A bit of trivia: when Britain intercepted the Zimmerman Telegram, they told the US they got it from an agent in the Mexican embassy because they didn't want the US to know they were able to read all transatlantic telegrams.
@DanS0443 жыл бұрын
Cheeky chaps
@sebastiangruenfeld1413 жыл бұрын
They weren't reading all transatlantic telegrams, only the German ones. Also, the US, too, read the German communication lines.
@janjone17063 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiangruenfeld141 yes and the NSA only intefer russian and chinese communication
@fatpenguin00893 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiangruenfeld141 He said "were able" not "did"
@XXXTENTAClON2273 жыл бұрын
They’re so good at this that nowadays they spy on the American population and give the information back to the CIA, and the CIA spies on the British population and gives it back to MI6, circumventing domestic surveillance laws. Cheeky bastards
@dreamingsamurai3 жыл бұрын
"VOTE WILSON!" "So he stays employed!" Lol. An honest and true campaign slogan if I ever saw one.
@Killerbee47123 жыл бұрын
@SMA Productions What are you talking about
@lucasbeck13913 жыл бұрын
@SMA Productions how is that relevant to the original question?
@EmyrDerfel3 жыл бұрын
@SMA Productions we're joking about Wilson here. You're doing it wrong
@JarrodFrates3 жыл бұрын
Wilson very nearly lost the 1916 election to Charles Evan Hughes (3800 votes out of one million in California settled it) but believed that the nation was going to war sooner or later, probably sooner. Wilson drafted a memo that would see him ask his vice president and his Secretary of State to resign, then appoint Hughes as Secretary of State (then first in line for succession after the vice president), then resign the presidency so that Hughes could immediately take up a war policy and see it through, rather than have to wait for his inauguration in March 1917. He believed that doing so would allow Hughes to have the time he needed to formulate and implement the necessary policies to get involved in the war.
@woodduck21783 жыл бұрын
SMA Productions your just wrong.
@Nick-kz6dg3 жыл бұрын
“Dealing with Germany now would rid the world of an autocratic threat in the future.” Hitler: *“And I took that personally.”*
@DragonJohn3 жыл бұрын
I was going to argue the point until I realized I didn't know the specific definition of 'autocratic.' Thank you for giving me the impetus to educate myself
@Jackhanmma70992 жыл бұрын
@@DragonJohn it means your automatically cratic
@jeankutzer15562 жыл бұрын
We just kept Germany from getting a pipeline finished from Russia. That should teach em! Of course it led to war between Russia and Ukraine but what do we care!
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
@@jeankutzer1556 Nobody about your schzio reality, fascistbot.
@algorithmsavior3820 Жыл бұрын
@@jeankutzer1556 honestly, Russia was gonna attack someone eventually
@LordOfNothingreally3 жыл бұрын
Woodrow Wilson: "Now, or in 20 years" History: "How about both?"
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis97143 жыл бұрын
Alternetive history, neither.
@Polai0103 жыл бұрын
200th like :D
@camelopardalis843 жыл бұрын
If only it had been just 20 years later, in 1937.
@matpk3 жыл бұрын
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Compare 1930s Nazi Germany Vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO Project.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis97143 жыл бұрын
@@matpk How ignorant of you. Communists and nazis are nothing alike. And I in my vidoes do not talk of such irrelevent matters I focus on the hear of the issue.
@galatheumbreon68623 жыл бұрын
“Dead men have bad credit” lmao, the dry humour is always great
@clonesolar3 жыл бұрын
@SMA Productions .??
@clonesolar3 жыл бұрын
@Cyrus The Great Father of Civillization yup.
@randomcanadian66903 жыл бұрын
Also normally dead men's debt is left with the family but who would pay another countries debt
@XXXTENTAClON2273 жыл бұрын
The narrator is British theyre so good at dry humour
@thehistoryvideogameandgame47303 жыл бұрын
Except in crime shows
@lei3023 жыл бұрын
"Conquered, defeated nations aren't so good at paying there money back" France when making the treaty of Versailles: frankly I don't care
@SharkyMcSnarkface3 жыл бұрын
“I missed the part where that’s my problem.”
@banner1002 жыл бұрын
*their
@lei3022 жыл бұрын
@@banner100 😳
@TLBgaming03302 жыл бұрын
@@SharkyMcSnarkface Bully France
@dabbasw312 жыл бұрын
Fun-Fact: France and UK never paid the inter-allied war debts completely. The Soviet Union did not pay anything, because... communism, not tsarism. :o)
@Avghistorian773 жыл бұрын
1:18 Love how the ‘Who Cares’ part of the meter is represented by Switzerland! Oh, and at 3:01 with the ‘Hated Belgium!’ I love these videos!
@philipcoggins95123 жыл бұрын
TBH everyone hates Belgium, and they do share a border with the Dutch...
@Avghistorian773 жыл бұрын
@Abraham Caudillo right back at you! Okay
@DCrandomwords3 жыл бұрын
@@philipcoggins9512 Exactly. Only people I hate in this world are those who are intolerant of other peoples’ cultures and the Dutch.
@baoparty3 жыл бұрын
Why does the US hate Belgium at that time?
@DCrandomwords3 жыл бұрын
@@baoparty I think it’s in reference to the fact that Germany sent troops through Belgium and brought the UK into the war. Most Americans at that time couldn’t care less about Belgium and thus didn’t join until it directly affected the US.
@marvelgeek95773 жыл бұрын
Wilson's Campaign slogan: "He kept us out of war!" Wilson after getting re-elected: *Declares war on Germany*
@benx62643 жыл бұрын
yes, "kept" as in past tense - not "will keep" as in the future
@Mitchmeow3 жыл бұрын
Literally a month after the inauguration, at that
@Birkebeiner10663 жыл бұрын
*surprised Pikachu face*
@joelker413 жыл бұрын
Much like FDR after him and all the way to today Democrat Party Presidents lie. A lot. An astoundingly large amount.
@bobmcbob493 жыл бұрын
American politics in a nutshell.
@jessicajujubean50042 жыл бұрын
My grandpa had a friend who was a world war 1 veteran. He had a bugle in a display case as a souvenir. He came across some dead people from another platoon and they searched their bodies looking for bullets and rations. He found a bugle on one soldier that was made at the factory that was across the street from his parents house and kept it.
@YellowstoneKevin3 жыл бұрын
I love how History Matters has the correct borders of countries for the time period. I’ve legit seen WWI and WWII videos with modern borders and it drives me nuts.
@Chocolatnave1233 жыл бұрын
maybe dont watch history videos made by high school kids
@AjarTadpole72023 жыл бұрын
@@Chocolatnave123 As a high school kid, that's actually really offensive considering we can only draw 1936 borders and not modern borders(at least at my school)
@athrowaway34873 жыл бұрын
@@AjarTadpole7202 HOI4itis
@AjarTadpole72023 жыл бұрын
@@athrowaway3487 Exactly that
@ZechsMerquise733 жыл бұрын
@@AjarTadpole7202 gotta start playing Vicky 2, CK3, and EU4, and binging Wikipedia/Google Maps to learn the rest of the borders
@jacksondunn32843 жыл бұрын
"We brought shotguns," Is the best sutble joke ever.
@user-eb8ti2vf8t3 жыл бұрын
Kaiserchino mad?
@noahway133 жыл бұрын
Explain...?
@OnlyGrafting3 жыл бұрын
@@noahway13 one of the few things Germany issued a diplomatic protest for in WW1 were the Americans using shotguns, or Trench Guns, when doing their share of Trench hopping. They bad boys were lethal in confined spaces like trenches with soo many corners. Essentially, the yanks were the only ones using them and it was seen as if they were being gassed and not gassing back. Except both sides were gassing each other but only the yanks were using shotguns.
@doubleb4rreldarrell3 жыл бұрын
i died hahahahahahaha
@greg_mca3 жыл бұрын
@@OnlyGrafting lethal when they weren't jamming, had proper ammo, and when they actually got to the front that is, which was almost never
@GaryLaughlin03023 жыл бұрын
"they dropped out to try the whole 'civil-war thing' " -> choked on my water and nearly died
@nikeday42563 жыл бұрын
Haha, yeah and it’s crazy how they succeeded. Guess that’s why they call it a revolution.
@davidmitchell38812 жыл бұрын
That has to be one of the best one liners ever. Given how many are in this channel that's a very high bar to reach
@6372-s4k3 жыл бұрын
As far I know american companies could ignore German patents, because America joined the war. This was highly profitable for them. Especially in chemical industry but also some other fields Germany was leading at the start of the 20th century. I don't know if that was a reason to join as well, but it's definitely a nice side effect for American companies
@Helo22373 жыл бұрын
You forgot that german companies were expropriated in the US. E.g. Merck
@joehouston16503 жыл бұрын
@@Helo2237 Fun bit of firearms trivia, right before WW1 Mauser sued Springfield for making M1903 Springfield rifles (essentially copies of the German Mauser rifles), but the year the court case finally started, WW1 started and the US nationalized a lot of German, Austria, and Ottoman patents on stuff. So after the war ended in 1919, The US government had to pay millions to Mauser and DWM for patent infringement.
@nehankaranch21493 жыл бұрын
@@joehouston1650 kinda bullshit
@GD10823 жыл бұрын
Also the US nationalized German shipping companies.
@alan-sk7ky3 жыл бұрын
Factoid: before ww1 Vickers were paying patent royalties to Krupp for clockwork shell fuses, while the war was ongoing book was kept on numbers and Krupp was paid after the war, although a downwards amount was agreed after extensive negotiation etc. International arms trading, a dirty business eh...
@pridelander063 жыл бұрын
"Dealing with Germany now would rid the world of an autocratic threat in the future." *Some Austrian corporal fighting in the German army* : "Demnächst."
@galatheumbreon68623 жыл бұрын
Also an imperial Russian officer: Da
@breaderikthegreat32243 жыл бұрын
USA:Germany can't win as it is imperialist UK:Yeah Hehe, those imperialists can't win Hehe France:Imagine they make many nations with random borders which will cause decades of War. Or take our colonies and impose harsh treaties UK:*Hits Frabce* Shut up
@breaderikthegreat32243 жыл бұрын
@@galatheumbreon6862 Georgian
@reintaler63553 жыл бұрын
@@breaderikthegreat3224 Thought you were gonna say Also USA: How 'bout I twist this imperialism thing juuuuust a bit and try it myself?
@60iger293 жыл бұрын
...and keep the peacefully French and Brits in the colonization game for just a few more years.
@TopHatTITAN2 жыл бұрын
As a ship nerd, i love how History Matters had improved the model of Lusitania over the years. It's not perfect, but it's much better than before.
@Unownshipper2 күн бұрын
Yeah, I was just gonna say it looks pretty good.
@finw-k68053 жыл бұрын
The Entente's facial expressions when the US was holding up that 'you're saved' sign is probably the funniest and most accurate thing I've seen for a while
@kingmuddy58983 жыл бұрын
Accurate? How so
@asneakychicken3223 жыл бұрын
@@andreasfiltenborg4952 that's a great quote, definitely gonna use that one more.
@andreasfiltenborg49523 жыл бұрын
@@asneakychicken322 he also said that american civilsation was a civilsation of pariahs. I would encourage you read his works, but youll have to look up the quote yourself as youtube does not like his name. He is certainly not for those who like things as they are right now.
@kingmuddy58983 жыл бұрын
@@andreasfiltenborg4952 hmm, dont see the comment I wrote before, must be somehow been deleted, so I'll just summarize what I said 1. Juluis Evola, the person who said that quote, was infamous, yes, as a fascist and neo nazi who held antisemitic views and occult. 2. If France hates Americans so much why did the French write patriotic American songs, and replace French troops with soldiers from America? 3. The entente were on their knees for American help in WW1, they were looking for anything really, hundreds of thousands of fresh American troops to break the stalemate? Yes please. Only problem they voiced was that they didnt get to use the Americans however they wanted like they did with "their" Indians, canadians, and Anzacs. 4. Of course I know the atrocities Woodrow Wilson committed, I'm American of course I know my countries own history. Oh and by the way, us Americans dont give a shite about european aristocrats either
@kingmuddy58983 жыл бұрын
@@andreasfiltenborg4952 your encouraging him to read up on a fascists work? Why? Wait, dont tell me.....are you a fascist?
@Transmission_Rory3 жыл бұрын
The Americans also brought with them the largest collection of Charlie Chaplin films. This didn't sit well with one Captain Edmund Blackadder.
@email50233 жыл бұрын
*Chaplin
@bificommander74723 жыл бұрын
PS: Don't let him ever. Stop.
@user-njyzcip3 жыл бұрын
Who kindly offered Darling a "chocolate liqueur"
@necromancedkoatle3 жыл бұрын
Good way to keep morale higher that, a very cunning plan
@juliusmorgan22923 жыл бұрын
A ball bouncingly funny collection of films
@theidiotindisguise22633 жыл бұрын
Got to be said favorite part of the animations is when they are frolicking through the flowers gets me every time.
@LatvietisVidejais993 жыл бұрын
If we look a bit wider, USA has always hated their boats being attacked
@EndsBeginning3 жыл бұрын
@Gomu Gomu No Mi 1812 as well.
@jimmilton66443 жыл бұрын
@Gomu Gomu No Mi vietnam too
@albertoswald84613 жыл бұрын
@@jimmilton6644 , you're right!! The Tonkin Gulf incident ramped up that bag of worms!!!
@italia6892 жыл бұрын
@Gary Adame American Civil War, too. Look up "Star of the West."
@italia6892 жыл бұрын
Why we turned the other way when Bin Laden attacked the U.S.S. Cole, I do not know. The war on terror should have started right then and there.
@aaronashley18113 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered making a video on the U-2 "May Day" Incident? It was pretty big for its time, but not often discussed other than as a footnote in many history courses today, and I think the content lends itself well to your style of humor
@connorgolden43 жыл бұрын
Huh. This isn’t one of the usual “answers for questions we didn’t know about but we needed answered”.
@thunderbird19213 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd cover the Korean War a bit more. It's incredibly complicated, but the implications for all involved were huge.
@juanaragon92263 жыл бұрын
@@thunderbird1921 true I honestly would love to him cover the Korean War
@karlik48613 жыл бұрын
@@TheRatsintheWalls im just surprised that money played a bigger or equal role to the zimmer man telegram but i gues “Dead men have bad credit”
@ARG0T3 жыл бұрын
Right. I wish he would do more obscure topics or topics like these with a longer video format. But I guess you gotta pay the bills somehow.
@ecurewitz3 жыл бұрын
some of it I didknow, and some I didn't
@juancena32113 жыл бұрын
Hey bro I just took my US history midterm and your video saved my ass because I had to write an essay over WWI, appreciate your videos man, keep them up
@matthaught47073 жыл бұрын
It's consistently impressed me how your illustrations always have the correct weapons for each side, down to little things like the Langevisier sights on the Germans' Gewehr 98s. Given that the content almost never directly involves such martial minutia, it's even more impressive.
@imjustaquestion99223 жыл бұрын
French : I brought the artillery British: I brought the tanks Merica: WHO WANTS SHOTGUNS
@jjprulz3 жыл бұрын
Actually, shotguns were a big deal in trench warfare. They were so effective that the Germans protested their use.
@GearShotgun3 жыл бұрын
@@jjprulz wasn’t Germany the first ones to use poison gas?
@compresseddepression74033 жыл бұрын
@@jjprulz earliest known use of asking the devs to nerf the shotgun to balance war.
@aratirao90073 жыл бұрын
🟠 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE HISTORY MATTERS
@Mariner7973 жыл бұрын
@@GearShotgun Technically yes, though it was because they thought the French was using it first when they deployed tear gas, so the Germans used poison gas as retaliation. Doesn't really excuse it, though that entire was is kind of a cluster fuck.
@richardjohnson8796 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@CosmicCreeper993 жыл бұрын
“Dead men have bad credit” Lol.
@Marylandbrony3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the new pirates of the Caribbean movie.
@danzoom3 жыл бұрын
@Jonah Goldschmidt shaming minecraft profile pictures in 2021, huh?
@cptTK4213 жыл бұрын
@@Marylandbrony Dead Men Pay No Bills
@CosmicCreeper993 жыл бұрын
@Jonah Goldschmidt Yeah. So what?
@pramilashaktawat44293 жыл бұрын
⬜ SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE HISTORY MATTERS
@napoleonibonaparte71983 жыл бұрын
They joined so James Bisonette could easily influence the new small countries.
@jamesbissonette80023 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@FBISpyVan3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbissonette8002 The legend
@m.taufiqnurwansyah66073 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbissonette8002 love you
@tonylovato22173 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbissonette8002 the goat
@Yogiyokeskyo3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbissonette8002 The Boss
@MichaelThomas-be7gq3 жыл бұрын
Well done identifying the US loans angle as this is too often overlooked. Brilliant as always, short, punchy, witty, and spot on accurate.
@ku87213 жыл бұрын
"Governments like taxes" Truer words have never been spoken!
@oenrn3 жыл бұрын
"Taxes are not raised to carry on wars, wars are raised to carry on taxes." Thomas Paine
@Delgen19513 жыл бұрын
@@oenrn and to build such things as canals, roads and other minor conveniences of civilization, I know all the things that that includes.
@stochinblockin3 жыл бұрын
@@Delgen1951 Traditionally, canals, roads and other infrastructure was built by the individual states who levied their own taxes, lotteries and tolls to pay for them. The only roads allowed by the Constitution to be built by the Federal government prior to The Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways, was post roads. And the Federal involvement with the interstate system got around Constitutional limits by being first and foremost national defense, with civilian use a secondary byproduct.
@Delgen19513 жыл бұрын
@@stochinblockin Tell how does this counter the statement that taxes pay for the underpinnings of civilization, roads and all whiter or not they are federal unless paid by tolls provide the foundation of a civilization. Yes or no?
@stochinblockin3 жыл бұрын
@@Delgen1951 The way you are framing the question, I guess the answer would be "No". Unless you don't believe we have a Constitutional Republic where powers not delegated to the Federal government below to the states and individuals, which was historically how roads and "civilization" was created in America.
@Akirashiro4073 жыл бұрын
Britian and France: Join our war! America: No thanks Also britain and France: if we lose we can't pay you back *MEN TO THE BATTLEFIELD*
@galatheumbreon68623 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I laughed so hard at this, well done
@alexhusiev89733 жыл бұрын
OVER THERE
@Dommy5213 жыл бұрын
Eagle Screeches*
@Ghost123143 жыл бұрын
We need another great war, the big sleeping giant is waiting to do.... how should I say this? " to do some discouraged things."
@thunderbird19213 жыл бұрын
Funny how America went from joining wars late to being the first to arrive on the scene. *North Korea invades South Korea in 1950* North Koreans: Haha, knowing history, the Yanks will stay away! *American military suddenly shows up* America: What were you saying, punk? Get back across that parallel!
@LA20473 жыл бұрын
I'd always heard that Wilson had an ulterior motive for wanting to get the US into the war: The League of Nations. He was a big advocate of the league and felt that the US should play a pivotal role in how the post-war world would be carved up by this body and the treaties that would result. Well it's hard to claim you deserve a seat at the table when you didn't participate in the struggle and the US wasn't nearly the economic or military super power that rather automatically gives it a seat nowadays. So if Wilson wanted a say in the post-war set up and to see his League established, the US needed to be in the fight.
@golagiswatchingyou29662 жыл бұрын
Not really, the USA long before ww1 was already a sleeping giant, with massive resources, manpower and economic might, they were able to bring more soldiers in a year than most nations had during 3 years during the start of the conflict, the irony further being that the USA did not join the League of nations afterwards anyways so it was all just profit driven and made no sense for the USA to get involved in the war.
@danielcarithers33453 жыл бұрын
“To many American politicians, Europeans were always fighting over something.” How the turn tables
@savioblanc3 жыл бұрын
No wonder America got itself more involved in the Middle East as Europe got peaceful
@adygombos44693 жыл бұрын
The fighting had to keep going. If the Europeans didn't do their job anymore, the US stepped up.
@looinrims3 жыл бұрын
@@adygombos4469 what the hell pseudo intellectual crap?
@ordinaryperson-my7qr3 жыл бұрын
@@looinrims that's the rule
@rahileshanbi55513 жыл бұрын
@@savioblanc Practically, Europe has always been involved in the Middle East more than America.
@burnedexperiment3 жыл бұрын
Wilson: We need a federal income tax to sustain the war effort. Americans: But we wont need to keep paying taxes after the war, right? Wilson: ...
@ladygrey74253 жыл бұрын
Yep. People expecting federal and state governments to relinquish their newfound power after a crisis are always fooling themselves.
@PantherBlitz3 жыл бұрын
Close, but not quite. The federal income tax was initiated in 1913.
@nehankaranch21493 жыл бұрын
income tax also balanced out the alcohol tax since alcohol had been abolished
@jayman45693 жыл бұрын
@@ladygrey7425 the irony in this comment is brilliant. I mean just look at Australia right now, a perfect example of what you just said
@MoreEvilThanYahweh3 жыл бұрын
@@ladygrey7425 That's why I want to slap all the naive "if it saves even one life" useful idiots cheering the emergency powers being granted across the globe supposedly for the coof. These infringements make the War on Drugs or Terror look tame.
@darinarnold69763 жыл бұрын
James Bisonette touching all our lives through your great videos yet again ❤️
@Stozanume1233 жыл бұрын
Make a video how the asians reacted to the discovery of america ( chinese, arabs,persians,indians)
@Stozanume1233 жыл бұрын
@Minister Of Propaganda they have been destroyed but they still exist
@DanCooper4043 жыл бұрын
Asians technically discovered the Americas ~20,000 BC.
@alexrennison80703 жыл бұрын
Good idea.
@m.taufiqnurwansyah66073 жыл бұрын
@Minister Of Propaganda where you think Inuit or other native american from?
@princepscivitatis40833 жыл бұрын
@@m.taufiqnurwansyah6607 Well you see, when a Mommy Inuit and a Daddy Inuit really love each other...
@adamparris83533 жыл бұрын
I love how accurate you are with your portrayals of historical firearms.
@LordBitememan2 жыл бұрын
It should also be mentioned that Wilson was the more "stay out of it" guy. His opponent, Charles Evans Hughes, was also a "stay out of it" guy, but he was also a "we might get involved even though we don't want to so we'd better be ready for it" guy.
@quackquack80433 жыл бұрын
Love the we brought shotguns sign it just makes trench warfare go to easy mode
@planescaped3 жыл бұрын
....No.
@galatheumbreon68623 жыл бұрын
The kaiser will not be pleased
@ginnrollins2113 жыл бұрын
It's only fair since they had flamethrowers.
@gavind3513 жыл бұрын
@@ginnrollins211 and gas
@ginnrollins2113 жыл бұрын
@@gavind351 That too.
@hellcat707hp3 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with the accuracy of that 1897 Trench shotgun at 0:18. Now I'm going to be looking at all the firearms in these videos lol love it
@bulldogrj50203 жыл бұрын
I just bought one at a Rock Island Auction. All its missing is the M1917 Bayonet on it, and the finish is a blue finish rather than parkerized but I agree with your sentiment.
@hellcat707hp3 жыл бұрын
@@bulldogrj5020That's sweet. I JUST tried to get one at that Premier auction, but I couldn't justify how much they go for. I think I'm gonna pick up a rougher Riot model soon and have it professionally refinished and repaired. Love those guns.
@bulldogrj50203 жыл бұрын
@@hellcat707hp ya I’ve been collecting guns since I was in 4th grade (2008) my first one my grandfather gave me was a K98 from 1940, I was too young and small to really even hold it properly. This one was a gift for graduating college from my grandfather, basically cost a new car but unlike a car this will appreciate in value over the years, never to be fired or handled improperly. I recommend looking at some of the WW2 ones (if you aren’t already sold on a WWI issue) they are more numerous and tend to go for less (though sometimes still a lot) than a WW1 issue. They also tend to be in better condition as well. You could also just buy one in the riot configuration and have it refinished and rebuilt into trench configuration. People really like those Norinco replicas too but no modern Chinese built gun could ever replace an original Winchester in someone’s collection. If you have the money, Rock Island Auction has some coming up in their Sporting & Collector auction coming up in early October that are originals that have been refinished, could be worth taking a look at their catalogue. If you wanna to see the one I got look at the WW1 one that went at the premier auction, there was only one and I got into a bidding war with some old fart over it.
@hellcat707hp3 жыл бұрын
@@bulldogrj5020 Thanks for the advice! I think I'm lucky that I like the standard riot configuration almost as much as the trench, so one of those is most appealing with the market the way it's been. I'll take a look at that auction catalog as well! Even the standard riot guns have been going for some big prices though. I'll keep trying and I'll get one I'm sure! I'm kind of just finally picking up some of these old guns I like and wanna be able to shoot regularly. M1 Garand is on the list at some point, just need to do some research on what constitutes good and bad. The life of an old gun collector/buyer is eternal research, but I'm not complaining at all!
@bulldogrj50203 жыл бұрын
@@hellcat707hp I wish you luck on your 1897 hunt! It can be a bit arduous and expensive. In terms of the M1 Garand, I got mine back in about 2011, I think it was the 3rd gun my grandfather gifted me if I remember correctly. Its a springfield from 1942, Probably about 75-85% original finish remaining and it fires like a champ. The nice thing about the Garand is that they made so many even into the Korean War and Vietnam that there is no shortage of surplus parts should something break or malfunction on it. I take good care of mine so I've never had anything happen to it, but I know there are entire websites just dedicated to M1 surplus parts. Would be a great addition to the collection for sure and would be one that you wouldn't have to worry about shooting, I probably shoot that one more than all of my other oldies in the collection, plus 30-06 ammo is sold in every gun store!
@DavidAgostinoАй бұрын
"dead men have bad credit" 2:09 That's hysterical. Brilliant!
@Lyfeel3 жыл бұрын
I just love how you're so accurate and informative, while maintaining a very approachable tone and humour. Keep at it my good sir!
@LudicrousTorpedo3 жыл бұрын
1:22 That plan would went on to become true in Kaiserreich.
@AF-tv6uf3 жыл бұрын
You can't watch this video and NOT think of Kaiserreich.
@marcino4573 жыл бұрын
Probably inspired by it since these are literally the old KR borders. In the newer patches they don't get anything from France though, so it no longer applies
@MagiconIce3 жыл бұрын
@@marcino457 What? Afaik, Germany has a bit more in KR than the pre-1914 borders.
@marcino4573 жыл бұрын
@@MagiconIce I think in KR they have Luxemburg and a bit of Wallonia, but they used to also get a big chunk of Nancy from France which made their western border look exactly like in the video. In the newer versions of the mod and the lore, they didn't take any European land from France in The Great War because of stability concerns. In Kaiserredux (the wackier KR version made by different people), they still took Nancy from France, so the borders look exactly like they do in the video
@yesacoustic3 жыл бұрын
Another great one. Always find your videos amusing and informative. Keep up the good work.
@Mrs.THECOMMUNISTCHANNEL3 жыл бұрын
"It was the decision of one man who would cause every major future war and modern problems" -Cody Franklin (Alternatehistoryhub)
@speedy012473 жыл бұрын
I mean it came from many past decisions as well, History isn't a tale of great men, its of people as a whole, yes great men existed, but odds are someone else would take their place if not them.
@user-tf5lg7fc9s3 жыл бұрын
Communists are so cringe.
@MatsLM3 жыл бұрын
“We brought shotguns” - Last thing a German Soldier heard
@johnladuke64753 жыл бұрын
No, the last thing he heard was BOOM.
@yankee38753 жыл бұрын
“And honestly ruining the Kaiser’s day” I love this channel more than I should
@mkosmala13093 жыл бұрын
This is one of the funniest episodes you've made. All the little background jokes were one point - women, "Let us vote, you pleb!" (Poland still beat us to it), "Dead men have bad credit," "We brought shotguns," and so many others. I also appreciate the point that America was looking at expansionist Germany and saying, "Yeah, that'll be a problem down the road." An oft-forgotten reason, but an important one.
@princepscivitatis40833 жыл бұрын
Short answer: Because Woodrow Wilson thought he was American Jesus.
@danc79343 жыл бұрын
Oversimplified
@Prussia_3 жыл бұрын
Oversimplified?
@galatheumbreon68623 жыл бұрын
Oversimplified
@Marylandbrony3 жыл бұрын
And he was the Jesus of suburbria.
@SalmonJonesTheMagnificent3 жыл бұрын
Worst president in US history tbh
@johngulyas6953 жыл бұрын
I am always impressed by the accurate depictions of rifles in these vids. And in the case of the US, rifles & shotguns.
@pramilashaktawat44293 жыл бұрын
🔴 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE HISTORY MATTERS
@nowhereman60193 жыл бұрын
As with most things in history, the answer is pretty simple: *MONEY, gets away*
@Marylandbrony3 жыл бұрын
We've got to have *Money*
@cardenassolisrodrigo26013 жыл бұрын
As Pink Floyd once said "Money, get away... it's the root of all evil today..."
@noone-kk2zs7 ай бұрын
@@cardenassolisrodrigo2601 Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks
@wihma97a3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this was a bit of a missed opportunity to talk about how Wilson and his administration, more or less for the first time, applied state propaganda to get americans on board with the war. This was later studied quite intensely by the Nazis since they were so impressed with how effective it was. Otherwise great episode as per usual
@obsidianrevenger3 жыл бұрын
Is there an article or something about this coz it seems like a really interesting read?
@StratMan90093 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's always irksome when he talks about how public opinion changed without even hinting at WHO changed it and why.
@AR-rg2en2 жыл бұрын
You mean Edward Bernays, cousing of Freud.
@goldbullet502 жыл бұрын
@@j7704 Being Freud's nephew does not give him enough credit. Edward Bernays was essentially the inventor of Public Relations. Watch Adam Curtis's documentary "Century of the self".
@person30702 жыл бұрын
It was called the Committee on Public Information
@bridgecross3 жыл бұрын
0:51 the two Suffragettes giving Wilson dirty looks.
@Mr_M_History3 жыл бұрын
History matters the channel that answers the questions about things I never kn... actually can't really do it for this one.
@nERVEcenter1173 жыл бұрын
There's a big fly in the ointment here: Wilson's election in 1912 was a historical fluke. Teddy Roosevelt went third-party and split the Republican vote. Wilson hardly had what you could call a mandate. Still, he laid the foundation of the modern American super-state, from the income tax, to the Federal Reserve, to intervening in WWI ("democracy abroad"), to the League of Nations.
@pax68333 жыл бұрын
There were some positive aspects to his presidency. Honestly never understand his critics. Dude was all kinds of awful, but he's not top 10 worst at all. I'd say his presidency was mixed.
@tomfrazier11033 жыл бұрын
I've seen some alternate history. Roosevelt would have joined the war earlier, forcing a less destructive settlement than Versailles. How the details of this would have been is up to debate, Austria-Hungary, Ottomans. All of the different trajectories from nations to individuals. The Irish gentry surviving....
@m136dalie3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention teaming up with the Brits to let Germany off so easily they would have the means to plunge Europe into the world's most destructive war barely two decades later
@JGlennFL3 жыл бұрын
He was also quite a racist. There was huge resurgence of the KKK and other white supremacy groups under him. Most of the Civil War monuments across the south were erected around that time, not as a remembrance of the war, but as intimidation of black voters.
@andyshiner35363 жыл бұрын
@@pax6833 Sorry, no. He pushed for a sedition act. He threw Eugene V. Debs and other dissidents in jail. He invaded Haiti and Santo Domingo for spurious reasons. He supported Jim Crow laws and actually segregated previously unsegregated federal agencies. He is literally the worst president, and it's not even close. Historians treat Wilson with kid gloves for some bizarre reason.
@alparslankorkmaz29643 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained.
@AbrahamSamma3 жыл бұрын
In the telegram, a suggestion was made to invite Japan to fight alongside Mexico and Germany. They wisely chose to remain with the Allies. Too bad their sense of wisdom ran out in WW2.
@arandombard11973 жыл бұрын
Japan even took some German colonies.
@malarie-susangold92593 жыл бұрын
Germany "Hey Japan, quick question." Japan "What do you possibly want other than to give us your colonies?" Germany "What, no we...we don't want that. We just wanted to know if you'd like to fight with us." Japan "We... kinda already are." Germany "SWEET! Send some ammo please!" Japan "No problem.... absolutely no problem."
@nejiiuyn3 жыл бұрын
To be fair to Japan, the interwar years saw a serious breakdown in relations due to the racism of Asians at the time by Europeans and White Americans. Which led to Japan being forced to limit its Naval Capital Ships by the 1922 Washington Naval Treaty because they were Asian and thus not seen as an equal power, and the League of Nations blatantly refusing Japan's proposed resolution to consider all races as equals.
@Videokirby3 жыл бұрын
@@nejiiuyn You seem to be forgetting that France and Italy were given even lower values (1.67 as opposed to Japan's 3 or US/UK's 5). It was less a case of racism and more that the Americans attempted to both prevent a naval arms race (which is expensive) and defang Japan by giving them the worst possible terms they would expect. Entirely pragmatic on their part, and considering how the 2-26 incident put Japan on the warpath anyway, probably the right choice by the US.
@katnerd-Glen3 жыл бұрын
That...was the US's fault, actually. The United States cut off Japans fuel supplies and did a few other things that basically said "We're against you and we'll strangle you". Of all the Axis powers Japan is probably the only one who had a legitimate reason to fight. doesn't excuse how they went about it, but they were, in fact, goaded in to initial action.
@szuz4353 жыл бұрын
the funny man uploaded funny historical video
@thomasbravado2 жыл бұрын
By the late 19th century a lot of people knew that Germany was going to end up dominating the European continent because of its economic and military power. America had already risen to dominate the Western Hemisphere and there was already, before 1900, a debate over whether America or Germany would emerge from their inevitable clash in the 20th century to become the dominant world power. All questions of morality, ethics, and styles of government aside, it was perhaps inevitable from a geopolitical standpoint that at some point this would end up happening. Here in America we like to tell each other it was about freedom and democracy, but on some level it was really just about power.
@WayOutGaming3 жыл бұрын
Somewhere the Cynical Historian is angrily yelling "Wilson" at the top of his lungs for an unexplained reason.
Wilson was an idealistic fool. His 15 points and "the war to end all wars" was seen by Britain as merely tools of propaganda.
@WayOutGaming3 жыл бұрын
@@Don-mu2qh Sadly, I think Wilson actually believed all that, as in I don't think it was just propaganda for him. Though I can certainly see why the British thought it was. As someone once said, Wilson tried to be a neutral third party during the peace negotiations even though he was directly involved in the war.
@robertortiz-wilson15883 жыл бұрын
Half of that guy's content is garbage, but half of it isn't.
@DISTurbedwaffle9183 жыл бұрын
3:00 I would be part of the "Hated Belgium" faction.
@jackpavlik5633 жыл бұрын
Yet you eat waffles…
@DISTurbedwaffle9183 жыл бұрын
@@jackpavlik563 A necessary sacrifice.
@pauldzim3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hate those Belgians with their waxed mustaches going around solving murder mysteries
@UsTheMusicTVOfficial3 жыл бұрын
This should have been my experience with history in school. Visuals make it way easier to learn! Well, it should be in schools now, that is to say. Good job.
@wetwillyis_18813 жыл бұрын
"Dead men have bad credit." Is one of the best descriptions of Government's than loan people money that I have ever heard.
@metarus2083 жыл бұрын
**loan
@wetwillyis_18813 жыл бұрын
@@metarus208 Thanks mate.
@kuronanestimare3 жыл бұрын
It's also an excellent summary of taxpayer-funded healthcare: We can't pay taxes if we're dead.
@aratirao90073 жыл бұрын
🔷 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE HISTORY MATTERS
@cattysplat Жыл бұрын
@@kuronanestimare On the contrary, the government were rather you died soon than later to avoid paying state pension and pocket your savings when you don't have a will written.
@SomethingBeautifulHandcrafts3 жыл бұрын
..."History buffs among you will know that the American public wanting something does not mean that the American Government is going to do it"... Finally someone who understands how politics really work in America. Just because the American public is against something doesn't mean the American Government is NOT going to do it either.
@amerikawoche82432 жыл бұрын
Difference between democracy & representative democracy
@arnaldoenriquez6191 Жыл бұрын
@amerikawoche8243 this guy gets it even more
@MadelineSawyer3 жыл бұрын
I'm eternally reminded of that scene in the Warren Beatty film Reds, where Jack Reed, when asked at a liberal club as to what the purpose of World War One is, stands up, just says "Profits", and sits down, just after the club spent like 15 minutes talking about how the war is supposedly about spreading democracy
@cattysplat Жыл бұрын
Mass industrialisation to provide trade to warring Europe during WW1 and WW2 transformed America into the economic powerhouse it is today.
@DC-hy2rg3 жыл бұрын
"Hated Belgium" this channel is pure gold
@earthenjadis81993 жыл бұрын
"There wasn't much time for America to join if the right side was going to win." Indeed.
@MagiconIce3 жыл бұрын
"You're saved" *Rest of Entente Powers staring non-amused* I love this channel!
@jaxsonhuefner14113 жыл бұрын
Just gotta say, your content is top tier. Love it and I have watched almost everything you’ve made.
@cringlator3 жыл бұрын
“Because factory owners would make more money if we did” pretty much sums up most US foreign policy decisions.
@koushiro863 жыл бұрын
And domestic policy ones let’s be honest
@jakubkarczynski2693 жыл бұрын
@Ethaniel Lim there were no military industry in usa then.
@CrossBreedTacoHD3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like every country that has had some form of power and influence ever.
@Delgen19513 жыл бұрын
well that an trying to get Mexico to invade America.
@RonJohn633 жыл бұрын
Factory owners employ voters, who then spend their wages, thus increasing the prosperity of their community.
@clyd12063 жыл бұрын
this may be one of the best channels on youtube
@lostphoenix19113 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. The short videos are the perfect length for a person like me who has ADHD but also loves history
@McfcLadsguvnors10 ай бұрын
If amercia wasn’t tricked into ww1 it would of been stopped then there and then and millions of European lives would of been saved
@khukri_wielderxxx19623 жыл бұрын
"So he stays employed" The goal of every politician EVER🤣
@lookingforsomething3 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair the US system really enables dynastic political employment. If the US had an election system that made sense (not first past the post, but *any* Condorcet method, like the Jefferson method for example) there would be a lot more political accountability and considerably less corrupt politicians. US needs electoral reform.
@fransbuijs8083 жыл бұрын
In Holland we had a PM, Ruud Lubbers, who actually did have a slogan that was almost the same: let him finish his job.
@onlookerofthings60293 жыл бұрын
One of the weirdest bits of trivia I know is that Stalin tried to resign 4 times and they all got rejected by different general assemblies. One time was after Lenin called him rude.
@firstconsul72863 жыл бұрын
Not like most of them need the money anyways.
@aratirao90073 жыл бұрын
🟣 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE HISTORY MATTERS
@super-original-username.w79203 жыл бұрын
I really wish there was mention or talk of the sedition and espionage acts passed by wilson to stop people from criticizing the war effort and the reasons it was implemented
@watching991343 жыл бұрын
No kidding there was incredible repression in this country (e.g. Eugene Debs).
@ruicorreia63733 жыл бұрын
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, after they've tried everything else." - Winston Churchill In other words, let Europe burn to clean competition but not to much because Russia is a thing and we need them.
@samreid60103 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Churchill didn’t have a great record when it came to letting people overseas suffer and die so he could turn a profit. I’m sure all those people in the Raj were fine with starving so the empire could have its indigo.
@jrm783 жыл бұрын
"The American people wanting something doesn't mean the American government will do it." So very true, for better or worse (usually worse).
@noahway133 жыл бұрын
The American public is never united in what it wants.
@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk3 жыл бұрын
"There is no use kidding ourselves any longer. The cause of the allies is lost. We now owe you (American bankers, American munitions makers, American manufacturers, American speculators, American exporters) five or six billion dollars. If we lose (and without the help of the United States we must lose) we, England, France and Italy, cannot pay back this money . . . and Germany won't. So . . . " Smedley Butler, War is a Racket
@tomtomtrent3 жыл бұрын
A wise man. He knew the military-industrial complex decades before anyone else realized it
@XXXTENTAClON2273 жыл бұрын
“… and Germany won’t” Lmao
@silverhost97823 жыл бұрын
American who thinks they saved the entente single-handedly? How novel!
@_Hamler3 жыл бұрын
@@silverhost9782 uh, they did though? Without the supplies they gave for the Allies and promise of fresh soldiers during the closing years of the war, the Allies would have 100% collapsed
@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk3 жыл бұрын
@@_Hamler Central powers would have collapsed first anyway. Just compare the size, the resources and the manpower of the British and French empires with the areas controlled by Germany. The Entente also was able to commerce with neutral countries.
@darthimperious15942 жыл бұрын
Good to see you cover all aspects of why we entered WW1, especially the economic ones. An Alternate History of if the US stayed out of WW1 has Germany winning (due to the UK going bankrupt without unsecured loans from the US), leading to the US and rest of the world entering the Great Depression a decade early in 1919 due to France and the UK defaulting on their debt to the US. This was a genuine concern, as you mentioned, so well done!
@greendog24952 жыл бұрын
Germany wouldn't have won ww1 even if the USA stayed out, because of their internal problems and fights which aren't mentioned offen.
@greendog24952 жыл бұрын
Also, the german morale was horrible since most german people didn't want to fights ww1, even Wilhelm 2 tried bis best to make peace but bis Generals forced germany to fight
@HNedel Жыл бұрын
There is a book on the subject, at least one. The thesis is that in 1917 neither side would have been able to fight much longer, as money was running out for everyone. Thus an armistice was likely, where Germany wouldn’t b able to demand any huge reparations, as the Entente powers knew the germans couldn’t fight much longer. The intervention of the US is also what prompted the Germans to send Lenin into Russia, which resulted in the bolshevik revolution.
@MrAlex_Raven3 жыл бұрын
1:40 Jesus Christ dude, you killed me, I felt that in my SOUL. (Great and true point)
@falcon6423 жыл бұрын
"We brought shotguns" love it and the story behind that bit. Americans brought shotguns, which were crazy effective in trench warfare. Germany complained that the shotgun was an inhumane weapon. America pointed out that Germany invented and used the flamethrower and told the Germans to sod off.
@greg_mca3 жыл бұрын
And if you really read the story behind it, you realise that the shotguns involved were pretty terrible and unpopular because they had poor ammunition, jammed a lot in the mud, and there were less than 500 of them on the front in total. They only worked in very specific circumstances and trench warfare adamantly refused to let them be used in optimal conditions. Most of the amazing stories about the effectiveness of shotguns were written in the US before the shotguns arrived at the front, for the purposes of marketing. The shotgun's best service was to free up a division's worth of actual rifles for the front by giving them to guys who didn't need good guns. They were not that effective and were only brought up to win diplomatic favour by claiming the Americans were savages
@DevinMcSalty Жыл бұрын
It’s also funny because we Americans do have an affinity for them. I’ve been shooting competitions since I was bout 11-12 and bird hunting since even younger😂
@maxbuster15083 жыл бұрын
Love the subtle sound effects
@coltafanan3 жыл бұрын
He really crammed as many jokes as possible in this episode and I love it 😂
@alan-sk7ky3 жыл бұрын
been a while since we had Batman and Robin though... ;-)
@lowlag3 жыл бұрын
I love the we brought shotguns and the neutral meter going from Switzerland up
@saulchapnick15663 жыл бұрын
I read so many books on WWI. That question always perplexed me. Rather, that question always had one answer, “America’s decision to enter The Great War was a business one.”
@DarkSoulSama3 жыл бұрын
Back then: "Why did the US join a war?" Now: "Why not?"
@johnladuke64753 жыл бұрын
"Join? You mean start."
@camelopardalis843 жыл бұрын
@@johnladuke6475 By preparing the conditions to have a reason to start one decades earlier.
@matpk3 жыл бұрын
@@johnladuke6475 Compare 1930s Nazi Germany Vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO Project.
@looinrims3 жыл бұрын
@@johnladuke6475 what war have the Americans started since 2003? I mean the answer is none but I’d love to hear this “muh america bad!” Shit
@johnladuke64753 жыл бұрын
@@looinrims I like the logical gymnastics you need to make America sound peaceful. "We haven't had an official declaration of war in 17 years!" he cried, forgetting how his peace-loving nation invited itself to Syria, then back to Iraq, in that time span, and also leaving off the first 227 years of the country's history as inconvenient. By your own standard, the USA has not seen enough years without a declared war for a child to graduate high school.
@Marylandbrony3 жыл бұрын
2:58 I too hate Belgium.
@ChenAnPin3 жыл бұрын
so does the Congo
@billyponsonby3 жыл бұрын
The one channel where I regularly rewind to check I’ve got it all
@DSgamrz5853 жыл бұрын
2:32 "Now or in 20 years" Germany: *por que no los dos*
@tbuddy8883 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see a new History Matters video, I click.
@Ancaryvan3 жыл бұрын
1:58 PAY ME: Comes with the Flower 🌼🌸 Dance 💃🕺.
@General-HD3 жыл бұрын
2:48 You forgot about Portugal in the corner lol.
@Osterochse3 жыл бұрын
0:40 what is the irrelevant pacific holding across the pacific?
@PointFear Жыл бұрын
Tiny Island or something
@gwho3 жыл бұрын
I really like how this channel gets to real reasons quickly
@VegasViking4203 жыл бұрын
The Japanese bring a katana The Scottish bring a claymore The Scandinavian brings an axe *AMERICAN BRINGS A SHOTGUN*
@tomfrazier11033 жыл бұрын
And a pump one at that "Trench broom".
@aleksandarvil57183 жыл бұрын
2:26 Guam was American since 1898, (along with Philippines, Cuba, Puerto Rico). While Imperial Germans bought remains of Spanish Oceania (Marshall, Caroline, Mariana Islands) and made them part of *German New Guinea*
@jordanlyons2609 Жыл бұрын
Cuba became independent in 1902 and there was a conflict between America and Germany over Samoa but you’re right otherwise
@aleksandarvil5718 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanlyons2609 Guantanamo Bay , property & of USA (since 1903) and oldest overseas U.S. naval base in the world.
@jordanlyons2609 Жыл бұрын
@@aleksandarvil5718 yeah but not all of Cuba
@aleksandarvil5718 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanlyons2609 BEFORE 1958/1959 Cuba WAS semi-colonial protectorate of USA
@jordanlyons2609 Жыл бұрын
@@aleksandarvil5718 I though we were talking official colonies. Otherwise the German Empire had more
@danhulson87033 жыл бұрын
i loved the You're saved bit near the end
@gequitz3 жыл бұрын
Good video, but Russia did not drop out of the war in Spring 1917 (2:45) A (nominally) democratic, more western-aligned gov't took control in the February Revolution, and Russia continued to fight Germany until the October Revolution, when communists soon surrendered to the Central Powers
@cieproject28883 жыл бұрын
Always here for more WWI content ... next do one on the abortive peace effort of 1916, in which the US was a major player. See "The Road less Traveled," by Philip Zelikow
@MrCanadaben Жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure and can be very wrong, but I remember that when I was younger and first learning about the war I read that Germany sent a warning to the US, and others, that they would attack every ship entering British waters, but the US was basically just like "Nah, they're bluffing. They won't do that", and then acted all surprised and pissed when Germany did exactly that. I have however not been able to find where I read that again, so I don't know if it's actually true. If someone knows, plz tell me
@Aynshtaynn3 жыл бұрын
Wilson: We won't go to war with Germany I promise The US: _goes to war with Germany 6 months after Wilson is re-elected_ German-Americans: We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been, quite possibly, bamboozled.
@joseninghem83653 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Just a quick point: in April 1917, Russia had not dropped out of the war yet. After the February revolution, the Kerensky government would still try another offensive in July 1917.
@pax68333 жыл бұрын
But they had ended their autocratic government. So, more palatable. Still, it's a fair point.