Testing 3D Printed Resins: Is Water Washable Better?

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Rybonator

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Water Washable resin prints are far more convenient than alcohol resins, but do they sacrifice in the quality department?
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@lemonexhaustion8525
@lemonexhaustion8525 3 жыл бұрын
“Thiccness equals quality” a man of culture i see
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Mama raised me right :)
@arthurkassardjian5172
@arthurkassardjian5172 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rybonator jokes aside, higher viscosity does not necessarily mean better quality. The oligomers are the most viscous components of a formulation and in theory, the more oligomer you have, the better the mechanical properties you are trying to achieve, however the viscosity must be low enough to make it printable. There's also a myriad of oligomers available on the market, from high molecular weight to low molecular weight, from high viscosity with average properties (cheaper) to low viscosity with superior properties (specialty material), so it's not a linear relationship between formlation viscosity and overall quality of the resin. Which quality are we considering? Mechanical properties? Printability and visual aspect? There's too much to factor in to simply summarize everything with "higher viscosity = better quality".
@evanb.5726
@evanb.5726 3 жыл бұрын
@@arthurkassardjian5172 nerd
@arthurkassardjian5172
@arthurkassardjian5172 3 жыл бұрын
@@evanb.5726 you're welcome
@FoxSock
@FoxSock 11 ай бұрын
@@arthurkassardjian5172could i add oligomers to resin ive bought to change the properties?
@realhyrulesoverlord
@realhyrulesoverlord 3 жыл бұрын
He's baaaccckk. Hope all is well bro❤
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend :) good to be back!
@ryanadams0922
@ryanadams0922 3 жыл бұрын
The Miniatures after taking a pounding from a hammer "I didnt hear no bell"
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
I want a Randy marsh barbarian miniature now
@ryanadams0922
@ryanadams0922 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rybonator that would be awesome DO IT!
@simon-patrickjohnson
@simon-patrickjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rybonator next video maybe
@CrowsNest05
@CrowsNest05 3 жыл бұрын
“I don’t have any scientific tools” what are you talking about?? Hammers are SUPER scientific!!
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Nye would agree! :)
@BasilHerb
@BasilHerb 3 жыл бұрын
For the Alcohol, I would genuinely suggest pouring it through a fine filtermesh AFTER curing the "vat" of Alcohol. That way the resin inside is sortof cured and gets caught by the filter. It saves so much money. The muck that is left on the filter can then be disposed as per your country's guidelines.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely filter the resin off when I out it back in the bottle :)
@mumbles47455
@mumbles47455 2 жыл бұрын
Nice idea! I will try that.
@mumbles47455
@mumbles47455 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rybonator He means to hit the alcohol bin with some uv to cure the resin mixed with the alcohol and then filter it to get back some of that alcohol
@kennethdavis1628
@kennethdavis1628 2 жыл бұрын
I use a normal degreaser (Mean Green) - but then I rinse in clean alcohol, it helps evaporate the left-over water and removes whatever stuff was in the degreaser. The actual amount of alcohol is then greatly reduced.
@ashchan30
@ashchan30 Жыл бұрын
Nice advice!
@Verity_Reigns
@Verity_Reigns 3 жыл бұрын
Watching you damage and break minis pains me but I understand sacrifices must be made for science. Great video! It’s always interesting to see how much you’ll do to test things and help us learn.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help learn new things if it means I get to smash stuff :)
@kirajones1650
@kirajones1650 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say these were some pretty scientific tests you don’t need them fancy tools It was actually pretty interesting to see how they all compare, I’ll have to send to my dm since he dabbled in 3D prints
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Science is using home depot hammers now! :)
@DimT670
@DimT670 3 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair these are chunky solid minis i wouldn't imagine a delicate elf bladesinger mini would withstand the fall or the hammer unscathed
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I am sure. They are also hollow, so I gave them a BIT of a pass on that end. But you are right :)
@DimT670
@DimT670 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rybonator even hollow they have more material than like 80 precent of my miniatures of that scale
@ethanpercival216
@ethanpercival216 3 жыл бұрын
It amazes me every time I have a question about resin 3D printing, Rybonator comes out with a video about it the next week.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just looking out for my boi Ethan ;D
@craigchatterton4164
@craigchatterton4164 9 ай бұрын
One video I'd like to see you do is: How often do you level your baseplate? Do you relevel after every print? Wait until a print goes bad? Or a specific time frame? How often should it be done?
@A.Achorn
@A.Achorn 3 жыл бұрын
Does he not realize 99% rubbing alcohol evaporates at room temperature? "Disposal" could be the exact same if he just left out his dirty alcohol in a waist container. While I do get you are still buying something there's a few ways to make it 10x easier. My first two suggestions would be a magnetic mixer they are like $20 and include a magnetic pill you put in your alcohol. Second don't scrap your prints off until they are done being rinsed. Make or print a mount to hold your build plate suspended in the alcohol. Set a 3min timer and you can walk away. When you come back they will be rinsed and ready to be scrapped off and put right in your curing chamber. Bonus tip fill a small spray bottle with alcohol, spray everything off right after removing it from the printer and before you put it in the bath. A prerinse will make your main alcohol last quit a bit longer! Love your videos Rybonator just some tips on alcohol use. Its actually pretty none toxic, as long as you don't drink it ;), do to its low evaporation point. I consider it a must have when working with glues and resins just for cleanup but I'll definitely be giving some water washables a try.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
These are great tips! Honestly don't know why I didn't think to just let it evaporate haha :)
@A.Achorn
@A.Achorn 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rybonator We all have those moments! I've got to thank you for your 3D printing videos to btw. I've been an avid FDM printer user for a while and just got a Resin printer for even better minis and mold masters. Your video's on supporting dice and even more so your free use models are invaluable it was near impossible to find a free set of RPG dice!
@aaronbono4688
@aaronbono4688 3 жыл бұрын
I'm rather disappointed with this video because my experience with water washable resin is vastly different. First of all it's incredibly caustic. I had some water washable resin on my hand and didn't realize it and by the time I did it had eaten through several layers of skin to expose red flesh underneath. I have never experienced anything like that with regular Elegoo gray. Secondly, water washable resin absorbs moisture from the air and will bloat, warp and split. At least 80% if not 90% of the minis I printed with water washable resin were ruined within a week because I live in an area with fairly high humidity. No one mentions this on any of the videos and it's hard to find any information about this when searching online.
@tyvanbor3140
@tyvanbor3140 3 жыл бұрын
I have had no issues with it being caustic, with any of the Elegoo resins actually. But I have had 2 split. Both were hollow and were not cured on the inside. So I only do hollow prints if I can put in a hole large enough for my UV flashlight.
@tympestbooks1727
@tympestbooks1727 3 жыл бұрын
It occurs to me that this makes 3D printed minis seem a lot more sturdy than I'd been lead to think. Glad of it too, I've found some I wanted to get printed to paint but I was worried about damaging them
@charleyedwards2121
@charleyedwards2121 3 жыл бұрын
Phrozen makes a line called "Aqua". its not water wash resin but with a simple rinse in alcohol they clean wonderfully with soap and water. cool test ps get a new thumb drive. those white ones they give you will start corrupting saves sooner or later.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Oh good to know! I'll try aqua and a new thumb drive haha
@MidwestGuru91
@MidwestGuru91 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, anymore I only go with higher quality resins. Blu from Siraya Tech being my go to. Before I switched over, I was finding I was having way too many issues with warping and bed adhesion. After the switch, I don't think I've had a single failed print in over a year. Pair that with a wash/cure station and clean up is quick and easy.
@andon_RT
@andon_RT 3 жыл бұрын
Water Washable does tend to have a lot more issues with silicone, so it's not great for dice in addition to it being worse for sanding.
@Luuurble
@Luuurble 3 жыл бұрын
i saw mimics and immediately got excited
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Or was it just an ordinary treasure chest ;D
@markwilliams5654
@markwilliams5654 3 жыл бұрын
Water washable is softer and the supports snap all the time ....I don't like it
@e.p.p.a6248
@e.p.p.a6248 3 жыл бұрын
For the love of God you beautiful man please just get some Wham! Bam flexible sheets. You’re killing me with those scraping techniques.
@billcypher564
@billcypher564 3 жыл бұрын
i don't know why but those snapping sounds were surprisingly pleasing
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Right? I could snap resin all day.
@pierrickbramberger4206
@pierrickbramberger4206 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know what ur protocol is for reclaiming ur alcohol but I hope this still helps. After collecting the murky alcohol i would set it out in the sun and wait for the resin to fall out of solution. Then instead of directly filtering it i would first decant or siphon the relativly clear alcohol of and leave the muck behind. If u are filtering the alcohol i think this step could be quite handy because the sludge can clog ur filter and then it would take ages to filter through. Then if u filter the sludge maybe a coffe filter, if its still realy cloudy just add it to the next batch if decanting and for the relativly clear alcohol maybe try something finer like a funel with a long neck which u can stuff with cotton on top activated carbon or charcoal and on top of that some more cotton or just another one or two coffe filter. Now u have hopefully some clear alcohol but also some wet sludge and also moist filter papers, other equipments u used here and maybe also some wet filter charcoal and cotton. To reclaim the alcohol from these i would first whipe everything drenches i alcohol down and put these wipes and all the other stuff ecxept for the equipment, which now should be just normaly washed and dried, into a small dark container without a lid, which then can be put in a clear container with a lid. When u put this into the sun the alcohol should vaporise and condese on inside. To help this process u could cool the top of the container with water open to the air and create a spot on the inside of the lid for the droplets to collect and fall into a second smaller clear container or just directly to the bottom. Also its important that the drops dont fall back into the black container so even if dont use the second one, knowing where the alcohol collects is quite important. I should probably also mention that u dont want pressure to build up and to keep it away from sources of ignition. U pretty much have a vessel full of air and alcohol vapor which can explode if egnited. The pressure that builds up before a container burst is essential to the power of an explosion so yeah if u wanna play it safe use plastic wrap as lid and maybe leave a small hole near the rim so u can still put water on top of it. Dont trust me, im just a nobody from the net :)
@Flarecobra
@Flarecobra 3 жыл бұрын
*Sees the "Tiny book mimic" figure, gets flashbacks to Ragnarok Online and their Rideword enemy*
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
WE ARE HERE TO TORMENT YOUR MEMORIES :)
@baironmoreno9766
@baironmoreno9766 3 жыл бұрын
thanx a lot for your time makint the video, gracias
@aaronbono4688
@aaronbono4688 3 жыл бұрын
I use mean green super strength for washing minis and it works great and it's much cheaper than isopropyl alcohol. I use isopropyl alcohol to wipe things down but I use it in very tiny quantities and mainly because it evaporates and leaves no residue so it's great for wiping down the build plate before doing the next print. About $10 in mean green cleaner last me a couple months and the seven and a half dollar bottle of isopropyl alcohol lasts me three or four.
@Cerena06
@Cerena06 3 жыл бұрын
What about drop tests for minis with little details? Since my minis seem to most suffer from me accidentally knocking them off tables, heh....
@elysapethsmith8505
@elysapethsmith8505 3 жыл бұрын
I neither make dice nor 3D print with resin...why am I so addicted to this channel?!? Welcome back!!!
@3DJapan
@3DJapan 3 жыл бұрын
2:43 To be clear, you don't HAVE to use alcohol. Other cleaners work as well or better. I use Simple Green. It's cheaper, safer, doesn't smell as bad, and you can save the alcohol for medical purposes.
@crowdemon_archives
@crowdemon_archives 3 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, those are way easier to obtain too
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I say you CAN buy other materials, but I have not experimented with those, so I kept it out of the vid. But you are totally right :)
@chrisjohnson6617
@chrisjohnson6617 3 жыл бұрын
Try cutting Siraya Tech Tenacious with ABS like Resin. It's pretty expensive but if you only use a 10-20% ratio than the price difference is not much and it adds a lot of shock absorbance.
@foolish_ahmya
@foolish_ahmya 3 жыл бұрын
I've printed hundreds of minis and washed them with soap and water just fine
@MLaak86
@MLaak86 Жыл бұрын
I started with water washable having struggled to find any IPA in anything like reasonable prices for the quantities needed, definitely now considering changing though.
@soltirina
@soltirina 3 жыл бұрын
is there any difference in regard to priming or painting them? (ex. does acrylic stick better or in less coats to one than the other?)
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Not that I have found. Priming sticks the same to all of them, and you NEED to prime before painting :)
@Erstey
@Erstey 3 жыл бұрын
From my experience it's the same. Also, the first think I noticed that resin prints are amazing for painting without priming as opposed to PLA prints or the injection mold plastic. I bought different colours of water washable resin, to save time on priming for the purpose of undercolor basecoating.
@RrVvMusic
@RrVvMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great video (except when you break the figurines 😥 ) Totaly answer my question concernong water washable resins Thanks !
@MarauderPixie
@MarauderPixie 3 жыл бұрын
I had indeed a good time watching a grown man hitting miniatures with a hammer over and over again and I even came here to tell you about it.
@Mittebam
@Mittebam 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see how each of them would hold up under a hydraulic press, haha! That'll give you some science-y figures xD
@aussiecoastie72
@aussiecoastie72 Жыл бұрын
I find water washable Resin to be very brittle once cured .
@Gowaduv
@Gowaduv 3 жыл бұрын
Hollow prints reduce resin use by 50 - 60% which is a considerable savings if you're printing with Siraya Blu or AmeraLabs. But I get your point that the uncured resin inside is less than ideal. Drain holes are supposed to allow the washing fluid to get inside and rinse it out; either those flame head figures didn't have holes or they didn't work. Thanks for the comparison video!
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Oh totally! The AMeralabs probably saved $1 per mini haha. I just don't ever like it when it leaks out later, which seems to always happen to me. But it could be that my cleanup process is less than ideal. Who knows! Glad you liked it :)
@d.j.peters
@d.j.peters 2 жыл бұрын
Exposuretime 8 S isn't it to long ? I got my first resin printer the Elegoo Mars 3 Pro 6 weeks ago and changed it from 2.5 S to 1.8 S for water washable resin without any problems !
@SaedestOne
@SaedestOne 3 жыл бұрын
It scares me when i see bottom lift and lift speed at 40 while mine are at 180? It came as the normal settings i dont understand
@ChrisEllorris
@ChrisEllorris 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't see anyone else mentioning this, but is there a reason your elegoo resin settings are what they are? My bottles suggest 60 second initial layers and 8 second subsequent layers, whereas you had 100 and 11. That might be why you're getting a bit more noticeable print lines on those resins and a little less detail on the minis. I've done a few tests above and below the 60/8 and those are what worked best for me. I use primarily Elegoo's water washable resins.
@singulardesigns3d912
@singulardesigns3d912 3 жыл бұрын
You clean UV resins outside in the sunlight?
@drross99gaming12
@drross99gaming12 3 жыл бұрын
Me while watching: This sounds familiar. Me trying to remember: Oh yeah I read this on a website somewhere lol.
@Simon-et4hu
@Simon-et4hu 2 жыл бұрын
I mix elegoo ABS-like resin with the siraya tech that’s flexible (don’t have the bottle with me for the full name). Because my miniatures need to be floor proof lol. The mix is like 10% siraya/90% abs. It really helps with the durability with minimum detail loss. Virtually none but if you get very close I imagine you’ll find some details are less sharp. Because of that I had to switch to alcohol. You can mix the water washable with the others but you can’t then wash it with water so yeah. The downside with water washable resin so far is simply less variety. We’ll see about that in the future! I print with the elegoo mars “not pro” special basic edition. Edit: if you wait about 2 days after printing you’ll see the real durability of the resin.
@snailorgy
@snailorgy 3 жыл бұрын
personally ive found water washable is great as long as its a translucent colour. the opaque ones like the grey and black crack over time ruining your prints, they are also way more prone to warping than your alcohol wash resins
@cmdrsausage
@cmdrsausage 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah major issue with those resins which is never mentioned
@TaskMaster5
@TaskMaster5 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the good thing is the resin is pretty cheap and most minis are resin sippers. I'll have to keep an eye on my Warhammer proxies as time goes on. Hopefully keeping them in proper storage conditions will ease the 'decay' as well as the paint/clear coat.
@DiviNazuphus
@DiviNazuphus Жыл бұрын
To dispose of the alcohol you can let it evaporate and then cure the resin for disposal like you do water. Just don't let it evaporate indoors unless extremely well ventilated.
@simon-patrickjohnson
@simon-patrickjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
The build lines almost look like wood grain, maybe you could make a video where you try to get that effect on purpose?
@bestecnologia2301
@bestecnologia2301 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rybonator, Can you help me with this? Do you know any washable resin with these specifications? Flexural modulus:1.882-2.385Mpa Flexural strength :59-70MPa Hot deformation temp.:80℃ Thermal expansion:95*E-6 Volume shrinkage:3.72%-4.24% Linear shrinkage:1.05-1.35% Tensile strength:36-52MPa Tensile modulus:1.779-2.385 MPa Elongation at break:4-10% Hardness(Shore D):62-88 D Glass transition temp.:100℃ Density:1.05-1.28 g/cm3 Notched impact strength:44-49j/m Viscosity:100-350MPa·s Instantaneous temp.: 140℃ Thanks a lot!
@daggius
@daggius 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Plant Based Resign also water washable? Or you have to use IPA to wash it?
@kimkong1413
@kimkong1413 3 жыл бұрын
There is a toilet paper hoarder mini?!?! I've seen it all now. 😭😭
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Toilet Paper Dwarf Santa :D
@d-not-u
@d-not-u Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@darthangeal4120
@darthangeal4120 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to print minis with the other type of 3d printer? The ones that use filament not resin.
@WhiteRaven___
@WhiteRaven___ 3 жыл бұрын
Depends. But I highly recommend not using a filament fdm printer for minis. Just from personal headaches...I mean experience
@Lavadog11
@Lavadog11 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is. However, you have to be more selective of what you print and accept that some things are just going got turn out like crap. For instance, I used my FMD/FFF printer to print a custom Dragonborn mini and the tail turned out thin and not very good looking on the bottom side. I also printed off a Sergal Samurai from Thingiverse and almost each and every single time the legs and sword break off.
@JeanieBlakely
@JeanieBlakely 3 жыл бұрын
It isn't as easy. I have yet to get a mini that looks nice but there is someone on here ...3d dm or something I don't remember. They have had better success and have tested things a lot more with filament printing minis. I do have to say that the scatter terrain I've made looks awesome.
@MidwestGuru91
@MidwestGuru91 3 жыл бұрын
It is possible, just takes a lot longer time to print and really knowing how to fine tune your print settings to get a really smooth and detailed print.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
You TOTALLY can. But the detail difference is enormous! I prefer FDM (the filament printers) for large prints like terrain, and resin for minis and dice. :)
@kytis13
@kytis13 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the build lines are still visible or are an issue when they're all primed up
@TimSimpson
@TimSimpson Жыл бұрын
re dice - instead of sanding try using dremmel with a buffing disk.
@RubyH4rt
@RubyH4rt 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the elegoo mars 2 today, as well as a bottle of the water washable resin, and I love how it's kind of plug and play. I just leveled the plate and started the test print, and when it finished it looked amazing, and the cleanup is much less complicated since I don't have to worry about having =>95% iso on hand. Other than that, super excited to get started on printing
@stepyloja
@stepyloja Жыл бұрын
FYI this is a December 2022 comment. I have an Anycubic Photon M3. I have tried the Anycubic water washable and the eSun water washable resin. These are my personal observations: Anycubic WW: needs less exposure time, hard but brittle eSun WW: less viscous than Anycubic, needs more exposure time but more impact resistant, less brittle than Anycubic but still fragile I don't have a washing and curing station so I opted to go for the water washable. It's more expensive than the standard resin. Lastly, I agree that although it is water washable, it still needs to be disposed properly.
@sarahburke6739
@sarahburke6739 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thank you for posting! This is an awesome video! I laughed at the hammer test, not gonna lie. I did think of a question though... painting. Which type of 3D resin pained the best? Did you have to do anything other then clean them to paint them? Did the paint colour change at all because of the nave mini colour? I’m curious...
@backpacker3421
@backpacker3421 9 ай бұрын
Frankly, if you're going to paint the minis (or anything else you print), those build lines will disappear after about two coats of paint (maybe even just a primer will be enough). So... I'm taking away to use WW unless I plan to leave a print unfinished, and then break out the high quality resin for super smooth finish. Though, with proper dialing in of your exposure and lift speeds, those lines might even smooth out more... Thanks though - def going to give WW a try now. I wasn't sure. I've heard such mixed response.
@harleywalls6356
@harleywalls6356 3 жыл бұрын
can you print warhammer models or warhammer 40k
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
You can print 'knockoff' versions that people design themselves. They look pretty dang similar :)
@allenwhittenbury5800
@allenwhittenbury5800 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I've noticed a difference in colours as well. Black is always a bit more flexible if you compare water washable against water washable.
@UnvarnishedTarnished
@UnvarnishedTarnished 3 жыл бұрын
You can get rid of those "build lines" by using anti-aliasing.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Thanks Zach :)
@leighanddansinclair1696
@leighanddansinclair1696 5 ай бұрын
My biggest problem with (one) water washable resin is that it was not very resilient to environmental changes. I live in a moderately humid environment and over summer (when temperatures and humidity were a bit elevated) an entire year's worth of resin prints using water-washable resin developed fine surface cracks. This was large prints, small prints, hollowed prints, non-hollowed prints, primed prints, painted prints. etc. All of them. It was heartbreaking!
@nottelling6598
@nottelling6598 3 жыл бұрын
If you put a little screen cover just over the bottom of the isopropyl cleaning vat, the resin settles underneath it, letting your isopropyl last longer. Also, if you get a single UV LED hooked up to a proper power source, you can often cure the insides of most hollow prints with very little adjustment.
@Christopher_Gibbons
@Christopher_Gibbons 2 жыл бұрын
You can't just throw away the water. It is full of resin just like the alcohol. It has to go to a hazardous waste disposal. P.S. thinking of modeling resin as high quality is a bit of a trap. It has properties that optimize it for miniatures. Each resin will have different properties. Some are high detail, some are very hard, some are as flexible as rubber. Each will be ideal for a specific job.
@zencow
@zencow 3 жыл бұрын
Jan2021... watching a bunch of your vids. Yesterday, I watched your March 2020 vid about making dice masters, and today I watched this one about 3d printing resins. In the resin comparison vid you said you would NOT use the water washable resins for dice masters because of issues with sanding, but in the dice master video, you gushed over how nice the water washable prints came out with the sanding/polishing fabrics. Why the big flip? ;)
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly when I had nothing to compare them to, they seemed amazing! But I now have the comparison to say that sanding seems to go a bit easier without water washable, rather than with :)
@MrBizteck
@MrBizteck 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Question did you have issues with the washable resin cracking after curing?
@captainseabunnycosplay2732
@captainseabunnycosplay2732 3 жыл бұрын
This broke my heart 😭 I can’t 3Dprint minis so watching you break these beautiful mini’s hurt so bad 😭😭
@theriveracis5172
@theriveracis5172 3 жыл бұрын
This is my biggest problem personally with 3D printing. Even my failures are amazing looking, and so it breaks my heart to throw away half a miniature because it got stuck or lost a weapon.
@scottman572
@scottman572 3 жыл бұрын
yeah I swapped to water washable for my mass production bases I print. Huge mistake, it's a massive chore to dry them so you can cure them, they take forever to cure. Normal resin hands down wins, Toss in Denatured alcohol, go to secondary cleaner one, take out, dry in minutes, and done.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, I see the benefits for both, but if you are doing a large amount of them, alcohol versions probably would out-do the water washable :)
@howardibleinc.7317
@howardibleinc.7317 3 жыл бұрын
What is your layer height? I use anycubic resin at .025 layer height and I have never seen lines.
@kingpanguan
@kingpanguan 3 жыл бұрын
can you use the printed models rather than creating moulds?
@xxapoloxx
@xxapoloxx 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip, alcohol evaporates faster than water, you can do exactly the same thing.
@TheMountainWulf
@TheMountainWulf 3 жыл бұрын
All of their contests can only be entered if you already have your own printer. If I had a printer, I wouldn't need to win one, and since I don't, I've never been able to enter into a single one of their contests.
@TheMountainWulf
@TheMountainWulf 3 жыл бұрын
btw You have to have your resin prints hollow. The not fully cured resin on the inside of not hollowed out prints will rot them from the inside out. Just rinse your hollow models better and there won't be any of that resin left inside. A lot of the professionals recommend an ultra sonic cleaner to make it easier.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
True! It's a definite circle of printers haha. But I guess you would then be able to possibly upgrade printers and sell your old one :)
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
I would say that isn't true - That's why people have resin prints that last years that are solid. You are CURING it as you run the printer. You are essentially EXTRA curing the outside because it gets covered in liquid uncured resin, which is why hollow prints do the same. But hey, just my opinion :)
@FighterDoken
@FighterDoken 3 жыл бұрын
The filing speed is actually a good thing for most prints. Something to think about when considering a swap to water-washable.
@CarlyMonster
@CarlyMonster Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was exactly the information I was hoping to find. :-)
@juliodolmus5720
@juliodolmus5720 9 ай бұрын
I started 3d resin printing and noticed the model from the water washable was brittle. Your video did help educate me in better understanding what to be looking for when choosing the right resin
@rengoodfriend6823
@rengoodfriend6823 3 жыл бұрын
How would you dispose of the water if it is below freezing outside? Also, if it rains, I assume you would not want the water flowing over, how would you deal with this problem.
@MisterWealth
@MisterWealth 3 жыл бұрын
how do you dispose of your alcohol?
@ashchan30
@ashchan30 Жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for ball jointed dolls that you have to paint?
@yousu3d517
@yousu3d517 3 жыл бұрын
ABS-like Resin. Lightning Deals on Amazon tomorrow.
@Pixelon_
@Pixelon_ 2 жыл бұрын
How do you dispose of the water you used to clean the resin of the print? thanks.
@elielbourrelly9902
@elielbourrelly9902 3 жыл бұрын
First video from you and 30 seconds in i wss alredy subscribed... you are hilarious!
@MrBorderdown
@MrBorderdown 2 жыл бұрын
The ABS-like isn't the standard resin dude. The standard stuff is brittle as shit and would have snapped and shattered first.
@deathtomenow
@deathtomenow 3 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone, does anyone know a good way to get bulk minis for a decent price that don't look like melted wax.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Often the best way is to find people selling them online getting rid of old collections. But you can also get Prepainted ones from DnD directly :)
@kllrnooooova
@kllrnooooova 3 жыл бұрын
He is back yay! Also, are the intros scripted or do you just adlib them while trying to 1 up yourself?
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to be back :) Half and half haha. I usually think of a joke and run with it. Then I do the intro over and over until I come up with enough jokes to make it work!
@k3gamerk3-gaming96
@k3gamerk3-gaming96 3 жыл бұрын
Are we still getting a video on if inhibitX is needed on 3d printed dice before molding?
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Probably next month :)
@k3gamerk3-gaming96
@k3gamerk3-gaming96 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rybonator Awesome! Thank you. By the way are you trying out any inhibitX alternatives like clear acrylic spray?
@ShimoOni
@ShimoOni 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful video, as someone who is just starting out with 3d printing (its on its way) this video was very helpful for a more definitive answer to which type of resin I should get.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help my friend :) Yeah I wish I knew the difference in them before I got started. They both have advantages and disadvantages. You can't REALLY go wrong, but I do like the water washable for the convenience :)
@benperez6454
@benperez6454 Жыл бұрын
I also use water specifically because I don't want to always have a jug of iso around
@samwaterlord6888
@samwaterlord6888 3 жыл бұрын
Gobin back, me happy
@lkjhgfd885
@lkjhgfd885 3 жыл бұрын
Started with water washable, not sure if it was my process or not but I found if I took a paper towel to it I got a small amount of resin off in the fine details.
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this is a good thing or not haha. But I should try that :)
@Fissi0nChips
@Fissi0nChips 2 жыл бұрын
What about ECO resin which is still IPA washable?
@NatePilgrim
@NatePilgrim 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, no skillshare promo? It is not a complain, I actually was expecting the segway and the puns...
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
I do 1 shillshare vid a month with them currently :)
@eastoforion
@eastoforion 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great testament to models that are created specifically for resin printers. The chunky aesthetic looks amazing and makes things so much stronger.
@AJ-jj9fc
@AJ-jj9fc 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that this video is published after I've been looking up resin printers a lot over the past two days, perfect timing! Are you gonna get one of the flex plate systems (like Wham Bam) to make it easier to take prints off your build plate?
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing :) I might try that sometime! Didn't know it existed until your comment!
@Comrade_Broski
@Comrade_Broski 4 ай бұрын
Wait, you don't have to properly dispose of the resin water?
@curlygurly2112
@curlygurly2112 3 жыл бұрын
the puns are slowly becoming more and more forced and I kinda love that
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
When I do videos on the same subjects, all the good puns get taken early on xD
@thomasmoggie7589
@thomasmoggie7589 3 жыл бұрын
HOW AM I THIS EARLY?????
@WhiteRaven___
@WhiteRaven___ 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the translucent resin from elegoo when it comes off the printer but It ALWAYS turns yellow after mere seconds of light exposure. Have you had any success or tried the clear translucent resin?
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
I have used the transparent blue before, but always paint them, so I wouldn't be able to tell ya sadly
@snailorgy
@snailorgy 3 жыл бұрын
ive found the same with white resins, all I can tell you is to use a very low power UV led for short periods then spray with uv sealer
@WhiteRaven___
@WhiteRaven___ 3 жыл бұрын
@@snailorgy I've even tried leaving it in a window that has a fog film on it and it almost instantly yellows my resin lol
@WhiteRaven___
@WhiteRaven___ 3 жыл бұрын
@@snailorgy sometimes even washing it in IPA will turn it yellow too. Makes no sense
@badrakhariunchimeg1031
@badrakhariunchimeg1031 2 жыл бұрын
Can 40% alcohol used as washing solvent..?
@clickmagazine
@clickmagazine 2 жыл бұрын
Water washable can you take it of the plate first and then put in the water and is cold or hot water best?
@lwolfstar7618
@lwolfstar7618 3 жыл бұрын
Awww yay its nice to see you back
@Rybonator
@Rybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lily
@uhhok8296
@uhhok8296 3 жыл бұрын
3:40 yo, I have the same Tupperware, this is crazy bro
@SerPounce23
@SerPounce23 3 жыл бұрын
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