Texan Reacts to Sabaton and Sabaton History-Inmate 4859

[@rayceofhistory]

Discord link. discord.gg/YZv8RFmJ

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

not speaking of something is how its forgotten... concerning the us ,the theocratic winds might be to strong to like the familiar smell that touching on the religious dogma the n guys used to make a lot of this possible....for its mainstream media to 'want' to make a movie tale about it.. to forget history is to doom your children to repeat it as that russian said with foresight...

[@Krokmaniak]

30:20 There were actually plans on making movie about him but his family stopped it because producer wanted to change his nationality and family decided that because he was a patriot it would be like spitting in his face

[@The_GuyWhoNeverUploadsAnything]

Why the fuck as a producer would you want to change his nationality and to what was it planned to be changed to? :D

[@Krokmaniak]

@@The_GuyWhoNeverUploadsAnything This is about Holocaust so producer wanted to make him a Jew. Also I found that in the meantime there were few movies made so I think I need to see them

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

@@Krokmaniak well.. thats about as dumb... be like saying ''well ww1 was is known for trench warfare so leets make up it was how every single front looked :/ if anything you want to keep as many details true as possible to show all the gritty greyness behind so much blood sheed possible so much of such an ugly chapter in history involved ,be like making up something to paint the reasons for the us blackmail prices towards england in some silly ''it was for the good of all totally not just greed'' reasons.. only obfuscate or distort for the sake of living survivors or relatives well beings sake... never for just ''well its about x so must involve y''

[@angelrivera2339]

it makes his sacrifice cheap to make him Jewish. The dude did his duty for his country and what he thought was right. A lot of Christians supported the Nazis, but a lot of Christians also fought them. Many people were arrested for hiding Jews. This is the ugliest point in modern history. it is not a fictional account made up by some writer. Changing the facts does a disservice to the generations in the future who can learn from history.

[@ireneusz-u9i]

Everyone who talks about the courage of Captain Witold Pilecki forget about one thing. Just getting him into the camp is a real miracle. After all, he could die at almost any time. The Germans could have killed him already while he was arrested in the street. What happened often. He could have been arrested by the Gestapo in Szucha or Pawiak (places where people were tortured from where they practically did not come out alive). He could have ended up in jail and mass executions of people in retaliation for the actions of the resistance movement. He could have been sent to any other concentration camp or forced labor. On the way, the Germans could have killed him for any reason. The road to the camp was not as easy as it seems.

[@TheSlyngel]

Totally agree Sabaton are masters at fiting the tone to the subjectmatter. Its one of there greatest strenghts.

[@rayceofhistory]

I agree, they do really well with it. I can go into a song not having any idea what it’s about and the tone and sound immediately gets me into it.

[@ranvorkvartec7358]

History show repeatedly that it part of human nature to adapt no matter the circumstances. Even today you can look at situations in Africa, Middle East and now Ukraine. Human trafficking, slavery and wars are happening in 2022 and those are topics are highly ignored and replace with celebrity, fashion, and fantasy. People don’t like being depressed and will grab on to what ever make them happy and ignore the rest of the world around them.

[@Vr4nj3s]

When i first heard the song, i really liked that dark and heavy feel you get from it, but i didint really understand much from the lyrics, so i went and watched sabaton history on witold. I simply couldnt belive that his story was true, it seemed too unbelivable to me, but yet its as true as it gets. After that when i listened to the song again, it became one of my favorite sabaton songs of all time.

[@lucasrokitowski8707]

I love your point that the advance in technology does not equal an advance in humanity, whatever that would mean. We are essentially still the same in our instincts, spanning centuries. A great example: an ancient Roman was just as thirsty of blood and violence in the Colosseum as we are watching an MMA fight.

[@iwona3713]

Thank You ❤ My HERO Witold Pilecki❤

[@dawid.w2578]

Witold Pilecki he was a patriot romantic, he believed in moral values, if you understand this, you will understand why he did it.

[@jthompson7175]

There were definitely at least lines that didn't know. Like there are stories about American and English soldiers liberating death camps after D-Day who didn't know what they were going to see and were horrified by the reality.

[@polishgigachad7097]

"Compared to this, Auschwitz was just a triffle" - Captain Witold Pilecki said about the interrogations in a communist prison conducted by Józef Goldberg and his homies

[@niklassvadebo5091]

Love your wisdom. Love your reactions

[@rayceofhistory]

I appreciate it!

[@pedroconcha1715]

Ofcourse the people living near a camp knew. The smoke from the crematorium would give it away, the smell of burning flesh is kind of unique

[@cherylk.2474]

Yes, this was the source of the rumors, but the Allies didn't believe. This is why Pilecki volunteered to go into Auschwitz. His mission was to confirm the activity and organize resistance. Then, after the war, the communists killed him, because the communists were as bad as the nazis. It was dangerous for Poles to recognize their own heros during all the years Poland was occupied by the Soviets after the war, about 50 years of occupation. Now, you need to learn about FAther Jerzy, he is another hero of Poland.

[@lucasrokitowski8707]

Not necessarily. They could have known something bad was happening but since they were considered "sub-human" themselves and were not allowed to go there regardless, they, most likely, simply didn't know for sure. It wasn't the same case as in Dahau, Germany, where the citizens covered the atrocities on purpose. If you smell a stench you don't immediately jump to a burning human flesh even today (have you personally smelled the stench of a person being burned alive? If not - there you have it), when you know this things happened, and back then they didn't even have this knowledge. Remember it was the Poles who notified the US first about the Holocaust. It is not that simple.

[@lukaszstegienko1855]

He was the greatest hero from poland. He came to concentration camp us volonture after thaht fight at Warsaw uprasing. After that he was killed us trytor from soviets

[@lenapa7236]

Wśród kapo byli nie tylko Niemcy i Polacy ale również żydzi i ukraińcy, a ci ostatni w większości.

[@jawiowo5188]

Owszem to wszystko prawda, ale nie w czasie gdy Pilecki wstąpił w te progi. W tym czasie więcej jednak było Niemców i Polaków. Ukraińcy na przykład zostawali kapo PO ataku Hitlerowców na ZSRR a nie przed. Zaś Żydzi wtedy gdy getta były likwidowane i masa Żydów "mieszkała" na terenie obozu.

[@lucasrokitowski8707]

@@jawiowo5188 - nie jest to prawdą. Ukraińskie oddziały wyzwoleńcze działały już w latach 30. Natomiast 25 lutego 1941 r. admirał Wilhelm Canaris zgodził się ponownie na utworzenie ukraińskiej organizacji bojowej. Ukraińcy walczyli po stronie nazistowskich Niemiec o wiele dłużej niż zdajesz się sugerować.

[@janjanczyk1326]

POLAND - First To Fight

[@apzaluska8615]

Because this is about suffering op Polish people is the reason

[@Roman-fn4dt]

Please react to Sabaton Counterstrike

[@rayceofhistory]

Sounds good, I’ll put it on my list.

[@Kostenloser]

what for a flag is that behind him?

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

hehehe ''that can give uss kind of facade'' .....as a trek guy said to his impressionable younger relative.. something along the lines of.. ''give humans food , warm beds and peaceful work and they are the nicest specie to be around.... but take any of that away ,kill ther friends and they turn into monsters'' to pretend a beasts heart not beats in your chest is to leave your mind open to be drowned in all the things its been blamed for should the primal urges kindle its rage...that is equal part of it.... as it is of the noble savage warrior all treasures the reflection of... both soaked in blood equally honest of its source.. and yes , people did not think it was real... its the opposite side of the coin so to speak , of course a lot did and turned either a blind eye or was part of it.. but for many others it all simply came down to the golden rule , it was not in ther capability to phantom such actions and not on such scales... only the true racists and facists hade thought of it and some where dangerously close to put it into action in usa concerning people of asian heritage as far i read... wanting to 'purge potential infiltrators efficiently' and such :/

[@krzysztofkobron9702]

antysemitysm nr 4859 ..