Test drive RS4 B7 & RS6 C5 after repair, one car didn't make it.Issues with old sport cars $$$

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VAG Technic

VAG Technic

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@stevefairbanks835
@stevefairbanks835 Жыл бұрын
I was an Audi parts manager for 15 years and what really pissed me of is Audi’s lack of support for older cars, it’s disgraceful.. an idea for Audi fans is flood Audi Germany and social media with complaints about lack of support for older premium range cars, See if that has any effects
@marksinclair1173
@marksinclair1173 Жыл бұрын
I should add that I've owned the car for 11 years
@lutha1720
@lutha1720 Жыл бұрын
Had to let go of my s4 due to lack of parts and 2nd hand parts kept failing so I ended up selling the car as parts and they flew so fast even had two guys come with a saw to cut up the quarter panel ❤
@stevefairbanks835
@stevefairbanks835 Жыл бұрын
@@lutha1720 sad times!
@marksinclair1173
@marksinclair1173 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if I should sell mine. I love the car but I hardly drive it and the parts availability and the cost of the parts when you can get them is a concern. I recently priced out an oil cooler, I don't need one currently but I know they often need to be replaced. Dealer gave me a price of $4,300 Canadian, that's crazy
@stevefairbanks835
@stevefairbanks835 Жыл бұрын
@@marksinclair1173 you could bypass the oe and fit an aftermarket competition oil cooler, use a thermostat as well. It’s a hell of a thing to do get rid of your pride and joy. I could get parts here if available and ship if anyone is interested, would be interesting to find the price difference between USA/Canada and the UK
@sebastianlorenzo4935
@sebastianlorenzo4935 Жыл бұрын
Can we get a tshirt “so on & so on” 😊
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
:D ........
@Chilled_Mackers
@Chilled_Mackers 7 ай бұрын
@@VAGTechnic I'd like "Same, Same - but different."
@64and1
@64and1 Жыл бұрын
Had the issue of part availability for my c5 allroad 2.7 but I found out that audi sells parts for all the older models via their "Audi Tradition" site, brand new shipped directly from Germany. The dealer in Greece had no clue of that, thank god forums and Google exist!
@HookerJoeFire
@HookerJoeFire Жыл бұрын
Great to see this B7 back on the road. 40 hours of shop labor? That’s more than reasonable given the amount of work that was put in. I’d bet you guys have more than that in actual time. Great work as always.
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 11 ай бұрын
I agree the B7 RS4 was worth every penny TO ME!!!!!! My opinion just take care of car and have fun with them
@yellowjack007
@yellowjack007 Жыл бұрын
Great work guys , a big fan here for your work and dedication. Especially the older V8's , because i was passionate enough to buy one myself . I'm located in Istanbul , got a 99 S6 -4B with 4.2 N/A . Manual swapped it , tuned the ECU from Nefmoto and VCDS . In my 3rd year of ownership , already done the cam-chain tensioners and other bits and bobs like timing belt kit with pulleys and water pump . Pretty simple unless its a turbo. These engines are actually pretty rigid , clocked at 300.000 km , still measured 11 psi compression from all cylinders . Had to delete the variable intake diaphram due to the lack of parts. Re-wired the engine , but the mechanical torque is intoxicating . Also the automatic ZF5HP24A was 160 kg , and the 01E manual was 62 kg , the car now weighs 1630 kg. Which i must say is a handful. Sad to see the old A8 and A6 s lying around in Europe , but i thing the future is in manual swaps in these old cars . Reduction in radiator load , fuel consumption and weight . Cheers.
@pissamaikirkland7615
@pissamaikirkland7615 Жыл бұрын
Had an R/S 4 B7,was running fine.Went on holiday to Cornwall and things started to go wrong.Managed to get it running o.k then sold it and bought an M 4 .After watching this video,am glad I did.
@kashv2500
@kashv2500 Жыл бұрын
If its a f80 Get the crank hub done/get an inspection done if its and older m4 as they suffer from cam issues and turbo issues (later cars also have the same issues)
@JordzyBrev
@JordzyBrev Жыл бұрын
Upgrade the crank hub asap, if that spins engine rebuild and also rod bearings too
@durindragonsbane5548
@durindragonsbane5548 Жыл бұрын
Completely the opposite to a boring video, love the explanations, could listen to that all day 👍
@daveanspach9401
@daveanspach9401 Жыл бұрын
Struggling with this exact issue on my plain ol’ C5 S6 right now. Transmission oil cooler lines, fan bearing, power steering pump, coolant hoses….alllll NLA. If anyone has a lower rad hose (just the rubber end) 4B3 121 055 H laying around, let me know! Thanks for the video! Love your stuff!
@soklot
@soklot Жыл бұрын
Can't get a same diameter pipe and just make your own?
@stevebatt9643
@stevebatt9643 Жыл бұрын
THAT’S MY CAR.! No. 315/999. Well at least I owned it from 2009 to 2011. Great to see it’s still in excellent condition with just a few mechanical issues. There were only 57 UK RHD RS6 plus made. Well worth saving in my opinion..
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
we done our best to keep it alive ... almost bought it :D
@lanky512
@lanky512 Жыл бұрын
Given the length of time you've had it, I hope you have you been paid for work done so far. Keep the content coming!
@user-cb1so3oh5t
@user-cb1so3oh5t 4 ай бұрын
These cars will live you penniless 😭 but they’re so so worth it 🤞🏾
@danielcgomez
@danielcgomez Жыл бұрын
ouch on the Overheating B5 ...I think you guys should be fine regarding liability ...as you proposed to the owner to go with new OEM radiator, but he opted for some aftermarket replacement. I'm a little disappointed that the aftermarket radiator company didn't realize that there would be an additional pass in the OEM radiator due to the locations of the inlet/outlet ports being on the same side. The coolant would just straight-line to the outlet and not as you say take the long way around utilizing the entire cooling surface area. Thanks for uploading these video, very informative info for sure!
@ryanstewart3534
@ryanstewart3534 Жыл бұрын
Got to love a b5 😂I’ve got an s4 avant face lift, just fully refurbished underneath etc was only putting coilovers on 😅ending up new subframes front and rear now engine is out to change turbos an all gaskets 😂bug hey it’s worth it 🤦‍♂️love your content dude
@alanprice3524
@alanprice3524 Жыл бұрын
When you receive the new radiator place it face down so the exit pipes are facing upward and fill it with hot water, then use either a inferred thermometer or a thermal imager on the full radiator and that should give you a good indication of the water flow and heat distribution through the radiator.
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
Have laser one , all sorted now
@lavina58
@lavina58 8 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks 👍👌😊
@arvisgri7491
@arvisgri7491 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and story, really enjoyed it!
@iainatkinson9239
@iainatkinson9239 Жыл бұрын
The parts supply situation with Audi for older cars has been going on years, they really don't care not even for heritage stuff the Urq even 25 years ago they didn't care when parts for these cars went NLA. So now all the of the "newer cars" are going the same way, at least Merc and BMW do support older cars, your efforts to get both cars back on the road are outstanding btw, keep up the good work
@ryanchin9231
@ryanchin9231 Жыл бұрын
occasionally you get these so-called car repairs from hell. nice to see you still have your wits and patience .. i own a 2017 audi s3 and so far only replaced the waterpump and moonroof motor.. not cheap here in the states to replace but its a nice little daily driver. got enough power when i need it. glad to see your new videos. enjoy them very much.
@aqa321
@aqa321 Жыл бұрын
Such a shame Audi aren't providing a good parts supply on these aging RS cars. Surprising considering Porsche and Mercedes offer most parts on their modern classics (although usually expensive....).
@peterarries7879
@peterarries7879 Жыл бұрын
Great content, it's a nightmare when you get them stuck on the ramps eating into your revenue
@Mitaka80z
@Mitaka80z Жыл бұрын
Great work Guys, as usual! :) And yes, too unfortunate for the older-great cars, and the lack of support/parts for them! I owned a S6 C5 in perfect condition, but due to the possibility, that someone can hit me / the car, and there is no parts to repair it, I have decided to part with it ;(
@Johnny16781
@Johnny16781 Жыл бұрын
Top show again ,great job ,keep up the good work .and well done
@MyScotty7
@MyScotty7 Жыл бұрын
Professional as ever guys!
@bayleaf2366
@bayleaf2366 Жыл бұрын
I thought I had problems restoring Rs4 3 years to solve a problem Yes very hard to get parts Great video , customer must have heart like a lion patients off a saint and pockets as deep as Elon Musk My son says my audi must have been on every ramp in the country, , good luck to the customer and chin up 👍
@aukanmeister
@aukanmeister Жыл бұрын
I don't really think that was unreasonable for the amount of work that was done. You basically did a full renewal of the engine. At least the bits that are failing due to age like plastic, rubber and stuff. The owner can now be confident it will be good for many, many years.
@JordzyBrev
@JordzyBrev Жыл бұрын
People don’t realise about how much labour goes into cars and everyone wants everything done cheap, then blames the mechanic on something else that failed that was advised
@TypeTuber
@TypeTuber Жыл бұрын
When I had my RS4 w/DRC, I bought the DRC tool from snapon, even thought it would only be used for my car, by me. Partially because not many places had it but mostly because anyone who has it likely didn't now how to use it.
@rayaudi1813
@rayaudi1813 Жыл бұрын
hey buddy i love watching you fix audi,s
@mik15ful
@mik15ful Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they’ve stopped supplying OE parts too soon, we too have at our garage an RS6 C5 and a W12 D2 and the lack of parts is really a huge problem as there are no aftermarket parts for these kind of vehicles and you’d have to either manufacture it or improvise from other Audi parts. Shame to Audi for not standing behind their products as we owners do, other german brands still supply parts for their even older models, while Audi can’t do that for vehicles barely reaching the 20-25 years old mark. On to the cooling system of the RS6, i’ve owned 2 RS6 C5 both were driven in the Middle East and never had issues with overheating even at 50C and city traffic, the AC wasn’t that great when it was that hot but the cars never overheated, had a track-day with one one of them too and did great in that hot climate.
@expofcam
@expofcam Жыл бұрын
good work looking forward for the content to come
@paulaus
@paulaus Жыл бұрын
Audi needs a classic program to keep parts for these cars going.
@DarinNederhoff
@DarinNederhoff Жыл бұрын
They do have Audi Tradition but it pales in comparison to other German manufacturers in terms of parts availability.
@markthurston601
@markthurston601 11 ай бұрын
I saw an allroad 2.7 turbo for 1500 the other day in red aswell
@RV_59
@RV_59 Жыл бұрын
What a machine 👀
@chrispy104k
@chrispy104k Жыл бұрын
Is the exhaust flange stud decay (rust... whatever you want to call it) symptomatic of salt used on roads to limit black ice? or is it just a crap metal composition?
@Audifans555
@Audifans555 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Really informative.
@nikyclau3966
@nikyclau3966 Жыл бұрын
9 grand no f way just sell it for parts mate,by the way great video
@davidmccausland9063
@davidmccausland9063 Жыл бұрын
Super video.... really enjoyed it
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 Жыл бұрын
rs4 a hefty bill for an older car ,,, but its a lot of car . when you think of the years ahead its really not a bad investment , as long as you owned the car for a while first ,, if you had just bought the car and then had to spend that on top it would hurt. very well spotted on the radiator issue , ok , well diagnosed as the internal baffles couldnt be spotted but theres no way you should be responsible for that ,,, fingers crossed all is good as it didnt really get a big cooking.
@aaronhempy9906
@aaronhempy9906 Жыл бұрын
I have been a VAG technician for 25 years. I have a amazing c5 allroad which is a money pit but sorted. It's now summer here. It overheats at times. New heater core, plugged, which I have to back flush occasionally. New factory radiator. It still runs hot when I turn it off. New temp sensors x3. New afterrun coolant pump. New factory fan controller. After running pump and fan still no longer works? My wiring diagrams are confusing. Any ideas?
@billymania11
@billymania11 Жыл бұрын
It's obvious that Audi doesn't factor in long term ownership when designing their cars. I can't believe the size of those repair bills. Holy Cow! Seems like a good business to be in for you! ;-)
@chrispy104k
@chrispy104k Жыл бұрын
A mate of mine has a S3 hatchback Great fun to drive but I'm now questioning the long term reliability. He suggested I should get one. Needless to say given the kinds of stuff that fail I wont be walking into an Audi showroom any time soon.
@DarinNederhoff
@DarinNederhoff Жыл бұрын
Actual Use Devours Income. ;-)
@julianpalmer4674
@julianpalmer4674 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@Lordosvk
@Lordosvk Жыл бұрын
Helloooo welkome back :D
@chrispy104k
@chrispy104k Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, looks to me that the Limited Edition RS6 was a car that you should have avoided. But of course you don't know at the outset how bad things are going to be.
@grand04gt
@grand04gt Жыл бұрын
Here 40 hours of labour would be $6,800 plus tax so that was actually a lower price than i was expecting
@paulp96275
@paulp96275 Жыл бұрын
Had loads of radiators rebuilt or repaired cars vans trucks plant never had a problem my repairers will also tell you different prices for different cores ie budget against premium the cores are different tube diameter and the number of rows which leads to overheating if for instance you go for budget not saying this is the case but sometimes because of supply you encounter these problems Regards stuck on the ramp choose a time where the owner or the supplier has to decide how long you will be waiting (a reasonable time in this case) for the parts without it eating into your revenue then charge for storage but that’s business great vid sorry to say been there and got the T-shirt 👍👨🏻‍🏭
@MrLucasg60
@MrLucasg60 Жыл бұрын
i just did 3300miles trip in august in my rs6 manual,we've just back sunday night,530bhp and 800nm and i just love it,sadly after 5years i have to get rid of it due to ulez shit!Was thinking to get b7 but i had one few yeas back and its just too small and fuck me,soooo slow!!!Great video anyway,have u did any c6 rs6?Think it will be nice replacement in terms of power and space,but they dont look that nice,prefer c5 look.
@davidwilliamson2490
@davidwilliamson2490 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the content love the chanel
@markdouglas2035
@markdouglas2035 Жыл бұрын
Really don’t think I could’ve put 9k into that and then needing some more, think it would’ve had a thermal incident 😂
@vistkri
@vistkri Жыл бұрын
Good video!👌🏽
@1000hpwnd
@1000hpwnd 7 ай бұрын
can't find any update on rs6 plus how it ended
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic 7 ай бұрын
Put it back together, all good
@1000hpwnd
@1000hpwnd 7 ай бұрын
@@VAGTechnic thank you sir.
@Rdesemyfeet
@Rdesemyfeet Жыл бұрын
Hello. I have a 2007 B7 RS4 too with 83,000 miles. Is there anything I should do (besides oil changes) to prevent something like this happening?
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
Keep eye on the rattle on cold start up , otherwise good cars
@MikoYT123
@MikoYT123 Жыл бұрын
So how much money was RS4 work all in all?
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
Said in the video
@sebastiansever
@sebastiansever Жыл бұрын
I am urgently in question of where is my power steering pump on my 2007 s4 b7?
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
Behind AC pump bank 2
@hwntwww
@hwntwww Жыл бұрын
arent there better aftermarket kits for doing the timing chains- they use alu instead of plastic etc
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
No
@battleita
@battleita Жыл бұрын
Change the smoke detector batteries pls😅
@dannyandrews8930
@dannyandrews8930 Жыл бұрын
Wooooooooop
@titou6799
@titou6799 Жыл бұрын
Top ❤❤❤
@jabberwockytdi8901
@jabberwockytdi8901 Жыл бұрын
Someone who has skimped on the maintenance in the past isn't going to come up with the full budget to catch that all back now.......
@poowaffle
@poowaffle Жыл бұрын
You shoved that RS4 plates on the garage video...
@chrispy104k
@chrispy104k Жыл бұрын
Ah well, such is life.
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
I was asked to blur it in the video for the RS4 😀 done my best !
@DarinNederhoff
@DarinNederhoff Жыл бұрын
I wish Audi supported their classic models the way BMW, Porsche or Mercedes does. To Audi they are nice to use in marketing but they’d prefer you throw them away and buy a new Audi. Frustrating.
@kamilianos
@kamilianos Жыл бұрын
the definition of money pit ! At 130k sounds like it's a write off, while many cheapo cars just get broken in . Is that what PERFORMANCE car should be like?
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
Do cheap cars Rev to 8.5k and have 420bhp ?
@German-Whip-V8
@German-Whip-V8 Жыл бұрын
May I ask what your labour rates are?
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
80£ + vat
@German-Whip-V8
@German-Whip-V8 Жыл бұрын
That's very reasonable for the knowledge you have my local mot garage charges £60 and quite often they only want to do the basics. Oil change new discs and pads etc
@38skippers
@38skippers Жыл бұрын
Over $17k Australian 😵‍💫
@matteightytwo
@matteightytwo Жыл бұрын
20 years isn't old 😂
@Bet-vx3fg
@Bet-vx3fg Жыл бұрын
1:10 no animals on the road ? 😀
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
They are all dead because of the emissions from V8
@3DKLUB
@3DKLUB Жыл бұрын
RiP RS6
@pheatton
@pheatton Жыл бұрын
Never buy an old S or RS model….to much hassle.
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
Only old Toyta Aygo is cool
@huehuetrain
@huehuetrain Жыл бұрын
I have a 2008 s4 avant - yes it requires some maintenance dollars, but its a dream daily about town
@DarinNederhoff
@DarinNederhoff Жыл бұрын
We have a trio of early 90s S4s with the 20v turbo five. They are far less hassle than the models that followed.
@kirjbati
@kirjbati Жыл бұрын
hello,maybe you need audi rs6 manifold? i build the parts
@Ben-in6qh
@Ben-in6qh Жыл бұрын
Audi parts prices are absolutely shocking
@MrMoss786
@MrMoss786 8 ай бұрын
Fit a V8 Lexus engine😅
@jackos944
@jackos944 Жыл бұрын
why the hell would they stop doing just 1 of the timing chains 🤣
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
They almost kill the whole work on the C5 by stop making one thick O ring for pipe
@ianwarriner8193
@ianwarriner8193 Жыл бұрын
Well you've finally convinced me ! DONT buy an rs 4 b7.😮
@VAGTechnic
@VAGTechnic Жыл бұрын
😲 Why ?
@arvisgri7491
@arvisgri7491 Жыл бұрын
You must have thought C5 RS6 - had a crazy wish to buy one like 2 years ago. Glad I had some common sense and passed it. Then bought an Bmw m6 with V10 a year ago 😂😂 Knock on wood, has been running perfectly for the last 12k KM.
@JordzyBrev
@JordzyBrev Жыл бұрын
Reason there in that state people don’t get it done, they sell it on to someone else, then more problems happen
@German-Whip-V8
@German-Whip-V8 Жыл бұрын
Why do so many Audi's suffer from issues with their timing chains?
@marksmallman4572
@marksmallman4572 Жыл бұрын
heat cycles through the plastic chain guides over time , they fail.
@chrispy104k
@chrispy104k Жыл бұрын
Piss poor design decisions from the outset. They should have been made of aluminium with a plastic running surface. Would never have been a failure.
@arctics4
@arctics4 Жыл бұрын
RS4 doesn’t have this issue.
@stewills9711
@stewills9711 Жыл бұрын
On a limited run car, its no question it needs to be fixed. If not, i'll give him £500 for it broken and i'll get it fixed :)
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