Testing the CHEAPEST Full Frame Camera You Can Buy...Should You?

[@farshadsheikhzad]

I bought this camera when it first came and i m still using it. Small projects, Big projects, it gets the job done. Fantastic job on low light situation. Amazing job on high ISO. Digital Stabilization great work. Even after all these years of using it, i had no issues that i would say "oh i wish i had a better camera". No. With this camera "For Me" everything goes perfectly.

[@RaceDayLive]

Zero complaints its not a pro level camera, its a camera to go out and have a ball and Full Frame sensor period! Buy one have fun and enjoy! The every day Joe doesn't care about anything stated in the this video. People buying this are not color grading lol.

[@RoyOlsen]

Coming from 5D2 to the RP I have had surprisingly little to complain about. The RP allows for extremely fast content creation with mobile workflows, which seems to be a much overlooked point. It does excellent in the studio and works well for virtually anything except fast action. The small form factor comes with drawbacks on ergonomics and battery life. Mirrorless has its quirks, I mean who decided a default 2 second image review would work well inside a viewfinder? In sum, a very nice camera, the low price let me spend more on glass (replacing EF L with RF L is .. taxing), and it can even do a bit of video.

[@lorenzofedericofarinelli1083]

You can remove the image review from the settings. I also found it quite annoying before!

[@MichaelSPalmer]

I still have one too... terrible for sports, but the image quality is pretty good (although the sensor lacks dynamic range). Battery range is lacking. HD video (24-60p) with autofocus is excellent (for 8bit content), but not great for 4K or super slo-mo.

[@learningcameras]

Yeah, Canon really didn't try that hard with the RP so it's an interesting camera. But 899 for full frame is tempting!

[@mbismbismb]

Wait the sensor in this is the same with the r6ii why the DR is not great?

[@learningcameras]

@@mbismbismb The R8 sensor is the same as the R6II. The sensor in the RP is a different sensor

[@davidmpoliveira1]

I just ordered an RP this week, for a little over 600€. It hasn’t arrived yet, but it should be an open box, probably brand new camera. I don’t do video, and my main camera is an EOS R6. The lowest price I ever saw for the R8 is 1100€, so that’s pretty much twice the money. The cheapest EOS R are going for over 800€ at the end of their lives, and decent ones are between 900 and 1000€. To be fair, my only concerns are the smaller EVF and the fact that I’ll have to get different batteries for it, but the price of the RP beats everything. I also had a 6D Mark II prior to my R6, so I already know how the sensor behaves. If I like it, it will definitely stay. It’s cheap, lightweight, takes pictures, it’s full-frame, and uses RF lenses.

[@jordonchatten]

I bought this camera as a b-cam for weddings, and what not. Sold it after a few months. Great for people starting out, or people who dont need to be able to change settings super fast!

[@WelcometotheJones]

Dan I consider that camera, but choose the original R. Since I’ve moved on to Fuji because I grew tired of cost of gear and most importantly I felt Canon didn’t value me as a consumer! Full frame or not there are better options out there!

[@learningcameras]

Fujifilm is doing amazing things right now. I personally own the X100VI and the X2H and they are amazing. I wish they made full frame cameras and Fujifilm is stupid not to release a full frame version of the X100VI given how popular that camera is. Obviously they don't have full frame lenses but they could absolutely make full frame cameras with fixed lenses pretty quickly

[@noth606]

@@learningcameras I think you greatly underestimate the amount of work that goes into creating a sensor assembly, which obviously is the actual camera. It's not something you whip up in an afternoon. Canon does have viable sensor assemblies but they go into cameras sold at significantly higher prices than this, and I think what you see as an issue is a conscious decision on their part in that making a "better RP" would only cost them sales in higher priced ranges instead of poaching customers who are buying other brands. I've used Canon for a long time, still have a couple of Canons and a few lenses - EF things though. My latest acquisition was a Sony FX30, the winner in a race that Canon doesn't really have a horse in, not a worthy opponent really since the FX30 was 3 grand with XLR handle, memory card etc and I had lenses already.

[@robomac2011]

For street & portrait the RP is fine 👍🏻

[@hyogasaintseiya4601]

What about landscape?

[@MmpM123YT]

although the dynamic range is not great for a full frame camera, considering the price, and that it is priced like an apsc camera, it might actually be the best landscape camera in its price bracket, in landscape you font need to be fast, you just want a big sensor and good image quality and as long as you are mindful with the dynamic range this camera will deliver very good results

[@deodotusalvika8991]

​@@MmpM123YToh😢 i just buy it. It that better than 5d3?

[@rokpodlogar6062]

Canon RP is a great all rounder for someone who doesn't shoot a lot of sports and doesn't need 4K video (who does anyway?) the only big downside is the battery life. it's just annoying.

[@droe90]

I have been using the rp nearly since it came out. My only complaints are that it cant shoot dark subjects against bright backgrounds. In one instance, I shot a Nigerian girls graduation session at the beach and it absolutely couldn't find her. Second complaint is that it doesn't have 120fps in any resolution. Honestly id even be cool with 720p 120 like in the original R. Other than those to things I'd never upgrade. Aslo battery life and lack of 2 card slots don't bother me because batteries are cheap and I pair the rp with a 5d mkiii for important events

[@vincentnavea6999]

yeah I hope there will be a firmware upgrade for 120fps.

[@sauravbasu8805]

In terms of still image quality alone, how do you compare 5diii to RP ?

[@droe90]

@sauravbasu8805 5d mark iii images fall apart a lil faster when cropping. But the color is more dynamic and rich. The 5d also has a smoother rendering which i enjoy. I still favor the rp for its autofocus (face and eye dection), video features, and size. oh and rp has much better live view af, thats probably the main reason I use it over the mark iii

[@deodotusalvika8991]

Do you use rf lens or ef lens for rp? I used 5d3 too, and just buy rp . Is that okay? ​@@droe90

[@drtools9226]

I have it for 4 years and still love it. I use it with the grip you could buy. Sometimes even for wildlife. Have an r7 to. And sometimes i love that slow framerate from the rp.

[@learningcameras]

Awesome!

[@garrywatters1140]

Just bought one and love the pics it produces. I also have an R5 for nature and sport photography.

[@darrenddmp]

i still have an RP, its my studio portrait camera and sometimes weddings. i use technicolor cinetstyle as a log profile for grading.

[@kostyafedot551]

I had it for two years from new. Two months later after warranty expired, on/off switch developed known problem. Canon service wanted 1/3 of the camera's price to fix it. I sold it with big loss and couple of native lenses. R has focusing bug. If you focus some of R lenses close and after it trying to refocus on greater distances, it won't. Went back to 5D MKII which are 200 USD now and it is so much better.

[@anand-iyer]

What was the on/off switch problem?

[@kostyafedot551]

​@@anand-iyernot turning off.

[@anand-iyer]

@@kostyafedot551 I think I had the same issue in mine last year. It would automatically turn on even when the on/off switch was set to off.

[@kostyafedot551]

​@anand-iyer yes. Canon has another camera with same switch and same problem.

[@anand-iyer]

@@kostyafedot551 which camera?

[@BenTroxell]

I'd probably snag an used A7iii for about the same price but that is a crazy low price for a new full frame mirrorless! Great vid as always, Dan!

[@learningcameras]

Yeah, used is always a great way to go especially for older cameras and the A7III is definitely a step up in every area. Thanks!

[@harryvuemedia]

With the recent price drop of the a7iii, we can now get used a7iii for $1,000 usd or less now. Sad to say but its a bad time to sell your a7iii if you still want $1,200 usd for a used model.

[@BenTroxell]

@@harryvuemedia yeah that’s literally what I just said.

[@AndreiGrigorean]

TL;DR don’t buy this outdated thing, pay 300 more for the R8

[@learningcameras]

That's definitely the option I recommended at the end if you have the $ to do it. It's a worthy splurge

[@cousinvinny5066]

@@learningcameras Agree. I had an RP for a little while and recently upgraded to an R8 which I have been really enjoying.

[@tomd4748]

R8 is $500 more

[@Aidan060]

I would agree however I don’t think most people buying this camera aren’t buying it new. You can find them for under $700 on mpb

[@sauravbasu8805]

​@@cousinvinny5066What were the negatives of RP in your experience ?

[@jmackultra]

It takes great pictures it's just slow. It's been a good value though.

[@domokzoli]

Do you have to wait for the photo to be taken after pressing the Expo button?

[@insertrealname]

If you meaning a delay between pressing the shutter button repeatedly in single shot mode, no, I don't think there's any delay worth talking about. This camera does good still photography. I don't have much experience with video, but for informal shooting, and being careful with exposure and the right choice of Canon's "picture profile" for the color/contrast/sharpening you want, there no reason acceptable FHD video can't be prepared, it's just not a flexible solution for those who really need to create and post-process footage in a "professional" manner.

[@rlfisher]

Except for low-light performance, I have been very happy with this camera for landscape images.

[@amazanstudios]

I have had my RP for about two years and use it as a webcam for vlogs and for filming my podcasts.

[@RamonLinares]

It was my first full frame camera and I learned a lot with it. It still delivers amazing results (for photography) and it has one of the best grips for my hands of all the cameras that I own. Having said that, it’s been my webcam for the last four years, non stop 8 hours or more every working day and it never overheated or had any glitch. I think it will outlive my other cameras 😂

[@learningcameras]

That's awesome! It's crazy that most new cameras can't pull of even 2 hrs of use without overheating lol. Maybe I need to repurpose my RP instead of letting it gather dust!

[@RamonLinares]

@@learningcameras yeah, I am surprised too. I just use a dummy battery and a elgato video capture dongle, set the clean HDMI out and that’s it. The good thing is that it is not recording so it just captures the video and sends it through hdmi maybe that’s why it’s lasting so long 🤷

[@domokzoli]

Can the battery be charged with a power bank only when it is switched off or is there a way to charge it while taking pictures?

[@insertrealname]

The power bank needs to support the USB-C PD ("power delivery") standard, and only works with the camera switched off. However an interesting option is to buy a dummy battery with a USB-A compatible input: this can be plugged into any high capacity power bank that provides a standard 2.5 amp output, enough to power the camera. Of course, this can get a little un-ergonomic...

[@Snapthis]

I have a RP, Best camera Ive ever owned, the only downside to it is trying to run it off external power is impossible and then if you want a dummy battery, I found the cable hole is just in the wrong place when you've got it on a cage.

[@vincentnavea6999]

i also see the same predicament using a dummy battery on a smallrig.

[@gyredynamics]

Not related to the video. How can I import my CANON RAW into lightroom? If there are converting apps, does it lessen the quality?

[@learningcameras]

It will import automatically...they do not need to be converted assuming you are on a version of lightroom that was created after the camera launched

[@davidmurray5926]

Yep 00:06 that damn ubiquitous side hinged rear screen is rubbish. Its too slow, obtrusive and sticks out to the side like a sore thumb. It’s about time Canon gave us a choice, do they have a contact in place where they’re not allowed to use a tilt screen or something?

[@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x]

Even their newest models don't have a screen with tilt-up. Sony, Nikon and Panasonic doing a better job here, though only at the more expensive models

[@domokzoli]

Is it true that the viewfinder image is dark for a long time after the photo is taken, i.e. you can't see anything for a long time?

[@learningcameras]

No...Haven't heard that one

[@domokzoli]

@@learningcameras Thanks!

[@yohan2437]

Unfortunately, skin tones are worse (greener) with the R8 compared to the RP. It seems because RP has the older color science due to inheriting the sensor from the 5D, it avoids the green tint in skin from the newer Canon sensors.

[@fyneyoungstunna]

This is FAR from the cheapest full frame you can buy.

[@eastsidebehigh]

if ur buying for photography i think its the best bang and u wont have to ugrade for a few years bc its full frame. now if ur buying for video i would up the budget and go for a canon r8 if u wanted to stick w canon

[@harryvuemedia]

Right now, Sony a7iii is the best affordable full-frame mirrorless camera. Amazon has it on sale for $1,300.00 usd and if you get it on EDU discount with Adorama, you can get it for under $1,200.00 usd. This is literally the best deal for a full-frame Mirrorless camera that still takes great pictures and can be use for a lot of client gigs. The video side isn't great anymore, but the photography side of the a7iii will hold up for another 10 years.

[@natureredux1957]

No, the Canon R8 is a better value.

[@harryvuemedia]

@@natureredux1957 Canon R8 has no ibis and no dual SD slot, so how is it a better value?

[@natureredux1957]

@@harryvuemedia Well everyone values different things.

[@learningcameras]

I think most people camera searching in that price range will value the smaller, lighter, compact, and easier interface of the R8. The R8 also has quite a few new features that make it a great camera for the price so I tend to recommend the R8 more often

[@mbismbismb]

@@harryvuemediadoes the a7iii has more megapixels than r8 does it focus much better and sticky and recognize birds eyes from far distance too?

[@ron.photographyseries]

I just got one for $250 including the 24-105mm kit lens. It's my first Full frame/mirrorless camera. This camera is 🔥🔥🔥 I LOVE IT!!!

[@sauravbasu8805]

How did you get that at 250 dollars ? 😮

[@ron.photographyseries]

@@sauravbasu8805 I am really in a tight budget and only had $300 cash at that time. I bought it on facebook marketplace. Customized my location radius to 50miles. I was about to get a Sony a5100 for $200 but the RP showed up. Used the $50 for gas and that is how I got the camera 😁

[@ron.photographyseries]

@@sauravbasu8805 got it on facebook market place. I was on a tight budget back then and I only got $300. I was about to buy a5100 for $180 but then I tried expanding my radius then the RP showed up. Bought the RP and used the remaining $50 for gas 😁

[@PieterBreda]

Did I see camera conspiracies wave the cripple hammer.

[@PWingert1966]

I'm sticking with my Sl1 but waiting for the R7 II which is expected in GFeb 2025. I expect the R10 is going to be revved as well.

[@TheNewArtSchool]

Great video! Why buy new? The Eos R is much better in many aspects, especially the battery.

[@learningcameras]

I agree, buying a used camera is generally pretty safe. The EOS R is only available used I think but I think prices for that are close to the Canon R8 which I think is a really good camera and will hold value more than the R8 since it's current tech. It's not that the EOS R is bad, but the R8 is so cheap right now, it's a better deal if you're spending over $1k

[@mbismbismb]

The AF is much much better? Dpaf version 2?

[@TheNewArtSchool]

@@mbismbismb No, but you can use batteries deom the 5d series (5d mkii and later and for those switching, this is amazing. The Eos R is a mini 5d mk iv).

[@PWingert1966]

I want to see the RP paired with the new Canon RF-S 18-150mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM Lens. It's getting fairly positive reviews as a great principal lens for a wide variety of situations.

[@cousinvinny5066]

@@PWingert1966 That lens is designed to use with Canon mirrorless crop sensor bodies. While it can be used with the RP, it is suboptimal. The RF 24-105mm (L and non-L versions) and the RF 24-240 f/4-6.3 would be better pairing options in my opinion.

[@onlysublime]

There is no better $900 full frame camera for photography. If you want a do everything camera this isn't it. But if you want a $900 full frame camera that can take beautiful pictures in controlled scenarios it's wonderful. It's not a low light beast. It's not a sports camera. But it's amazing as a studio camera or in situations where you have some control (e.g. Using lights or strobes )

[@learningcameras]

Well said

[@deodotusalvika8991]

I just have new box for 650usd include 1 battery and canon adaptor to ef. I think its very good deal for 2019 full frame camera right?

[@HR-wd6cw]

Technically, the cheapest FF camera would be a toss-up between the Canon RP and the Nikon Z5 depending on if the NIkon Z5 is on sale for $999 or not). Between those two though the Z5 would probably be a better buy for $999 (again, if it's on sale).

[@ForrestWu]

I had the Canon EOS RP, it was so slow for a mirrorless camera. But it was fast for my 1st mirrorless camera. I didn't particularly like the autofocus on it though. I primarily used the RP as a photo camera and seldomly for videos. Back in 2023, I thought the video and microphone quality was superior to the iPhone 14 Pro (but the autofocus...just terrible).

[@YiRen]

4:23 maybe it's 85mm F2.0 RF lens , but not F1.8

[@tuschie8318]

Canon RP with the 24-105mm f.4-7.1 for 888€ our the sony a6400 with the sigma 18-50mm f.2.8 for 1200€?

[@Frame_first]

Full frame vs Crop Sensor? Always full frame but non Rp, you can save for an r8

[@ttbirds1082]

Can you confirm if the Canon R8 is crippled with a 30min clean HDMI out limitation (unlike the RP)?

[@jovan_spasovic]

I feel like the best full frame camera as of now that offers most bang for the buck is S5 IIX. Yes it is not as cheap as the ones you listed but the feature set is absolutely insane.

[@Nintorious]

My whole thing is just wanting a smaller /lighter body. I want to transition from dslr (5d miii) It would definitely make me want to travel with it much more than my 5d.. I don’t do video at all. Just portrait photography, don’t really shoot kids but casually at times I may for friend/family so I don’t care too much if it is hit or miss with that.. I’m so indecisive though

[@learningcameras]

This isn't bad at all but the Canon R8 would be a significant step up if you can afford it and isn't much larger. It will still be WAY lighter than the 5D. It's also on a massive sale bhpho.to/4db8n4K

[@ilia0204]

i would like to start making short cinematic videos for social media and i don’t know if i should get an r10 over this, i love photography, but i wanna start videography too.. ps: i have canon 2000d so both will be a biiig upgrade😅

[@learningcameras]

I think if you're shooting video, the R10 would be a better option. It's also on a massive sale: bhpho.to/420awMp

[@noth606]

Interesting, but not my jam. Used Canon a lot in the past, still have some and a few lenses etc. Instead of listing why it's not for me, it would be better explained by what I did recently buy, an FX30. Still have some Canon gear from my many years of using their stuff exclusively but then I did mostly stills and just a little video, which is the opposite of what I do now. The FX30 is not perfect, but it does do enough things right that the defects of it don't spoil it for me. It does - for the record - take decent pictures too. Different strokes for different folks.

[@Pacojerte2022]

Can this RP move the heavy glass elements of the Sigma 105mm 1.4 ?

[@Primeros1000]

I had the RP few years ago before I switched to sony but it was nice and I like the colors better than the R at the time

[@harryshields2791]

I just bought one brand new for $550! I’ve had good luck shooting softball with my old RP and EF 70-300L.

[@joeblack7156]

Walked into Best Buy less than 2 weeks ago and they were selling the RP body for $699. Since my Nikon D610 was in the shop and I had a job to do I grabbed it with a 50 1.8 for under 1K with tax.

[@georgemahlum6542]

Don't need Video...As long as it takes pictures for a reasonable price...we are good to go...Cheers Note: Canon lens choices far outstrip the competition!

[@grahamcorley8156]

I use my RP for portraiture, so none of the drawbacks. Plus I never do video. And if I need an AF speed machine, I just pull out my 7dii.

[@Cracky003]

Idk, i got my A7 ii open box for $599. No kit lens, 3 shutter count. Watching this, idk what the RP offers over it, 4k video? Half assed though.

[@learningcameras]

4k video on the RP is definitely half assed. But I'm talking new camera prices. Obviously open box or used you can often find much better deals and maybe a small risk depending on where you buy it. It's tough to make videos like this comparing used/open box prices just because they are fluctuating and there is no guarantee you can even find one open box. But if you got an A7II for $599, that seems like a great deal! But that doesn't mean 5000 other people who watch this video can get that same deal

[@Cracky003]

@@learningcameras I mean, even new with a kit lens, the A7 II is cheaper, but I get what you mean. I'm just saying in the sub 899 range there are a range of FF and MFT mirrorless cameras that may well have similar features to the current entry level(mirrorless APSC is kind of a no mans land, idk).

[@vincentnavea6999]

i wish firmware upgrades are forthcoming

[@Princeton_James]

I probably would have kept mine if the battery life was better. Eye AF was good enough. I didnt miss that it didnt have IBIS, but the battery life was really bad. Sold mine. If wanting entry level FF in 2024 go with an A7iii.

[@gundarsmiks4889]

Just bought 5dmk2 for 250 euros. 1080p raw video with magic lantern. Go and beat that for 250!!! 800 for this ia realy not worth... You can buy an sony alpha something for that. And be way better off! I think the next good camera is r5. But thats completely different category.

[@keithwiebe1787]

I had the 5dm2. Terrible for video. Moire patterns. Just try shooting indoors at wood floor and the grain pattern causes moire. Solved it by putting in a filter behind sensor but pain the in the but. Got the 5dm3 and it had much better video but not near as good as the R8 which can shoot 4k 60 and even 1080 180fps.

[@gundarsmiks4889]

@@keithwiebe1787 That sure. I mean if you pay good money you get better stats, 4k 60p and stuff like that. But i am watching all on a laptop of resolution 1360x 1060 or something. I truly dont see a big difference between a C400 that came out recently. And the canon 5dmk2 i bought for 250. Literaly. The video looks the same in the cameras of 10 years ago as it does now. In general! Yes the stats are better. They worked out the colors much better. Also did you upgradr your 5d firmware. I upgraded firmware and there is alot fixed, and it runs very well. If i would look at the images ok a huge 1080 TV screen, then there maybe would be a difference. on a 4k huge TV would see some more difference. How many people you know who actualy own 4k huge tvs ??? Also if you still make your 1080 look good, it will look good on 4k TV aswell... Also 5dmk2 can shoot raw with magic lantern. Its not the best i know. But realy if you look at the videos in general they look the same... So its more about what you do with it.

[@noboshow]

I have an m50....it's ok, but i am currently buying the Sony zve102.

[@jordanduvall7075]

I just got a canon r8. Refurbished for 1k. Stepping up from the canon t3i. Holy crap is it huge difference

[@learningcameras]

Awesome!

[@dronetheworld4k67]

It doesn't have electronic shutter ???

[@learningcameras]

@@dronetheworld4k67 it has it but you shouldn't use it. It will be a major quality hit and since the readout speeds are slow, you can have banding from artificial lights and rolling shutter if your subject is moving

[@XavierBaker]

@@learningcameras Electronic shutter is the only shutter mode the RP has. No mechanical

[@ryanrommeldominguez8554]

Still using the RP for our KZbin channel. ^_^ Looking to upgrade to the R8 soon. I mean hopefully soon. LOL!

[@tiemji]

I'ts a very capable camera but prefer the R in regard compared to this one.

[@mbismbismb]

If u shoot like a professional and know how about lights in photography, u feel more than enuf with DR in canon cameras... i prefer better colours instead 😌

[@Sashalexandros]

0:45, FALSE! Canon is still an avid practicioner of crippling cameras, look at R6 and R5, basically similary cameras but some functionalities are not available to R6 which require only software functionality.

[@learningcameras]

@@Sashalexandros The R6 can shoot 4k60 full frame...no Sony hybrid camera can do that under 6k. There are some limits that are needed to justify marketing value at each price which is unfortunate but acceptable but in no way is the R6 crippled like how Canon used to do it

[@seansaca]

For someone purchasing a camera on a budget, I would steer away from Canon due to the lack of third party lens options.

[@gianflower65]

Well, I`m staying with my M6 Mark II + Speedbooster and with 16fps or 30fps electronic shutter

[@charlescrawford1145]

I have the Canon RP and I shoot bald eagle pictures with it

[@Leon-dt8uo]

I don't own an RP & will probably save for an R8, as it seems the RPs AF is a bit slow, but I do really like the images I've seen the RP produce.

[@marvin2983]

So, the only knocks against this camera are only if you're doing this new-fangled video thang. Us dinosuars that only shoot still pictures and don't need these new-fangled 21st century bells-and-whistles needed for the "talkies" will do just fine with the EOS RP, correct?

[@learningcameras]

haha...yeah, I'd recommend it more for the photo shooting dinosaurs. The big improvements in the last 6 years with cameras in this price range are mainly around autofocus and video

[@THETRUTHISOUTTHERE-m9v]

Idk 😅 Here in UK I can get Sony FF cheaper then this 🤷‍♂️

[@learningcameras]

@@THETRUTHISOUTTHERE-m9v used?

[@THETRUTHISOUTTHERE-m9v]

@ Yes. I was comparing both of them used price.

[@kion24]

the camera is cheap but those RF lenses are super expensive. And RF mount has almost zero third party lenses. If you want a cheap FF camera, go ahead for Sony A7Cii

[@learningcameras]

I think Canon has done a good job at putting out cheap RF lenses so I don't think that's valid anymore. There are 7 lenses under $500 and 9 under $600 with 3 solid primes under $250 right now. I definitely think they should open up the mount to offer more choices but I can build you a solid kit for Canon with RF lenses that would be just as cheap as Sony. The A7CII is great and I personally own it but it is drastically more expenses even with cheap 3rd party lenses

[@stenbol]

macchina stupenda. chi non sa fotografare farà pessime foto anche su una ammiraglia. E le persone che non sanno fotografare sono TANTISSIME.

[@bigboi36]

Nikon Z5....Hold my drink.

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

Isnt 5d cheaper

[@demonicadog]

Just get a used Z6

[@wordlv]

Z6 is a $100 more

[@learningcameras]

That's a great sale

[@eli_thevlogger]

after the update i still don't have 24frames

[@prodlilbooger]

Is it worth 600 dollars in 2024?

[@OutRAjious]

think there’s something special to portraits with this camera… lost with newer cameras?

[@DonovinJones]

If your gonna get this camera get it certified refurbished from Canon's Website for $550

[@liammeigs4815]

"Best camera for the price" The sony a6400 and A7 II would like to have a word...

[@learningcameras]

The A7II isn't available for sale anymore so the only way to get it is used or from 3rd party sellers. The a6400 is definitely a solid camera but not full frame hence why it isn't a direct comparison

[@liammeigs4815]

@@learningcameras The a6400 has the a9's processor, extremely fast auto focus and came out in 2019. and New or not doesn't matter when the title of the video is "cheapest full frame camera YOU CAN BUY" since you can buy a A7 II for $400-$500 used at a local camera shop. Unfortunately Aswell Cannon is extremely restrictive with lenses and anyone looking for a full frame and isn't upgrading from another full frame will likely look used first.

[@liammeigs4815]

Or a Fuji XM5 or Nikon Z30-50 will take better pictures and video since budgets usually mean the person might not be wanting to drop huge prices on a hobby or something they aren't sure how much they will enjoy.

[@learningcameras]

@@liammeigs4815​​⁠ I can't make a statement on used camera prices...it's used! The price could literally be anything depending on condition. That means shutter wear, no warranty, unknown condition, risk...and I'm sure you could find a used RP for even less so that point isn't valid. Also Canon's lens selection under $600 is actually very good...it's the higher end lenses that have gaps. And most people buying cheaper cameras have under 3 lenses. But if you watch the video, I didn't say you should buy this camera! It says "tested" in the title. It's a review, I didn't get paid by Canon to say awesome things about the camera and there are quite a few negatives to this one

[@liammeigs4815]

@@learningcameras I got a A6400 Used from a local shop that has a 6-month warranty on used gear, got with a couple lenses. The camera itself i checked has under 3k shutter count and is flawless not even scratched. also saw some used canon RP and A7 II's there all were under $700 same for A5 series and Varied 6's like the 6500 and 6100. I said buy local and support local camera shops, they'll clean and repair cameras sometimes Aswell and offer in shop warranties, but I know you aren't endorsed I was just saying having a full frame isn't worth the draw backs and buying that camera new makes 0 sense when camera stores with a7 II's exist or newer cropped frame APS-C cameras exist for cheaper.

[@genuine0]

But I still won't pay $800, £800 for it, I don't care what it does, people should stop spending huge sums of money on these gadgets and force the manufacturers to bring their stupid prices down, they are not hand building them to warrant these astronomical prices. Let them sell these cameras to companies when they have no other choice they will bloody bring the prices down. Because to say $800 is cheap, no, price is subjective, if you're a millionaire or a billionaire yes, $800 is nothing, but some people have to work a whole week to make that money. There is always something missing with these cameras. As you said, they intentionally remove things, even when they bring out an upgrade, they usually remove things and have them replaced with other features, and I don't call this an upgrade, Canon is notoriously known for doing this.

[@learningcameras]

Cameras have really not gotten more expensive over time when you factor in inflation and the amount of features new cameras pack is absolutely crazy compared to cameras 10 years ago. But the good news is phone cameras are also 10x better than they were 10 years ago so you might not NEED a dedicated photo camera like you did a decade ago so you can actually save money. But $800 for a camera that could easily last you 5 years and that can actually make you $ if you used it for photoshoots or take family memories is not a millionaire/billionaire accessory. I know plenty of people making way less than $100k that spend more than $800/year on starbucks...and the RP would last you more than a year and even years from now you could probably still sell it for $300+ so it wouldn't even be a $800 net cost. So if you value a camera more than starbucks, this is affordable

[@user-cd6jg3gv7k]

Sony A7 is actually the cheapest camera as of right now for those wondering.

[@learningcameras]

It wasn't with the lens kit last time I checked but obviously sales can impact all of that. But the A7 is pretty old right now and struggles in a few areas like autofocus and video

[@user-cd6jg3gv7k]

@@learningcameras Good point. The A7 is purchase-able for $300 right now so getting the kit lens separately would probably be cheaper still. Autofocus doesn't compare to modern day standards but I would say it's plenty good for someone just starting out. Video is just bad I can't lie 😂

[@learningcameras]

@@user-cd6jg3gv7k Actually most camera stores have actually taken off the A7 since it's officially discontinued so the only ways to buy it are used and through 3rd party sellers without a valid manufacture warranty which is why you can sometimes find lower prices. Obviously still a decent camera but you can't compare those prices with the RP that can still be purchased new from 1st party sellers

[@nethbt]

This camera is a piece of horse turd, seriously don't buy this

[@welfarestates8465]

You sound really upset, probably an APS-C shooter.

[@Sqeezy3]

I'd never buy a Canon camera just because the cripple hammer Canon does. The only cripple hammer Sony does is 15fps for non Sony lenses.

[@learningcameras]

I really don't think there new cameras are crippled. Canon for example has full frame 4k60 in the R6, R6II, R5, and R5II...Sony you have to spend $6k+ just to get full frame 4k60 in a hybrid camera. Sony also limits fps and only gives you 7fps tops unless you go down to uncompressed raw and doesn't give you any faster speeds in electronic shutter, unless you spend $6000+. For every feature you could argue Canon is crippling, I could give you another one on Sony to even things out. The least crippled camera brand right now is actually Nikon which is crazy

[@Sqeezy3]

@@learningcameras We can agree on the Nikon thing, but 4k60 shouldnnt be used without slowing down the footage and usually you do a detail shot, where a bit of a "macro" is a bit better, but yeah, it isn't there. 10 fps for a non A9 or A1 camera isn't an issue as well. Why was 10 fps a few years ago a really fast camera and suddenly, when there is an option for 30 or 120 fps, 10 fps is unusable for sports. Faster is better, but is it really that bad. But yeah, Canon and Nikon have "cheaper" faster fps. All you said are real issues, you heard my opinion. Yes, Sony cameras could be better for the price, but there isn't a new Sony camera without IBIS and a small battery. The biggest issue i had which led me to Sony and not to Canon or Nikon is the lens selection, which is the most important thing you need for a camera. And yes, if you are nitpicking, then Nikon has the best lens selection, because you can adapt Sony E to Nikon Z

[@learningcameras]

@@Sqeezy3 I'm only arguing your statement that new Canon cameras like the R5/R6 are crippled. I HIGHLY disagree with that. Some things are better with Sony and some are better with Canon & Nikon but I can give you tons of examples that show that Canon cameras are not crippled. I do think Canon is more restrictive but in the same way the iPhone 16 Pro is massively more restrictive than a Samsung S24 Ultra but the iPhone 16 pro is still just as capable at producing amazing images/video...but that's what makes them easier to use in the field so I understand the philosophy behind it even though I wish I had unlimited customization personally

[@henrysantiago5997]

Just buy a Lumix 5S It's a way better camera for the same price

[@firehosediy7507]

The EOS 5D is $250. The 6D is $450.

[@learningcameras]

What are you talking about...those cameras are long discontinued. You talking about used? Are you really trying to compare the price of a 19 year old used camera you might be able to find in who knows what condition and shutter count with a brand new warrantied camera you can purchase from a legit camera store? I bet in 15 years the RP will be way cheaper than that used

[@TheHeartless917]

lol this camera is so bad that I would still choose something like an a6400 over this. this is just a repackaged 6dii so u know the sensor is ancient and dynamic range is worst than apsc sony bodies

[@learningcameras]

Yeah, I never liked this sensor. When I put it side by side with the A7III it was a MASSIVE difference in image quality

[@TheHeartless917]

@@learningcameras oh yeah a7iii is miles ahead for sure

[@Ocean69TV]

you can get R8 in china with this price

[@citrocar1028]

Still very expensive in India on Amazon😂😂😂

[@liviavlady9618]

Demonstrate what that camera can do amateur fotofuter and stop blah, blah...

[@guillermoperezsantos]

Digital cameras/photo is really boring

[@robertbohnaker9898]

It’s really not that good. Dynamic range affects the colors. Tech is really a letdown. Good glass can’t fix everything..😅thanks Dan. You have a very beautiful wife …l