Tesla Model 3 real-world range test: will we make it? | Wheels Oz

[@thomasjacques5286]

New Model Y owner here, wife and I need BIO breaks well before the battery needs a charge. So essentially every time we see a SuperCharger along our route one of us has to stop, so a 10 to 15-minute BIO break/charging sessions eliminate ANY range anxiety issues and we are more comfortable on our long road trips and if we don't need to stop we skip that stop and press on to the next SuperCharger.

[@DeeKay1911]

New model 3 owner here. Have the exact same experience here. Even though we have a SR+ it wasn’t the car and charging that slowed us down at all on a Easter road trip ✌🏼

[@Reddylion]

@@DeeKay1911 nice

[@mspalmboy]

If you, or anyone else, is American - can you please tell me the cost that Tesla charge in America. In Australia Superchargers cost AU$0.52/kwh.

[@lindsaybrown7639]

​@@DeeKay1911 How far is it roughly between chargers that you stop, as I live in Melbourne and find that Ballarat is pass limit of a return drive, also Torquay on the coast is past return trip to home. I live in Sunbury area so north west area of Melbourne. Find that my average range is around 270klm before needing to charge, way lower then the listed range of 440klm. Was thinking it woudl have been around 340klm+ range. was wanting to drive to Adelaide but can see issues with the range.

[@RootBeerGMT]

These continues to impress. And to improve. Once the 25k car comes to market, it's game over.

[@caw1337]

Will be a while, pretty sure the battery alone costs that much.

[@AsbjrnBroe]

@@caw1337 no

[@koraksengupta8689]

But when will Tesla release a $25K car? Tesla makes as much profit on all their cars as Lamborghini, or Aston Martin. Even Elon himself stated that it would be a long time before we would see a Tesla of that price. Which means only one thing: $$$$$$$ for a decade or two to come.

[@AsbjrnBroe]

@@koraksengupta8689 later this year. Limited in Japan or china, Can’t remember tbh.

[@AntonHandel-bw7vv]

I have run a Tesla Model 3 down to -3%, and it did not miss a beat, it was running perfectly, plenty of power, no issues.

[@raymonddsouza8948]

That's the thing, this test ended like running an ICE car down until the low fuel light comes on, then giving up. We all know there is some buffer there, would have been nice to know what that buffer is. From your experience, what distance would that extra 3% below 0 equate to?

[@kevinsamuel3930]

Tesla is coming to India this year and I'm excited. Given that the cars would cost more than double due to the taxes and the lack of any supercharger in the country (we do have a few 50Kw chargers), do you think it makes sense to buy one here?

[@santillbrezon2161]

I was reading that a company in England sell a portable battery charger that can be carried in the boot of a vehicle which can put 60 kilometers of charge back into a vehicle, so one of these devices would be handy to carry around in an electric vehicle. Extra piece of mind. Its good to drive a cleaner vehicle but i mainly would want a good vehicle that is cheap to drive. Tesla seems to be a good vehicle for this.

[@manicdee983]

G'day, I've had a Model 3 since about the time this video was produced. I do not miss having a HUD because I have the car in cruise control most of the time and the on-board maps are pretty good at knowing what the speed limits are. I'll occasionally glance at the speedo to make sure the car's doing the right thing, and I've yet to see a satnav system which gets the number of lanes right in the situations I need them to, so I have not found the HUD-based directions any more useful than the voice directions of the Tesla navigation (and when you find a satnav that can correctly describe exits as exits and not "keep left", and diverging lanes as "keep left" rather than "take the exit" please let me know).

[@philipkoenig9197]

Just discovered this video - great job very informative thanks. Greetings from USA 🇺🇸

[@arribus30]

Range is not an issue in a Tesla. It’s like the only thing die hard ICE owners hang onto. Essentially you have to drive for 5 hours at 60 mph to get to its limit. If you don’t stop for 5 hours you seriously need to drink more water and move your body. With superchargers especially V3 it takes about 40 mins now from 10% to 80% battery. Which with toilet breaks etc is no time at all - and it is so cheap!

[@marks42]

Great review and I agree with nearly everything… except the Tesla claim 667km range. It’s the government ADR test that claims 667km. Tesla on their website only claim 567km (WLTP) and even this is a Standards-derived figure. Real world tests like yours gives a much better idea of what to expect, plus the car will estimate a far more realistic figure. 460km is a long way and with a 0-50% charge in 20min or so while having a visit and starting to drink that coffee, electric transport is truly here. Please keep these high-standard, real reviews going,

[@influentialnobody8960]

they dropped it now, Wltp was at 612km 10 days ago and last week they dropped it further to 602km.

[@stuartdeacon1652]

Tesla never states that this car will get more 568km. I don’t know where you get this over 657 from?

[@KevinSan88]

Do you guys think that it might have gotten more range in the city, because of the greater re-gen from the stopping and starting? I’m not suggesting you go and test this :-)

[@--Nath--]

It absolutely would have - EVs are the opposite of petrol cars for that.. petrol cars suck for city driving, EVs excel at it.

[@scottnewman3126]

@@--Nath-- spot on as Nathan said. Ideally you want speeds between 60-80km/h without heavy acceleration and a few long downhills for plenty of regen! Constant ~100km/h isn't a happy place for EVs but that was the point of the test!

[@kv3513]

Why you are stressing out so much with 5%. The buffer after 0% was atleast 20km

[@SniperSnake50BMG]

That's ok when the battery is new or balanced in older cars. I'd not the 0% is about just a couple of kilometers left before the car throws the shutting down notification

[@timfreeman2603]

It’s worth noting the difference between WLTP & EPA. Maybe even NEDC based on when this was filmed?

[@silaslongshot941]

Yes, good thing it can tell you where the nearest charging station is. Don't think the local auto club can bring out a can of juice if you ran out on the side of the road. You would have to be towed to the closest charging station, which would cost a buck or two.

[@phoozle]

I'd imagine in the future road side assistance will have service vehicles specifically designed to charge up another vehicle - just to give the stranded vehicle enough juice to get to a station.

[@generalvoltage1821]

@@phoozle There are now charge packs on some RACQ, NRMA etc call out vehicles.

[@VitaliysUnboxing]

If you just had the aero wheels you would have made it

[@DeeKay1911]

Great aerial shorts from google in the intro - how did you make those? Thinking about a short road trip video with my Model 3 of an upcoming holiday

[@caw1337]

Something to note, if you're optimizing the battery life of your vehicle you should be between 20-80% charge. That's only 60% of the 465kms achieved here which is 280kms. That would be even less with the SR+, possibly under 250?

[@MrDingaling007]

The SR+ with LFP battery sounds more enticing to me with the 100% usable capacity without hurting degradation.

[@caw1337]

@@MrDingaling007 I've heard about the difference in the batteries for the new SR+ but can't find any mention of different battery types on their site. Not sure if we get the LFP batteries in the aus.

[@MrDingaling007]

@@caw1337 I've been told Australia gets LFP MIC for the standards Range +. I guess we need someone to confirm with the battery screen if it gives a warning about charging above 90% (NCA battery) or not.

[@influentialnobody8960]

I did order a LR and tesla confirmed it's LFP and likes to be 100% charged

[@Tuck_Frump]

It does not need hud. You get use to the display. Everything is on the screen.

[@yggdrasil9039]

Great car, but no HUD is an issue and it's one thing that Tesla seem stubborn about. I think the reason being that ultimately these cars will drive themselves, but in the meantime, it sure would be useful.

[@DanubeRS]

Without going down the political path, I think we here in AU are a bit more tied to ours due to the enforcement we are subject to in relation to speed. Just a theory, but im sure there are plenty of solutions (OBD2 hud, phone mount etc) to get us out of the sticks with this one if we want.

[@michaldepes2102]

What was your avg speed?

[@nameuc]

so..what is range? i try and try get it but all i get is alot took anyhting else blaa. so, plz, what is total range that tesla model 3? its should also test like this showing clear end of video,tx

[@grizzlycountry5539]

Is $70 000 lab price or a real world price ?

[@pace_tracker]

What was the temp outside on your ride?

[@The86Pilot]

Interesting! However you don't give a crucial information that would have been very interesting to know. Ho many KWh your car depleted from 100% to 0%? Is it 81, 75 or even less? Thank you

[@AMJB100000000]

How much electricity did it cost to charge it back up???

[@vn9528]

EV notice - Range anxiety can lead to health issues like increase of heart rate, blood pressure and adds more bio breaks than necessary 😉

[@ldmcnutt]

I would still call this a fanboy video. 450 km range at 80 kph? A Prius can do 560 km at 130 kph on a 38 liter fill up.

[@nicka2256]

Went from a BMW with heads up display, and I’m so happy not to have on in my model 3 because I can wear polarized sunglasses and it doesn’t matter.

[@DenjiW]

There doesn't seem to have been much regen-braking in this scenario, though. I wouldn't call it "real world range test" if you're not stopping at red lights every now and then.

[@Rollaroundtap]

Hatch back? Doesn’t it keep to speed limits? Why would you need HUD?

[@Nicholas.T]

You need HUD because the speedometer is in the peripheral field of view. AND, this is annoying, Tesla is constantly reducing the font size of the speedometer, so that it harder to see. They just did this with the last major UI revision in December!!!!

@@Nicholas.T it’s annoying for 1 week. Then everything else I annoying, incl HUD

[@Karl-Benny]

what did it cost to charge

[@waimak7507]

1. Cruise control failed to work 2. Auto regenerative brake failed to work 3. All cameras failed to work , including reverse camera, showing all black 4. Sentry mode failed to work 5. Obviously Autopilot failed to work as well Some simple things such as Cruise control fails to work, it's just ridiculous on the quality of this car , it is very low quality. It won't even alert me if a car is too close to the car on another lane .... it's insane! Also, took the car to service in the morning till 5pm , I still haven't got it back, I never expect this to happen when I buy a brand new car, it's the worst experience ever in my life! Nightmare!! I would give it 0 star and minus!!! So many things just fails on a "Brand new car" After my serious complaints and hounding on the phones, ....finally the service manager there named Nick has managed to turn the table around and I was satisfied at the end. I appreciate his actions on top of it, the attitude and the way he made me satisfy and understood my initial frustration of this car failing. Tesla should thank Nick for this or other wise I wouldnt want a Tesla anymore. Since Nick has turned it around, I have more confidence with it now. 19th May 2022 review: Well I was going to give it a 1 star but since I got my car back now on the Second fault which I loose full power steering, and also I'm very not happy WITH Karl the service manager not compensating me which I told him I had to spend $30 out of pocket on Ubers , he promised to call me back with something but he never calls back, no call backs with updates when I requested, rude !!! During the service , there was heaps lack of communications , not direct call to the service centre and your customer team knows nothing no updates on my car until the last minute , the fault of the car was not descriptive, Karl told me something hit the car to cause this but how fragile is that ??? My old car never have this problem besides I just need regular service , this will be on your google review , youtube review and fair trading as well!! But overall, I don't think Tesla gives a shit of what it's customer feedbacks are - will be my first and last car for sure

[@jpscharged]

Your experience is not everyones experience. Why are you oil boys so worried about teslas if they are as bad as you describe? If they were as bad as you say you’d think job security would be pretty safe with ICE manufacturers but unfortunately teslas are no less than a shitty domestic as far as build quality and they are a threat to ICE cars bottom dollar with their efficiency. Lol

[@mspalmboy]

Agreed - Teslas need a heads up display. Plus, the Chinese made Model 3 SR+ now selling in Australia needs a big price cut, since it's thousands of $$$ cheaper to build the car in China than the US made cars.

[@jestronixhanderson9898]

Everything’s slaved off to China now, shame as the difference in wages doesn’t go to the consumer or the worker, Tesla has no competition that close to make them do so.

[@Karl-Benny]

So all the fords made in Mexico you get cheaper cause Mexican labour cost is cheaper than China

[@scotthoward5114]

Good video. Good information. Great to know for potential EV buyers.

[@rogermouton2273]

I find it strange that anyone thinks range with the current Teslas would be an issue. 450 real world km on a charge? How many people want to drive that far at a stretch, with any degree of regularity anyway? And if you can charge at home, it's better than an ICE car, inasmuch as if you can get enough charge overnight for your needs, you don't even need to go to recharging stations. Plus the fact that the fuel cost is a fraction of that of petrol.

[@--Nath--]

Agree. Driving 6 hours worth in a day? 3 hours is bad enough.. and this easily covers that. A stop at pretty much anywhere in there (1.5 or 2 hours in) and fast charging would mean it is a complete non issue. This was like knowing your petrol car has a tank that gets you 400km and then planning a 200km round trip but planning on doing a bunch of it twice over to film. If you were going to do that at least take another car to avoid screwing up the distance the test was supposed to be about.

[@rm1626]

Range anxiety is way overblown and irrational...how often does anyone drive more than 250 miles at a stretch!? And even if it is somewhat frequently super chargers are everywhere these days. Its frustrating that such an emotional and illogical concern prevents people from buying EVs.

[@rogermouton2273]

@@rm1626 Totally agree. It's just classic resistance to change. I see it everywhere: people inventing reasons (without logic or evidence) about why ICE cars are better and EVs won't succeed. The same people that said the 'horseless carriage' would never catch on.

[@rm1626]

@@rogermouton2273 exactly!...resistance to change...theres a good video by 'engineering explained' which tries to come at it from the opposite way - imagine we have been driving EVs for 100 years and all of a sudden a new ICE comes out, what would we think?...almost everyone would laugh at the new ICE because it is inferior in almost every way.

[@Jaxamuss]

I think there's a lot of people who just resist change. But I know in my situation I really want to go EV, but I live in the US and have a commute of about 100mi/161km every day save for the weekends and I live in an apartment with no charging. Given that you're supposed to only charge between 20% - 60%, I'd have to basically go to a supercharger everyday or every other day just to make my commute. So, in my situation its more like I just need my stupid property owner to install charging haha. Which I guess in the end is maybe them resisting change, so it came full circle haha.

[@eulersheep9487]

Do you need to pay for the electricity to use those charging stations?

[@buckd1ch]

Yep

[@hopebear06]

Which comes from burning coal. But we don't mention that because it ruins our virtue signalling to the world.

[@zueslong4337]

@@hopebear06 At least it's not a double whammy

[@Karl-Benny]

@@hopebear06 Not all anymore and will reduce as we go and much Quicker if we get rid of Coal loving Liberals

[@SuperWhiteSuit]

I wouldn't call this a real world test as we don't stop to take beauty clips, a real range test would be get on the Hume hwy and drive as far as possible on cruise control or on the flip side, drive around a city or town all day with lights, round abouts and actual traffic. still a good video but not really a real world example

[@JohnSmith-fp1gx]

Real world test, and 2:03 a truck is overtaking you. Yup, real for a 90 yr old driving a Nissan Micra.

[@JackMcSomeone]

1:40 I thought you said something else the first time. Had to do a double take

[@hopebear06]

Touching mobile phone while driving... 4 licence points there.🤔

[@korlumchukhu5483]

Why doesn't ev vehicles make a replaceable battery like torch lights

[@Jay-uh1dx]

If petrol car goes 17km / litre, If $1.35/litre then 20k km cost $1600, In Victoria pay $500 for electric vehicle road user charge + cost of charging. you save may be $500 net for 20k km. In 10 yrs we may save $5k. Not worth it as they are heavily expensive to buy approx $40 more then a $40k petrol car.

[@EastWood2004]

Wrong assumption was made here. A typical fuel consumption is 9km/l in city for the Model 3 size. Few cost is $1.45/L on these days. We don’t pay the tax other than VIC. The maintenance is much cheaper ( no engine , transmission oil and filtre) and the brake lasts much longer.

[@elduderino7767]

20,000km @ 150w/km = 3,000 KWh home charging @ 8c KWh via controlled load circuit = $240 LFP batteries should be good for 1 million kms the ICE car will be dead by 300k kms, either because it wont start or because it's too expensive to mechanically repair - those maintenance costs on a tesla are almost non-existent, instead of pulling apart the engine every 80k kms for a new timing belt (~$3k) you'll probably just have to change your brake pads at 300k when you are selling your ICE to the wreckers the tesla might need an air con re-gassing btw the model 3 goes for 60k, yeah it's costs quite a bit up front but if you take into account the fuel and maintenance costs you'll be making money ahead of your 40k ICE car by the time you do your first 100k kms

[@ianlam1445]

We’ll fuel costs are at $2.4 now

[@emilystockhall8291]

Real world test - why going back and forth for photography and videography then? Not very thought out. Also you said at the start you were going to squeeze every bit out of the range of 657km, but at the end you said you weren’t going to make it back to Tesla but the video wasn’t about squeezing every last bit - 444km round trip is far from every last bit and it still couldn’t make it. They seem like a very unreliable car that limits you to a very small range of travel. No thank you.

[@basteqpowerslave]

tesla says 580km of range not over 650 like you mention

[@mark123655]

All depends on the test. For the 3LR AU (NEDC test) 657km UK (WLTP test) 360mi - 580km US (EPA test) 353mi - 568km Note AU and UK currently Shanghai made and use LG rather than Panasonic batteries You can confirm this by using Incognito mode and logging into the Tesla website in different countries

[@bensslightnature]

@@mark123655 wow WTF?!

[@KiwiShoot]

Wonder if it would've made it back no problems because normal people don't drive back and forth to get video shots :-)

[@Reddylion]

Nice

[@vnitto]

465 km real world range

[@--Nath--]

If your real world is stopping every few km to drop someone off to film, u turning, accelerating back up and then rinsing and repeating dozens of times :)

[@lindsaybrown7639]

The Tesla SR+ has a very short range woudl be lucky to get to Wilsons Prom, beware as the SR+ is only good for around the city and very short trips. Have attempted long trips, Melbourne to Torquay and had to Charge at Geelong to get home to Melbourne. Another was Ballarat left Melbourne 96% arrived Ballarat 37% had to charge to return home, Very poor distance klm. Both trips would normally be around 250klm to 300klm round trip.

[@elduderino7767]

do you have a made in china 2021 model and was this in winter? the LFP batteries perform really poorly in the cold, tesla released some software updates to maintain battery temp which largely addressed the cold performance range on these models

[@lindsaybrown7639]

@@elduderino7767 It is a Model 3 SR+ with LFP and we have had it 2 months. When did they release the Software Update as I am not seeing any difference at the moment.

[@elduderino7767]

@@lindsaybrown7639 it's been out for months, just make sure you've got the latest version Bjørn (youtube) is easily getting 400+, if you are still having problems it could be your driving style car seems most efficient at around 90km/hr, at 120km/h you could lose as much as 25% range, wind, elevation, etc can all play significant roles

[@lindsaybrown7639]

@@elduderino7767 I am using AP similar to Bjorn, also trying to get as much range as possible as need it for long trips. Have done trip from Home Melbourne to Torquay which according to the Navigation and ABRP was possible as a around trip, as it is around 250klm round trip. We had to charge at Geelong as we had 110klm to home and only had enough for 90klm in charge. I have lots of data from Teslamate and pics to show the poor range, even Tesla agree 220wh/km is high but that is all they are saying.

[@elduderino7767]

@@lindsaybrown7639 yep 220w/km seems much higher than usual i take it you are sticking to 90km/hr and there isn't any crazy wind or anything are you running aero wheels/caps? would be great if you could log the data in a video, not seeing much range reports for here in australia with out weather heating up hopefully your range jumps significantly

[@ToddHendry]

It’s not a hatchback.

[@kv3513]

Facts are not on point in this video. Only performance has a 82kwh battery, longrange is just the same as the old one.

[@Kosmase]

Wow - what a pointless "Real World" (not) video. You could have just spent 15min topping up during your 400km drive But then that doesn't play up on your range anxiety narrative ... so sad what journalism has become in 2021.

[@vnitto]

You should do that in your Tesla video... oh wait

[@hopebear06]

Some whinging little girls get to play on their parents computers too.

[@kv3513]

Yes, youre so right. Cant imagine that this guy is a car journalist.

[@noelyboy6969]

Squaky bum time

[@colingenge9999]

Oz totally missed the point. Please do some research to provide useful information before wasting time on a video which doesn’t show much. First 657 km range is an NEDC number that is totally useless. EPA range is 568 km which is actually achievable. 1. Fully charged my M3 shows 540km range. They don’t even pretend you’ll get 657 km . Then that 540 Km translates into about 480 km range if you drive carefully. 2. 131 Wh/km yields 564 km range if you count 72 kWh of battery actually available in the 82 kWh battery. even if you use 100% and destroy your battery you’ll only get 616 km range so this sticker is not even consistent with itself. 3. You can reasonably get down to 0,150 km/Wh which will give you 493 km which is all you can hope for. 4. Tesla’s computer knows exactly how much power you’ll use on your trip which is why they can estimate % battery within 1%. They KNOW you’ll never get 657 km unless according to NEDC you drive at 37 k/h on a flat smooth surface, no wind, everything turned off, no acceleration and no braking. 5. 657 KM range is a disgusting lie and Tesla knows it. They vastly undermine their credibility by using this number in Australia and NZ. 6. Owners should start a class action because of deceptive trade practices. Even more annoying than being flat out deceived, Tesla charges NZ$92,900 for a Long range vs Cdn$64,990 = NZ$73,523 + $2000 shipping meaning we are paying $18,000 extra. What are we getting extra for this $18,000 or is that why Tesla feels obliged to lie to us about range. ?

[@excesshottest]

what is the range of a fully charged M3 on highway with speed of 130 or how much is the limit in your country?

[@kv3513]

What are you talking, that car doenst need a hud. It is subjective.

[@godspeed9638]

55 mins remaining...No thanks

[@joeee60]

Agree if you’re doing long trip daily. For day to day it’s awesome as you’re charging at home.

[@dannyabe6452]

Range is still an issue with all EV's

[@--Nath--]

Just like it is with a petrol car. That's why you fill up regularly to avoid the problem. If you know your petrol car has X km range and you plan to do that distance but stopping and going back to film constantly.. then you'd have the same outcome as this.

[@colingenge9999]

Is your petrol car full every time you get into it? NO! My BEV is. You spend an hour a month filling up in a smelly gas station. I spend 45 seconds plugging in on my way out the garage. ICE peaked in 2018 and the downhill slide will continue until that ancient archaic technology is off the roads for good. Fossil Fuel companies have corrupted every government on earth so good riddance.

[@willemvandoesselare7959]

My condolences with your piece of misery .

[@rockygoodfellow77]

Well, if I had even the slightest inkling to buy an EV, I don't now. I have had no problems matching and bettering the manufacturers fuel economy claim on my ICE vehicle. My VFII SSV Redline manual had 14.5 lph city/hwy average. On the hwy I get @ 9.8lph and around town its 11.5lph. I doubt that Tesla will ever get anywhere near 600+ km to a charge. Who wants to sit around for an hour waiting for the car to charge? What if those chargers were already being used? Where do those chargers get their power? From coal/gas? If so, then what's the point, given the massive amount of natural resources and energy that was required to manufacture and deliver that car?

[@rogermouton2273]

You don't know much. Lifetime CO2 emissions of EVs are much lower than ICE cars, even when the power is generated from coal. Google it. Current Model S LR+ rated at just under 650km range. Even if it's not real world achievable, even a casual observer would know that the range of Teslas is gradually improving all the time.

[@rockygoodfellow77]

@@rogermouton2273 lol, I don't know much...but you use Google as a source? How about all the CO2 produced during the mining of resources, manufacturing of steel, copper, lithium, plastic, aluminium, glass, silicon etc, and transportation of that vehicle half way around the world, before it even gets sold? What are they going to do with those batteries when they die in several years? You do realise that CO2 is not a pollutant? All life on earth depends on that 0.04% of CO2 the atmosphere. Perhaps you should be more concerned about all the actual pollution and destruction caused by the mining and manufacturing of these short lifespan cars before getting all excited about the most vital gas on our planet.

[@--Nath--]

This drive wasn't a normal driving style: they stopped and reversed essentially taking video footage there and back. And for city driving: EVs are ideal, highway driving they are not as efficient. Versus petrol cars which the opposite is true. Most trips in cars are short, and the recommendation from tesla is to plug in overnight at home also. So that means you may never have to fill up except on the rare occasions that you need to go on a road trip - at which point you use the route planner to know when and where to stop and top up for 15 minutes or so. You do not need to fill to 100%, you get maximum charge rate from when it is down low and up to 70% or so.. that's where the fast chargers come in. So stopping for a stretch of legs and toilet break means you get enough topped up to continue.

[@JoshTheFrosch07]

@@rockygoodfellow77 thing is tesla offers multiple vehicles that can achieve over 600km 😂

[@changeofseason8054]

funny how nobody adds the cost of manufacturing every piece of equipment that is required to get our oil out of the ground. What is the real cost to manufacture the oil rigs, ships and trucks we use to transport every step of the fuel supply chain.

[@avaliacarros7739]

Electric crap in RECALL due to flying glass ceilings.