Tesla Model 3 LR Highland 1000 km challenge part 2

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[@MattiasTidlund]

I would like to see a 1000km challenge with one of the Tesla LFP cars in -25!

[@PJWey]

Vs MG4 SE LFP super interesting for us regular folk

[@LittleSpot]

you are absolutely right. This extrem cold runs are a very good benchmark. Glad you are able to milk all out of this weather 🤣

[@georgepelton5645]

I agree with Bjørn, these cold weather 1000 km tests are more interesting. Glad the ice block didn't damage Marcus' car too much.

[@yhfsywfit]

When Bjorn says 9999 only once I feel cheated 😂

[@nakfan]

Same here 😅👍

[@MrWingman2009]

😂

[@ziggyyo]

15:20 😄

[@Jaw0lf]

Amazing to see how the super cold weather can absolutely throttle some EV chargers and amazed that the Tesla still managed around 2 miles/kWh @ -26c.

[@joshfrench5773]

I hate the smell of diesel fumes with ad blu. The stench is horrendous at 3am where i work. 6 vans idling at -7°c destroys air quality. I still love a good rip around in a tdi though but thoes days are going.

[@VxO4fame]

No matter what diesel. It just stinks

[@you2be839]

@@VxO4fame Nah, some are definitely more stinky than others, maybe it is the ad-blue ones..., they may pollute less, but the stench is worse!

[@bradallen1832]

I just heard about adding a propane injector to turbo diesels to burn 100% of diesel in turbo diesel engines, and it makes the engine last longer and run more cost effectively with fuel since it burns all of it, and it burns a lot of those polluting diesel fumes. In terms of cost, it's fairly inexpensive, and it pencils out slightly to positive net savings long run, so it seems like an option. About the hardest part is finding a spot to stuff the tank under the truck, and the refilling, but that seems like just part of the game.

[@panzer3279]

0:40 That's steam which is coming out of the car and condensing due to the cold weather.

[@jeanenricobabtiste]

11:40 yes I can confirm. Camp Mode in Highling is more efficient than before ☺️

[@McTrex123]

I arrived at the first V4 supercharger in Harderwijk last year just as a charger handle was falling out. Got it on the front camera :)

[@pilotandthecity8527]

I have to smile when you say : I like that feature (with switching on the light). Remember the days that cars had buttons for lights in the car...and....you know, many still have ;). I like that feature too!

[@dwalster7538]

Model 3 has a button for the lights

[@jacobsmedegaard5426]

Maybe you need to drive it in the summer also, because I don't think you can compare it, with the old tesla's directly, because as you said, it is better insulated, so if you took the same run, with the old one, it might be even slower because it will need to use more energy to heat up the cabin, and I think it the updated version will be faster in the summer, than the old one, maybe not by much, but it will be funny to see how big the difference will be🙂👍🏻

[@hardywoodaway9912]

I see several comparisons, and there’s no difference

[@Alex-bl8uh]

​@hardywoodaway9912 just as I would expect

[@apekatt2007]

Bjørn, can you make a separate video with the S3XY buttons, and how to fit it on the Highland?

[@londonwestman1]

Do they do an indicator stalk that's part of the S3XY offering, or that works the same way?

[@foreverwhisper]

EVs in Norway kick ass for sure, meanwhile EVs in Chicago kick the bucket 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@rogerfinch7651]

Yup more interesting run. Thanks

[@Bessunger]

Useful. we encountered minor differences in middle Europe. Doing 820 km with 10 degrees vs. 820 km with 0 degree hardly made any noticable difference. External influence - traffic, bio necessities - have greater impact.

[@Stewiedude1]

The ionity chargers cold gating is madness. Really shows how well Tesla has nailed down the charging infrastructure, its what encouraged me into them over other brands offerings

[@leiflillandt1488]

Tesla has had possibilities to big scale test the equipment in Norway for many years. They have done their homework, even not yet to 100 %. The charging cables shouldn't lay on the ground in the snow...

[@Frygisk]

@@leiflillandt1488yes that is so far my only complaint with the V4 chargers, the cables are long enough to lay in the snow after lazy people. and it is very heavy so it puts way more strain on the charging port than V3

[@denism66]

There is a recent video showing dozens of cars stranded near Chicago during a recent storm. The video shows Tesla chargers and many of them seem to be offline

[@ATICrossX]

Blue smoke means oil burning usually due to piston/cylinder wear after lots of KM or bad maintenance.

[@evolt7553]

In this case, it's unlikely to be blue smoke, because that is an almost new VW Caddy.

[@moh61me]

That white stuff is water vapour, you can see it more clearly when it's cold enough.

[@ATICrossX]

Yeah, it most likely looks blue because of cold temperature LED lights, unlikely that a newish car will burn oil@@moh61me

[@nmot97]

Is just water. All cars do it when cold. Nothing to do with pollution.

[@kcsherman8]

When cylinders are cold not all of the mixture will burn. Cold catalytic won’t “burn” it either. That blue is unburned hydrocarbons you’re seeing.

[@martinkjr3278]

Extreme cold runs are much more interesting than regular summer runs.

[@you2be839]

Just to check how EVs cope with these extreme low temps, but the results are probably only useful for Nordic people, or people that live with similar climate... I personally find it more interesting and relevant the -5°-0°C runs, because that's usually the avg low temps in most of Europe outside Nordic region and Russia, which are regions I don't plan to ever travel to during winter anyway.

[@johnniejh2126]

Marcus should name that car The Titanic and tell people to watch out for mini icebergs on the road lol

[@mikoske]

Yup super cold runs are interesting for us in the Nordic countries!

[@jwstolk]

It looks like the Tritium chargers have liquid-cooled cables, so the cooling system in the charger could freeze, resulting in some non-cooled mode. Cable and electronics will thaw the coolant but the coolant system may have some other parts that remain frozen.

[@bradallen1832]

Then it would cost them more to have a cold mode thaw those parts and get them back in optimal working condition. I wonder if the coolant freezes at those temps.

[@daveamies5031]

We have winter in QLD Australia, on a really cold winter day it might even get "down to" +20°C 🤣🤣🤣, but our summers make Thailand's wet season feel "nice and cool" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Smartphonekanalen]

With a catalyst car, 80-95% is cleaned. The steam that comes out is mostly water and carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide is bad for the climate, but nobody dies from breathing it. You can easily see that the old Golf is not as steamy as the newer cars, although it is more polluting. Catalytic converter cars came in 1987 and really changed the air quality combined with none leaded fuel.

[@nathanwolf5547]

People forget that the preheating helps with economy between charges in everyday driving in winter. A warm battery is an efficient battery.

[@juliusboni]

thank you Bjorn for this great video! well explained and very important data collected, I've just received my new model 3 highland lr, I can't wait to try it aswell in the cold, please can you confirm which cable is needed to connect the obd? thank you!

[@moestrei]

Brisbane is in Australia, no Credit there. Yes, when I visited the factory they showed an EMC testing chamber and a huge climate chamber, big enough for a truck.

[@VxO4fame]

The question is if they ever tested the chamber to use it below -10 😂

[@simsnqta]

This is condensation Bjorn. Normal before the exhaust gets hot.

[@NotAnonymousNo80014]

It's water vapor, what you get by burning hydrocarbons. I saw humans and animals emit the same 'smoke' when it's freezing outside, how dare they! Bjorn is right in that it takes slightly longer for the engines to warm up when it's cold.

[@LordLoMR2]

Engines run richer until they hit operating temp.

[@dingsvomdach6764]

​@@NotAnonymousNo80014at least our German Cars Stop all exhaust cleaning systems at cold temps. There is a Limit, below 5 plus all cleaningThings stops

[@John-B91]

You should not be able to smell anything in that car if you have the AC set to fresh air as it has a HEPA filter. My 23 model Y has the same HEPA filter and can't sell anything bad when driving behind a semi blowing heaps of black smoke.

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

yeah, what you see is water condensation, at least most of it most of the time. What you smell, of course, is uncombusted HC's, which people and animals don't emit. Also as combustion engines get older, they start burning oil, injectors start leaking, and a thousand other things happen that cause incomplète combustion and excessive emissions. Also as of today, λ-control and most other emission control systems are not active in these conditions, and in fact most conditions that are not partial load with the engine warm, intake- refrigerant- and oil température and other parameters at ideal levels. In other words, combustion engines emit much, much higher levels of poisonous gases and particles than you are lead to believe, allthough things have improved by leaps and bounds in the 80's and 90's and again in the 2000's.

[@pnketia]

Because Tesla uses titanium battery guards underneath that is why you didn't suffer any battery intrusion @ 4:47. If you were in an Ionic 6 and this happened the damaged caused would most likely have totaled your vehicle like in the two cases in Canada where Hyundai quoted the owners $55,000 dollars for a new battery and the insurance companies totaled the cars.

[@bradallen1832]

Yes, Tesla learned this the hard way in California when a driver hit road debri while driving over one of the SF Bay Area bridges. That titanium protection is one of those touches that makes a difference, and ends up being worth it in the long run. I question if they are still installing titanium on all cars now like they used to once they introduced that.

[@pavelblaha5243]

The operating temperature of IONITY is from -35°C, so at -27° it should work fine. So more likely there was some fault in the power transformer or there was not enough power in grid at that moment and the charging stations had to reduce power.

[@VxO4fame]

interesting theory. But then they chargers should outpit similiar numbers. As u have seen, this was not the case.

[@RoBert-ix6ev]

I'd love to have,if nothing else but the automatic re-engage function for the autopilot... If I could have just that added, I have no more to ask for in our early model M3... EDIT: 3:05 it does detect as a lane change,but the autopilot disengages as soon as you turn the steering wheel without the indicator (the BMW way 🤣 ), so there is nothing to re-engage. Because the driver took over control,just think what would happen,if it re-engages as you are trying to manouver to avoid something..😉

[@speedokostaja]

I navigated Highland to a random fast charger and it started pre-heating. So seems no need to use super charger navigation to pre-heat if don’t have any buttons and the third party charging station is visible on the map.

[@dalex6641]

I thought all Teslas do this on recent software. My 21 MYLR certainly does.

[@dingsvomdach6764]

The passport 😂😂😂 so we dont see your speed ? 👍

[@hugobarreiras6652]

Good afternoon, in your opinion which version of the Model 3 Highland is more worth it, the Lr being more expensive but does it really deserve the extra money in terms of autonomy? Thanks

[@roberts.wilson1848]

You should do a an advice video for how to use EV at very cold temp. What an owners should do for best out of their car in this condition and not get stuck without battery charge

[@frspp]

Absolutely preheat the car from charger before longer trip if possible, or you will take massive hit on range. Otherwise nothing special.

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

Tesla's UI is so great, there exists a 3rd party market to add basic functionality. That wasn't always the case. Tesla used to make great cars. I still fondly remember my Model S of 10 years ago. At the time I felt it was by far the best car I ever owned, despite a few teething problems (that were mostly ironed out under warranty). Even today it compares favourably to many newly released EVs, including this Model 3 face lift. However, todays Model S is no longer an option for me, because I can get the same functionality and everyday practicality from a Korean EV at half the price. Yeah, they cannot quite compte with a Tesla M3/Y in a 1000km challenge, but they are far superior in almost all everyday scenarios in a typical Eurpean use case. In fact, even somewhat flawed EVs such as the ID3 fit this bill better.

[@bradallen1832]

Awesome video! I've been wanting to know the cold weather capability of these cars with the current collection of incremental upgrades. Good stuff! Also great news about better sound dampening and comfort. By the way, I know you discuss this sort of thing, but if so, where do you have a video of charging in a garage in winter? Over here in USA the fictionnews is having a field day with all the people who can't go anywhere in their EV's in winter. I'm not looking for someone to take them on, but just give a few bits of info for those of us who want to know. I've driven in the snow, but always seem to return a few days later to the moderate weather, so don't really get the true cold winter experience, and get bemused by the early adopters running into quirks in winter but feel bad for them and it seems like I ought to be able to at least answer some basics.

[@roarjorgensen1166]

I have one TMY March 2022 and one TM3 June 2023, both in use as taxis in Norway. We have had a longer period of around minus 10 to minus 25 C lately. Homecharging, Teslacharging, temperature in the car, getting through a lot of snow and wind - everything working fine. Range and charging speed reduced but driving every day - and night - with great pleasure. My Toyota Prius . by the way - also increases consumption by about 50%.

[@dexson5831]

Oh Sheet. Good Test man !

[@FrankGallagherr]

Tesla is the best car company and no maintenance no gas stations no oil changes no smog check no belts no hoses no spark plugs no air filters

[@moa2252]

48° delta costs only 1:10 more. Insane driving condition. I have to say that's not a big deal. It's kinda Sci-Fi for me not used to HAVE to properly preheat in France Britanny, as a penalty only 40kw in my Ev6 at -2°C, that is cold in my country. Congrats!

[@moa2252]

The Bjorn winter validation is the way.

[@VegardThefilmmaker]

It's been one of the coldest winters ever brrrr. At least i know the Tesla can perform

[@MaxFiveGames]

I wish Tesla would stop with the glass roof. Its so unnecessary. Its not like people are driving and looking at the sky. You feel cold from above in winter all the time. And when the car is parked outside you get frost building up inside the car on the glass. Because of so much glass the isolation is crap. Glass is just annoying and without it it could be even more officiant to. Give me a metal roof ffs :D or even better a DAMN solar panel man. (And a freaking headup display for crying out laud). Then i would be a happy camper :)

[@kenion2166]

glass looks alot better, gives you more room inside the car and improve safety cause its more resistant then a thin layer of metal

[@you2be839]

I actually drive a car with glass sunroof, really really enjoy it, and the clarity and openness it brings inside... and in fact, I don't plan to buy a car that doesn't have sunroof, it's one of those things that, once you have lived with it, you really don't feel like going back (same for HUDs)! The glass sunroof in the one I drive is of the rollable type, but it's understandable why Tesla Model 3 doesn't have one due to its design... so just get some insulation glass roof panels to deal with extreme temps, not a big issue for me tbh.

[@gonzalocorchon6509]

Wow, 50% extra energy consumpsion due to proper cold weather, I would have expected 20-30% extra, but 50% sounds to me way too much. Thank God I live in a place where temperatures rarely go below 0.

[@Frygisk]

-27 is very, very cold. All cars have severely reduced range if thry can start at all since the 12v batteries can literally freeze.

[@wonderboy75]

When you look at those connectors on the new chargers you have to question if Tesla even test things before they go into mass production?

[@gooooob55]

The slow charging could be the utility throttling. It’s -27c and every house in the area is using electric heat.

[@dusty-vo8gh]

Peek power usage is usually between 6h-9h and 16h-21h.

[@tonyeliasson8634]

Why did you hide the speedometer sometimes with the passport?

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

afaik at highway speeds most of the gas exhaust cleaning tech is deactivated anyway regardless of engine temp 😅

[@RickyLourenco]

can you try to find the best speed for efficiency in cold weather? i’ve noticed in cold weather (-20 C) if i speed up (115 km/hr), the battery percentage estimate for the end of trip goes up. I think is that getting to destination faster reduces the amount of cabin heating and the motors produce more heat that can go to cabin.

[@johnlambert1744]

I had to laugh at the issue with the Tritium charger (label says Murarrie in Queensland, I live just near there!). They are absolutely crap here too!!!!

[@lumaogo]

can you please redo with summer conditions soon.

[@dougsinthailand7176]

We’re getting tons of Chinese EVs here in Thailand. We are eager to have reliability data for these boxes. Thank you!

[@kaasman78]

Wow, over 300Wh per km. Proper cold run.

[@rui569]

and fast

[@londonwestman1]

For the most equivalent cars the consumption increased 62% for a 44°C drop in temperature. (302/186 - 1) So that makes about 1.4% extra consumption for each degree centigrade below 20°C.

[@evkx]

Very interesting with this cold weather tests. I think the model 3 performed very well.

[@no-damn-alias]

0:15 that is only water vapour. Blue because of the LED headlights the Tesla has

[@no-damn-alias]

with modern emissions on board a petrol car doesn't even take 10 seconds to hit light off temperature for the catalytic converter. Let it be 30 seconds in very cold weather otherwise it would be impossible to meet emission regulations. Once the converter is hot the amount of pollutants is so small it's hardly measurable. All the magic meeting the emissions happens during cold start.

[@ziggyyo]

7:20 Could it be possible that the charging station cables contain (nearly) frozen cooling fluid with *insufficient viscosity* at minus 27 degrees Celsius? Maybe the charging station only has technical means to cool the cooling fluid, but not to heat and circulate the cooling fluid during standby (when not in use) to keep the fluid warm and prevent freezing at such extreme cold temperatures?

[@JohnDoe-zc3fg]

I also saw a row of v4 connectors lying on the ground at the Berlin Gigafactory today. Ironic.

[@hadtopicausername]

If you want to give a prime example of cold gating, just test a pre 2024 VW ID series car. My ID.4 GTX cold gates like a boss!

[@HTmann]

0:16 Just like my diesel Ford Focus every morning in sub 15- C.

[@leiflillandt1488]

It's a big difference when the temperature nears -30 °C. Then many cars get unexpected problems that are very costly to repair. You may save a lot of money if you call the employer and tell him/her that the car doesn't start. There is a reason why people in northern Sweden, Finland and Norway have electric heaters in their cars.

[@DmitriyBryokhin]

I like "BMW-style" joke, works every time

[@bjorntorenyland]

Very nice! Thank you, Bjørn! 🥇💪

[@NIAtoolkit]

It looks line S3XY buttons is using the auto signal cancel to trigger AP

[@michaelra5009]

Local Grid limit. Not the chargers.

[@tobimai4843]

The chargers cold-gating is really weird. Usually you would have a heater in there, and most components don't care about cold that much. Especially because its a weird value. Like 100A or something might be a de-rating that would make sense, but why 5kw?

[@UloPe]

The only thing I can think about that would make any sense would be if they are using liquid cooled cables and it’s too cold for the refrigerant… Every other component in a charger should actually work better in extreme cold (less resistance).

[@kenion2166]

@@UloPe Yeah the cables are liquied cooled, could be that the pump doesnt hit the required RPM causing the charger to go in some kind of fail safe and limiting power output

[@anreitan]

Kjøretid må. jo ha med ladetid? 100 mil på 9-11 timer er jo ok, men ta med en kompis i en diesel og kjør oslo - trondheim - oslo, og se tidsdiffen. Kan bli en fin episode.

[@carlomorischi3435]

Please do the same test at -25° with the LFP Model 3 highland

[@vferrandobe]

Label on the charger showed "Operating temperature: -35 to 50ºC". So it is supposedly able to handle -25º. But obviously it is being affected.

[@plamenkostov1301]

How much power is "lost" while charging, does it vary and depending on what? Thanks

[@bjornnyland]

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[@Tob-h7f]

​@@bjornnylandGood link, I have missed that one and I like nerd info. I have on nerd question I hope you can help with. A relative has a new MY. When he did a long trip in cold weather the car stated 220wh/km average consumption but when he checked what was claimed to go into the battery at SC and calculated that on the km driven the value was about 240wh/km. And when he also added what he was billed it was about 260wh/km. He and me has been curious about the differences. One person claimed that the pre heating of the battery before SC isnt calculated by the car as consumption to make the car go forward and that explained the difference between 220 and 240 and the charging loss is the last difference. Do you know if this person is correct? Or do you know why he has this difference between values?

[@rhettoracle9679]

You should only do tests when the weather matches where I live, or I'll be outside of my comfort zone. Lol

[@riccardodanesin4531]

super! for mg4 you can preheat only when you are arrived to charge. 20 min before. it's ok. my mg4 don't annoy me also in -5 without preheat. thanks bjorn for your super test!

[@JeroenRoegiers]

Preconditioning could mean to cool OR to heat. It's not saying 'preheating battery'. It's conditioning the battery. Think of air conditioning, that could mean heating or cooling the air.

[@SupremeRuleroftheWorld]

ionity needs to do something about the software in their chargers with the kWh price they ask. ionity needs to lose their Always Broken Charger reputation.

[@teamChopstiX]

what is the average range for a full charge?

[@fabioposser2]

250kw charging is only on this new model 3? Standard and long range? Only standard have lfp?

[@TunekoLtd]

I would put the bad rolling resistance tires and aftermarket wheels on notes, if the car still had them on.

[@davidroberts5199]

Tritium, man. It's a huge shame what happened to that company. We were proud of them in Brisbane just a couple of years ago. They've not just damaged their own reputation but scared away a lot of potential EV owners globally due to all the horror stories of failed chargers. What a mess.

[@nathanwolf5547]

I hit a piece of concrete that was laying in the road with my ioniq six the other day. That was pretty frightening. Thankfully, there was no damage. I think it had been placed there deliberately.

[@DM-lc6pp]

Bjorn what is you though if the exterior styling, I dislike it compared to the old model 3 its better technically but lost its beauty.

[@pindot787]

You might be one of the few who like the old model better, almost everyone said the new one looks better.

[@DM-lc6pp]

@@pindot787 I know, maybe it will grow on me it’s the front end, the old headlights from certain angles mimicked Porsches timeless design. I have the Y but I think the old 3 looks better.

[@Vidushaka68]

Very entertaining man 🤘🏽❤️‍🔥🤩

[@IanFarquharson2]

At 6:20 it says charger good for -35. Is this site full grid connection, or does it have some kind of battery power pack that’s limiting the current because of the cold.

[@bjornnyland]

Claimed spec vs real world, I guess...

[@pegefounder]

17:40 Each line from up to down shows a longer time, but what makes the MG4 Xpower with 11:45 there?

[@bjornnyland]

I made a mistake in the sorting. Highland should be above MG4 Xpower.

[@simsnqta]

That white van though was burning oil.

[@Blasterxp]

Still lots of people tell me EV's work when it is cold. Bull sjiiiiiiiit!

[@migueljardim8177]

They do.

[@ALCLCFVIS]

did it not work? Specially in the morning when one times the AC charge, to finish before leaving to work. Beats any cold start on my ICE....and it's not even cold here (~3ºC)

[@Blasterxp]

My model 3 works great!

[@Zedus-rl9hp]

Electric vehicles work great in the cold, especially if you can charge them at home and/or at work. Never had so much comfort with a combustion engine.

[@leiflillandt1488]

What experience do you have from temperatures close to -30°C? The question is not if the engine starts or not, the question is what breaks in your specific car model. How have you maintained the crank compartment ventilation? If not properly your engine will make an immediate stop, and you will find engine oil all over the engine bay... Then you just need to think of the amount of money in your bank account!

[@andrisjekabsons]

EV in long trip like dod see tree (charger) and make pi (charging). Combustion cars on 1000 km maximum 1 stop and reach end.

[@matthewprather7386]

The visible exhaust is mostly water vapor.

[@NichlasF]

7:42 easy to say that electric car are the future. Can’t even charge when it’s a bit cold. Hahah.

[@adrienlevert6305]

Merci pour cette cold vidéo :-)

[@Twin.motors]

Looks like the highland isn't our saviour 😢 I had very high hopes

[@bradallen1832]

It is incrementally better than prior vehicles in that line in several factors (noise reduction, cabin insulation, good heat flow management, improved mapping and preheating planning already done several years ago and still working well), and the battery is at least competent. I don't doubt your statement at all, but I'm just curious what it's missing in your case.

[@ziggyyo]

@@bradallen1832 Do you mean the battery is competitive? I think Tesla‘s sophisticated *thermal management* with the *octovalve* is still an advantage in comparison to all major competitors.

[@Egotistica]

Can you do 130 km/h range test with battery from 100 % to 1 %?

[@leiflillandt1488]

He has to find a road where it's allowed. It doesn't make much sense, I think the consumption is at least 50 % higher than at 90 km/h. Maybe it's more depending on how "boxy" the shape of the car is. EVs are different from ICE cars, the faster you drive the longer you spend at charging stations when driving long distances, at least with today's EVs.

[@bjornnyland]

No, I already have a 120 km/h range test.

[@Seikkailusankar1]

Does Tesla model 3 and model Y heat pumps fail in norway???

[@kenion2166]

why would they?

[@Seikkailusankar1]

In finland they fail at these low temperatures all the time. My model Y heatpump failed third time and now there is fourth heatpump. Really big problem. In tesla owners finland facebook groups there are alot people whose car have broken heatpump. At best 4 case at one hour.

[@kenion2166]

@@Seikkailusankar1 strange we got 2 model 3 and one modelY in the fleet and had never a broken heat pump

[@Seikkailusankar1]

​@@kenion2166 My model Y have fourth heatpump.

[@Seikkailusankar1]

@@kenion2166 Here in finland we have model Y owners whose heatpump have broke and they have had Model Y loaner whics heat pump broke like in 2days.

[@rui569]

Proper cold!

[@iftodeconstantin5439]

Good morning guys.Please help me with an answer. All the model Y for Europe are produced în Germany?The battery for model Y SR îs which type and producer?

[@iftodeconstantin5439]

Nobody here?

[@tallakflakke9236]

German produced has BYD lfp battery, and Chinese has catl lfp batteries.

[@Jjengering]

Looks like ionity was a big mistake and perhaps charging to 60 was a little too much. Thanks for going through this for us Bjorn. Looking at the graph, it was the fastest car on the 1000km challenge at that temperature, so still quite impressive.

[@snip3d]

Tritium is leaving Australia, a Brisbane winter is 12 degrees C at 'lowest'

[@moestrei]

Manufacturing is closing (done in the US now) but R&D still done in Brissie

[@wr2382]

Don't exaggerate. The average minimum temperature in Brisbane for July is 10.4C. So the minimum temperatures in Brisbane definitely fall below 12C. The coldest I can remember is 2C back in the mid-1990s, but the temperature rarely falls below 5C. I live in the tropics now and the temperature still occasionally falls below 12C in mid-winter.

[@snip3d]

@@wr2382 i just asked google. Close enough. No where near -35c rofl

[@JanSevera]

Bjorn, I love you, but sometimes your claims are not based on facts. That smoke is just water vapors, which are completly normal because of cold weather. And it's blue, because you are shining on it with LED lights. Don't tell me this was a joke.

[@bjornnyland]

I know. But it doesn't change the fact that fossil cars smell way more when it's cold outside vs in the summer.

[@Watt_Ihr_Volt]

Curious to see what it achives in summer then.

[@ProXcaliber]

Same, I'm very curious to see how it will perform in the summer, and if there are also software updates that will improve the efficiency further. It wouldn't be the first time we see Tesla put out an update to improve efficiency or performance.

[@DanubeRS]

Winter in Brisbane (where Tritium was) is usually a nice sunny 20c during the day, and 8-10c at night. Lets not talk about summer...

[@fddevnull]

Its the Grid foult, no charger. Power limit or smth.

[@nicoleibundgut534]

Can someone explain to me why the energy consumption is so much higher in the cold? I mean it's clear you need to heat the cabin and at first also the battery. But after 1-3 Hours of driving everything is warm and even the battery is at moderate temps. So why is there still more consumption? i can't wrap my head around that.

[@WendHome]

The cabin and the battery have to stay at the right temp and result is a higher consumption even after longer runs. Also the air resistance is quit higher at lower temperatures.

[@acousticrecordingservice6991]

It is easier to grasp if you realise summer consumption of a M3 is comparable to 1.5L/100 km. 50% increase means the car needs an extra 0.75 L. Now repeat this with a big sedan that consumes 6-7 L in summer. It will use more extra fuel (at least 1L) in winter, but the percentage is of course lower.

[@nicoleibundgut534]

@@WendHome holding the cabin on temperature needs not more then 2kw which is at most 10% of the total consumption. I guess its just battery heating after all.

[@lucistnik]

at highway speeds, just from denser colder air, air drag will double going from +20C to -10C

[@lolish3k]

Time to retest nio with more battery stations around and faster swaping now days ;)

[@vonescher6887]

15:30 nein, nein, nein, nein! 😂

[@ronald4life1]

225kw at the Level 3 Super charger is very impressive. They did a good job on the Model 3's charging systems.