Tesla Model Y RWD vs Model Y Long Range Spring highway efficiency test

[@Petlaw99]

Just upgraded from a RWD to LR here in Oz. It's winter here now and I'm seeing much the same as your winter comparison.

[@MyRealNameIs]

Nice vid, i love the useful comparison. I would love to see a test between Model 3 RWD (Highland) and Model 3 AWD (highland).

[@gameover-tp7ie]

you lost alot of range due to that preconditioning, actually you ran most of the trip with the preconditioning on in the rwd, the lr could make it back with a full charge, it probably didn't even start the preconditioning. You should just drive there without selecting the charger on the route so you count out the preconditioning loss, i bet that the rwd would also do it on a single charge without preconditioning, or at least come VERY close :)

[@MrGoogle87]

This makes big difference indeed

[@MrGoogle87]

Did you precondition car at 100% before you went? (This increases range, most likely more for the Rwd, because it has more mass to heat per kWh)

[@rakeshgopidi4066]

@Twin Motors Off the topic - i use Y SR BYD battery 07.2023 gigaberlin made , suppose if we have setup after market accessories 1) front display screen with front camera fitted and 2) back screen entertainment screen and 3) ambient lighting will this consume lot of battery ?

[@Twin.motors]

@@rakeshgopidi4066 I have a rear screen in the back and LED lights that are basically always on. It won't impact the battery much at all. Under 0.1% per day Oh and the LR has about 8 metres of LED lights in his, always on and it's the same story, no impact on battery

[@voldar70]

Great video and test. As I mentioned in the previous video (charging from 0% to 100%) you posted, the LR will always be the winner vs the SR by about 15 minutes, no matter the distance to travel. Now, the question to answer would be : do you want to pay more for those 15 minutes ? (and of course the rest : AWD, better sound system, fog lights). What's interesting, both cars came back home with 4% although both navigations said 9%. And yes, 8% efficiency difference between the two is just right. Why ? Because the AWD Tesla doesn't run always on the two motors. Mostly it runs on RWD and uses the front motor only when needed. This is why it was worse in winter drive, because it engages the front motor every time the tires slip. And the front motor is the less efficient one.

[@Twin.motors]

@@voldar70 both have the premium sound system. We charge ours to 100% every time ( at home ) and often we had to charge to 100% since superchargers are far away sometimes in Europe. I would love to have a genuine race one time but over a 2000km distance to see exactly which would get back home first. ( Within speed limits of course )

[@voldar70]

@@Twin.motors As far as I know the SR sound system is lacking some speakers. I agree that a 2000 km run would be great, but you can project on ABPR a route of 2000 km using once the LR and then the SR. You will see the difference between the two pretty quick : the bigger the distance, the bigger the difference.

[@Twin.motors]

@@voldar70 @voldar70 in Europe they both have the premium sound system. Only the model 3 has a weaker sound system vs the LR model 3. Those apps don't estimate correctly, even the Tesla one makes mistakes sometimes, I wouldn't trust a 3rd party app like ABRP. But a real world test would be awesome to do

[@GDM22]

My understanding was the Model Y RWD sound system was also premium, it was only the Model 3 that had a downgraded stereo in the RWD. So you gain quicker acceleration, add slightly more range when you charge to 100%, you give up some efficiency and likely see higher battery degradation, with a battery that is also less safe, although this is a very small risk. With a more than 20% price difference in Australia it is hard to justify for most.

[@MrGoogle87]

Did you precondition car at 100% before you went? (This increases range, most likely more for the Rwd, because it has more mass to heat per kWh) Also preconditioning for charging increases energy usage, you did this with RWD not AWD, messes up data

[@Twin.motors]

@@MrGoogle87 they were both preconditioned for an identical amount of time so the test is as fair as possible.

[@JosGrun]

Nice tests on your channel! Could you do a midrange acceleration test ("race") from 50 or 60 km/h to 120 km/h with these 2 model Y's? Quite curious if the difference is as big as from a standstill, where we know the RWD is electronically power limited.

[@Twin.motors]

@@JosGrun it's a little tricky since the dual motor had the boost update but we compared them pre-boost and the difference is not that big. Overall I feel the RWD could use another 50hp and the dual motor is too powerful for its own good

[@JosGrun]

@@Twin.motors Haha I can imagine. Is your RWD the one with the BYD blade battery or the CATL? And indeed thought already that in standard form the mid-range performance would be quite similar between the RWD and the LR. I drive the model Y RWD with BYD blade battery and haven't had a moment that I thought that i needed more power. (So I will never make a testdrive in the LR / Performance.. For my own safety)

[@Twin.motors]

@@JosGrun the RWD has a CATL battery. BYD battery sounds like a nice improvement overall

[@dinutepes]

You can swipe to the right or down and autocratically start calculating for heading home if you are away or to your office address if you are home. Less clicking 😊

[@Twin.motors]

@@dinutepes hmm didn't know that, thanks for the tip

[@xghostyxjokerx]

Any more comparison videos to come?

[@Twin.motors]

@@xghostyxjokerx what would you like to see ? 😁

[@FromPetroltoTesla]

Thanks a LOT!

[@devinliang]

Hi,this is Hansshow,we are specialized in Tesla accessories,how do we reach out for collaboration?

[@gameover-tp7ie]

Also since you guys have both rwd and lr, maybe you could try a downhill regen test, since the lr should theoretically regen more because of the two motors. Also, have you guys thought about testing regen settings in country roads without autopilot? I'm really curious if coasting is more economical than one pedal driving, sexy buttons i think allows modulating the regen amount

[@Twin.motors]

@@gameover-tp7ie we've actually done a regen test. I didn't get around to editing the video since it was wildly inconsistent. At one point the LR stopped much faster and then in other attempts they were the same.

[@micha8765]

the front motor is not able to regen! it is a completely different type of electric engine

[@jriis2010]

I would like to see a comparison on daily use over a longer period, where the RWD can and should charge to a 100% where the LR should not be charged to more than 80%.

[@Twin.motors]

@@jriis2010 nah. Every EV should be charged to 100%. We've been charging our EVs for years to 100% and will continue to do so since we paid 100% for them. They have 8 years of warranty on the battery so even long term is not an issue

[@jriis2010]

@@Twin.motors Yes, but only the LFP type should be charged to 100% on a daily basis to reduce degrating the battery. But if that or money (resale) is not an issue, you are quite right.

[@lucdelouw9226]

Hello Was the rwd always driving behind the dual drive?

[@Twin.motors]

@@lucdelouw9226 no, we alternated every 15 minutes to keep things even

[@sissach1]

I have the RWD and prefer it for the cost (7000 euro less) and the fact that its plenty fast enough. I also like that I can charge to 100% routinely without major degradation. In terms of options, the RWD is identical to the AWD except for front fog lights.

[@RayNLA]

I believe that the stereo in the RWD have less speakers also.

[@sissach1]

@@RayNLAthat’s not the case in Europe, we get full premium audio in the RWD

[@GDM22]

@@sissach1 Also in Australia, with the Shanghai based Model Y's.

[@basictimes4554]

This is rwd with ”short range”?

[@Twin.motors]

@@basictimes4554 yes, short range rwd.

[@norazheng7628]

hi, how can we contact you for collaborations?

[@Twin.motors]

@@norazheng7628 hey. You can email me at [e-mail] 😊

[@issiewizzie]

is the wheels 19 or 20

[@Twin.motors]

@@issiewizzie 19 on both

[@issiewizzie]

@@Twin.motors thanks

[@ekocumben]

Is it catl or byd battery? 60kw?

[@Twin.motors]

@@ekocumben it's CATL, I would love to go head to head with a BYD pack and see how they supercharge in comparison.

[@ekocumben]

@@Twin.motors We bought a Tesla sr, it is catl60 but it gets 53.5kw in fully charge. Service says after 10fully charge or about after first 3000km, it will shows best performance. Did you see any difference first 2000-3000km in terms of range.

[@Twin.motors]

@@ekocumben I found the battery to be very consistent, no noticeable drop in range and I keep track of common trips that I do every month and % use. I have over 30,000km so far. ( I'm sure there's some sort of loss but it's not noticeable )

[@worms32]

At 41% charge level consumption was 34 kwh. That makes battery capacity 57.62 kw, which is very good. In 2024 catl rwd we calculate the capacity 53.5 kw unfortunately.