Tesla Model S vs Porsche Taycan - Here's the one I buy and why

Tesla Model S vs Porsche Taycan - Here's the one I buy and why
What if you're in the market for an extremely quick, 4-door electric car, which one should you get? In this video I'll let you know my choice between the 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid and the 2022 Porsche Taycan Turbo S.
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[@benjaminsmith2287]

It's weird for me to hear things like "can't justify the Porsche's price" based on performance and range. Porsche's are not priced due to just performance. They have a whole heritage of sophistication in their performance and Porsche has one of the most stout body structures in the industry. The fit and finish, the quality, the refinement, that's what. you pay for. That said, I really love this analysis and how thorough it is and the effort put into it. I just think while Tesla has great numbers, other cars are worth more due to higher refinement.

[@YusufGinnah]

Absolutely correct! 👍🏼 The value proposition and original design brief put forward by each of these brands is completely different to the other. If speed were the only measurement, $1 million Rolls Royces, wouldn't exist... There are much more cheaper, much faster cars and supercars available at a fraction of the RR... 😎👍🏼

[@cobrachannel100]

Porsche has heritage and history but Tesla has innovation and being the pioneer in this space. Porsche is one of the best ICE builders all time but Tesla made EVs the future, they came up with the concept of OTAs, FSD was thought out before the first vehicle rolled off - hardware equipped to take pictures and even upload them to be used by the AI/ML engine for developing software. Not to mention the supercharger network. No dealer approach, mobile service that comes to ones vehicle for some repairs, and more. A lot of people, including me, will reward Tesla always for that. Just like people have been drawn to Apple iPhone for example. People like an underdog story, newcomers, etc. Therefore, comparisons based on value, will definitely exist because I am not sure in peoples' eyes, Tesla is an underdog here and that Porsche's, whatever the glorified past, matters much comparing it against Tesla.

[@jml9550]

Cant agree more. I have gone to the Porsche dealer and check out the Taycan, build quality is way better than my co worker new Model S. Owning a Porsche has never been cheap and rightfully so. You can say a Rolex (I own 3 of them including a Daytona) is not worth its price compares to an Apple Watch, but that’s not the point. My point is that sometimes owning a luxury item is base on pure emotion, just like spending $400 on a dinner with my wife in Alexander’s.

[@a.banana]

The Plaid is a little under 400 miles of range not over 500

[@zakazanyphoenix3573]

@@passing_bye5991 that car doesnt exist yet that why its pre order was removed , batteries to break 500+ miles range wont exist untill 2023 or later

[@TRX25EX]

@@zakazanyphoenix3573 but Lucid Air done it, and yes Plaid+ is dead

[@zakazanyphoenix3573]

@@TRX25EX yea but that luxury box is 169k and already out of stock , plus its not damn race its marathon new tech battery mass production wont start to see effect till 2023-24 tops so its streamline production means cheaper products not the LUXURY I MAKE U PAY THE PRICE WHAT I WANT .

[@integra8502]

@@TRX25EX you can say that about Lucid when they produce 1 car....0 production car so far

[@TRX25EX]

@@integra8502 It's official they got EPA rating, which is a production tested car

[@jeffboardman959]

I used to have a P100D now I have a Tycan 4S, both are amazing cars period. The Tesla was faster but in the real world the Tycan is fast enough. Everything about the way the Tycan drives is better.

[@MrBasically810]

Good to know. You also have almost 100 years behind it so trust is a factor.

[@fatbroads1314]

hussein saab trust Porsches high price and endless options? Repair costs. I'll pass.

[@mattasinari8995]

I TOTALLY AGREE. YEARS OF RACING SHOWS WHO KNOWS ABOUT CARS WE "DRIVE"

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@MrBasically810 Why do you need to insult a car colleague baseless?

[@MrBasically810]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 what?

[@fiercedevil6955]

Wish it was the same for the new EQS. Concept was stunning, production model looked like a soap blob.

[@aarvin1]

Presenter: "we have never seen a concept car looking as close as the production version" Lexus LC500: "let me pretend I didn't hear that sh*t"

[@brettmciver432]

Rare occurrence that is

[@budja1501]

I’m usually not too big a fan of sedan proportions, but the taycan just does it for me. It looks sophisticated and advanced, and while it doesn’t have as much porsche-ness as some other models it still looks fantastic. Well done porsche

[@carlosandleon]

except for that froggy front end

[@devan271]

@@carlosandleon dude that front end is perfect

[@devan271]

@@passing_bye5991 I can tell you don’t know a lot about cars

[@thisnameistoolong9169]

@@passing_bye5991 what are you talking about?

[@FlightX101]

@@devan271 Its one of those cars you need to see on the road instead of videos. They look awesome at my local dealer

[@adink6957]

The taycan definitely does it better for me in the looks category, the Tesla looks rather bland

[@QKvox]

Yeah, the tesla looks like what id think for a car with nothing specific but the Taycan looks really unique compared to other sedans

[@cobrachannel100]

I call bs. Have u seen Taycan in real world? It is overrated and looks very ordinarily.

[@nygeriunprence]

The tesla is just so old. They've kept this car for near 10 years without a full redesign.

[@TheBonsaiZone]

I think we are at the dawn of electric vehicle design, a transitional stage between the gasoline and electric. I'm looking forward to the future of electric automotive styling!

[@callumlester1458]

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[@ANM149]

Cyber truck designs are the future :v

[@Atipical_]

Actual ranges: Plaid: 380ish Taycan (turbo): 280ish

[@TfGamess]

Still sad, for the price

[@brettmciver432]

Plus there's still the plaid plus to come as well (unless you believe tesla "cancelled" it) tesla will not let someone else hold the range crown for long, I'm looking at you lucid👀

[@lasse1122354]

tycan only uses 80% of the battery tho, so it will have higher range than the tesla when the cars get older

[@PassportGaming]

@@lasse1122354 No it won’t. Tesla range degrades at an average of 1% per year

[@lasse1122354]

@@PassportGaming tycan would still have 80% while tesla would have a degraded maximum, possibly more

[@bikingD]

Beyond the more modern styling of the Taycan which looks great vs the dated boring Tesla just based on quality alone would have to go with the Porsche. The Tesla just isn't up to over $100,000 fit finish and quality.

[@Tom-li9xq]

True AF

[@mrwn6284]

Buying electric cars rn that isn’t a Tesla is a horrible investment no matter how good the car is, you can end up stranded alot looking for working chargers but not finding much. taycan is a perfect electric car though. Looks great, top tier quality, fast, great range and it’s a porsche

[@xijinpingpong4426]

@@mrwn6284 That depends highly on were you live. I would say that in most of middle Europe, you won't buy a Tesla for the charging infrastructure. So this is maybe an American thing.

[@odisy64]

The taycan had a dated look before it even released, the model S looks way more modern, the build quality is also better in a plaid, you dont have to worry about the battery overheating and dying early on you.

[@odisy64]

@@mrwn6284 Porsche batteries are horrible, they have poor thermal management, even a model 3 can outlast it on a track.

[@nougatbitz]

Weird thing about the Taycan… it only looks interesting to me in white. Any of the dark colors make it look pretty ordinary.

[@youferrer]

I have one (in white) and I agree. White and silver. It's because that tear dop on the headlights disappears on darker colors. Then it looks more like a Panamerica refresh.

[@darkmist977]

It looks stunning in the dark green

[@Lifeisapartydresslikeit]

I have it in white and I 💯 agree with you

[@Sebe_r35]

I would take the Plaid

[@vandita3695]

You might need one update. The model S with 500+ mile range had actually been cancelled. The one they sell now has "just" 345 miles of range. Porsche states that their range is 205 miles, but Taycan owners have easily got about 300 miles of range (just in typical Porsche fashion, they seem to have understated the range as well)

[@Ven100]

Other channels like Shmee150 definitely not getting 300 miles on his.

[@Potatololable]

if you're gonna correct somone atleast be correct, the plaid has a range of 390 miles which is about 640km.

[@vandita3695]

@@Potatololable I was talking about the range when you get the performance wheels

[@Cab895]

You make waaay too many excuses for Tesla. Its not simplistic its lazy, The 2022 Tesla Model S uses the same body panels, tailights, etc from the original 2012 model. Its a joke.

[@cobrachannel100]

The only joke is your dumb smirk.

[@Ven100]

If you're going to hate, at least be factual. The body fenders have been widened. In, the only things you might be able to swap is the hatch lid, and exterior door panels (as you know the inside is 100% new). That's why owners who wanted the updated front fascia in 2016 needed hood, headlights and bumper to make the change (Unplugged came out with an aftermarket bumper that let owner keep their existing headlights). What you call lazy is simply genius. A car whose design came out in 2009 STILL looks brand new today. Definitely does not look dated.

[@Cab895]

@@Ven100 Only the rear fenders have been widened. Every other metal panel is exactly the same. Bumper/headlight refresh is the only difference, its a joke. Enjoy your 2012 looking car.

[@Porsche1995]

The Taycan looks like nothing I’ve ever seen on the road. Source: I live right next to a Porsche dealer

[@helloukw]

No Panamera vibes?

[@denisbruno22]

Hey Bembli, has any major car company contacted you yet to congratulate you on one of your design refresh of their brand models? Great content. Thanks.

[@mitulchaudhari5561]

Porsche is more like a drivers cars, the experience you get in a Porsche is way better than tesla, Porsche is a winner in terms of handling dynamics. We can't compare this two beauties.

[@jml9550]

I have test driven both and the Taycan S will run circle around the Model S. But the Taycan rear seats are really tight.

[@maxl7827]

Taycan is slower around the track though

[@midnightstar4065]

@@jml9550 Unless that circle is the Nürburgring of course ;)

[@radfree9370]

While I think the Porsche is still better at something than the tesla(Styling, Handling, Quality) It's just hard to spend 50k more for an objectively inferior car. If the Porsche had similar specs, I would definitely take it. But now, I would take the Tesla(Also charging infrastructure is a big one) MKBHD recently dropped a video on gas vs electric car road trips. Any non-tesla EVs aren't that great for long trips.

[@JoshTheFrosch07]

Tesla has gotten way better handling, so I’d say it’s at least equal on that front

[@a.banana]

If you put Model S Plaid and Taycan Nürburgring footage side by side it becomes clear Tesla has matched Porsche on the handling front. They are side by side through the corners, pretty crazy. Though, from reviews, I think Porsche still has a tighter, sportier feel, despite similar handling.

[@ericship8383]

The Porsche is also more reliable

[@a.banana]

@@ericship8383 More reliable, no. Initial quality is better though, so you will be less likely to see problems on delivery.

[@TRX25EX]

@@a.banana Porsche now one of best rated reliability brands in the world, Tesla not even top 20....... So what is "Not" about that

[@weirdsideeffect]

Im not into electric cars, however, I admit that a lot of them are pretty decent looking. The Taycan is what I would choose for sure. It looks better and the build quality is going to be MUCH better.

[@i.am.adrian]

As a Tesla owner and fan, I will happily admit that that Taycan is a very sexy car. I've only seen a couple in person, but it's got a real presence in it's stance and design, that the Model S, while attractive, just doesn't compare. I'd still probably go with the Model S, I'd have to do something about that steering yoke though. One thing watching this video, I'm starting to realize how alien those Taycan headlights are. I guess I'm just used to the more traditional Porsche headlights, those look very strange with their LED running light bars in the housing. I almost wonder what the Taycan would look like with more standard-looking headlights. They're kind of distracting to me now.

[@jml9550]

I have seen quite a few Taycans here in the SF Bay Area. Beautiful looking car, model s has nothing on it. Haven’t seen any Taycan GT though.

[@altairferoli]

I think the production front-end of the Taycan looks more appropriate for a sedan, the concept's front-end looks more like a Supercar front-end, it would fit more in a halo electric coupe from Porsche than in a Sport Sedan

[@upan3259]

Who wants a TESLA when you can have a Porsche.

[@kendavid891]

Tesla may be tic quicker,but since I was 12 had a poster of Porsche 1950s 356 to 959, it's historical legacy for me.see many Taycans in my town,it's quite stunning compared to tesla

[@lennoxbaumbach390]

Yeah, the Taycan has just so much more character and drama compared to the Tesla. In this regard it reminds me of some Italian car designs, which is pretty much the most praise I could give it. The Model S is really fine. It's essentially highly inoffensive and therefore ages quite well. But that also means there's very little incentive for Tesla to change their formula and be experimental. The Plaid is really much representative of that. It mostly got a beefed up powertrain, but got very little changes to its overall design and other features. The most prominent change is the (at this point infamous) 'yoke' and that is not even a step into the right direction. Meanwhile Porsche seems to be very confident and creative about their own electric future, which seems to have embolden them to design the Mission-R, which I find fascinating and awesome to look at, in pretty much every aspect.

[@helloukw]

Porsche 911 Or Carrera is amazing, but this Taycan doesn't hold any legacy, its just another VAG car, just like Panamera, in my point of view.

[@olivierbruylandt6474]

Claiming 500+ range for the plaid is quite "optimistic" Claiming 190 miles range for the Taycan tend to show that you did not drove one of them or had a look to reviews ... :( It seems to go much more to 250-270 miles. Moreover, when charging at 270 kW, whom does it bother to take a 10-14 minutes break every 2+ hours driving ? Here in Europe, you have to stop every 2 hours says the law (and probably our bodies too). This is the time to go to the toilets, grab a bottle of water, pay for it and go back to the car. So to which extend is the range such a big deal as log as it can provide more than 2-3 hours journey .. ?

[@LamborghiniPlaya]

You're Completely Correct!!!

[@iSchmidty13]

The Tesla is actually a fastback not a sedan!

[@SpankeyMcCheeks]

I think you got the Plaid and Plaid+ specs mixed up.

[@supaahflyy]

I like the Porsche design however if practicality is a question for anyone (it is for everyone with kids really), then i personally couldnt go for it for that reason. Its very very small inside. Sit one after the other between a Model S and Taycan and i dont really know how Porsche uses up all the space leaving the occupants with less

[@olivierbruylandt6474]

That is what will make the difference in case of a car crash between being injured/dead .. or not. They could have placed aluminium foil as doors or chewed paper as well to leave more space .. This is called "passive security". Try the Cross Turismo then if space is your main driver ...

[@supaahflyy]

@@olivierbruylandt6474 What you have just said is an opinion and not a fact. Infact the funny thing is Tesla according to crash safety testing EuroNCAP and the American equivalent (NHTSA or something along the lines), tesla vehicles have been either the safest or top 2 since the model S was unveiled in 2012. So if there's any car you want to be in during a collision between a Taycan and a Model S, it's the Tesla. C'mon mate, you can't throw around things without having the facts with you. I'm a big Porsche and Tesla fan, I got no qualms in this matter, but objectively speaking the Porsche is less safe of a car

[@maxl7827]

@@olivierbruylandt6474 From sfaety perspective taycan is way worse than model s

[@guse1219]

The head of Mercedes design said this traditional sedan shape can’t be done with an EV. I think he’s just trying to justify the blob…EQS

[@nihongobenkyoshimasu3190]

Can you make also a Tesla Model S (LR or Plaid) versus Lucid Air (Dream Edition or any other version) I am more interested about the outside and inside point of view, than the price and range between those two cars. It seems that the Lucid will offer various colors options, interiors variations, and wheels compared to the almost not options for the Tesla.

[@dotheroar2524]

Lucid doesn’t exist

[@jasper5097]

@@passing_bye5991 cry more hater. Tesla decimates lucid.

[@mattasinari8995]

Exactly. Good point. Let's go beyond the basics.

[@Milkastier]

I do like the Tesla but out of these two I'd still choose the Porsche. The actual range difference in the real world is more like 230 vs 300 miles and the 0-60 seems to be 2.3 or 2.2 for the tesla, not 2.0. So Tesla still is the fastest car out there for sure but that faster acceleration, even if it was 0.6s, is it worth the trade off? For me it raises the question, what's more important? Emotion, looks, faster charging, interior and build quality vs power and 70 miles more range and 40k$ less money. I don't quite get the Model S atm, 140k is super luxury brand territory but you don't get the luxury you might expect, you 'only' get power and more range which isn't as useful in a daily driver, which i believe both are meant to be. I'd rather feel more comfy and upscale in my car than know i can outrun the taycan on a drag strip. And the turbo S is still plenty fast. But that's just me.

[@a.banana]

it's not really about the millisecond difference in the pull to 60, it's after 60 that the difference becomes noticeable. Also, the 0-60 can be as low as 2.18 on a street surface without using rollout.

[@Milkastier]

@@a.banana yeah, like I said, 2.3 or 2.2 i wasnt sure about the exact time and i guess more tests are needed. so the difference to 60 is about 0.4s. Which is clearly better, I'm not trying to put Tesla down here the performace is amazing. This is all hypothetical anyway cause I can't spend 140k on a car let alone 190k for the Porsche lol. My point is, the performance is not as useful as some benefits the Porsche gives you in everyday use. For me, the Tesla I would choose is the Model X LR or Plaid, which is 10k less or more. Because that one gives some really useful benefits being that spacious and the performance is good enough I'd say. If I had 120-130k to spend on a car I still don't know if i wouldn't go for a slower but better built car though. Tough choice.

[@a.banana]

@@Milkastier I'm not trying to dismiss what has been said, I understand where you're coming from. I'm just saying, when it comes to EV's, at this level of HP, a 0-60 comparison will not really give a good idea of the performance gap. Even an all out, 2,000hp hypercar like the Rimac Nevera could only improve on the Plaid's 0-60 by 0.1 of a second. The 60-130mph paints a much clearer picture.

[@cobrachannel100]

Tesla has better drivetrain, battery, motors, tech, software, charging infrastructure, cargo and passenger space, range, cheaper. Not sure why anybody would even consider Porsche being $50K more. It is crazy.

[@Milkastier]

@@cobrachannel100 tech and software? I mean, it's got faster chips but the autopilot is worse. Not sure what you mean by that. Also, I think drivetrain, motors and batteries are one thing ;) Like I said, if power is the thing you care most about, the Tesla is the way to go. And yes, it has way more space. For me, interior quality, service, build quality, interior and exterior design would just be a lot more important since I wouldn't need more power or range with my driving profile. And if I need more space I'd go for the station wagon taycan. Handling would be a point to consider, but I don't know who'd win there. Charging infrastructure is similar where I live, maybe it's different for you.

[@shardie78239]

I’m not even watching the video. Your comparison is BS. Porsche will out resale the Tesla no matter how far it will go. Porsche is made to perfection.

[@jml9550]

I agree. I will take the Taycan and day of the week based on that logo and the predigree. Whether Porsche can or cannot outsell Tesla I couldn’t care less. To me I buys toys base on emotions, not pure numbers. Porsches are beautifully made.

[@ΣΑΒΒΑΣΙΩΑΝΝΙΔΗΣ-κ2η]

Driving a Model S: it's like driving an rc car Driving a Taycan: it's like driving a racecar

[@bliglum]

Still remember when the Model S came out, I thought to myself... "See Porsche, THAT is how you design a luxury hatchback sedan!"... As the Panamera at the time looked like a beached whale..... But with the Taycan, Porsche stepped it up. Very good looking car.

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

Couple things (Taycan owner here): 1) EPA rated range isn't a reliable indicator for actual range, Tesla overstates vs Porsche understates so the difference isn't that significant 2) You cannot possibly decide on a car without actually driving it. That's pointless. People almost never buy a car simply because of its acceleration time on a drag strip (unless they're planning to drag race it), they buy based on multiple factors like ride, handling, design, warranty, service etc... Porsche is hands down the winner in most of those areas, this is not disputable. Tesla is almost last on the JD Power list, Porsche is near the top. Many current Taycan owners have owned multiple Teslas and most say their experience was pretty bad with dealers, and quality issues were rampant. Before you give your opinion, go drive both and then make your comments about the values. :)

[@danieloh1075]

true but at the same time, many of us are not willing to jump from a base price of 130k and 185k, *BUT* then again, if you're going for such high performance cars, you might as well have the money for both btw which Taycan do you have? (my dad owns one too)

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

@@danieloh1075 4S, performance battery, performance package with 4-wheel steering, PDCC etc.. How do you like your dad's car, and does he like it?

[@danieloh1075]

@@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics oh we own a 4s too. Bought it off display. I love the frozen blue color and he loves it too. Only thing is that now my mom drives it because the whole family agreed that the color suited her more than it suited my dad and he agrees. My family wants to play it safe with the car but when I'm behind the wheel, I'm always flooring it, safely speeding of course.

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

@@danieloh1075 Haha I love it, the colour suits your mom better. So glad to hear you're enjoying it - it really shows the 'next level' in performance cars, doesn't it? I've enjoyed driving in the recent snowy winter weather lately as well; it's very capable.

[@aarvin1]

In real the Taycan looks absolutely gorgeous, the Tesla looks like it was designed for people who like Toyota & Hondas, people with tacky tastes.

[@lychvy8023]

Dont degrade the people who like Toyotas and Hondas to the same level as tesla fans hahaha

[@cobrachannel100]

Toyotas and Hondas are absolutely atrocious from the design perspective. Model S might be an older design but holding up pretty well and is classic. Taycan looks like shit in real world, not sure what the fuck you all saying.

[@youferrer]

You shouldn't go by EPA in range. It's notoriously inaccurate. The Porshe exceeds EPA by a lot, the Tesla underperforms by a lot as well. The same is true for stated 0-60 numbers. This is well known the Bembli should know this. For example I have both a Model 3 and a Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo. The model 3 gets around 40 miles less than EPA, the Porsche gets over 50 more in range.

[@redeyefarrah]

I don’t think many of those stats where accurate and your comparing the plaid do the turbo s, you should new comparing the taycan turbo s to the Tesla model x

[@martinapauline4625]

Taycan all day , I don’t care of the range and practicality. I care about styling , reliability

[@awc7279]

IMO Taycan is better looking than Model S, but E-tron GT is the best looking EV sedan that we currently have.

[@kaybe3044]

The Subaru WRX example got me laughing.

[@joseph5190]

like: taycan comment: tesla

[@kanela1465]

i like design of taycan, which's more fit for a sport car; tesla gets too much of the business feeling

[@applepulse]

tesla all day

[@xbxb]

Uhm. There's a 2022 Model S Plaid prototype that has the updated tail lights. hehe

[@silviuvelovici8307]

I am not a car specialist but I love your shows. How can you compare a Porsche to a car that looks like it was manufactured in China in the 1990s?

[@thisnameistoolong9169]

Teslas look very bland to me, not much of a character to the design. I can see them becoming the Audis of the future when everyone is used to them.

[@RickJameswozhere]

Just wait till next year for the Taycan facelift, it will destroy the Plaid.

[@Enzejansen]

Everytime I see a Taycan parked I'm looking back at it, that's how good it looks, I never have this when I see a tesla

[@pistolen87]

Totally agree with your analysis. Love the "nose" of the Taycan.

[@martinapauline4625]

Electric cars shoudl look like the porsche taycan

[@averagepainter]

am i the only one who finds the tesla look super generic?

[@anoniem9518]

Price to looks.... that's even more subjective than price to performance. But when it comes to looks, general consensus is the Taycan looks way better than the Plaid.

[@dustins965]

Too many cheap Tesla out there now so the brand losing its prestige. If I buy again, i'd take Porsche. Also Tesla now has poor customer service at their service center everytime i bring my car in.

[@lennoxbaumbach390]

Tesla is (like many other Silicon Valley companies) primarily pursuing a aggressive aquisition of (ever) new customers in order to grow fast and to satisfy all the hype around the company, atleast on a surface level. In this context, a long-term maintaining of customer support, satisfaction and loyalty is only secondary in that strategy. I'd also argue that Tesla's most important "product" is actually not their actual cars or (promised) software capabilities, but their enormous (and imo. inflated) stock valuation. Bc, if that stock value were to take a decent hit or deflates over time, Musk could be on the hook, bc he has apparently huge liabilties and is using large parts of his own stock portfolio as securties for that debt.

[@dustermcclean2517]

Give me a Tesla!

[@sebyfloristean9514]

I'd buy the taycan or an e-tron gt

[@xbxb]

The $40K difference(keep in mind, $180k for Tycan based model) goes to millions of stitching in the interior and the nice feel of the dash(that's important when you crash, you feel that luxurious material to your face).

[@devan271]

The Tesla looks ugly compared to the taycan

[@devan271]

@@passing_bye5991 as a taycan owner and a former model s owner I suggest you drive the taycan and then directly after you drive the model s. American car manufacturers struggle with everything that’s not technology and acceleration in a straight line.

[@cobrachannel100]

@@devan271 Have u driven the new Plaid? If not you better be quiet.

[@supastah68]

Porsche quality is way better than Tesla

[@user-Timothy1]

The Tesla Model S is the best looking Tesla, agree?

[@derickpnw]

Agreed on the taillights on the model S needs to be updated!

[@kuutti121]

In Europe they have these tiny little orange inserts as indicator lights, looks like an afterthought and not in scale with the car.

[@mortenkrogh8599]

The Taycan goes significantly longer than 192 miles. But the Tesla still got 50% longer range I real life, and got the amazing SuC network. The Tesla needs also to upgrade the brakes which cost anything between 200-2000$. The Tesla is also faster on the track and got twice the luggage space.

[@sakurazero3641]

Well the porsche looks better is build better doesn’t lie about acceleration and is as fast as the tesla. Tesla only wins in range

[@radfree9370]

You haven't seen the drag races lol

[@sakurazero3641]

@@radfree9370 real 0-100 of the plaid is 2.34 seconds

[@mrwn6284]

Tesla also wins in supercharger infrastructure

[@odisy64]

Nope, it 0-60mph in 2.14 seconds, its 1.98 with 1 foot rollout subtracted. Porsche lied about repeating preformance since voltage sag was never solved. The build quality is also questionable on the taycan since its thermal management system is worse than even the model 3. It takes the plaid 9.2 seconds to reach 150mph, it takes the taycan about 17 seconds.

[@sakurazero3641]

@@mrwn6284 true but i think at least here in eu it will get more evened out

[@muhammadhaseebullah1760]

Taycan came as a refined and feasible version of the 960 gran turismo. Make a video comparing the design of the two.

[@ivankuljis1780]

I am a former Architect.... co-founder of the Australian 356 Porsche Registry.... former major VW car collector....Painter.... Songwriter/Producer......... DON'T LIKE THE TAYCAN DESIGN....... imho

[@encoreartz1028]

I will take Etron gt

[@MrAndyb247]

The Tesla Plaid has 400 miles rsnge, it's the Lucid that had 520 miles range and 1,111bhp.

[@19jacobob93]

The Lucid is the best looking EV so far as well imo

[@MrAndyb247]

@@19jacobob93 The Lucid is good looking but, I quite like the Audi E-tron GT too.

[@jml9550]

@@MrAndyb247 I have seen a couple of Audi Etron GTs here in the SF baby area and in my opinion, look more masculine than the Taycan. Both are beautifully designed, take a pick depends on one’s taste.

[@guntodd]

The decision was made after 1 minute introduction. lol 😆

[@cdarw]

How can you review the Taycan without mentioning the BIG change in the rear doers?

[@Ven100]

Right. I think Tesla definitely delivered closer to concept than what Porsche did. I get the front hood had to be raised due to pedestrian laws, but the suicide doors could've been kept. Unless they decided it would've put the car well over 200K 🤣

[@rayshepherd2479]

Base model s plaid is now $89,990. For an additional $20,000 you can get a track package that upgrades the brakes, etc. So the price difference is now huge.

[@docmccoy9813]

I don't know why we don't see more suicide doors. Cars look so much better, IMO and the access to the car is easier and flamboyant. I imagine the tears in the Porsche designers when comparing the project and the product. So much was lost!

[@doctorbashir3497]

I can tell you why. I actually had a car that had suicide doors. Bmw i3. Getting into or out of the rear seats are impossible if you are parked next to another car. Opening the front and rear doors traps you in a little triangle. It’s hilarious the first time it happens. Plus most suicide doors are hinged so the front door must be open to open the rear doors.

[@ivankuljis1780]

TESLA PLAID S 'QUEEN OF THE ROAD' TESLA CYBRTRK [PLAID?] 'KING OF THE ROAD' I have a Day 1 reservation CT3 Will be placing 'TESLA STAR' on the sides of the CYBRTRK and maybe on the tailgate and roof!! 'DONT MESS WITH TESLA' BABY

[@priscusemmanuel8403]

quite honestly for the performance and handling of a Taycan pass the 0-60 and range, I really will take a taycan every day. If one is able to spend 140K, I am not sure if 40K is such a high climb.

[@daviddesert5491]

I repair both. The Porsche is far superior in build quality. But l just may take aTesla as l get my kicks from a 1965 Cooper s and l just need a "normal car". Tesla wins on.. Battery technology. Charging network. Price.

[@mrsoisauce9017]

I really wish sporty electric cars put more of an emphasis on driving experience than sheer speed. Every electric sports car I’ve seen has always been abt accelerating hard and going fast, and not abt losing the back end and pulling off the perfect shift. That’s y I personally dislike Tesla: they don’t have a manual option. Hell, they don’t even have a semi-automatic transmission. I would much rather have paddles than nothing at all. And Teslas can’t drift because none of the power is being sent 2 the rear wheels in any mode. Their quality control is garbage, and the interior is 2 simplistic (u can’t adjust something without flipping through 50 different menus in the screen, which is much more distracting and time consuming than just having the knob right there, and not a single soul in the world can change my mind). There r other reasons, but I’m just starting a few. I’m sorry if I hurt the feelings of a few Tesla fanboys in this comment section (I’m not)

[@pwj9703]

I would not be in doubt. TESLA beats Porsche on all parameters, software, battery, infotainment, range, tesla supercharger and speed. I have owned Porsche and had many expensive repairs.

[@davidbryant2872]

Sorry, but I see no point to look at how the design does or does not replicate the "concept," nor do I care very much about the design of the tail lamps (so long as they work). To me, the question is the function of the car -- how well does it do the job of transporting you and your passengers, as well as protecting you. That includes comfort, convenience (including charging and range), safety, and factors such as the audio system, build quality, cabin materials, and so on. In that sense, there are some start differences between these two cars. One emphasizes performance over luxury, the other includes both. And of course the prices differ accordingly. Differences in range and charging are significant, too, so the buyer has to decide what matters most.

[@HrHaakon]

I don't understand how people drive 195 miles per day every day. It's just... not something I do. Once you have enough, does it truly matter how much more than enough you have?

[@LamborghiniPlaya]

Did you say $185k for the base price? lol lol lol I think you got the information wrong, Get the prices right, and the range fo the Taycan is wrong too '192' miles is incorrect! Until you drive one of these cars then you will find out the real numbers.

[@ArthurFokkinga]

Unnessary question. The Tesla cannot stand in the shadow of the design (exterior an interior) and drivers ability of the Porsche.

[@MartinWohlmuth]

Porsche is much more quality and design. Range of Tesla is much shorter in reality. And just compare inside. Porsche a complete different and higher class. The Plaid is faster on straight road, but Porsche much more fun driving. It is not enough to compare the specs on paper like children.

[@maxl7827]

To me Taycan front looks ugly. Reminds me of a frog and tesla model 3. The rear of taycan looks stunning when I have seen them live. Model s is all around beautiful to me, if I would change something it would be the tail lights. The curves of the body and front lights look amazing. Would choose Plaid any day over a Turbo s.

[@beninvictoria]

As the prior owner of a Tesla and the current owner of a Taycan I would say that a decision can’t be and shouldn’t be made by comparing spec sheets and sitting in front of your computer. You need to drive these vehicles to appreciate just how different they really are!

[@cobrachannel100]

It would be tough to get a hold of Plaid. Not too many owners have them on Turo and you won't be able to test drive one from your local Tesla store. And the old S does not count, Plaid or even new LR S are totally different from previous models.

[@learnprogress6618]

Best u see them in real and drive them first. Porsche only looks nice if u put those wheels on it , I’ve seen others without this wheels & the car then looked ugly. Cyber truck is best as if it’s room inside and easy to get in and out

[@iowa_don]

1:03 - Top speed is NOT unlocked through a software update, it is unlocked through speed rated tires and wheels.

[@ElixoYT]

Can't justify the price? The price difference is probably with the interior detail and quality in addition to more visible and noticeable exterior details compared to minimalistic and simplistic Tesla

[@stormrider01]

WHO is cheaper: model s so I buy the model s. But I hate that electronic cars are so expensive. No one buys them except rich people.

[@carloorelli3538]

So many people writing they prefer the Taycan makes me think there's a lot of people with money to waste. $50k more for an inferior car

[@gonzalocorsico7158]

I totally agree with you. Good video, I'm waiting for tesla to do a wagon, #savethewagons

[@radomirbossev1300]

Never gonna happen :/ Wagon is dead.

[@manchuriancandidatethe3rd101]

model S is doing exactly what porsche did with the 911: settle changes every generation so it ages well. Plus it needs to retain its drag coefficient for performance and efficiency. Porsche is actually $220,000 easily with some modest options added and the Model S plaid w/ full self-driving beta is $150,000 and some change.

[@radomirbossev1300]

Exactly, for the price of a decent spec Tycan you can get a model S Plaid with FSD and get your wife a Model Y long range. It's a no brainer...

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

@@radomirbossev1300 Here's the thing - lots of Model S owners are buying Taycans now. It's a better car to own and drive. Doesn't hurt that you can get a Porsche courtesy car when you bring it in for service... :)

[@radomirbossev1300]

@@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics That is really hard to believe. Literally nobody would give up a Plaid for a Tycan

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

@@radomirbossev1300 Look, I'm in the same boat. I had a deposit on the Plaid+ but didn't convert and buy. I don't see enough value in the extra power, because I love my Porsche. I'm literally trying to get someone to come to our local race track to do laps with me. It would be fun and interesting. What you don't realize is that a lot of us have driven and owned both cars now. We know exactly what the differences are.

[@radomirbossev1300]

@@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics Sure, I get what you're saying. Looks, drive feel, user experience and brand loyalty are all subjective. I see why you would get a Tycan based on something like that. Haven't driven/ridden a Tycan so I can't say if I would like it more or less. I'm just an objective person and want to get the best product for the money I'm spending.

[@xamava]

I personally think the porsche taycan is horrible compared to its concept some lines got so ruined in the production model

[@IceWolf-id3hf]

I don't see the need for a debate between a tesla and a porsche Should be obvious which one to take

[@ronaldfish1569]

You need to go back and look the price for the model s plaid is 117409

[@matteofalduto766]

As much as I appreciate Teslas overall, aesthetically I’ve always found them quite “meh”

[@st-ex8506]

I guess it is the price to pay for having cars that age gracefully, with little need for tooling changes in manufacturing.

[@maxl7827]

Model s is stunning, model x looks great for a suv. Model 3 and y are pretty ugly though

[@st-ex8506]

@@maxl7827 that’s subjective. Many people will agree with you… and many won’t. I love the look of my Model 3…

[@maxl7827]

@@st-ex8506 I mean yes I would rather drive a model 3 than a toyota or nissan. We have a model s👌

[@st-ex8506]

@@maxl7827 good for you! Model S is too big for my needs, and a (relative) nuisance to park in European cities. But I shall switch to a Model Y made in Germany next year.

[@VRKyurem]

Hi @bembli I love your content :) keep it up!

[@GA-wq8xq]

Do real world range not the fake Tesla figures which have been debunked.

[@jasper5097]

Still higher than the Taycan Turbo S

[@GA-wq8xq]

@@jasper5097 maybe so but range is not the only thing. It is odd that a Tesla fanatics have to fall back on zero to sixty speeds (if only appropriate for one acceleration run and range). There are many other reasons to buy a car and Tesla loses on those like style, design, quality and reliability

[@jasper5097]

@@GA-wq8xq clearly there aren't enough, since two of them you mentioned are about the Tesla's looks. But that's besides the point, I'm not here to argue which vehicle you'd pick. You asked for the publisher to use the Tesla's and Taycan's real range, and I responded with the factual information that the Tesla's real world range is still higher than the Taycan's real world range. Do not deviate from the point.

[@GA-wq8xq]

@@jasper5097 in some testing the range differences are minimal (10 miles or less). Tesla is known fir overstating their range figures. Range figures are self reported and not EPA confirmed. I trust Porsche and they are more conservative than Tesla.

[@jasper5097]

@@GA-wq8xq they are though. Go search it yourself, youtube doesn't allow links.

[@mg63shooter83]

Personally i hate the design of the taycan i would take the audi rs etron on looks alone

[@NICKCAMP04]

Taycan for me

[@mohamedashry3337]

Porsche experience weight gold value...

[@SkyRiver1]

The only one who is going to see the Tesla tail lights is the Porsche that is racing you.

[@mattasinari8995]

Bembli good review but you forgot that the quality of details, components, and handling/racing engineering of Porsche is better. Eventually range will be all the same for all the cars, but you need to teach people about the "quality and timelessness" of design, not just pure styling design. You can explain it well, and you SHOULD. KEEP UP THE GREAT JOB!