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Testing something even better than Flarm Booster!!!!!

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adaniel69

adaniel69

Күн бұрын

Hi guys!
In this video i'm showing you what i'm testing now!
Something that i think is even better than a Flarm Booster, wich is way too expensive, comparing to what i test here!
What i'm testing now is amplifying RX up to 22db and TX also up to 22db!
But i recommend to use at least one SAW filter, so boost is up to 21db(19db with saw filter or 21,x db with cavity filter) for RX and TX.
One amplifier can amplify RX with 11db! So 2 x 11db = 22db!
TX is adjustable!
One amplifier can amplify TX with 5 to 11db! So 2 x (5 to 11db) = 10 to 22db!
In my case, i use 2 SAW filter, so the loss in 5 to 6db!
So i'm gaining 22db - 6db = 16db for RX.
And for TX, i set the potentiometer to minimum, so gain is (2 x 5db) - 6db = 10db - 6db = 4db!
I'm preparing a video with results next days, i will compare the results with one amplifier!
If you have any questions, please post them in comments section!(other questions than "what's your hotspot name?" or "what is your rewards?" or "how many new witnesses you have?", i will not aswer these questions, please understand!)
Thanks for watching!

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@GelecekSimdi.
@GelecekSimdi. 2 жыл бұрын
The app is absolutely wrong. The amplified rf signal cannot be amplified a second time. No matter how many boosters you install, the result will always be 10 db gain.
@muratbor6739
@muratbor6739 2 жыл бұрын
yes! This is true. Thank you Gelecek Sİmdi.
@ibraheemmohammed6038
@ibraheemmohammed6038 2 жыл бұрын
Good job bro. This is exactly what i was asking about in the discord ( sorins crypto talk) and no one answered my question. All they said was it wouldn’t work. Keep us posted
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have enough time to follow discord... This idea came to me and i wanted to test it!
@lordred7462
@lordred7462 2 жыл бұрын
Amplifier is cheap with bad SNR. I tried to plug it into my Sensecap directly any it was saturated by noise, miner didn't witness at all. I made air type SAW filter, and it's working but no improvments. Amp is currently down, I'm waiting for proper good quality SAW filter to test it again. I think with good quality SAW or cavity filter it should work well. Beaconing works no problem on amplifier, every time I beacon I get 14 witnesses. For price it cost I think it will perform well, but it's not plug and play as flarm or acasom.
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordred7462 thanks for reply! What is "air type saw filter"? Ps: told you, with saw filter works! 👍
@lordred7462
@lordred7462 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 more or less same thing as cavity filter. It's filter with some coil and capacitor inside. Signal goes through coil out to amplifier and noise gets lost in metal case of filter. It is working but it's not very efficient, have a lot of looses. SMD filters are better.
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordred7462 i'm curious how much loss...only a vna can tell... 👍
@waila8200
@waila8200 2 жыл бұрын
Amplifier 1 for RX: adjust RX as needed. The Amplifier can add another 11db so the total will be 22 db . Amplifier 2 for TX. The Amplifier can add 5-11 db each. This means you can expect 10 to 22 db total output. If we use 2 SAW filters between Amplifiers, the loss will be 3db for each filter. So the total gain at the end for 2 Amplifiers and 2 filters will be: For RX: 22db (Amp) - 6db (filter) = 16db For TX adjusted: 20db (Amp) - 6db (filter) =14db Is this correct ? )
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Both amplifier are for RX and TX!! Both amplifier add 11db each for RX(= 2 x 11db) and both amplifier add 5 to 11db for TX(= 2 x 5db up to 2 x 11db)! One SAW filter has 2.5 to 3db loss(2 x 2.5 up to 2 x 3db loss).
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
For this amplifier you cannot adjust RX! Is fixed gain, +11db! But you can lower the gain with a SAW filter! Together with TX! TX is adjustable from +5db to +11db!
@GelecekSimdi.
@GelecekSimdi. 2 жыл бұрын
The app is absolutely wrong. The amplified rf signal cannot be amplified a second time. No matter how many boosters you install, the result will always be 10 db gain.
@waila8200
@waila8200 2 жыл бұрын
@@GelecekSimdi. Now it's 3 days experiment for me.. Airbuddy- 868 filter - bobcat using Daniel's configuration on stock antenna (4dbi) but extended 5 meter Rg58 (-2.6) ...the results are extremely bad.
@waila8200
@waila8200 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting: so it is : (Amp - filter - Amp - filter ) with Amp modification..... can we use any 868 filter ??
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, i replaced the connectors so now is plug and play with the miner and cable!(RP-SMA male and RP-SMA connectors). You can use SAW filter or cavity filter for 868Mhz(or 915Mhz for US)! You need at least one filter, between cable/antenna and amplifier!
@lordred7462
@lordred7462 2 жыл бұрын
will definitly give it a try! I have one AB as you know, but my friend also have one and I ordered same SAW filter for me and for him. He will lend me his amplifier and filter, but he dosn't know it yet :-)
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Please come here with the results! Better test first with only one amplifier and filter! 👍👍👍👍👍
@alanb6401
@alanb6401 2 жыл бұрын
Im not talking about TX
@alanb6401
@alanb6401 2 жыл бұрын
I'm talking about the RX going into the miner, TX I have no issue
@howardho6700
@howardho6700 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!!! Does it need to add bias tee?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. This amplifier doesn't work with bias tee! But you can use 2 bias tees, one connected to the miner with RF to the miner and DC+RF to the cable and the other bias tee, before amp, with DC+RF to the miner(cable) and RF to the amp and take electricity from it to power the amp! But you have to make the amp waterproof first! 👍
@howardho6700
@howardho6700 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your advice. Actually just wanna know what the bias Tee is for?? I am still not clear about it.
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@howardho6700 bias tee is used to inject voltage on antenna cable! Search on google for schematic. Mqybe you will understand better...
@howardho6700
@howardho6700 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69I can't find the link for amp airbuddy selling. Can you please update the link so that I can buy it for AU 915. Thanks.
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@howardho6700 hi. The eu868 version should work for 915mhz. According to my manual, should work between 850-930mhz. I don't sell this product. But you can try where i buyd: m.alibaba.com/product/62372340031/433MHZ---Bidirectional-signal-amplifier.html?__sceneInfo=%7B%22cacheTime%22%3A%221800000%22%2C%22type%22%3A%22appDetailShare%22%7D&from=Android
@JazevoAudiosurf
@JazevoAudiosurf 2 жыл бұрын
you will probably get invalid witnesses because their signal is too strong, also if you keep stacking amps, doesn't it eventually destroy the miner?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
It cannot burn the miner because is amplifying the antenna, wich is low signal! Waiting for a beacon from a neighbour wich is 300m away from me. Until now, i didn't got invalid! For RX and TX!
@dr-noise2136
@dr-noise2136 2 жыл бұрын
Any update?
@saad1983
@saad1983 2 жыл бұрын
Amplified RX can actually fry the packet forwarder radio. You are absolutely correct about getting invalid witnesses as well. Helium has RSSI and signal strength rules, if not followed then you just dont earn.
@lapoderosa99
@lapoderosa99 2 жыл бұрын
@adaniel how long its take for amplifier to show some results? Right away or few days?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. It should give you results right away, when your miner will hear a beacon! Compare RSSI values before and after! But you should install a saw filter between amplifier and cable/antenna!
@robertVandelanotteonlinemoney
@robertVandelanotteonlinemoney 2 жыл бұрын
can you film better sight? thank you in advance are these 2 the same amplifiers...
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. In a future video, with results comparison with 1/2 amplifiers!
@robertVandelanotteonlinemoney
@robertVandelanotteonlinemoney 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 Thanks a lot bro and happy mining ...
@m.anoniem6827
@m.anoniem6827 2 жыл бұрын
hey friend I see that you can turn off the tx on the airbuddy have you done that too? since the tx is getting too powerful?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I can adjust TX between 5-11db. If i put a saw filter, then TX is between 2.5-8.5db!(RX with saw filter is also 8.5db)
@m.anoniem6827
@m.anoniem6827 2 жыл бұрын
yes I get it there is a small clock on the motherboard it is white you can operate the tx with it. did you adjust it?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@m.anoniem6827 i let it on maximum!(clockwise)
@instrumentalle
@instrumentalle 2 жыл бұрын
to work together TX and RX must be bidirectional amplifier
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
AirBuddy is BiDirectional!
@instrumentalle
@instrumentalle 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry! I used some similar and works just for rx, my bad!
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@instrumentalle this amplifier is very sensible to electrostatic discharges. Is frying very quick... You need to use it inside your home and ground the antenna
@hongk0ngfu3y
@hongk0ngfu3y 2 жыл бұрын
have you tried a cavity filter?
@mhmtaksu
@mhmtaksu 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I also have this amp and saw filter. Sensecap + amp + saw filter + 5mt lmr 400 cable + 8bd antenna, 9db antenna in the application. But in the meantime, I'm getting an invalid witness, what is the problem, how much should I do the 9db antenna in the application?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Do you live in a area with lots of hotspots? Try adding 2-3db more...
@jackjackson3772
@jackjackson3772 2 жыл бұрын
What do you set in the app ? 1 dbi or 15 dbi ? Or do you start with 1 dbi ? With 1 amplifier and with 2 amplifier ....
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't modified since i had only antenna! 4dbi in app with 5.8dbi Rak antenna and 5m LMR400!
@McMeneman
@McMeneman 2 жыл бұрын
hello thank you, did you remove the saw filters inside of sensecap
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! No!!!
@JusticetheGreyy
@JusticetheGreyy 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I got my airbuddy but I placed the the setup, airbuddy's leds are not working. How can I know understand it is working or not with out VNA? I do not have VNA
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. You can try what i did in my other video(if blue led blinks). Or try to measure the voltage on led's. One of my amplifier came with green led burned. But it works!
@JusticetheGreyy
@JusticetheGreyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 but when I measured the leds and the voltage is not coming to them, Should I wait to see snr and rssi values to see it is working? Is there any other way to understand
@JusticetheGreyy
@JusticetheGreyy 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, no leds are blinking. I measured the voltages coming into the vcc and gnd. I saw the voltages but I did not check the leds’
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@JusticetheGreyy you can check between those 2 big solder joints between the 2 boards near led's! You should see there 3 volts!
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@JusticetheGreyy right now, the network is running extremely bad... If the amp is not working, you cannot witness beacons or send beacons... Set the potentiometer clockwise to the max and wait for your miner to send a beacon. Or see if you can witness something... Is hard to say if is working without a vna...
@alwinrichaards1778
@alwinrichaards1778 2 жыл бұрын
airbuddy is waisting your time, buy the Acasom RX 12 - TX 6 with the cavity filter, install it after the amplifier and they have to be outside attached to the antenna, if the antenna is outside of course. if you want to keep testing the airbuddy, put it into a box, get a cavity filter and put them close to the antenna, not more then 0.5 meter cable between the filter and the antenna. Not trying to insult you but your waisting your time like this! First respect the rule off thumb and know what that means, you have to do more research and install the amp correct before the antenna. try it inside and look at the results, it will be much better..but airbuddy is not a good amp. Goodluck
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
With the way network is working and hnt price, i don't want to invest anything more in this project! Waiting to see if HIP55 will bring what it claims....
@brandondavison8982
@brandondavison8982 2 жыл бұрын
Will this also work on 915mhz? I don’t think it will but was told it would so trying to confirm
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. According to my manual, 868 version of this amplifier should work between 850-930mhz! 👍
@El_Nicaman
@El_Nicaman 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the link for the amplifiers? Subbed !👍
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. You can buy this amplifier from anywhere! Ebay, Aliexpress, Alibaba... PS: Is important to fit a SAW filter or a cavity filter between amplifier and cable/antenna! Thanks for subscribing! 👍
@asthmatic2455
@asthmatic2455 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 Sorry, the page you requested can not be found:(
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@asthmatic2455 www.ebay.de/itm/255354112689
@hongk0ngfu3y
@hongk0ngfu3y 2 жыл бұрын
are you getting more rewards? my 4.2dbi antenna witness far more hotspots than my 8dbi but the later generates more rewards which is puzzling
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
4.2dbi antenna have better vertical angle than 8dbi! It depends on your location to say wich one is better... Currently, the Helium network is not running well... Rewards are not consistent..... Saw that on more hotspot, not just mine....
@hongk0ngfu3y
@hongk0ngfu3y 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 but my rewards are higher with 8dbi even though less witnessing with it
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@hongk0ngfu3y the rewards got up for single transaction! Less beacons, less transactions and rewards got up! This is what happened to the network in last days! The way network works is tricking you! Is your choice what antenna to use! This is why i cannot take a conclusion on my experiments with AirBuddy! The only way i could say something clear was if discovery mode was still available!
@lamonterolaclan355
@lamonterolaclan355 2 жыл бұрын
This will get you on the Deny list asap!!!
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I don't have any invalid transactions! Why should i be on denylist? 👍
@ciberconntrol
@ciberconntrol 2 жыл бұрын
Hi great video sio on my amp the green light is always on even if no conect to antenna I place cell by antennas as in ur video run speed test but no blue light rX just green light any idea if is working on rx? I have no vna to test
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Did you install an antenna on IN port? You need an adapter in order to connect a normal wifi antenna! Check out the middle pin! Green light should be normal ON! Should go off only if a signal is detected on IN port, and blue light come on! I tested this even with a 802.11g router!
@gabrielz345
@gabrielz345 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you use one amplifier connected the other way?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Look closer! Both are in the same way!
@gabrielz345
@gabrielz345 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 on the picture the first one had the inscription on the top, the other one at the bottom? How is that possible then?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielz345 is just a sticker. Probably, when i took that metal cover out to look inside, i've soldered it backwards!
@gabrielz345
@gabrielz345 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 so I was correct 😉 from what I could see from the picture
@naiefkazyan2110
@naiefkazyan2110 2 жыл бұрын
Do tx and rx work on only one amplifier? Or should we buy amplifiers, one rx and one tx
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
One amplifier is bidirectional! That mean RX and TX! When you install them like i did, the amplification is added!
@naiefkazyan2110
@naiefkazyan2110 2 жыл бұрын
What I mean is how many amplifiers do we need to get rx and tx together
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@naiefkazyan2110 one is enough!
@maybnk
@maybnk 2 жыл бұрын
can you update what is staus now? 2 amplifier will destroy your miner?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
There's no problem! You cannot destroy the miner!!!!! Since the helium netwotk is not stable, i cannot post a propper result......
@maybnk
@maybnk 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 thanks for your input
@my_carp_life3424
@my_carp_life3424 2 жыл бұрын
Have you got a network analyser as its one thing on paper but another in reality.
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Please explain your point of view!
@my_carp_life3424
@my_carp_life3424 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 it's ok to say the amount of gain your getting by calculating the power on paper but in the real world it probably won't be like that, so if you have a network analyser it will tell you how much your losing in gain.
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@my_carp_life3424 still don't understand! Vna is "paper"? Is showing that is amplifying!!
@Bigpoppag91
@Bigpoppag91 2 жыл бұрын
Any update on this? Think im going to try it,
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Is not big improvement between 1 amp and 2 amps! One is enough! Check this out:kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3rPdXWcn9hjkLs
@Bigpoppag91
@Bigpoppag91 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 ahh thank you man
@langmodaninhbinh
@langmodaninhbinh 2 жыл бұрын
i am in vietnam frequency As923 can you guide me to use filter, amplifier, eng teng Thank
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Do you have already the filter and the amplifier?
@langmodaninhbinh
@langmodaninhbinh 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69 I have nothing, I am like a blank page
@gibsonmel
@gibsonmel 2 жыл бұрын
please turn on subtitle support bro
@alanb6401
@alanb6401 2 жыл бұрын
you are just overloading the amps, also be careful you may blow front end of miner
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot burn the miner's RF card like this!!!
@alanb6401
@alanb6401 2 жыл бұрын
you can
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanb6401 how? Even if i have -40db on antenna, +5.8db(antenna) + 22db(2 x amplifiers) - saw filters, still is not above zero! Please explain me! Thanks
@alanb6401
@alanb6401 2 жыл бұрын
you are talking 40db going into the miner right? specs on SAW filters are max 100mw which is 20db. You put 40db into the miner you can blow internal filters or overload front end. I'm not talking anything about TX on antenna side
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanb6401 do you understand MINUS 40db???????????
@diegomunoz4422
@diegomunoz4422 2 жыл бұрын
you recommend it
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 2 жыл бұрын
I don't recommend anything! Buy it on your own risk!
@diegomunoz4422
@diegomunoz4422 2 жыл бұрын
@@adaniel69thanks greetings
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