[TF2] How to Counter Trolldier (Part 2 of 3)

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SoundSmith

SoundSmith

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Part 1: • [TF2] How to Counter T...
More info on Neutral Game: smashboards.com/threads/under...
There's a lot of Melee-specific stuff in there, but it's also very helpful with more general definitions and stuff that can be used vs. Trolldier
Hey, I get it. You're sick of trolldier, and you're sick of how many show up every time I upload a video about 'em. You're probably wishing you had a better way to fight them. Well, that or you're already typing out an angry comment about how obvious this all is and how I and everyone else who plays trolldier is bad at the game. I'm not gonna argue that last part, it's pretty much true. But I'm still making this video. This is how you fight trolldiers.
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Source for that one Engie/Spy Skit: • The Entire Horse
Music (In order of appearance):
• Super Smash Brothers Melee OST - Trophy
• Super Smash Brothers Brawl OST - Animal Crossing (Title)
• Farasat Anees - Sandblast
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@noggin8216
@noggin8216 5 жыл бұрын
I’m kinda mad, I practiced trolldier for about 200+ hours, and then realized that the server I was on had increased airacceleration (meaning I could do ridiculously fast airstrafes) leaving me with no actual usable skill in trolldier.
@DeckoBoy99
@DeckoBoy99 5 жыл бұрын
Major OOF
@unclegrapes1928
@unclegrapes1928 5 жыл бұрын
That's just sad... I feel bad for you
@DeadliestDuck
@DeadliestDuck 5 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Johnson you poor poor soul
@lightlysal
@lightlysal 5 жыл бұрын
That's what you get for trolljering on a trade server
@raymain1587
@raymain1587 5 жыл бұрын
atleast it was a 0 gravity server
@whiz8569
@whiz8569 5 жыл бұрын
>Wildcard movement "Did he just walk up SLOWLY and downsmash?"
@jt6356
@jt6356 4 жыл бұрын
@@xaracen7207 he did, he really did
@wulfen2223
@wulfen2223 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like what i would do in smash bros ultimate
@normienormie9425
@normienormie9425 4 жыл бұрын
@@wulfen2223 This is a melee meme but yeah it could happen in ultimate
@boopsboops7692
@boopsboops7692 3 жыл бұрын
@@normienormie9425 It could happen in any smash bros game
@0ccasional_j035
@0ccasional_j035 3 жыл бұрын
Notak kekenui, jotaro, kesemata
@AcitoriaVakarianIdunno
@AcitoriaVakarianIdunno 5 жыл бұрын
"Wildcards are stupid shit that just might work" Stand there and stare that damn trolldier in the eyes and take out your pan, then jump up into the trolldier and show him why you're the best scrambled eggs chef in the world.
@Sir_Bucket
@Sir_Bucket 5 жыл бұрын
Demopan trading his sticky launcher for real man's balls. And also a shield
@johannesneumayer6041
@johannesneumayer6041 2 ай бұрын
„Y‘all better scramble like eggs before I fold you like an Omlett!“
@powderedmilk1801
@powderedmilk1801 5 жыл бұрын
"You ok, Patrick?" *f i n l a n d*
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 4 жыл бұрын
2:23
@Struggler3831
@Struggler3831 4 жыл бұрын
rejvaik thanks, you’re a hero
@dane5079
@dane5079 4 жыл бұрын
Land of the fin
@pwfox3963
@pwfox3963 4 жыл бұрын
rejvaik he is god
@pwfox3963
@pwfox3963 4 жыл бұрын
6:42 dead So ded Much ded
@red-hot
@red-hot 5 жыл бұрын
The stairs in that one room haven't been enveloped with a player clip brush. All stairs naturally have geometry but that brush is used to create an invisible incline so that player's view doesn't jolt up and down when climbing them.
@SoundSmithTF2
@SoundSmithTF2 5 жыл бұрын
Oooh, I didn't know this! That makes sense, thanks for the info.
@glyndekari
@glyndekari 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundSmithTF2 and I FUCKING hate those kinds of stairs because it just jolts your movement up and can also screw with other classes (e.g. scout trying to doublejump and getting stuck, or just jumping up these in general)
@jaylenarrogancia79
@jaylenarrogancia79 5 жыл бұрын
@@stillunt1tled321 and good csgo mapmaker
@crackermix7793
@crackermix7793 5 жыл бұрын
I went on your channel's main page and said. WHERE THE HELL IS PART 2?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA oh, i learned how to rocket jump so, congrats, you done it.
@MrFenixo
@MrFenixo 5 жыл бұрын
I believe most stairs also have a brush for the bullets, so soldier's rockets would be more reliable, and wouldn't have any problems with the geometry
@Shaymin0
@Shaymin0 5 жыл бұрын
aha, wild card! I know exactly what the opponent will not expect *killbinds* Try predicting that one david copperfield!
@wrongtime9097
@wrongtime9097 5 жыл бұрын
the ultimate power play is hitting a killbind whenever you do something stupid or miss an embarrassing amount of shots
@TwilightMelodyVT
@TwilightMelodyVT 5 жыл бұрын
*market gardens in spectator*
@AnInsaneOstrich
@AnInsaneOstrich 5 жыл бұрын
that's one of my favourite things to do. I've almost been kicked from servers from intentionally backing up so they think they have me then just spontaneously exploding.
@gavenpyeatt8885
@gavenpyeatt8885 5 жыл бұрын
The ultimate play will definitely take this to heart
@daksmyth9320
@daksmyth9320 5 жыл бұрын
200+ IQ plays
@kennyholmes5196
@kennyholmes5196 5 жыл бұрын
Ooh. Just realized something you missed: When trying to use movement to juke the Trolldier, *Be very wary and aggressive when they have the B.A.S.E Jumper equipped.* That thing extends a Trolldier's air range like nobody's business, even if it leaves them more vulnerable in the air as a result, so you want to take advantage of that.
@SoundSmithTF2
@SoundSmithTF2 5 жыл бұрын
Not to worry! This is something that I'll be covering in Part 3, when I talk about any special capabilities/asspulls that a Trolldier might use
@loganreads90
@loganreads90 5 жыл бұрын
Kenny Holmes Base Jumper Soldier = Magnet for Huntsman's Arrows.
@sovietspycrab718
@sovietspycrab718 5 жыл бұрын
If Mantreads, play the game of Keep Away and Jukes. If Base Jumper, Shoot the sitting duck and outpace their lack of air speed.
@Green24152
@Green24152 4 жыл бұрын
*chuckles lightly in crappy basejumping trolldier*
@MistakennJ
@MistakennJ 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoundSmithTF2 good :)
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 4 жыл бұрын
me: *shoots an afk enemy's head at point blank with the ambassador * game: *no crit and 19 damage *
@parasocks1613
@parasocks1613 4 жыл бұрын
yeetus collictus perfectly balanced, as all things should be
@JerrySucks
@JerrySucks 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a lota damage I one did 6 damage point blank afk enemy headshot
@-_-murilo2865
@-_-murilo2865 4 жыл бұрын
Me: *misses every ambassador shots game: *102 CRITICAL HIT
@maxwellmegagamer8535
@maxwellmegagamer8535 3 жыл бұрын
Tf2 hit registration. Am I right?
@sn1p1n
@sn1p1n 3 жыл бұрын
thats because of its nerf. but they should change it. make it do like 80 damage as the minimum damage. or 70.
@argonaww
@argonaww 5 жыл бұрын
Trolldier is like 20XX fox but without lasers, shine or nair.
@SoundSmithTF2
@SoundSmithTF2 5 жыл бұрын
Trolldier is like puff with super armor, but you can only go for raw rest
@alejandrofernandez6004
@alejandrofernandez6004 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundSmithTF2 10 bucks says that mango could pull that shit off
@retrored
@retrored 5 жыл бұрын
SoundSmith but rest does 195%
@zitpick5464
@zitpick5464 5 жыл бұрын
Without lasers you say? *pulls out bison*
@christopherfowler6108
@christopherfowler6108 5 жыл бұрын
@@zitpick5464 right, NO LASERS
@StickMaster500
@StickMaster500 5 жыл бұрын
I bet after this little series ends, Trolldier’s will be on the verge of becoming extinct.
@NiteArtorias
@NiteArtorias 5 жыл бұрын
So how ya doin' my favorite Master of Sticks and Memes
@TweetTweet17
@TweetTweet17 5 жыл бұрын
Trolldiers will become extinct and scunts will rapidly reproduce
@kirk6689
@kirk6689 5 жыл бұрын
Senpai notice me
@ipressedon9289
@ipressedon9289 5 жыл бұрын
No they won't. There's an endless supply of idiots waiting to get shoveled. Only smart players will become harder for trolldiers to deal with. :3
@noskalborg723
@noskalborg723 5 жыл бұрын
@@ipressedon9289 CHALLENGE INTENSIFIES "its delicious!"
@Kapin05
@Kapin05 5 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me Pipeline has bad stair clipping? _3kliksphilip intensifies_
@imgladnotu9527
@imgladnotu9527 4 жыл бұрын
*goes on to fix stair clipping for a good few episodes* | *valve/tf2 community accepts 3kliksphillip fix* | *le soundsmith gets fukt*
@no0b563
@no0b563 4 жыл бұрын
he doesnt know about f2
@surrk1057
@surrk1057 3 жыл бұрын
No0b Fortnite 2 doesn’t exist
@kerbonaut2059
@kerbonaut2059 3 жыл бұрын
valve pls fix
@ellukaxx2961
@ellukaxx2961 3 жыл бұрын
"Stairs in Source has always been a bumpy issue"
@Dreadballoon
@Dreadballoon 4 жыл бұрын
3:51-4:22 made me laugh harder than it should’ve.
@jordyn.
@jordyn. 5 жыл бұрын
now i can kill small shovel flying man heavy is very thankful
@apollothecoderule.8639
@apollothecoderule.8639 5 жыл бұрын
But, you're an engine!
@apollothecoderule.8639
@apollothecoderule.8639 5 жыл бұрын
-eer.
@yazidefirenze
@yazidefirenze 5 жыл бұрын
Engie is Russian. And he speaks for heavy
@DrRitterstein
@DrRitterstein 5 жыл бұрын
DeskApple Engie is texan.
@laughingchickene3371
@laughingchickene3371 5 жыл бұрын
Vince Marie Inguito *slaps ear on a engine* Enginear.
@ro2202
@ro2202 5 жыл бұрын
Part _2_ of a Soundsmith series has _prediction_ as it’s first point. Well played, Sound. Well played. _Also nice Entire Horse reference._
@gustavoh.70
@gustavoh.70 5 жыл бұрын
The complete equine
@SAPfilms2006
@SAPfilms2006 5 жыл бұрын
The Full Pony
@jouheikisaragi6075
@jouheikisaragi6075 5 жыл бұрын
Caballo Sin Division
@RepublicOfUs
@RepublicOfUs 5 жыл бұрын
Unaltered Stallion
@8BitMisdreavus
@8BitMisdreavus 5 жыл бұрын
The Entire Spy
@happyboi1447
@happyboi1447 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Sound use the DIO-ish voice-line while using Joesph Joestar
@saorlathesurly
@saorlathesurly 4 жыл бұрын
At what point in the video was this?
@autumnleaf2513
@autumnleaf2513 4 жыл бұрын
Around 4:00 - 4:34
@bungiesblueflames
@bungiesblueflames 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Dermody 16:13
@dewannabe8845
@dewannabe8845 4 жыл бұрын
I mean he was in part 3
@hypnos1608
@hypnos1608 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@pedro6277
@pedro6277 4 жыл бұрын
4:08 That should be a cosmetic an unusual one
@demko76
@demko76 4 жыл бұрын
The only time the smoking effect would be decent
@spino650
@spino650 3 жыл бұрын
M E N T L E G E N
@cassiopeia4581
@cassiopeia4581 5 жыл бұрын
Casual meta: Literally just cyberbullying trollidgers into changing classes
@MemeSlayer982
@MemeSlayer982 5 жыл бұрын
I just spy out the trolldier
@nathaniel1207
@nathaniel1207 5 жыл бұрын
That comment is why I queue for hightower
@Kreiser_VII
@Kreiser_VII 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathaniel1207 How often do you fail?
@TweetTweet17
@TweetTweet17 5 жыл бұрын
11:03 Yup, that’s me. You may be wondering how I got here.
@thebegottenwarrior3956
@thebegottenwarrior3956 4 жыл бұрын
"Dio paid me in advance to smoke, I-I'll give you that." "You really are a baguette, and a stupid one at that." "You can't stop me from taunting, just for money alone." *BAP BAM BOOP BAM*
@bigboykenob2244
@bigboykenob2244 4 жыл бұрын
THE ENTIRE HORSE
@warcedric2263
@warcedric2263 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigboykenob2244 the entire *stallion*
@Ifoundmyoldacc
@Ifoundmyoldacc 4 жыл бұрын
THE ENTIRE PONY
@Grindor-FR
@Grindor-FR 4 жыл бұрын
No
@guyfieri148
@guyfieri148 4 жыл бұрын
@@warcedric2263 partial pony
@googy2251
@googy2251 3 жыл бұрын
Soundsmith is like the teacher you really like learning with
@oxi9783
@oxi9783 5 жыл бұрын
Somehow you found a way to not only put a JoJo's reference in there but also a good one
@AVI-lh6rm
@AVI-lh6rm 5 жыл бұрын
Xemus dont forget the Fist of the North Star reference
@doomguy4618
@doomguy4618 5 жыл бұрын
2 joj references
@janreiafrica
@janreiafrica 5 жыл бұрын
That Engie and Spy skit voice lines I recognize very well
@wezerd
@wezerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hol Horse is best horse
@ratbonk8315
@ratbonk8315 5 жыл бұрын
wezerd agreed
@derekmendoza3901
@derekmendoza3901 5 жыл бұрын
*MENTELGEN*
@xcrackervolleyx
@xcrackervolleyx 5 жыл бұрын
*ENTIRE EQUESTRIAN*
@heythereboy0734
@heythereboy0734 5 жыл бұрын
All-Encompassing Atom
@lovi6438
@lovi6438 4 жыл бұрын
Normal meme: Yes but actually no Soundsmith version: yesno 10:07
@ThisGuyUsingYoutube
@ThisGuyUsingYoutube 3 жыл бұрын
Yesn't
@ani-mity3089
@ani-mity3089 5 жыл бұрын
6:42 *Open caption* "Oh my oh um ocean de route." XD
@edh8900
@edh8900 4 жыл бұрын
Nani????????????
@quietsamurai1998
@quietsamurai1998 4 жыл бұрын
Nah knee?
@Bootleg7GrandDad
@Bootleg7GrandDad 5 жыл бұрын
Guys don’t forget about the advice how to counter Trolldiers is to “Don’t back up” remember that boys or just be a true Trolldier
@juhosaarenpaa7727
@juhosaarenpaa7727 5 жыл бұрын
4:08 HOLY SHIT that spy's "Gentlemen " face cracked me up good time xDD
@daohq5451
@daohq5451 4 жыл бұрын
Mentlegen
@daohq5451
@daohq5451 4 жыл бұрын
Mentlegen kills engi with gun says this gun before engi says with dios money?
@daohq5451
@daohq5451 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wait
@daohq5451
@daohq5451 4 жыл бұрын
This is at night lol
@Jofoyo
@Jofoyo 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Sound, instead of using frame interpolation for slow motion, I would really consider looking into recording demos instead and using host_timescale with a > 1 scalar factor, as it's honestly really shoddy with your current technique, and just turns everything into a mess with the amount of distortion. There's just not enough frame information for the computer to know what to do. This'll improve your production quality by a lot more, plus you can do other things in demos like disable hud, do out of person camera movements, and adjust other console parameters in post, and nestles your whole recording into a single low file size .dem
@sandvichmuffin4245
@sandvichmuffin4245 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is random but its nice to see comments like this where they can really help the creator (and also im getting into editing so this can help me to)
@Jofoyo
@Jofoyo 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandvichmuffin4245 damn i don't even remember writing this comment
@sandvichmuffin4245
@sandvichmuffin4245 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jofoyo lol
@sandvichmuffin4245
@sandvichmuffin4245 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jofoyo either way thanks for the tip bro
@Cratacus
@Cratacus 3 жыл бұрын
“Dont back out, trust me” Me a year later with three kids Mhm, great advice bud
@kempolar9768
@kempolar9768 Жыл бұрын
Damn 3 in one year?
@InitiateDee
@InitiateDee Жыл бұрын
@@kempolar9768 triplets? Who knows
@helix5729
@helix5729 5 жыл бұрын
I just realized how much trolldier is like spy... relying on generally odd gimmicks to get in and out efficiently (invis/dead ringer and rocket jumper + Mann treads) relying on odd and deceptive movement to bait enemies to do what you want to land a garden (comparable to all forms of trickstabbing) using a gimmicky melee that often doesn't register properly (failstabs and "getting hitreg'd" as they say) and only being able to focus on one person at a time. Hell, as a spy main who knows how to trickstab I noticed I often use many spy trickstab tactics to land gardens, ex: bait people to follow me around a corner (say on the large health pack by cliff) to only do a "short-hop" (more smash comparisons ) to either smack em when they round the corner or jump over them entirely and get them from behind so they don't even see you. Or on say the corner stairway to get back to your spawn on Hightower, you can do something similar to a corner stairstab but now because you have the rocket jumper you can essentially fly over their head without them even seeing you and with the extra strafing power of the manntreads and the speed of your rocket jump they have little time to react. So I guess now whenever a trolldier fails a tricky market garden we have to belittle and taunt them too and if they do land that tricky garden I guess we need to blame it on lag comp and hitreg instead of accepting that they fooled us... yeah no I'm still salty about all the meme lords who belittle spies for trying to trickstab and act like their absurdly similar play style is clearly superior and is never to be mocked to the same degree... God damn it.
@gronglus25
@gronglus25 Жыл бұрын
I hate it when people mock spies going for cool stabs, let them try asshole :((
@waitingfortheequinnox
@waitingfortheequinnox Жыл бұрын
Never thought of it that way. The differences (and the choice) between Trolldier and trickstab-Spy boil down to: speed or stealth?
@pikariocraftf2802
@pikariocraftf2802 5 жыл бұрын
as somebody who works with Hammer (the mapping tool for source games) from time to time, I can explain 10:00 you see, there is a bug in the source engine which makes stairs stop blast damage if you shoot a rocket at it (because the rocket damage would be "hitting around a corner"), to prevent that, mappers use a "blockbullets" clip brush over the stairs, which makes them into ramps, these stairs on pipeline don't seem to have that brush, making them also shaky to walk upon, this is also one of the reasons there is a clip-brush there... they aren't ramps with textures on them, they are props with clip-brushes through them to help gameplay.
@suhg4317
@suhg4317 5 жыл бұрын
PikariocrafTF 2 so that explains b4nny’s zero damage rockets
@pikariocraftf2802
@pikariocraftf2802 5 жыл бұрын
@@suhg4317 - I don't follow b4nny but yeah probably
@hometimemayhem928
@hometimemayhem928 3 жыл бұрын
I ONLY wildcard, oh he’s jumping at me? Cool ima overcharge my loose cannon and blow us both up
@darkspired420
@darkspired420 4 жыл бұрын
8:53 was pretty epic and you can’t deny it
@imaginaryedge60
@imaginaryedge60 5 жыл бұрын
10:17 Actually, those stairs are actually stairs, not textures. They just placed an invisible ramp there for consistentcy of the camera or some other reason. But on those stairs... ehhh they probably forgot to put it.
@ipressedon9289
@ipressedon9289 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right, otherwise shooting through the stairs wouldn't be possible, right?
@teddyroosebelt4815
@teddyroosebelt4815 5 жыл бұрын
Here, we see the rare stairs. This is a marvelous feat that is pretty much the only herd of them. Due to the low player level on the map, they can live happily and peacefully.
@ramanjjii
@ramanjjii 5 жыл бұрын
Its called clipping
@GreenGuyCombine
@GreenGuyCombine 5 жыл бұрын
It’s usually called a player clip
@mmmm-hx5iw
@mmmm-hx5iw 5 жыл бұрын
*[Gasps in Nani]*
@qtulhoo
@qtulhoo 5 жыл бұрын
\m/\m/ \m/\m/ *Blinks in Weeaboo*
@g-money9009
@g-money9009 5 жыл бұрын
hoLy ShIt Is ThAt A JoJo ReFeReNcE?!?!?!?
@crosby_underscore4987
@crosby_underscore4987 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Yes! Yes!
@laurimansikka-aho5819
@laurimansikka-aho5819 4 жыл бұрын
YES!
@Destroyer54329
@Destroyer54329 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is DIO yes it is
@Ob1tuber
@Ob1tuber 4 жыл бұрын
NEIN
@reesebeld8754
@reesebeld8754 4 жыл бұрын
YES! YES! YES! YES! Y E S !
@vladimirputin3426
@vladimirputin3426 4 жыл бұрын
nobody: literally nobody: SoundSmith: whasdee
@Sirebellum1337
@Sirebellum1337 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of people say it like that
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sirebellum1337 I say "Wah-sid"
@Jessie_Helms
@Jessie_Helms 5 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Stereotypes was a new, fresh, exciting series with a bright future ahead of it.
@markay779
@markay779 5 жыл бұрын
4:08 That needs to be a real cosmetic
@samuellloydtan944
@samuellloydtan944 4 жыл бұрын
Just saving my favorite part of the vid. 3:50
@eliseosaul1721
@eliseosaul1721 4 жыл бұрын
Engi: What are you gonna shot of of your Gun Dio’s money? Spy: Bullets more likely *kills engi* then taunts
@lemonade3274
@lemonade3274 5 жыл бұрын
Or, you know, not play on Hightower.
@zoomspilo6798
@zoomspilo6798 5 жыл бұрын
no
@gavenpyeatt8885
@gavenpyeatt8885 5 жыл бұрын
But it showed him playing other maps Oh no their migrating
@myleg7012
@myleg7012 5 жыл бұрын
The whole video can be broken down to the last part of Last Surprise from Persona 5.
@sandvichmuffin4245
@sandvichmuffin4245 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ianteare-thomas8604
@ianteare-thomas8604 5 жыл бұрын
14:15 "yeah I totally stabbed his back what do you mean guys?"
@lensters0
@lensters0 5 жыл бұрын
10:18 UMM ACKsually soundmith tee eff 2 the ramps are modeled like stairs with brushes but the clipping is changed to be a ramp
@thatoneguy9983
@thatoneguy9983 5 жыл бұрын
11:22 hi I’m soundsmith and welcome to know your meme
@copperCCSD
@copperCCSD 5 жыл бұрын
I play trolldier by hitting my killbind when I should’ve hit my melee.
@GreatWorkBoss
@GreatWorkBoss 5 жыл бұрын
Ive got a question... People play _Pipeline?_
@pgmr6304
@pgmr6304 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@Mr.nesser
@Mr.nesser 3 жыл бұрын
New players and those wanting to abuse new players
@Yourthighness298
@Yourthighness298 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to say your Hitman series was amazing! All of your videos are! Keep up the good work
@theepiccrimson5335
@theepiccrimson5335 5 жыл бұрын
how to defeat trolldier step 1. walk forward step 2. look behind you step 3. miss your shot step 4. report trolldier because he obviously hacked your bullets step 5. tell him he's hella gay step 6. profit
@xalz8538
@xalz8538 5 жыл бұрын
???
@theepiccrimson5335
@theepiccrimson5335 5 жыл бұрын
@@xalz8538 dont ask, you dirty spy main
@xalz8538
@xalz8538 5 жыл бұрын
@@theepiccrimson5335 ;_;
@theepiccrimson5335
@theepiccrimson5335 5 жыл бұрын
@@xalz8538 filthy weeb
@teddyroosebelt4815
@teddyroosebelt4815 5 жыл бұрын
How to actually defeat Trolldier 1. Get a Huntsman (I use the Fortified Compound, which also works) 2. Fire a arrow 3. Manage to hit him 4. Fire another arrow 5. Manage to survive in the opening on a Hightower map
@Ruvric
@Ruvric 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like someone wanted Animal Crossing news in the last direct.
@BBelugawhale
@BBelugawhale 4 жыл бұрын
4:08 if that isn’t already a cosmetic i want it in-game
@lolm8376
@lolm8376 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see a trolldier I simply say “oh, your approaching me?”
@Frisk_Afton1997
@Frisk_Afton1997 4 жыл бұрын
“I can’t beat the shit out of you with my shovel without jumping closer.”
@plaguebringer7865
@plaguebringer7865 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh ho! Then come as close as you'd like!"
@monsieursaboteur7282
@monsieursaboteur7282 5 жыл бұрын
@SoundSmithTF2
@SoundSmithTF2 5 жыл бұрын
no u
@red14k96
@red14k96 5 жыл бұрын
no me
@Ch1ptunedREAL
@Ch1ptunedREAL 5 жыл бұрын
AWWWW HOW CUTE
@af2xedhat841
@af2xedhat841 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundSmithTF2 this make me cri
@janreiafrica
@janreiafrica 5 жыл бұрын
Soundsmith is a madlad
@tbotalpha8133
@tbotalpha8133 5 жыл бұрын
I've always found practising Conditioning (and the associated back-and-forth mind games) really hard in TF2. The game is so chaotic, that it's really hard to tell what any given player has been conditioned to do at any given time. Like in your Spy/Engie stairstab example, you might stairstab an Engineer twice, so by the third time he recognises a pattern and doesn't pursue you up stairs. Meanwhile you realise that he's figured out your trick, and start shooting at him instead. But that interaction only works if you're sure the Engineer is the same person every time. After two stairstabs, the Engineer might get frustrated and switch to Pyro. Then you might try to bait the Pyro into a stairstab, thinking it's a different player who is ignorant of your tricks, only to get outwitted and punished. Similarly, the sheer number of other players around makes for an extremely unpredictable system. You might get one stairstab on the Engineer, but some other Spy on your team might get two more. So when you come round to try another stairstab, the Engineer has already been conditioned not to pursue, and you get punished for it. How exactly are you supposed to get around these problems?
@sddragon28
@sddragon28 5 жыл бұрын
TBot Alpha by changing the tactics you’re using too, and being aware of the new classes you see. Example: if I’m a scout who killed a spy with the same tactics three times, I’m gonna expect him to try a different approach. I may counter this by kill feed reading to see if he’s still on that class, and to see if he’s more into taking out teammates over chasing me. Plus if I know a spy will favor pyro/heavy to counter scoots, then I can be more cautious around those classes. As for teammates stealing tactics, try moving to a different part of the map. Alternatively, switching classes can at least toss the enemy off you, and focus them on the teammate who’s already stairstabbed them multiple times. I hope some of that gibberish can come in handy. This game is too in depth for its hat sim roots.
@HAKeller
@HAKeller 4 жыл бұрын
just read their mind lol gg ez
@HAKeller
@HAKeller 4 жыл бұрын
just read their mind lol gg ez
@HAKeller
@HAKeller 4 жыл бұрын
just read their mind lol gg ez
@anger_birb
@anger_birb 5 жыл бұрын
Sound, your videos are honestly really high quality. Thanks for taking the time to make good content. I love your channel.
@willonapop6184
@willonapop6184 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say I really appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning of the video that says its in multiple parts. It helps alot
@michaelmainSelfImprovement
@michaelmainSelfImprovement 5 жыл бұрын
Just become Dio and Za Warudo their asses Edit: thanks for useless internet points
@duchesszalle
@duchesszalle 5 жыл бұрын
_cough_ weeb shit _cough_
@gremlinton9815
@gremlinton9815 5 жыл бұрын
@@duchesszalle said a guy with pikachu as pfp
@duchesszalle
@duchesszalle 5 жыл бұрын
@@gremlinton9815 Ngl I had this pfp for like 5 years. When I used to absolutely love Pkmn.
@unclegrapes1928
@unclegrapes1928 5 жыл бұрын
@@duchesszalle imagine calling other people weebs but having a weeb pfp
@duchesszalle
@duchesszalle 5 жыл бұрын
@@unclegrapes1928 I prefer the games over the shitty anime.
@imawafflethatlovescubes36
@imawafflethatlovescubes36 3 жыл бұрын
4:00 JOJO REFERENCE!!!!!
@FacetLOL
@FacetLOL 5 жыл бұрын
@SoundSmith I just stumbled upon your channel for the first time after 2 years, and then realized that you bought your collectors rocket jumper from me back in the day. That kinda made me nostalgic, anyways, great content, keep it up dude :P
@crumptf256
@crumptf256 5 жыл бұрын
i love how much effort you put into your videos. You have to by now be recognized as one of the greatest TF2 KZbinrs ever.
@ASadWeeaboo
@ASadWeeaboo 4 жыл бұрын
His simple tone of voice saying "Start the respawning time omae wa mou mou shindeiru" killed me. XD
@nemodaremo9524
@nemodaremo9524 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh my wamo shin die roo" -Soundsmith, 6:43 2019
@davidhong1934
@davidhong1934 4 жыл бұрын
Nah knee?
@Drywalleaterr
@Drywalleaterr 4 жыл бұрын
So basically: Doppio would be a god tier trollier.
@gato6373
@gato6373 5 жыл бұрын
Probably the first person I've seen using anime references this well. Also using fighting games as an example is a good choice, the FGC can be volatile from time to time but they are quite through when it comes to explaining the aspects of the games and that can be applied. Overall Nice Job!
@WynnofThule
@WynnofThule 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the real best tactic: perma-scoping!
@jacobcasely8045
@jacobcasely8045 5 жыл бұрын
Was... was that a Stardust Crusaders Abridged reference?
@darklordgamer8565
@darklordgamer8565 3 жыл бұрын
5:22:"I have to go now, my planet needs me" *procceds into third dimension*
@wckd
@wckd 5 жыл бұрын
This was a really great video Soundsmith. When I play trolldrier I'm always trying to predict the enemies movements.
@Mattulaak
@Mattulaak 5 жыл бұрын
2:16 best moment in Soundsmith's career.
@thatguybrody4819
@thatguybrody4819 5 жыл бұрын
I am a wild card. just spam WASD and spin the mouse wildly and they will look at you and think what the hell is this guy doing? do i back up or keep going wait left what is this?! i coin "they can't hit you if you don't know where you are going either" it is great for playing hit the scout on top of 2fort bridge when there are 2 or more snipers. they have you lined up then you go sideways while looking down then jump horizontally whilst looking straight and then go southwest whilst looking at the sky northish. what the hell is this? where do i shoot? the head is going in directions that do not make sense to where he is facing. i love doing this.
@thomasmann1091
@thomasmann1091 4 жыл бұрын
I'm stealing this technique.
@localidiotnumber792
@localidiotnumber792 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Beggars Bazooka technique. "If I don't know what's happening, you don't know what's happening"
@thatguybrody4819
@thatguybrody4819 3 жыл бұрын
@@localidiotnumber792 the Beggars Bazooka Technique. you sir are a genius.
@yakketyyak6414
@yakketyyak6414 5 жыл бұрын
I really like this series; I've never been particularly angry at trolldiers (not really), simply because I know that I'm not all that good at TF2 in the first place. But this series is really helpful because "higher brain functions" are not, as I have found, not my forte.
@Leoreoo
@Leoreoo 2 жыл бұрын
Weirdly enough this video provided a bunch of great gameplay tips even outside of the trolldier matchup. I love it.
@ianteare-thomas8604
@ianteare-thomas8604 4 жыл бұрын
"madador stab" *shows clip of him stabbing a scout in the face*
@supersanscraftcommentediti5337
@supersanscraftcommentediti5337 5 жыл бұрын
6:40 my favorite part... AKA, every enemy player to me
@darwin7426
@darwin7426 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you soundsmith for getting me back into TF2 Its been a rollercoaster
@acmargatroid
@acmargatroid 3 жыл бұрын
10:40 Sorry if you already know this, but it's actually the other way around. Stair models with proper collision already set for them have an invisible ramp placed on top of them. They're called "clips" and they're mega useful in smoothing out jank geometry for players and whatever physics items may apply. Clipping stairs into ramps is standard for any source map because it makes it a lot smoother (instead of bumping up/down every step). It allows for more precise positioning and aiming. The reason why some maps may not have clipping is because well... map makers can be lazy about it. This can go to even the individual stair level. It's more work to clip every single set of stairs present in your level, and even if you try, you might forget some. Beyond that, properly clipping maps wasn't something Valve did until some time after the release of TF2. I don't know when that map was released but chances are it was before clipping became standardized, and they never bothered to update it (probably because no-one plays plr maps other than hightower).
@teufortimusprime4929
@teufortimusprime4929 3 жыл бұрын
How to counter trolldier: leave game
@am19_7
@am19_7 5 жыл бұрын
4:30, did he use the rocket jumper with gunboats?
@mana_bahama
@mana_bahama 5 жыл бұрын
sod smit said boot good
@Ace-hd9og
@Ace-hd9og 3 жыл бұрын
2:59 That bit with conditioning was so damn smooth.
@I_Am_The_Milkman
@I_Am_The_Milkman 5 жыл бұрын
Watching the long rocket jump combos is soooo satisfying
@Quickstein
@Quickstein 5 жыл бұрын
2:16 Accurate explanation of idiot memelords in TF2 in general. Edit: Also I can't get over how well-synced that all is, like omfg.
@smileytf2317
@smileytf2317 5 жыл бұрын
U FOOL IM A POLAR BEAR
@SoundSmithTF2
@SoundSmithTF2 5 жыл бұрын
Y O U R I C E O N L Y M A K E S M E S T R O N G E R
@gavenpyeatt8885
@gavenpyeatt8885 5 жыл бұрын
Ok
@shortbanjos8522
@shortbanjos8522 5 жыл бұрын
2:15 another great example that Spongebob can explain anything.
@Gateway2000Mousepad
@Gateway2000Mousepad 5 жыл бұрын
God damn it i was really expecting a jojo reference when you talked about running away
@davidhong1934
@davidhong1934 5 жыл бұрын
*~NIGERUNDAYO! Smokey!*
@andotus7637
@andotus7637 5 жыл бұрын
No the Prometheus school of running away from things is a cinemasins inside joke
@doomguy4618
@doomguy4618 5 жыл бұрын
KumPupp pretty sure it’s the joestar family secret technique
@4444ragnarok
@4444ragnarok 5 жыл бұрын
SoundSmith what do you think about kirby games's OST?
@germanromero8152
@germanromero8152 4 жыл бұрын
Soundsmith: explains things about neutral game, prediction, movement and positioning Meanwhile me, a tryhard Smash bros player: *I am 1 step ahead my meme spoon boi*
@zacharyroberts2815
@zacharyroberts2815 11 ай бұрын
Sound Smith truly is a talented content creator. I'm here learning so much about this game that I don't play just cause its entertaining.
@Charger-oi2pz
@Charger-oi2pz 4 жыл бұрын
What's the voice at 3:55
@evangelos4346
@evangelos4346 4 жыл бұрын
15:33 You could also walk a bit backwards first, then move forwards to make them think you’re gonna back up when you in reality are gonna go forward. This works especially well with scout due to his speed, and can be ridiculous if using the baby face’s blaster.
@NewgirlNola
@NewgirlNola 3 жыл бұрын
That scene with the engineer and the spy was a masterpiece.
@AhnafFatin4
@AhnafFatin4 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@greydevorator49
@greydevorator49 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice series! I love it
@thesoldiertf2774
@thesoldiertf2774 3 жыл бұрын
how to counter trolldier natascha done
@Soleial
@Soleial 3 жыл бұрын
but then you're an arse
@arandomcommenter6759
@arandomcommenter6759 2 жыл бұрын
Salt slinger
@speedwagongaming2520
@speedwagongaming2520 5 жыл бұрын
Oh Sound... Market garden me harder...
@zonecalibur372
@zonecalibur372 5 жыл бұрын
oWo
@Pistolemaster
@Pistolemaster 5 жыл бұрын
What the fuck
@duchesszalle
@duchesszalle 5 жыл бұрын
*Nani the fuck*
@thenicky-T
@thenicky-T 5 жыл бұрын
Um excuse me wtf
@kirk6689
@kirk6689 5 жыл бұрын
*Owo whats that? UwU*
@Blossoming_Fate
@Blossoming_Fate 5 жыл бұрын
" [Gasps in Nani] " Why am I laughing at this so hard?! It's so dumb but I cant stop!
@DustinMillerPolyInnovator
@DustinMillerPolyInnovator 5 жыл бұрын
Okay bro, take out all the tf2 references, and you have one of the best Business training videos out there. lol
@Icg-xf2vs
@Icg-xf2vs 5 жыл бұрын
Hit or miss I guess they never hit huh.
@Rivr_Shen
@Rivr_Shen 5 жыл бұрын
MemeGod you’re not a meme god if you use dead memes
@datoneb0135
@datoneb0135 5 жыл бұрын
Crit or miss*
@tanglingbat06
@tanglingbat06 5 жыл бұрын
Boston Basher?
@Icg-xf2vs
@Icg-xf2vs 5 жыл бұрын
CrossingPanic5 my name is a meme I don’t actually think am a MemeLord lmao
@noskalborg723
@noskalborg723 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rivr_Shen if a meme is dead, then "nobody expects..." it so using it is actually better than using a stale current meme. humor logic, just saying. policing whether people are using dead memes is a keyboard warrior subclass. You may recognize their more popularly pointed out SJW subclass. for example: the things I hated more than the Ugandan knuckles meme itself were A; people missing the joke and doing wrong because they thought they could grab views easily. B; people screaming at people for using a "dead meme" when they used Ugandan Knuckles. I can understand the people who honestly complained that it was cancer. But trying to call someone out for using a "dead meme" just makes you look like a meme nazi. PS: I realize I technically am a keyboard warrior subclassed as an explanation addict. but I acknowledge that i have a problem.... my crappy internet! XD, I'll see myself out.
@allenbackbone
@allenbackbone 5 жыл бұрын
Is soundsmith's channel basically just a big JoJo reference?
@modernscream1606
@modernscream1606 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@angrymonkey9925
@angrymonkey9925 4 жыл бұрын
I like how in the "The Entire Horse" skit you did, the real context of the video is still a texan and a frenchman talking.
@edward1007
@edward1007 Жыл бұрын
5:24 3 years later this clip is still hilarious. The way the soldiers legs fly backwards releasing his ammo pack into space is just so fucking funny to me
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