Testing NEW Milwaukee M18 FORGE 6.0Ah Battery & What is PWR4!?

[@PhillyFixed]

I would have liked to see the XC6.0 HO compared rather than the 8.0 since the 6.0 has the Samsung 30T cells at 30A output, while the 8.0 has trades the higher output for more capacity with the 40T cells. Maybe for a future vid!

[@OhioPowerTool]

Good call, would love to really see some better tool testing with saws and grinders but harder show results. If you’ve done some testing with 12.0 vs 6.0 or 8.0 High Output is should be very similar performance. We are happy to see new PWR3, PWR4, PWR5 ratings on batteries, really hope those go on tools as well moving forward.

[@kelvinvasquez2499]

What Milwaukee need to do is make a battery that will withstand the power of the fuel sawzall. Usually what happens is that from so much vibration and abuse the battery will begin to break from the inside

[@ccadama]

@Ohio Power Tool. Thanks Jay and Nick for the info about the new Milwaukee M18 FORGE 6AH battery. It's interesting that Milwaukee decided to add battery cooling for their FORGE battery but didn't do it for their original M18 batteries like Makita always did for their LXT 18V batteries. So the original Milwaukee Supercharger has a fan but it only cools the charger while Makita's rapid chargers cools both the charger and the batteries. Wishing you , the entire OPT crew, and your families stay safe and well.

[@OhioPowerTool]

Thank you for always jumping in and sharing some useful feedback! The Forge batteries do have some internal cooling benefits from the fans, easier to see on the MX versions they had a demo at pipeline you could see pulling through the batteries. Obviously older M18 batteries are not build with that feature so 5.0s are not going to see big charging time gains. Older cell tech probably could not have taken full advantage like we are seeing today but even 10 minute boost would be nice. If not mistaken Makita had some sort of early patten on that technology for fans in chargers to cool batteries so not sure if that expired, or they found another way around or they just pay a small royalty for the privilege.

[@ccadama]

@@OhioPowerTool Thanks fir the feedback about patents. Ever since I learned and heard that Dewalt patented a work radio that also recharges batteries and Dewalt sued both Bosch and Milwaukee for putting recharger function in thier wirk radios back around 10 years ago, I'm sure the radio charger patent expired. I also wonder why some tool companies don't put certain functions in their tools and whether it'sa patent issue.. Didn't Jay mention that Milwaukee had their green light laser levels waiting in the wings until certain patents expired? Again. Thanks.

[@jimmyv2000]

The comparison should have been against 12.0, because that was it's supposed to be replacing. Most people buy the 12.0 because they need max torque, tightening and loosing. Not run time.

[@danlux4954]

I’m buying the 12.0 for max torque and run time.

[@elgayetas]

I'm the exact opposite, I'm looking for max run time, I ain't loosening heavy equipment tires or some shiet like that

[@jasonvandervalk3679]

I only just got back into the m18 tools again! I got the 1/2 cordless router, the power is awesome! I have 2 6ah xc. But I had to get the forge see how it works

[@danielherschberger6424]

If you look at the top of the charger where the batteries slide in you will see holes for the air to circulate to cool the batteries while they're charging.now I know the 6amp forge doesn't have holes in top of the battery to line up with the charger but I believe the 12 amp forge will have and that will circulate air through the battery

[@Reedith]

What I want to know is how are these going to stack up with four of them inside the power station or for 12 amp hour versions of these inside the power station I take that power station camping and use it to charge all of my electric scooters

[@RidgidRon]

I like the honest assessment, Thank you. A lot of times, you don't get that on reviews.

[@toolsdealsautomobiles6980]

You should use the Milwaukee M18 high output 6.0 instead of the 8.0 cause the 6amp has better discharge with a bit less run time

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

Was using grinders and rotary hammers with 3.0 XC batteries in almost 40Celcius heat outdoors, batteries kept overheating! Wonder if this Forge would keep cool and not shut down?🤔

[@OhioPowerTool]

We sure hope they will!

[@Whocares69123]

Will the old supercharger still change in 15 mins or is it just the new one

[@OhioPowerTool]

Old supercharger will not do the forge in 6x but will still be better than rapid charger, we would guess it’ll at least match 4x of high output but that’s just our speculation.

[@besimr.5072]

I bought a supercharger not so long ago This was my first thaugt

[@aaronolsen8787]

Thanks for the great video! Can't wait to try these forge batteries. Do you know if there are any plans for milwaukee to release a gen 2 M18 Surge ¼" hydraulic driver?

[@OhioPowerTool]

We haven't heard anything just yet but fingered crossed we will be seeing it soon!

[@aaronolsen8787]

​@@OhioPowerToolI'm trying not to get my hopes up as I've been waiting over 5 years for a Gen 2 M18 Surge. 😂 I really want one to come out though!

[@elgayetas]

​​@@aaronolsen8787the surge is underpowered, only housewives use it, since its a quiet too. A guy at homedepot told me everyone was returning it including me

[@chadsearle5012]

Is Milwaukee working on a new 3/4 inch impact wrench to replace the 2864?

[@OhioPowerTool]

Most assuredly they are! The 2864 came out a little while after the 1/2” 2767 so good guess is it’ll follow not too far behind that Gen 3 update.

[@michaeldidomenico6312]

Thanks Guys, great video. When are you going to have a new packout deal?

[@OhioPowerTool]

Thank you! Hopefully we will have one soon!

[@efektmurowany]

Metabo CAS aku uses cooling during charging from some time and it works great!

[@audiovideofreak1]

Doesn’t the heat generated by the SuperCharger doing it’s thing kill the batteries over time?

[@OhioPowerTool]

Putting it on the super charger should push more air and drop battery temperature faster with fan. It won’t generate heat that would impact the batteries.

[@Jorash_Barison]

What if I have zero interest in a dual m18 charger? I would buy a 1 port m18 super charger if it still charged my m12s. As they are currently selling this I would have to now lug around an extra charger for the 12s. I tell you, the convenience of the mixed 12/18 rapid charger is super nice. Nice enough that I haven't bought a charger that did just one of the voltages.

[@OhioPowerTool]

Hopefully we will see a super charger that can charge both M12 and M18 soon 🙏

[@kyleze1677]

1:47 same runtime based on the numbers. 6 ampere = 6 hours runtime.

[@OhioPowerTool]

If the tool/light/radio drew 1 amp. = 6 hours. Obviously most tools pull more than 1 amp so way less than 6 hour run time.

[@unclefester4626]

Ive had better reliability out of the 8ah batteries than I've got from the 6ah ho, and 12ah ho. Higher performance means nothing when the red/green flash happens to your battery.

[@Millzlane]

Waste of money honestly. 2 6.0 high output costs less than one forge. You tell me which is a better deal....

[@ddombos2]

Where can you find the dual HO 6.0 for less than $199?

[@Millzlane]

@@ddombos2on Amazon dude. Your welcome

[@OhioPowerTool]

We appreciate your feedback!

[@Millzlane]

@@OhioPowerTool you got it. But to go a lil deeper... Another $249 to get the 25 min charge speed? 🤷🏾‍♂️ come on. On top of that, if the forge 6.0 is giving same output as 12.0 than it's obviously going to die faster than the high output 6.0's It's disappointing. Not worth upgrading

[@ex8280]

When they going to make batteries out of lithium phosphate? I need a batteries that will outlive the tool. I'm not in the trade, I just need it to sit for years without use, until I need it.

[@OhioPowerTool]

They've probably got some in development, but most of the time it's just a pricing game. Nobody wants to pay $500 for a M18 battery even if it'll last 15 years...

[@MeMaTiok]

Testing.? Where is the test Man.? We didn't se any test.

[@doug667]

Between 3 and 4 minutes, seemed like great tests to me.

[@OhioPowerTool]

Pretty basic testing to be fair, ran 1/2" impact on Skidmore to see torque (bolt tension) produced and ran a few holes with SDS-Max rotary hammer. More testing to come as we get our hands on some of the newer tools, Gen 3 impacts and the like.

[@besimr.5072]

Just today i used the rotary hammer with an 12.0 and after 20 min chpping put it in the super charger and no charging 12.0 is a beast but for this rotary hammer not enough

[@strykerentllc]

No data on life cycle--as in how many drain to dead from full charge & then from dead to full charge? Inquiring minds want to know! CHOP CHOP! 😃

[@OhioPowerTool]

Hahaha we'll jump right on that clear calendars for a few months... unfortunately we don't get a great view of this in the real world for another year or so, but we are the warranty center for central Ohio so not only do we deal with all red items we sell but also a ton from the supply houses, hardware stores and big box customers. Good news is Milwaukee's batteries have been pretty solid for several years, the 9.0Ah was last one that had troubles but even that wasn't too terrible. We would bet the Forge batteries are going to be very solid.

[@strykerentllc]

@@OhioPowerTool Couldn't resist. LOL Thanks for the 2X packout deep storage units and the bonus red army hammer, guys!

[@jrandall5736]

Batteries have such a high markup. Not spending $200 on a single battery. If it is so good why doesn’t Milwaukee increase the battery warranty to 5 years? I guess in 6 months the “Max Forge” will come out and idiots will waste their money on that too. Buy older cheaper batteries. Get more bang for your buck

[@OhioPowerTool]

This is definitely a fair point! Just give it a few years and these will be the older cheaper batteries 😅 Hopefully we will see that warranty change though, fingers crossed!