TF2: How Damage Resistances Work

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Zesty Jesus

Zesty Jesus

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@boxingcactus
@boxingcactus 4 жыл бұрын
"Flares deal bullet damage." My whole life has been a lie.
@Vaygon
@Vaygon 4 жыл бұрын
*brain explodes*
@swopiscus5836
@swopiscus5836 4 жыл бұрын
what damage would you think they did??
@drchickengie2403
@drchickengie2403 4 жыл бұрын
@@swopiscus5836 Um.. maybe Fire Damage? since they ignite you and are used by a PYRO
@DontStopMeGaLo
@DontStopMeGaLo 4 жыл бұрын
Arrows are also count as bullet damage lol
@Nitosa
@Nitosa 4 жыл бұрын
I think getting hit by a flare would deal ''bullet damage'', because it's a metal bullet shaped object flying at high speeds towards somebody making it less fire en more physical damage.
@LARAUJO_0
@LARAUJO_0 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I just watched 9 minutes of Zesty explaining how to do basic multiplication
@ViciousVinnyD
@ViciousVinnyD Жыл бұрын
You can joke about it, but despite using it nearly every day, I still reliably manage to mix it all up. Math is hard.
@BartixShieldsmen
@BartixShieldsmen 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like that by the end of this series of knowledge we'll have a PHD in TF2 physics
@ducks7015
@ducks7015 4 жыл бұрын
Ive played tf2 since about 2014 and I still have to approach any match different.
@meep2k
@meep2k 4 жыл бұрын
meh, maybe a high school diploma if you're generous
@meep2k
@meep2k 4 жыл бұрын
@Sightless_Seeker sure, i'll take it
@Vaygon
@Vaygon 4 жыл бұрын
i would love if that helps searching for a job. LOL
@thenightmareyoutube8375
@thenightmareyoutube8375 4 жыл бұрын
End of knowldge? Theres still some hidden knowldge no one know
@Whom_
@Whom_ 4 жыл бұрын
- All damage vulnerability’s are on melee weapons. [Shows the buffalo steak] Ah yes, my favourite melee weapon. Meat
@PHoMi126
@PHoMi126 4 жыл бұрын
So u don't beat people with ur meat? Shame on u
@verbatos9498
@verbatos9498 4 жыл бұрын
*ham shank has entered the chat
@mibikchellaimibikchellous2238
@mibikchellaimibikchellous2238 4 жыл бұрын
*holy mackerel has entered the chat
@slysamuel5902
@slysamuel5902 4 жыл бұрын
I get the joke but to be fair, when you use it, you temporarily become a melee focused class.
@mateuszodrzywoek8658
@mateuszodrzywoek8658 4 жыл бұрын
all the demo shields, some other secondaries and other primaries
@snoopdogg3677
@snoopdogg3677 4 жыл бұрын
New southern hospitality: Sentry gun bullets causes enemies to bleed -124 max health on wearer
@davitdavid7165
@davitdavid7165 4 жыл бұрын
Thats about as annoying,abusable and risk reward as the kunai.
@captainenigma275
@captainenigma275 4 жыл бұрын
oh no
@perrysuth4807
@perrysuth4807 4 жыл бұрын
if it really was valve it'd only be -100 health loss
@cheaprobloxuncledanesrando2256
@cheaprobloxuncledanesrando2256 4 жыл бұрын
No random crits
@airplanemaniacgaming7877
@airplanemaniacgaming7877 4 жыл бұрын
@@cheaprobloxuncledanesrando2256 ah yes, that makes it not need the -100 health. in fact, that stat is a good enough reason to give them +125 max health!
@StickMaster500
@StickMaster500 4 жыл бұрын
17:39 Nobody's gonna talk about the cursed T Posing Homer Simpson Horseless Headless Horsemann showing off his dominance to everyone Also on the topic of balancing some weapons, to make the Southern Hospitality more useable and unique they should give it the Eureka Effect treatment by making it a more Dispenser focus weapon by halving the most when constructing and upgrading dispensers and have an increased healing range and damage resistance while being healed by the dispenser but you either have a blast damage vulnerability or less metal from pickups and dispensers.
@lilayaz9532
@lilayaz9532 4 жыл бұрын
i love spaghetti
@significantpepper5274
@significantpepper5274 4 жыл бұрын
I think the S. Hos is pretty balanced but just because it's so simple. You get bleed that does very little against spies thanks to the decreased debuffs when cloaking but you tale more damage from a class that you won't be near anyway.
@rusty_cheech9724
@rusty_cheech9724 4 жыл бұрын
I like this idea
@BIGBADAUD99999
@BIGBADAUD99999 4 жыл бұрын
I like that concept. It gives meaning to the weapon's name as "hospitality" rather than a bleeding effect that rarely gets useful even if it helps detect spies as the bleeding effect time is reduced by their cloak and that there's already a spy detector in a form of a zap gun.
@significantpepper5274
@significantpepper5274 4 жыл бұрын
@@BIGBADAUD99999 Yeah but they might aswell create a new weapon. I think it's better to keep the "Anti-Spy Wrench" idea. Maybe it has an alt fire where Engineer throws an liquid on the ground that creates a cloud that will apply bleed to enemies that walk into it, Gas Passer style, with the drawback that your sentries receive 15% extra damage from explosives and the liquid has an long cooldown. Essentially, being better against one of your counters while being weaker to other counters.
@InkblotHyena
@InkblotHyena 4 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: _The Southern Hospitality STILL doesn't track Sentry Kills, like every other wrench does.. If its a bug, this needs to be fixed. If its not.. then Valve is a lot less competent than I'd hoped.._
@Fatsaver
@Fatsaver 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a bug tho. Valve just thought you would be smacking people more with a Wrench that was designed to do more melee damage. Stupid i know, but thats just mostly the truth.
@bamboocarver
@bamboocarver 4 жыл бұрын
compotent compotent competent smart intelligent tf2 word.
@dinonuggiesguy4847
@dinonuggiesguy4847 4 жыл бұрын
What's the point of tracking sentry kill?
@fluffybat5421
@fluffybat5421 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinonuggiesguy4847 so you can see how many dumb smucks walked into your sentry guns
@toomanyeyesjoe1438
@toomanyeyesjoe1438 4 жыл бұрын
I always just thought it was a glitch for me when it didn’t show anything
@ZestyJesus
@ZestyJesus 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't seem to matter how many times I watch my own videos before I release them, or have other people check for mistakes, I ALWAYS MISS SOMETHING- Yes, my mic quality is ass for the first 8 minutes, why? I was in the middle of moving while making this video, and had recorded in two different places: the empty closet in my old home, and the now full closet of my new home. 1) 1.01 should be 1.10 when talking about minicrits with the pain train 2) Random black frames come from artifacting in Premiere that I don't know how to fix. 3) I misinterpreted the "dual-type" damage on flare guns- the initial hit counts as fire AND bullet, not bullet, then afterburn. So the southern hospitality does take extra damage from the initial hit. But 20% of 30 is 6, so it's just 6 extra damage- assuming you actually hit him directly. 4) Weapons with passive damage vulnerabilities/resistances ignore crits and minicrits (meaning they don't increase or decrease damage against them). Weapons with vulnerabilities/resistances that are active when the weapon is active do not ignore crits and minicrits. I'm sure other crap will get pointed out that I STILL CAN'T SEE I PRIDE MYSELF ON IMPERFECTION
@Greaner
@Greaner 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@trench7599
@trench7599 4 жыл бұрын
wtf is going on with sound
@philiphockenbury6563
@philiphockenbury6563 4 жыл бұрын
For your midroll ab breaks. Just make sure to pack some insulin. mangakakalot.com/read-gp9fj158504837459
@olexoz1505
@olexoz1505 4 жыл бұрын
Chargin' Targe should have 40% explosive and fire resistance. Or you know what? Just give it a general 30% damage resistance.
@meep2k
@meep2k 4 жыл бұрын
hey zesty does your sponsor make perscription blue light lenses
@nesspurr6931
@nesspurr6931 4 жыл бұрын
Southern Hospitality, Engineer is a defense-based support class, what about if it improves the Dispenser is some way? Maybe it could slightly decrease its build cost or increase the heal rate while equipped (so you cant just build a dispenser in Spawn during your rollout and have it be a better dispenser for the rest of the game ala Eureka Effect and teleporter), or if that's a bit too powerful or broken, just increase the dispenser's heal range by a bit. Downside could be an slight vulnerability from all damage, so that way the drawback for increasing the survivability of your team is a decrease in your own survivability.
@Aldestructo
@Aldestructo 4 жыл бұрын
I think a problem is that the weapon concept itself doesn't relate to dispensers or buildings particularly other than being a wrench. When thinking about the southern hospitality's balancing it needs an overhaul, because there isn't any explicit reason to use it other than stat benefits, meaning it's just default but different. What it needs is a balance or mechanic that involves hitting their buildings or enemies that encourages people to use it for situations where it would be better than pulling out your meat shotting shotgun or pistol etc. Something that would really make people scared of approaching a southern hospitality engie.
@alphawolf6708
@alphawolf6708 4 жыл бұрын
I like the bleed effect to track down spies tbh. So how about a 30-60% damage reduction but in turn, 8 dmg per tick for 3-5 seconds while allowing dispensers to heal 20-30% faster
@eur0be4t3r
@eur0be4t3r 4 жыл бұрын
it's for spy checking tho
@Vaygon
@Vaygon 4 жыл бұрын
i like to use the souther hospitality to hit ppl with it. is fun
@MSCDonkeyKong
@MSCDonkeyKong 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aldestructo idea i just thought of on the spot (might go somewhere, might not): what if instead of the multipliers it has now, maybe hitting your buildings did some sort of effect within a certain radius of that building? maybe it pushes away enemies like airblast and/or inflicts bleed or something? maybe it also reflects projectiles within the radius too, for use against more classes than just spy? it would give the weapon thats already mostly picked for spychecking a more interesting way to counter spy, and maybe some 100 iq strats as well? i dont know what the drawbacks should be but i think this could potentially make for an interesting mechanic if its done properly and balanced well
@kartoshka1952
@kartoshka1952 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he’s talking into a pringles can
@ЈованЧабаркапа
@ЈованЧабаркапа 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't sound like Baen to me
@eddroasting3730
@eddroasting3730 4 жыл бұрын
He's talking to the last pringle in the can about damage resists in tf2
@evieinfinite
@evieinfinite 4 жыл бұрын
the pringles can adds damage resistance bro
@MiningwithPudding
@MiningwithPudding 4 жыл бұрын
*Bane voice* Yes, it's a Pringles can.
@sparky00777
@sparky00777 4 жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate the Ab break, man. Miruko is a blessing.
@catrielmarignaclionti4518
@catrielmarignaclionti4518 4 жыл бұрын
another man liking buff wamen
@sparky00777
@sparky00777 4 жыл бұрын
@@catrielmarignaclionti4518 This is the Way.
@vivelespatat2670
@vivelespatat2670 3 жыл бұрын
No horny here, we need to take back Jerusalem
@trollking6315
@trollking6315 3 жыл бұрын
Miruko is fine, Asuka is 14. Fake or not, one is a child.
@sparky00777
@sparky00777 3 жыл бұрын
@@trollking6315 Don't like Asuka anyway. Misato gang
@StarManMatt1
@StarManMatt1 4 жыл бұрын
Teacher of the year award goes to Zesty.
@bayangmagiliwgaming6104
@bayangmagiliwgaming6104 4 жыл бұрын
y es
@bestaround0
@bestaround0 4 жыл бұрын
Weapon: has a bad downside Zesty: health reduction
@ducks7015
@ducks7015 4 жыл бұрын
So, this is definetly not new for me. BUT im so glad somebody is still making this type of content. I hope this finds at least one new player and gets them to keep trying in the game because god I forgotten how much overload this game has
@significantpepper5274
@significantpepper5274 4 жыл бұрын
Heh, i downloaded TF2 3 weeks ago, so mission complete i guess.
@ducks7015
@ducks7015 4 жыл бұрын
@@significantpepper5274 legit im glad people are still downloading tf2 for the first time. Also good luck man, shits fun but the team fights can get so messy its hard to know whos shooting what
@kitcatfootisreal
@kitcatfootisreal 3 жыл бұрын
I like how on the chalk board (6:50) heavy tried to write/say pootis but didn't time it correctly and made him re do the voice command. Great detail
@Boomeyoo
@Boomeyoo 4 жыл бұрын
Mid-roll ab break? Yeah this guy is cultured af, subbed.
@HaydenTheHistorian
@HaydenTheHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet Bionicles in the background
@syweb2
@syweb2 3 жыл бұрын
Man's got a sick collection.
@WooHooLadttv
@WooHooLadttv 3 жыл бұрын
For Warrior's Spirit I think swapping the damage vulnerability for something like "consecutive swings deal less damage" could be cool, a good finisher and two hitter for 150/125 classes, but not a lawnmower like the KGB. Maybe first it is 85 then 65 then 45 or something like that. To avoid it being a straight upgrade though, maybe make it so the claws need a good amount of time to recharge. I think it would give it an interesting niche!
@tonyshum5569
@tonyshum5569 3 жыл бұрын
man i keep finding you in places i really don't expect.
@MalevolentMantis
@MalevolentMantis 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Bushwacka's the only other weapon where it really makes sense to have damage vulnerability considering it's entire purpose is to be an incredibly powerful close range combo weapon where you get a quick kill off of someone threatening you before backing away
@Nightflyermike
@Nightflyermike 4 жыл бұрын
9:27 ok that joke legitimately got me in the first half. 10/10 well written joke
@sleepyheaddaehypeels1351
@sleepyheaddaehypeels1351 4 жыл бұрын
I never feel like I need this information going in, but it never fails to dissapoint. Always looking forward to each video, this one was fantastic just like the rest~
@MiningwithPudding
@MiningwithPudding 4 жыл бұрын
I want Heavy to get a tower shield that gives him resistance to everything and extends his hitbox, allowing him to more effectively act as a wall. It goes into the primary slot.
@vivelespatat2670
@vivelespatat2670 3 жыл бұрын
Big Joey video on the Big Guy
@igjozz5646
@igjozz5646 3 жыл бұрын
Fat scouts love you
@spymemes7389
@spymemes7389 4 жыл бұрын
Melee weapons *Zesty includes the steak* BEaT THE ENEMy WITH YOuR MEAT
@he3004
@he3004 4 жыл бұрын
"Beat the meat with your enemy"
@sirshitassingtoniii9944
@sirshitassingtoniii9944 4 жыл бұрын
beat the meat with your enemy!!! Jesus that sounds wrong as hell 🤣 Edit: apologies to the other person who said this. I didn’t notice lol
@sammccoy3946
@sammccoy3946 4 жыл бұрын
Dude thats just the ham shank
@duckfilms3662
@duckfilms3662 3 жыл бұрын
MY MEAT BEATS YOU!
@Heyheyhey0475
@Heyheyhey0475 4 жыл бұрын
Finally. My 6th grade math knowledge put to use
@wuzzkinda2504
@wuzzkinda2504 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect to see that many bionicles in the bookshelf behind you, man of culture...
@uhh12131
@uhh12131 4 жыл бұрын
I literally havent EVER been using the powerjack because i thought the vounerability is always applied, not only when active. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
@kyechimera
@kyechimera 4 жыл бұрын
Only 4 minutes in and THANK GOD you're actually using the proper math for these calculations. Way too many videos and comments/talk threads where people would calculate by (HP) x (1 + [res]).
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 3 жыл бұрын
9:44 Ah, a man of culture. Has a whole collection of Bonkles.
@ZackP504
@ZackP504 4 жыл бұрын
Quite possibly the best ad I've seen. My brain instantly goes to skip but once I see cute anime girls, abs, and underboob I can't skip. Also, my Dad has been looking into blue light filtering glasses but I'm not sure if I can work up the nerve to show him that segment. Love ya Zesty.
@thowhy4964
@thowhy4964 4 жыл бұрын
I was only 20 seconds into the video when I read this. I was thinking “what the fuck...? Is this some kind of copypasta?” Then I saw the ad.
@matchanavi
@matchanavi 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, you could just show him the website
@thegames4565
@thegames4565 4 жыл бұрын
@@thowhy4964 Exact fucking same lol
@madcat789
@madcat789 3 жыл бұрын
Idea for the Southern Hospitality: 5 Second Bleed Effect +20% Faster melee speed +15% Damage to enemy buildings -15% Build Speed -20% Holster Speed _Item Taunt: The Engineer pours a glass of Ice Tea and has a nice, good drink._
@Woodland_Adventures
@Woodland_Adventures 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the postal pummuler on pyro. So, I've noticed about near the end of the video that zesty doesn't really seem to notice the difference between "on wearer" and "when active". Examples: Powerjack: the stats say "on wearer" for the damage vulnerability. That means no matter if you have the weapon out or not, if it is in your equipped set, the damage vulnerability it applied at all times. Fists of steel: it's two most important stats (in the current situation of bots), "-40% damage from ranged sources" and "+100% damage from melee sources" include the words "When active" at the end of each stat. This means that both the debuff and buff are only applied when the user is holding the weapon out. It also has the stats "-40% maximum overheal" and "-40% health from healers". Theses two stats are followed by the term "On wearer". Like the Powerjack, this means that these two effects are _always_ active, unlike the other two stats which are *only active when the weapon is being used*
@schino
@schino 4 жыл бұрын
"It's not additive, it's multiplicative, now i know this sounds confusing but-" actually no, that's like, normal. but thanks for the video and spreadsheet nevertheless.
@Tuskor130
@Tuskor130 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Chargin' Targe having absolutely nothing unique to bring to the table aside the highest resistances makes it underwhelming. Sure, it beats out the Tide Turner in resistances, having regular crits, and not having charges stopped by damage, but the Tide Turner also gives 100% control over your turn radius, and most ofyour charge meter refreshes on a melee kill. Sure, the Splendid Screen has slightly lower resistances, but it also replenishes charge meter faster and does *seventy percent* more bash damage. All the Targe has is 30% more burn resistance and 10% more blast resistance compared to the Screen. And while it blows the Tide Turner out of the water in essentially every aspect of what a shield does, the Turner still gives you full turn radius control. And the Turner also gives 75% charge meter on a melee kill *alongside* perfect turn radius control, so the downsides of mini-crits, the lowest resistances, and the Baby-Face Blaster-like meter depleter is almost made up for with those heavily powerful bonuses At some point I think I remember only the Targe snuffing out afterburn when charging, but all shields do this now. The Targe has nothing to differentiate itself from the other shields aside having the highest resistances to blast damage and especially fire damage. Which is ironic considering the Screen is made of metal and is worse at blocking fire than a shield made of wood, but I digress. The Targe needs something to set itself apart from the other shields. Maybe give it some type of Mantreads effect where it reduces the effectiveness of pushback from things like blast damage or airblasts? That would play into it's colossal fire resist and initially unique afterburn-snuff-on-charge effect of being Demoknight's answer to Pyro
@mememaria4073
@mememaria4073 4 жыл бұрын
9:50 that shelf tho, christ i feel ancient looking at it more and more and knowing i recognize each and every one
@eh2587
@eh2587 4 жыл бұрын
19:45 now you see, high level demos and sollys know how to aim projectiles and know how to not get rushed down to death by scout's because it's the scout's job to deal with them meaning that they will get experience on how to fight a scout as the demo/soldier. Although yeah a weapon should both be punishing to not be used with skill and reward it and at the same time be able to reward the low and high level players
@kaki_horse
@kaki_horse 4 жыл бұрын
“They’re affordable” *shows a 40 dollar pair of glasses
@Auriee_
@Auriee_ 4 жыл бұрын
bruv glasses ain't cheap
@kaki_horse
@kaki_horse 4 жыл бұрын
@@Auriee_ cap I can find a pair at a gas station for 5 bucks
@koru8233
@koru8233 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaki_horse Those are sunglasses you're talking about, you're not gonna get quality from a gas station.
@soitscitrus25
@soitscitrus25 3 жыл бұрын
Me: Oh great! Zesty is gonna talk about the Natasha and Brass beast! Zesty: *Makes a Good video but forgets about Brass Beast and Natasha.* Me: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@NightinGery
@NightinGery 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, the effort clearly shows from the quality! Loved the chalkboard scribbles :DD
@warmonger-zc2sf
@warmonger-zc2sf Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, my favorite melee weapon, STEAK.
@mibikchellaimibikchellous2238
@mibikchellaimibikchellous2238 4 жыл бұрын
Southern Hospitality + Bleeds on hit + Bleed damage ignores Cloak + Does gradual damage to Sappers once hitting Sapper on Teammates Buildings (Like bleed, but Sappers don't bleed) - No random Crits (karma?) - 15% Bullet Vulnerability While Deployed - Swinging continuously Slows Firing rate by up to 20% (Use your Shotgun Mate) (I feel Like I have been trying to say this in the rare conversation about southern Hospitality every time)
@videakias3000
@videakias3000 4 жыл бұрын
the problem with the buffalo steak sandvich is not the damage vulnerability,it is the fact that it locks you from using your primary weapon. as about the southern hospitality I believe that this weapon should be completely re-worked. maybe it could function like that: pros: faster repair rate for your buildings cons: slower swing speed and slower building rate. with that way it will be a reverse
@madcat789
@madcat789 3 жыл бұрын
Alex "The Cum" Jones made me fall out of my chair with laughter.
@ykFreeman
@ykFreeman 4 жыл бұрын
8:58 Wait. It should be x1.10. Or am I crazy?
@cloudoaldo2461
@cloudoaldo2461 3 жыл бұрын
nah you are right. 1.01 would be 1%
@vanilla8956
@vanilla8956 4 жыл бұрын
18:34 Wait what? Are you telling me everytime I've switched to fire resistance and ubered someone with the vaccinator because there was a flare heading towards them, or even just kept it on fire resistance and ubered because they were already on fire, they took the full 90 damage? my god
@turi6233
@turi6233 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Xneocake
@Xneocake 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing scout get oneshotted by the grenade launcher gave me a dopamine rush
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 4 жыл бұрын
Still no idea why the shields don't give resistance against melee weapons. They're _shields,_ that's half of their point in existing! (The other half being protecting against arrows and such, which they _also_ don't protect against.)
@basselsabubgarcia9195
@basselsabubgarcia9195 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man. I learnded alot and am going to utilize your excell sheet. Really great backround music.
@shinobuoshino1052
@shinobuoshino1052 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you got a sponsor mate, really happy about it!
@gnach100111100
@gnach100111100 4 жыл бұрын
I've had this thought for a while, in the topic of the Southern Hospitality; that weapons with the Bleed effect, would greatly benefit from Bleeding being permanent; until healed by a medic (which would make it go away after, say, 3 seconds of being flashed) or reaching a health pack. I don't think any weapons would be broken as a result: -The Southern Hospitality Would be more useful (tho it'd still need a tweak). -The Tribalman's Shiv would finally have a use (in no random crits servers at least). -The Boston Basher would punish harder so maybe that would need tweaking. -The Wrapped Assasin would have a more defined goal. -The Flying Guillotine was a problem because of its damage in combo not because of Bleeding. This would make it so invisibility doesn't diminish its effect, which is often to track the Spy. Hell, it would even be great on Medic melee, since the Spies are often after and close to them, it's not 25% Ubber but it is certainly a dead enemy. Speaking of Medic: the minimum 3 (or so) second duration on being-healed targets, would make it so the healing they receive from their Medics would be reduced. I think it'd be neat.
@poyloos4834
@poyloos4834 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it took us this long to get a competent video on resistances in - depth. I'm the kind of wierdo who spends 20 minutes doing this kind of stuff in his head during a match just so that I can have info that is way more precise than it needs to be in practice, so I'm glad this is here to kind of check my math.
@Jessie_Helms
@Jessie_Helms 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one wondering about this. I’m working on a video about Heavy and it took like 2 hours to find out how much effective health a heavy with the Dalokohs bar and fists of steel would have AND how that effects his Quick-Fix overheal. I edited the wiki once I found out.
@enderguy06
@enderguy06 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the mid-roll ab break
@RandomJD
@RandomJD 4 жыл бұрын
I completely lost my mind when I saw the horseless headless as homer Simpson... Had to saw it again. Love it
@shardzard2365
@shardzard2365 4 жыл бұрын
Southern hospitality: Upside: ????? Downside: buildings take 10% more metal to build (maybe)
@samaeltheangel3434
@samaeltheangel3434 4 жыл бұрын
hey Zesty, just wanted to say I love your videos and you make such a good job. I would love to see a video where you talk about your favourite skins as a collector of them
@SableUnderscore
@SableUnderscore 3 жыл бұрын
I like hybrid knight, i only use the sheild for the resistances, but i have a sizable amount of clips abusing the damage resistances. Love the content -QuetzaCota
@des9517
@des9517 4 жыл бұрын
19:16 so here is the thing they tried having it be an alternative to stock as it does less melee demadge but thats countered by the bleed efect making it so its better then stock, either 1. reduce the swing speed(maybe someone only after hitting an enemy, spy) which will decress dps i terms of swinging at the enemy OR 2.1. it takes longer to go back to your other weapons(shotgun) so you have to risk using it to make people bleed making it a finishing tool 2.2 have it be pulled out slower, it isnt as bad as with other weapons since 90% of the time you willl have it out but it makes it into a defence tool as in you us it at the start of combat to make your enemy panik and to track them also its like am sorry for typos
@Soupurman
@Soupurman 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like that powerjack 25 health back on kill thing is more for when your escaping with low health and just find an unlucky spy or sniper to get a little health back
@speedypichu6833
@speedypichu6833 4 жыл бұрын
For me, I was working on math work when I found this in my notifications.
@theweaponstealr5917
@theweaponstealr5917 4 жыл бұрын
For the Southern Hospitality, I would either replace or add to the bleed with an increase in damage (Let's say, 15%) with a downside of a slower swing speed (15% as well). With the Demoman sword (I am not gonna try to spell it), it seems to me as a mix of a utility (the longer charge) and last resort (charge on kill) for when you are already basically dead. Reverting it would cause the hybridknights that primarily use a grenade launcher to have a permanent less health for more charge on a weapon they would rarely pull out. Those hybridknights would end up going back to stock for reliability, skullcutter for solid damage with an almost negated downside, or eyelander for being rewarded even more when they get that rare sword kill.
@dyno1200
@dyno1200 4 жыл бұрын
I used to use the candy cane back in the day and the +25% is so noticeable, every soldier and demo effectively had the direct hit or lochnload. Helped me learn how to dodge while fighting against them tho
@doomyboi
@doomyboi 4 жыл бұрын
You know, a thought occurs to me. The southern hospitality feels like it was intended as a spychecker wrench, the bleed being something that'd tag an invisible spy and keep him vulnerable. What if instead of a fire damage penalty and the bleed, the hospitality knocks spy disguises off but also makes spy decloaking harder to hear for the engineer?
@DesperateDirt
@DesperateDirt 4 жыл бұрын
the idea of it removing disguises is a cool idea, but I don’t know how that decloak thing could by applied to the client
@doomyboi
@doomyboi 4 жыл бұрын
​@@DesperateDirt I imagine probably the simplest way would be to just make new quieter versions of the spy decloak sound files and tell the client to use those instead of the normal ones if the player has the Hospitality equipped.
@DesperateDirt
@DesperateDirt 4 жыл бұрын
maybe in the same way as the old saharan spy set?
@doomyboi
@doomyboi 4 жыл бұрын
@@DesperateDirt Possibly, I don't really know how the system handled that particular effect but if it could do it for all other players based on what 1 player was wearing, it makes sense the system could make it work for individual players too
@modstin
@modstin 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing that Zesty would feature his Good Twin Jerma on a video
@Imirui
@Imirui 3 жыл бұрын
An idea I have to balance the SH is an increase in metal cost. It makes it harder to get to the max building levels, and when it gets up there, he still has options for dealing with classes that try to take them down.
@c0mpl3x1ty7
@c0mpl3x1ty7 4 жыл бұрын
19:48 *Pro demomen and soldiers with the direct hit who know how to airshot would like to know your location*
@actualmadscientist
@actualmadscientist 4 жыл бұрын
That mid video "Ab break" was brilliant.
@RubyBladeAwesome
@RubyBladeAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
Okay how about this for the Hospitality: it works kinda like a grappling hook. When you hit someone with it, they're stuck to you for a few seconds (blocking your field of vision, natch). This makes it easier to hit them again, although they'll become able to move freely again as soon as you swing but before your second swing connects. This would also make it pretty easy for you to switch to your primary quickly and blow out a couple of that pesky Spy's ribs - or, if they were trying to be fancy and get your own sentry to kill you, quick positioning means you could use them as a human shield to prevent an unfortunate workplace accident. As a downside, maybe give it slower swing speed, so enemies have some actual chance to get away if you're trying to kill them and it's a little more difficult to smack 'em in the first place, or increase incoming melee damage taken while wielding it? A Spy stuck to you could still butterknife you to death if you're not quick to act. It's a pretty rough idea but I think at least it's a little more tactically interesting than "urrrr it sharp" and I think it's a pretty fun twist on the name (welcome to Texas, bitch, you can't leave!).
@travisthompson5080
@travisthompson5080 2 жыл бұрын
19:15 If I were to rework the southern hospitality, I would do away with the fire vulnerability & the bleed on hit, instead having the upsides of inflicting bleeding to enemies (including cloaked & disguised spies) within range of your dispenser, as well as increased dispenser range, and the downsides of an increased metal cost for placing dispensers, slightly decreased dispenser health & no random critical hits.
@this...isabucket.6665
@this...isabucket.6665 4 жыл бұрын
As an expert in resistances (by that I mean someone who's spent more than 5 minutes to think about the matter) I felt like there were a few points you could have added as well: 1: Stacking resistances always makes both resistances less effective, for example chargin targe + vaccinator against a grenade pill, the vaccinator would only take the 70 damage and reduce it by 7 instead of the normal 10. 2: However, this next point counteracts the former as resistances reach higher values since due to how resistances work, effective health increases exponentially as the percentage tends to 100%. This is explained by how with 100% resistance, someone's health is infinite. If someone had 100 hp, adding 5% to 25% resistance (30%) would go from 133.3 hp to 143 hp, but adding 5% to 94% resistance (99%) would go from 1,666.7 hp to 10,000 hp. Ergo, large percentages of resistances are WAY more effective than smaller resistances. Sure, this effect is only noticeable with big resistances like fists of steel, battalion's backup and vaccinator uber, but it is still very significant.
@wallspoog3126
@wallspoog3126 4 жыл бұрын
The transition to the ad was amazing
@dedchannel5769
@dedchannel5769 3 жыл бұрын
Southern Hospitality: +35 max health +10 metal regen per second -50% max health pick up from packs and dispensers Weapon Desc: "This weapon could send someone to hospital"
@SandwichGamer107
@SandwichGamer107 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that you always sit in your room and think about a funny way to start off a video xd Love these intros
@johnr4182
@johnr4182 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great way to teach gamers about multiplying and dividing decimals
@CrazyBoris06
@CrazyBoris06 3 жыл бұрын
to me, the candy cane forces you to practice dodging explosives
@chom15
@chom15 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful editing almost thought this was a shounic video
@tijuu_
@tijuu_ 4 жыл бұрын
correction at 8:54 - 50 x 1.1 = 55, 50 x 1.01 would be 50.5, as multiplying something by 1.01 is equivalent to adding 1/100 to that number, which in this case is 0.05. hopefully this didn't sound snarky, i just wanted to help out a bit
@wevgre
@wevgre 4 жыл бұрын
the concept of the warior spirit is fat scout and its perfecly balance as a finisher for fat scout
@MrGlowstoneMan
@MrGlowstoneMan 4 жыл бұрын
the lack of information on the tf2 wiki after all these years is honestly... shocking. There is so much raw and interpreted information that I turn to the wiki for and it simply doesn't exist there. I end up digging through steam threads from 2014 and even then everyone is calling everyone else idiots.
@jackhudner3804
@jackhudner3804 4 жыл бұрын
You know what I think would make the Southern Hospitality more interesting? Its upside should be a cheaper repair cost on buildings (maybe a 4-to-1 or 5-to-1 health-to-metal ratio instead of the current 3-to-1) but a lower maximum repair amount per swing (maybe 15-20% less than the current 105/swing, meaning 89-84 health per hit). This would make the user much more metal efficient and significantly reduce the effects of random spam, but would hurt them greatly when trying to turtle and force them to relocate their buildings instead of tanking them. It might be a nice option for the more passive Engineers out there, and without the ability to turtle would be much less oppressive to fight than an Engineer running the stock wrench.
@gorko1579
@gorko1579 4 жыл бұрын
You made this topic very easy to understand. You must be a great teacher!
@mileage03
@mileage03 4 жыл бұрын
my man's got the bionicle collection, absolute chad
@AchooLAG
@AchooLAG 4 жыл бұрын
So about the Claidheamh Mor; The Claidheamh Mor is designed more as a secondary weapon than a primary. The main purposes of the weapon as it stands are three fold: 1) Charging from somewhere a demoknight shouldn't be able to charge from; 2) Finishing kills on enemies that would otherwise get away as they are too far; and 2) Insane mobility when used in combination with the Tide Turner. If the downside is reverted, you will be encouraged to use the weapon more often than not to make sure you actually get use out of it. But that's not what it's meant for; it's designed to deter constant use, and instead be more of a utility and cleanup weapon. When using it as utility, you aren't in combat, or you're making your way to the fight; when using it as cleanup, you're simply securing an already won fight. Reducing max health makes it harder to use the weapon for what it was designed, where as adding a damage vulnerability instead encourages you to use it for that intended waywhile also balancing the upsides. Truth be told, it's one of, if not the, best hybrid knight weapon because it's SO GOD DAMN GOOD at cleaning up kills and getting you to the fight. Hybrid knights tend to use their pipes more anyway. All of your points about the other weapons were good though; that one just caught a nerve. Good video!
@The_Lolatron_
@The_Lolatron_ 4 жыл бұрын
Damn Straight. Hybrid Knight takes skill and when you take into effect the Vulnerability is gone when you have any other weapon out, you can use the Claidheamh Mor, Tide-Turner, and Grenade Launcher/Iron Bomber together for a more aggressive Demoman gameplay. Good luck trying to get away from him.
@fletch6720
@fletch6720 4 жыл бұрын
This stuff is really helpful. Thank you man!
@SpeveBobs
@SpeveBobs 4 жыл бұрын
Candy Cane seems fine to me. I don't consider myself to be in the upper echelon of scout players, but I know how to play the game. There are many occasions that I suffer from the downside of the weapon, but I still live long enough to reap the benefits. If newer players are deterred from using a weapon just because it looks intimidating, that's fine. There's a place in the game for weapons like that. While it rewards not getting hit, getting hit is an inevitability. Even from explosive weapons.
@rustyrodgers7566
@rustyrodgers7566 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta till zesty jesus says the Southern Hospitality is too good
@centri-sol
@centri-sol 3 жыл бұрын
An idea I had for the Southern Hospitality was to make it more teamwork-centric: it would improve Dispenser range with every level and allow you to heal the buildings of other Engineers more per hit (and possibly still including the Bleed on hit with an extended duration), at the cost that *all* of _your_ buildings would cost a bit more to repair, regardless of who’s repairing it (more metal consumed on hit), and your Dispenser would ALSO cost a bit more to both *build* _and _*_upgrade_* (and, if Bleed-on-hit is retained, lessened Wrench damage). Takes the “Hospitality” theme to a bit of an extreme, making it easier for you to assist your allies, but sacrificing your own stability and requiring a bit _more_ help from your teammates in return. *[EDIT]* The fire damage vulnerability would just be scrapped altogether.
@pumaplays6143
@pumaplays6143 4 жыл бұрын
The southern Hospitality is a wrench. My idea for balancing it out, (despite me never using it much) is either the engineer takes 10% extra damage from bullets or his buildings take an extra 10% damage. Reasoning: the southern hospitality has the bleed effect to “deter” spies so it eliminates one method of attack and the other method of attack is more important to focus on, aka the frontlines. This means that a well co-ordinated team with say a sniper and a Heavy could eliminate the sentry and allow the other classes to focus on the objective. (I know this isn’t perfect but I tried)
@atomicgummygod9232
@atomicgummygod9232 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, it’s not actually too good at deterring spies, because of the passive debuff reduction from cloaking. You end up not having a lot of time to look for the cloak flicker, and unless you’ve got a good enough eye to find and apply the next hit.
@pumaplays6143
@pumaplays6143 4 жыл бұрын
@@atomicgummygod9232 like I said. I haven’t had much time using the wrench as I like the Jag or stock more.
@purplechaosemerald6187
@purplechaosemerald6187 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to tf2 the game where a shield made from a steering wheel stolen from a pirate ship made of wood protects you from fire
@adog7767
@adog7767 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized that the shelf behind you is full of bionicles. Thats' it, i've found my favorite tf2 KZbinr.
@sunlandia2497
@sunlandia2497 Жыл бұрын
at 15:36 a medic with the name "Katzenwerfer" starts healing zesty. Katzenwerfer is german for "catlauncher" or "catthrower". what a name.
@gabrielvili6288
@gabrielvili6288 3 жыл бұрын
me calculating tf2 damage resistances and vulnerability: *big brain* me doing my homework: *smol bren* 9:34 you have nice taste
@skelemelon7264
@skelemelon7264 3 жыл бұрын
9:45 bruh ain't no one gonna talk about that sick Bionicle collection tho
@lordofsandvich3630
@lordofsandvich3630 3 жыл бұрын
Claymore’s vulnerability is meant to offset its old max HP, but the value was increased since hybrid knights can use it easily Most weapons with vulnerabilities on them are hard to use for the simple fact that it becomes hard to judge your own survivability, causing you to overextend - Or in the Candy Cane’s case, instantly die for doing something you are kind of expected to do.
@psychromaniac
@psychromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
9:28 Ah, I see you're a man of culture.
@sticklyboi
@sticklyboi 4 жыл бұрын
you dont need to kill with the powerjack to get health back, it just needs to be active when you get a kill you could just have it out and let someone melt from afterburn and still get the 25 health
@ludwigiapilosa508
@ludwigiapilosa508 4 жыл бұрын
I got a strange Southern Hospitality with pumpkin bombs for next to nothing. Threw on posthumous kills and cloaked spies killed and it was money well spent. I mean, yeah, the random crits on the regular wrench actually make it better for clubbing spies, but watching them try to get away with the bleeding is just so enjoyable.
@shadowsnake5133
@shadowsnake5133 2 жыл бұрын
5:59 it's like having 2 50% off coupons, you don't get the item for free, you get it for 25% the normal price.
@quenquent95
@quenquent95 4 жыл бұрын
The crit part is pretty much why crit resist is so important in MvM. The upgrade is not only cheap but also reduce the biggest chunk of damage crit robots deal.
@ToastiVids
@ToastiVids 4 жыл бұрын
I think TF2 will have a renaissance next year, and i really hope your channel is at the front of it
@dopey473
@dopey473 4 жыл бұрын
Hey that sponsor actually sounds really useful, I might check them out since I've been meaning to get blue light glasses for a while now also props on hornyposting during A FUCKING SPONSORSHIP!
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