Tesla Model 3 LR Chichester Road Trip + MILEAGE PROBLEMS?

[@patcourtney5655]

I have a model 3 long range 2 months old. Recently did a trip from Dublin to Rossinver distance of 191 Km mixed motorway, dual carriageway and B roads. Had 100%

[@patcourtney5655]

Battery leaving and arrived with 53% left as we were in a hurry to get there and took 2 hours and 20 minutes. We returned to Dublin later driving more slowly taking 3 hours for the journey and on arrival had 16% battery left. We were using ac most of the time. So it does make quite a difference driving more sedately.

[@MBrown]

Hey Pat thanks for the comment, yes it can make a huge difference. I’ve heard sitting slightly below 60mph can make a massive difference

[@Infinitelight8888]

Thanks for sharing very informative. One thing most people will have to realise is: the estimated mileage is if the car is used economically (no music, no AC/Heating) everything in the car is electric so any extra usage will reduce range. Looking forward to other videos

[@MBrown]

Hey thanks for the comment. Yeah defiantly. It’s just for me, I think they should estimate assuming you might want to have music and heating during a 4 hour journey. I’d never buy a £50K car to sit in it boiling hot or freezing cold to save 10 miles on a charge 😂

[@Infinitelight8888]

@@MBrown hahaha definitely agree with you on that. But just like you I think using the percentage is better than the mileage on the display. Agree I’d be great if machine learning could work out driver habits and usage per profile. Fingers crossed in the future.

[@ksmith660]

Another great video Mark! I would suggest to use the energy graph for a better mileage gauge and turn off sentry mode to allow the car to sleep to avoid phantom battery drain when leaving the car parked. The mileage gauge you used is based on EPA range and that is based on driving at ~60 mph whereas the energy graph is based on you actual journey, including hills and motorway speeds...

[@MBrown]

Thanks Kelvin, yes I always use energy to be honest (just wanted to try it out in this video as a few people had mentioned it in the comments)

[@peterg2955]

Not looked at all the comments but sentry mode uses quite a bit of battery as you found in the car park. We just had a week away in Scarborough! 150 miles each way topped up in leeds on the way and used a free Tesco charger while there. The chart suggested we'd arrive back with 26 miles but because it was a slow journey we got home with 46 miles in a SR +. Thanks for the video!

[@MBrown]

Hey Peter, I had sentry mode turned off for this entire journey, other than the first charge before we left as shown in the video. I tend to leave it off as it drains a bit too much battery.

[@peterg2955]

@@MBrown hi Mark, how strange, quite a bit of drain for a couple of nights in a car park? Do you think you'll ever get a home charger? I feel like it takes a lot of the range concerns away, as well as the supercharger network..

[@thinhon1993]

I will have my Tesla delivered in November, and I have been watching your videos to ease myself in the journey, it’s been very entertaining keep up the good work

[@MBrown]

Hey Thomas, thanks so much! Really appreciate it, and I hope you enjoy your new Tesla! Which one did you go for?

[@thinhon1993]

@@MBrown hey, sorry missed your reply, I went for a standard range plus got a delivery text for 15 Sept, really excited

[@ezpoppy55]

Yes, I highly recommend switching from Miles to Percentage. Here in the US, I believe the number of miles is (as you state) a rough estimate, based on the estimate made by the EPA, the federal government environmental agency that gives their estimates on vehicle range and fuel/energy consumption. The estimates can be useful for comparison, but no one, EV or ICE drivers, really expects to hit those estimates. Percentage, I have found, is much more spot on, again as you stated. It’s all I use. Another way to monitor energy consumption is to click on Energy on the bottom menu. There are two tabs: Consumption, which gives you actual , real time feedback on how much energy you’re using, and a much better estimate as to how far you’ll get on your remaining charge. The other tab is Trip. This is for when you have used Navigate to plan your route for a trip. It plots out how much energy you should lose (and regain) over the trip, how much energy you should arrive at your destination with, and compares what you’re actually using during your trip to that estimate. Very useful! Great video and congratulations to all on the new family member! Handsome youngster!

[@MBrown]

Hey Ernest, thanks for the comment. Yes I always use mine in percentage as it seems much better. I do think Tesla could improve the estimation a little bit. A friend had a Taycan and that was very very accurate (within 2-3 miles) Yes I get addicted to checking the trip… I kind of play a little game on trying to improve the numbers as I drive.

[@MBrown]

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[@robertrigel9806]

Mark, Once again - a very informative video and a delightful mini-tour of Chichester. Good things to know about range expectancy.

[@MBrown]

Thanks Robert glad you enjoyed the video and got to show you somewhere new!

[@SirHackaL0t.]

I find that my Model 3 charges at roughly about 10% per hour on a 7kwh charger. It makes it easier to work out how long it’ll need.

[@simoncoles2463]

The reason it said 20mins to charge at Hopwood is because that would give you enough range to complete the next leg of your trip with about 10% left in the battery on arrival. If you need more then charge longer, otherwise you’re just spending time for no reason at the supercharger. BTW, I’ve been driving Teslas for 5 years and find miles much more helpful than percentage, so it’s really just a preference.

[@MBrown]

Thanks Simon! 👍

[@batman-rises]

I have a M3P on order, the other hidden cost of having to stop to charge more often is the cost of additional food and drink from what I can see from all this types of videos.

[@MBrown]

Hey I guess so however on a four hour drive I would normally stop once or twice for a coffee (I always stop for lunch)

[@garymendham]

Hi Mark...nice video. Remember, absolutely everything you do in a Tesla uses battery power...including Sentry Mode. If you leave it on overnight you will lose miles. In your case though, on this trip, the disparity in expected vs forecast mileage is mostly just down to battery preconditioning. This uses a huge amount of power. As soon as you put a Supercharger in as a destination the battery preconditions by default. This does of course speed up the charging time slightly but definitely eats up the miles. If you turn off preconditioning t will take slightly longer to charge (depending on how cold it is) but you'll preserve the predicted range. Also, on the overnight situation, you will sometimes get variation in miles left just because of the battery temperature. Put it to bed with a warm battery and when you wake it up and the battery is much cooler you'll get less range reported. If you go on a cold, short trip one evening and the next day late afternoon (say) it is much warmer you'll sometimes gain range!

[@MBrown]

Hey Gary thank you. Yes I never really have sentry mode on (Unless I’m public charging like on the first charge I did, other than that, I have that turned off for the entire trip. (you’re right it drains a little too much battery.) Yes thats a good point about the pre-conditioning, I didn’t think of that! 👍

[@garymendham]

@@MBrown I've experimented with turning the preconditioning off and it definitely makes a difference to the mileage. Although I haven't tried it in the depths on winter, not preconditioning only seems to add a few minutes to charging times. I suspect if the battery is really cold then it would. We'll find out in January!

[@garymendham]

@@MBrown Hi Mark, just a quick update. Stayed in Bolton and then Chatsworth last week and so left Sentry mode on overnight and it used at least 17 miles of battery on each occasion...more than I anticipated. As with you I don't normally use it because I don't need a video of every cat that walks past the car! I also tried the pre-conditioning theory too and it is definitely the thing causing mileage discrepancies. Speaking to others, whilst at normal UK summer temperatures the preconditioning uses up miles but doesn't affect charging times that much, that is not the case in winter. If the temperatures are near zero then Supercharging times can actually double without preconditioning. With preconditioning turned on the amount of battery used just warming itself up to an ideal temperature for charging is absolutely huge!

[@frecklesx20]

I like Mikes comment about using chart to predict mileage.

[@dang8352]

It's been a couple months since I visited your channel and am glad I found my way back. I enjoy your Tesla "tech talks" combined with some beautiful tourism shots! Thanks, Mark! I lived in England in the early 80's and visited Chichester then so this was a great walk down memory lane! ;-)

[@dang8352]

Mark, I've glanced at your video titles and am looking to see if you list your camera equipment and mountings for your Tesla videos. There may be something out there but yours is so smooth, I'd love to see what you've done... perhaps a show on that! ;-)

[@MBrown]

Thanks Dan really appreciate it and glad you're enjoying the videos, also glad I could take you down memory lane again too!

[@MBrown]

Hey Dan, yeah sure thing, I'm planning on doing a gear list video soon as a few people have asked about the equipment!

[@Kez91]

Love your road trip videos . I own a 2021 Model 3 Performance and still watch Tesla videoed on YT. Originally from the UK I live in New Zealand so I really enjoy your in-depth UK trip knowledge as it make me miss home 🏡

[@MBrown]

Thanks Kieran, oh wow, how much are you loving the performance? I test drove one and couldn’t believe the speed! How’s New Zealand? bet its great for a spin in the Tesla

[@Kez91]

@@MBrown I love the M3P the speed is the most fun part. Driving around NZ is amazing also I should film it one day 📸 And you should visit

[@Walterp60]

Also use Vent windows before going to car. No Energy used to make it cooler before you get to it. The Tezlab app is good for checking Power used vs expected. For instance my 6.4km trip to beach has a drop of 41m and gives 152% Efficiency. On way back same distance but a rise of 41 m its 64% efficient. Air con on both ways as its 33 degrees here in Spain.

[@cbromley562]

Yes, percentage is far more accurate, and changes real-time in response to your driving style and conditions. It's good that you show that it's feasible to own an electric car without a driveway and home charging.

[@MBrown]

Hey C, thank you yes it’s definitely achievable not having home charging! Loving mine so far.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

The clock means all the chargers are full. It actually says ‘short wait’ on it. You’d happily make it to one of the superchargers higher up. The charger north of Oxford would have been a good charging point for your journey. And the Heathrow T5 chargers aren’t inside the M25, they are just outside at a hotel. No need to get caught up in traffic to the airport to charge. :) It tends to be pronounced “havn’t” btw. 👍 On a V1/2 supercharger you want to not share a number. (Chargers are numbered 1A, 1B, 2A,2B etc). Sharing means you are splitting the amps available. The ‘time to continue journey’ is how long you need to charge to carry on, not how long until the battery reaches the level you requested. The capacity loss in the garage might have been due to having sentry mode turned on. It takes energy.

[@MBrown]

Thanks Clive, I was just a little worried about being so close to London for traffic so thought we’d go the more sceanic route, also wanted to check out those chargers as they were so close to their house. Unfortunately around three of the chargers were not working so we had to go next to someone else which was a shame. Also sentry mode was off for the entire journey after the first charge

[@SirHackaL0t.]

@@MBrown No worries. :) Last weekend we went to the National Car Museum which had an EV rally. The M25 was gridlocked so we took the scenic route from Eastbourne. Saw lots of places we wouldn’t get to see normally on the motorway and it was quicker than parking on the M25 car park.

[@liamg5632]

Hi Mark, great videos. I've taken the plunge and my M3 LR in midnight silver arrives on the 14th September :) You have really helped in my choice and the additional bits and bobs I need too. Thanks very much, keep them coming, Liam.

[@MBrown]

That’s great! Glad I could help Liam! The silver looks great! Hope you enjoy it!

[@jonathansmith5850]

In all honesty I’m not sure what people’s problems are with the millage difference. With ICE cars the claimed MPG is always out as it’s based on the best case scenario driving at 60mph (56 officially). So like you say, if your driving at 60 in the Tesla you would get closer to the claimed millage. Driving at normal 70 mph with air com etc it will use more electricity (or fuel for ICE) and the real millage would be less than the claimed millage. From all the reviews I see on you tube etc people appear to judge EV’s differently to ICE which I think is harsh and wrong. On a different note, we are not in a place to buy an EV yet but love your videos. I’ve used your 600 mile and 900 mile videos to show others how usable EV’s are! Thanks for your realistic content. Look forward to the day we can get an EV, hopefully a model 3 SR+ in a year or so.

[@MBrown]

Hey Jonathan, thanks for the comment. Well I’ve done this trip many many times and the Mercedes C250CDI and FType were always very accurate (within 5-10 miles) for an average style journey anyway. Remember this is also in summer… in the winter this range drops by around 30-40%. So it doesn’t bother me too much, I just wish Tesla could update the software to accurately predict the mileage. (as it’s always consistently out the same amounts.)

[@philhartley7564]

My eTron is accurate in mileage estimation, it adjusts to your driving style and driving normally, as you did, I can usually improve on the range by about 10% - 12%. The opposite of the Tesla and, as a result, the difference is not as significant as some make out. It's still thirsty but not as bad as people first think. Also, the charging curve on the eTron is excellent.

[@MBrown]

Yes from all the videos I’ve seen it seems that Tesla you get 10-20% less than it claims, Porsche and Audi you get 10-20% more than it claims! I noticed that on any Taycan review

[@kinross24]

Also, it’s predicting your speeds will be similar to previous driving styles and speeds but if your carrying an extra person, weather cooler or head wind then it’s gonna be out, snd if you’ve a heavier right foot …..!!

[@peterg2955]

I agree, my driving is different when it's just me doing a 40 mile motorway sprint vs a long distance with with the family. I'm no hyper miler but avoiding motorways for a nice A road helps or seems to!

[@MBrown]

I hope you enjoyed the video! Any questions or suggestions for new videos? Let me know below!

[@JosephRawsthorne31]

The smart motorways wouldn’t have to be smart if drivers where smart instead but most people don’t have smart driving sense unfortunately, keep up the videos 👌🏻

[@MBrown]

Thanks Joseph

[@SirHackaL0t.]

The discrepancy between what the computer estimates and what is used (which is affected by driving style, temp, rain, wind etc) is the main reason why I just use the percentage on the screen instead of the miles estimated. I also use the graph that shows how the car expects to use the energy.

[@MBrown]

Hey Clive yes I always use percentage mode, it's much better

[@americotomas4889]

Congrats on the little one!! I have a pre cheeky boy. Going to reception year in a month... Nuts!! Great video and lovely trip!! I continue my journey towards saving for my Tesla model 3 LR. Only 8 months to go!! Cheers!!

[@MBrown]

Thank you! and good luck with the saving!

[@brinlewis3447]

Hi Mark, I’ve enjoyed your trips to Cornwall and Norfolk and have been waiting for your trip to Chichester. I’m due to travel from Chichester (the Witterings) to Manchester in September. I find using % age of battery is much more relaxing than using mileage. The supercharger in Havant is close to an underpass to a large Tesco - the industrial area isn’t very enticing! I did a trip to West Wales in June. At the time there were only 2 supercharger stations in the whole of Wales but we managed quite comfortably, no range anxiety at all. Keep posting the videos.

[@MBrown]

Thanks Brin! Glad you’re enjoying the videos! Yes % is much better in my opinion too. Good luck with your journey! The Witterings is very nice!

[@SeanyAHardy]

Hi Mark, another fantastic video. Never been to Chichester but my mate who lives there says I should visit. I love the technology and I would love to own one, but range anxiety would be too much but your videos are really informative and helpful thanks.

[@MBrown]

Hey Sean thanks for the message, yes Chichester is a nice little place to visit if you’re down that way. Luckily there are more and more charges, even since I’ve had the car there probably twice as many now on some of the routes I do regularly, which would help your range anxiety

[@tommendoza1812]

Just been and test driven a model 3 from the Winchester service centre, watched almost all of your tesla videos, about to order one now :-)

[@MBrown]

Ah thanks so much Tom, glad the videos helped! You're gonna love the car

[@tommendoza1812]

@@MBrown enjoyed this one specially as I’m based in Portsmouth/Havant. Despite your pronunciation of Havant 😆 Look forward to more content 👍

[@johnnyforeigner11]

Similar to the consumption figures I get in my 2021 Long Range Model 3. It would be far more beneficial to have a more accurate range estimate which Tesla could easily do with an OTA update.

[@MBrown]

Hey John, yes I agree with you, they should just make it more accurate, I would rather the car display less range but be more accurate,

[@andrewgray4784]

Another one of the latest update rumours is just that. The range will be adjusted according to real world driving. That would be useful. I leave mine on % but would change it if they made it more accurate.

[@MBrown]

@@andrewgray4784 Yeah fingers crossed the updates work, I don’t mind using percentage but of course an accurate mile counter would be much more useful, as we don’t say “How far is the drive to London? Oh its 32% 😂 We drive in Miles.”

[@danielstoicamusic]

@@MBrown The number of miles is always going to depend on the way you drive, traffic, weather, etc. How do you expect the car to know from the start of your trip how many miles you can get?

[@KIWEPETES]

Absolutely brilliant videos on here Mark, and also a lot of helpful information. Keep them coming. I have just collected my model 3 , same as yours, but unfortunately the whole country is now in level 4 lockdown the very next day after I picked up the car, so I don't believe I'll have any road trips anytime soon.

[@MBrown]

Thanks so much Peter! Oh nice, I hope you enjoy your Tesla Model 3, you’re in for a treat!

[@Walterp60]

You have to careful not to leave Sentry Mode on as it uses lots of power over a day. And one came across recently. I had Summon Mode Standby on and was losing 30km of range a day couldn't find out why until I found I report of it scanning for reasons online. Turned it off and now hardly loses any charge over night. May be 0.5 % per day so usually shows the same percentage as when you left it.

[@MBrown]

Yes I turn mine off most of the time now to be honest

[@MikeLuke]

The hidden stars of every successful KZbinr: the wifes and husbands doing all the fancy b-roll shots. :) Again, a great and informative video Mark. Looking forward watching your upcoming videos. Regards from Berlin.

[@MBrown]

Haha very true Mike! B-Roll looks great in the video, but people at the Superchargers must think we are crazy!

[@cokyrobes]

Always use the energy chart for real range - the number on main screen is based on a fixed WH/Mile figure based on EPA estimates. Achievable but not always

[@MBrown]

Yeah I always use percentage mode which seems good. Yeah the mileage range displayed it 💩.

[@cokyrobes]

@@MBrown this time of year I usually get it or beat it when driving calmly :)

[@ethelred2648]

@@MBrown I think what @Alex is saying is that the best range prediction is on the right hand side of the energy usage graph screen. It’s different than the silly % at the top of the screen and is always way more accurate.

[@Notchedto11]

Another great vid Mark, thanks so much. I’m learning so much just by literally watching you drive around! 😀 Great stuff. Delivery date for my Model 3 confirmed 10/3! Very excited. Have a great weekend 👍

[@MBrown]

Thanks so much, glad you’re enjoying the videos!

[@sebastian.brottman]

You deserve way more subs and views. Great and really usefull content! I'm gonna pick up my 2021 M3P in about a week. :D

[@MBrown]

Thanks Sebastian, really appreciate it, I hope you enjoy your new Tesla. Let me know how you get on

[@thedronewizard2110]

As always a great video for current and new Tesla owners. Collecting mine from Bristol on the 19th of august.

[@christinaforsythe1938]

It would been helpful to show the w/mi for each leg to better understand if you were using more energy when you "lost" more miles from predicted. There are so many factors that impact how many miles you get (or percentage used) - weather, wind, speed, climate, heat outside, etc. My previous car (a Prius) used to have a predicted number of miles left in the tank and it would be interesting to have an ICE car with mileage prediction drive at the same time, at the same speed, with the same stops to see what the difference in miles from predicted to actual would be and compare it to the Tesla.

[@MBrown]

Hey Christina thanks for the comment they are displayed on each section as we stop at each leg (I included a shot of each one of, hope this helps)

[@jamessaull]

Fuel gauges historically were all just essentially percentages too. Interesting that people don't default to the same in EV.

[@MBrown]

Hey James, yeah good point, I didn’t think about that.👍

[@jamessaull]

@@MBrown I also heard it explained that the Remaining Miles is based on the remaining charge multiplied by some unachievable theoretical WLTP wh/mile. A rating that is probably about 12 percent better than you... But percentage is exactly that and the energy consumption graph and trip forecast is based on your actual driving trend making it very accurate. I am finding that trip graph spot on in forecasting what percentage will be left on arrival.

[@colinswindell]

The comment above from James Saull is spot on. I don't yet own a Tesla but have been following a lot of KZbin owners and information channels. If you compare to an ICE car then when did you ever get the fuel consumption that the manufacturer published from their official test figures? You would rarely, maybe never, achieve it. As James said, the range that is showing to you in the car is based on the power usage achieved under test conditions and apportioned according to the percentage of charge currently in the battery. The trip graph, however DOES take into account your driving style and the traffic/weather etc that you are encountering so at any time when you look at it you will get a better indication of how far you are likely to be able to drive (how much percentage will be left in the battery - i.e. fuel in the petrol tank). This needs to be explained to viewers as simply to say that the car does not seem to achieve the mileage originally shown gives a negative view when it can easily be shown why this is. Referring to the graph then becomes the informative and positive way of showing a more realistic range that will be achieved.

[@Gdank72]

Sentry mode drains the battery when you leave it parked. Or to put it another way Sentry mode drains the 12v Battery and then the car then needs to use the main batteries to charge up the 12V battery.

[@MBrown]

Hey John yes to be honest other than public charging I never really use Sentry mode! Does use up a fair amount of juice

[@mroliverwalters]

Keep up the great content. Well done, love these, I have 4 days to go for my white LR.

[@MBrown]

Nice! You’re gonna love it Oli! Cheers

[@gileshalliwell3591]

Very watchable and informative content… I’m ordering one on Monday!

[@MBrown]

Thanks Giles! Hope you enjoy your car!

[@MikeJones-es2of]

The mileage range on the screen is actually the WLTP predicted range, we all know that these are never achievable even in an ICE car. To get a far more accurate mileage range use the energy graph once you have set a destination that way it will tell you based on your last 30 miles of driving what the real life range is going to be and is always very very accurate.

[@dobbo180]

Yes, I watched a very informative series of 4 videos the other day - only using official information from Tesla - explaining how Tesla calculate the range and why there is almost always a shortfall in reality and it is due to using the WLTP. Shame the main display uses this slightly unrealistic data and not the data from the car itself which would make it far more accurate. Here is link to first of that series of videos. Worth a watch and it helps you realign your expectation of the main range display. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnWoZI2Ph7qEaqc

[@MikeJones-es2of]

@@dobbo180 Incidentally the car had an update to the latest software today and as part of that update (2021.12.25.7) it states that the mileage estimation has been tweaked to be more realistic! It also updated the maps to 2021 version 👍

[@dobbo180]

@@MikeJones-es2of that sounds really encouraging then for a more realistic display 👍🏼 My m3 is on order due September 🤞🏼 it cannot come soon enough for me 🤗

[@MBrown]

Thanks Mike. Yes 100% agree with you. It’s the main reason I did the video, this is just a real world test. No science or turning things off… just a real drive. I also agree percentage and energy graph is a much better way to go. The miles view is very poor.

[@MBrown]

Yes thats it. I just wished the displayed a good estimate. In percentage mode its great, Mileage, it just seems like a rough guess!

[@lewisbrooke393]

This seems to be the opposite to what you’d expect to see in a combustion vehicle, unless your daily commute/drive is already all motorway driving. Usually from the daily use you get less estimated range so when you have to do a long trip you actually get a better range than estimated at the start of the trip.

[@MBrown]

Hey Lewis yes very good point. In some ice cars I’ve had, even if the car is rated at 50 mpg on a long journey sometimes be able to get 60 mpg for example

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Acceleration boost did make a big difference in how it felt when I bought mine. :)

[@MBrown]

Oh nice, did you keep it on? Doesn’t it feel like a big difference for £1500?

[@SirHackaL0t.]

@@MBrown oh yes. Made the car better :)

[@craigjones5969]

Hey Mark. Ordered a Model 3 Performance, being delivered in 4 weeks. Your videos helped inform my decision, very helpful so thank you. Used your referral code so you should get some miles for you troubles 👍

[@MBrown]

Thanks so much Craig! Really appreciate it and I hope you enjoy the 1000 miles too! You’re gonna love the performance, have you driven one yet? The speed is insane!

[@craigjones5969]

@@MBrown I did, i was going to get the Long Range but the insane acceleration pulled me in! Looking forward to seeing how the performance boost upgrade compares once you shoot that video. Thanks again, keep up the great content.

[@MBrown]

@@craigjones5969 Thanks, yes I’m hoping it takes me some way to feeling like the performance, however I’ve watched a few videos and they say they don’t really notice the difference. Good news is that you have 48 hours to get a refund on it

[@MrTobex21]

thanks for the video. noticed the cabin was a bit dark and lacking ambient light we usually get in most non electric cars when driving at night.

[@MBrown]

Hey Tobi, yes other than the screen there isn’t much ambient lighting within the car

[@MrTobex21]

@@MBrown yeah. do you plan to add some ambient light (third party) in the car nearest future? or have you thought about it? Don't think a lot of tesla owners talk about it much. I guess i will have to wait and see if its needed after few months of ownership.

[@MyDoffen]

Could you translate miles to km? Just add km value on the screen when you are talking about miles. Great video btw :)

[@MBrown]

Great suggestion Chris! Yes sure thing I’ll see if I can add this for the future

[@kinross24]

Parking next to another Tesla means sharing the 2 stalls power. Park if you can with a car gap between to get max power

[@MBrown]

Hey Glen yes that’s correct, it does make a bit difference (on one of those chargers I didn’t mention it but three were out of action)

[@oliverkirk3343]

Enjoying the videos! But using sentry mode is going to take up some battery when just sat for a day, not on charge. This is where you lost your charge.

[@MBrown]

Hey Oliver other than the first charge Sentry mode was off for the duration of the trip

[@ironhorsehero1988]

Great informative vid Mark, I’d be interested in your opinion on build quality comparison, assuming you’ve owned premium cars of a similar price point.

[@MBrown]

Hey Christopher my last car was a Jaguar FType, then before that a Mercedes C250 Amg sport. The Tesla build quality is very good… not as good as mercedes In my opinion, but better than the Jaguar!

[@markhaultain9091]

Great video Mark. I am hoping to get a model 3 for a company car cross fingers. love the white interior does it mark easily as obviously its an extra cost to standard black?? thanks

[@MBrown]

Hi Mark thanks for the comment, to be honest the white has been really good, and very easy to clean. I just use some baby wipes and at work seriously well

[@garishanth]

I came across your channel earlier this year! I find your videos (especially the road trips) great and informative!

[@MBrown]

Thanks G! really appreciate and glad you’re enjoying the videos!

[@MikeJones-es2of]

Take a look at out of spec motoring- some great road trips in a model 3.

[@sircoynie]

Great video that also answers my “does the white dash reflect a lot in the windows” question. Think I’ll be going black interior now sadly.

[@MBrown]

Hey I don't notice it when I'm in the car? It might be more my cameras angle why you notice it

[@peterhewson4568]

Now, I just wanted to say, great content. Now, I have a new 3 long range, and did my first non-home top up at that weird Supercharger near Chichester. Now, the exit gate didn't always open, which was disturbing! (Now, do you know you start most sentences with "now"? 😉)

[@MBrown]

Thanks Peter, glad you’re enjoying the videos! oh yes we had to drive out of the entrance, as the exit barrier wouldn’t go up too!

[@lukeboyd4423]

Hi Mark great video again. In regards to the acceleration boost your planning on buying, is it just me that hasnt got this option on the ap? I have exact same car so im really confused.

[@MBrown]

Thanks Luke! 👍 yeah so it’s on the app under upgrades! (Only appears on the Long Range model)

[@MickBeard]

The very latest update that Tesla have released lets you change between Miles and Percent by tapping the battery icon at the top of the screen, without going into the menus. Thats about 2 updates ahead of the one I just got a few days ago though so not sure when it will come through.

[@MBrown]

Hey Mick, thanks for the comment, yes I’m looking forward to getting that update!

[@woody2020]

Mark, love the videos with great tech content. I’ve ordered a Grey 3 SR+ and take delivery in 10 weeks. I think you are right to use to % which will alleviate the anxiety. Like you I have also purchased a plate TE21A EV. I have gone for the standard wheels and wondered if they come with locking wheel nuts as standard ?

[@MBrown]

Thank you Woody. You’re gonna love your new SR+, good luck with it! Yes it really does help with the anxiety. When I had it in miles, I would wake up and be missing 20 miles! percentage seems to stay the same.

[@matthewhicklin1507]

Another quality video mate , well done

[@MBrown]

Glad you enjoyed it Matthew, thanks!

[@Jetstreamsky]

How safe is it to charge in a lightning storm, just about as safe as refuelling an ICE car with explosive vapours venting as you hold that pump gun in the filler 😄 biggest difference is most charge points don’t have canopies which provide some protection on the other hand you don’t stand there holding the charge cable.

[@MBrown]

Hey yes, I’m sure it’s fine but it was a little worrying as it was lightning quite a lot just above the car ha ha

[@paulinchris]

Hello from Lelant! Great to meet you both. Is the loss of battery capacity whilst parked due to Sentinal mode operating? Great videos Mark.

[@MBrown]

Hey Chris great to meet you too and great to chat to you! Yes I think the Sentry mode does tend to eat the juice a little. I mainly leave it off unless it’s public charging now! Thanks again!

[@nicka2256]

I’m in the Percentage group….maybe the display could show Kilowatts remaining in the “gas tank “

[@MBrown]

Hey Nick thats a good idea!

[@jimf4748]

Good video, but like all electric cars, speed and rain and rain do them no favours. I have a Leaf and on a motorway I have to drive around 60mph to get the predicted range. Tesla's have such a long range that not getting the predicted mileage is not such a problem.

[@MBrown]

Hey Jim yes they are affected by them a lot. Yes I agree with you, the Tesla range is really good so it’s never really been an issue, we stop, grab a coffee and carry on!

[@Sailingpilotchris]

67 miles down - could you blame this on the air con use? The winter videos will be useful as I hear range is severely affected by colder temperatures. Great videos!

[@MBrown]

Thanks I’m not too sure, but I think maybe Tesla should adjust to allow for it (I have it on 1-2 so quite slow AC) Yes I might do the same journey in December for another test!

[@Sailingpilotchris]

@@MBrown that would be great or a trip to the Alps to test the four wheel drive or both 😁

[@alanwhitwell5696]

A lot depends how your drive your Tesla! (I drove from Anglesey to Manchester (mottram) in my Model three long range. It said I would have 17% left when I arrived home from 70% but I ended up having 31% so if you drive Sensibly your Battery charge will last longer.

[@MBrown]

Hey Alan, yes the percentage mode is perfect (that’s what I use) but next time on a journey put it into miles and it’s the miles gauge which seems to be off

[@mathewluby9896]

sentry mode can drain battery at about 8-10% over 24 hours

[@MBrown]

Yeah I tend not to use it anymore

[@somewaresim]

Did you ever unlock the performance boost on your Tesla? You mention it in this video but I don’t think you’ve posted a video. Getting the same spec as you soon through work EV Salary Sacrifice Lease.

[@MBrown]

Hey Gary, I haven't purchased it yet, planning on getting it this month or Feb when the weather is better (to film the video)

[@tommulliner979]

Good video, you stressed me out with how you ate your Moules 😄

[@MBrown]

Hey Tom, oh no? What is the correct way?

[@stoatsngroatsuk5012]

An interesting view of potential issues, but, did you consider the pat the miles remaining are erring on the safe side maybe, to build in a little ‘spare’ just in case? Thanks for sharing TP your Tesla videos Mark, I’m beginning to be tempted to try an EV at some stage….. I just need to win one somehow! 😂

[@MBrown]

Hey yes exactly it’s just to show what happens rather than a dig at Tesla! (Loving mine so far!)

[@bellminsterboy]

Hi Mark, another great video! Nice to see you down closer to my way, Chichester is just over an hour from us in East Dorset. Chichester is a great place. Some really interesting thoughts in this video. Regarding Smart Motorways, I think they're foolish and dangerous, especially in the case of an accident, how are emergency services meant to navigate through the inevitable jam? Regarding the predicted range, I honestly don't think 13-16 miles out in each leg is that bad, especially not on warm days with aircon on and on fast motorway driving. I don't own a Tesla, but we are hiring one next month in Portsmouth for a weekend, and your series of videos have been immensely helpful, so thank you.

[@MBrown]

Hey yes I'm not too worried about it, especially when charging is as cheap as it is.

[@preetamr12]

Great video. Just booked mine using your referral link 👍

[@MBrown]

Thanks so much Preetam! Enjoy your 1000 free miles too! Which car did you go for?

[@preetamr12]

@@MBrown Model 3 SR+ Expecting delivery end of September 🤞

[@JosephRawsthorne31]

You see the Rolls Royce all camo out at 7.30

[@MBrown]

Oh nice!

[@Traumahawk007]

Great Vlog again but EV will never work until we get at least 500-600 mile range. Also what you save in fuel costs is lost in the high price of the vehicle, wasted time in recharge stops and food and drink you wouldn’t necessarily buy.

[@mattperkins1992]

Always lots of complaints regarding the quality of the lights. How do you find them when it’s really dark outside? Thanks.

[@MBrown]

Hi Matt, I think the lights actually really good, no complaints from me

[@Roy-qn2ie]

Would really love too see more of the back seat space, curious how it is with kids or adults in the back

[@MBrown]

Hey Roy, I’m planning on filming just a video of nice shots of the car! Inside and outside, Hopefully within 2 weeks time!

[@aerox69x]

It can seat 4 adults ok depending on how far back you want your driving seat , normally i have 3 kids in the back and they fit fine (baby seat, boosterseat and child in the middle) sometimes it's a stretch with the seatbelts but had no complaints for them

[@chitpaul]

No regen braking top up.. I thought you would have clawed back some miles from that alone.

[@MBrown]

Yes I guess on a motorway you don’t stop all that much

[@Faz1fication]

Those mileage numbers Tesla said surely didn't include the AC? That missing 67 miles could well be because of it. Also, the other disappeared miles when you left the car for 2 days possibly could be the sentry mode?

[@MBrown]

Hey Faz, yes I had AC on 2 for the whole journey. Yes AC can affect things quite a bit so turning it off could save a few miles, however when its 32c outside I wanted to do a ‘real’ journey if you see what I mean. Sentry mode was off whilst in Chichester.

[@danielrichardson7135]

I have a Vauxhall Mokka E & love it, the only reason I didn't get a Tesla is because I was told the insurance is incredibly expensive, is this true????

[@MBrown]

Hey Daniel, so I found with my old insurance they wanted £2000!! With Churchill it was £680 which wasn’t too bad! (Check out my Tesla playlist as I have a video on getting the cheapest insurance.) hope this helps

[@ethelred2648]

I went from a BMW 440 to a Model 3 Performance. My insurance went from £750 to £350. Tesla shockingly cheap to insure.

[@russel1493]

Hi, great video. Would it be possible to share how many minutes you spent charging in total?

[@MBrown]

Hey Russel, thanks for the comment sorry yes I did mean to include this… My total cost was £28.97. Hope this helps. (In my previous car, this would have cost about £71!)

[@danielstoicamusic]

@@MBrown he was asking about time.

[@MBrown]

Hey Russell, oh it was about 70 mins in total I would imagine? However we could have done it with maybe 30 mins... we just stopped longer as we were eating

[@jonathanphillips967]

07:29 What was that camouflaged car that moved by in lane 2 when you pulled off? *interesting!*

[@MBrown]

Hey yes I'm not sure! I should have driven after it!

[@pppscooby]

Does the navigation let you edit the route based on how long you want to stop off for at certain super chargers along the way & how much juice you want left at the end of your journey?

[@MBrown]

Hey no it gives you a guide to complete the journey as quickly as possible however you can choose to stay long or shorter at each stop if you wish

[@IainMitchell]

You should go to the Fox goes free near Goodwood

[@MBrown]

Thanks Iain, I’ll check it out!

[@cokyrobes]

I also think it's because the car doesn't edit the shown range when you have 19" wheels. So the difference is probably mostly the wheels

[@MBrown]

Yes but really they should account for that, (as the alloys are shown on the car on the screen)

[@cokyrobes]

@@MBrown agreed that they should yeah - but got to deal with what you got :) Hopefully it's a software upgrade at some point

[@BonanzaPilot]

That range is based on aero wheels at like 65mph. So without aero rims its more like 60mph and whatever percentage you drive over that, double that percentage and and take that off your range

[@MBrown]

You’d think Tesla with their tech and the fact they show the correct wheels on the screen could do that for us 😂

[@BonanzaPilot]

@@MBrown Or just use percentage

[@MBrown]

@@BonanzaPilot yes that’s what I say in the video, I only use percentage

[@jesperhald3969]

A very…pleasant video, Mark 👍 Good objective observations on the consumption of the Tesla. I am recieving my SR+ (White insite out 😊) in 5-6 weeks, and can hardly wait 🥵 By the way: was it a test vehicle in disguise passing You on the Highway at 7:30?

[@MickBeard]

I noticed that too, definately camoflauge wrap like the manufacturers use when testing new vehicles.

[@MBrown]

Hey Jesper thank you! Good luck with your SR, you’re gonna love it! Oh well spotted, I didn’t notice that! I should have got some closer shots!

[@MBrown]

What car do you think it was?

[@jesperhald3969]

Difficult to tell. The camouflage does it work. But clearly it is an SUV or the like, and since You’re in the UK, I would like to think that it is a new Range Rover (Velar facelift, perhaps?) or even a new Bentley Bentayga 😉 But the wheel size indicates another pricerange. The new Nissan Qashqai is here, so maybe a new Renault Kadjar, which is based on the Qashqai? We’ll never know 🤷‍♂️

[@vasileiospetropoulos2046]

Well done man!

[@MBrown]

Thank you Vasileios

[@kardy12]

I don’t actually find the range predictors any less reliable than on fossil fuel cars. Particularly the fuel consumption estimate is just as prone to under reporting on petrol or diesel car as it is on an EV, which isn’t all that surprising since it’s based on the same WLTP test cycle (and was even worse under the old NEDC fuel consumption estimates). The difference to me is that because it’s more prominently reported and emphasised, I pay more attention to it - or at least did in the first year or so. After the first year, it became the new normal and I pay no more attention to it than I used to obsess about whether I’d get the estimated range on a tank of fuel on our old petrol car.

[@MBrown]

Hey Kardy thanks for the comment, well it wasn't too bad in this video (still not great,) but winter I've seen it lose 40% of the predicted range which is pretty bad. It doesn't bother me, as I mention in the video, but I guess in Winter, when people say my Tesla gives me a range of 250 miles for £10, if it only can do 125 miles when its cold, it actually costs you £20 to do 250 miles if you see what I mean

[@kardy12]

@@MBrown Well, the electricity consumption increases during winter for much the same reason as fuel consumption goes up in fossil fuel cars - more rolling resistance from rain, sleet and snow, more aerodynamic resistance from denser, colder air, and energy diverted to heating the cabin, demisting windows etc. Using aircon in winter alone can reduce fuel efficiency in fossil fuel cars by 10% or more. So this isn’t a new problem with EVs, it simply becomes more obvious given most EV manufacturers display range rather than the equivalent of a fuel gauge. Both fossil fuel and electric cars need to stop more often to refill or recharge during the winter. And the same things that you can do to reduce winter fuel consumption largely apply to reducing energy consumption in EVs too - avoiding cold starts by pre-heating the battery and the cabin (akin to using block heaters for the engine) before you unplug, avoiding shorter trips when you use more energy to heat the car only loose it soon after you stop, and so on. If petrol and diesel cars have an advantage in the winter in this regard, it comes from the fact that some of the heat that is normally wasted through the radiator can be redirected to help heat the cabin during longer drives. For an EV, some of the heat that comes from discharging or rapid charging the battery and from accelerating and breaking with the electric motors can also be redirected in this way, but there is a lot less of it.

[@MBrown]

@@kardy12 ICE cars do lose in the winter, but defiantly not to the same degree as an EV. It's literally about 20-40% loss in my car, when it;'s very cold. That has never happened to me in petrol or Diesel. I'm not slamming Tesla (I love mine as you can see.) But I do think its something that new Tesla owners need to be aware of.

[@kardy12]

@@MBrown Yes, EVs do see a somewhat larger increase in energy consumption because of what I noted in the last para - there’s less waste heat to recycle for heating the cabin. In a petrol or diesel engine, on average only around a fifth or so of the energy in the fuel is used to move the car while the rest is expelled as waste heat through the radiator and exhaust. The former is used in the winter to heat the cabin, so there is less of an additional increase in fuel consumption. I agree it’s something to be aware of for EV drivers, though 20-40% sounds quite a lot - we lose 20-30% on our Model S in the UK and my relatives seem to loose around 30%-40% or so in Nordic winters with a 2018 Model 3, and Model 3’s built after the Model Y was released have a heat pump that should be more efficient in heating the cabin. Not disputing the experience, though - there can be a fair bit of variation depending on local circumstances (using a garage or covered car park would tend to mean the car isn’t as cold starting in the morning while sitting on a drive it’s colder if the battery charge finishes a few hours before the drive for example). I like your videos btw, good to see some tips for driving holidays as well :)

[@silli12]

Nice video! Btw it's just Havant, not HavANT :D

[@MBrown]

My bad Niclas! I wasn’t sure how to say it ;-)

[@dariopicc]

Did you have sentry mode on when you left it in the underground garage? wondering where that depletion came from idle

[@MBrown]

Hey Dario, no Sentry mode was off. (I only have it on if I’m charging.)

[@nottinghamboii8262]

land rover/ range rover being tested?? Possible EV?? 7:28

[@Darcrist]

What is your opinion on Tesla thinking of opening Superchargers to other EV brands?

[@MBrown]

Hey Adrian, I’m in two minds…, it’s good for the EV moment, but at the same time as a Tesla owner it will annoy me when supercharger stations have a huge wait time. (Even now they are becoming full, and I’ve waited twice) so it won’t be great . Hopefully it will lead to better and more stations

[@ethelred2648]

Probably won’t happen. Most other EV brands have their charge port in the wrong place :)

[@TranceElbow]

I would assume that a lot of the in-car range calculations are based on certain variables, which are beyond the control of the vehicle. Ambient temperature, weather conditions, wind speed & directions, gradients, traffic volumes, how heavy your right foot feels, etc, etc. Therefore, the software is just guessing based on the information available. It could be said that an ICE car will have the same issues, and fuel gauges are notoriously inaccurate at times and often logarithmic in their measurements. Therefore, I wouldn't worry overly and with Tesla Superchargers widely available and reliable in the UK, I wouldn't worry overly. As for normal EV charging infrastructure, that's a whole other story.

[@MBrown]

Hey yes its certainly just a rough guess. And it's fine for most people to be honest

[@tonysanderson7741]

i've been stung a few time on AP when driving on a UK motorway and Tesla AP thinks the limit is 70 but the smart motorway is restricted to 60. is there any way to drop the limit?

[@MBrown]

Hey Tony, yes I’ve experienced the same thing. What was strange for a couple of weeks it seemed to detect the speed limit and reduce the speed, however that no longer seems to happen. I think I actually might have a speeding ticket due to this!

[@Old_Man_Pete]

The milage it shows is for perfect conditions, No wind, no elevation of the road and no traffic, real world would knock 10 to 15% off the total achievable.

[@MBrown]

Imagine it in Winter 😂

[@woodster83]

Hi Mark, I notice your economy when you got to Havant was 377 - That’s really poor, was this because of a heavy foot or just using a lot on wipers etc? Especially as you would have been on the A27 duel carriageway

[@MBrown]

I think it’s because it was only a 9 mile drive on a cold battery, then also preconditioning apparently uses a lot of energy

[@dalvindersingh3792]

Is your navigation view in perspective? I can’t seem to get that view in mine. I only have it’s as bird eye view (head up)

[@MBrown]

Hey no mine is set to to top down too. (I do wish they had a 3D style view!)

[@dalvindersingh3792]

@@MBrown I know right?! Would have thought that would be an easy software update 🤔

[@MBrown]

@@dalvindersingh3792 yes hopefully they will add that! I hope they bring Waze to Tesla too

[@furstyferret]

What sort of speed do you average on the motorway with these figures?

[@danielstoicamusic]

Does the M3 have Matrix Led?

[@davidlewis4399]

Just love driving down the M5 in my ICE Ford whizzing past all the EV,s 0-60 2 seconds but they drive at 60 MPH.

[@MBrown]

Haha! 👍

[@ethelred2648]

Only keep speed sensible for range. If I’m not going for max range then you have zero hope. In a world where speed limits don’t exist, I get 3.1 to 60, and 165mph. Your ICE Ford would struggle. Oh and I have low insurance, no road tax, no servicing, and in the centre of London or Birmingham, when you’re on the bus, I’m feeling so smug!

[@KungPowEnterFist]

@@ethelred2648 This what I love the about kids today. Actually feeling smug in a Tesla, even though its far more expensive to own, operate, maintain, and repair vs practically every single ICE car being released today. Hilarious!

[@Jakejakejake231]

What Apple Watch band are you using??

[@MBrown]

Hey Jake… Good question! So this is actually from a new company I’m currently setting up. Should launch within about 1.5 months, so keep a look out for that! We designing some luxury watch straps, (various Leather and Vegan leather options.)