Nissan Z Review - Impending Betterment - Test Drive | Everyday Driver

The Nissan Z has returned, and journalists are finally allowed to drive it! The car is no longer associated with a number - it’s simply the Z. Is Nissan’s strategy of improving their existing platforms working out for them, or would a fresh approach have been better for this iconic sports car? The guys trade off driving and assessing whatever is impending...
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[@ctk4949]

They made it softer, so they could come out with a NISMO version later. lol

[@beexiong2995]

How much you wanna bet they are gonna sell the nismo at 70k

[@verde629]

@@beexiong2995 nothing wrong with that. Especially if it’s most likely gna be the last nismo Z.

[@beexiong2995]

@@verde629 most Z buyers cant afford a 60k-70k nismo. Considering how cheap the base model is at 40k. Don't think a nismo edition is worth almost twice as much. One of the selling points of Nissan's marketing plan was that it's affordable. In the 90s, the Japanese sportscar died in America because of price and emissions. Plus that nasty 25 percent tariff

[@gabrielriley2388]

@@beexiong2995 considering the fully loaded price is 53k, 57-65 would only be reasonable if they make the nismo a straight up monster (50-75 more horsepower, better suspension and handling which they definitely held back on) This will definitely not be the last Z. (as long as it sells well) It will probably become a hybrid.

[@beexiong2995]

@@gabrielriley2388 isn't it weird that this Z is like a hommage to the Zs of the past? It will be the last gas Z. The next one will be an E-Z lol

[@gryphon123456]

Here's the thing..... Nissan has been in a bit of a bog of issues and they're not as prosperous as many of the other Japanese auto makers right now. To expect revolutionary might be a bit unfair. Given the fact they've even brought this car given the circumstances they're in right now I think is laudable. If they need to borrow from older parts bin to make this happen I think is not only completely forgivable but I think was the right choice given the scenario. Good job on this Nissan.

[@Tinrs80]

amen

[@easternequinox9324]

Couldn't have said it any it better myself. Given their internal issues it's quite the accomplishment to even manage to create this new iteration of their Z lineup. And it looks spectacular to boot.

[@HAFBeast91]

The 370Z is still an excellent driving car, and a good base to begin with.

[@jrzez]

Cannot see the value in this car from a performance, comfort, or drivability stand point. Compounded by the fact this car isn't new, with new tech, that just makes the value even less worthy.

[@dinosoarskill17]

as a nissan outsider, i disagree. i feel like just about everything they do except the gtr is a a half-attempt. but i've never really been a fan of nissans.. cheap interiors, not much to be desired.. my mom has always had armada's, titans, which ive driven a fair bit of growing up. families with sentras, altimas. theyve all been so grey and boring. one of my cousins had a 350z and it was hot inside, still cheap plastics and feel everywhere, and personally dont like that bubbly look. and my most recent nissan experience is beating a 370 nismo. (= i hope a friend gets this z so i race it as well

[@timephire]

Let us give thanks to the Nissan Z for forcing Toyota to put the damn manual transmission into the Supra!

[@jpwallach]

Except Toyota was working on the manual for a long time. If it was just the Z Toyota wouldn’t have it ready for this fall

[@gryphon123456]

@@jpwallach in that same note I feel the threat of competition like what was goi g to be in the Z put them on notice and forced development.

[@timephire]

@@jpwallach the Supra and the Z4 are the same car basically, the Z4 had a manual from the jump. Please stop falling for the nonsense, Toyota was going to wait for the last model year to release a Supra with the manual. They only did this because of the Z.

[@timephire]

@@gryphon123456 there was no forced development, the Supra and the Z4 are the same car. The platform is already manual transmission ready, please stop falling for Toyota (or any car company) nonsense. The Z forced Toyota's hand, they couldn't BS around any longer.

[@brianbohnet1907]

@@timephire "BS around?" You understand that the manual will make the Supra's chief selling point; acceleration, slower right? It's not like Toyota was sitting on some engineering secret weapon. They didn't want to make their car slower until someone else started chipping away at their sales. 0 supra owners asked for a manual. Civic Type R drivers fantasizing about buying a Supra, but could never, did.

[@TheTkpham]

There has been 35+ years of BMW M3's. People who care know them by their chassis codes, but to everyone else it's just the model year M3. I don't think people need to lose their heads over the naming of the Nissan Z.

[@joshuathompson8474]

The Z has most certainly been a GT car since the 280zx. The Supra has always been a GT car. The RX7 was the only one of the big three that was a sports car

[@judge831]

Have you forgotten about my MR2 turbo?

[@Unicornpirate]

NSX

[@sshah2545]

I can’t believe you guys are so down on the styling. I think it’s gorgeous. I love this car

[@necrotoaster94]

I've never been a Z person but I gotta admit this new one is very interesting. Also, I love how you make it a point to always show you guys switching seats and walking around the hood. Something very neat about that, like passing the baton to the next runner. 😁

[@AndreKaut]

Spent quite a lot of time discussing the appearance that is so subjective. Taking a lot of time to point out little details they don't like that others definitely do. For example, I absolutely love the hood design.

[@SnakeDoctor5104]

Some of there points were on point though. The rectangular front grille doesn't suit the car at all. They should have brought that into a modern design. They could have chosen something else from the original to incorporate, if necessary.

[@staydown4bo]

all i can say about any car is this. If it puts a smile on your face then it's a good car

[@KrisDelaPena]

I agree, a lot of assumptions on top of subjective stuff as well. Like assuming its the last Z bla bla bla. I mean, talk about the car and not your assumptions. Plus most cars pay homage to previous gens.

[@michaelmann5105]

I must be the only one that really likes the big rectangle as a grille lol. I like how simple of a design it is

[@formeitwastuesday.1515]

Me too. With all the new trucks having big ugly grills and cars having huge unnecessary honey comb grills. Square grill isn't bad looking. lol

[@fl5_driver]

Thank you Todd and Paul for your videos! 😁

[@pcthayer]

Executive commuter as the buyer? Bingo. I think you got it. Think it is a different buyer than the Supra since that seems to be more of a sports car than a GT-like car. (Also a buyer who may be 'up in age' that used to own the original Z's in their youth.) (I had looked at a new Supra and a salesman said "you're too old for that car"....don't think that is the case for the new Z.)

[@zzydrius]

Higher trim is for executive commuter, base trim is for tuner who will swap suspension, turbos and will need a spot for new turbo gauges. Nissan gave them round cut offs just like Toyota gave them fake vents. I think.

[@lotusupra]

💯

[@jameswilson8907]

I think you're right on the money, but at the same time I'm 27 and would pick the Z over the Supra. I'm at a point where I don't really care that the Supra is a bit quicker. The Z still has tons of power and fun factor and I'd rather take a car with a subdued throwback design over the mess of edgy "look at me" sharp lines and fake vents of the Supra.

[@CP-db4rm]

Would love to see a comparison against the Mustang GT and Camaro SS.

[@povertyspec9651]

He is right about the buyer. I am a middle-aged professional engineer who owns a 370 and loves it, and I will be buying one of these. I put HKS coilovers on the 370 and will likely do the same with the Z.

[@malcolmar]

Great review. I am so glad this car is here and in a manual. The real comparison for me is this Z in a manual or the Supra in a manual or even the Mustang Ecoboost High Performance with the Handling Package in a manual. I am past the whole "have to be the fastest 0 to 60" and want a good RWD car that has some power, performs well, and has a great 6-speed manual. Yes, electric cars are coming but what we have right now is pretty amazing and I am going to try hard not to miss out. I also agree they left some things on the table for the NIZMO version but as far as bang for your buck, this new Z is pretty solid. Thanks again.

[@rockcrawling43]

I like it much more than I expected it would when it was first feasted that they were coming out with another Z car. I like the blue color too. Nice review guys (as usual).

[@Saboda53]

Thanks for this review! Really makes me appreciate my MX-5 ND2 RF even more.

[@Dylanbforthree]

I love my RF ND2, the new BRZ/86 is the only thing that makes me jealous

[@freedomvan2970]

I've been waiting for this review for sooo long!!!

[@Justin-jo3ql]

Totally agree on the 300zx shape! It was stunning when it first came out! Still looking good today!

[@pininfarina575]

I'm not saying this isn't a good car overall, but it's just behind in times...53k... so it goes out the window the argument the z fanboys had against the Supra... even though they mostly parts binned this car from their parts catalog. sure it has a stick shift, but from other reviews, it's not a great manual... and even the auto for auto perf is significantly different (refer to ICONS lap times), although that may be due to Nissan's autos, no matter in what cars are pretty damn terrible, especially compared to the ZFs, maybe manual for manual will be more even... honestly I'd rather fork out a few more grand to get the Supra over the Z unless I'm already a fanboy. Like these guys say, I'm glad this is another option that is available still in this day and age... I recently sold my Mk5 Supra for something else, but that car had a great duality to it that the few $k over the Z "performance" package was more than worth it. in normal soft setting it was an amazing cruiser, and in sport mode, it was stiff enough yet the edges were rounded. and had even more gobs of low end torque. Plus the Supra, whether you love or hate the design, can't be denied the fact that it looks as exotic and more attention grabbing than most anything south of 150k. Nismo likely will be ~60k... and THEN it will be similar to the Supra in terms of perf...

[@restlessyouthproductions]

Nobody cares about a BMW when we're talking about JDM dude. At least Nissan didn't sell out and kept their heritage.

[@alanwatchesstuff]

if you watch a supra disassembly you will find a lot of plastics. sure they work and save weight but and they become brittle as they age. so I think the new z will hold up a bit better than the supra in the long run

[@davidballantyne762]

Great review guys! I am still not sold on the new Z's looks. Nissan nailed it with the 90s era 300zx and for me that is the best looking z - it still looks great today and better than the new one.

[@milesfathi]

You guys and Matt Maran were the only reviewers actually highlighting the fact that this car is set up too soft. Appreciate the balanced review.

[@jrzez]

Hagerty did a good job on this car I think. Unfortunately the Z is underwhelming or overpriced, your pick.

[@XenomorphLV426]

@@jrzez you really hate this car? Lol It's a $40k, 400hp rwd MT, true JDM sports car. Just add an LSD, tune and some sticky tires, and you're golden, even compared to the sports package. I don't think there is any car in the market that hits all those checkpoints.

[@ethinos2719]

It's weird. The 3 new cars I want are the two door Bronco, this new Z, and the Ioniq 5. Apparently, I just want retro styled vehicles.

[@Maelstrom8]

I agree. Likely because a lot of new stuff looks similar. Old school styles had more character to them.

[@pr0t0_39]

Those are the exact cars I want!!

[@najirban]

Ioniq 4 to me looks like some old Peugeot and ur Quattro blend

[@hoopofficial4371]

You guys spent allot of time “couching” your dislike of this car but It’s nice to see some objectivity. Great job as usual.

[@devambhagat3478]

Good and fairly evaluated review. The turbo speed shows the boost increase that happens after around 4k so it makes you enjoy the power more and not use it like a diesel car. It’s still gimmicky but kinda cool in my opinion.

[@JuanLopez-kw9of]

Considering the restraints and limitations Nissan designers and engineers were surely given by the company, I think they did a fantastic job with the new Z. With every car company tooling up for electrification, Nissan was not going to give its team a blank check . I am also thrilled they offered a manual ! Great review as always guys, your enthusiasm is duly noted!

[@crashn2me105]

Love you guys. May you have many more years of great shows. God bless you for making me smile every time with your enthusiasm and great friendship.

[@TestDriveVideos]

Thank you for watching!

[@johnnyperez3051]

Love the sincerity of this review.

[@beakersgarage383]

15:12 - Todd, I agree that new at $50K the buyer will be the city/suburb commuter. I think once you can get them used, it'll definitely be the track rat and the drifter.

[@jrzez]

Much better options for the money new, and likely used. This car is a fail.

[@andycalifornia426]

@@jrzez let me guess, BMW M2? An FWD POC Velosster N or Corolla GR?

[@ToneysReviews]

This car is trash on the track. They just compared it to the Supra in the track and it was over 3 seconds slower

[@gigi9467]

Track rat? Bro this is a 3600 pound gt car, brakes tires etc it be expensive and then theres is the reliability issue..

[@beakersgarage383]

@@gigi9467 the 350 and 370 weighed about that as well and people in the aftermarket have turned plenty of those into track cars and drift cars. That's why I stated "used." There is no way someone looking to turn a used one of these in 7-10 years into a track car is going to leave it stock. Reliability, again...I said used. No one can accurately predict the long term reliability of these cars once they hit 5, 7, 10 years old. Especially if the secondary owners start modding them.

[@mycitymyboston]

yes the target market is the new comer and those who used to drive the previous version. Stiff suspension doesn't do any good. Those days were over. I used t drive 240,260,280zx,300zx and now this is my joy. all the memories are coming back!!

[@reitsmaassociates]

Interesting that the new Z is very much linked to the 370z, and lets face it that was in reality using the very cool 350Z. I notice the the internal door pulls, the handbrake, electric seat controls to name but a few look to be a direct carry over from the 350Z! From back in 2003 . 240Z will always be the Hero, Z32 simply the best looking, the Z33 a modern affordable revelation at the time. Hard to say how the new Z will be remembered one day - like a music mix compilation a bit of all the Z’s , not really a revelation in its self. Having said that I am pleased Nissan did it. I am looking forward to seeing one in the flesh here in Australia soon. Thanks for the cool review guys -top job as always - cheers from Brisbane

[@EduardoSanchez-un2hh]

Let's not complain and just be grateful they gave us one last Z with a combustion engine, manual gearbox, and more power.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

yea but you can't please everyone, EVERYONE has to complain about something and they complain that its not up with the fake Supra

[@jrzez]

Was great meeting you guys in Philly at Radwood. Great vid. Summed up why I took the Z off the list. I don't see the value in this car. Why tune a "sport" suspension you pay for in a performance trim to be like this? The sport muffler isn't up to snuff. I do not see the value in a $10k trim package here. Where's the variable suspension at least? Look at what you get in the 1LE package on a SS Camaro, then look at this. You get adjustable suspension, Recaros seats, 6 piston fr/4 piston rear brakes, eLSD, real sport exhaust, HUD, short throw shifter, aero, more modes, better tires. For $7000. And... A decked out Camaro 2SS 1LE is slightly cheaper than Z even with it's price bump, and it will decimate the Z on the track and on the streets. Even Supra and Mustang has better value and performance. Beautiful car, but it's overall performance and value is not good. Nissan dropped the ball.

[@verde629]

Would love one in blue with a two tone red/black interior. I think that would look amazing

[@cosmic_gate476]

I saw footage of that exact spec before on KZbin, you might be able to find it. Looked bizarre to me but it definitely exists.

[@anthony221956]

I really like the styling and the fact that it recalls the original 240... of course I am old enough that I was just at driving age when the 240 was released.... at least the tail is not butt ugly like the current Corvette!

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

or FUGLY like the fake Supra

[@RickStarzz]

Great review, glad you point out about the “GT” feel. Lately it seems all the “sports cars” have that feeling. My 2013 frs literally had more raw feel than my 2020 supra 3.0 . I understand though as manufacturers need to make money I guess. Todd….Now that 300zx you have is something I’d take all day over the new z.

[@motormusique]

Maybe it's a good thing for the Z. I loved my FRS too but driving normally it could feel boring because the car barely leans and it's so unfazed. Maybe the Z would be more interesting in normal driving because it's softer and you can feel more body motions

[@AnonAnon-qi4ts]

Agreed. This should be reviewed as a GT car. The original was a front engined car mimicking the front engined gt cars of the day. The Z never changed the mission.

[@robbiegoff7713]

Comment on the suspension. I get the fact that a track toy should have a firmer suspension set up. But this isn’t a track toy. To me it looks like an outstanding GT car. There’s nothing wrong with that. The Nismo will show up in a few years and be amazing on track. I like the idea of the high speed GT car. Thanks for taking this car on the road. All the complaining track reviews are driving me crazy.

[@Martinez271992]

I didnt even know this channel was here!!! Sorry guys, subscribed 👌🏽

[@TestDriveVideos]

Glad to have you with us. Thank you!

[@TalismanPHX]

A beautiful car with elegant heritage styling elements. I'm just happy that the Nissan Z STILL EXISTS

[@odinikita4821]

agree so glad this car exist in a sea of mundane overweight fat ugly SUVs

[@jrzez]

Doesn't give Nissan a pass for over charging for the car.

[@AnthonyCessor]

While I think the Z32 is a great looking car, I still think the 240z is the best Z car design with the Z32 following right behind it, but I have to give props to Nissan, I think the new Z is the 3rd best looking Z car.

[@briangreene4277]

in order to sustain maximum performance - what is the best type & size tires to run on the 2023 nissan Z performance?

[@SkylineMMedia]

I love the Z. I own two Datsun 280Z's. One original 77 280Z and a restomod 78 280Z with an RB26det engine. I really love this new Z, but the new Supra is really growing on me. Im not sure which one to get, and I wish I can get both!

[@Darylrb1983]

Look at that center armrest lid opening and closing over bumps

[@dylanspencer1153]

Never really liked the newer 350-370 Zs but this one is just perfect. Reminds me of the 240… the Datsun so perfect. Great job Nissan. 👍🏼 making me want to buy one.

[@davecartwright4923]

Cammisa's Icons video briefly makes a case for the turbo revolutions speed gauge.

[@amandeep-qk3en]

It would be nice if you guys could review lexus es 2022 300h..cant wait to see it

[@chodkowski01]

This was a good honest review. It’s just a 370z with a new dash and body panels. The motor isn’t new. This car has been out for over a year already but why a delay in production?

[@TestDriveVideos]

This car was announced a year ago and got a big splash in press coverage, but no one drove them. The initial reveal of any upcoming car is around a year before they are actually available to buy. The first journalists who got to drive these cars only did it a couple months ago a few months ahead of them being available to buy. Thanks for watching and enjoying what we do!

[@flyinHI808]

@1:25 - DEM HIPS THOUGH!!!! I'm in love!! ;-)

[@HotGritz910]

The z sales to the masses and the masses dont want a hardcore canyon carving z. The z hasn't been hardcore since the s30... and even the s30 in the late 60's early 70's was sort of an gt car. That and price was the reason it sold so good. Nissan did what they have been doing since the 240z making a gt car.

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

They dont want a Z at all because there are better options.

[@HotGritz910]

@@Spiritcr1jsher not sure about that outside of the miata the z will probably be the best selling sports car.. I mean it's 40-45k for 400whp...

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

@@HotGritz910 its 50k for 400 engine power. Not rwhp

[@HotGritz910]

@@Spiritcr1jsher incorrect, the performance package is 50k the base z is 39,999...all z's come with the twin turbo 3.0 engine that's 400hp... your are correct the engine doesn't put out 400whp..

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

@@HotGritz910 You are not doing ANY sporty driving in a 400hp 2 seat without a limited slip, which is only available on the performance pack . Especially on shitty tires

[@ricepony33]

The take rate on the manual will tell you exactly who this car was targeted for.

[@jdmsnail2505]

can't wait to get myn I am on a waiting list with 2 people ahead I just want it now lol

[@jediggs]

i am hoping to get the base 41k model GT is just what i want my speed demon days are over but i want a fast car always!

[@teddyboo7843]

Revolutionary not evolutionary!! That’s what I’ve been trying to say! Exactly!! You guys know your Zs.

[@Timpala44]

I am a possible buyer. I had a 1974 Datsun 260Z in high school. I may just be trying to reclaim a slice of my youth if I get one. Hopefully without getting pulled over by the cops like I used to. 🤣

[@swanblake]

You guys absolutely nailed this review. Former 300ZX, 350Z, and 370Z owner and I'm A little let down by this "new" Z. I think because the 370Z was very similar to the 350Z and now the new Z is similar to the 370Z it just doesn't feel as special. Hasn't really moved on since 2003 and do something new. Couple that with its $50k price tag (have to have a lsd) and I'm not excited. No longer an affordable sports car.

[@TestDriveVideos]

Glad you liked Blake. Thanks for watching as always!

[@markjmaxwell9819]

We are lucky Nissan made this car. We get the performance model in Australia for much less than the Supra 3.0... It has grown on me since first announced. And of course the manual trans is a big bonus. I am sure a NISMO version will appear at some stage to keep everyone happy.

[@JBsC6]

While i prefer rear mid engine sports cars like the corvette this new nissan z is extremely well done. I prefer the 40 grand model as its very impressive with the twin turbo v6 producing 400 hp. The styling is exciting and the front reminds me of the original z car when modded to remove the chrome front bumper. The wheels fill the fenders nicely and the rear is clean. Not sure I like the chrome strip running so far back. I think the stylists call it a katana sword or something. Pretty sports car. Thank you for the insights.

[@Mushroomancer]

I been waiting for this one

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Excellent review

[@jacquesc3166]

Z33 HR hood bulge. You guys didn't mention the 350 when going down the list around the 7 min mark, just thought I'd squeeze an HR comment here.

[@wisruteb]

Maybe there’s a Nismo version in the near future that’s a little more hardcore?

[@timelapsega]

Finally they put some real power in, and I can't imagine how great these things are gonna be with a tune, downpipes and exhaust.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

My MKIV Supra gained 75 whp with just a high flow intake, front mount inercooler and full 3.5 inch exhaust with NO cats. I have not even done a tune yet. And that was with just 1 exhaust system, this Z has 4 cats (2 per turbo) .... So yea imagine both turbo's with NO cats and dual 3 inch exhaust systems ... Both filters are high flowing ... This Z starts its torque at 1650 rpm, with that free flowing exhaust on both turbos and higher intake flow, that torque will kick in even faster. I know on my MKIV that 1st turbo didn't really kick in until 3k rpm when it was stock but after the mods, i could feel it spool as quick as 2k rpm and spooled MUCH faster. They think its fast now and its stock, yea after some mods and a light tune, prob 550 hp ..

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

@@simonburkeisable i can care less about the weight, its not a dick size comparisson. Im not out racing everyone to worry about its weight or to be concerned about it being 400 lbs lighter. If weight is a concern, go buy the GR86 ...

[@aryaahmadi4029]

I still think this chassis peaked in 2007 with the 350Z HR. 370Zs have a tendency to overheat when driven hard for more than 10 minutes.

[@willadams8558]

I still love the stock wheels on the 370z. I think they would look good on the new Z as well

[@BobbyMcBobPants]

I think the car looks stellar. I’m 32 and couldn’t afford a z car until my late 20s and the 370 seemed like an over priced dinosaur. As someone who drives 1000 miles a week this seems like a nice cruiser. Unfortunately my in-laws all work for ford so the idea of getting this over a mustang would mean walks of shame for the holidays…still might be worth it though.

[@povertyspec9651]

370's overpriced? They started at 30K. Best bang for the buck out there. I upgraded the stereo and it has Android Auto. The car is awesome with some tasteful mods!

[@BobbyMcBobPants]

Overpriced for how old the car was at the end of its run. No doubt it was a killer car for the price and doubly so in the used market pre Covid.

[@alanwatchesstuff]

buy a used one? they are quite reliable

[@Victic005]

Should do a review on the sport trim $40k model.

[@tariqzraika2003]

You guys this is the same platform from the Infiniti Q50 , it’s meant to be tuned . Simple tune with e85 Youl be pushing 500-540 hp on stock turbo . This is meant to buy to tune and mod .

[@dickiemcgeezacks9458]

They talked about the firmer hardcore setting. It's easy. It's NISMO, and you can bet your ass that they're going to come out with one in a year or two. Possibly even a convertible, as well. Though not a convertible NISMO.

[@richard-mai]

"You don't buy a car, you buy a story." -that one guy from the other car channel.

[@tonymcflattie2450]

Sun or rev match? Take my money, love that feature

[@s14sr240silvia]

I’ll be trading in my 370 for this 100%

[@07wrxtr1]

$150 front swaybar would fix about 70% of the turn body roll.... I Put a hotchkis on my 370... totally fine.... Perhaps the new Z will need coilovers on top of that

[@tonyoliver2330]

Since the comment on this most likely being a commuter GT, can you guys opine and drive the auto version? I haven’t heard many talk about the Mercedes’ sourced transmission being good/bad

[@paulitik7]

Consumer Reports trashed the Auto on their podcast today, loved everything about it otherwise. Said it was a spongy old style auto, needs a dual clutch.

[@alanwatchesstuff]

the auto is actually made in Japan. they sourced it from Mercedes to put it on their titan truck funny enough. so ya the auto is a truck auto

[@James-dy6zh]

If you owned a Z...the HR hood is what everyone wanted....I agree the headlights look wrong tho

[@CarGuy87]

The NISMO top trim should improve the car by increasing road feel with slightly lower ride height, stickier tire, stiffer spring rates (hopefully magnetic ride), big sway bars and a louder exhaust. That would make it killer. Factory reliable performance.

[@SvenQ45]

Since money is a bit of a concern right now and a manufacturer doesn´t have to make a sports car since it´s a "flagship" for them and not that important Nissan did it! And for that we should be thankful. And it´s even a car many (not all of course) can buy. And now it shows that they want to build cars now again not just for the numbers...

[@johnguanci2316]

Swan song with a duck-billed pladypus? Nice color though.

[@bs11100010]

Nissan claimed it was a "dance partner" implying that it would be would more nimble than the supra while justifying its slightly slower 0-60. This doesn't seem to be the case. its just slower and softer than the supra. at 6'3" 250lbs - im not sure i'll fit in either of them. The Supra seems like a better sports car chassis/ engine wise. I like the looks of the Z more. not sure i'll fit in either of them. so ill probably be stuck in a mustang.

[@TestDriveVideos]

Keep in mind that both our guys are 6’3” as well. Thanks for watching!

[@bs11100010]

@@TestDriveVideos So I want to get a sports car within the next year or so. I was looking at the three mentioned above and also a used Porsche Cayman in the same 40-50k price range. Any recommendations Based on your experience.

[@AB-coyote]

Good tires would do a lot for the Z feel even if it is a little soft.

[@mrlong6267]

They should have used the same 300z headlights. Those were sick.

[@mattdirks7896]

I can't help but wonder if the 40K base model makes more sense than the 50K+ version

[@ethinos2719]

It does. The LSD is really the biggest draw of the performance package. However, even that can eventually be done cheaper in the aftermarket.

[@jrzez]

Top speed is limited in the base model compared to the Performance trim because the car is aerodynamically unstable, not just tires... Imagine that LMAO. Car is a mess. Looks fantastic, that's about it.

[@alanwatchesstuff]

two way clutch isn't that expensive

[@markthibault8579]

I've been looking for the vintage 240z experience in a modern car. I think the new GR86/BRZ does this better than the new Z which has become more of a pure GT car much like the Mustang GT. So, something for everyone, I guess.

[@jrzez]

Mustang, especially with Performance Pack is better than this Z.

[@andycalifornia426]

@@jrzez Sorry, I didn't know you've driven the new Z already.

[@Barbwire710]

@@andycalifornia426 the PP1 or PP2 mustang will murder this car in a straight line or on the track. Check the 0-60 times. Also see the Hagerty drag race where the mustang left the Z. Nothing wrong with wanting a Z, it’s just not going to be the fastest thing around.

[@tetispinkman9135]

@@Barbwire710 its more about feel and not about who is tHe FaStesT in line,,,that's sound like you are being 12 year old. Is that why you buy a car, to beat a neighbours mustang every tuesday after work, or a daily driver with track day capabilities

[@Barbwire710]

@@tetispinkman9135 paying 51k for a Z built off the 370 chassis is a bad value. That’s all. If you want to pay it and talk about the experience, be my guest. I don’t street race but I recognize value for money. Domestics (Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, C7 Corvette) and even BMW/Toyota are offering better value per dollar.

[@Dulanor]

Great review guys. Nissan clearly pulled out the parts bin special on this one and it shows in performance, handling, sound and build quality. To those who are true Nissan enthusiasts I would recommend the 370z with some coil overs and some bolt ons.

[@FallenArtemie]

The whole issue with reused parts from the 370Z...who's that really going to bother? A 370Z owner, for sure. But for some reason I feel like a lot of 370Z owners are attached to their modded cars and probably aren't looking to move on. And for new prospective owners, it's not like the old car was bad. Just old and needed a refresh which this one does nicely and makes it worthwhile buying the new Z instead of a used 370.

[@jameswilson8907]

Honestly a lot of the hate this car is getting is about things that anyone who actually works on or mods their car likes. Boo hoo the switchgear is the same, but guess what, when it breaks its going to be cheap to replace. Or all the fuss over not having adaptive suspension, yet a plain old strut is literally a fraction of the price of an adaptive damper and you won't have warning lights on your dash after swapping in coilovers. The chassis being a 370 also means there's probably already a decent aftermarket for it before it even releases.

[@phillipbranscum9369]

I have a 350z and have the same feeling that the seat is way too high. And at 5'9" I am in no way near as tall as you guys.

[@cayman9873]

You could use a low freq filter in a massive way

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

9:09 yea turbo speed ... WTF to that. And the voltage gauge ... another WTF to that. Should have been at least a wideband gauge and clock/date gauge

[@stevesosebee5860]

I like everything except for the headlamps !!!

[@thetacticalape8852]

If I could just get this nicer interior in my Nismo350Z... I still think it is the best handling Z.

[@Asifalirahman1]

It was a nice review but I think calling it 370.2 was unfair.

[@zedbets]

All the reasons why I'm leaning towards the base model. Gives me 10k to do wheels, tires, coilovers, LSD, brakes and aero. Make it mine and tuned the way I want. 40k for a brand new blank slate with 400hp and a MT sounds like a dream to me :)

[@AnthonyCessor]

The only thing I would keep in mind is I heard somewhere the top speed of the base model is limited because it doesn't come with the spoiler in the rear

[@zedbets]

@@AnthonyCessor You're correct, Performance spec has a top speed of like 155 and Sport is 126mph (something like that). Once I do the list above, I can do a few other mods and a tune, which I would do to the perf spec anyway. Someone getting in the ECU should be able to change or remove the limiter and with aftermarket aero I won't be as worried about lift :)

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

So buy it for 40k , to put in 10k and no warranty? Just buy the one that comes with it from the factory

[@AnthonyCessor]

@@Spiritcr1jsher This is a good point. A lot of people seem to forget cars have warranty and mods can make you loose that. Instead of spending that 10k on mods, save up another 10k instead and just put it towards the down payment.

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

@@AnthonyCessor Yeah exactly. Especially since lots of these aftermarket are not of the same quality as OEM. Or just buy a mustang or camaro. Both handle , accelerate, brake and are much more livable since they have 4 seats and a trunk.

[@powerboatguy2308]

It needed adaptive suspension and probably 40 more horsepower.

[@KrisDelaPena]

Last Z? Not sure about that. They could make an EV “Z” in the future. Number was displacement and its now a 3.0, so it doesn’t make sense from a nomenclature to go back.

[@joespittle1]

This makes me think about where Mazda is going to take the MX-5 RF

[@subnegro4946]

I had a feeling you guys would say something about the suspension. Most reviewers have noticed that this car feels way more GT car than the Supra plus it has a horrible balance of 57/43 vs 52/48 for the Supra. That's a lot of weight on the front axle.

[@jeffkelly9197]

Suspension mods are an easy fix. Most customers will get an aftermarket exhaust and springs.

[@Dulanor]

These comments are really getting out of hand.... Your solution to a 57/43 weight distribution is "an exhaust and springs" the density here is simply stunning.

[@jeffkelly9197]

@@Dulanor 370z can handle great with the aftermarket and it had a 55/45. I don't see why this is going to be any different.

[@chodkowski01]

Let’s be honest this is a 370z chassis.

[@AnonAnon-qi4ts]

All the sudden, the dated 49/51 C7 Corvette looks still relevant. That new C8 chased performance right down the boring rabbit hole. A comfy chair, lusty engine, 50/50 and a shifter for the street is where it's at.

[@corysekine-pettite1783]

Cool car, but too expensive. That's M2 territory (also 400+ hp and RWD). You could have a lot more fun in a GR86/BRZ for $30k or less. In fact, you guys HAVE a GR86. How about a comparison for livability and fun factor?

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

people that claim more fun in a smaller less hp car are the ones that don't have high hp. I have driven a GR86 and it was slow. But then again, my slowest car is 350 hp.

[@XenomorphLV426]

They sell GR86 for 10k? The base for this car is about 40k.

[@brucesuitt993]

@@ACommenterOnKZbin He is obviously talking about handling and the ability to take corners more so than straight line speed.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

@@brucesuitt993 and i am giving my input. not everyone is into turns and twisty roads, there are many people that enjoy the straight line speed and the GR86 and Miata are not for the straight line ....

[@Wicked_RotF30]

These guys have figured life out. Help us mere mortals please.

[@soccergolfball1269]

You guys call this a “not hard edged sports car” which I probably would agree with but can not be certain because I haven’t the new Z yet. The question I do ask though is what hardcore sports cars are left that have decent power(over 300hp) and cost in the $40-50k range?

[@ethinos2719]

The nearest competitor is the Supra. However, the 4 cylinder starts at $43,540 and the six at $51,890, which means the Z has an advantage on the pricing since you can get the base Z with the six cylinder for $40,015 and it already has a manual.

[@soccergolfball1269]

That is a competitor to the Z but it is still quite heavy and not as raw as many expect from a sports car.

[@ethinos2719]

@@soccergolfball1269 I guess I'm not sure what you are looking for. The only lighter options are either the Miata or BRZ/GR86 twins but they don't have the power. The only things with similar weight and power are the Mustang and Camaro which are similarly priced but are equally as heavy. The only more hardcore sports cars that aren't 'heavy' are things like the Cayman which is more twice the price of a base Z. Cars aren't cheap anymore and that includes sports cars.

[@soccergolfball1269]

I guess what I am finding is that either there are cars we both don’t know about or that there is a niche in the sports car market that hasn’t been filled. Unfortunately it may be the latter. I just don’t know why it is so hard for a car company to build a sports car with over 300 hp that weighs less than 3000lbs and is reasonably affordable.

[@jrzez]

Camaro SS 1LE will dismantle this car on a track or B-Road. And is cheaper than the performance trim in 1SS guise, and same price with more equipment in 2SS. The Camaro SS 1LE is a legitimate sports car. Mustang GTPP is even an option.

[@chrisstevens9686]

This is not a bad looking car, but Nissan made a huge mistake focusing on the 240 from a design standpoint when they should have focused on the 300Z from 1990 to 1996, that was the best design by far! The 350/370 was a step back from the 1990's 300Z and this updated version just doubles down on that mistake. The 300Z was more spacious inside, had T-Tops I just don't understand what Nissan is trying to do here? It's cramped, there's no T-Tops or Targa Top. I don't get it.

[@frbrbrgrblgrr7777]

I only think of one thing when I hear Twin Turbo V6. Single Big Turbo V6

[@MouseCIick]

they need a club z like mx5, but rip 2022 mx5 club