Testing sockets - part 0

[@BatterseaBill]

Yes it's Xmas morning and I'm watching your vids, then I'll take my bandit out for a blast, perfect. No prezzies, no stupid jumpers, no Xmas decks, just a big plate of sausage rolls.

[@thatsuaveraptor4297]

+1 for bahco sockets. was doing some work on my dads nissan, trying to get the rear caliper hanger off. Had a bahco socket on a 15" breaker bar with a scaffold pole slipped over the end. Took 10 minutes of bouncing my whole bodyweight on the fucker before it broke free. Socket was fine, bolt was fine. Great tools bahco and super affordable for the quality!

[@dainsmart6237]

Usually satin chrome are made in Germany there is (Teng and draper expert) only non German, but I am sure elora tool's was sold to draper ,this could be where satin draper expert comes from.

[@martins7194]

Stahlwelle and Gedore get my vote. :) I personally usually try to avoid the stuff that's all too shiny and reflective. Also, I prefer sockets with the rough grippy bits.

[@SpartanMJO12]

You're fucking set for life if you ever want to take 20 steering wheels off at once LOL

[@Gassit]

I'v got a set of combination spanners branded Metrinch with the same weird profile as the KS socket. There quite handy for old rusty or butchered/rounded off nut as they put most of there pressure on the flats of the nut rather than the corners.

[@DC-gy5jn]

Just took delivery of a Teng 1/2" Drive 18mm spark plug socket this morning , it's got a rubber insert for the insulator , just stuck a spare plug into it and ooohhh ! like a glove . You would be hard pressed to find a better way to spend £7.74 . Proxxon have been around for donkey's years and have always had an excellent reputation for making precision mini lathes , milling machines and wood working machinery for model building , watch making and the manufacture of other small dimension projects . I've never had any experience of their sockets but imagine they would be shit hot ! Their socket sizes are laser etched so can't see that being an issue .They also make a range of Dremmel type tools . It's worth checking them out . Just browsing their torque wrenches at the minute .

[@LesNewell]

It might be worth comparing the wall thickness at the corners. I have only broken a few but they all split at the corner, which makes sense because that is the thinnest part of the wall.

[@Os.-]

Looking forward to this one! I'll go find one of your rants about 6 vs 12 point now

[@thebruise]

Looking forward to more of this, nice one

[@aki91111]

I can say that ks tools socket are good, its a bit weird shape but very hard to slip. Good for some old or bit rusted bolts or nuts...

[@cosmicsurfer5911]

Over the last 30 years my tools have migrated from Stahlwille to Wurth Zebra. In this country Stahlwille is hard to find and cost a damn arm and a leg.

[@deadcassette93]

Best revue I’ve come across in my f##kin’ socket sad as fook phase.. 🎉😂

[@bricofast]

Great video thanks, facom sockets, lenghts here from Portugal 🇵🇹

[@johnmitchell9705]

Awe, I like the Proxxon but your correct the labeling will rub off? I guess low cost comes with a price. Hopefully it will perform great where it counts.

[@andytaylor9032]

I know this is old now but picked up a set of 1/2 inch drive 6 point Franklin sockets seem pretty good after prolonged use

[@bikersquest]

I think the KS tool and Bergen sockets are meant to be something called surface drive sockets which is why they have that odd shape

[@rationalmartian]

Yes, I believe it was Snap on who developed them, man, must be twenty, twenty five years ago. I think they called it flank drive. The idea is that instead of driving on the corners where they could be rounded off, it drives more on the flat of the fastener. I think they adapted it, or adopted it to their ring spanners too, including combi's. A few years later they developed that weird open end too, to try to overcome the problem of flat keys (showing my years now) opening up and rounding off under stress.

[@williamarmstrong7199]

Yes they are and wonderful too. You will snap the head off the bolt before you round a bolt or nut using those. Bought a cheap set of 3/8ths surface drive 20 years ago and they have all survived all the misuse I have been able to throw at them. Replaced 3/8th Britool breaker bar twice and ratchet about 4 times. Sockets still brilliant. Forget everything else they are all total crap if not surface drive.

[@psykoklown874]

I remember when Snap-On came out with that design, and they touted that you could remove bolts with rounded heads. I put that claim to the test a few times, and they did indeed work. Their box wrenches had the same design. At the time, they were the only ones with that design, and spending the extra money for them was justified.

[@klucznik]

I'm still hoping they will be tested eventually...

[@DavidMcLuckie]

I did a review of a Hazet impact driver, I was informed by a viewer it's pronounced - "(hah-tset) - it's German for HZ, the initials of company's founder (-;"

[@MrMindreader2]

Hi Matt, Just an idea but would be interesting if you could test the strength of chains and disk locks. Would be nice to know how secure our bikes actually are!

[@dirtygarageguy]

I'd love to but I don't have the set-up at present - that's a lot of force required etc - what do you have in mind?

[@MrMindreader2]

Things like the Oxford big padlock shaped thing vs a chain. Like are these the kind of things that any fuck with some tin snips could slice through or if angle grinders were needed. Things like that

[@martinfrench1981]

Oxford HD Chain lock - I had to cut one off (Long story). Lasted less than 45 seconds with a battery angle grinder and an Inox disc (The weapon of choice for thieving scrotes) without me making a mark on anything else I'm all for seeing this too.

[@rationalmartian]

Should be interesting to see the results. And yeh, I'm a bit of a Bahco bumboy too. Best Movers/adjustable spanners I have ever used bar none. But I have a bit of a soft spot for them. I used to have two 12 inch Bahcos and a BIG fuck off barring screwdriver, along with a few other bits on my belt at all times. I used to be a Pit Fitter/Mechanic, Pretty much standard equipment for the fitters. Every now and again, depending on where I was working I may replace one Mover for a pair of 18 inch Stillie's. The Movers can be used as foot holds on girder work too. Seriously handy. Merry Crimbo Matt, and everyone else. Go and have a fucking minute. It's christmas. ;-)

[@butanetorch]

i reckon stahlwille because aeronautical and professional market.

[@WEGGYZZR]

Its fucking christmas eve ...give it a rest will ya....all the very best for christmas and new year bud!

[@TheAnigai]

Very interested to see the shootout between the best of the best ones here like the Facom, Wira etc although I kind of expect them all to be similar enough to the expectation you'd place on a high end tool from a well established brand. On another note, CK manufacture a lot of welding eqiupment in the United States and are considered high end for it however I had no idea they made tools.

[@vidmantask.4400]

Have a merry f**ing x-mas Matt! :D

[@edwinveening8537]

recently i was looking for a 8 mm socket with 12 sides, you almost would think they dont excist

[@renzowen]

Sailedlight 12 side 8mm... Seems like a nightmare about roundes bolts

[@allothernamesbutthis]

Halfords?

[@NooBiker]

Catching up with all your videos. Just wondering: was there ever a follow up for this? What were the results? I can't find them in the channel and the suspense is ki...nd of annoying me 😉

[@upsidedowndog1256]

I own expensive sets of sockets but find my old Craftsman sets the best to use.

[@rjauto7215]

Angry jester has the funny profile as well

[@gwpee1727]

I have a 1980's 6 point Draper 24mm socket,which gets occasional use,plus a 1970's Britool 12 point 24mm socket,if interested.

[@suzuki750stu]

Halfords ??

[@dave-rn7zd]

that KS & Bergen (the Bergen more so) socket looks like a sykes pickavant walldrive i use to use back in the day. on VW exhaust nuts fucking thing's would round off as soon as you look at them. a snap-on 6 side you would have to tap the socket on and hope ;). but the walldrive would feel lose but bite before the bad area on the flat part of the socket. will have to find them & send you a pic

[@gutserker]

Interesting thing. None of my sockets have that changing exterior diameter between the bolt end and the drive end. I have crescent brand and cheapo harbor freight. The harbor freight ones are impact gun sockets that weigh a ton

[@JunkCCCP]

Impact sockets are a different beast entirely

[@MM-cr7dq]

Merry Christmas (just happened here), what the pro's/con's with 6-point vs 12-point sockets

[@dirtygarageguy]

Already done the vid - search 12 point on my channel

[@stevebevan5104]

Where's the next part?

[@onhawaii]

HAZET and GEDORE are the ones I place my bet on...

[@onhawaii]

And if you break them you just send them back and you get a brand new one with no questions asked. But if they see banging on them or welding you get the finger.

[@hibbs79]

Interesting shit. 👍

[@allesklarklaus147]

The KS Tools don't seem to be that bad, using them at work quite often. Wrecked a few ratches but the sockets hold up. But how would you break say a 19mm socket in normal use anyway lol. The Hazet stuff is basically the german SnapOn and we have their torque wrenches for the good stuff which are just brilliant. I wonder how the wera stuff performs, I use their screwdrivers a lot - all different types- and they are really good. Proxxon should be good as well, like their ratches, 3/8" especially.

[@matmuffin1]

Cornell makes my favorite tools, but ohh Billy do you pay for it

[@tomas19cronin]

No Halfords socket? can't wait to see the rest of the test.

[@ryanmg92]

Tomas C I'm on it.... think I have some in the garage

[@chazphot]

He mentioned at the end, could only find it in 12 point.

[@tomas19cronin]

chazphot I know but he's testing one other in 12 point tho just be a nice comparison as its a pretty accessible brand for the home gamer if they have to pop out and get a odd size halfway threw a job.

[@adamsmedley4033]

I do and have worked at a tool shop, primetools.co.uk, for little over a year and a half now and in my opinion there’s nothing better than stahlwille, followed closely by wera then facom. German engineering just seems to be a cut above the rest.

[@dirtygarageguy]

I buy stuff from primetools. Shit name, but they have some awesome tools. You rate Wera ABOVE Facom? LOL

[@adamsmedley4033]

The Workshop yeah facom do a larger range and are very good for the price but I’d say the range that wera do is a little better designed and the QC more thorough. Just stay away from king dick that is complete shite

[@dirtygarageguy]

Old king dick used to be decent stuff but I'm talking years back

[@gwpee1727]

What utter rubbish,have been using King Dick tools since early 1980's,no problem.Still buy the odd King Dick tool.Still one of the better brands.If they are so bad,how come primetools sell them?

[@adamsmedley4033]

g w pee there new management ruined what did used to be a good brand, there’s now no continuity in items of the same part number and the quality control is terrible if not non-existent, all you’ve gotta do is get a look at the podgers or crow foot wrenches if you don’t believe me

[@jamhough22]

Measure the weight of them all individually?

[@Etrius666]

One word "unior" try those.

[@andrejprodan4016]

One of the Sealey must be a counterfeit, them bastards! Ripping off a fine manufacturer with heritage...

[@iamawatermelon9299]

Would love to send you my kamasa tools one, made in Japan, not sure when, but it's 12 point and was my granddad's

[@manny-xp9my]

weigh them as well as measure them...

[@TepcoCycleRepair]

No this is part 0

[@martinfrench1981]

I am surprised you didn't add what used to be British (Since taken over by Yanks I do believe) - Kennedy. I say this as I used to work for them and have a fair few of their tools (Senator and Kennedy - Now 'Kennedy Pro' apparently), and the quality varies wildly... From superb to about as much use as a bag of smacked twats.

[@ryanmg92]

Silverline are terrible, bought a cheepo brake flaring tool as it was one of those tools that the garage always supplied so never had my own, and only needed to make 1 pipe for mot, got one for like £8 thinking even if it doesn't last, I only need it to work twice, Turned up and the clamp/press component isn't drilled centrally so it didn't even work. If I can find it in the garage I will email you it compared to a proper one

[@dirtygarageguy]

LOL tell me about it!

[@ryanmg92]

The Workshop I will email or message you at some point with whatever I have spare the same size if you want a couple more. Would you like a cheepo impact 6 point just to show the difference. It's something I heavily recommend to anyone who is starting out, a set of £15 job half inch drive impact sockets, will never let you down, then if you want go for thin wall snap on etc when you have the money and experience to know if your gonna fuck something do so. With pretty much any impacts, you can hit them as hard as you want with a hammer braying them onto rusty bolts, and they will basically never break, and seem to round stuff off less since they are generally more rigid

[@martinfrench1981]

I mistakenly bought some foot long + Silverline screwdrivers when i was in a pickle - Bent the first time I used them. They need adding to the "WTF was I thinking" pile of tools.

[@manwiththestar2305]

Bahco is a fapoff brand.... You are however missing a momento-socket =)

[@Stathis10]

My money is on the facom. There is a set of files that tells you the hardness of steel to see those vadinadimmshndbdhxm steels

[@dirtygarageguy]

Toughness is more inportant than hardness - you wouldn't want hard sockets LOL and I have the files! Yey me!

[@Stathis10]

The Workshop sorry man its my brain telling me to ask 😀😀

[@dirtygarageguy]

No worries dude - questions are what this is all about!

[@jonathanmeehan4400]

No tekton?

[@ildkild]

I have 3 proxxon sets at work and all of the markings on them is worn off, tha sets are no more than 5 years old

[@Cijpher441]

i have a set of long proxxon sockets and they still have the markings on them after 6 years

[@ildkild]

bjorn wisman we use them 8hrs a day 5days a week, that is the ultimate test :)

[@halikarnonsumwlediven5311]

Mass vs volume would be an interesting study

[@dirtygarageguy]

This will test the pump which we're not intrested in

[@kolahti9433]

I think i might be enable to get you some old (80's maybe) Stahlwille sockets... They are just fucking insanely expensive! Send me a message or something

[@kolahti9433]

Oh shit there is your email :D

[@stu-b1]

Ok I told ya a while ago take a day off

[@tchakantc]

Where is izeltaş?

[@priveprive5315]

Snap-on ❤️

[@reasonsvoice8554]

12 point fucking useless unless you got 12 point bolts

[@TES99911]

And the video never came actually testing them...

[@dirtygarageguy]

Was there a deadline?

[@TES99911]

@@dirtygarageguy so when are you gonna test them. 10 years later?

[@dirtygarageguy]

What the fuck does it have to do with you? But if you wanna know, I started testing them, however the test set-up didn't hold up. It was the drive hex that splintered and eventually broke. So with a new (better-er) hex drive we'll be back in business. Unlike you, I have loads to do.

[@dirtygarageguy]

And before you say bullshit... scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71279821_2376869839246791_2828360157690331136_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_eui2=AeFS5fxpl6z6aJAQPM4Fu7G8c-aUOL2wYH7b1dra_ex5cCt05RkS5RlR69lQP-Aer8WBqsWrJkGT8__yb6keWgcIpBUcBO-_dH_tq1nMq59Xrg&_nc_oc=AQlxxe8G2P0Z3tKJskG_NQTsSc9TVB7zX_TjFem3uvhLGU8QONGogH31qWzBHDWHiFA&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=8e8f36e824f67c4ba47179748b736a03&oe=5E25371A scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71743259_2376869869246788_229770700112527360_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_eui2=AeGfUMeCNL3MbsgTtpt5OtZVPWnNKU9_zvLLLqbrc2mbss8xrNBwLkCJ60f-r5u2zDBpIVjhN6aw-N4h1Xp6yfwCQQDnxBxRzOyOm08lfoRMWA&_nc_oc=AQnLa_NkpOprT6Yal9icT1RqQaELia7yJn9Zjucs2_KBKO6ze8H3w-X1-dq_yEj7FMg&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=4d46da69c9cf586ec7aa1efbdafd4d82&oe=5E33E561 scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71752129_2376869809246794_8253250701212254208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_eui2=AeEbUpyx-YQ7-wO7OtdNKYDamqV0mXMMpc0uQHPQgInFwMx7rxnwfj-xvAx9hSRZUufZwb4cxF-1I_oC8DEtdWToNehlQVgw2gzCzHb4yvIO6Q&_nc_oc=AQmBzi6D7ptr6mfPHq914TQV71g3730oq3f9Zfy6npkPMjb1-F9yKZ-T8B84zbm2Ha0&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=81e8689e5380f80eae45f1d5dde28b2c&oe=5E2184BC

[@dirtygarageguy]

Making a tester that can take 1000 Nm repeatibly isn't as easy as it looks, specially when you need to take out all other vectors and moments...

[@martinpye549]

Stah Vill ??? Know your tools well, then. Really ??? Sorry, mate, you lost me there and then. If you're going to do these things on youtube, get your stuff together, man. Like a football fan knows George Best or Pele, you should know Stahlwille. I'm an aircraft engineer by trade, and they were the dogz nuttz. Ive been around the tool game for many years, working with them and later on selling them. I used Stahlwille, Wright and Cornwell ....Cornwell Tools being the most underrated and unknown in the world. My opinion.

[@dirtygarageguy]

Sorry mate but you should know how to pronounce German words, why? Just like your surname. Is it pronounced pie or pyee. Don't know, don't care....

[@Srg.Whoopsie]

If they were all 10mm, id know where all mine have gone...