going against the spirit of the game. That underarm delivery by Trev Chappel was an absolute disgrace and the Kiwis still aren't over it over 40 years later and I don't really blame them. Within the laws of the game, yes. But, that's only because ODI cricket was pretty new at the time and they probably never foresaw something like this happening. This incident though is completely different. Carey had every right to do what he did against a batsman who was brain-dead. I'm Australian btw
@dinneo1435
@dinneo1435 10 ай бұрын
And how England have managed to divert the attention from bazball and 0-2 scoreline is just magnificent
@grantogden6271
@grantogden6271 10 ай бұрын
Got out in a similar fashion as a 15 yo playing my 1st year of senior cricket...was embarrassed at MY mistake and never did it again.
@surojitchowdhuri3337
@surojitchowdhuri3337 10 ай бұрын
Hands down the best analysis of the incident on the Internet.. well done mate, cheers!
@user-hm4yw8hd1b
@user-hm4yw8hd1b 10 ай бұрын
The "spirit of the game" is surely learning, understanding and respecting the rules and accepting the umpires decision. England and Bairstow demonstrate none of this. WE shed OUR tears as 8 year olds In backyards and at school To leave your ground say "wicket leave" It's how WE learnt THEIR rule.
@owmyhands
@owmyhands 10 ай бұрын
Every word of this - every single word! - is spot on. Great vid.
@strangenameforaband342
@strangenameforaband342 10 ай бұрын
Surely it's in the spirit of cricket to protect your wicket, it's something you can control. So something personal like Stokes was talking about. So was Bairstow acting in the spirit of cricket? You can go on with this sort of stuff. Great video mate.
@guyfanno1
@guyfanno1 10 ай бұрын
Layed it out straight. Well done. I thought the spirit of the game was accepting the umpires call and getting on with the game.
@friedbeans047
@friedbeans047 10 ай бұрын
Nice video, this helps to clear things up for many people who are confused with the bairstow wicket.
@electronwave4551
@electronwave4551 10 ай бұрын
It seems to me Bairstow did not leave the crease thinking the umpire had called 'over' or the ball as presumed dead. He had the habit of walking down the pitch to pad-down the spot of the last delivery. To do that he has to keep a mental image of the impact point. This image fades quickly, so he trots off soon as he can. When he was stumped, he trotted off without taking care if the ball was actually alive. In the video you can see Bairstow's eyes are fixed on the area of the last delivery and mindlessly walks toward it. Carey (or others) had previously observed Bairstow's habit. Bairstow lost situational awareness. He did not really know where the ball actually was (he assumed he knew), didn't know what Carey was doing (assumed he knew), and wasn't really sure what he himself was doing (in thinking a foot scrape behind the crease is enough to make the ball dead). He was preoccupied with tapping down the impact point on the pitch. It was one of the intermittent lapses in concentration he has.
@nicholasmudrinic4464
@nicholasmudrinic4464 10 ай бұрын
The last bit of footage was absolutely brilliant.
@scoopmaster4206
@scoopmaster4206 10 ай бұрын
Bairstow doesn't even look back to see if the ball was taken cleanly, showing 0 game awareness...he deserved to be out
@adrianking5661
@adrianking5661 10 ай бұрын
The English reaction is a distraction from being 2 nil in the ashes....
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 10 ай бұрын
the last clip of bairstow stumping that batsman was pure gold. can someone tell me who was that against ?
@dougadamsau
@dougadamsau 10 ай бұрын
Nottingham v Yorkshire. Joe Root is in there slapping him on the back.
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 10 ай бұрын
@@dougadamsau Lol, even joe root is there ? that is pure gold. absolutely hilarious.
@RtB68
@RtB68 10 ай бұрын
Professional cricketer at the highest level and at a critical time in a tight moment of a gripping match makes a schoolboy error and cries - loudly - that "it isn't fair". Please, just stop.
@willywhonka
@willywhonka 10 ай бұрын
Every team has done it but conveniently forget that when it happens to their team. If it's against the spirit of the game change the rule. Otherwise play til the ball is dead, if you get caught out it's only yourself to blame.
@MrRtovey
@MrRtovey 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you. Summed up all the key points perfectly (although I am Aussie so definitely some bias). Can't wait for the 3rd test, should be very spicy!
@jed2055
@jed2055 10 ай бұрын
You don't need to be an Aussie to see the utter hypocrisy of all this. He's out just like thousands of others who have done EXACTLY the same thing. And as someones else said here, where's the controversy? Move on, nothing to see here.
@keitsee
@keitsee 10 ай бұрын
Nailed it well done. Great evidence and well thought out explanations. Subbed!
@tarunkd27
@tarunkd27 10 ай бұрын
Your vids are so well made
@AyushMishra-fi2wv
@AyushMishra-fi2wv 10 ай бұрын
I just realized that carry throwing tha ball before Johnny crossed his line and ball hits the stumps afterwards
@stevenbeharry4498
@stevenbeharry4498 10 ай бұрын
chef's kiss on the last part of the video
@scjewell1961
@scjewell1961 10 ай бұрын
Carey’s catching of the ball and the stumping were carried out in a single motion. The over couldn’t possibly have been called at an end. The ball was live, the stumping was brilliant and Bairstow learnt a lesson. I doubt that we’ll be talking about this in years to come (if we are we’ve got Bugger all to talk about). Once this Ashes series is over it will be quickly forgotten, but coaches everywhere will drill players to stay in the crease until the ball is dead.
@bok1080
@bok1080 10 ай бұрын
As a lot of people have said, it is within the rules of the game. Even a previous England captain (Vaughn) has said that it was a 'brain fart' on Bairstow's part to leave the crease without looking at the keeper and 'getting the nod' that the over was over, if Carey had stumped him after giving the nod, then it would have been against the spirit of the game. Given that Bairstow had attempted to do the same thing in the same match (and had done the same thing in another match and when asked about it said it was withing the rules so it was ok) then I don't think that the England team can use the 'spirit of cricket' defense in any way for this, as they have done (or attempted to do) the same thing themselves, I think that Bairsow (and the rest of the team) should take Baistow's own advice from 2014. Interestingly the MCC has disciplined the members involved in the altercation in the long room. And dare anyone mention bodyline?
@kugsyy
@kugsyy 10 ай бұрын
It’s not like he held the ball and waited for bairstow to walk out of his crease, like what bairstow has done in the past, he caught in and threw it as soon as he could. Englands excuse that the umpires moved was the umpires fault for not realising it was a stumping attempt. It would’ve been really disappointing if it was given not out because the umpires weren’t focused. England trying taking the moral high ground after bowling bouncers at Lyon who is struggling to stand because of a injury is disgraceful
@fry_me
@fry_me 10 ай бұрын
Those of us who have played many years of cricket also have had the pleasure?? of having to umpire quite a few games also and one thing was always clear; when an umpire called out quite loudly "over". When this occurs there can be no doubt that the ball is then dead and the batsmen are free to tend their garden, make small talk or engage in some other mental outlet all they like. It seems the ICC and their umpires rarely seem to do this nowadays so are they then contributing to the murky waters which is easily put to bed if this simple act is followed? I have also had a keeper throw down the stumps of a batsmen that overbalanced and stepped out of his crease and foolishly never stepped back in when the keeper was 15 yards (ok 5 yards as I was never that quick) away and have it deemed a stumping as the form of dismissal. Clever work by the keeper no doubt and no argument from the opposition nor the batsmen. It happens...move on...next game please. Leave the hystrionics behind and learn from your mistakes. I was still finding new ways to be dismissed or "never befores" after 30 years of playing the game.
@warrendonpaul4549
@warrendonpaul4549 10 ай бұрын
100% agree! Theres no difference between a spin or pace bowler.. if you leave your crease your going to get stumped
@kosan2875
@kosan2875 10 ай бұрын
he didnt even give the umpires a chance to call the over. He took it upon himself and they try to say its against the spirit of the game. SMH
@bruisermac6797
@bruisermac6797 10 ай бұрын
Great video, well made and extremely well said.
@jacqloock
@jacqloock 10 ай бұрын
Mitchell Stark’s non-catch was against the spirit of the game because he obviously caught it and never dropped it or even lost control.
@DeceasedDuck
@DeceasedDuck 10 ай бұрын
13:20 and its also the fact that they waited for years and years just for the opportunity to stand in such a prestigious position inside the long room, just to stuff it up by saying things that really didnt need to be said.
@kosan2875
@kosan2875 10 ай бұрын
i can tell they waited years and years. They all old af... also grumpy too
@peterlongland6862
@peterlongland6862 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I was sure it was a stumping and not a run out and you clarified that beautifully. The other so called controversy was the start catch and again all quedos to the umpires. Start during the action of catching the ball clearly grounded therefore it was deemed dropped. The umpires should be congratulated as they correctly called both situations.
@tristantrainer3199
@tristantrainer3199 10 ай бұрын
I completely agree with everything you said about it being in the laws of the game. He is daft to have left his crease before confirming it was over. However, a mankad is actually more legitimate in my eyes than that. Mankad happens when a batter is trying to jump the gun on getting a run in. Therefore giving an advantage. This was Bairstow in his crease, marking his line, clearly "settled", then walking to chat with his fellow batter. There is zero advantage to him leaving his crease "faster" here. I agree he was daft to do it, but it can't be argued it is a sly way to win. Same if England do it, but that clip you showed at the end of Bairstow stumping, was of a wicket keeper standing up to the wicket and stumping instantly, the batter hadn't "settled" from the shot. If Carey had been standing up or thrown it faster he would not have got him. The same argument applies to someone being "settled with the ball" when catching. Also people can disagree with the laws of the game. The anger is sparked more by this kind of video, than if you'd just left it alone.
@paullyon3760
@paullyon3760 10 ай бұрын
As an England fan, England need to remember what the Ashes is all about.
@ozwunder69
@ozwunder69 10 ай бұрын
This is like malcolm fraser being caught with his pants down
@daniello9155
@daniello9155 10 ай бұрын
ha ha ha, a lot of people would not know what you are talking about, but still funny never the less.
@collossuss10
@collossuss10 10 ай бұрын
"What we are now starting to see is what the team looks like when it begins to suffer a couple of defeats in a row" - Actually its what we have ALWAYS seen with the English team. It's just the culture of that national team, always has been.
@harveyholmes9533
@harveyholmes9533 10 ай бұрын
What we really need to see to calm everyone down is a game winning, walk off Mankading for England in the third test
@russdy1982
@russdy1982 10 ай бұрын
I wanna see the English bowlers continue to bounce the Aussies, and on an occasion an Aussie handles the ball… The English go up and appeal and the crowd rise as one for a dismissal… Then the batsman says ‘nah, I was protecting myself from injury’… keep his wicket and go on to score a glorious ton.
@robwri9544
@robwri9544 10 ай бұрын
There is a very important life lesson in understanding that you are really only ever responsible for your own actions. Specifically for Jonny Bairstow, he should be putting his hand up and apologising for allowing the situation to happen in the first place. Remember, you won't learn from a mistake if you don't admit you made it.
@timblizzard4226
@timblizzard4226 10 ай бұрын
Best analysis I've seen mate
@sirius010
@sirius010 10 ай бұрын
I can't remember how Bairstow was described by the commentary team, but I'm pretty sure it was something along the lines of sloppy. And I'm in complete agreement! He's a professional sportsman and should know the rule book. The opportunity presented itself and the Ozzie's took it. Fair play! I'm convinced England would have done exactly the same given the situation and have little room rattle on about "being in the spirit of the game" when the only ones who appear to be taking liberties with it are some of the fans and in particular the MCC members who heckled them on the teams return to the pavilion. Going to be an exciting 3 remaining matches of the series, but any mention of this being a "potential turning point" will be bollocks!
@jatinkumar7287
@jatinkumar7287 10 ай бұрын
Stokes: i wouldn't wanna win this way by crushing spirit of the game..... Stokes in wc 19: i wanna say sorry to them but we won so what can u dooo...... Broad: u will be only remembered for this.... Broad remember for: edging the ball still playing in 13... Getting hit for 6 sixes... And many stupid thing that can happen to one bowler happens with broad. English crowd is just the avg child u will cry if he's answer comes wrong and then talk about why don't u just take back your decision to fail me... It's an ever ending story of crying Englishman who will cry not on the rule but why opposition took advantage of it. I didn't feel stokes talking about starc catch that it was immoral of their team in the spirit of the game to consider it not out. English crowd were happy with it but not the other way around. If in cricket hypocrisy had a face it would be England for sure. They cry on every game they lost.
@trikeabout
@trikeabout 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on and well reasoned.
@kaustuvtimilsina1919
@kaustuvtimilsina1919 10 ай бұрын
Very fair assessment mate
@robhodgman3444
@robhodgman3444 10 ай бұрын
McCullum promoted this style of play as a player /coach for Brisbane in the T20 format….good to watch but needed balance to be consistently winning…as a Queenslander I soon got sick of the bravado that caused us to lose too often…
@colindant3410
@colindant3410 10 ай бұрын
At the non-striker's end, just start moving forward inside the crease as the bowler approaches the end of his run-up, and move beyond the crease the instant the bowler releases the ball.
@LukeO9
@LukeO9 10 ай бұрын
wouldn't it be 'sporting' for Duckett to walk after being caught by Starc ? - it was not dropped, it was in the field of play and was from a legal delivery.
@bigverner013
@bigverner013 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic work mate.
@bobbywilliam
@bobbywilliam 10 ай бұрын
It was explained wisely and correctly good job mate ........................... i wonder if it was dealt with THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME and Bairstow a ben Partnership wins the test for England then these same people and media would have said something else ( what a beautiful show of the spirit of the game shown by Aussie which cost them a test but we are now 1-1 job done ).
@sambowles9746
@sambowles9746 10 ай бұрын
Very well spoken. Good work on the rewrite.
@sectokia1909
@sectokia1909 10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the exact law for Mankad? Some say it has to be 'before' the delivery stride, some say after. Also is the delivery stride the step of the front foot to the crease line? Or the next step after that? No one seems to know.
@Sunny-sc5vq
@Sunny-sc5vq 10 ай бұрын
The batsman shouldn't be out of the crease before the ball is supposed to be bowled. That means, if the bowler has completed half of his bowling action, he/she can't run out the runner. The difference between Ashwin's runout and Australian bowlers runout was that the Australian spinner had almost rotated his shoulder and was at the point of release, whereas Ashwin had even begun his rotation of the shoulders. The Australian bowler deceived the runner, whereas Ashwin didn't because you're not supposed to be out of your crease before the bowling action started.
@canwelook
@canwelook 10 ай бұрын
@sectokia1909 Mankad: if the non striker is out of the crease any time up until the ball is normally released by the bowler, he can be run out. Dumping that silly custom is a good thing. The non striker needs to stay in their crease just like the batsman or risk getting out.
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 10 ай бұрын
Just google law 38.3. It has nothing to do with delivery stride. The batsman cant leave crease before bowler has completed half of his swing, i.e. before ball is at highest point of his action.
@JaseC80
@JaseC80 10 ай бұрын
Breaking News: The entire England Cricket Team has undergone medical assessments under the concussion guidelines….officials are concerned at the immediate loss of memory by all of the squad, including the coach. Medical staff believe it may be a case of pompous, self entitled, sore looseritis, hypocrisy they’re all suffering. Which has lead to a hereditary bout of whinging, whining and rants about a subject they have no knowledge of or experience in… ‘Sprit of the game’. Should they be required to be substituted out of the next test there are growing concerns as the sooking and hypocrisy has spread across the country in a manner worse than any pandemic in living memory.
@DeepThought9999
@DeepThought9999 10 ай бұрын
Love it! Well done.
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