Tesla Model S Plaid range test

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[@herrjonna2007]

I love that during the beginning (around 3 minutes in) you can see two workers from Bring having a "Snøballkrig" in the background haha

[@Daniel-lb8tu]

Haha you are right, it starts at 03:02

[@TougaardMedia]

Men never grow up, we grow older ;)

[@thorbjornstoltz125]

​@Geass Sogeki When you have a "war" and throwing snow ball's at each other 😁

[@nielsen6725]

Eagle eye :) 🦅

[@nallebrean]

​​@@nielsen6725 when you grow up in snow climate you get snow boll war anti reflexes... You don't miss the bending down motion... Allways be ready... 😂

[@brightmangroup1003]

the entertainment value in your videos is so underrated..

[@GoldenCroc]

Yeah hes a showman alright.

[@Arpedk]

Can't believe that a Tesla Model S with +1000 HP is more efficient in winter than my Tesla Model 3 from 2019.... Tesla has improved so much over the years.

[@amiddled]

More power doesn’t necessarily mean less efficiency with an electric motor. ICE motors are different due to higher output ICE motors having more pumping loses and inefficiencies where they are typically more complex.

[@Y4vuz12]

​@@amiddledbut still more motors mean less efficient, plaid has 3 motors

[@matthiask.798]

These are the standard wheels just without the aerocaps.

[@vasilebogdanbujor8308]

03:16 let the snow battle, begin!

[@seba02020]

It started about 2:40

[@vasilebogdanbujor8308]

​@@seba02020 nice, sharp eyes!

[@DouglasJMark]

Thanks Bjorn. Our late 2022 Fremont Model Y had no trouble driving into the sun a few days ago. But, we were on a city street and using FSD beta (and not Autopilot that Dirty Tesla says is 4 years old) FYI. Lotsa love from Toronto ❤❤❤

[@Frosticus453]

You don't have to like it, but that is crazy efficient given the power and the fact that it doesn't need gimmicks like "eco mode" to achieve it. The power is always instantly there, but so is the efficiency.

[@doktordok7517]

I like that you are not afraid to point out the shortcomings of the yolk weal and the lack of radar. Some thing shoud not be messed with. Great video!

[@robertvass4015]

Luckily there is an option for round wheels on the website and they said tesla will bring back the radar too

[@baron_xd4633]

The efficiancy is crazy. Hats off to Tesla

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

Your spelling of efficiency is crazy too. 🤪

[@jeanmiegoiste]

You definitely have pro audio analysis tricks. Nobody uses the same words, during a car test. Really good. If I had to order a car depending only one the audio system quality I’d rely on your tests.

[@Michael_Hanisch]

The wipers on my Model 3 are driving me crazy. Firstly they don't start and then they don't stop. In winter on wet roads, they wipe so long that the windscreen is completely smeared again. So turn off the autopilot and automatic windscreen wipers, spray, wait until the screen is dry. Then you can switch on the autopilot again.

[@user-ro7rl4rg6y]

You are very honest. Thank you very much for that

[@wolandbzh3913]

Can’t wait to see how the S LR will perform.

[@sjobbefin]

It is not wiping the windscreen because of aerodynamics. In our Model Y the water spray from other cars land on the bottom "two thirds" of the windscreen. The sensor is located at the top of the windscreen where it does not get as wet. Bad design. Phantom breaking occurs when there is a crossing road, either a bridge above you or underpassage as in this video. I guess it picks up the speedlimit of that crossing road.

[@bartwaggoner2000]

Let’s get AP updated - it is 4 years old!

[@fvdveen1]

The BMW i3 had similar behaviour in late head-up sun shine: the optical speed distance control switches off. We had it once when just buying the i3, which has quite high regenerative braking. At 100 km/h with a truck behind you, this is quite a shocking expericience!! Next to the missing radar, the missing round steering wheel, the absence stalks and of info on the left of the driver display makes me stay very happy with my current 2017-MY Model X. No need to upgrade, just keep updating...

[@LunnarisLP]

it's insane how much worse the EQS is in the winter, I mean we knew it had no heatpump, and got beaten by a model 3 lr in some winter testing before, but compared to the EQS the numbers are pretty bad, and this difference is likely even worse when we have negative temperatures.

[@Jeroenneman]

What do you mean? The EQS scores more than 100km more in range? 516 km at 120km/h.

[@Clearphish]

@@Jeroenneman Do the 2 cars have the same size battery? I thought I heard Bjorn say that the Plaid was 100 kWh and the EQS was 120 kWh

[@Hyrppa95]

@@TL1000S97 And the weird decision of not having the heat pump and front motor disconnect in the cars from the beginning. Not a dealbreaker by any means for me but i feel like Mercedes did the interiors extremely well, electric powertrain not as much.

[@lgtarasy-dl9lv]

Eqs has 21" when tested Plaid 19". Its difference in efficienty about 5% or more

[@ikemuc]

The rims are indeed the original 19“ rims, only with the aerocaps missing. I assume they were missing for many (all?) european deliveries. I‘ve got them (and the missing trunk cover after some weeks.

[@megapet777]

as a finnish person I know what it's like living in the grayscale xD

[@bigbaddms]

Thank you for pointing out to her problems and the advantages too. Great reviews

[@Dom21221]

All those problems around 10 minute mark you mentioned…good lord I like Tesla but for 150k that’s ridiculous for 2023

[@topgunm]

Bjørn, not incorrect, as it is stated in the manual (search for Plaid in the Model S manual): Insane or Plaid strives to keep the Battery within an optimal temperature range. In addition to heating the Battery, these settings also cool the battery when necessary (for example, while driving at high speeds, during rapid acceleration, driving for long periods, etc.). What that actually means in terms of temps, is not stated.

[@DG-uv3zw]

I4 m50 had 280wh/km in similar conditions!!! Insane difference

[@Beamer_i4_M50]

I am pretty sure if I drive like this in these conditions with my i4 M50 I am below 20 kwh. Yesterday at 13 degree I was at 19,x. Without any problem on the highway.

[@topgunm]

@@Beamer_i4_M50 This was on winter tires. Winter tires have a lot of rolling resistance vs summer, also 13 degrees, is twice the temp of this test, and it was wet.

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

@@topgunm Winter tires typically consume less than 1kWh/100km extra. And 13C isn't twice the temperature this test was done at. Twice would be roughly 270-280C.

[@topgunm]

@@adrianguggisberg3656 haha wtf. Twice: "double in degree or quantity." 11:02 it shows 6c. Twice that is 12c. Anyways, you can't compare winter tires, wet road and winter temps with what is the Oslo average temperature in May, on summer tires, and even then the i4 uses more. If I were to guess the S will do 150Wh per KM with those temps and summer tires.

[@NextGHaHaHa]

@@topgunm you should read the wiki article about temperature, the temp scale starts at -273.15 °C and not at 0°C, in this context you have to say it was 6°c warmer

[@UK-Cycling]

Another top video Bjorn. Thank you very much. Best regards, Martin

[@thorsev6960]

Try to get a Plaid with the 21 inch tires, according to Tesla the consumption increases by almost 15%.

[@nordic5490]

And the ride comfort is worse by 50%

[@anonym3017]

The motors put out 1020hp. They aren't 100% efficient so they consume more power than that.

[@TheTallRaver]

Great job as always! Best electric car reviews on KZbin!👍👍💪💪

[@aworker4623]

Hey Björn! What about the new seats? Are they comfortable after driving the car for 1000+ km? :)

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@vincesorrentino7871]

Auto Wipers need a big improvement

[@pmkgamingtv]

Well they have try over 10 year...and get worst

[@claytonjones006]

This is a joke, but on my plaid I keep the music list minimized. Every time I see your music list taking up the full left side of the screen a wince a bit. Great video as always.

[@anonymus3198]

7:59 Eins, Zwei Polizei 😂👍

[@johnhadlow9345]

Nice test Bjørn! Very interesting how efficient it can be. Unfortunately here on German autobahnen so far I can’t find the self control to go slow enough to test the long range 😂. Did you find heater on auto is loud and you have to override to quieten it? Software??

[@rempha]

Diameter of the non original wheels is smaller and this is why it messes up the reported speed and distance.

[@hardywoodaway9912]

the wheels look original to me (standard 19 without covers). But yes the tire size is different

[@nicolasfrankboehmer2240]

245/45-19 Front and Rear Winter are allowed as far as I know, no illegal driving ;-)

[@BjrnArildBakken]

Phantom breaking is bad around Brumunddal and Moelv around there.

[@christophemadeline9753]

Thank you Bjorn

[@johnnysmile01]

My fav model S is here man, love the color, the Power and the wheels too i mean it's the best. I think Tesla need to get the Renault/Citroen steering wheel volume and music settings type stick😎

[@Pus1]

Are those not the OEM 19" only its without the caps?

[@josemdbl4957]

Great video as always!! I was wondering if you are going to do one with data from Scan my Tesla showing how is the torque distribution in different scenarios between the 3 motors. Would be awesome!!

[@bjornnyland]

Once it works, yes.

[@davidkendall2272]

You should be able to beat the Plaid efficiency when you test the MSLR, which is lighter and incredibly efficient based on my experience. Can't wait to see your comparison.

[@mario_supermd6504]

Aren’t those the original rims without aero cover?

[@evertbunschoten2930]

I think the autopilot warnings with the sun and wet roads are not due to a lack of radar. A model 3 from 2018 (with radar) gets the same warnings. I guess it just has trouble seeing the lines on the road, something a radar will not be able to help with.

[@xFifaVideos4You]

they disabled radar for all cars with the tesla vision update (1year ago)

[@AllCarbone]

@@xFifaVideos4You radar does not see the lines on the road, so that it can not help in this situation. Radar can check distances in aproximately directions, but it is not able to drive without camera.

[@DeeKay1911]

@@xFifaVideos4You I had the same warnings over a year ago when the radar was active

[@nallebrean]

Maybe the car just need some Polaroid glasses?

[@capsytb]

The same on a 2018 AP2.5 TMS with radar, sun is a problem also for us humans but we hide it with sunglasses and sun visor

[@enricosacchetti8350]

Bjorn, trip card is back on main screen ;-) oh yes!

[@KennyKo39]

Drag strip mode warms up inverters and battery but not to the same 50 to 60c target as preconditioning

[@steenbronkegmail1]

10:48 My SR+ also slows down when the sun is directly in the face. But Tesla has only started it after they turned off the sensors on the car.

[@nfcknblvbl]

Auto wipers have been so bad, and it’s worse now that you can’t turn them off while in autopilot.

[@nallebrean]

But now you at least can set a minimum pace. Handy when driving in the grey...

[@Clearphish]

Apparently Auto Wipers is still in beta 😉

[@deanfielding4411]

Agree. Model X is even worse as the sensor is higher and misses the road spray that blocks the screen.

[@KK-up3pq]

Agree. Sometimes it’s just that where the camera is there is less Mist settling on the windshield than where the main field of view of the driver is. But that excuses only 10ish % of the bad auto wiping

[@Sloneoak]

With FSD single click on the right scroll wheel works with the turn signal. it automatically changes lanes for you.

[@nicoleibundgut534]

I am kind missing the power used like in the old model s. I see your point with the unused space.

[@mymadrugada]

Loved the Braindead reference Bjørn - I kick ass for the Lord!

[@chickensays]

Can't wait to see the new LR, Which is still more than bonkers fast enough. Will be very interested to see how efficient it is and range

[@fiftyoneindustries2]

They are the rims, it's the covers that have been taken off

[@SuperMakalex]

Hey Björn, i would like you to ask how much Volume you use for the Soundtest? Love your Videos, greetings from Austria... :)

[@bjornnyland]

About 6-8

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

Here in England you can spec the Plaid with a proper steering wheel.

[@Antroid1]

It’s not UK-specific…🤦🏻‍♂️

[@larsenpetter]

In Norway also. But I think, the blinker problem stays the same, because also the regular steering wheel has the same haptic buttons on the round steering wheel, just as on the yoke steering wheel.

[@anonym3017]

​@@larsenpetterthey aren't even haptic buttons. They are touch buttons with no feedback or movement whatsoever.

[@Danne89]

You can get Model S and X with a round steering wheel everywhere. It was added after first deliveries... And as Petter said. It doesn't solve the worst issue which is the missing indicator stalk.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

@@Antroid1 I thought we were special.

[@LjupceAnastasov]

At 3:16, snow balls shooting :D

[@myrace235]

Wheels are original Tempest without aerodynamic caps - same system as Model 3 18"

[@FuzTheCat]

What the heck is the guy in the green jacket doing?

[@raitsa5834]

Snowball throwing

[@GreenDriveIndia]

This 1000 hp beast is more efficient than my 130 bhp Nexon EV. While carrying the double weight. Tesla rocks.

[@jessonabike]

The Plaid Thai sure is a spicey dish!

[@VoxelLoop]

For the comments about radar removal, I think the slow downs for poor visibility should have been happening with radar too really. Tesla's implementation of radar didn't see stationary vehicles, and it's not possible for it to see road debris, pedestrians, etc. If vision is required anyway to drive, then I feel like the radar wasn't providing much.

[@MrWingman2009]

I like that song that begins w "are you listening". Can't seem to find. Please, what is the artist and name of that song?

[@lukabosnjak3829]

I just heard the sound system in the model y and its really good, with some eq to reduce bass and treable it should be on of the best in the industry (actually reminds me of Vifa speakers slightly) not even throwing in those toys from Naim and B&O...

[@eruveo]

The open wheels feel so unsophisticated without a peace of cheap plastic covering them haha but I’m serious

[@GoldenCroc]

Like the drivetrain and the laminated glass etc... Not sure about the rest. Seem to me they got quite overzealous with the cost cutting/gimmickness in many areas.

[@paescu_2k350]

Tesla just released the single stack FSD beta. So it also uses the new software on the highway now. This update will also come to standard autopilot. Old highway AP still uses 4 year old software

[@ora10053]

not in Europe, we are still on the old crap

[@kehletten]

Nice Bjørn. Btw I hope you soon will get the chance to test IONIQ 6 😁🙏🏼

[@hwanju94]

Yeah same here

[@byddf]

Me too. Hyundai exists in Thailand so it may enter Thailand's EV market.

[@TeddyAlFarra]

Quick question: One of my dream cars is the Tesla Model X Plaid that unfortunately only comes in 6 seat configuration, not 5. So, the question is: How can you sleep in it, knowing that you can only fold the 2 seats in the 3rd row, and not the ones in the middle row? I wish that they could make a Model X Plain with 5 seats only, so that we can sleep and camp in it.

[@williamarmstrong7199]

Putting narrow tyres on wider rims is a standard tuning trick. The stiffer sidewall of the streached tyres improves cornering by something like 15 mph 24KMh. Although the std way to do it is to stick to normal width tyres and just put wider rims on a car. Perhaps this was not possible?

[@GoldenCroc]

You dont want too wide tires in the snow (original size is pretty wide), this is likely why they put more narrow ones on. Secondly, I think you might have been sold too heavily on the benefits of streching tires...That way of doing it has many drawbacks, thats why they are not used on street cars from factory. For almost everyone who does it while street driving, its for the looks and nothing else. Also, saying they improve the cornering with 15mph is not really correct, it might improve it some, or it might make it worse. No way is 15mph anywhere close to an average improvment, or maybe even best case.

[@-047-]

So its 510 - 520 km range very nice

[@Me777Too]

But you compare 19" wheels with 21" on the EQS, no doubt that is better but let's mention that in the summary 😊. Btw thx for the excellent content you do!

[@bartwaggoner2000]

Great review, and I think a lot of the nit picks are due to Tesla trying out things in their flagship (and low volume) vehicle that they wouldn’t in the MY or M3. Some will stick around, but others wont (I predict the yoke wheel will fade away due to the increasing prevalence of roundabouts in the USA)

[@Robis-]

Bjorn, when are you planning to get for test Lucid Air?

[@ora10053]

Bjorn, in M3 autopilot stays full on when you put the blinker (which is kinda annoying actually). You are saying that in S it switches off lane keeping and just stays on ACC?

[@Pecky138]

I think the yoke "steering wheel" would make sense if you had a higher steering ratio. Then there would not be the problem of the mirror-inverted turn signal buttons.

[@Pecky138]

In germany, there are regulations on how a steering system or steering gear MUST be mechanically implemented.

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

But then nobody was able to drive it and such a steering ratio is not legal on public roads. For good reasons.

[@Pecky138]

@@adrianguggisberg3656 why are people unable to drive it? It is only more wheelangle and less steeringwheel turning. I think this can be learned.

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

@@Pecky138 Because this car can go faster than 50kph. I was driving a tank with such steering, but it's steering was hydraulic, ratio and weight were variable depending on speed, and it could only do 75kph. However, this couldn't be done in a car. Therefore weight would have to be extremely heavy at higher speed. Even so, the car would require a level of alertness and concentration that can't be asked of a driver outside professional racing. No, there's a much simpler solution fot this problem: steering column stalks and a round steering wheel.

[@Tanax13]

I fail to see how that would improve it? When you're driving in a roundabout, you usually drive slow - so you would need to turn the yoke more to turn that much. The blinker buttons would be in different positions in EVERY roundabout when you want to signal that you're exiting the roundabout (which is required by law) since every roundabout has different radius - it's not something you can "learn". There are already reviews from Europe, specifically Nordic countries, where the lack of blinker stalk is a huge problem. Maybe it works better in other countries / US.

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

6:22 I wonder what will your daughter say 18 years from now, if she stumbles on this video. 😛

[@rempha]

With HW4.0 there are signs Tesla will reintroduce RADAR, this time HD radar.

[@reynoldichi1090]

What the heck someone just fight in front of you. 😂🤣

[@DaRockCRX]

822kW max discharge is 1020Hp at the motor rotor shafts with 10% losses. it is NOT the actually power output of the motors. It is to be expected that it has more than 10% losses at full steam so actually 822kW max discharge is probably a little bit below 1000Hp on the motor shafts in reality.

[@ikemuc]

In my Model S Plaid, with one click activation of Autopilot the lane change assist works just normal without deactivating Autopilot. But it was annoying that I cannot activate ACC without autosteer then so I switch to two click activation of Autopilot again.

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

About the noise canceling - there were some issues with the rubber insulation on the back doors, is it alright here?

[@tboy911]

Those are the standard 19" wheels just missing the aero wheel covers.

[@robinholmes785]

New information about the insanely efficient Tesla Seni surrounds it's fantastic drivetrain and nearly 90% regen! I am very curious whether this new technology is making its way into new Tesla cars! This efficiency improvement will make a huge difference to the real-world range, particularly in hilly routes. Can you accurately test the regen and compare with other cars?

[@scotduckrow8524]

Question, when indicated speed does not match GPS, will service mode allow you to correct?

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

1:50 LOL, that said it all :-D

[@bobfrode]

tried the coasting in my Q4 when driving to Hafjell a few weeks ago with my son 😅

[@Zedus-rl9hp]

10:47 Level 2 cannot not drive faster than visual vision allows. Radar, lidar, etc. would therefore only be of limited help, because it must be ensured that the driver can see everything.

[@byddf]

Truly favorable electric car for me! Both very long range and fast charge, plus very fast acceleration when driver need. Only one problem for me is its high price.

[@celeron55]

Well if you only need those, you can get a Model 3 Performance. You only need the S if you want to pay for extra comfort.

[@traustitj]

I owned a Model S 2015 AP1. Now I own Model Y LR 2021. I think my Model S was far superiour in all AP releated things. Changing lanes. Summon into parking spaces, auto park. Vision during AP. I dislike the Model Y with these points. But that is nothing when it comes to the windshield wipers. The auto is batshit crazy all the time. The lane change warning is just insane like a latin teacher. You could turn this off in the model s and it was off forever, not in model y. It comes on every time you put AP cruise control on. Same with lane warning. Lane warning also comes on once you put the car into park. Annoying as hell. I used to do AP like 90% but now it les less than 10%. No way in hell I even consider buying FSD. I want my model y to be on pair with my model s from 7 years ago

[@christianurban]

Yes, I have problems with „poor visibility“ quite often with my Model 3 after they have deactivated radar. It’s so stupid…

[@FabioBriniOpto]

The original tire have a different size between front e rear?

[@cargeek4777]

And you didnt even have hubcaps on pretty impressive...

[@electriccarsworldnews1602]

The Tesla has round cells and therefor a much better battery temperature management and less losses at low temperatures moreover the motors are very efficent. Third much lower weight. We drive MS100D M3P i4M50 😉

[@gohumberto]

Incredible that, if I had the money, I could buy a car with Hypercar performance, Family car practicality, and have 400 miles of free range from my Solar panels in Summer. Maybe a BMW M5 gets close to the performance and Practicality but comes with terrible Servicing and running costs.

[@nicoleibundgut534]

Cell temp over 50 degrees? this sounds very concerning. According to the battery university after 45 degrees there is quite alot of battery degradation happening.

[@PanLukash]

I'm just wondering - is it legal in Norway to touch the phone during driving the car? In Denmark it's forbidden and fines for that are pretty painfull

[@Lazengogh]

Fun fact: this was the first car where i read the car text "Marcusbil" rather than "Marcusail" :-d

[@fisor]

Did Bjorn say the music is stored in USB stick? How can Tesla cars play music from USB stick? I cannot find a way for the media player to access the USB stick.

[@moestrei]

You put usb stick in slot, tap on the usb symbol and play the music. No magic involved here.

[@paescu_2k350]

Old radar is just a radar with like 2 measuring points and useless for Tesla vision. New radar is coming for HW4. Will be much higher resolution

[@DG-uv3zw]

And radar is the main reason for phantom braking. Its also bad in winter and rain... Yeah, maybe improved version but humans drive with vision so it seems like a step backwards for FSD. Roads are made for human vision not AP

[@Timo-qb1gf]

@@DG-uv3zw howcome the other OEMs manage with radar only solutions and yet have no phantom braking issues?

[@DG-uv3zw]

@@Timo-qb1gf other AP is a joke... Not even close to FSD.

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

@@DG-uv3zw You obviously never drive newish German cars, for example. Also if the new sensors are so great, they make all prior Teslas obsolete. Even though their owners payed big ££££ extra for FSD, which they'll never get.

[@DG-uv3zw]

@@adrianguggisberg3656 so on B roads in rain or snow AP works? Don't make me laugh. I owe E coupe 2020 and AP is a joke. I never use it. It works on well marked roads but it can disengage randomly. And it can swirl on uphills or merges... It's no where near FSD.

[@georgepelton5645]

Bjørn, Since you did not drive from 100% to near zero at 90 kph, how did you measure the battery capacity? Did you do it at 120 kph? I was really disappointed in the result of only 337 miles at 90 kph. I guess I will have to wait for a summer test with factory wheels and tires.

[@bjornnyland]

The test ended at Kløfta with 1 % left.

[@alexanderkenway]

Tesla untouched in efficiency

[@wgroentje1]

Grazy 😊😊car,woh tx Björn

[@kelvynbettridge]

SEXY buttons for indicators?