Tested: Jecod DMP “VorTech Clone” Flow Power & Capabilities

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

These are available on AliExpress, for about 1/3 the price of comparable VorTechs. Search term: “Jecod DMP” - always go with the seller that has sold the most units, as they’re generally the best option. Don’t hesitate to reach out, if further questions.

[@kreativ_corals]

ha! You'll catch me watching this long format content ANY DAY over stupidass tiktok! Thank you for taking the time to make quality stuff for us to consume.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I love to hear it. I fear we long-form folks are a dwindling minority in society, my friend 😂

[@josephposada1830]

Excellent tank and inhabitants. I'm glad to subscribe.

[@lpvplanet]

Thanks for the videos! Question - what are the dimensions of dry side for 10, 20, 30 and 40. Looks like no info anywhere. I want to see what size could fit behind my tank. Thanks

[@davidleach4689]

Excellent video

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Thank you very much.

[@SahinurUK]

I put a working MP10 and working MP40 into storage. Years later now im back in the hobby and get them out only to find they dont work anymore. Good to know i can still use the Ecotech wet side.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Pretty darn nice that you can do that!

[@leongao4724]

If the manufacturer sees your review video, they may launch a new version of the power head next month.😁

[@davechippendale8998]

Very informative, thank you. You have a new Subscriber.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Glad to have you! Thanks for watching.

[@KCYT2010]

If you want to demonstrate flow use a baster to pump some air into the powerhead. The bubbles will give you a pretty good display of the pattern.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Tried it! It chopped the bubbles TOO fine, and the camera didn’t pick it up very well.

[@gencoupe3.8]

Been following the series. The pumps appear to be a true clone. That flow is no joke

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

It’s wild. Hardcore clone action!

[@rickcowen5389]

Wow. Now on my list to buy

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I’m very happy with it!

[@THEFIFTHDIMENTION]

Glad to know they are finally making clones. Vortech has been so expensive since it started.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I am quite pleased about it!

[@THEFIFTHDIMENTION]

@@kalamazoo_reefer would you advise using an dmp10 or 20 for a 20g cube? Is the 20 too strong?

[@Pontiuspilate666]

I'd totally get one dmp 10 and that'll be enough flow ​@@THEFIFTHDIMENTION

[@Hozay1]

Perhaps using AB+ to give a better visual for the flow? Is there a “mp60” model for this jecod? Thanks for the video.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Not enough familiarity with AB+. I did what I could lol. I think the DMP-40 falls between MP40 and MP60 strength, at the top end of its power range.

[@estebanjc1]

Yes. To visual flow 😊

[@lovermansmith9082]

​@@kalamazoo_reeferMaybe air bubbles . Try a turkey baster full of air 😊

[@WTBMrGrey]

​@@kalamazoo_reeferYeah Red Sea AB+ is great for showing flow and its great for corals.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

@ I used it in my follow-up flow test video!

[@lovermansmith9082]

Cool , good review . These pumps seem cool . Depending on the tank , seems you may be able to hide them pretty good on the back behind rocks 😊

[@GwonkReefkeeping]

I'm very intrigued. Do you know if the pumps are capable of alternating the current off another DMP if you have multiples?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

That’s my next investigation! Learning all the app capabilities now. Stay tuned, friend!

[@scottallan6770]

When you look at a tank you see ALL of it, which includes anything hanging off/on the outside. I personally think the huge dry side is a serious eye-sore. Just my personal taste but... 🤷‍♂ BUT for a non-main display that needs some good flow, then okay. I love my Neros. Thanks for doing this. Always good to know what's out there, especially what's competing against the big boys.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I agree. But I think the easy cleaning of the wetside tipped the scales for me. I hate the dang wart on the glass, but…the easy factor is definitely enticing.

[@pand2aren]

oh shieeet so they cloned vortechs, thx for video, will try to order a gift for my self :D

[@DyskoPotato]

Have you tried the Geyer version of them yet? Considering adding those with these. Love that there is a MUCH cheaper alternative!

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

The gyres? Yes, I have run them. They work just fine for me!

[@derrickl5032]

I have a 120 which I assume yours has 1/2 glass as well. I had a hard time getting both sides aligned as they don’t suck toward each other like the mp’s do. Have you found an easier way to align them?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Are you using a DMP-20? I had no issues. I just eyeballed it and stuck it in place, and it ran very quietly for me.

[@israellaws2178]

@@kalamazoo_reeferis it suction cups on the wet and dry side with no magnets?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

@ Suction cups + strong magnets.

[@israellaws2178]

@ thank you sir!

[@Freakinfrog]

That’s a good thumbnail

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Hardest I’ve ever tried on a thumbnail LOL

[@roryfirth76]

Is the 20 the equivalent size of the MP10?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

@@roryfirth76 Yep!

[@TheVapSter]

What % did you have it on during the visual? Thanks

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

100%

[@TheVapSter]

@kalamazoo_reefer thanks for the quick reply. I think I'm going to try a pair of the 30s out.

[@tedblack2163]

The flow is impressive, now i have to wait for my mp10s to give up the ghost.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Haha, well, you can use the MP10 wetsides with a Jecod DMP-10. That has been confirmed.

[@gomisreef]

No issue with the length but not sure that pellet thing did much to tell us about flow cone. Redsea AB energy was suggested by others

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I work with what I got. Cone seems relatively narrow, in line with my experience with a VorTech MP10. No extensive experience with Reef Energy, didn’t trust just dumping that stuff in the tank.

[@gomisreef]

​@@kalamazoo_reefer no comment 😂

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Are you joking about ammonia right now? Lmao. I don’t know enough about it to just pour it in, in what feels like a relatively high amount. I’ve heard it can make the skimmer go nuts and such.

[@islandreef5292]

Hoping these can get on some reefing sites or eBay at the least for Canada seems Ali express wants $50 shipping atm

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

O Canada! O….Canada. I think that’s a song. Lol.

[@islandreef5292]

@@kalamazoo_reefer hahah I’m new to Ali express but just found one for $175 with free shipping. Assuming that’s legit with 100+ sold

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

@@islandreef5292 As long as it has a good number of “units sold,” you’re good, pull trigger. Usually it shows how many units sold from each “seller,” and you can gauge the realness from that. A seller with higher units sold, against the other sellers = legit seller. Just saw your 100+ sentence. Yes. It is good to go. Lmao.

[@PrivateSalty]

Not on topic of Wavemaker (actualy this is what got me here) but I noticed you have Gobies and a Tomini Tang. Did you notice his aggression towards Gobies? I have Yellow Watchman do would get a Tomini but I'd hate make his life miserable with this purchase. Nice videos and tank btw :)

[@gearbudget]

How wide is the flow pattern compared to say your Nero pumps? I appreciate the videos on these, you’ve got yourself a new sub. Getting ready to get back into the hobby soon and I’m looking forward to saving some cash on these!

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Thanks for that, friend! They’re narrower in flow pattern than Neros. The Nero throws wide, but lacks range, I’ve found. This thing has zero issue with range, but has the same relatively narrow flow pattern as a VorTech MP10 or MP40.

[@gearbudget]

@@kalamazoo_reefer thanks for the reply!

[@theeastcoastreefer]

Can they be connected to Apex like the original MP series? I'm guessing not but you never know

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

No, they won’t be able to be. I personally think it’s good to not have absolutely everything connected to a single point of failure. I once lost connection to my Apex while on vacation, and it resulted in a massive tank crash because I had everything run through it. Now I de-centralize stuff like lighting, flow, etc, so if the Apex fails, it’s not taking down all my critical systems with it.

[@theeastcoastreefer]

@@kalamazoo_reefer I'm a bit lazy, I just want to find everything in one app, not fussed if its just an app that ties everything together or if its something like apex

[@johngraves2185]

Nice!

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I know it’s not as good as those pros with coral farms and studios, but I did my best. Ha.

[@youronlycow]

Thanks for this video! Would you recommend a Jebao return pump, or pay sky rocket price for eco tech

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I have stupidly paid up for expensive gear in the past, when it comes to pumps. Never again.

[@christophercrawford8237]

I have 4 Jebao return pumps running on 3 different systems. My oldest one has been running continuously for over 5 years now with no issue. Just make sure you maintenance them regularly and they are great pumps.

[@midwesttoken3d]

New to the hobby and working on setting up a 47gal aio tank. Which unit would best suit a tank that size? The 10 or 20

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

You could probably get away running a couple of 10’s at higher speeds, but my inclination would be to get a couple of 20’s and run them at lower speeds. Don’t hate me if my thoughts end up being wrong. Ha. But I always prefer buying slightly more powerful gear, and running that gear lightly, as opposed to cranking on smaller gear models.

[@midwesttoken3d]

@kalamazoo_reefer makes sense to me. Why over work something when you can go next size up and let it work less

[@amansreef]

How many gallons is thay tank? Thanksnfor a great review

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

It’s a 110 gallon reef system. Thanks for watching!

[@nanoreefpatrick8715]

How long is the motor outside?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

@@nanoreefpatrick8715 A hair over 2.5 inches on the DMP-20, I believe.

[@nanoreefpatrick8715]

Thx

[@MorningsideMotors]

Waiting on my 30 to get here!

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Nice! I’m thinking I should’ve ordered the 30. Lmao. The 40 is starting to intimidate me. I’ll be turning it wayyyyy down 😂

[@MorningsideMotors]

@@kalamazoo_reefer after watching this the 30 seems intimidating to me, so we will see!

[@Mfed81]

Where is the best place to get this wave maker??

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

AliExpress. Search term: Jecod DMP. Go with the seller that has sold the most units.

[@lpvplanet]

Finally cheaper alternative, I can’t believe!

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Lol I know, right?

[@Mark-hb2zy]

I wish you could limit the power in random mode, it's been my one frustration with jebao pumps

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Now that I look, I do see that there’s no random mode limitation. Huh. Seems an odd oversight.

[@Mark-hb2zy]

@@kalamazoo_reefer it's the same with all their WiFi/Bluetooth pumps. I have DLW 10 pumps in a 2ft cube. The 20 pumps are too powerful in random mode and the size 10 are underpowered for a 2ft cube. So I've got one 10 on 100% and the other on random then a hyger which is about in-between the 10 and 20 on random as well. If you could only limit the random power 2 20's would be fine. I'd be interested to know if the dmp 10 will be more powerful and my dlw10 as they might be a better fit

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Looking into this.

[@ReefingRyan]

Would you be able to share your Reefi uno 2.0 light settings? I have three I am trying to fine tune and I like the color on your tank

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

All channels 100%, is how I run the ReeFis. But you’d need to pair them with Quanta Pro “Tropic Sun” bars, to get the effect I’ve got happening with my lighting.

[@devachapman6315]

what mode was the test in? a reef crest type or consistent flow?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Constant flow mode! Wanted it just continuously cranking. Great question, I should’ve addressed that in the video.

[@travisclements1032]

Is the DMP 20 too much for a 40 Breeder (back to front)? I want to run 2 but not anywhere near full power. I'd rather go a model up (20) than run a DMP 10 near capacity. Longevity and noise are why.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I bet it would be just about right. This test was at 100%. So you’d just back off that high point until the flow was where you want it, and have plenty of power to spare.

[@tedfisher1396]

Show the app in detail

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

@@tedfisher1396 I did Ted. Posted the video yesterday.

[@fouziamazhar5161]

Where’d you buy it from? Please share

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Sure! I’ll pin a comment for others. You can buy them on AliExpress. Search term: Jecod DMP. Go with the seller who has sold the most units, that’s the best one always.

[@billssaltwaterheaven]

Yea, thats alot of flow for a cheap pump 1/5th the price of Vortech. Now next is how long they last?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Oh, these are a wild bargain, and appear to be solid as hell (longevity to be determined, of course). But from what I see, the MP60 throws up to 9,000 gallons per hour. The Jecod DMP-40 (largest variant) throws roughly 5,300 gallons per hour. So the DMP-40 will have a slight edge on the 5,000GPH MP-40, but that MP-60 is still out there in the lead. My guess? They release “the big one” in a few months, after seeing the success of DMP sales.

[@philthyphill8753]

So I have two mlw30 running at 35 percent. Do you think I should stay with two dmp30’s or go down to two dmp20’s ?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

@@philthyphill8753 Hmmm. I’d get the closest match to the MLWs in terms of top end flow rate. Check the top end flow rates for the DMP20 and DMP30, and roll with the closest match.

[@philthyphill8753]

@@kalamazoo_reefer yea I never turn my 30s high. Always at its lowest setting. So do you want room to lower even more or bottom out right away. My tank is all softies.

[@barelyreefer]

Are you starting to enjoy the frankenstein look? 🤔

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

No. Lol. But I am beginning to enjoy the thought of cleaning my wetsides with incredible easy. I hate pulling my Neros out to clean them, dealing with cords and magnets, ugh.

[@barelyreefer]

@@kalamazoo_reefer just giving you crap! I have a nano 20g IM with mp10's on opposite sides 😁. Keep up the great videos!

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Hahaha will do, friend!

[@Lookingglassaquarium]

Use some coral snow to show the flow

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Don’t have a reef store here, and have never used coral snow before. Did what I could. Ha.

[@jacbuc1]

Is the DMP 40 the equivalent of mp40?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

It’s actually a bit stronger in top end GPH, I believe.

[@jacbuc1]

@@kalamazoo_reefer thank you, keep the videos coming

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Always! Doing my best to get these out to you folks. The hobby has needed this product for quite some time.

[@audiomanmik]

What's the tank dimension.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

It is a 4 foot long tank.

[@audiomanmik]

@kalamazoo_reefer okay, thanks for answering. Been waiting for this for literal years. Lol. Powerful and ease of use with the app.... about to get a few

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

@@audiomanmik Oh me too man. Me too. Seeing ETM challenged on the flow side has been LONG overdue.

[@audiomanmik]

@@kalamazoo_reefer I mean, I have been waiting for Jebao to clone these for years. Seeing how well it performs and has app control. Which is no surprise with jebao. I am ordering a few right now. I love the jebao app. It is so simple...

[@smeshfactory3992]

​@@kalamazoo_reeferWhat tank is that?

[@belings]

What is the gph on this pump at 100%?

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Roughly 2400GPH, or 9000LPH.

[@belings]

@@kalamazoo_reefer so, that’s less then a vortech mp10. MP10 is rated at 9500LPH. I love the Jecod return pumps. But i think i will stick to my MP40 for flow. I’m looking for extra pumps for my sps dominant tank.

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

SWA lists the new version of the MP10QD at 1500GPH, and I saw another vendor list it at 2500GPH, so I’m not sure. Regardless, I’d expect this to be very nearly in line with that power level (the higher MP10 flow claim).

[@aronjanssen5702]

The dmp40 is WAY stronger

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Correct! It’s a beast.

[@MangBentot]

Vortech pump price$ could buy me a decent 12" subwoofer😁 just to show you how they are milking you guys!

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

I’d love to know the actual production cost of an MP40. Lol.