Testing Exothermic Flamethrowers

[@OrdnanceLab]

We wanted to get this out sooner, but the rocket project was as huge undertaking in both effort and time. This is just one of many videos we will do on flamethrowers. We have some other models on hand we will put to the test. We just have to be careful as we do not have the greatest luck with burning things at the range.

[@russellzauner]

The first unit seemed tight in operation, when you released the trigger it was easily seen "chopping" the stream and it also appeared to ignite as it should (ignition was similar every shot and behaved consistently). I feel I would have no problem operating this in a safe and controllable/contained manner myself and I am a novice at flamethrowers - talk about saving a lot of work if you have a big yard, though. I would also bet it is great at surgically destroying in ground yellow jacket nests, which can randomly appear in woods or fields here. The second unit's fuel cutoff valve is junk or nonexistent. You can see the pressure spin down with unburnt fuel appearing to drop closely to you or even on your foot while the end of the stream is still on fire. Terrifying. Don't buy this at home, kids.

[@Rustyer266]

im curious if you are able to add a small amount of motor oil to the gas + diesel mix to increase burn time and effectiveness on a target shouldn't make the mixture too thick

[@chrisgriffith9252]

This flame thrower steam appears similar to the the in the movie Aliens.

[@CaptainBill22]

Tell me your contact over at Exothermic is named "Hans".

[@aaronbest747]

What if you put 91% isopropyl alcohol in the flame thrower????

[@kmech3rd]

An Endothermic Flamer would be a strange concept indeed...

[@OrdnanceLab]

Not our first choice in naming a flamethrower company. But it gets the job done.

[@isaacm1929]

​@@OrdnanceLab Now we need a endothermic one. It would be fun

[@OldManAzeban]

Isn’t that how Beto identifies?

[@kmech3rd]

An Endothermic Flamer would be akin to Mr Freeze's gun from Batman. Be a lot of fun to freeze a home invader into a block of ice for the police...

[@theanzac208]

It would probably be something like the cryolator from fallout.

[@victormartin2774]

BROTHER , GET THE FLAMER . THE HEAVY FLAMER!!! As a pyromaniac I must say that I enjoyed all the gratuitous flame content that was in the video, thanks to both of you at Ordnance Lab! If Jake Lambuth is reading this know that I appreciate your explanations. To everyone stay scientific where you are legally allowed to do so.

[@ElementalMaker]

This just really makes me want to devise an endothermic flamethrower

[@OrdnanceLab]

We would have chosen a different brand name for them like SuperFantastic Flamers.

[@trolly4233]

It would be a microwave gun. I think you know what happens to food left in a microwave for too long…

[@kirkc9643]

Dude, where you been? and PS I'm thinking these are using automotive high pressure fuel pumps....diy project right up your alley

[@mk6315]

I think if a flamethrower lets the thermic go endo it blows up

[@johnladuke6475]

@@OrdnanceLab Honestly I was disappointed, I didn't realize the video title was the company name. What I figured was that Mad Scientist Jake had devised some kind of flamethrower based on an exothermic chemical reaction. Like if manganese heptoxide could behave long enough to be pumped and sprayed. Because I would totally watch a video about that kind of thing. Just sayin.

[@a15thcenturysuitofgothicarmor]

"Well I didn't want to kill him, I just made the attacker a little toasty until he stopped."

[@kmech3rd]

Similar to my justification for using a Can Cannon for home defense... "He came into my house uninvited, and I offered him a free beverage. The velocity of that free beverage should not matter."

[@markpowell5654]

Nice to have you all back from UK

[@sheldoniusRex]

Idea here. Maybe not a good one but here goes anyway; you could see if vehicle mounting reduces range from the flame thrower. I.e. measure range in the forward and 90 degrees firing positions at 5 mph increments.

[@OrdnanceLab]

That could be fun. Mike bought a go kart that we could modify.

[@markhunter2342]

I can see that going badly, pissing into the wind with very "Exothermic Piss"

[@lavalevel69]

I have one...an 80/20 mix of gas to diesel is what i found works best

[@jlambuth]

Seems to be the ideal ratio

[@gerdiopedacosta7416]

For me is 33/77 ratio of diesel and gas respective to them

[@dustinbrueggemann1875]

@@gerdiopedacosta7416 That adds up to 110%...

[@muskyman1018]

In case you spill 10% while topping off.

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

Just got one this past week, but we're under a no-burn order right now.☹

[@IonOtter]

Fire Chief: "Very sorry about your house, sir. Can you tell me what happened?" Former Homeowner: "Well, I saw this video on KZbin..."

[@OrdnanceLab]

One has to wonder how many stories have started with "well, I saw this KZbin video and...."

[@johnladuke6475]

@@OrdnanceLab Nobody starts the story that way. They wait until the end and trail off with "it worked on KZbin..."

[@plepgeat]

As a defense attorney, I submit that a flame thrower is less lethal than a center-fire rifle and that you used it on humanitarian grounds.

[@r000tbeer]

Flamethrower quirks and features, awesome!

[@jeckol3200]

I am a simple man. Ordinance lab puts out a video I watch happily.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Yall might want to get some tips from ballistic high speed channel. That channel has blown up in just months.

[@kylemcclureazadsalahazadi]

Totally missed opportunity: "Liar, liar, pants on fire!"

[@OrdnanceLab]

Sean is slacking with the one liners.

[@V3RTIGO222]

Honestly new 'WW2 style' flamethrowers would be extra cool using a napalm compatible electric pump. Frankly electric pumps are just way simpler, compact, and easy to use (I've seen a number of fancy water guns that use an electric pump to both fill the reservoir and shoot).

[@jholotanbest2688]

You need the backpack full of fuel to get that good range and burn. Also very nice on tanks.

[@OrdnanceLab]

Another brand sent us a backpack model to test. We are testing it when we are done with our travels in Europe.

[@jholotanbest2688]

@@OrdnanceLab Very nice. You brining the good content.

[@bashkillszombies]

When your flamethrower has the range of a sports bottle you're using the wrong kind of flamethrower.

[@dustykh]

I wonder how these behave with other types of non viscous fuels, like alcohol or biofuels

[@OrdnanceLab]

We didn't test those fuels yet, but we figure they would handle them well. We can def make a video to see how they perform.

[@forfun6273]

@@OrdnanceLabmaybe try mixed gas. Not sure what it would do. Feel like it would make it burn a little bit longer and wouldn’t make it too much thicker where it would clog it up. Try like 50:1 and 25:1

[@forfun6273]

Or maybe do a 50:1 with some 90w oil instead of 2 stroke oil. I using a little old motor oil to start a campfire works great. Not exactly sure how the EPA feels about it though.

[@TheSpookiestSkeleton]

@@OrdnanceLab I'm guessing it'd be more like a body spray flamethrower because of the tendency of alcohol to evaporate quickly. Might form a rich mixture with the air too quick and flash in your face, might wanna wear a jacket

[@kaboom4679]

How about t butyllithium or trimethyl aluminum ? Chlorine trifluoride ? FOOF ? Brush and leaves are child's play . Let's incinerate some asbestos !

[@Wheeling88]

That's cool as heck!!! I want one ! As for self defense yeah maybe questionable. But build a man a fire ,he's warm for a day ,set a man on fire ,he won't ask you for crap again😎.. great video 👍👍👍👍👍

[@OrdnanceLab]

They work best when used for turning brush piles into bonfires in a short amount of time.

[@ralphrutherford2583]

Keep up the great work- Richard Prior reference: priceless

[@soggycracker5934]

So, these are fuel tanks, strapped to bombs... Nice! The Mounties are really sweating this one.

[@soggycracker5934]

@Andrew The battery...

[@fatman4792]

should check out the xl 18 by throwflame make a good napalm mix and go out to 100ft range

[@OrdnanceLab]

We have that one as well. It's next on the testing schedule.

[@alexandrosskoufos8729]

I love that this channel can exist

[@OrdnanceLab]

We are here for your entertainment and education. Edu-tainment if you will.

[@samrowland2816]

I've just come across something I think you guys would be perfect to test, and would fit nicely in your improvised ordnance niche. It's the 'Grenade No76. Hand, Anti-Tank'. A self igniting incendiary intended for use by British Home Guard units early second world war.

[@minigpracing3068]

Seems like a decent tool for lighting back burns to fight wildfires, a bigger tank might be good though.

[@herms0069]

They make a backpack that has a 2.5 gallon tanks gives 4 mins of burn time

[@muskyman1018]

3.3 I believe, I just ordered one, hasn’t arrived yet.

[@markumoeder]

Thats just an fire exist-inguisher spot on.

[@RangerOfTheOrder]

Could you theoretically use a mixture of gasoline and cooking or motor oil to just slightly thicken it? Not as much as napalm, but thicker than diesel.

[@gary4332]

I love my UBF. Also bought the backpack attachment for it. Absolutely love the 4 minutes of fire it gets me

[@christiandunbar532]

Could you run oil through it?

[@gary4332]

@@christiandunbar532 never tried it. I know they say only gas and diesel but I would bet if you mix oil in there with it it'll be able to burn it no problem as on as it isn't too thick

[@awsomedude9111]

Really would be interesting if you had a Vietnam M2 Flamethrower. Would like to possibly make my own without any electric pump, or at least understand how it works.

[@motosk8er2]

Back when I was in my late teens I modified an old discharged fire extinguisher (ironically) to be refillable with gas and compressed nitrogen. Had a small propane torch as the pilot light. Thing threw flames like 30ft 😂.

[@kirkc9643]

high pressure fuel pump

[@awsomedude9111]

@@motosk8er2 Wow that actually sounds like what I am looking for. Might have to pick one up on ebay.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Functioning M2s are very rare and collectible, so that'd be an expensive investment. ForgottenWeapons has a good video on the thing, describing how it works.

[@johnscarborough4746]

"cocaine is a hell of a drug" R. Pryor.

[@OrdnanceLab]

Lol

[@honeyforce996]

If you know anything about naval operations, can you talk about the similarities between the Ivan Khurs attack, and the USS Cole? I'm just curious how explosives are arranged for a boat attack, and why the boats pull up side-to-side. Someone said it was because you have to keep weight off the bow (or the boat will plow). And that the 2 vessels need to be close together for maximum effectiveness. I'm mostly curious if the explosives get arranged in some way, to create a concentration of energy. Maybe they are also in some container, or have a projectile in front of them, to try to penetrate the target with? Or if they just get piled in haphazardly, and maybe the water concentrates the blast towards the target. Cool channel, thanks for sharing the knowledge.

[@filippomori8632]

Use a ballistic torso such those of garand thumb with anfo etc. A thing that I always wanted to understand is the energy absorbed by someone who is not in the “primary sphere” of the explosion. And the amount of damage at various distances.

[@societl]

Those are very expensive and using a flamethrower on them would just be burning chemicals. They are upwards of one grand each.

[@johnstandfell9458]

Hey guy's I always get a bang out of you're video's please keep up the excellent entertaining videos

[@jochensteinkopf3816]

Nice video, guys👍 Next det-cord and shaped charges vs. ballistic dummy "zombie" heads and torsos.

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Have you guys tested the M202 Flash? We tested them back in the 1970s and results were interesting

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

The M202 FLASH was a really cool idea for a weapon, but absolutely terrifying in practice. The pyrophoric payload would gradually eat away at the rocket casing and then potentially start a fire, and this was when in storage, I've heard that they were widely disliked and distrusted by many of those who had to carry them around as there's more than a few examples of the rockets detonating inside of the tube or right outside the muzzle. I'd take the M2 Flamethrower any day, that thing was engineered for safety and reliability.

[@terryqueen3233]

Those things are awesome, I saw them demonstrated on Canadian prepper

[@russellzauner]

if you put this on a gimbal and point at the sky, you could use computer firing like for fireworks shows to puff balls of fire into the sky and draw pictures and words - at night it would work like one of those persistence of vision clocks lol

[@OrdnanceLab]

You just gave Jake a new rabbit hole to dive into.

[@johnladuke6475]

"And that's why Ordinance Lab is now fundraising for the trip to Burning Man."

[@mordechaimordechai]

Mind is fascinating. I clicked because i was intrigued by endothermic flamethrowers

[@n0jy]

"I don't know if I would have turned into Richard Pryor..." what a hoot! I wonder how many can relate to that, nowadays?

[@themidnightbandwidth]

y'all need a dakota fire hole, and a budget to clear the range. that sounds like some fun right there.

[@AKAtheA]

can this run on jet-A? Viscosity should be similar to diesel, but it's heavier hydrocarbons...

[@seanOfLegend]

How are they with a headwind? For instance mounted on your front bumper driving 5-20mph

[@RabeHK]

Finally a flamethrower that can mount on my rifle for self defense

[@nato7.62mm4]

How about throwing a DIY flamethrower in the mix? Using a typical gas or electric pressure washer with a small propane torch fastened to the end of the spray wand as an ignition source fed with a similar 50/50 mix.

[@johnladuke6475]

I feel like putting flammable solvents through plumbing meant for soap and water will eat the rubber pressure seals and make the pump into a ball of fire. Maybe not right away, but sooner or later, and without any warning.

[@nato7.62mm4]

@John La Duke Valid point I suppose, however there are pressure washers with auxiliary tanks designed to hold decreasing agents most of which are of a volatile petroleum base, so....

[@johnladuke6475]

@@nato7.62mm4 So... now I need to go shop for such a pressure washer for what I swear is an unrelated reason.

[@nato7.62mm4]

@John La Duke Wel.... i seriously doubt anyone expects YOU to do anything.... however if one were to make a suggestion i would reccomend you jump a little higher so the point of.fact that there is nothing special about the hose.or seals doesnt zoom past overhead without you being able to grasp it.... I only made the original comment because I saw "Whistling Deisel" do that very thing on his channel. So....

[@johnladuke6475]

@@nato7.62mm4 Well if you're going to be insulting about it, then you've clearly had the point go "whistling over" your (obnoxious and rude) head that gasoline will eat any rubber or plastic other than neoprene. Meaning that if the seals, hose, and any other plastic parts aren't neoprene, they will fail and leak. Catastrophically. Maybe not tody, maybe not tomorrow... but someday, and for the [very short] rest of the operator's life.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

There are plans online that are pretty easy to find for a military grade flamethrower using Amazon parts for around $500. That would be a cool project to see. The king of random made a design like that too RIP.

[@OrdnanceLab]

Sucks that he died. He was great. We can def look into the concept for a video.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@OrdnanceLab awesome, thanks!

[@MarkHahn]

Very cool. I want one to mount to my AR. What a cool addition this would be. Probably not legal in my state lol. Cool video 👍

[@johnsmith-sp6yl]

only banned in new york and i think new jersey last i checked

[@FlyinZX10R]

The standard model is illegal in California. They have a California model that shoots a fireball for 10 feet and says California model on the box but the cops here would probably arrest you anyways

[@uzifouryoutwosay]

“Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts, Cayoneeeroooooo”

[@quantumenergysolutions9128]

Why not add/mix the thickener via a tank after the pump , if you want neypam ?

[@aaronbest747]

What if you put 91% isopropyl alcohol in the flame thrower ???

[@davidblack7184]

Lawyer ; " why do you have a flamethrower attached to your ar "? Your response should be one word " Xenomorphs " . Lol

[@AWStuck]

Is there an edit error at the 2 minute mark? Great channel 👍🏻been watching for a long time

[@edi9892]

As a Chemist, I'd love to see an endothermic flamethrower. LOL.

[@Sniperboy5551]

That Richard Pryor reference was perfect

[@rickyricardo3551]

A suggestion for a future video. I know finding the casting would be the hardest part, but a video of old gernades would be cool, something from around mid 18 or 19th century. I know ot not the easiest thing to do but it'd be cool since there are no videos of anything like that in action.

[@vonrechner9618]

Fire marshal Bill 😂

[@Kadorja]

Love the Richard Pryor reference 😂

[@DH-.]

By any chance do youz guys set up a fire work stand in july

[@matthewcomfort7719]

could you try making an endothermic chemical thrower??

[@whittytrich6150]

All i can picture is jim Carrey with a flamethrower. The jumpsuit makes it 10x better hahaaha

[@the.shotgun.approach]

that thing is AWESOME!

[@herms0069]

Use a mix of diesel and two cycle mixed gas that has given me my best results in the pulsefire long range tourch.

[@krismccrackin7113]

I know this is a couple month late but I’m sure a lot of us would love to see you guys do a video or series on why you don’t play with explosives.

[@hewfil1]

I know this video is months old and this will probably not be seen but. At the mention of those not being able to use a thickening agent. But what about something like ATF (trans fluid)? It is extremely flammable, is a detergent based product so it's thin, and mixes well with diesel.

[@Jkauppa]

hey boom dudes, try plexiglass vertical square deflection riot shield, idea is that any cone side (you can make it 8-star also with a gap) will deflect all pressure coming from that side, like a super light pillbox that is also a mini personal soldier field tent (if only a 45 degrees angled front facing riot shield)

[@meanman6992]

I can articulate a reason, same reason they were used in war. The threat hid behind something. They were good at fishing out a threat and simultaneously neutralizing the threat.

[@scottinWV]

Swap out the pump with a Holley high flow/high pressure fuel pump and you could spray nearly anything through it.

[@HarshmanHills]

Fire GOOD!!!

[@lukasgoza4493]

Can you guys please build a smoke launcher like seen on tanks? I've been working on my own diy version for a couple years; but only a day or two a year. Not much progress has been made, but you guys are professionals; jow would you do a diy smoke screen launcher?... Would make a great video!

[@ians.1746]

You all should do some work on Greek fire! Maybe see if you can mix up something that resembles this old tech. Supposably it's a lost science! Drachinifel out of the UK did some things on his channel but he could use some help from some American ingenuity.

[@Sion_Revan]

The only thing more dangerous than a flame thrower is the man holding it

[@lifeoftraveling8330]

3 parts diesel to 1 part gas is the mixed used for control burns

[@jonathanrogers9961]

What about kerosene, or oil lamp fuel?

[@seventeenshaun6424]

Will the 3d printed rockets be coming back?

[@Rayneman215]

Lmaoooo 🤣 🤣 🤣 when you said that Richard Pryor joke I died laughing good luck explaining that shit to any lawyer I thought it was even funnier how the torch sound mimicked a slight scream of the victim as you torched the target dummie

[@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778]

How does the Boring Flamethrower compare

[@thinman4648]

What would happen if you put the Molotov cocktail mix in it?

[@OrdnanceLab]

It would struggle. The pump isn't designed to handle viscous fluids. Molotov mixes are just too thick for it to work effectively.

[@ejharbet6390]

answers the question what round for Japanese bunkers?

[@galileofrank5779]

Did you forget to edit out the second take of that diesel fuel mix thing in the beginning

[@johnladuke6475]

Whoa, hey, some things you can't joke about. I can't possibly test whether napalm really sticks to kids! Even if I could get them to stand still for the test, the little buggers all know there's not really any candy in the van.

[@thedraftdoctor1]

as a felon, mine is my go to home protection device

[@brandongibbs3016]

House burns down. Buys flamethrower

[@Flying0Dismount]

What ATF form do you need to fill out to be able to test napalm on kids?

[@OrdnanceLab]

Knowing them, they actually might have such a form.

[@samuelletner7492]

I'm looking forward to something by extraneous attachments!

[@mrstraw153]

And why did you keep burning the intruder? Because I missed a spot

[@biamboibifuro817]

I'm new to this KZbin channel. Hello to the FBI agent monitoring me.

[@ChrisCVW]

Lit!

[@MISANTHROPE0-p3c]

3:58 is when the fun begins

[@cownuggets9124]

does anyone know why the molotov can cannon video got taken down?

[@thetoasterisonfire2080]

Explosives? Flamethrowers? These guys are becoming the DRG driller

[@F_L_U_X]

Test how far it shoots straight up

[@OrdnanceLab]

We debated on that test. The issue is that we risked damaging the flamethrowers due to fuel falling back.

[@fakename7255]

Skit idea for a short. You know the toy "Bop it!"? Play with that but add an instruction. "Pull it!", "Spin it!", "Bop it!", "Bip it!"... shrug... *boom*

[@Rayneman215]

When you said Well 🤣🤣🤣😭

[@EdgarFriendly-op3rn]

2 cycle oil?

[@intellectualiconoclasm3264]

What about self-defense against honest, yellow-jackets and wasps? I mean it kind of solved a bunch of issues at once.

[@Scorpac]

i liked the ATF shirt you wore at IWA

[@HenrikSherwood]

You guys should test steel helmets to see how good they are at stopping shrapnel and other explosive propelled flak.

[@garystewart8349]

You look more like Ray Charles than Richard Prior. 😆

[@kaliumnitraat]

💪💪💪

[@user-pc8tb7hg1lHandlesRDumb]

One sweet brush burner! There's no reason not to be able to light the burn pile with that tool.

[@Dakota-je9os]

It’s still wild to me that we used these type of weapons in war 😮

[@BILLSNOTDEAD]

all is fair in love and war.