TF2: The Manmelter Needs SOMETHING

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[@free_playstation_2]

The Manmelter needs to be able to melt women as well

[@aneasteregg8171]

Yeah, equality!

[@lukamtc9188]

Not just the men, but the women and children too.

[@suri2530]

Femmelter when?

[@jeremyranger4260]

this is the 50's what do you expect?

[@smithsam3727]

@@lukamtc9188 Anakin, you are breaking my heart!

[@bossman983]

I'll be totally honest, I didn't realize the Manmelter even had a "sucking" animation because the animation never actually played for me.

[@feetcoveredincheetosdust8029]

I never knew i could store crit

[@extendedmag9411]

Didn’t even know you could extinguish with it

[@superfnafmario3054]

I feel stupid because I thought to extinguish your team you had to SHOOT them with primary fire not altfire

[@geroldgerold7319]

I have 2k hours and I didn’t know until now

[@jayjaygolden5123]

same LMAO i didnt even know it sucked i thought you just press the button once real quick and it kind of science'd the burn away or some shit

[@AngryTheGnome]

"The Scorchshot: *IT'S HAPPENING*" I fell off my chair laughing

[@xeanderman6688]

GOD

[@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire]

Give it like 50% faster reload speed as well, make it be a primary when it needs to be. Would work really nicely with Phlog.

[@blooperbloups9318]

I think a more ranged pyro set would be cool, I already kinda play like that as pyro so it would be nice.

[@creeperizak8971]

It already works with the phlog

[@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire]

@@creeperizak8971 Given my changes, it would work better with the Phlog than it currently does.

[@sirshitassingtoniii9944]

It doesn’t need ammo tho

[@sirshitassingtoniii9944]

@mehdi Haddou and also. The fire rate is ASS

[@aneasteregg8171]

Are we just gonna ignore the Phlogistonator? This weapon was quite obviously built to synergize with it, giving Phlog pyros a way to extinguish teammates. Not that I'm saying a weapon built to work well only with one other weapon is good design, or that most Phlog pyros don't just take the selfish choice of Scorch Shot, but still. It's worth mention.

[@GermanPeter]

There's no reason to use it with the Phlog, that's the thing. If you need to build your MMMPH-meter faster, you'll use the Scorch Shot or basically any other flaregun. It was basically just Valve's way of saying "Hey guys, you can't airblast with the Phlog, so here's a weapon that does it for you". But if you use the Phlog, you're not gonna airblast much anyway, and you can build your meter much faster with the other flareguns than by relying on the Manmelter to get crits and build it that way.

[@jameshess5474]

GermanPeter HELLO GERMANPETER

[@Banana-uc4yx]

GermanPeter Hi German daddy

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

Thats.... useless.

[@jerphf2096]

i use the phlog extensively, and i see no big use for the mannmelter. I prefer the panic attacks burst damage (as im often right up in the enemy's face) or the detonator for movement. Yes the melter has its set purpose, but i dont see many upsides to using it

[@marcusjakobsson4321]

"What do you think of the mannmelter" Hell, i forgot it actually existed in first place

[@guiteshima]

I only have the Mannmelter and the Flare Gun, so i only know this thing because of that.

[@pie6029]

When I got the weapon I was surprised that it even existed

[@AGrayPhantom]

3:40 THE ALT-FIRE HAS AN ANIMATION!? I've been playing this game for years! I've never noticed the alt-fire suck has an animation!!

[@jackstorm670]

I didn't know it HAD an alt fire

[@temkin9298]

@@jackstorm670 well I didn't know you could hold it

[@ieatpotato3371]

The man melter isn’t a bad weapon but it gets overshadowed by the ambassador

[@speeder.x9983]

Spy weapon stereotypes came out a while ago.

[@karenoreilly7951]

We know

[@acasualbeancan246]

I would have agreed with the statement, but it’s overshadowed by the ambassador

[@Zilly.]

oh yea i remember pyro using the ambassador

[@MaoRatto]

The Man Melter I would say is a great weapon... To punish opposing teams on dustbowl. If you can land your shots. People will start complaining on the enemy team to " STOP PLAYING PHLOG PYRO! "

[@thatonecomedian3327]

The manmelter is a decent weapon, but you do have to remember it was designed with the phlog in mind. Its whole extinguish shtick is to cover the phlogs inability to. You dont need to have crits on burning people when you have crits on demand with the phlog. When put with other primaries, its still alright, the only real change it needs imo is a buff to its reload speed. My grandma does taxes faster than that things reload. Other than that, its a decent side grade to the other flares.

[@DestroyedClone]

I was confused he didn't mention the phlog followed by like "but if youre using the phlog you're probably already not helping your teammates already and using the Scorch Shot"

[@chuckmann7127]

The reload speed I believe is the same as all the other flares now. The only difference is that because there is no reload animation it seems like it should be shorter. Maybe make the reload animation be the refilling of the liquid in the back of the weapon, and when it is full, it is ready to fire?

[@michelangelangelo7091]

Find me one pyro that uses the Manmelter with the Phlog

[@thatonecomedian3327]

@@michelangelangelo7091 me. Im that pyro

[@chuckmann7127]

@@michelangelangelo7091 I use it for the one time a year I use the Phlog because I feel evil using the Scorch Shot.

[@The_RetroManiac]

0:39 My favorite part.

[@bogusmetz]

My theory is that the scorch shot is the reason for global warming prove me wrong

[@putridmoldyman306]

"The manmelter is bad because airblast exists" Its almost like it was specifically designed to be used with the phlog, a flamethrower that cant airblast or something

[@toomanyeyesjoe1438]

Nah, that’d be crazy Right? Right?

[@kundankhushu1213]

We don't talk about the Phlog.

[@thelastmlg2699]

A weapon that forces you to use it with single weapon is bad. The degreaser is a combo weapon and you can use it effectively with both shotguns and flare guns (except scorch shot, unless you want to catapult them away)

[@putridmoldyman306]

@@thelastmlg2699 It doesn't force you, its just best used with it Just like you dont need to use the bootlegger with your shield, its just much better with it

[@thelastmlg2699]

@@putridmoldyman306 "it was specifically designed" sounds like "forces you" Not only that, i it is only good with one flamethrower but bad with the others, it is still bad.

[@Ludwig_Perpenhente]

I love how KZbin is so late that I already watched this but they notified me that this got uploaded 6 Days later

[@zester000]

That happens with almost every notification for me, it's annoying

[@hagenaubram6341]

All I can say is that this channel is way underrated and should be more known

[@kannatheweeb8836]

Weebs r gods thats why

[@TheSeabornGaming]

That’s 100% true

[@TheSeabornGaming]

Kanna The Weeb Lol I love how he has Asuka as his mascot.

[@bionic5514]

I didn’t know the manmelter existed until this video

[@umplayful]

Editing quality is great.

[@chuckmann7127]

The Manmelter was clearly designed to be used with the Phlog, so I suggest that when the Phlog's crits are active, the Manmelter gets guaranteed mini-crit shots for the duration of the effect. This would also have the added benefit of promoting a less brainless play style with the Phlog, as it would make WM1ing not the only good strategy.

[@lukamtc9188]

It's already situational enough, yeah it was designed to replace airblasting to some degree and give you a reward for using it that way but it should be viable with other flamethrowers too.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

minicrits when crits are zero could work for lone wolf/ambush pyros.

[@mohammadwaled409]

Why not guaranteed crits?

[@lautaroruiz4143]

Yeah because the phlog is a fun weapon and totally doesn't need a rework

[@mohammadwaled409]

@@lautaroruiz4143 as good as that would be the developers have better things to do

[@ThunderhunterFTW]

The man melter just feels so weird to me, there's no reload animation so it's hard for me to really know when its ready to shoot, the projectile feels week even though it does the same damage, the sounds make it feel so goddamn bad. Maybe make it sound more powerful or maybe penetrate enemies, idk. maybe bison but spicy?

[@trevorrose3769]

Penetrating enemies actually sounds like a cool idea for the weapon. Would it be all that useful in many situations? No. But, I’d definitely use it more if it could do that lol

[@SonicSanctuary]

now theres an idea!

[@figeon]

Give it a faster reload, and that’s all. It pairs quite nicely with the backburner and phlog.

[@mpg01]

I feel like I'm the only person in all of TF2 who uses the Mannmelter seriously.

[@benismann]

Im playing crits only server (just cos im shit at this game and its fun) and using manmelter to snipe people so... i guess im using it seriously?

[@mateuszmarciniak2828]

Well, you're wrong, because I use it too, with a Phlogistynator. It was made to work with it, plus you are still a valuable asset to the team (in contrast to Phlog Trash with a Scorch Shot).

[@zarramorgan3390]

I have the Flare Gun but I Use the Manmelter, I just like it.

[@thedangboi7198]

Shh brother. It is ok.

[@pancakes8816]

Underrated weapons gang, i use the loose cannon seriously. I cant see why its a meme, its actually pretty strong

[@bloodybladenum1920]

do you remeber when it gave free mini crits for having it out long enough yeah I do too, I miss it

[@bloodybladenum1920]

also hey I was view 90 ayyy Q&A:do you miss the old bison?

[@drivanradosivic1357]

At least making the Manmelter cause minicrits when not vacuuming fire would be good. I made a distinction so "without exitnguish=minicrits while with exinguish=crits" so you can have upsides when you don't look for enemy pyro rampages. as for the Bison, maybe give it a piercing mode primary and alt fire is the multihit that goes through 3 people? Plus you can add a "when medigun altfire boosted use alt fire function" or just make that a Kritzkrieg(and Minicrit Miniuber version of the Vacc) upside?

[@itsaseal9169]

Bloodyblade num1 what did it originally do?

[@drivanradosivic1357]

@Daniel von Strangle replying to the top comments with similar topics to what I have in mind has higher chance of being noticed.

[@bloodybladenum1920]

@@itsaseal9169 it was pretty much a phlog pups only way to extinguishe, it made the same beep as the reload if you had it out without firing for long enough you'd get mini crits, I forgot what the old apt fire was, I think it's still the same though Don't quote me on that part on the old alt fire

[@magoichi75]

I feel that the other flare guns are just...well too strong in their respective fields for the manmelter to even attempt to compete. It would need a mega buff to even attempt some minor ground work or bringing all flare guns down so it can compete.

[@aetu35]

the flare guns arent too strong the manmelter is too weak

[@saba-rr8dw]

@@aetu35 the flare guns aren't too strong, except the scorch shit, which without an extreme buff to be utterly op as fuck like the scorch shit, it can't simply compete with it

[@mariustan9275]

​@@saba-rr8dw Maybe give it a faster fire rate. Maybe a 40% fire rate like the upgrade in MvM. Wouldn't do anything except set people on fire since there's no crit on hit or explosion so it wouldn't do anything other than set people on fire. Plus add the remove any status effect to it.

[@neutronpcxt372]

Perhaps they could make it so that for every 4 crits you store, you get one main weapon crit? Just an idea.

[@mariustan9275]

@@neutronpcxt372 Sounds cool. If you use this with th ephlog you get evem more crits. If you use this with any other weapon, more damage why not.

[@shanethebrownwolf5575]

Besides fixing it’s bugs, they could finally add that the projectile cannot be reflected like it was originally advertised to have

[@rikolia]

"I don't know why he has a hole in his face and I can't fix it" Why couldn't you just fill the hole? Block the hole by writing "I" in white over it rather than write that sentence in black over the character?

[@TheDsRequiem]

Probably specifically to cultivate comments like yours.

[@vivelespatat2670]

@@TheDsRequiem business is business

[@luizgarcia3081]

The balance mod hosted by creators.tf gave it +20% reload speed AND damage, making it deal 40 damage on most classes and a whooping 100+ damage on a crit hit. The "cleaner" attribute suggested by Zesty is pretty interesting too, because i like that weapon both by its super weird aesthetics and because i don't have to burn out my ammo to extinguish my teammates. Good vid my man, keep the good work.

[@seemo5789]

The Balance Mod isn't balance. HiGPS doesn't understand what balance is. Instead of actually fixing the problems that weapons already have, he opts for rebuilding the game from the ground up, introducing even more problems, and *point blank fucking with stock weapons.* That is *never* something you should do under any circumstances, especially because HiGPS doesn't even use his reworked stock weapons to balance the unlocks around. I am fully aware that the Pyro was given his airblast after the game had already come out, but if you're going to bring that up, allow me to also mention the fact that Engineer was given the ability to pick up his buildings *and* lower metal costs for teleporter construction.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

@@seemo5789 I am of the opinion that the core of the classes needs improvements(Heavy counterstrike like movement passive called Rushing Slav, Scout gettting the old PBPP stat as a crouch when falling to negate damage class ability, medic dealing burst healing by default on ALL his primaries and melees) as well as stock items having SOME stats over the unofficial upside of "the upside is no downsides of the unlocks" except the stock medigun which should change to have the stock be as good as stock medigun.

[@mildlypolite8405]

I think HiGPS was going for something that offers a more unique and powerful playstyle for everything. Such as for example changing the bone saw to do bleed. Or the neon for pyro giving a short period of mini-crits on kill. While it is not exactly a ideal way to go with balancing I don't think he ever intended to base things purely on standard tf2 but on valves method of balancing and what he likes. As he said, unless I'm mistaken, he is more in favor of buffing things rather than nerfing something to make it viable, fair, and fun to use / fight against. Doesn't mean there are not pretty questionable changes and weapons that outclass others of course.

[@Fin0fLenster]

@@seemo5789 I fundamentally disagree that stock weapons should be off limits. There are numerous cases in which stock options don't really have much place and if someone is going to make a balance mod that not everyone is going to play anyways then why would stock be off limits? Why resign Heavy's shotgun for instance to permanent irrelevance unless you want to heavily nerf competing options so that they also have no real use. And then you end up with Heavy being the only class in the game with no real secondary for the sake of internal class balance at the sacrifice of broader balance. Why this arbitrary limitation?

[@seemo5789]

@@Fin0fLenster Put it this way; if I make a change to the stock Scattergun, that change then applies to every other Scout primary. If I make a change to the stock Shotgun, that change applies to the Soldier, Pyro, and Heavy secondaries, as well as the Engineer primaries. You cannot change stock weaponry in an attempt to make the game "more balanced." The problem with how weapons are balanced cannot be changed by tampering with stock, especially if you're then just going to completely redo the entire weapon anyway. The problem is the already-existing stats of the weapon itself, a problem that can only be remedied by changing those stats. Look at some notoriously bad weapons like the Ullapool Caber. Its main problems are in its inability to one-shot light classes, something it should be able to do on paper but rarely does in practice, the fact that it requires you to go back to spawn just to use it again after one melee hit, and not possessing a taunt kill. This is one case of an easy fix; remove the damage ramp-up on the explosion and just make it normally deal the ramp-up's maximum of 88, adjust its hitbox so said explosion actually connects reliably, give it either a passive regeneration like the Razorback or allow it to regenerate when you collect an ammo pack, and make it do what the Equalizer and Escape Plan do for their taunt kills. Now the Ullapool Caber is actually reliable to use, complete with zero stock tampering whatsoever.

[@DrKat]

The mannmelter feels awkward to shoot, since the projectile is a strange shape

[@cursedheavy8860]

he really did just forget about the phlog tho

[@nihili4196]

As if anyone was using manmelter with phlog. Other than giving ability to extinguish teammates it gives no benefit over any other secondary. Scorcheshot works better as it helps build up mmph meter. Also, phlog encourages loner, solo type Pyros. It doesn't exactly work with weapon that encourages staying with team, as well as depends on enemy pyro to work. I know it was intended to work as combo.... But it doesn't

[@Languste]

There is no way you didn't mention the Phlogistinator a SINGLE time! This weapon is meant to be used with it, it is even from the same item set. And that makes the extinguishing mechanic valuable. But I agree, not really much reason to use it unless you use the Phlog as primary. I liked your ideas for balancing the weapon!

[@ZestyJesus]

That's a fair point- but playing with the phlog is REALLY slow when you don't have a secondary that can deal a lot of ranged damage. The manmelter can get off decent damage (sometimes), but in comparison to something like the scorch shot, it's just not the optimal secondary to use with the phlog to charge mmmph. Otherwise, you still spend most of your time running at people with mouse-1 held down hoping to get enough damage out.

[@gizzardlicka]

I also like using it with the Dragon's Fury since airblasting to extinguish teammates kills your rate of fire. Dragon's Fury also only gets 8 airblasts before running out of ammo.

[@EjBizz]

Using it with Backburner would be cool, since Backburner has that airblast penalty.

[@stanekx5970]

@@gizzardlicka me too bro :D

[@ludwigiapilosa508]

I have no trouble building oomph with the Manmelter vs the scorch shot. It takes some getting used to the faster projectile speed but once you do it's great.

[@pulsekinesis]

Just like everyone is saying in the comments: it's a weapon that goes in tandem with the phlog. The Manmelter only needs a few tweaks to make it decent. Specifically a slightly faster reload time, better visual indicators (both particles and animations), and a slightly stronger damage buff. It would make the manmelter a solid sidegrade while still keeping its original design intention (being a secondary weapon for the phlog).

[@ludwigiapilosa508]

It's already better than the scorch if there's a pyro on the other team. One of the most underrated weapons in the game.

[@z3r070000]

Its also good with the back burner. allowing to save ammo for airblast, and they are both self reliant on their critz from each other.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@ludwigiapilosa508 Phlog pyros use the scorch shot wrong anyways. It's meant to be used as a CC and sticky bomb removal sidearm, but phlog pyros use it as an easy ooomph! builder, not realizing that they could deal more damage with the regular flaregun if they just knew how to aim.

[@darthgiorgi4990]

Faster reload (which translates to rate of fire) would be great. Alt fire pairs well with Phlog, but unfortinately there is something better for that.

[@alexace2647]

Honestly I enjoy pairing the mannmelter with any flamethrower that has an increased airblast cost. It allows me to dedicate the airblasts to reflections and not worry about potentially wasting ammo extinguishing a teammate that could very easily be set on fire in the very next instant. Mannmelter + Back Burner = crit fiend!

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

I would absolutely do that with the dragon's fury if it wasn't for the fact that I use the scorch shot for crowd control, sticky removal, and maximizing damage output.

[@Zakumei]

Q&A: Would you rather: have a drinking contest with Demoman, first under the table or to 'lose his liqior' loses. hand-to-hand sparring with the Soldier? First to 3 pins or a TKO wins

[@bajscast]

Soldier I'd lose both but I'd get permanent liver damage from the demo drinking battle

[@Zakumei]

@@bajscast "Aye Fair 'nuff"

[@sirshitassingtoniii9944]

Soldier. I’d rather have my hands broken rather than get permanent liver damage

[@Zakumei]

@@sirshitassingtoniii9944 you're gonna take the chance that he doesnt just snap your neck in the first 2 seconds over the chance that you get so blackout piss drunk you knock out without actually dying?

[@eh2587]

Yeah but what if im the heavy? Then its a obvious chocie

[@endgameExecutor]

Honestly I think you hit the nail on the head with the cleaning buff.

[@Aarmastah]

Go to Google and type in "Ho Chi Minh Manmelter Incident" and you will see what I mean

[@iactuallywanttofuckingdier6601]

But What if you could also extinguish enemies

[@aaronking2020]

That's either a horrible idea or a genius one.

[@iwiffitthitotonacc4673]

Make it capable of extinguishing teammates from much father away than any airblast, and make the fire sucking animation a small flaming ball going inside the barrel rather than the giant fire animation. When having crit activated, make the projectile do afterburn for double as long. Would two pretty small buffs do it? Afterburn can be stopped by picking up health after all.

[@stanekx5970]

I don't agree with the second idea but the First one is on point and I think it would be The think that this weapon needs

[@stanekx5970]

Also it could be made as A frendly weapon as it could extinguis enemy from normal distanse and still get crits. This would make Space for many more combos

[@caguioajargozle5393]

Scout: I am so dead

[@lukamtc9188]

dealing with afterburn is already a pain, 20 seconds of being lit on fire isn't fun.

[@JagEterCoola]

How about; Extinguishes all nearby teammates (600 hammer units, let's say) +45 Switch-To Speed +75% Switch-Off speed (You'll see why on the next one) On a crit, the ignited player COUNTS as being on fire for twice as long, but afterburn duration and damage remains unchanged If you ask why, consider this: What does the Axtinguisher do? It takes the effective time remaining of your afterburn, multiplies it by your damage per tick (4), adds it to the base damage of the Axtinguisher (44), and makes it minicrit. Which means, if you shoot someone with a normal flare (noncrit); They take 30 Base damage, then they burn for 60 Damage over 7.5 Seconds (Two ticks of 4 per second) Switch to the Axtinguisher (enough time for 2 ticks by the time you hit; -8 Damage) And hit them. 30 seperate damage from the flare (counts as bullet damage if you care) 44(base hit) +52 (afterburn) minicrit (128 damage, +8 afterburn already inflicted, 136.) With the duration being EFFECTIVELY DOUBLED what happens is that your minicrit deals not 128+8 damage, but rather 207+8, allowing you to FINALLY one-shot soldiers with the flare combo and FINALLY, you're allowed to full combo heavies. (Puff+Blast with degreaser for ez 10 damage + CC, switch to guaranteed crit manmelter for a clean 90 damage, and hit them with a 207 damage Axtinguisher, a 3-step combo that finally allows pyro to kill heavies without having to rely on the panic attack) An ALTERNATIVE that's MORE ANNOYING but MORE TRANSPARENT would be; On crit, ignited players take minicrit afterburn. (158 damage Is not nearly as impressive though) And finally, what I personally believe would be best; On crit-charged hit, ignited player takes afterburn crits for 2 seconds, then the afterburn duration continues as normal. (Total damage: 90 Initial crit, 48 Crit afterburn, 44 normal afterburn.) Potential balance issue: Total damage of 182, of which 138 happens very quickly. However; Any class being healed by a level 1 dispenser would survive the damage. This DOES combo quite strongly with the axtinguisher though as it's 92 Afterburn damage, adding up to 181 damage by itself with the axtinguisher. But again, rewarding pyro for literally comboing all 3 weapons and getting up in your face without dying I think Is fine. (Puff with degreaser, ~15 damage, airblast, manmelter stored crit 90 damage, due to faster switch-off there's a chance that the target doesn't take a tick of fire damage, allowing you to fully combo axtinguisher for 181, doing a total of 286 damage)

[@shivernaut9884]

imagine calling the learned skill of flare punching "jank" the disrespect towards pyro tech will never end YwY anyways you have to remember the backburner, dragons fury, and phlog have limited or no airblast capability so if the ability to extinguish teammates is important in that specific match the manmelter comes on. overall though I would agree with a small buff. i'd go with 1. removes all debuffs (that was a fun suggestion) 2. grants 2 crits per extinguish instead of 1 (simple boost to it's up time when using it well) 3. a boost in damage and fire rate like they've done on the balance mod server (making it a more valid weapon outside of it's niche)

[@fourscarlet7581]

I only really use it when that one Phlog/Backburner pyro starts pissing off my team. I understand how annoying the Backburner can be as well when the enemy Pyro always seems to always be behind you more than the 3 enemy Spy's. No matter how much you Spy check, he will be there as soon as you turn your back. It even happens to me somehow, even though I main Backburner Pyro.

[@cuckhands]

0:49 That intro alone was something to like the video for-- such great content.

[@kazukidanton3102]

I only see few people use "The Manmelter" just to cover the debuff from the Phlogistinator and can charge the meter from the distant too. But mostly they would rather go scorch shot for easy charge.

[@mateuszmarciniak2828]

And those I call Phlog Trash. (apart from MvM, I pair Phlog with Manmelter. I care for my team.)

[@Fin0fLenster]

Personally I was thinking about the Backburner.

[@kazukidanton3102]

Cool, I really love to know more valuable ways to use it.

[@DUCKDUDE4100]

I love the idea of making the manmelter a general purpose debuff remover, it seriously needs a buff and I think this'd be a great way to do it as I think it'd have the welcome side effect of making pyro more viable in competitive sixes and would allow for the unbanning of certain items such as mad milk as it would make them more balanced.

[@ReddestRosa]

You’re growing quick man, 35k already!

[@RandomJD]

Well well. The algorithm worked and I'm watching this cool dude. Great work m8. Awesome video

[@niko_8208]

I'm gonna be honest I've been playing tf2 since the end of 2013 and I never knew that the mannmelter had a air sucking animation.

[@jum3628]

Q&A: Do you like toast? I really need to know this urgent information.

[@awabfarass9054]

Maybe

[@memuskhan9976]

Yeah

[@modywaves]

I see you are with the science team

[@GOOSE-jd4ox]

Yes, that's a really nice thing to have in breakfast aspecially with butter or cheese.

[@TheNumber86]

No comment. Question way too political.

[@TalleyBellum]

I think a cool thing for showing the shot cool down for the man melter would be a "Overheat" animation. Also I think the idea of the man melter was to pair it with the Phlog because it can't extinguish but the melter can. Would be interesting if the Man melter could use the alt fire as a weaker air blast this giving it more utility purposes

[@Internet_No_Body]

The manmelter inflicts the potential fire damage they would take against burning players,extintinquishing them and giving the pyro his crits

[@demoniac4821]

Manmelter needs one thing - Pyro that can aim.

[@MasterCookies]

Why would you aim with Manmelter, if you can aim with flare gun

[@turi6233]

Like a pyro main, i don't like aim

[@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853]

@@MasterCookies or with a Scorch Shot. *Angry mob noises*

[@mateuszmarciniak2828]

@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 Scorch Shots don't aim

[@thatguybrody4819]

@@mateuszmarciniak2828 it actually pays to aim with the scorch because of the bounce mechanic.

[@BotherRed]

It definitely needs a buff. That fact is known. I love the look and the over all idea of it, but it's just too weak and clunky with how little feed back it gives the user

[@drivanradosivic1357]

for the reload, a twist of the knob could work. as for upsides what could work?

[@parkthata3208]

I can’t believe you brought back the Kitchen gun meme 😂

[@ryanjones2509]

That was the best description of the scorch shot

[@RunnerRunnerRun]

sometimes i can't believe y'all are only at 30k. That just makes me glad I got in early. You're a huge inspiration too, I'm planning to start making KZbin videos as well once I get moved into my new apartment! I already made a demo video if you wanna see it!

[@asmodeustheclown3135]

Just let the damn thing airblast on a 30 second delay. Keep the “crits upon removal of afterburn” but let it reflect and push too.

[@ThaStavo]

30 seconds?? Once per team fight?

[@aaronking2020]

10 secs or less man. 30 seconds is a lot in a fast paced team shooter.

[@temkin9298]

Better just make it so that it can extinguish enemies as well with a switch buff both ways so if you want to you can cancel your after burn damage for a crit that will arrive instantly. Meta for the weapon would be light up an enemy get the crit after enough damage is dealt and shoot it to deal more damage on demand. For reference after burn deals 54 a crit could deal 74. Plus if you were switching to primary to melee you could switch faster(minus axetinguisher).

[@Reaper3715.]

An angry phlog pyro would like to aquire information of your wherabouts.

[@Mantafirefly]

The only reason it extinguishes is because the phlog doesn't. It doesn't seem to be thought through more than that.

[@Zakumei]

Q&A: What made you want to start making TF2 KZbin content, and what continues to motivate you to present-day? how has this motivation fared during quarantine?

[@BlazingShadowSword]

The only thing I can say is that you seem to have forgotten the whole purpose of the Manmelter is to be paired with the flamethrower which has no airblast, the one and only Phlog. It was purpose built to make up for the Phlog's lack of an airblast so you could still support your team while running around farting crit flames into the enemy team. I agree, the Manmelter needs a buff of some sort. But I think it needs to have it's partner in crime balanced with it, a nerf in how much damage it takes to get mmph. As it stands, there is no reason to use the Manmelter with even the Phlog, so if the Phlog got a mighty nerf to the speed of which the Scorch Shot gave it mmph I think the Manmelter would be given it's Valve-given duty back, to support the Phlog and return the speed that mmph charges.

[@InfamousInvictis]

Also another thing to consider with the manmelter is that with pyros being able to gain 20 health on extinguishing teammates, there is even less incentive to use the manmelter. I'm better off repping a better flare-gun and still receive an actual REWARD for airblasting teammates.

[@fudgerounds91]

Maybe the ready state could be with the team colored tube inside the body of the weapon, it pops up when it fires, and the pyro reloads by slapping it back down.

[@AngelOfPraxia]

For the Q&A: I'm a brand new player to TF2, and I'd love to eventually be as into the game as some other folks are. What are some personal recommendations, tips, and tricks you could give for a spankin' new player? (Heavy tips preferred, if possible!) I've quickly become a huge fan of your channel since I subscribed last week, and you're the reason I've got an interest in TF2! Can't wait to see you grow further!

[@whammeister3002]

welcome to the greatest game of all time

[@unbanquackityishot327]

check out for spies always they will go for you always

[@hdog9046]

If you have a healing consumable equipped, and you aren't in danger, eat it before picking up health packs. Also, any health pack fully recharges your consumable, so use small packs if you just need a recharge.

[@navadax4541]

A lot is always happening at once. Observe other players, either on KZbin or in game and try to see what they do in certain situations. It will take a while before you can process a lot of stuff at once.

[@DlolFace]

im glad i found your channel, cuz i somehow like TF2 again

[@cooki1875]

this video is not even a year old and you already have double the amount of subs you had in that video! congrats man

[@D0NU75]

1 - It needs another projectile model, it needs one. 2 - It was thought for the Phlo, but it should be rebalanced as a standalone weapon. 3 - would make it so it uses charges (20), regular shots costs 2 and "charged" shots (holding m1) cost 10 4 - Charged shots mini-crit, and keep it almost as it is balance-wise 5 - extinguishing teammates fully restores charges 6 - bonus, pyro explodes in flames on death if he had extinguished at least 5 team mates, burning enemies in a radious.

[@whiz8569]

Question: That Spy ain't one of us!

[@loganfury7433]

*That spy ain’t one of us?

[@whiz8569]

One of us, that spy ain't.

[@goofytycooner5519]

When my wife’s bf lets me crit with the manmelter

[@genralie3264]

KZbin said "hey watch this channel" then I said ok and now I love it very underrated

[@PretzelsWithSalt]

What is your thoughts about HiGPS' "Balance Mod"? And also congrats for 30 000 subs

[@freshtoast9578]

Question: do you think matchmaking should be scrapped so we can go back to the pubs system and make community servers more visible? i atleast hope that so one day all the community servers arent just allcrits 100x 24/7 randomizer hightower

[@SerHoratio]

Casual is fucking lit tho

[@misscookiesncrime]

Yeah, it’s lit af to encounter a cheater every game and have no way to reliably keep them out via admin moderation, as well as playing the same few maps over and over again.

[@jackhudner3804]

@@magi_stricide No there aren't, not commonly and not running any good maps. The only map you can consistently get running unmodified is 2fort, and those have a 75% if having rtd enabled.

[@freshtoast9578]

@@magi_stricide the problem is the five of them that exist are always full and noone are making more of them

[@jackhudner3804]

@@magi_stricide Do they have Aus/NZ servers?

[@thermalthruster]

For me it always looked strong but I never really had an incentive to change it over the flare gun, I think it goes down to, why depend on an scenario that another player has to create, instead of an scenario *I can create*

[@datonedood3791]

the manmelter has two uses; phlog because, well, its phlog, but the more notable use is with the dragons breath. the repressurization rate supposedly "kills" the dragon's breath, but with the manmelter makes up for it with no extinguish cooldown. but the breath still sucks when the enemy has two or more explosive classes, sooo.

[@sans8758]

Honestly to give it (in my opinion) way better synergy with the phlog and have just a better use overall, it should have a “capture” mechanic. Almost like the gravity gun in hl2 you could essentially grab projectiles one at a time and fling them back. Now I know a lot of people would say that this would not be super helpful with the other flamethrowers as you can just reflect them. Well sometimes you just don’t have your rocket, pipe, or other projectile to reflect. So this weapon could be used to store damage to fling at the other team who is one; outside of your range, two; doesn’t have a soldier or demo around to reflect, and finally three; give a big advantage to pyros who work towards keeping their team safe from projectiles while helping themself if they switch to a flank play style when on the offensive

[@bmn2362]

i have litterly never been killed by a man Melter before

[@akumamatata3408]

Quick Little Question : What class do you think needs some new weapons to their arsenal, and why so?

[@HellecticMojo]

how long have heavy mains been still asking for their update?

[@kimgkomg]

Your mother

[@eh2587]

@@kimgkomg your mother

[@poothathere4011]

I think the first idea would be just perfect and would fit greatly into the supportive pyro playstyle

[@samdaman2939]

for the man melter make it so a sucessful shot makes it instant reload.

[@nesspurr6931]

Here’s a question for you (not sure if this will qualify for the Q&A, but here I go) I’m about to start college in a couple days, any advice for a new freshman?

[@heartfelix9026]

the manmelter was designed primarily to -violate the geneva convention- be using in conjuction with the phlogistinator, which does not have an airblast its also useful for not wasting ammo on your main flamer for extinguishing teamates to save it for reflecting and pushing

[@vinnyandlin8510]

The Man Melter complements the Dragon's Fury's limited airblast really nicely and is good for setting the enemy on fire to finish off with the Dragon's Fury

[@yeahmansoul]

I really like your all debuffs removing idea 👍

[@viini3370]

lawn mowing video when zesty? gratz on 30k

[@rexmayshark6212]

i think that if instead of pressing right click and extinguishing teammates close to you, you can send out a beam that travels fairly quickly that does a little bit more dmg than the normal m1, but also extinguishes teammates if it touches them (the hitbox for if the beam removed fire would be very generous).

[@soft8oiled]

If it was able to extinguish enemies and then get charges I might be able to see a niche crowd gathering around it but it would need to be able to to it from further away than the distance you can just catch someone by running at them with your primary weapon.

[@glutenfree4551]

“You need an enemy pyro on the other team” Huo-Long Heater: “Am I a joke to you?”

[@matheusrios4223]

Manmelter was released with the phlogistinator that can't air blast, hence the extinguish allies > grant crit gimmic. but it is indeed shadowed by the other flare guns.

[@An_Average_Arsonist]

The whole point is the projectile speed, easier long distance shots, it has its niche value, and the after burn from it is enough to kill a light class. I like what it offers, its actually decent, but it suffers from the "this over that" design flaw, where the item isnt badly designed, but choosing it over the clearly better flare guns handicaps you.

[@copyright-hv6en]

did you ever think you would get this far on KZbin? Btw I love you videos and podcasts a lot, your humor helps me concentrate on my home work

[@barofsoap8098]

The cleaner stat could potentially make it so thst the Sydney sleeper, jarate, and mad milk are options in competitive, seeing as how, while a sttong debuff, it could potentially lead to granting an enemy pyro garunteed long rage crits. Introducing this risk/reward scenario sounds fun. It would, however, be a passive debuff to boston basher, wrap assasin, southern hospitality, etc.

[@zath6425]

Was using it for my Phlog contract so that I can put out flames. It's got an interesting and quick arc and I like it. Rarely ever had the stored crits ever be useful though.

[@koth_harvest_final]

You have an Asuka profile picture, and continually make Nichijou gags in your videos, so I'd like to ask what your favorite anime series are! Your content is great and I'm pretty sure I've bumped into you on Uncletopia a few times as well, which was cool.

[@cykogamer6369]

I'm new to your channel but my question is did you force yourself to use the manmelter? Or do you use it normally

[@fireringdeath]

How often do you play on the others' (lazy, dane, etc.) servers?

[@Dexio_o7]

I think in the beginning of the game there was an idea where scout would have a glove that caught a projectile, and throw it back. You could possibly use that for the manmelter, just that it can only hold one projectile, and the second you stop holding m2 it fires it, and also when you switch to your secondary. Downside to this would be the cap on its damage would stay as 90. Also add your idea of sucking up any affect on an enemy with it

[@MrPillz1]

Honestly the first thing that came to my head when it came to buffing it was the ability to give a crit when you reflect projectiles also. But these suggestions are actually really great.

[@klausvonzeit8686]

What song is that playing during the end credits?

[@Jaimas]

I used to use it alongside the Phlog to make up for the lack of an airblast but then I found the Detonator was better in most aspects. It definitely needs something. Personally I would have made it pierce, so it could light multiple targets. It would synergize with the Phlog that way and could be extremely powerful with the vacuum crits.

[@lue64]

i didn't even know how to extinguish teammates with this thing before this video

[@gojiratanaka77]

as everyone else pointed out, the Manmelter was made like it was part of an "item set", a set of weapons meant to work off of each other together, like the Shortstop/Mad Milk/Holy Mackerel or the Black Box/Battalion's Backup... but in the case of the Manmelter, it was made a lot more for the Phlog than anything else. Basically, its purpose is too specialized.

[@conan3081]

I think the manmelter is pretty good tbh. I like it when paired with the back burner so I can save the more expensive air blasts for reflecting and still have an extinguishing option. And the mildly faster projectile is actually pretty noticeable during more intense gameplay.

[@gumbothegreat4596]

I think it would probably be useful on the rare occasion the whole enemy class switches to pyro. This would allow you to use it like the frontier justice, racking up crits behind the lines, then spending them on the front lines.

[@memes_mann2778]

The manmelter is good for pairing with a flamethrower with a greater airblast cost because of the extinguishing feature and the guaranteed crits for teammates extinguished.

[@dorenzahid5244]

The one thing i can say for sure when playing with the manmelter as my main is that on maps like hightower you can actually terrorize snipers by being another sniper and its fun as hell. TBH the ability to remove all debufs (minus bleeding) would be really good but there are more ways to set the enemy on fire; huo long heater and the cow mangler. so yea, tbh the manmelter thrives off of its long distance capabilities even though it does a consistent 30 it is still really good at annoying the ever lonving shit out of classes who are trying to heal and cant hit you at a distance. Plus if you play a ranged pyro class loadout consisting of the backburner, manmelter and powerjack then you can be in and out with people and a hell of a lot of crits for assisting teamates;.

[@theguywhoasked2520]

I have a list of super duper important questions: 1. if your multiplying a question mark in biology, how long would it take to microwave an apple? 2. if your trick or treating on Christmas in July and tomorrow is Valentine's day, what mother day gift would you give to your boyfriend? 3. if theirs 24 hours in one day and the flavor of the sky is watermelon, how many people were born tomorrow? 4. you take your fish for a walk but you accidentally drop him on the ceiling, how young is your grandma?

[@demolisherman1763]

I like the cleaner idea but if it gets implemented then I’ll have to decide on the panic attack or man melter for my secondary