Testing my Li-Ion Drone Battery vs. Li-Po

Today, You will learn how the custom-built Li-Ion drone battery compares to its Li-Po counterpart. Let the experiment begin!
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[@Quadcopterguide]

Would you give up max performance to gain 30% longer flight times? Why or why not? Let me know!

[@NINJ4Plays]

Yea

[@NINJ4Plays]

I will

[@typxxilps]

of cause performance ... even though I had assumed you would have build a Mavic 2 or so battery hack ... And if you spend enough care and money for right cells then you get even higher discharge rate. Would love to see such Mavic 2 hacks ...

[@travisSimon365]

Of course, for long distance flying. In fact, I've just built my first 6S li-ion and am currently charging it for the first time (also with the intent of building a 6S2P pack soon). But yeah, I plan to have one Li-ion and like 12 LiPos, as mostly I like doing flippy floppies. Also, for all the people talking about DJI drones, I'm pretty sure they would all be running Li-ion now anyway. They're not punchy, but have amazing battery life. I can't imagine them running Lipos.

[@Quadcopterguide]

You’d think right. All Dji drones except mini run lipo hv.

[@zeleacodreanu1]

I feel like a baby was sleeping in the next room when he filmed this.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey James, awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated!

[@marjamada]

Oh man I wish you lived in my neighborhood. These two vids, building and testing, are excellent and probably saved me some money. I just got a Rekon 7 Pro and plan to make lions as per your guidance. Didn't see links for Sony 18650.

[@Quadcopterguide]

haha thanks for dropping by!

[@hackerr2656]

this channel is worth subscribing 👍👍

[@Quadcopterguide]

Thanks hack err!

[@srqcrna]

Thank you for this video! Lipo can be fully charged for 2-3 days is there a limit like this for Li ion?

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Kevin awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated! Li ion’s aren’t as temperamental as lipos but they are still using lithium technology so I personally don’t like to keep them charged for long.

[@meinsla1999]

I would also like to bring up the weight differences in the batteries. If you tested these batteries with equal weight you could balance around extra cells and or extra storage in the Li-Ion packs to compensate for performance and still likely achieve the robust endurance. Albeit, I have neither the resources, knowledge, nor the time to experiment with these adjustments. This is only theorized using the numbers and information available to me.

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey TM thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Much appreciated! Perhaps, but my research shows that Li-Ion is where people turn for long flight times overall.

[@raiyanbashir1877]

The results blown my mind !! li on is best !!! great and helpful video , thanks a lot ! love from Bangladesh

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Raiyan thanks for taking the time to comment and watch, it is much appreciated!

[@Brutuszilla]

I am just getting into FPV Long Range. Still new to FPV, only on day 2. Working on the hovering for now and line of sight until better goggles come in next week. I ordered iFlights but I can see very well and there is no focus option. Anyway, I used to ride electric skateboards and remembered I had an old battery pack in the closet. Took it apart and there were 20 18650's in it, only 3 days of use. So for my Assis 280 explorer I am going to start experimenting with DIY packs. I laughed when you said it's for science. My whole life my saying has been, lets try it for science! We MUST experiment to move forward.

[@Quadcopterguide]

thx for watching! how have you been progressing?

[@ardscorner]

Excellent. Reading the comment about punch. The LiPo should give more.....but at a negative for flight time. LiPo batteries are angry....they are always ready to dump as much as they can as quick as they can. Good but not steady. Bit like running Nitros in your car.....or Hare and Tortoise. But you know this already and after achieving nearly 7 minutes more I would say a very positive result indeed

[@Quadcopterguide]

;) thanks for stopping by friend. Pretty exciting to not burn down the place and having it work 😂

[@ironmoli8682]

Muy buen video... Que tal quedará en 4s en lugar de 6s? Que diferencia de tiempo puede tener a cambio de la perdida de peso?

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Iron, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! Practice your english mate ;) that way everyone can understand you.

[@dronespanolfpv836]

Al contrario al usar 4s debes usar 2 baterías de 4s en paralelo para que sostengan alimentación a los motores, entre menos celdas se consume mayor Amperaje.. lo más importante estás baterías entregan muy lento su energía y si las sobre-exiges el drone caerá

[@dronespanolfpv836]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZSZpYekjJuBZ6s Ese vídeo lo explica 30min de vuelo con dos packs 4s baterías Li-ion en paralelo

[@nicofunke]

Is it possible to connect the battery pack with a dji mavic air? When yes, how?

[@J.H.Merkel]

I made 2 li ion packs from samsung, i have a 6s 5in drone and a 6s 10in drone i ran the packs in parallel and it just made weird sounds in the motors, i only did a hover test but not sure everything is nice a secure and properly soldered i was hoping this would work but i guess i have to do more testing and maybe my dji o3 and gps along with the fc and huge 3314 motors with 900kv , i was trying to see how or what iflight uses to make the fullsail 8000mah li ion pack but no deal i purschased a graphene lipo 6000mah and i get about 8 mins of cruising time

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey JH thanks for dropping by and subscribing! What do you think caused the weird noise? Some kind of voltage irregularity?

[@themusichallacademy2787]

This is really impressive, I'm using Samsung 40T 4000mah 9c 21700 batteries, built 4 cells and flight time on my 5inch was 23.56 minutes.

[@arielelijah1282]

Does DJI Drones has BMS on their battery? Without a Discharge even once a month the battery would swell up unlike those batteries has BMS.

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey there, yes the DJI batteries all have BMS onboard.

[@ramudu4410]

Hi bro I have a quad with spec 920kv motor with 1045 propeller Apm2.8 30a Simonk esc Djif450 frame M8n GPS and fsi6 to and rx Currently I'm using 11.1v 2200mah battery Ian getting a flight time of 3 min when I hang my mobile phone to record video without gimbal Can u plz suggest which li ion cells should I use and in which configuration Pls help me out

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey there, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! It all depends on how many amps you are pulling. LiIon cant provide as many amps as lipo. You shouldnt really pull more than half of the rated amps out of a li ion pack. So if the cells are rated at 30amp you should pull 15amps mostly. Hope that helps.

[@whome7004]

Yes I would, Did you make the BIGGER BATTERY YET?

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Charles not yet. Have a few other projects which snuck their way in :) stay tuned.

[@Noobmaster-uq9cw]

But isn't the c rating of the lion less??? Like my drone draws 60 amps of current while my lion can deliver only 5 amps max at a time any solution for this other than lipo...? Can I use a 1 farad or more capacitance capacitor in parallel?

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Random thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Much appreciated! The C rating for Li-Ion is less, you have to manage throttle more carefully.

[@likandros3633]

thank you for the video.but i have a question..are you sure that when connecting two packs in parallel you double the discharge c rating?i think it doubles only the capacity.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Likeandros, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! the voltage stays the same, the capacity doubles but since you are pulling juice out of 2 packs instead of one each pack only gets half of the energy pulled out of it at once, if that makes sense.

[@likandros3633]

@@Quadcopterguide yes i did the math and you are correct.c rating is the same but because it works in conjuction with amp/hour in theory it doubles.c(30)x3000mah(3)=90 c(30)x6000(6) in parallel180. available current draw.

[@search620]

Can you double the battery capacity and try again? I would like to see what is the max fly time on this drone with double of capacity. maybe you will get 40min' fly time...

[@jon_collins]

Many people have lost their DJI Mavic Mini 1 due to the voltage sag at the end. Yes the mini 1 has li-ion, the mini 2 now has lipo.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Jon, awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated! Hadn't heard much about that. One must always respect the craft in the sky and it's power requirements getting home if you are flying a bit further away :). The mini 2 is great.

[@ChrisParayno]

User error.

[@itaimiller9116]

Awesome video! Found you as was researching behavior of Li-Ion batteries. I recently built a 4 inch long-range drone and got a pre-made Li-Ion 3S, 3000mAh battery. It seems to only get to 4V per cell when fully charged, and then drops really quickly for the first 1V overall (so about .3V of each cell). Is that normal or is it a quality issue with this battery? Any quirks in behavior you can share would be really helpful as I'm trying to get up the knowledge and confidence to send it out pretty far. Thank you!!!

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey Itai, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! Sounds like there is an issue with your battery or the voltage meter in the quad. I would be very careful. That does not sound like normal behavior.

[@sparsh_editx]

Building a 7 inch drone efficiency long range and endurance drone , definitely will be using molicel p45a cells in 6s 1p self made battery.. looks safer than polymer battery, also it's just a hobby for me so not be flying everyday which in lipo case might degrade the battery more compared to li ion battery that has longer and more charge cycle.. my main purpose is just to have a cinematic mavic like drome build. Not flying fast and acro just going high altitude 😅

[@markgiles8527]

I want to do this. I would take longer flight time any day.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Mark, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! Not too bad to do, if you are already familiar with building an FPV quad for example.

[@cyan4455]

something strange is that the old mini 2 had 27 mins of fight time till forced landing and it was 23 mins on the mavic mini the lithuim ion lasted shorter then the lipo

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey cyan, that could be due to many factors.. Age of the battery, ambient temperature, altitude, humidity levels, etc etc.. total capacity of each pack.

[@InfinityVision]

Because the voltage levels of lithium ion vs lipo is slightly different, especially when fully discharged, couldn’t the drone do an emergency low voltage landing before the lith ion pack is truly discharged? I mean if the Low voltage threshold of the drone could not be manually adjusted down. Some people may try this on drones with fixed LVC settings.

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey InfinityVision, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! You can double check settings in betaflight and your ESC firmware to ensure that the lower voltage won't trigger a disarm.

[@manaskhandelwal1634]

Hey Can you tell me how do you then charge the li ion battery pack ??

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Manas, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! I use a charger like the one i have linked in the description.

[@XtremMaker-ev8jm]

Can I use 6000mah 3c battery for my drone how much eprox flight time I get plz reply {fan from India 🇮🇳❤️}

[@Quadcopterguide]

thx for watching!

[@prasetyobudi8566]

hi..does li ion 18650 work to mavic air 2

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey there, not without taking apart a factory pack and trying to jerry rig it..

[@mosephina]

Hi, thank you for this. Have you abandoned lipo for li-ion; indefinitely? From a quad flying style perspective, would lipo be better suited for those who fly their quads acrobatic style, and li-ion for those who fly their quads in a cruising style?

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey again, thanks for checking out another video. Also a great question. I would not say that I have abandoned LiPo. Your presumption for LiPo for Acro and Li-Ion for cruising is a fair assessment currently. I can pull close to 200amps out of the 7" quad, if my amp meter is still calibrated on-board, and that on a li-ion would surely cause it to just plummet out of the sky, hopefully without a fireball haha. For larger quads that can carry liion packs, preferably in parallel, i would say it is definitely for cruising. Let's see if this changes in the future.

[@mosephina]

@@Quadcopterguide Thank you for your reply I'm learning about the electrical aspects of FPV. Is it correct to say that batteries wired in series increase how long a given power is available, and batteries wired in parallel increase the overall power available, but that overall power increase is not necessarily available for the same amount of time as those batteries wired in series.

[@Quadcopterguide]

It’s the opposite. So in series you add the voltage. That’s how a 6s pack is 22.2v. Parallel let’s you combine the mAh of the packs.

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

You might want to browse what I can do with a 10inch quad and a 6s2p pack. Is it as nuts as a 1800mah 6s LiPo? No but I can still fly quite hard with lithium ion. Have run lithium ion on 3.5in all the way up to 13in x-class. It is also not worth flying much below 3v per cell. 3v in the air and the goal of landing at a worst of 2.8v per cell in the air when flying. Voltage sag is quick from 3.2 to 3v per cell and downright horrible below 3v per cell. Bench marks I have hit 20min on 3s 1404 3700kv on 3.5in landing at 3.2v. From 4.2-3.6v I fly the drone fairly hard going to around 70% throttle. I used a current meter in line with the battery to hold the drone down and load the props to find where throttle gives me about 20amps max. 23min on 6s2p 2806.5 1300kv on 7in landing at 3v per cell. 40mph cruising the entire time. 9min on 6s2p 3115 640kv on 10in landing at 3.6v per cell. Hitting 50+mph with ease while having plenty of power to pull out of dives while doing matty flip type maneuvers. Honestly best flying LithiumIon combo I have hit on to date. 18min on 6s4p 4214 400kv on 13in landing at 3v per cell. Cruising speed nearly 50mph the entire time. This build is a bit under powered and really needs to be on 8s to properly pull out of dives. Have a 10in deadcat frame(was meant for 12in props but biblades cause too much vibration over triblades but power was better with 12in APC MR props) that I designed that can also run 6s4p but have not given it a lot of attention. Sweet spot has been 10in 6s4p and built light. Lastly, try the Sony ...edit (had typo meant VTC5D) instead of VTC6A. Slightly less capacity but slightly better continuous current handling capabilities. Will be moving to a 8s4p(bridging 4s2p packs) for my Xclass.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey DividingByZero, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! It was great reading about your experiences with Li-Ion. I assume you used vtc6d for all your packs? It looks like here in the EU its VCT5D or 6A that is available. I agree about the quick drop in voltage after 3.2v. The 23min on your 7" with same specced motors is very respectable. What frame and setup do you have on the 7"?

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

@@Quadcopterguide had tried VTC6A. But no, prefer VTC5D. Had typo abov3 meant VTC5D not 6D. Slightly more current capability for slightly less capacity. Frame for 7in is Project 399 Super G in a deadcat config. Have a fair amount of detail on my builds and what I am flying from past 3-6 months experimenting with Lithiun Ion.

[@tombadger8699]

@quadcopterguide You need change something in the betaflight before you connect Li-ion battery? or just straightaway you connect battery and just fly ? I have 4s drone and use Li-po all the time. I wanna swap to Li-ion.

[@Quadcopterguide]

thx for watching!

[@Paul-je5vx]

I would have liked to see your battery temperature after landing, that is a good indication of how hard they were working. I made 3s2p 18650 pack some time ago, the LG cells I used got way too hot even though the current draw was 1/2 the rated max. But I want to try again with better cells for the long range quad I'm busy building. For cruising / exploring, I happily give up performance for duration.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Paul, awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated! The cells were warm but definitely not hot. Will have to measure temp next time.

[@furefpv1924]

How to you charge these batteries??

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey Fure, any decent LiPo charger will have a Li-Ion setting. Hope that helps!

[@ThaReilDeal]

i bought a 3000 mah 4s lionpack do i charge it on lipo setting on my charger?

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Jamie, awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated! If your charger won’t charge li ion correctly you can research if you using lipo on yours is also ok. I have done it on mine. Your mileage may vary.

[@rocheuro]

this is a very very good flight time (hover) for FPV drone. this is serious!.

[@Quadcopterguide]

thanks rocheuro!

[@championgamingtechnology6377]

Amazing Sir, Can I use "Ni-Cd AA 1000mAh 9.6V" battery in my drone? It is battery of rc car

[@Quadcopterguide]

i would not do that.

[@vindulaherath6400]

how can I charge this? is it safe to charge overnight? I mean, is there a protection?

[@Quadcopterguide]

see my answer to your question in the other video.

[@pattywaktdiy4175]

I run a DJI setup...the FC has a dedicated DJI plug so I know it's getting regulated voltage. If I fly at 60-70% throttle for any length of time it just shuts down and crashes. I can hover and meander along just fine but if if I accelerate (slowly) to about 60% I can fly like that for about 5 seconds and then it just shuts off and hits the deck hard! I fly a 7" Kakute F7 AIO DJI flight controller. Anyone else have a similar issue? I can't figure out if the battery is failed/can't recover like it should or this setup is not compatible with a DJI setup for some reason.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Pattwakt, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! That doesn't sound ideal at all. Initial suggestion is of course trying a fresh battery. To me it sounds like it is either not supplying enough voltage, or something is drawing too much voltage. Next step I guess is to try another FC.

[@vitaliesanchevici1726]

Hi, i got M1 pro drone, and I want to ask if I can change the original battery with diy battery, ?

[@Quadcopterguide]

thx for watching!

[@williamstack777]

Im changing a LP battery to a LI battery. I have a 2 wire LI pack. But my old battery carriage has circuit boards in it. It has a Blk & Wht wire I dont know where to connect them so the battery still works as Intended. Can You Help..

[@Quadcopterguide]

hm theres more wiring required inside the pack than just the two wires.. If theres no balancer lead i would be a bit concerned.

[@kamaranmustaffa4226]

hi, is it possible to use 4s or batteryor more for dji phantom 1 i mean lithium ion battery

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hi Kamaran, thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment! Awesome! Theoretically it is possible. You have to check if the phantom runs LiHV or regular lipo first. If LiHV it will not work.

[@jvlsolutions3732]

Can i use the litiom pack on my fishing drone cita copter revo 3.3 we fly 1.5kg baits 500meters out

[@Quadcopterguide]

thx for watching!

[@MarcoAurelio1863]

Could you create a battery pack for mavic air till 50 min flight? I would be great full if you make a tutorial because with all the videos what I’ve seen about battery’s building, you are the once who explain precisely and well everything what someone should know about it. Anyhow, great job!

[@Quadcopterguide]

not currently planned. but an interesting idea.

[@peterbennett8810]

Do you make custom-built Li-Ion drone battery packs for a mavic pro?

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hi Peter, thanks for tuning in! Li-Ion won't work with the LiHV batteries used on most mavics. You would have to use a LiHV LiPo to expand it's battery if you wanted to do that.

[@peterbennett8810]

@@Quadcopterguide I use both LiHV and non Lihv lipos right now. why would it not work? Thanks

[@Bigbeardfpv]

What size heatshrink did you use for that ?

[@Quadcopterguide]

hey Chris, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! The shop i ordered from only had super XL which was waaaay too big. i think 22cm. I would definitely not recommend that size.

[@nerdylicious1814]

Hey could you explain abit about the C rating like will the lipo work for a 2200kv push motor

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey lec thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Much appreciated! C rating essentially let’s you know how quickly a battery can be discharged. You also need to know what your max amp discharge is of your setup. Only then can you figure out if the battery is sufficient.

[@munnu7685]

I had a drone and it has 1200 mah 7.4 v lipolymer battery I want to replace it by li ion battery of 18650 model is it safe for drone

[@Quadcopterguide]

As long as you get two cells in series it should be fine.

[@munnu7685]

Will highest mah or highest discharge rate effect the components of mother bord or drone

[@munnu7685]

I need ur help I got 2 18650 li ion batteries of 3.7 v each and 2200 mah and connected in series then attached to drone then it charges as usually but after charging is completed when I started drone it starts and it is flying just above ground just 2 cm above ground and with in 10 sec it the drone gives signal that battery power completed and then stops what to do pls pls🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@munnu7685]

I brought good li ion batteries but still problem

[@Quadcopterguide]

What drone and how did you attach to drone? Why did you attach to drone before changing?

[@mamoonrashid1025]

What is the name of the battery

[@Quadcopterguide]

i used the cells listed in the description below. Sony VCT6

[@mehdilamloum2531]

thanks for all informations

[@udaykumar5817]

Sir can try it with 3s battery, is it works

[@Quadcopterguide]

Any number of cells will work.

[@rashmiranjannayak3251]

perfect but how much the drone have pay load.

[@Quadcopterguide]

whats that?

[@RealKushrage]

Jawoll endlich

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Han! awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated! Great question regarding charging. Li-ion charge programs normally only charge the cells to 4.1v max. Certain cells such as the ones I used are meant to go to 4.2v. I use the lipo balance charge cycle as it also uses constant current/constant voltage to charge. Jo ich bin gerade in Deutschland. Antworte auch Englisch damit jeder mitlesen kann.

[@RealKushrage]

Okay nice :D Thanks for your answer

[@jacksonlogan5575]

Hello!! I have a question I am hoping you will see this. I have a dji phantom 3 advanced that I use as a fishing drone to carry shark baits out from the beach to around 300-400 metres, my drone has a max lift capacity of 1.6kg which is plenty for me currently but I was curious to if I make my own li ion battery pack would that hinder the ability of the drone to lift? I know you said you don’t have that instant discharge for performance but I’m always going slow taking 2 minutes to get to 300m and also lifting slowly so would that matter? Also with a lighter battery pack I could lift more and or bigger battery pack for same weight as my currently Li po battery for longer flight time and more sharks caught. If anyone has any information on this please don’t hesitate to comment on here

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Jackson, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! Adding weight like that would most likely draw more power than provided by Li-Ion.

[@Wreckedchevy]

I want some for my air 2 nice work

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Craig thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment! Awesome!

[@geordieboy77]

I found your video as I`m currently looking to build a battery bank for charging in the field with 18650s have you done a video on this? Thanks in advance

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Craig, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! What size battery are you going for? You could also use 21700 sized cells if you wanted. Would a 6s2P pack be enough for your needs?

[@geordieboy77]

Quadcopterguide you’re welcome! I’m going for 6s2 18650 setup

[@Quadcopterguide]

Awesome. It’s similar to this pack but of course double cells and a bit more complex wiring. If you design it out on paper, and doublecheck your work it should be a half way ok build. I haven’t made mine yet.

[@geordieboy77]

@@Quadcopterguide Thanks for your input. If you do build yourself one please do a video. Have a great day :)

[@Quadcopterguide]

Will keep that in mind :D Cheers dude!

[@Todd111]

Can I use Li-ion battery for a fixed wing vtol with 5 motors (4 for VTOL & 1 for cruise) ?

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Imran, awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated! It all depends on the power draw.

[@Todd111]

@@Quadcopterguide Can you explain power draw a bit further with an example since I'm a beginner.

[@Quadcopterguide]

No worries. So li ion batteries don’t produce as much Max simultaneous power or amp draw at once. You have to figure out what your max amp draw is and in which portion of flight. If you can manage to stay say 10-25% below the max amp draw rating on the li ion battery I would say it will work well enough to do the test.

[@Todd111]

@@Quadcopterguide If I compare the stall current of my motors with the max ampere draw rating of the battery, would that be a fair comparison ? Thanks for you response

[@Gary_Aviator]

Hi, Do you have any formula to convert Lipo to Li-ion pack ? How a 'c' rating is managed in li-ion compared to high c rating in lipo?

[@Quadcopterguide]

should be the same but be careful.. many manufacturers fudge C ratings.

[@technicalchannel6416]

Can we use lethimum ion battery for dron

[@Quadcopterguide]

thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Much appreciated!

[@technicalchannel6416]

@@Quadcopterguide thanks bro

[@technicalchannel6416]

@@Quadcopterguide if you don't mind can I call u if sand mobile number because I have much problem for making dron

[@technicalchannel6416]

@@Quadcopterguide I m from india

[@technicalchannel6416]

@@Quadcopterguide punjab

[@sweetcollegegirl960]

Hi bro I have a quadcopter With spec Dji f450 Frame Apm2.8 Fc 920kv motors 30a simonk esc 1045 propellers M8n gps Fsi6 tx and and rx If I make a battery pack like u will it work for me pls reply The nasty lipo are wasting my money as i just entered into the hobby iam nit having that much money with me Love from india

[@Quadcopterguide]

thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It is much appreciated! it all depends on amp draw. if the batteries you choose offer double your avg/max amp draw it will work fine. Otherwise you have to really be careful with the throttle.

[@sweetcollegegirl960]

My quad draws 39 amps which cells do u recommend and in which configuration Thanks for reading

[@sweetcollegegirl960]

Can I use this robu.in/product/orange-icr-18650-2000mah-25c-lithium-ion-battery/4 to make 4s2p or 4s3p

[@sweetcollegegirl960]

Bro pls reply

[@mechanix8198]

Do you need to change any settings in Betaflight when you go to li-ion from lipo?

[@Quadcopterguide]

hm great question. i would lower the low voltage cutoff.. otherwise it may cut before u draw "the same amount of juice" out of them... of course you gotta watch that stuff like a hawk.

[@amokostephen4206]

owesome

[@Quadcopterguide]

awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated!

[@vamshikrishna3359]

Love it

[@Quadcopterguide]

thanks for watching and commenting. I sure do appreciate it!

[@vamshikrishna3359]

@@Quadcopterguide thank you

[@dimasoktova1724]

Amazing...

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Dimas awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated!

[@hamzaghulam-c7l]

amazing now i dont have to pay much money and will get better amount of flight time ,love from pakistan

[@chinnamangu]

Can it be used in RC plane

[@Quadcopterguide]

thx for watching!

[@migs1121]

I'd like to see this with the evo pro 2 battery

[@Quadcopterguide]

thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Much appreciated!

[@furefpv1924]

Awesome content!

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey fure awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated!

[@furefpv1924]

@@Quadcopterguide just built two liion batteries myself. Really fun project :D

[@Quadcopterguide]

Very cool! What size and specs?

[@cjbh9516]

Best battery: Samsung 30t.. 4s about 300gr.. discharge...35A to burst Up to 60A...

[@MykeHawke-r9r]

Ty

[@Synic08]

I would have to feel the difference… but i really feel in a ground vehicle, this might be worth it for the weight… carrying speed is better than top speed, so it may be worth it…

[@jon_collins]

Just ordered 30 18650 cells - THEY'RE ON SPECIAL BLACK FRIDAY!!!

[@Quadcopterguide]

Very cool! Which cells did you go with?

[@jon_collins]

@@Quadcopterguide The Sony ones 3000mAh 15/30A

[@NYJayC]

Which site? I'm looking to buy some.

[@cjbh9516]

Lightweight Sony vt5. 20A discharge...burst Up to 30A..each cell 50gr..

[@JacobFerreros]

I bought a drone in color white [dosen’t have a camera] has it’s own lithium ion i didn’t make it the company did and has its own charger so i plug my drone

[@Quadcopterguide]

Nice!

[@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398]

Although the idea is pretty cool especially for long distance flying, I would have to say no. I say no because say I get out there a bit and for some reason I need that extra punch to get out of some kind of trouble. At the rate technology and innovation is going, it wont be long till someone designs a lithium or comparable output that lasts longer before to to long.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Trevor Doup hey awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated! With a parallel pack you get 60amps. Would be an interesting test how much peak you get for a very short burst. 60 amps is quite a bit.

[@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398]

@@Quadcopterguide that's not bad at all! Don't get me wrong I think a parallel pack is great and I'm very interested in gaining more time in the air. For distance flying it's a great idea. I'm putting together a distance rig now and gathering parts as I can afford.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Sounds cool ;) love building.

[@mightsnow3654]

Now do a 4000 Lithium-ion battery.

[@Quadcopterguide]

thx for watching!

[@archietheproto7706]

You aren't losing performance. The lithium ion batteries are capable of outputting the current required by your drone. It's just not so good for the cells to exceed the rated current

[@Quadcopterguide]

thx for watching!

[@ReggieRailSystems]

It depends of how much max performance you loose s "max" is subjective reasoning to each person. On mY Andy Shen Geyser Camera drone I would give 25% to gain a 1/3 more flt time.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Hey Reggie awesome you took the time to watch and comment! Much appreciated!

[@dsecretone.3913]

Hi Mr.Felix.

[@Quadcopterguide]

Noel Pons hey 👋🏼. Thanks for being here

[@davidcamera8464]

hope this helps

[@Quadcopterguide]

thanks david! Welcome

[@Fortitudoo]

You should let them go till they drop then u have a zero to zero comparison

[@Quadcopterguide]

good idea.. im too much of a chicken to deplete batteries that much

[@TECHnoman753]

100th lol 😜✌🏻 👁👄👁👌🏻

[@Quadcopterguide]

100th? :)

[@TECHnoman753]

@@Quadcopterguide 100th comment lol unless KZbin is lagging

[@Quadcopterguide]

@@TECHnoman753 ah haha ok gotcha. That’s pretty cool! Wonder if it’s 50 and it counts my replies or just original comments. 🤔

[@TECHnoman753]

@@Quadcopterguide oh wait wow ok I'm dumb yes u are right it counts any time anyone posts some in the comments section of a video I forgot 😅

[@NINJ4Plays]

First

[@Quadcopterguide]

Woot! Let me know what you think.

[@NINJ4Plays]

The vid was awesome bro

[@regwonham9582]

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[@Quadcopterguide]

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