Tenere 700 Decat - Weight Saved, Smoother Throttle, Sound & HP Gain?

[@downbytheriver501]

Love the sound of my full HP corse exhaust system.

[@otrkoln9623]

If you do NOT have a significant increase of power, especially in the mid range, your A/F ratio is not correct or you made some mistakes while installing it. Keep in mind that all these newer bikes run quite lean when comming from factory. Adding a complete open exhaust will make the mixture even leaner. And this might, if you do not adjust fuel, might also cause engine damages...

[@kymcopyriot9776]

Thanks Johannes! Louder is better most of the time although covering long distances at constant throttle it can be annoying. But that’s why we wear earplugs, right? I will also add my vote in favour of a custom dyno tune. The lamda sensor doesn’t do the whole job. Dyno runs are expensive but the only way to go in my opinion. Looking at the various lean areas and smoothing it all out with extra fuel is a real education. And there’s no substitute for hard numbers rather than ‘feel’. Mind you, at the end of the day it’s not a race bike, so all this depends on your care factor.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Regarding a dyno run vs a piggy back - my knowledge is rather limited, but the fuel commander I have is supposed to be pretty advanced. It’s plugged into all sensors on the bike and uses the data from these to find the correct tune. I’m sure a dyno run is still much better though!

[@JohnSmith-ef8nr]

​@@JohannesDalenMC I had a remap, it makes no real difference.

[@whitedrguy6503]

I think just about every bike I have owned I changed the muffler or full exhaust and all I ever got from it was maybe a little weight saving but definitely more noise. Now I just run the standard exhaust, as for weight saving, I don’t think it makes any difference at all, sure you may lose 5 Kg but is it noticeable ? Probably not, and as for the cost, exhaust systems are ridiculously expensive. I have also found that the noise level is okay up to a point then it just becomes annoying and tedious after a few hours on the road, that constant droning or booming noise drives me mad, around town or for short rides it is fine but after 1 or 2 hours on a trip I am wishing for a little more peace and quite.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Changing end cap is a no brainer in my book. That along with a lithium battery and you can save several KGs for not a lot of money, but headers are definitely not mandatory. I ‘only’ paid 200€ for these, so I’m happy, but going full titanium for three times the price is a bit overkill. I think 5kg is great, but if it’s noticeable is another discussion 😅

[@whitedrguy6503]

@@JohannesDalenMC 5 Kg on a 200+ bike makes no difference, 15 or 20 would be good but depending where the weight is removed from makes a difference. A bit like adding a centrestand for example, it adds 5 Kg to the bike but because the weight is so low it goes unnoticed, or adding or subtracting the weight of fuel from the T7 makes a noticeable difference, it still feels top heavy with a few litres in the tank but when it is full you know it. Weight saving itself is good but more important is where the weight is saved or added. The jury is still out with me on lithium batteries, for the sake of a little weight I still prefer the bike to start when I hit the button, lithium can still be a bit hit and miss on a cold morning. 😂😂😂😂

[@JohnSmith-ef8nr]

You need to remove the baffle from the exhaust, its held in with one spotweld you can drill out, sounds awesome without it.

[@rykielkark]

Hi mate, what about the clearance between the exhaust and the swingarm? Does it touch if the rear shock is in full extension? Thnx in advance.

[@joras18]

Hey brother, I’m thinking about doing a decat on my T7. Can you please link the O2 censor extension for me please? Also, how can I go about getting a tune and a power commander as well? Thank you in advance brother

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Hey man! The O2 sensor cable is from Fueldongles in Spain (can’t link here on YT), but check with the manufacturer of the decat you go for first, they often supply the cable in the package. Getting a tune the proper way means taking your bike to a shop that does a dyno. A power commander is something you plug into the bike that changes the mapping. If you have a dyno shop nearby I’d recommend that. Hope this was helpful my friend 😊

[@glight5205]

I have installed a full black widow exhaust on my Tenere, I noticed significant different sound, better tork but I think I've lost horse speed, my bike cannot go above 190km as it used to be but I do not need it tbh.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Above 190 🤣 Thanks for sharing your experience. Better torque over top speed any day 😁

[@simonmallia2051]

sounds like your bikes down graded

[@Motovibes91]

Did you also change the intake/ filter and flash the ecu?

[@glight5205]

@@Motovibes91 only DNA filter stage 2, I didn't touch the ecu

[@glight5205]

@@simonmallia2051 I wouldn't say that, because the tork has significantly increased. I will give it one more test once I put the new tires on it.

[@matthewallison6823]

maybe I was unlucky but my black widow decat put the check engine light on. puts the eu5 o2 sensor where the eu4 wS with the loom extension. my extension was not very good quality and I think water got in, that or moving the sensor further down made it freak out. ended up with the cat back on and a motoes skid plate.

[@PatchedBandit]

Thanks for the video. I have the HP corse can and midpipe but still with the OEM euro 5 headers... maybe I will do the same even though the weight saving was less than I expected.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

It isn't significant, but the sound improvement definitely was!

[@sm400xr]

Thanks again Is it called the rapid bike evo by dimsport? Exclusive for Yamaha Tenere?

[@fingerscrossed2317]

How much cost for 1.5 kg ? You are crazy if you do that. Better invest some in suspension my opinion.

[@motonoob-i2d]

Noice. I’m thinking about new headers/no cat to go with my Mivv Dakar

[@matthewallison6823]

I got a little screen too for the wind chop on my forhead, now it gets me in the throat 😂 and right where my bloody ears are on my head!

[@jimistalione16]

your ears are on your throat????????? :o

[@matthewallison6823]

No, that's why there's an "and" in the sentence. 😂

[@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel]

Good video :)

[@danbrown3103]

Yeah i know this channel. He gets an aftermarket one piece front fender and fork guard combo from somewhere. Its too heavy. I like the standard t7 low front guard.

[@Gwiedert]

I know where you got that windscreen tip got from😜 Nice upgrade! Working on a custom linkpipe and exhaust hanger currently.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

You’ve inspired more than one mod on this bike 😁 Nice, looking forward to seeing it, only custom is good enough for the mighty Guido! 🫡

[@Gwiedert]

@@JohannesDalenMC Lol, I certainly don't have anything to back up that status.. But glad it worked out for you too👍

[@MLeitao]

To me the heat it's the worst thing, I've considered the the decat, but I'm afraid it will be to loud, like you said too much louder sometimes don't sound good, I don't even took out the dB killer from the muffler. I have the black widow brushed 300mm muffler, it's been a good surprise for what I've paid, I've seen Akrapovic leaking from the rivets and this one not a single leak. Edit, I've also did something similar with pvc, the test was done with a some industrial detergent bucket... After that I bought some pvc, but I use it under the oem wind shield with risers

[@JohannesDalenMC]

I can imagine heat being an issue, not exactly the case up here.. I wouldn't call it obnoxiously loud at all, but slightly louder.

[@MLeitao]

@@JohannesDalenMC the T7 it's a good bike to go to the beach and avoid traffic... Today I already took a spin in shorts 😀 But before I bought mine I had a Euro 4 version of a friend for a couple of weeks, and it looked more cooler, but I can't be shure, it was a long time ago, but it has some logic.

[@Dylan-vo6bw]

hey, does any header work with other slip ons? I have got a hp corse track short muffler, and want to order Akra headers

[@runevikan]

Would be nice if you could comment on fuelconsumption on longer rides with the airfilter, decat and Rapid.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

I'll see what I can do - ordered tickets for the boat from Norway to Germany five minutes ago for my trip down to the Pyrenees, will have plenty of time to look at the fuel range! 😅

[@runevikan]

@@JohannesDalenMC Thanks, ride safe and have fun :)

[@rfk76]

Hey there Johannes, great to see you again! I just watched this video and I am happy to see you still modifying your T7 (I like the custom windshield a lot!) :) After your upcoming trip to Spain, please share your honest reflections after riding a long distance with that loud exhaust. Reason I am asking is that I recently tried all possible combinations of db-killers to my Wings exhaust and finally decided to stay with the most silent setup... I liked the mean sound and the pops, but in the end going silently was more important - both for others around me, but also to my ears. Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Cheers and have an awesome trip 😄👊

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Hey my dear friend, hope all is well 😊 I will give you an update for sure. The 701 is louder than the T7, so going for the most silent option is probably the way to go for long term ear health. Thanks a lot Rafal 😊

[@Krith220]

Nice, some sound while riding would have been cool. Also do you plan on putting back the original headers with the cat before registration every year? I doubt decat is legal in most European countries?

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Should have, but not sure how I would have recorded that 🥴 The irony here is that Norway is the strictest country in the world with regulations and laws, but luckily we dont have yearly inspection of bikes. They have that in Sweden and Denmark, but not here 😁

[@sm400xr]

Does the Tenere need a “Re Map” after removing the Cat headers? Thankyou

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Good question, I don’t know enough to tell. I have a Dimsport power commander that automatically adjusts the fueling, so I don’t think I need a re map.

[@sm400xr]

Interesting, do you recommend the dimsport? I was going to get a dynojet commander instead

[@JohannesDalenMC]

It’s too early for me to recommend it or not. At a later point I will remove it and try it back to back with stock - at that point I will be able to give a better answer 😊 I can report that my friend has a World Raid with the same Dimsport and is very happy though.

[@cathodion]

Where did you rear indicators go?

[@JohannesDalenMC]

They are there if you look closely, but I don't recommend those indicators at that spot, not visible at all from the rear..

[@teekosk]

300€ fine in Finland if you decat your bike.. Plus you probably lose your plate so some extra cost re-register your bike after installing catalysator back… 😬

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Yikes! 😅

[@Roger_Gustafsson]

Shit, never ever heard anyone getting a fine for that in Sweden. Very common immediately getting rid of them especially on some Austrian bikes that comes with a toaster/grill from factory. 😂

[@TheWanderingGeezer]

The main reason to change exhaust is weight loss.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

I absolutely agree!

[@OSR_1]

👍🏽👍🏽 sounds good

[@JohannesDalenMC]

CP2 engine is the best sounding engine there is 😉

[@OSR_1]

@@JohannesDalenMC 😜 Ducati might have something to say about that haha

[@Gorilladome4664]

only just over 3lbs weight savings? thats not really worth it....

[@painsrides]

Doesn't seem like this decat was worth the cost & time of the "upgrade". No power gain, no improved throttle, increased noise and only 1.5kg lighter 🤔

[@JohannesDalenMC]

I disagree my friend, 1.5 kg is quite good. The Black Widow pipes was around 200$, and I don’t think that is too bad 😁

[@painsrides]

@@JohannesDalenMC All that matters is that you're happy with the change 👍 Its probably still too cool to tell but have you noticed less engine heat with the cat gone?

[@JohannesDalenMC]

It’s still so cold here that I’d take the heat from the cat any day 😅 No I haven’t really, and I’ve never been bothered by the heat from the cat before either.

[@MrQazy]

I'd love to do that to my T7, but in Denmark if get cought with out the cat it's a 7000kr fine (~930 Euro) the FIRST time, it doubles from there on. 3rd time they take the license plate.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Probably best to obey the rules then, a decat doesn’t do that much difference. At the same time I’m a bit tired all these rules.

[@simonmallia2051]

wast of time and money custom map it and feel a difference .... your bike is getting tuned using a dirt cheep lander sensor that by definition will result in a less than optimum tune.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Hmm, the Rapid bike evo plugs into every sensor on the bike. I'm no expert on this field, but I think it's considered to be pretty thorough. Do you have any experience with it?

[@simonmallia2051]

​@@JohannesDalenMC yes . and the Yamaha has mapping for gears not just closed loop and my bike was mapped on a dyno jet 200 i load ... at the bottom of this dyno is a box of lander sensors .. this is because as soon as there is a unexpected reading the lander sensor is switch for a brand new item . as its on a sliding scale of efficiency from day one also back to back a good tuner will always make safer power than a auto tune (face )

[@Itisbp]

*(lambda sensors)

[@thorheimdal2235]

👍🙂🙋‍♂️🇧🇻.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

🇳🇴 Hvor holder du til, Thor?