Ten Mins Reversing Oil Tanks into Kingsbury Sidings.

[@rodneycooperLMSCoach]

That is one amazing and mesmerising video Mike. Well done and thankyou. I started work there in 1963 when the site on the right was occupied by George Cohen 600 group scrap yard and I was a trainee in the accounts department but spent most of the time watching the Black Fives shunting coal wagons up to Baddesley Colliery. Cohens got some interesting things to break up from old railway wagons to London Underground trains.

[@andrewchaston503]

Interesting. Thank you for posting. Cohen's had sites in Norfolk.. remember lines of scrappers where our Jewsons is now

[@andrewchaston503]

It's not amazing it's called shunting When I worked at Kings Cross freight depot in the 70s we would AMAZING 700 wagons per DAY

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you Rodney for this comment on your working days there at Kingsbury, I do remember the 600 group being there but that was in the late 70s. Cheers for your interest in my video, Mike.

[@blackjockofmangertonpele]

​@@andrewchaston503if you're going to belittle this manoeuvre then at least refer to it as reversing or propelling rather than shunting!

[@cidertom5140]

@@andrewchaston503 some of the worlds largest freight trains have up to that many o them and up to 8 locomotives ( don’t take my word for it though )

[@AJGossTrains]

Blimey, wow this epic! Fantastic video mate!! 👍❤️

[@antman09ful1]

Glad you enjoyed it sir, your channel looks interesting I will have to watch some of your videos, Regards Mike.

[@bryannewman5012]

Always interesting to watch, shunting movements. Nice work Mike.

[@antman09ful1]

Cheers Bryan, I was in the area and was hoping for a class 60 but got the shed.

[@colingarwood9971]

Excellent video Mike, and very interesting waiching the required manouvres. Thanks for sharing this great footage, take care and all the best, Colin.

[@antman09ful1]

I was in the area that morning Colin, so I thought I would film a class 60 doing the working but as you can see I got a shed. Take care yourself Colin, Mike.

[@andydavidson9440]

Great to see such shunting for a change. Thanks Mike

[@antman09ful1]

Yes It makes videos a bit more interesting I agree Andy. Cheers Mike.

[@spectrumisgreen7252]

Thank you for this upload. I worked these trains many many times from Immingham ( before redundancy in 2017 ) loved the job, 6M35 was great in the summer, grim in the winter, with a book on time at Immingham M.P.D of 01:35 ( 00:35 on Saturday ) Much better to have a class 60 on these jobs as they could usually keep time ..... a class 66 with 32 loaded tanks seriously needed to be in notch 8 of the throttle for much of the way, and even then, could still lose time!!! Thanks again for the upload!!

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you for telling me about the difference between the 60 and the 66 on this 6M35 working which when I went to do this filming I was hoping for a class 60 as they are getting very rare lately. Cheers for watching my video ATB Mike.

[@spectrumisgreen7252]

@@antman09ful1 You are most welcome Mike, an excellent video. As I said, this job was a little grim in the winter, but a joy in the summer ...... the sun coming up over the Lincolnshire Wolds and the wildlife was always lovely!! The other job that we worked regularly was 6M00 around lunch time out of H.O.R that also was a good job, again, especially in the summer months. All the best chief 😉😊😉😊

[@antman09ful1]

Cheers sir.

[@AngryPunk]

Many thanks, Mike. Very interesting.

[@antman09ful1]

Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for sending this comment, ATB Mike.

[@Shawn-wm3xr]

Excellent video - I spend a bit of time there watching the class 60’s usually glide the wagons in and out 👍👍

[@antman09ful1]

Glad you enjoyed my footage Shawn, I was hoping for a class 60 but got this shed.

[@Shawn-wm3xr]

Yeah it’s usually a 60 !! But still enjoyable watching all the same - seen the occasional 70 but 90% of the time a 60 on it !!!

[@philclarke3203]

Great catch Mike. Can't rush these manouevers! if I did this oin my 'oo' gauge, it would certainly de rail!!

[@antman09ful1]

Oh yes Phil, cheers for your comment. Take care Mike.

[@alistairkewish651]

The block oil trains used to come through Fiskerton en route for Kingsbury. That was in the mid -90s. Still going strong.

[@michaelcartwright1469]

Remember these in the 1970s usually with a 47 or 2x31 Kingsbury is my home village

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you for your comment, and the interest in my video Alistair.

[@antman09ful1]

Oh yes Michael they were great day, a shame I didn't have a camcorder in them days, plus I worked most days.

[@michaelcartwright1469]

@@antman09ful1 a group of us used to congregate on the next bridge in the late 70s

[@michaelwant8501]

I remember running the SimSig Saltley panel, which included this part of the line. Agonisingly slow in the sim, just like in real life! And you quite often had a poor little DMU kicking its heels waiting to be given the road. Great video! And I've subscribed.

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you Michael for your interest in my video, and I hope you find other videos you would like to watch now you have subscribed to my channel. I upload about four videos a week from different part of the country.

[@BaggiesTMD]

Cracking video mate currently building Kingsbury in 00 gauge model railway from trinity rd bridge to the signal where the 170 is parked only going to be running 22 tea's though layouts set in to early 00's

[@antman09ful1]

Oh right ok, well thanks for watching my video.

[@James-Power82]

Another super video Mike, it's interesting seeing manouevres like this occur

[@antman09ful1]

Many thanks James for watching my video, I was hoping for a class 60 when I was in the area that morning. Regards Mike.

[@mykeready3742]

Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you for sharing this. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you for your interest mate.

[@Burtonupontrentrailwaystoday]

That's one of the best videos I've seen on here thank you

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you very much for your kind comment, and yes I'm not to sure if the Rectory Junction working still operates.

[@benGBRf]

Great to catch this Mike. Kingsbury is always a pain for causing delays due to this. It certainly is an impressive manoeuvre but would help if it had a Tug on it

[@antman09ful1]

I was hoping for a tug Ben, but these days its getting rare to see one on this duty, cheers for having a watch of this video, Mike.

[@edwinfitchett6033]

I would imagine it's down to economics tugs are more powerful but also more expensive to operate

[@cidertom5140]

@@edwinfitchett6033no I I wouldn’t think so. a two stroke is more expensive to run requiring different grade of engine oil to a 4 stroke. A prime example is the Napier deltic used in class 55 diesel electric locomotive. It’s an 18 cylinder horizontal apposed ( like in the commer commercial vehicles ) 2 stroke engine arranged in a triangle. It was used in the nasty class patrol boats. Also as a harbor fire pump engine out in America.

[@burtonupontrentrailwaystod8589]

6M35 02:01 Humber Oil Refinery to Kingsbury seems to produce a 60 more often than not its 06:02 @ Kingsbury return working 6E54

[@jackvieira5157]

Amazing video seeing the 66 in action

[@antman09ful1]

Cheers Jack for cheering my video out, much appreciated.

[@RonCooper-nl4pn]

A brilliant video and truly amazing. 32 loaded bogey oil tankers, TRY THAT ON A MODEL RAILWAY even in ‘O’ gauge !

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you very much Ron for comment.

[@BaggiesTMD]

Currently building a 00 model of Kingsbury

[@swearingkevo]

That was a long meandering reverse, nice one Mike

[@antman09ful1]

Pleased you enjoyed it Kev, something a bit different from my usual videos. ATB Mike.

[@davehowe4714]

Nice capture, I remember standing on the bank over the back of the housing estate a child watching movements like this. Used to be a regular there called Colin, always train spotting 👍🏼

[@antman09ful1]

Thanks for sharing your early days from looking across from the park which I have done years ago, and for watching my video.

[@TrainTraction]

Splendid shots and capture there Mike. Another gooden from you! That 170 must've been waiting for some time haha. Excellent detailing and camera work! A nice slow reverse as well. Very nice indeed! Really enjoyed, thanks for sharing! Take care, have an awesome day and all the best! Jamie

[@antman09ful1]

Glad you enjoyed this one Jamie, I'm thinking of new or old areas I haven't been to for a long time, and this was one of them. Can't remember the last time I did some filming here, could of been the Eurostar. Have a pleasant weekend Mike.

[@andrewwilson6240]

I commuted on this route for several years. If I spotted Lyndsay Oil Refinery to Kingsbury in front, I knew what to expect!

[@SteveSmithRailways]

Im still surprised that they allow that off the mainline shunting backwards....still, can't say that I've ever heard of a derailment there causing a blocked main line.......great to watch though and even better with a class 60

[@davehowe4714]

I’ve got a newspaper cut out of 58013 on a lean in that area having ran away from Birch Coppice colliery and derail itself next to the mainline. My dad kept it as he knew I loved the 58’s

[@keitheglon]

Why, it's probably quicker than running round it's train. Thst's the way it should always be doing it this way, it's what drivers are trained for. Always did that in my time before I retired.

[@thebear3178]

Pity for the passenger train waiting !

[@SteveSmithRailways]

@@keitheglon that's good to hear

[@antman09ful1]

Steve there was a derailment they when backing the tanks which happened on the 1st August 2012. After that they put yellow stronger point blades in so the points wouldn't move.

[@ggarnet6440]

I bet the driver of the 170 was spitting feathers! 😁 I miss the Kingsbury tank job. Much, much easier with a 60 though. Great vid, fella. Thanks. You must do one on the run round and reverse move on the way out too. 👍🏻

[@antman09ful1]

Oh yes its been many years since I did a return revise, and that was with a class 60. Cheers Mike.

[@derekwood0802]

"Superb Video" thanks for Shairing.!

[@donnypete]

Fantastic Footage Mike. It's a bit similar to when the sand train comes to Rockware near me. Always awsome to watch.

[@antman09ful1]

Oh that is one I haven't seen Pete, cheers for the comment. Mike.

[@Class58001]

Just subscribed.. if an American freight train was doin that they would have a switchman standin on the back... Great to see the manovers in operation rather than just a loco passing by..

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you for your interest, and your sub.

[@arnoldspottingvideos5269]

Great footage Mike. That's a very long oil train

[@antman09ful1]

That is the normal length Arnold these days, cheers Mike.

[@S2RUF]

1990ft/607m.

[@grahamallen1970]

Yep cool moves....and as a ex xc driver sat at that signal or the ones before if a bit of a que whilst trains back in....got to keep the fuel flowing

[@antman09ful1]

Yes indeed Graham, joking apart I suppose the fuel has to come first as all would stop without it. Thank you for your comment. Regards Mike.

[@bigdmac33]

I actually enjoyed watching the whole thing. @rodneycooperLMSCoach called it "mesmerising" and that is very apt. The '66' is one serious piece of kit. One thought occurred to me - If a unit like the '66' can pull 32 or so wagons like this, then why are mainline passenger power units restricted to around 11 or so coaches? Can train opeators not introduce more powerful power units to haul more coaches? This might have the effect of lowering fares and do away with that HS2 white elephant vanity project. Anyone else have views on this?

[@antman09ful1]

I do get what what you mean about being mesmerised by the footage mate, not sure about you thoughts about very long trains with a 66 on the front, as our platforms wouldn't be long enough. I'm 100% with you about the HS2 White elephant crap.

[@pmallenuk]

Interesting watching this heavy fuel train reversing. Seems like a popular video. I’ve watched this there myself a few times but usually with a class 60

[@antman09ful1]

I was hoping for a 60 myself Paul.

[@barrythedieselelectricstea5217]

excellent catch 👍that certainly takes some time it's just like when freight reverses into tonbridge West yard but not that length of time

[@antman09ful1]

Yes I have witnessed the revising of 6O86 at Tonbridge Barry, cheers for the comment. Mike.

[@scruffwoodscruffwood6505]

Nice footage and well filmed Mike. I have had some nice footage from that road bridge myself just a shame its on a busy road

[@antman09ful1]

Owain the traffic is a pain and it always coming when you don't what it to. Cheers Mike.

[@hiworldstephensonultranate290]

Superb Well Done Mike n the Train Driver what a job very dodgy that train flying by

[@antman09ful1]

Morning Brian, thank you for watching my video.

[@Spanderson99]

I couldn’t see anyone “riding the point” (hanging on the last car to relay signals to the head end). Was there someone on the ground that we couldn’t see? How do they handle moves like this with single man crews? Shame the UK doesn’t see more freight action.

[@antman09ful1]

Went the train arrives which you can't see in this video, the driver is given a radio so the guy on the ground can tell him if any problems at the back happen. I agree this country should put more freight on the rails.

[@mauricelaidler4789]

Thank you. Great video and informative, especially to see the points change for both trains near the end. How does the engine driver/guard know it is safe to continue reversing?

[@antman09ful1]

The driver and the guy on the ground have a radio. Thank you for your interest in this video.

[@isaac-h]

Nice, these come past my house and was wondering why it takes so long to move so little on the first three timing points.

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you for your interest in my video.

[@colinharrison6608]

is the driver reversing blind or does he have some form of lookout to make sure there's no obstructions out of his sight

[@antman09ful1]

They had a look out man, and have radio connection between them Colin.

[@justandy333]

Nice catch! as someone has already said, very mesmerising. The thing i find fascinating about this is there is no banksman to be seen to spot for hazards or derailments. Does the driver/engineer have a camera mounted on the rear wagon? Also how does the driver know when the last wagon has passed the set of points into the yard? Im a railway enthusiast but having never worked on the railways its a question thats always bugged me.

[@antman09ful1]

Thanks for being interested in my video, there would be a guy with a radio who keeps in contact with the driver, you don't see it in the video but the driver stops as he is handed a radio.

[@justandy333]

@@antman09ful1 Ahh I see, thanks for that bit of info 🙂

[@keynsham-trains]

Good video . That working always used to be a 60 working you could hear the 66 working hard with that train .

[@antman09ful1]

Yes you are very right, I was hoping to get a 60 but these days they are getting very rare on these tank workings to Kingsbury. Thank you for your kind comment mate.

[@scujim]

I know nothing about Rail operations in the Uk, can someone tell me why that is a Deutche Bahn locamotive

[@antman09ful1]

They are one of the train company's that run freight trains in the UK sir. Before that they were called EWS English Wales & Scottish Railways.

[@johnm2012]

Because, while the government does not like the idea of a British national railway company operating trains in this country, it seems perfectly happy to let national railway companies of other countries do it.

[@railbuddy8372]

wonderful capture friend....big like...greetings from india

[@antman09ful1]

Thank you.

[@markkneafsey-nl8tv]

That train is literally snaking it's way through those tracks

[@antman09ful1]

Well yes it looking like that I agree Mark.

[@MrKnowwun]

Well at least the driver doesn't have to remember which way to turn the steering wheel, bet he couldn't reverse my caravan.

[@antman09ful1]

Its possible, but he may have one.

[@johnemsden735]

and after that it still has to split the wagons in to the 3 discharge lines

[@antman09ful1]

Yeah that's right John, cheers for your comment.

[@JL-rx6hl]

just imagine the chaos if one of those tanks derails whilst being shunted to the sidings..

[@antman09ful1]

Yes it did happen in August 2012, I think in was JL.

[@SimonTog]

Very nice Mike :)

[@antman09ful1]

Many thanks

[@deauvilledad07]

Clearly you need some patience to be able to film this manoeuvre. Super video Mike , well done 🤓

[@antman09ful1]

I think you mean a steady hand Tony, I think I'm ok at the moment ?

[@railfanpolska]

Cool footage! Well done 👍

[@antman09ful1]

Thanks for visiting my channel again.

[@ormondsworld3947]

Great shot Mike!

[@antman09ful1]

Good of you Thomas to say that, thank you Mike.

[@henkdraaijer2525]

A very nice video 👍

[@antman09ful1]

Many thanks for your interest Henk, have a good day.

[@davidwrottesley7447]

32 loaded oil tanks propelled off a main line at03mph wow great skilled driving why no head on move?no space or money to have a better siding arrangement??!!!!!! Isuppose

[@antman09ful1]

Cheers for your comment on this video I uploaded David.

[@terryleggett]

Great Video. Is there a way this could be routed to run straight into the depot? I've looked on maps and i could only see if it is sent via Manchester and into Bescot.

[@S2RUF]

The problem with running in loco first (which does sometimes happen when there is engineering work resulting in trains running via Leicester & Nuneaton, running round near Saltley and then coming up to the terminal when the route opens) is that you would need to run round the train again inside Kingsbury before shunting into the unloading terminal. In the move shown in the video (normal working) the wagons can be propelled straight into the unloading point, which has dead end sidings so wagons must lead in.

[@antman09ful1]

Hi Terry thank for your interest in watching my video, S2RUF has answered your question perfectly I think, and I would have said the same.

[@terryleggett]

@@S2RUF Thanks for your reply

[@maimadha]

Great video

[@antman09ful1]

Thanks.

[@iainmillar1532]

Do uk train drivers have to be specially qualified to haul hazmat?

[@antman09ful1]

Not sure about that Iain, I don't think so.

[@S2RUF]

⁠ No it’s all part of the regular training. If you actually encounter any is another matter, all depends on what work flows your depot covers etc.

[@iainmillar1532]

@@S2RUF thanks, interesting. It’s similar to aviation where all pilots have the same dangerous goods training. But different to trucking where hazmat qualifications are add-ons which enable a driver to take higher paying jobs.

[@S2RUF]

@@iainmillar1532 I have worked this oil job in the past, brought it out of the refinery when it was diverted from its usual route do to engineering work, but not done them for ages. I usually work container jobs which now and then have a DG or two on there, but it’s not regular.

[@rockerjim8045]

does anyone know why after reversing into the siding the train then pulled forward? could you film the return movement. When and where would the Loco swap ends?

[@Otacatapetl]

I expect not all of the wagons had to go in the same siding.

[@rockerjim8045]

@@Otacatapetl these trains regularly pass my local station and they are always a full take in each direction. Real Time Trains only has one destination for these trains - Kingsbury Oil Terminal. Some how the loco has to swap ends for the return run back to Lincolnshire. Any chance you could film a departure at some point? ta

[@Otacatapetl]

@@rockerjim8045 No, I haven't got a video camera.

[@antman09ful1]

I did film the return working from Kingsbury about eight years ago I think it was, on the return the tanks are empty. If I am passing again and the train is about to go I will film it for you.

[@mattharbon]

The terminal itself is two thirds of the way up the sidings. So you set back past the terminal over a set of clipped points, then draw forward to clear the points so you can then be set back onto the discharge lines, once the Groundstaff operating the groundframe can give the line back to WMSC before shunting properly begins.

[@CycolacFan]

I’m amazed that all that separates a stationary passenger train from an oil train is one signal and a very short length of track. Especially when there are so many sets of points involved. Is that normal? I realise accidents are rare but if just one tanker derailed you’ve got the potential for danger to the commuter train that’s waiting. Wouldn’t they insist on one train in the block on the same line?

[@antman09ful1]

You don't get many junctions like this one, and only one train is allowed in each section. Thanks for your interest in this video I uploaded.

[@CycolacFan]

@@antman09ful1 that was my understanding of it, one train per section. Where is the section divide here because it looks like two in one. I didn’t think they allowed trains to be separated by one signal and a few hundred feet, especially if one is reversing on and off a mainline.

[@sykescalvin09]

​@@CycolacFanthe signal is the divide. The standard overrun distance beyond a signal is 200yds/180m, and the safety systems are designed to ensure any train can be brought to a stop within that distance.

[@CycolacFan]

@@sykescalvin09 that’s some impressive stopping power, presume that’s from a very low speed?

[@sykescalvin09]

@@CycolacFan About 30mph I think. The previous two signals will have warned the driver that they will need to stop, and if they fail to slow down, there's an overspend sensor in advance of the protecting signal that can automatically trigger the emergency brakes.

[@michaelcartwright1469]

Don’t forget that they have to reverse out as well

[@antman09ful1]

Yes that is right Michael.

[@michaelcartwright1469]

@@antman09ful1 when visiting my mother recently I noticed that as the 66 reversed out a 70 was waiting to reverse in. I believe that one of them is aviation fuel for BHX

[@antman09ful1]

Yes Michael the service is now shared between DB and Colas, not heard that some of it is for aircraft at BHX, I've always thought it was for road transport, but they say you learn something everyday.

[@abloogywoogywoo]

They should still use brake vans for such a manoeuvre.

[@antman09ful1]

Like your thoughts.

[@exb.r.buckeyeman845]

Are these tanks loaded ?

[@antman09ful1]

Yes they are sir.

[@polypoly7966]

Who is at the front of the shunt, or is the driver reversing blind?

[@antman09ful1]

Radio contact is used.

[@freespeechforever]

Ridiculous! Great video but surely a turn out before the junction, even if a bit tight, would resolve the problem?

[@antman09ful1]

Yes, but its all down to cost I would say.

[@admiralbenbow5083]

4.59 I thought it was in slo mo until that train passed !

[@antman09ful1]

Oh I see, ok.

[@nigelkthomas9501]

It’s a bit much this when passenger trains get held up.

[@antman09ful1]

Our passenger trains get held up everyday which we never get the truth why from the train manager.

[@alanmarlow3031]

No Banksman ?

[@antman09ful1]

I did see someone in high vis gear.

[@S2RUF]

The ground staff will be waiting just round the corner for the rear of the train to appear, they will have initially given the driver a radio as they passed the cabin, the driver will then draw forward until the rear of the train is clear of the ground position light that’s visible on the right - they have a repeater signal further down that they can see from the locomotive, when this clears they know the signaller has set the route into the sidings. They then propel the train back and the ground staff will talk them back towards the oil terminal.

[@antman09ful1]

Nice one.

[@ttvvideos2050]

looks difficult shunting oil

[@antman09ful1]

Thanks for taking a look at my video TTV, hope all is well with you.

[@drdoolittle5724]

There is content and filming but this production Sir goes right to the top, truly brilliant! If YT had competitions and You had entered the transport one this would crush everything else! Thank you very much! Any idea total weight for that train?

[@antman09ful1]

Sorry no I don't know the weight of the loaded train, but thank you very much for your kind comment Dr.

[@crompton065]

3200t if loaded but wouldn't think this would be with a 66 on it

[@gailpilmoor9003]

I hope someone fixed that dodgy wheel 😮

[@antman09ful1]

Cheers for taking a look at my video.

[@tattoo1084]

That a fair old move!

[@antman09ful1]

Yeah Dave and they have to do it when they depart back to Immingham.

[@ronaldweir712]

The DMU wouldn't get the green light until the points were set against the 66 rejoining the main line.

[@antman09ful1]

Yes you are right.

[@jeremywilcox]

Guess I am the only one who counted there were 32...

[@antman09ful1]

No Jeremy I do believe someone also mentioned the tanks.

[@russellfrench2811]

No pressure on the signalman then 😂

[@antman09ful1]

Would think so Russell.

[@matt154uk9]

I've always found this manoeuvre fascinating to watch also. Shame it wasn't a tug at the head of the train but great viewing nonetheless

[@antman09ful1]

totally agree mate.

[@allanegleston4931]

if i were to do that with my models , they'd be derailed all over the place .

[@antman09ful1]

Yes another guy said the same. cheers for watching which is much appreciated.

[@kevinknowles3365]

Definitely not a Blink and you've missed it' manoeuvre.

[@antman09ful1]

That's right Kev.

[@Mariazellerbahn]

Allowing a passenger train that close to a conflicting movement needs reporting.

[@antman09ful1]

Go ahead.

[@dieseldave3879]

🚂👍

[@antman09ful1]

Cheers Dave.

[@mauricehopper7802]

What utter nonsense this is in modern railway operation. Why is there not a loop which the train can run into direct from the mainline? The British obsession with avoiding facing points is not found in Europe or N America.

[@antman09ful1]

We all have our views on this operation at Kingsbury.

[@John-en6po]

As the train1 is on tracks there is little skill involved in 😂that exercise, Try reversing an articulated truck .Strike plagued overpaid unions destroying our country

[@antman09ful1]

Thanks for your view of this video John.

[@simonwhitlock9189]

What's the big deal?,can only go the way the points are set and someone at the other end to tell him when to stop, mountain out of a molehill.

[@ggarnet6440]

Those trains weigh in excess of 3300 tonnes, being pushed around a corner and up a steep gradient and all to be kept at a constant 3mph. It is made even more difficult when the rails are slippery in wet weather. When the train is almost in the siding, about 2/3rds of the weight of the train is on the whole gradient and the power required to push back the wagons is incredibly high. The driver also has to be alert in case power is lost, as the weight of the train would quickly stop and push it forwards.

[@simonwhitlock9189]

Suggest you have a look at the iron ore trains in the Pilbara in Western Australia,up to three kilometres long and 30k tons in weight makes this look like amateurs.

[@ggarnet6440]

@@simonwhitlock9189 It’s not a competition chief. No doubt there are more longer, difficult scenarios than what is in this video. It doesn’t detract from the fact that the manoeuvre in this video isn’t easy to do and the skills involved to complete it.

[@antman09ful1]

You are entitled to say what you want, I'm not saying I agree with you.

[@robertmarshall6578]

@@ggarnet6440 Nice reply to those who are saying this manoeuvre is a piece of cake. What occurs to me is that when reversing, the compression forces on the buffers and frames of the tankers nearest the loco must be enormous, and I wonder how close a few wheels are to popping off the rails - like they do on my Hornby Dublo.

[@Dave-dm7vt]

Where was the shunter, one’s supposed to be at the back.

[@antman09ful1]

I did see him.

[@Dave-dm7vt]

But he wasn’t there when the train was propelling, he only came out when it was drawing forward.

[@eleanorkennedy669]

Remember to tune in next week when we will be watching paint dry.

[@antman09ful1]

Yes you must.

[@Otacatapetl]

@@antman09ful1 Don't worry, you can't please a woman.