"Ten Years After" Someone They Knew with Tamron Hall

[@kimmyball4961]

Whether she did it or not, being in jail for 10 years awaiting trial is absolutely ludicrous.

[@LeticiaMcWilliams]

Especially when we are presumed innocent until proven guilty 😢

[@marydungan6748]

She wasn't in jail. She was in a mental hospital. Now whether they gave her treatment or not during that time, they didn't say. I think she did it and that her son was part of it.

[@carole567]

Her lawyer did say he felt she was OK being in jail as she was fed, housed and her health looked after, and she is back on the streets now, sort of makes you think, I wonder how she feels about it. I feel bad for the family that died, the fact that nobody has been held accountable is just so sad!! RIP...

[@grouchyoleguy]

Happens alot

[@grouchyoleguy]

​@@LeticiaMcWilliamsnot these days

[@rociomonge3711]

17:41 "She was much better in jail, having 3 meals a day and a roof over her head, than living on the streets of Lynn." OK, that just illustrates how bad is our mental health care in the US.

[@tessaducek5601]

Its sad that being in jail was more stable than on the streets. Shows where government priorities lay.

[@madi4481]

@@tessaducek5601 It is the biggest lie. Every homeless jail will tell you they would not stay for minute in inhumane torture slavery dungeons of American jails that sleeping in the bridge. The " 3 meals a day" coverup, if u can even call it a meal LOL, is to fool everyone about inhumane torture that jail is. P.S. you have to pay forever including marked up junk food and crappy shampoo to survive in prison industry.

[@daCubanaqt]

What if the person doesn’t want help? What do you then? We used to have a lot more state psychiatric facilities in this country, but they were slowly closed started in the late 60s. I think more people were forced into care by the state back then. Now, you’d be violating someone’s civil rights. How do you win?

[@tessaducek5601]

@@daCubanaqt You don't . My friends mom has lived on the streets in San Francisco for decades. Her brother and the city got her a tiny apartment. She just doesn't want to live like that. She went back to the street.

[@Kim-yy4zd]

@@tessaducek5601my mom finally just got a apartment of her own after decades . She has been living on the streets for years by choice . And she has been at her apartment maybe 4 times in 6 months . :(

[@paulamcdonald8905]

Something I found so touching was the reaction of the defense lawyer and his assistant when the "Not guilty" verdict was read. It was very evident that they were very happy for their client; they both had tears in their eyes as they hugged her. Despite her obviously being mentally incompetent, they treated her with dignity and affection. Very warming.

[@TikiTorcher]

The Assistant is Serial R*pist who no longer practices 🤨

[@michelleboldan5]

@@TikiTorcherand ? What does that have to do with this case ?

[@Findpepperbridge]

Wow! She sat in jail for 10 + years when she was found not guilty… that’s insane

[@gracemunich1476]

injustice…definitely a despicable sickening situation

[@maryt2196]

Yeah, she was in prison for so long because the lawyers were going back and forth on issues...and her lawyer said it was a good place for her... They believe she lied and said she set the fire to protect her son.. that's clear thinking in one way... I think she did set the fire but wasn't responsible for it in the way a "normal" person would be.. one of the rare times I've ever watched one of these shows and felt sorry for the defendant

[@NurseMilkshake716]

10 yrs before trial??? That's insane.

[@youuuknooow7699]

I bet she'll be sane enough to sue the courts and police department! 🕵️‍♂️🕵️‍♂️

[@jlkitz1775]

This case was stuck in court for 10 years BEFORE it went to trial?! WTH, this country's judicial system is so freaking broken 🤨🤦🏾‍♀️

[@rocioaguilera3555]

It's incredible that an obviously mentally challenged person is found competent to go to trial. Ten years in prison and without treatment. Outrageous!!!. What an excellent lawyer Mrs. Hilton had. That kind of attorneys make me be sure that there's kindness and compassion in this world.

[@marydungan6748]

She didn't spend 10 years in prison. She spent 10 years in a mental hospital.

[@michelleboldan5]

@@marydungan6748they said prison

[@marydungan6748]

@@michelleboldan5 They said mental hospital. I heard it.

[@PamiShoodrani]

@@marydungan6748Then you're hearing things. Listen from 17:30. People like you who falsely assert facts, are annoying. michelleboldan5 is correct. You are wrong.

[@kentdouglass1001]

I can't believe the system, with all respect, put her through this when from the very beginning she was obviously incompetent. Really sad story from every angle.

[@ameliashostak4764]

So at the VERY end, I understood that her defense was saying not only is she mentally incompetent , but because she thought her son had maybe set fire, THAT'S why she gave a confession...I didn't realize that until the very last few mins for the show...I thought her lawyer was saying she did set the fire, but legally she didn't understand the ramifications, and therefore was NOT guilty. I just SO shocked they took that woman to trial in the first place. A WHOLE family just wiped out in a blink of an eye, it's horribly tragic! I really hope wherever the family is, they're all together!

[@josephinepeery6938]

What a wonderful defence lawyer, what a wonderful human being 💯🙏

[@georgieeve2026]

There's no way i could be locked up for that long and not end up convincing myself that I did the crime. She is very strong. I appreciate that her attorney stuck by her for 10 years. I hope she has a lot of support to live the rest of her life. God bless ♡

[@viylangager4020]

Absolutely!! He is a hero!!!

[@noelettemason7065]

Her son definitely has a hand in this sick crime.

[@MrHlywd]

right! I feel like he set her up to do it! Poor lady. She clearly isn’t mentally all there to make rational decisions. He wanted them dead. So crazy.

[@chadpayne956]

Well, it's a good thing you're not a cop. They rely on tricky things called evidence your feelings don't really matter

[@TikiTorcher]

⁠@@chadpayne956Good thing you’re not a police officer because you are less than intelligent. If you’re not intelligent enough to hypothesize, you’re not intelligent enough to know where to look for evidence. And evidence isn’t “tricky”.

[@lindaowsley5333]

@@chadpayne956 "I feel" here just means "I hypothesize based on what they are saying". I hypothesize the same thing. The evidence? He said this fire would happen and it did. She is severely mentally ill. Guess but not proven: he knew how to manipulate his mother.

[@justmontina]

It seems like she may have been better off in prison where she at least would be getting free meals and being cared for.

[@Mykids-yq1kl]

I thought that same thing. Her OWN ATTORNEY specifically stated the same thing!!

[@BEAUTYnIQ]

1O years.. ?? this defies her right to a speedy trial.. should hav presented that for dismissal..

[@johnatkins3017]

She has some reputable advisors. Sitting Bull is a biggie.

[@robertlove9796]

Tamron Hall is an excellent presenter of the facts. Court TV is excellent also. Keep up the great work, Rob from Adelaide, Australia.

[@WVgrl59]

Tamron Hall's sister was murdered.

[@denisejeffery3602]

Totally agree with you.

[@donnamariedavidson5065]

​@@WVgrl59 really? That's horrible!!

[@athena8729]

LOL all she does is say what's coming next after a commercial

[@virg0_lem0nade]

@@athena8729- no, Athena, if you had watched literally even the very beginning of the video you would know that isn't true 🤣

[@virginiapurvis3917]

They planning this together and used the mother’s mental health as a means to avoid responsibility for her crime. She killed 5 people. 5 people died over custody and visitation issues. 😮.

[@Alan-ug7nl]

I think so as well. This was calculated.

[@MissysAngels]

FYI: YOU CAN NOT BE COMPENSATED FOR SITTING IN JAIL WAITING TRIAL NO MATTER HOW LONG - A WRONGFUL CONVICTION THAT IS EVENTUALLY OVERTURNED IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET MONEY - SHE WAS NEVER CONVICTED…

[@ivavulaj]

That is right

[@Deenique16]

So sad this happens to so many people

[@FaithandNova]

Yes you can who told you a person couldn’t? They can most definitely sue for being wrongfully imprisoned. It's legal to sue for that in 35 states

[@dennisbenschop1048]

What strikes me is that the son leaves his mother before and after living on the streets.Just heartless person.And I agree with one of the comments:His arrogancy replying to the defense attorney shows someone knowing of the mother's mental state and insinuating about the possibility of fire to MUM (Previous night's phonecall)who then in her precarious mental state acts it out...while he stands on the side and watches it all play out exactly as he had planned (spoken out)...Well there is a GOD up there and he wiĺl avenge the lifes of those 5 members of the family dying this horrible dead.

[@drikabrown99]

I am sorry, but if she gets angry at the next person, she will again burn them and be innocent? Even if she had mental issues, she should be in a mental facility being treated.

[@debbie4893]

No apoligies. You are right

[@tracyfins]

I believe she did it. She might not understand the consequences of her actions but I think she’s guilty.

[@missypuffin8985]

Agree. She acted well....bet they told her not to wear her teeth or brush her hair.

[@beautifuldiva0208]

I looked for this comment

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

​@@missypuffin8985 😮

[@maryt2196]

Agreed I don't understand a lot of the legal issues they were going at.. but I do think this woman was guilty but totally mentally incompetent... What about guilty but insane?

[@sharonsmalls6846]

I agree!! I believe that her son discussed it with her and then she did it. She murdered that family.

[@asahel980]

once his lawyers in early scenes of the video said/infer his client is better off inside prison , thats spoiler alert.

[@aidamartinez2445]

She did it killed5 people and he wants them to set her free Terrible

[@mariaslavinski1588]

This woman is so messed up day after day in court she was bored and her hair was so crazy looking but 10yrs is ridiculous to take to go to trial!!!! Bless the family who died❤

[@TheUglyDoctor]

People including kids were burned alive! Is that lost on everyone?! Has the world gone mad?😫

[@TessieD]

No one is really burned alive they most likely died of smoke inhalation and didn’t feel themselves burning after the fact

[@EchoJ]

I can’t help but wonder if the ethnicity of the victims as well as the defendant is playing a part here, bcos honestly, I’m surprised to see this much sympathy for someone with a mental illness, too. I mean, she can be mentally challenged AND guilty of the crime of arson and involuntary manslaughter or something akin to negligent homicide (to be fair, I think 2nd degree murder charges were inappropriate, considering the circumstances and the suspect’s clear disabilities; the DA should’ve sought lesser charges, and I bet the jury would’ve convicted). These things need not be mutually exclusive. As a side note, I do believe Kathleen’s son put the idea in her head, knowing that his mother had the mental capacity of a child (and other mental issues).

[@TheUglyDoctor]

@@EchoJ yeah I hear you on everything. and perhaps she did or didn't. Just seems no focus on victims and no search for truth

[@tessaducek5601]

@@EchoJ You must be new to crime shows or just like to play the whiny race card. VICTIMS are rarely if ever remembered in trials. They become statistics. It is all about the rights of the defendant. And this one primarily focused upon the fact that she was mentally challenged. They did talk more about the family on another program that covered this case.

[@sheribrougham4863]

They would have been long dead before the flames got them.

[@maryrussell6072]

The son could've got someone to clock him into work,he then had time to start the fire.The mother's not swift enough to have pulled this off

[@JacquelineAngell-w5c]

Tamron always looks so beautiful 💗

[@anisezettecarey2448]

She Finally Started Saying I DIDNT DO IT…

[@Nefertiti0403]

That man did it. Probably paid someone

[@missshauna5101]

Agreed 🤝

[@ladyempire5921]

Nah...she did that! At least she did 10yrs smh Absolutely tragic.

[@ailsabyrne4152]

@@ladyempire5921 Ye, I feel the same. Ok so she's found not guilty so are they now looking for the real arsonist. I believe she did it, but mentally couldn't understand the ramifications ie: 5 people died.

[@dianesquires9987]

I suspect her son who hired someone to burn the house down. Shame - glad the poor woman is acquitted.

[@fredajordan5704]

Diane I feel the same way.

[@jonid8365]

Every single day we get futher from the rights awareded to American under the constitution. The right to a speedy trial ..? Who gives this woman her decade back? But for the grace of God go I

[@VeeAmericanEagle]

Lynn, Massachusetts is 10 mins away from me and I was only 13yo when this happened

[@marciraney9533]

I do think her attorney is a sterling person though. That poor family who perished and the traumatized neighbors drsperately trying to save the victims, also the trauma suffered by the firefighters. The asshole son gets off scott free.

[@reehoneybee123]

That is a lawyer I would want backing me he was amazing

[@lunagoodhart5489]

She didn't do it & that so called confession wasn't in her words. An appalling work of fiction

[@jonid8365]

It was at HER OWN LAWYERS discretion she was locked up for a decade??? He determined it was in her best interest?? Seriously? A decade?? Soviet gulag style of justice for the poor & fragile in America

[@vida2515]

The son set up his mum, knowing her mental hea, I believe he manipulated his mother….

[@personalcheeses8073]

Course he did 😂😂

[@jaredmumbauer7049]

He didn't even have to, He is the one who did it, everyone in Lynn knows it and it's not the only time he has had his hand in murder. Absolutely facts. I personally know him he has always had hateful character and just awful person . No one can change my mind.

[@missshauna5101]

@@jaredmumbauer7049 dam

[@lindaoheff9169]

Yep.. first thing I thought…or he had someone else do it and made his mother walk the area..either way he is responsible!

[@lindaoheff9169]

IMHO of course!

[@magdasmith1421]

The family didn't get justice.😢

[@realtalkwithLorin]

Her son had an alibi. So if he didn't do it and she didn't do it then who did it?

[@stephaniewilliams1764]

"we need 2 deal with mental behavioral health issues b4 they rise 2the level of crime" I could've said it any better

[@brianmouland209]

This mental health excuse is getting tired.

[@myunknownland9272]

So her delusions of being equitted were right? Even if it took 10 years? Those poor lives lost.

[@juliocaballero2812]

Who is in charge of Ms. Tamron wardrobe??????

[@magdasmith1421]

I'm sure she did it - she might have mental problems, however, I believe she did.

[@catherinefarah8468]

For sure she committed Arson. She knew what she was doing. It was carefully planned. I would have found her guilty on reasons of insanity. She does have mental problems but at the time of the fire, she carefully planned on setting the fire. She should have been found guilty and sent to a mental facility to get help.

[@wendydebois1685]

I agree with you

[@2tone2475]

If it was your special ed mom or aunt you wouldn't be saying that. Also it's called, "reasonable doubt" regardless of arson murder etc you can literally know someone did something but proving it regardless of the defendant's state of mind is part of due process.

[@MissyB-M]

700 detectives? Wow!

[@lynettejoubert4291]

All drs said she was incompetent....and she definitely looks incompetent.....maybe she did it but IMO It looks like she did not comprehend the implications at all....sad case for sure

[@sheribrougham4863]

Great, so she obviously has previous mental health issues and personality disorders that never go away. Why the hell did they not put her in a psychiatric facility instead of prison. So she was on the street and ended up in prison for 10 years. So she has a roof over her head, 3 squares a day, and mental treatment. She gets found not guilty and tossed back on the street.

[@carlitapphotos]

Wow that lawyer was amazing in his fight for her! Sorry for the lost of this family! I believe the son did it. It’s no way he said that and suddenly the house caught fire. His arrogant attitude on the stand tells me everything I need to know. So sad! 😢

[@aquinoloayza8822]

He was in work, it was Kathleen. I should know-I am her Grandson and I don’t talk to any of the family involved on otherside.

[@DiddlyD-xx2ih]

​@@aquinoloayza8822I'm sorry for what your family has been through, but I could never have found her guilty.

[@aquinoloayza8822]

@@DiddlyD-xx2ih well she is

[@haroot.azarian]

I see bullshit for what it is! clearly she should have at least been found not guilty on the reason of insanity, and been put in a mental insitutuion indefinitely. so that she would not be a danger to society or herself! justice was not served! and frankly all the posts here praising the defense team makes me want to puke!

[@TRILLTALKTV]

to me its more likely the son paid someone to do it.

[@katiecam7383]

She didn't do it I know her and her family well

[@kariudo1]

100% her son set this up. She was a scapegoat.

[@lawaunagrimes2555]

Excellent I love you Mrs.T.Hall

[@cewe2003]

I definitely didn’t expect that outcome. Wow. Defense attorney must have been amazing. My heart goes out to the victims of that fire.

[@shirleysmith6131]

If she's competent then so is just about everyone else.

[@lisavizzini9609]

There's no way she was competent to stand trial or to assist with her defense....

[@Noellevrr]

A DECADE?! Absolutely not

[@sigmalady07]

I’ve watched this twice and I’m still confused

[@Deenique16]

About what?

[@GrimReaper1971]

this woman should have never walked the streets...she was messed up from the very very beginning

[@dammitamber]

I watched the video you did about Sam Poss. I live in the neighborhood where it all went down, I know the family of one person involved. I’d like to see an update on that, it’s wild to live where something so horrific happened and to know people involved. :( A lot of good people have been broken.

[@flex0.00]

If she didn't, then WHO did? There's nothing to cheer about those kids need justice

[@hansonallie]

Just a little too much “coincidence” for me as well…

[@kathypace6771]

Way did the building burn so fast? Why weren't there any fire escapes? Someone may have lit the fire but that is arson. The fault of the deaths are on the person who rented apartments that were not safe.

[@ZigSputnik]

Homes in the US are made out of wood.

[@janetthomas5471]

Now someone need to get her compensated for her 10 years of false incarceration! Assign Lawyer as Rep payee take care of her. Lord manifest this in her life in Jesus name. Amen

[@barbarapittmon2963]

Tno one give those five people life back. We are living in a evil world.

[@tessaducek5601]

What about all the lives lost due to war? Just this family huh?

[@brianmouland209]

Too bad about the children

[@moemoe096]

I believe the son did it because in 1999 timecard a were being used anyone could have punched him in or out. Was he trying to help his mom get out of jail? There was a witness fitting the description of his mother walking around the house? Could the son taken advantage of his mother’s mental health situation? Did he ever see his children again where did the mother and her two kids go so many unanswered questions. Our condolences to the family who lost their loved ones such a broken system.

[@MichikoRoseTap]

Awesome lawyer.

[@charlesjames1464]

Lawyers are something else..

[@ynwa7084]

Sad that she may have been safer and better cared for in jail then out of it.

[@Mykids-yq1kl]

Sooooo, the son had an IRON CLAD alibi, but the defense claimed he did it….. So, we just disregard that now?? I think she’s definitely impaired, but she should’ve been confined to a psychiatric hospital for the criminally insane.

[@Mykids-yq1kl]

Five people died and NOBODY was held accountable for it. That’s NOT justice!!

[@angelaroberts7041]

Chile on some jobs I’ve worked I’ve seen people clock in and then leave work. Or stay on the clock while they are out shopping and then return and clock out as if they have been there all alone

[@jennypham3998]

It so obvious she did it. I have a family member s like her, they slow but they do know what s going on and what they are doing.

[@GrimReaper1971]

she worked the system very well

[@nefertitifirst2001]

Just sick😢😢😢😢😢

[@SweetT601]

This is totally insane. She should be compensated for all those years. What happened to innocent till proven guilty. What happened to the right for a speedy trial! This made me sick.

[@youuuknooow7699]

I bet she'll find her sanity and sue the shoes off the police department!🕵️‍♂️🕵️‍♂️🕵️‍♂️🕵️‍♂️

[@cosmosrunner2468]

She was free to roam the streets. Another homeless crazy person. The son did it. Police incompetence.

[@donfontana8282]

I'm sorry but that defense attorney is a sleeve ball. He's making up what he's saying as he goes. These guys will say anything to get somebody off. Was she somewhat emotionally disturbed. i'm sure she was... Does that mean she didn't know what she was doing was wrong? Hell no.

[@TRILLTALKTV]

from what was shown on here, their investigation wasn't good. what got me is the eye witness coming out 10 years later. I don't think she could have came up with a plan like that with her sonor him making the plan trusting she carries it out. Its more likely he had someone do it but don't know if the police looked into that.

[@linda9115]

She is not right,her son set her up.

[@hansmir5443]

Some lawyers are as evil as the crimes they defend.

[@GrimReaper1971]

100% Real Talk

[@STLforEVER]

It looks like lady justice didn’t have her eyes covered this time. She should in a mental hospital till the day she dies. GUILTY

[@staciespur8293]

Oh my! Bless her heart! That's so sad!

[@spellingquestionable]

Jose Feliciano. A wonderful man with several hits under his belt.

[@isabellind1292]

🔥"Light My Fire"🔥💓

[@olbailey8606]

Wow. Such a complex case

[@lydiasinclair1126]

Love your outfit @Tamron Hall

[@MitziHart]

Always enjoy seeing what TH has on !! I’ve said it before,… she could wear an old potato sack and still look ‘stunning ✨

[@denisejeffery3602]

​@MitziHart . she could! Ses .just .. ..

[@Roy-w2o3f]

She did it.....The jury got it wrong....

[@Deenique16]

Doesn’t matter anymore. All those people are dead.

[@JaymelShea]

She stayed in jail for 10 years waiting to go to trial??? That's unheard of and absolutely absurd!!

[@claire664]

i do believe she mentally not stable and that she definitely did it

[@iggygirlsballersclub7819]

God always helps us, he sent that particular man/attorney to help because his heart was good.

[@bettyechols6405]

What about the speedy trial? This should have been dismissed

[@Ms.NeverPlayPretty]

How was she able to raise her son???

[@Deenique16]

They never went into detail about her personal life but maybe she had help or they acted like brother and sister. She was able to fend for herself and feed ,bathe etc so it’s not shocking she was able to take care of her son

[@missshauna5101]

Mentally challenged women have children. It's a natural thing.

[@FaithandNova]

She might have been well enough when he was younger and her mental health got worse as she aged.

[@angelamccrackin5243]

Very good question...

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

​@NeickhaSuPRA yes, not only was she capable of doing basic tasks, it was mentioned that people had stayed with her various times to help her.

[@shanteecoleman8003]

Tht bih was guilty 🤬 Idc Burned tht Family Up 😢🤧

[@cobrakaicyberdon]

What a lawyer. Hes the hero, in this case.

[@aidamartinez2445]

The attorney manipulated the poor juries… 😅😂😂😂😂

[@GothicPoet]

I believe she is guilty. All the evidence points to her. Also, if she was capable of gathering the items to set the fire she's capable of understanding right and wrong. She even confessed without being manipulated. That should have been a guilty judgement after she confessed. She literally murdered five innocent people for her son because she wanted to control her family and keep what she thought she lost. That's narcissistic. I would not feel safe with her in my neighborhood. I am mentally handicapped and I wouldn't hurt anyone and I understand laws. She showed no feelings for the victims but she was upset about her own situation instead. Defense attorneys can be very evil. He literally abused witnesses for his client and acts like it's okay because it's his job to help very dangerous criminals to be free from consequences. How is that justice? The reason no one has been converted for the murders is because the murderer was set free. She murdered five people by setting fire to their house.

[@mindysuarez1699]

So are they going to compensate her for her 10 yr incarceration?

[@carrietezeno6327]

So Sad Lives Was Loss 😢 How Can A Person Do This

[@fredajordan5704]

Carrie . So many subhumans on this earth. Only a subhuman can do this.

[@brendamcdonall5798]

It's " lives were lost ".

[@theanti-feminist5718]

The fit, superb ❤

[@feddavandermolen-quest8388]

The defence attorney is great. Salt of the earth person.

[@Deenique16]

17:32 10 years????

[@einienj3281]

So bc she confessed and doesn't lie, she's crazy?

[@MimiB1974]

The fact that this country can find money to jail people but not house them is disgusting

[@donfontana8282]

That poor family who lost their lives. They were the most pathetic and innocent victims I've ever encountered.

[@marciraney9533]

Hmmm...after watching this I think she did it. Possibly at the direction of her son.