Testing Exothermic Flamethrowers

[@OrdnanceLab]

We wanted to get this out sooner, but the rocket project was as huge undertaking in both effort and time. This is just one of many videos we will do on flamethrowers. We have some other models on hand we will put to the test. We just have to be careful as we do not have the greatest luck with burning things at the range.

[@russellzauner]

The first unit seemed tight in operation, when you released the trigger it was easily seen "chopping" the stream and it also appeared to ignite as it should (ignition was similar every shot and behaved consistently). I feel I would have no problem operating this in a safe and controllable/contained manner myself and I am a novice at flamethrowers - talk about saving a lot of work if you have a big yard, though. I would also bet it is great at surgically destroying in ground yellow jacket nests, which can randomly appear in woods or fields here. The second unit's fuel cutoff valve is junk or nonexistent. You can see the pressure spin down with unburnt fuel appearing to drop closely to you or even on your foot while the end of the stream is still on fire. Terrifying. Don't buy this at home, kids.

[@Rustyer266]

im curious if you are able to add a small amount of motor oil to the gas + diesel mix to increase burn time and effectiveness on a target shouldn't make the mixture too thick

[@chrisgriffith9252]

This flame thrower steam appears similar to the the in the movie Aliens.

[@CaptainBill22]

Tell me your contact over at Exothermic is named "Hans".

[@aaronbest747]

What if you put 91% isopropyl alcohol in the flame thrower????

[@kmech3rd]

An Endothermic Flamer would be a strange concept indeed...

[@OrdnanceLab]

Not our first choice in naming a flamethrower company. But it gets the job done.

[@isaacm1929]

​@@OrdnanceLab Now we need a endothermic one. It would be fun

[@OldManAzeban]

Isn’t that how Beto identifies?

[@kmech3rd]

An Endothermic Flamer would be akin to Mr Freeze's gun from Batman. Be a lot of fun to freeze a home invader into a block of ice for the police...

[@theanzac208]

It would probably be something like the cryolator from fallout.

[@a15thcenturysuitofgothicarmor]

"Well I didn't want to kill him, I just made the attacker a little toasty until he stopped."

[@kmech3rd]

Similar to my justification for using a Can Cannon for home defense... "He came into my house uninvited, and I offered him a free beverage. The velocity of that free beverage should not matter."

[@victormartin2774]

BROTHER , GET THE FLAMER . THE HEAVY FLAMER!!! As a pyromaniac I must say that I enjoyed all the gratuitous flame content that was in the video, thanks to both of you at Ordnance Lab! If Jake Lambuth is reading this know that I appreciate your explanations. To everyone stay scientific where you are legally allowed to do so.

[@ElementalMaker]

This just really makes me want to devise an endothermic flamethrower

[@OrdnanceLab]

We would have chosen a different brand name for them like SuperFantastic Flamers.

[@trolly4233]

It would be a microwave gun. I think you know what happens to food left in a microwave for too long…

[@kirkc9643]

Dude, where you been? and PS I'm thinking these are using automotive high pressure fuel pumps....diy project right up your alley

[@mk6315]

I think if a flamethrower lets the thermic go endo it blows up

[@johnladuke6475]

@@OrdnanceLab Honestly I was disappointed, I didn't realize the video title was the company name. What I figured was that Mad Scientist Jake had devised some kind of flamethrower based on an exothermic chemical reaction. Like if manganese heptoxide could behave long enough to be pumped and sprayed. Because I would totally watch a video about that kind of thing. Just sayin.

[@markpowell5654]

Nice to have you all back from UK

[@IonOtter]

Fire Chief: "Very sorry about your house, sir. Can you tell me what happened?" Former Homeowner: "Well, I saw this video on KZbin..."

[@OrdnanceLab]

One has to wonder how many stories have started with "well, I saw this KZbin video and...."

[@johnladuke6475]

@@OrdnanceLab Nobody starts the story that way. They wait until the end and trail off with "it worked on KZbin..."

[@lavalevel69]

I have one...an 80/20 mix of gas to diesel is what i found works best

[@jlambuth]

Seems to be the ideal ratio

[@gerdiopedacosta7416]

For me is 33/77 ratio of diesel and gas respective to them

[@dustinbrueggemann1875]

@@gerdiopedacosta7416 That adds up to 110%...

[@muskyman1018]

In case you spill 10% while topping off.

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

Just got one this past week, but we're under a no-burn order right now.☹

[@sheldoniusRex]

Idea here. Maybe not a good one but here goes anyway; you could see if vehicle mounting reduces range from the flame thrower. I.e. measure range in the forward and 90 degrees firing positions at 5 mph increments.

[@OrdnanceLab]

That could be fun. Mike bought a go kart that we could modify.

[@markhunter2342]

I can see that going badly, pissing into the wind with very "Exothermic Piss"

[@plepgeat]

As a defense attorney, I submit that a flame thrower is less lethal than a center-fire rifle and that you used it on humanitarian grounds.

[@kylemcclureazadsalahazadi]

Totally missed opportunity: "Liar, liar, pants on fire!"

[@OrdnanceLab]

Sean is slacking with the one liners.

[@Wheeling88]

That's cool as heck!!! I want one ! As for self defense yeah maybe questionable. But build a man a fire ,he's warm for a day ,set a man on fire ,he won't ask you for crap again😎.. great video 👍👍👍👍👍

[@OrdnanceLab]

They work best when used for turning brush piles into bonfires in a short amount of time.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Yall might want to get some tips from ballistic high speed channel. That channel has blown up in just months.

[@johnscarborough4746]

"cocaine is a hell of a drug" R. Pryor.

[@OrdnanceLab]

Lol

[@V3RTIGO222]

Honestly new 'WW2 style' flamethrowers would be extra cool using a napalm compatible electric pump. Frankly electric pumps are just way simpler, compact, and easy to use (I've seen a number of fancy water guns that use an electric pump to both fill the reservoir and shoot).

[@jeckol3200]

I am a simple man. Ordinance lab puts out a video I watch happily.

[@jholotanbest2688]

You need the backpack full of fuel to get that good range and burn. Also very nice on tanks.

[@OrdnanceLab]

Another brand sent us a backpack model to test. We are testing it when we are done with our travels in Europe.

[@jholotanbest2688]

@@OrdnanceLab Very nice. You brining the good content.

[@ralphrutherford2583]

Keep up the great work- Richard Prior reference: priceless

[@soggycracker5934]

So, these are fuel tanks, strapped to bombs... Nice! The Mounties are really sweating this one.

[@soggycracker5934]

@Andrew The battery...

[@gary4332]

I love my UBF. Also bought the backpack attachment for it. Absolutely love the 4 minutes of fire it gets me

[@christiandunbar532]

Could you run oil through it?

[@gary4332]

@@christiandunbar532 never tried it. I know they say only gas and diesel but I would bet if you mix oil in there with it it'll be able to burn it no problem as on as it isn't too thick

[@dustykh]

I wonder how these behave with other types of non viscous fuels, like alcohol or biofuels

[@OrdnanceLab]

We didn't test those fuels yet, but we figure they would handle them well. We can def make a video to see how they perform.

[@forfun6273]

@@OrdnanceLabmaybe try mixed gas. Not sure what it would do. Feel like it would make it burn a little bit longer and wouldn’t make it too much thicker where it would clog it up. Try like 50:1 and 25:1

[@forfun6273]

Or maybe do a 50:1 with some 90w oil instead of 2 stroke oil. I using a little old motor oil to start a campfire works great. Not exactly sure how the EPA feels about it though.

[@TheSpookiestSkeleton]

@@OrdnanceLab I'm guessing it'd be more like a body spray flamethrower because of the tendency of alcohol to evaporate quickly. Might form a rich mixture with the air too quick and flash in your face, might wanna wear a jacket

[@kaboom4679]

How about t butyllithium or trimethyl aluminum ? Chlorine trifluoride ? FOOF ? Brush and leaves are child's play . Let's incinerate some asbestos !

[@samrowland2816]

I've just come across something I think you guys would be perfect to test, and would fit nicely in your improvised ordnance niche. It's the 'Grenade No76. Hand, Anti-Tank'. A self igniting incendiary intended for use by British Home Guard units early second world war.

[@markumoeder]

Thats just an fire exist-inguisher spot on.

[@alexandrosskoufos8729]

I love that this channel can exist

[@OrdnanceLab]

We are here for your entertainment and education. Edu-tainment if you will.

[@bashkillszombies]

When your flamethrower has the range of a sports bottle you're using the wrong kind of flamethrower.

[@minigpracing3068]

Seems like a decent tool for lighting back burns to fight wildfires, a bigger tank might be good though.

[@herms0069]

They make a backpack that has a 2.5 gallon tanks gives 4 mins of burn time

[@muskyman1018]

3.3 I believe, I just ordered one, hasn’t arrived yet.

[@n0jy]

"I don't know if I would have turned into Richard Pryor..." what a hoot! I wonder how many can relate to that, nowadays?

[@RabeHK]

Finally a flamethrower that can mount on my rifle for self defense

[@ChrisCVW]

Lit!

[@F_L_U_X]

Test how far it shoots straight up

[@OrdnanceLab]

We debated on that test. The issue is that we risked damaging the flamethrowers due to fuel falling back.

[@terryqueen3233]

Those things are awesome, I saw them demonstrated on Canadian prepper

[@MarkHahn]

Very cool. I want one to mount to my AR. What a cool addition this would be. Probably not legal in my state lol. Cool video 👍

[@johnsmith-sp6yl]

only banned in new york and i think new jersey last i checked

[@jochensteinkopf3816]

Nice video, guys👍 Next det-cord and shaped charges vs. ballistic dummy "zombie" heads and torsos.

[@uzifouryoutwosay]

“Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts, Cayoneeeroooooo”

[@fatman4792]

should check out the xl 18 by throwflame make a good napalm mix and go out to 100ft range

[@OrdnanceLab]

We have that one as well. It's next on the testing schedule.

[@themidnightbandwidth]

y'all need a dakota fire hole, and a budget to clear the range. that sounds like some fun right there.

[@scottinWV]

Swap out the pump with a Holley high flow/high pressure fuel pump and you could spray nearly anything through it.

[@mordechaimordechai]

Mind is fascinating. I clicked because i was intrigued by endothermic flamethrowers

[@brandongibbs3016]

House burns down. Buys flamethrower

[@r000tbeer]

Flamethrower quirks and features, awesome!

[@Sion_Revan]

The only thing more dangerous than a flame thrower is the man holding it

[@johnstandfell9458]

Hey guy's I always get a bang out of you're video's please keep up the excellent entertaining videos

[@kaliumnitraat]

💪💪💪

[@vonrechner9618]

Fire marshal Bill 😂

[@edi9892]

As a Chemist, I'd love to see an endothermic flamethrower. LOL.

[@HarshmanHills]

Fire GOOD!!!

[@Sniperboy5551]

That Richard Pryor reference was perfect

[@lifeoftraveling8330]

3 parts diesel to 1 part gas is the mixed used for control burns

[@Scorpac]

i liked the ATF shirt you wore at IWA

[@filippomori8632]

Use a ballistic torso such those of garand thumb with anfo etc. A thing that I always wanted to understand is the energy absorbed by someone who is not in the “primary sphere” of the explosion. And the amount of damage at various distances.

[@societl]

Those are very expensive and using a flamethrower on them would just be burning chemicals. They are upwards of one grand each.

[@scrappydoo7887]

People must also consider radiated heat. It's no joke. Flash burns and radiated burns are not fun

[@OrdnanceLab]

This why we do these tests with flame resistant clothing and tons of fire suppression. Even with small flamethowers like these. They don't appear as mighty as backpack mounted ones, but the heat is no joke.

[@scrappydoo7887]

@@OrdnanceLab 100% I've been playing with fire since I was able to strike a match and the one thing that consistently surprises me is the power of radiated heat. If dealing with liquids with high volatility it's generally even worse

[@scrappydoo7887]

It'd be cool to see something like methylated spirits or isopropyl alcohol go through the flame throwers too 👍

[@awsomedude9111]

Really would be interesting if you had a Vietnam M2 Flamethrower. Would like to possibly make my own without any electric pump, or at least understand how it works.

[@motosk8er2]

Back when I was in my late teens I modified an old discharged fire extinguisher (ironically) to be refillable with gas and compressed nitrogen. Had a small propane torch as the pilot light. Thing threw flames like 30ft 😂.

[@kirkc9643]

high pressure fuel pump

[@awsomedude9111]

@@motosk8er2 Wow that actually sounds like what I am looking for. Might have to pick one up on ebay.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Functioning M2s are very rare and collectible, so that'd be an expensive investment. ForgottenWeapons has a good video on the thing, describing how it works.

[@Kadorja]

Love the Richard Pryor reference 😂

[@AWStuck]

Is there an edit error at the 2 minute mark? Great channel 👍🏻been watching for a long time

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Have you guys tested the M202 Flash? We tested them back in the 1970s and results were interesting

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

The M202 FLASH was a really cool idea for a weapon, but absolutely terrifying in practice. The pyrophoric payload would gradually eat away at the rocket casing and then potentially start a fire, and this was when in storage, I've heard that they were widely disliked and distrusted by many of those who had to carry them around as there's more than a few examples of the rockets detonating inside of the tube or right outside the muzzle. I'd take the M2 Flamethrower any day, that thing was engineered for safety and reliability.

[@whittytrich6150]

All i can picture is jim Carrey with a flamethrower. The jumpsuit makes it 10x better hahaaha

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

There are plans online that are pretty easy to find for a military grade flamethrower using Amazon parts for around $500. That would be a cool project to see. The king of random made a design like that too RIP.

[@OrdnanceLab]

Sucks that he died. He was great. We can def look into the concept for a video.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@OrdnanceLab awesome, thanks!

[@thedraftdoctor1]

as a felon, mine is my go to home protection device

[@Fal41]

Formidable pour deserbher.

[@fajile5109]

Flamethrowers make for amazing crowd control they never want to come towards the flames.

[@zehfox2719]

Flamethrowers are great home defense weapons. If you break into a house and the first thing you see is a man in his underwear holding a flamethrower, you leave and close the door behind you, apologizing.

[@the.shotgun.approach]

that thing is AWESOME!

[@RangerOfTheOrder]

Could you theoretically use a mixture of gasoline and cooking or motor oil to just slightly thicken it? Not as much as napalm, but thicker than diesel.

[@FlattardiansSuck]

I made my own using 110psi twin 12v car fuel pumps, and i use a thin naptha based sticky stuff. 8 to 10 metre flame and 1 odd minute flame time on the target. My best adaptation was a switch to turn off the igniters... then i can add fuel directly without it burning before the target. You can pour on the mix up to 10mm to 19mm thick. You have to clean the pumps out thoroughly afterwards. Otherwise a 9litre water fire extinguisher, converted, can do almost as well for cheaper, but its not as safe, or easy to use

[@fakename7255]

Skit idea for a short. You know the toy "Bop it!"? Play with that but add an instruction. "Pull it!", "Spin it!", "Bop it!", "Bip it!"... shrug... *boom*

[@aaronbest747]

What if you put 91% isopropyl alcohol in the flame thrower ???

[@honeyforce996]

If you know anything about naval operations, can you talk about the similarities between the Ivan Khurs attack, and the USS Cole? I'm just curious how explosives are arranged for a boat attack, and why the boats pull up side-to-side. Someone said it was because you have to keep weight off the bow (or the boat will plow). And that the 2 vessels need to be close together for maximum effectiveness. I'm mostly curious if the explosives get arranged in some way, to create a concentration of energy. Maybe they are also in some container, or have a projectile in front of them, to try to penetrate the target with? Or if they just get piled in haphazardly, and maybe the water concentrates the blast towards the target. Cool channel, thanks for sharing the knowledge.

[@rickyricardo3551]

A suggestion for a future video. I know finding the casting would be the hardest part, but a video of old gernades would be cool, something from around mid 18 or 19th century. I know ot not the easiest thing to do but it'd be cool since there are no videos of anything like that in action.

[@brettleybuilt]

Make an endothermic flame thrower and I will be impressed.

[@inahurrytooften3121]

Be a good thing for fireant hills.

[@OrdnanceLab]

A solid way to get rid of spicy ants.

[@biamboibifuro817]

I'm new to this KZbin channel. Hello to the FBI agent monitoring me.

[@garystewart8349]

You look more like Ray Charles than Richard Prior. 😆

[@herms0069]

Use a mix of diesel and two cycle mixed gas that has given me my best results in the pulsefire long range tourch.

[@KMar-KARAMANLI-]

Heyo ordnance lab! A suggestion: make the biggest bomb like the max limit you can example 10kg or more!

[@meanman6992]

I can articulate a reason, same reason they were used in war. The threat hid behind something. They were good at fishing out a threat and simultaneously neutralizing the threat.

[@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami]

An Endothermic flamethrower wouldn't be much of use...

[@Jurgen_Wulf]

Good Lord! That is my childhood dream! After cutting a lot of branches, bushes, dying or unwanted trees at my granny's country house garden and setting this pile on fire for two decades with paper and trash - flamethrower was always my dream. Too bad that I'm not living in Freedom Country, rather an opposite one. Beware of RCMP they will not be happy with such fun things

[@OrdnanceLab]

We are pretty sure we are numero uno on the RCMP's most wanted list at this point.

[@earlturner6023]

these are legal in canada

[@williambaker4417]

Would come in handy in the Scarecrow Apocalypse!

[@johnladuke6475]

Like zombies, they want brains. Unlike zombies, they ask nicely.

[@madcapmagician6018]

far out man 😁👍

[@thetoasterisonfire2080]

Explosives? Flamethrowers? These guys are becoming the DRG driller

[@hewfil1]

I know this video is months old and this will probably not be seen but. At the mention of those not being able to use a thickening agent. But what about something like ATF (trans fluid)? It is extremely flammable, is a detergent based product so it's thin, and mixes well with diesel.

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

Reminds me of Fire Marshal Bill

[@jholotanbest2688]

I love that "the napalm stikking to kids" part is repeated.

[@galileofrank5779]

Did you forget to edit out the second take of that diesel fuel mix thing in the beginning

[@GerinoMorn]

I also like gardening

[@sean5278]

How are they with a headwind? For instance mounted on your front bumper driving 5-20mph

[@iamgriff]

I keep a flamethrower in my car. I live in Detroit, carjacking is a real and serious threat. I found less lethal weapons like flamethrowers are better than a gun.

[@Tylermaddox1911]

You gotta mix a 70 gas 30 diesel or a 80 gas 20 diesel and Styrofoam or aluminum soap to make the forbidden jelly.

[@Rayneman215]

Lmaoooo 🤣 🤣 🤣 when you said that Richard Pryor joke I died laughing good luck explaining that shit to any lawyer I thought it was even funnier how the torch sound mimicked a slight scream of the victim as you torched the target dummie

[@johnladuke6475]

Whoa, hey, some things you can't joke about. I can't possibly test whether napalm really sticks to kids! Even if I could get them to stand still for the test, the little buggers all know there's not really any candy in the van.

[@ians.1746]

You all should do some work on Greek fire! Maybe see if you can mix up something that resembles this old tech. Supposably it's a lost science! Drachinifel out of the UK did some things on his channel but he could use some help from some American ingenuity.

[@Rayneman215]

When you said Well 🤣🤣🤣😭

[@nato7.62mm4]

How about throwing a DIY flamethrower in the mix? Using a typical gas or electric pressure washer with a small propane torch fastened to the end of the spray wand as an ignition source fed with a similar 50/50 mix.

[@johnladuke6475]

I feel like putting flammable solvents through plumbing meant for soap and water will eat the rubber pressure seals and make the pump into a ball of fire. Maybe not right away, but sooner or later, and without any warning.

[@nato7.62mm4]

@John La Duke Valid point I suppose, however there are pressure washers with auxiliary tanks designed to hold decreasing agents most of which are of a volatile petroleum base, so....

[@johnladuke6475]

@@nato7.62mm4 So... now I need to go shop for such a pressure washer for what I swear is an unrelated reason.

[@nato7.62mm4]

@John La Duke Wel.... i seriously doubt anyone expects YOU to do anything.... however if one were to make a suggestion i would reccomend you jump a little higher so the point of.fact that there is nothing special about the hose.or seals doesnt zoom past overhead without you being able to grasp it.... I only made the original comment because I saw "Whistling Deisel" do that very thing on his channel. So....

[@johnladuke6475]

@@nato7.62mm4 Well if you're going to be insulting about it, then you've clearly had the point go "whistling over" your (obnoxious and rude) head that gasoline will eat any rubber or plastic other than neoprene. Meaning that if the seals, hose, and any other plastic parts aren't neoprene, they will fail and leak. Catastrophically. Maybe not tody, maybe not tomorrow... but someday, and for the [very short] rest of the operator's life.

[@scrappydoo7887]

Get the burgers!!!!

[@OrdnanceLab]

Great way to start a bbq

[@scrappydoo7887]

@@OrdnanceLab hell yeah 🤘 🤣 Seriously though I'd be interested to see how Zippo fluid or similar goes. I'd say probably worse given that it's a thinner fluid but who knows? Lol Science

[@mrstraw153]

Wow I never get to see these videos when there's only a thousand views

[@OrdnanceLab]

The KZbin algorithm sometimes loves us and sometimes crushes us. It's hit or miss.

[@samuelletner7492]

I'm looking forward to something by extraneous attachments!

[@astergen6920]

I would sure hope my flaimthrower would be exothermic

[@philipreasons3298]

1st thing I thought of was hooked up to a remote rover to clear anti personnel mines post war zone.

[@chuckaddison5134]

Sooo, who is the target customer, Firefighters for back fires? It doesn't have the range or capacity for military uses. I guess it would make a good grill starter.

[@thelovertunisia]

Flamethrower = best self defence. Guaranteed result.