Teslas NEW CCS Adapter Blew Me Away | Charges EVEN Faster

[@0226memo]

Tesla still sells new ECU. Just picked one up on Friday and did the retrofit today. Took 15 minutes to install. Longest part was waiting for the car to reinstall software to new ECU. But now I have CCS capability and it works flawlessly

[@arthaschen4701]

This is actually life changing. There’s no Tesla supercharger near my apartment and I have been worried about charging ever since I ordered my MYP a couple weeks ago.

[@constantbuzz]

You hopefully have a place to slow charge, L1 or L2- if you fast charge all the time on an L3 charger, that is going to shorten the number of years of the battery's service life.

[@jigs8437]

​@@constantbuzzIf you charge at 72 kw Tesla supercharger that shouldn't affect your battery life at all. It's those V3 supercharger that will ruin your battery longevity

[@wroniec]

In Poland, there aren't a lot of supercharger so I often use CCS2 chargers. In My Model Y ccs2 is the standard connector. I also can navigate to the non-tesla charger via the tesla charging map and it preheats my battery.

[@pentti3715]

Even FSO Polonez and Polski Fiat is better than Tesla.

[@wroniec]

@@pentti3715 ok and it may be it's your opinion

[@WiZe1972]

@@pentti3715 Yet you’re here watching a Tesla video…Had an Etron S Sportback last year, issues with virtual mirrors, Apple CarPlay not showing, MMI in general… Had my Shanghai built Model 3 since September 2021, no issues whatsoever

[@pentti3715]

@@WiZe1972 ok, but I like to drive cars and not let cars drive me.

[@wwecallofduty123]

I think tesla in a year or two will drop their charging port for CCS in the USA and do what they do in Europe now. I do wish the tesla port became standard since it isn't bulky and uses the same connector for any type of charging but it looks like CCS will probably be the winner

[@DouglasJMark]

Wonderful learning about EV Go as well. They sound like they really appreciate your business unlike some other brand. Will keep EV Go in mind for our TMY LR.

[@HOFFERN342]

I am glad Tesla has CCS as the standard port here in Europe, no adapter needed except for the legacy Model X and S models,

[@danzen6246]

CCS sucks Tesla adapter is so much better it's smaller lighter and better. It's becoming standard over here in North America

[@andyschmidt7413]

Happy to see you covering it in a video 😉

[@jamesp5343]

Daaang, calling a 2018 "old" makes me feel like I need to retire my 2013! haha

[@mark100177]

Had no idea that evgo has the built-in tesla charger. Great info. Thank you!!

[@balaji-kartha]

That was great. Did not know EV Go was that good! 👍

[@keyaggie]

Haven’t watched your vids in awhile, glad you’re still making good Tesla vids. This was helpful. 2016 S, I need a new ECU.

[@ItsKimJava]

Welcome back!

[@Justin.abston]

I didn’t know EVgo has Tesla chargers! That’s so good to know. Thank you!!

[@jimwhitehead1532]

Me too. EVGo needs to reach out big time, to let Tesla owners know.

[@honesty_-no9he]

They basically round up a bunch of 50kW CHADEMO adaptors and put them inside the unit.

[@tedmoss]

@@honesty_-no9he That doesn't make any sense.

[@iscjorgito]

I was at that same spot about a week ago! , I used the one next to Tabitha (Lautaro I think) , I don’t have a ccs combo adapter and it was my first time using EVgo , I did struggle a little bit for a few minutes and wasn’t the best charging speed, I wish I had seen this before! , Thank you for posting, definitely getting the adapter

[@evilphuk]

Loved this video it was very informative

[@wonderfulday3208]

Thank you for your interesting news as always and details up to cent

[@ObscurelyTitled]

Cool Love it Kim

[@Chiweeniedad]

Hey Kim thanks for sharing all this great information. I have been watching your channel for a few years now and I finally pulled the trigger on a 2023 M3! #ATL

[@ItsKimJava]

Congrats!

[@AlexPerrucci]

Really well done informative video! 👍🏼

[@sierrafoothillslife4246]

Great video Kim. 👍 We own a 2019 MS 100D and are taking a cross country road trip this summer. We’ve scheduled the upgrade with Tesla Service and they are sending a mobile tech next week. Total cost is NorCal is $482.36 with tax.

[@davidwho8215]

I have the CCS adapter as well. I am able to get 250 kW on my 2021 MYLR at some stations, and the price when you can pay by the kWh, its generally a little better than a Tesla supercharger. I sometimes use them on local road trips, but I’m careful to make sure a Tesla supercharger is nearby, just in case the stations are down, which is common..

[@techyjames1945]

Must be nice I have late 2021 Model Y and I don’t have hardware for CCS charging.

[@davidwho8215]

@@techyjames1945 - that odd, my 2021 MYLR was delivered in February 2021, and it has the option and I use it. I thought all models since October 2020 had the update.

[@jasonhodgson2528]

I also picked up my Model Y in February 2021 and it is CCS adaptor compatible according to the Tesla Shop website

[@davidwho8215]

@@jasonhodgson2528 - it’s nice to have but I seldom use it as CCS stations are just not reliable enough to count on for a road trip. I do use ones in my region that I know typically work due to their prices, but I always ensure there is a supercharger nearby.

[@steveburdex6104]

Kim, I currently have a 2021 model 3 SR +, I had to have Tesla service install retrofit it was like 300 for the ECU. I'm thinking about buying a new 2024 Model 3 LR. My question is will I be able to use my ccs adapter as soon as I get it or will I need to have to ha e something installed?

[@dmbong]

Great info to learn. Thanks for sharing with us!

[@sulzous]

MY NEW LUCID AIR ARRIVED TODAY!!!! I’m sitting it right now I think I might move in

[@scottbreseke716]

You'll save money on rent.

[@wwecallofduty123]

Congrats hope you enjoy it

[@palindrome11]

My Tesla was manufactured Oct 2021 and I took delivery of it on Oct 23, 2021. It says ccs not installed. Assuming this means your statement about all Teslas after Oct 5, 2020 is not correct.

[@fb341]

Thank you for a lot of useful information. However, your calculations regarding charging costs (@ 4:48) are inconsistent and are based on different numbers of kWh. Here are all of the calculations using your stated prices per kWh for 100kWh: Tesla: $0.30 x 100kWh = $30 $0.50 x 100kWh = $50 CCS: $0.25 x 100kWh = $25 $0.45 x 100kWh = $45 Thanks again, and keep up the good work.

[@Watt_Ihr_Volt]

Looks much better than the old one (I heard one could just unplug that one, right?) . Here in Europe all Teslas anyway have the standard CCS charger, so we do not have that issue. but jeez is it cheap to charge in the US. Here we have now 74cents per kWh at SuC and 55 with some others

[@tedmoss]

Every thing's newer, bigger and therefore cheaper in the U.S.; just wait and see what Ukraine looks like in 20 years.

[@TheRealMartin]

Yea but you have CCS2 in Europe which is better than CCS1.

[@Watt_Ihr_Volt]

@@TheRealMartin did not even know there is a CCS1... learned something today 👍

[@thinerj1]

Tesla need to start installing these chargers around more business like shopping malls, Walmart's, Targets, Grocery stores and at parks and hotels. So that when you are parked at a place you can get some charge in the vehicle.

[@sebarr48]

So useful! Thank you!

[@jettajones8215]

Awesome info Kim. Gonna order one of these.

[@ItsKimJava]

Thanks Jetta! Happy holidays.

[@brentftaylor]

Great info. We also own a 2018 LR Model3

[@Louisthx]

I took delivery of my Tesla on October 5, 2020 and my car is CCS enabled. My car was fresh out of the factory a few days earlier so If you have a car purchased around that date double check the car settings, You may get lucky

[@demariushenderson1802]

Took delivery of a new 2021 Model 3 Performance on 11/05/2021, and no CCS charging support. Sucks, because there is no Tesla Supercharger in Pensacola, FL, only an Electrify America station.

[@wwecallofduty123]

@@demariushenderson1802 request a charger through teslas new site to request a charger location

[@Pajtim2023]

My ccs adspter support says enabled Dows that means i can use it right?

[@Dstylez92]

Ahhh I see you kim 😉 “we’re at 420” awesome

[@viking2000rob]

I have the adapter as well, and I do make use of it on road trips. if there are reasonably priced CCS options along the route. EVgo does not have any locations near me, yet, but I plan to keep an eye out for them with their recently announced deal to install chargers at many Pilot and Flying J locations. I am looking at driving the Cannonball route in 2023, and the CCS adapter is an integral part of my road trip kit.

[@kengarrett2211]

learned something new, evgo has some tesla plugs, excellent

[@dotmatrixxx]

Thanks for this video. When I get delivery this month or next and get my actual vin number will order this adapter. Don’t think I will ever use it but you never know. I got my at home fast charger already set up so when I take delivery. Only thing I need left to buy is car mats/ the garage door opener adapter to be installed when I get delivery of car/ and the actual key fob.

[@TechProGabe]

There are some free ccs chargers near me which makes this adapter super cool 😎

[@EVtripper]

I hope they come out with the upgrade for my old 2015 Model S 70d! Been waiting patiently.

[@frankcoffey]

Good review, I just ordered the CCS Combo 1 from Tesla, better to have it than need it and not have it. In Sep. 2023 the price on the Tesla site is only $175.00. Nice.

[@vincenthuynh9884]

Thank you . I am Tesla Owner but my house is next to EV go . WIll get CCS adapter .

[@jamesdubben3687]

I kind of forgot about the NACS (hehe Tesla) connectors on EVgo Stations. Funny they didn't mention it in the e-mail EVgo sent me about the 3 free months. With a 2019 M3 I blew off the offer. Now I have to check my next road trip with EVgo locations.

[@kabisayago]

Can I use that to any Third party EV Charger?

[@Youtubeuseritis]

What was 2018 model 3 charging speed? Thanks

[@td389]

Thank you. Great insight

[@michaelfruchter732]

Hello, Great Video As Usial Kim.. Thank You Can Someone please tell me where to find this adapter.. Everyone says the website and it’s never there when I check Thank You

[@ItsKimJava]

shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter

[@michaelfruchter732]

Hi Kim Yay 🎉 That Worked Thank You Thank You ❤

[@michaelfruchter732]

You’re The Best !!!!!🎉

[@petersachs764]

Great video. The Ironic thing is that for some reason my 2015 Spark EV equipped with CCS does not work at those "Delta" brand EvGO chargers. EVgo has yet yo give me an explanation so I've been using just EA and Chargepoint DC chargers as of late.

[@dianemarie5621]

Does the CCS adapter do away with the need for a J1772 adapter?

[@daviidfm923]

There are a few sr+ after 2020 that do not support ccs. It was during the chip shortage and they didn’t install the new ecu :/. I have a late 2021 without support.

[@virtual-viking]

Here in Europe, the Model 3 and Y come with CCS plugs as standard - but wouldn't it be neat if there was just a Tesla plug in yhe left sidd _and_ a CCS in the right, so they would work everywhere?

[@haselhofler]

Interestingly in Europe we have CCS2 whereas you seem to have the older CCS1 with this little hook on top which the CCS2 doesn't have.

[@tedmoss]

That's a good thing, since the CCS1 with the hook keeps mis-connecting.

[@marienguyen2501]

Our 2020 June will work with this adapter but my 2018 lrm3 won’t.

[@hulonthesurvivor5884]

Great work. Great video.

[@Pajtim2023]

I have tesla model 3 2022 Does that work with that I have free charging station on my mall I need this

[@davidluchenbill3671]

Nice video! Thanks for the information. I think I might order an adapter for my MY.

[@eAddict]

How do you precondition your battery for a non tesla supercharge?

[@miami3863]

You can’t right now. You would need to set a Supercharge as your destination and then use your phone to navigate to a non Tesla fast charger.

[@FLAdamRX]

I have a 2021 Performance Model Y and Performance Model 3. Y Built in August 2021 and 3 built in October 2021. Neither Support CCS charging.

[@asommer518]

EVGO is WAY more expensive then Tesla rates here in Florida. Tesla is $0.33 to $0.39 per kwh EVGO is $0.40 and up unless you prepay subscribe. If you are a Tesla owner and usually charge at home and happen to need an EVGO charger expect to pay 25%+ more than Tesla Super Chargers

[@scoty_does]

Just curious but does the upgrade increase speed of charging for super charging? I have a 2017 S and am thinking about the upgrade for road trips in a state the doesnt have a tone of supercharger.

[@Thunder7ga]

I just got my CCS for our new Model Y. More options for charging while traveling was the key.....haven't used it yet, but I am sure we will soon enough.

[@tedmoss]

Test it before you need it.

[@martydavis9777]

were can I get this adapter

[@Thunder7ga]

@@martydavis9777 Tesla’s shop website.

[@michaelfruchter732]

Hi it’s not on the website whenever I check

[@BeamDeam]

@@michaelfruchter732 it probably doesn't show because for now it only is available for newer vehicles.

[@jameshoffman552]

2:08 The adapter could serve as a crime deterrent in a pinch given its resemblance to a firearm from the business end. The DC part has the dimensions of a double-barrel shotgun.

[@wwecallofduty123]

SHHHH they might make it illegal in California if you say that

[@macmovieman1]

Where is the link to buy it?

[@roytrayan8972]

What if you were to leave car to charge, you went to store. Can someone unplug the charger?

[@qman66]

I need to try this actually. put my phone on airplane mode and try to unplug it next. Cause I have no idea

[@wwecallofduty123]

I would assume since tesla makes the adapter and has a locking mechanism in the car it would lock but this should definitely be tested

[@markmd9]

How about adapters Tesla to CCS?

[@Mainuh]

Great video Kim! Thanks. Anxiously awaiting my 23 MYLR (1st EV). Had a question on the EVGo as we'll be going from AZ to ME within a few weeks of receiving our new Model Y. On their app where you arrange prepay and mentioned being able to reserve a charger, does it show you the status of the station you are going to as in how many total chargers vs how many available? I would think it would be confusing to back into a charger and find out it wasn't available as it was reserved. After watching this, will definitely get the CCS adapter and activate the 3 month EVGO trial to give it a whirl. Thanks again!

[@johntobia8677]

Great video Kim, thank you for covering this. Also what is the second display you have on your 2018 model 3. Thank you in advance

[@ItsKimJava]

Here it is. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJbZmYmabr1krcU

[@johntobia8677]

@@ItsKimJava thank you Kim

[@JY-lg6ee]

Hi, can you charge EA on Tesla with CCS1 adaptor by using a Credit Card without APPS ?? like in Gasoline Station ??

[@ItsKimJava]

Yes

[@klownicle]

Honestly didn't know EVGo had built in Tesla connectors. What's their max speed you'll receive using that on an older model 3?

[@ItsKimJava]

I believe at some stations they’re up to 150 kw

[@klownicle]

@@ItsKimJava Definitely going to keep that in mind! Thx

[@marienguyen2501]

Do all EV Go have the tesla adapters?

[@ItsKimJava]

Not all

[@LJ-jq8og]

KIM QUESTION: How prevalent is EVGO compared to the other national charging networks ? Just curious IF you feel EVGO is the "next best" to the Tesla Super Charging network ⁉

[@ItsKimJava]

I think so. The auto charge feature and also the ability to reserve chargers sets them apart. They seem more catered to tesla owners which we obviously like.

[@LJ-jq8og]

@@ItsKimJava 🙏

[@AugustBanks]

Specific to DC fast charging (and excluding Tesla) Electrify America is the largest. EvGo is 2nd, followed by ChargePoint.

[@LJ-jq8og]

@@AugustBanks Thanks August for the straight-up... 💪 I dont want to be signing up for all these damn subscriptions just to find out it won't serve my needs 🙏

[@LJ-jq8og]

@@AugustBanks NOW the big question is how many of these undesirable (to me) alternatives have "working" non-nightmare apps and chargers to slog through ⁉

[@toyangermitanya]

I have a question, a tesla owner got mad because I unplugged his car. Over 250min charging, on a free charging area,with the charging etiquette of 20-30min. He said his car will have damage because I unplugged on this same adapter. The adapter was left behind. I have bad experience with tesla drivers, I'm in Canada btw. I mean sure charge for as long as you want, but not on free charging ones where people are waiting in line.

[@dr.projectx5142]

I prefer EA pay the $4.00 for the kwhr .31 when doing long road trips on my 2017 bolt ev.

[@BostonSailor]

Hi Kim. Thanks for the demo video. I must be using the APP wrong. Don't seem to find many EVGO units in Upstate NY or Mass. Not many in Boston area either. What process do you use to find a station?

[@ItsKimJava]

The evgo app, PlugShare and on board the tesla itself all should populate chargers within your vicinity. EVgo is expanding and building out now but they’re definitely the most reliable by our experience.

[@BostonSailor]

@@ItsKimJava thank you!

[@johnpoldo8817]

I’m in Boston and SW Florida and have seen EVGo in Boston, Quincy, Chestnut Hill, etc. There are only a couple in SW Florida and I’m trying to get one in my city.

[@Resist4]

My city only has 3 of their charging stations and none of them have a Tesla connector. The next closest EVgo charging stations or over 100 miles away. But luckily my area and State has a lot of Tesla Supercharging stations.

[@wwecallofduty123]

I bet most of their chargers don't have tesla plugs and she happens to live near one of the few in the country that actually do

[@Resist4]

@@wwecallofduty123 I did find out that supposedly they are replacing their network with the newer stations that have multiple connectors and that could take a long time. But I would like to know how they can claim to use 100% renewable energy. How exactly does that work? Aren't they tied into the local grid of each City? And those 100% renewable.

[@jameshoffman552]

0:12 A 2018 Model 3 and a 2022 Model X. I think you need my 2020 (white) Model Y to fill out your fleet.

[@anatolyspencer2730]

I’m confused.. why buy the adapter if they have a Tesla charger built right into the evGo stations?

[@constantbuzz]

Not all stations have them- it is a good tool to have just in case, especially if you long distance travel a lot.

[@bob533c7]

Are you damaging the battery by using this fast charger?

[@constantbuzz]

wears it faster, yes. Should only be use when needed, long distance travel.

[@jayv5624]

Great stuff. Unfortunately EVgo doesn't have 250 kW chargers in the North East. Not from what I see in their app anyway. They typically run between 50 and 100 kW. Electrify America is probably the closest your get to Tesla Superchargers in the area. With that said, I'll probably purchase the CSS adapter to have as a backup just in case.

[@abc123fhdi]

Is the no session fee only during the trial? sux that you have to pay a monthly fee only worth it if you live near an EV go charger and use it all the time vs. home charging. charging at third party chargers I heard can be a hassle.

[@itss.freddy]

That’s awesome for tesla owners but other ev owners I hate seeing teslas charging at our stations 🤣🤣🤣 we need more fast charging stations everywhere in so cal , at reasonable prices 😁

[@yellowboxster06]

That was useful even for us non-EV owners. Trying to educate myself…

[@CGHomes]

So since EVGO has a built in tesla charger, why would we need this CCS adapter?

[@ItsKimJava]

Many EVgo’s don’t and most other non Tesla chargers don’t in general.

[@TheElectricMan]

I love This #Tesla Video

[@rdsieben]

We don't have EVgo chargers in Canada :(

[@wwecallofduty123]

You're not missing out

[@pinkelephants1421]

Would also be interesting to see how well this would work at Electrify America stations considering they don't always have the most reliable reputation.

[@DeltaScalper]

I use EA 150 station close by all the time , haven't seen it go past 128kw but happy to pay 31c at any time with a membership , compared to 50c Tesla charges now , Los Angeles .

[@pinkelephants1421]

@@DeltaScalper As I was watching the video it occurred to me that this should give an incredible boost to Tesla's already long lead demand times for those that can afford a Tesla. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Teslateer but I really look forward to Chinese EV manufacturers making their debut worldwide. The multitudinous smaller cheaper and often basic EV's should frighten the living daylights out of ICE manufacturers everywhere - and that of more than a few EV manufacturers including Tesla. The latest MG4 & 5 EV's are now on sale in EU & UK for around €35000 & £28,485ish respectively. They seem very respectable with a reasonable amount of functionality. Teslas have great levels of functionality but you almost need to don your pith helmet, safari outfit, & dig out your bush machete before venturing forth into the infotainment menu - there's so many levels of info to slash your way through before you're able to rescue the princess from the lions and hyenas.

[@tedmoss]

@@DeltaScalper Dirty power is cheaper.

[@tedmoss]

@@pinkelephants1421 Why would it frighten Tesla? They went there to help the Chinese, knowing it was impossible to fulfill there mission to electrify the world by themselves. They need all the help they can get, and so do we. Fighting stubborn bureaucrats all the way.

[@pinkelephants1421]

@@tedmoss I only meant in the sense that Tesla, although absolutely brilliant, and having succeeded beyond everyone's wildest dreams, are finding themselves stubbornly stuck in the luxury car segment. I assume you, like myself and thousands of others, have closely followed the company's progress over the years, and as such, have seen many comments around the: "we had to save for 3yrs, 4yrs etc to be able to afford a SEXY car"? So, if you extrapolate that out, out of the many, many, buyers, how many of those would have (still) opted for a Tesla given the opportunity to buy a much, much cheaper EV? Quite a lot would not have I think is the probable answer for a fairly high percentage of buyers. TBC: I'm not trying to denigrate Tesla in any way, shape, or form. But I do think that Elon's Californian, Silicon Valley, wealthy mindset's origins really show up in the obsession with fancy bells & whistles, most of which will rarely feature on most people's radar - just as with any other gadgets from washing machines & microwave ovens right through to our digital devices; we choose the everyday basic functions & largely ignore the rest. Most of us couldn't even tell you what the various bells & whistles were, let alone how to use them. That's been true for 40 years going back to when video recorders started to become more sophisticated; I remember mine this way.🤪😅

[@johnnykim3955]

That parking job though 😩

[@rochellepenaranda6663]

we assemble this product we call it Combo❤

[@MrSpecify9]

How was your model x charging so fast? I tested my adapter (OEM), and I couldn't get above 200kW (185kW was my peak). This is at under 20% battery and preconditioning.

[@PhotoJohn80]

I think all cars should be able to use all chargers. I find it funny that some of the Tesla owners I have met got so upset that CCS cars will be able to use Tesla chargers, but they also think they should use the CCS chargers. Some people are so hypocritical about this charging station change.

[@wwecallofduty123]

I agree and eventually every car will use a standard(probably CCS) so this won't be an issue anymore. Although I do like the tesla connector a lot more than CCS since it isn't bulky and is easier to use.

[@martydavis9777]

were can I purchase this adapter?

[@scottbreseke716]

On the Tesla website.

[@michaelfruchter732]

I can’t find it there whenever I look

[@martydavis9777]

I’ve checked it’s not there

[@bmanfitz]

It's 4:20 here all day long 😜

[@MikeFede]

4:53 giggity

[@ketolifestyle68]

i charged my chevy bolt at home nightly,, i drove 1450 miles an only payed $63 bucks for one month

[@rommelreyes7616]

“Open b___hole” hahahahahaha. 😂

[@marcbee1234]

...good one!

[@vancity2349]

What is the difference between that and a J1772?

[@johnpoldo8817]

CCS refers to Combined Charging System. It combines a J1772 AC charging plug (5 ports at top) with a 2 port DC charging plug on bottom. The much smaller NACS Tesla plug achieves both AC & DC charging on one 5 port plug. IMHO, the North American Charging Standard (NASC) is much better due to its compactness.

[@Chukonu5]

It’s kind of silly to call it the “North American Charging Standard” just because Tesla changed the name a few days ago. CCS is clearly more standard 😝

[@wwecallofduty123]

To make it simple this will allow you to charge from 10-80% in around 15 mins the J1772 will charge 10-80% in around 4 hours(more or less). The CCS adapter is for trips and J1772 is for home or hotels.

[@johnpoldo8817]

@@Chukonu5 Did you know there are more EVs with NACS connectors than CCS in North America? CCS is much too big & heavy for the same function as NACS.

[@Lottoboi100]

As a person who loves universal plugs I understand why the major motor companys didn't want to use the Tesla plug because of intellectual property they basically would be paying Tesla forever until you know Disney Plus vs Netflix type thing

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Wunderbox! ☺️

[@morgdn]

charging has gotten way too expensive on the Tesla charging network. I remember when it was significantly cheaper then gas

[@wwecallofduty123]

Not everywhere it's definitely gone up by me but it's still no where near the price of gas. It isn't going to stay cheap forever since more and more people will need to charge they will increase the price to make more people charge only when they need to. Also inflation and energy prices have gone up a lot because we still rely a lot on natural gas to make the energy.

[@calijoe1074]

KJ the “frugal” Tesla Model X owner 😂

[@ddeboy002]

our model 3 gets 1050m/hr on the supercharger.

[@joggelweekend]

I thought this is standard on a Tesla???

[@beamerbread]

im pretty sure that EVgo achieves "100% renewable energy" via offsets.