Martin: "There's no textures" Scout: "Let's get 'em" And that's how the search for the worst TF2 workshop map began
@sninctbur37267 жыл бұрын
7:29 filming for Meet the Medic
@AxelNder6 жыл бұрын
Sninctbur This needs more likes.
@Niiue6 жыл бұрын
lol
@medic32025 жыл бұрын
There were more soldiers actually
@u_q6c5 жыл бұрын
I dont get it
@dbkwk92785 жыл бұрын
@@u_q6c The only blu team enemies were soldiers. There was a large amount
@Sammie10537 жыл бұрын
A long while back, Piemations did a gag where he drew a map layout exactly like 2Points and asked Twitter to add on cliche CTF features to create the ultimate map. Somebody actually made the end result.
This is just a coincidence, I did not know about it (I am the creator of 2points)
@sheeloesreallycool5 жыл бұрын
MLG PROGAMER1999 whelp, good job anyway
@none-q4o7 жыл бұрын
Machina on that one bridge map will be OP
@kepiadina7 жыл бұрын
Justin pomson and righteous bison would rock as well, or even knockback weapons like airblast or force-a-nature would get you tons of multikills.
@desperate.18977 жыл бұрын
Justin Do people even play on that map??
@Everik-ct6pg6 жыл бұрын
7:30 When they find out that there's oil in Frog_land
@alexandredesouza36927 жыл бұрын
Deathbed is the Only one that shows any promise because it actually looks like the dude put in effort. Props to him.
@Hispanic_at_the_disco7175 жыл бұрын
That's because it's a retextured Unreal Tournament map
@plainszebra80855 жыл бұрын
@@Hispanic_at_the_disco717 Which map is it?
@Hispanic_at_the_disco7175 жыл бұрын
@@plainszebra8085 deck 16
@Hispanic_at_the_disco7175 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck I'm wrong I think it's DM-Nicktest
@KaneYork5 жыл бұрын
Also the "a7" means Alpha 7 so it's gone though some revisions!
@mrcomp19717 жыл бұрын
3:41 holy shit the exploding scout spawned an archimedes. Do you know how rare that is?
@anotherpersonwonderingarou83617 жыл бұрын
mrcomp ffs I was gonna say that lol!It's 1% tho which is as rare as u unbox the unusual!
@RedZeee7 жыл бұрын
1% not really too rare. One in a hundred deaths. You see it quite often
@chaosinc.3827 жыл бұрын
Well, bad players like me will see it a lot.
@samirwit32637 жыл бұрын
It's only 1 in a 100 that's not rare at all
@windowsmizu4167 жыл бұрын
mrcomp I have over 2,000 hours and it's only happened to me once back in 2014
@The_Lightning_Sparks7 жыл бұрын
It's funny, Lost Kingdom is actually a map my friend made. It's literally her first map, and it was *specifically* made for a Freak Fortress server she and I are regulars at. I'm surprised it was on the workshop, and the reason you might not have had any textures is because they might've just been on the server for some reason
@Spar_kie7 жыл бұрын
No, your friend just didn't pack the textures properly, but because everyone already had the textures installed from other maps that did pack them none on the server noticed. It's fine trying to pack shit is hell and I could never figure out how to do it
@The_Lightning_Sparks7 жыл бұрын
Right, right that's what it was, my bad. I don't know much about mapping myself, I'd forgotten the exact issue. Thank you for correcting me haha
@meatbeatmania7 жыл бұрын
Shit map
@channelbeingreplaced.26106 жыл бұрын
The Lightning did your friend reacted to this video? If she did what did she say?
@zephyron06 жыл бұрын
I used to play on that server, then it went down and changed owners. The old owner helps out sometimes but I don’t really like the new owner
@howwwwwwwwwww7 жыл бұрын
8:38 That guy that got airshotted was literally named 'aaaaaaaa' Just like he was screaming before his death.
@unissay35307 жыл бұрын
8:40 This guy has literally yelled his own name. sofunny
@nickspencerfishingrodd23837 жыл бұрын
UniSSay lol
@userwashere7 жыл бұрын
I remember accidentally downloading a map with a picture of two futa having fun...... ...I didn't regret it
@BobBob-eg1vl7 жыл бұрын
oh
@ikagura6 жыл бұрын
what name?
@Skullhawk136 жыл бұрын
Puerto rican guy that scream burrito link please?
@userwashere6 жыл бұрын
Skullhawk13 sorry I didn't remember the link anymore, nor the name because I deleted it long ago
@Skullhawk136 жыл бұрын
Puerto rican guy that scream burrito ah well, I imagine it’s been taken down anyway if it’s hentai
@StickMaster5007 жыл бұрын
The *Best* Maps The Workshop Has To Offer! FTFY
@ZealSenpai7 жыл бұрын
StickMaster500 why are you so early
@rvpairofdicethewanderer23837 жыл бұрын
Oh, you mean the forgotten maps? Pretty sure RTGame did something like that before. Makes me sad that there were so many beautiful maps not noticed, beautiful maps that even existed since 2008.
@jensumata7 жыл бұрын
StickMaster500 STICK YOU'RE EVERYWHERE I SWEAR TO GOD LMAO
@Bropower125Games7 жыл бұрын
Everyone always comments on Stickmasters comments and he never answers them, kek.
@jensumata7 жыл бұрын
Bropower125 he's too popular
@tango30197 жыл бұрын
You never ever judge a mapper by his or hers first map. It’s exactly the same as judging a toddler with its ability to do a 5k run.
@404User-Not-Found7 жыл бұрын
You know, a lot of the creators of those maps have seen this video, and have nothing against it.
@jimrustle27977 жыл бұрын
nobody is judging anyone here you triggered sjw bitch its just a meme video grow some balls
@thefoolishgmodcube26447 жыл бұрын
Jim Rustle you’re triggered enough to be sjw yourself.
@tango30197 жыл бұрын
I’m just kinda triggered by the thumbnail. I’m totally overreacting.
@JamEngulfer6 жыл бұрын
You still don't publish your first map though. If it's on workshop, it's fair game for criticism.
@stefanm.7345 жыл бұрын
2points is truly magical. It gets to the heart of what a TF2 map really is when you strip everything down.
@buzzlightyearpfp76416 жыл бұрын
7:44 when america finds oil
@JoshThePinkGump7 жыл бұрын
2:48 My TF2 game in a nutshell
@ironhelmet78907 жыл бұрын
*Gmod
@404User-Not-Found7 жыл бұрын
You are the type of guy who searches tf2 free download, aren't you?
@PootisDuspunsurHarambe7 жыл бұрын
TF2 is free to play.....
@loopyzach75377 жыл бұрын
ࣺ: *I'm gonna make a sassy comeback that he won't be able to respond to, heheh.* Pootis: Nah, bro, TF2 is free already.
@steller75157 жыл бұрын
But people... **sigh**
@martEEno7 жыл бұрын
*stab- stab- stab- stab- stab- stab- stab- stab-*
@_ryukora7 жыл бұрын
stab-stab-stab (sniper arrows taunts)
@AsrielDreemurr567 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Chara
@404User-Not-Found7 жыл бұрын
*STABBY STABBY*
@AsrielDreemurr567 жыл бұрын
Nah
@resetti20407 жыл бұрын
Asriel Dreemurr stop it, get some help
@Jack-fz8gc7 жыл бұрын
okay what the fuck dude you scrolled right past my map(koth_battlefront) at 1:07 and didnt download it. Why? it had a shitty picture and everything!
@404User-Not-Found7 жыл бұрын
lol imma download it.
@Jack-fz8gc7 жыл бұрын
lol
@bigpenny35095 жыл бұрын
The reason you all spawned inside eachother at 3:20 is probably because the creator didnt raise the spawn points off the ground or some other error in hammer (maybe a map leak?) caused all spawns to default to one point
@massiveidiot777 жыл бұрын
0:22 wait, so your buying bad maps now?
@RedZeee7 жыл бұрын
Name checks out (Sorry)
@kaztm79107 жыл бұрын
massive idiot Idiot.
@huhjanus7 жыл бұрын
*you're
@BushyBarbra7 жыл бұрын
His name is a whoosh
@gladoxia6 жыл бұрын
There are other things with value that he might not want to trade for playing shitty maps, such as time and electricity.
@cristinaflorea12546 жыл бұрын
3:42 look!! A dove!! This apears when killing a Scout, but ya have a chance 1/100. And it's a refernce from Meet the Medic video
@runforitman7 жыл бұрын
“I know this map is awful Instead of play testing it with friends and making it better or honing my skills I’m going to create a bad name for myself and upload loads of them!”
@burritocat50765 жыл бұрын
Y u so mad? Yeah sure the people that made these maps spent hours making these but that doesn't change the fact that the maps are bad...
@burritocat50765 жыл бұрын
Except for deathbed tho. Map is really good
@Scuzz12047 жыл бұрын
Bad Maps.... Thumbnail shows a guys first ever map.... And Says why would someone make this.. way to be encouraging to a New map maker.
@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R7 жыл бұрын
Grant Pearson It's not a good map at all though. Half the map is a choke point, not to mention how bad the sightlines obviously are. If someone's going to work on a map they should look at what techniques valve use and work from there.
@twurtz7 жыл бұрын
F I J I W A T E R yeah, but its- please tell me if i’m going too fast- the creator’s first attempt at a map which honestly means one of two things. 1) is testing things to send to others easily to help along with the mapping process 2) is probably just some kids first time making a map and could use some advice, not to be put on a “WORLDS SHITTIEST TF2 MAPS!!!!” video
@Somewhat_Unknown7 жыл бұрын
My first map is also a clusterfuck on the community terms. I'm quite happy with what I made
@Taylor-zh9gy7 жыл бұрын
the person who made 2points probably just made it as a joke or mockery to 2fort because of how bad 2fort is.
@bruh-yl4sn7 жыл бұрын
TF2Maps.net is the way to go
@tremormcbrismillet17524 жыл бұрын
8:00 perfect tribute for Rick May :( RIP Rick May
@zomi36767 жыл бұрын
OMFG I made it in the video 8:00 THANK YOU MARTIN
@gearstorm7546 жыл бұрын
Your not the only one here
@The40Oliver6 жыл бұрын
7:30 We're all soldiers now
@novakattila7 жыл бұрын
STEAMED CLAMS?
@TM__15667 жыл бұрын
No, no.. i said Steamed Hams, that's how i call Hamburgers
@aaronandrews56487 жыл бұрын
You call hamburgers steamed hams?
@WEndro3337 жыл бұрын
Uh-huh, and what region?
@MindlessTurtle7 жыл бұрын
Uh, upstate New York.
@aaronandrews56487 жыл бұрын
Really? Well, I'm from Utica and I've never heard anyone use the phrase steamed hams.
@bb5k9477 жыл бұрын
I love it man! Your videos are really enjoyable and the subtitles are so good. Please keep up the good work :)
@galopus27077 жыл бұрын
When you make shitty map but still ending in video that is definition of luck
@quixxnaaar4 жыл бұрын
For those curious, the saxy music that plays at the end when he airshots is Jungle Theme by Contra Band. They do some pretty dope covers of videogame music.
@Eternal_P25 жыл бұрын
6:09 “nah not really” as he jumps then charges
@1lucia7 жыл бұрын
4:43 I like how the - *cut* seriousmartin cut master
@ashzciel7 жыл бұрын
hey, I made deathbed, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@404User-Not-Found7 жыл бұрын
Deathbed was the best out of all those.... Actually i think it is the best overall.
@stevenflores74057 жыл бұрын
ashz I played on that map. Pretty fun for goofing around
@dogman92915 жыл бұрын
Had a look at it, it's actually a genuinely good map design and layout! Well done man! There's a few chokepoints, but adding more alternative routes and more cover areas from enemy fire can easily fix that. The only thing I really suggest is that you add some decor and other map "gimmicks" to make it interesting and look more polished. Secret areas and routes could also be neat, since your map has a mazelike theme to it that would do well with that kind of thing. Overall, your map is really good and manages to be viable for every class in the game, which is a very big deal for a workshop map. I'm a fan, and I'd love to see it polished off if you're up to that! Keep up the good work, man!
@TheMAZZTer6 жыл бұрын
My favorite TF2 server had "Terrible Map Tuesdays". Good times. Some of the maps were so amazingly terrible they made the regular map rotation.
@tylermustardloooser3866 жыл бұрын
3:42 a dove flew out of him once in a lifetime experience
@memestealer63484 жыл бұрын
7:59 Valve servers on April 14, 2020 [R.I.P. Rick May]
@ahbraveconscript9977 жыл бұрын
suddenly the map i made doesn't look so bad.
@mrstabtoxic Жыл бұрын
God seeing thia in my suggested vidoes again made me realize its been 5 years and it only feels like a year old
@goksir58457 жыл бұрын
0/10 didn't play with community on memeroid.
@LetsHitSubsNoVideos7 жыл бұрын
I need that song at 6:54 for... Scientific reasons
@mysteriousshadow44605 жыл бұрын
I believe you as I try not to look at your profile
@gawain_goat14095 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4GTnomsZbSmeaM FOUND IT REEEEEEEEEEE
@creature_of_fur7 жыл бұрын
I once did a map where blue base was on a small plane, and they would've capped CPs on red's big plane... Besides the fact that I have never actually finished the map, it had a huge downfall. This made the map compiler freak out a little... And at the end: I have the main map and the "skybox world" on the same visleaf... This was lolz
@ham-sandman81715 жыл бұрын
wow, 2 years ago exactly this video was posted
@rmbaaalftgodhimself50877 жыл бұрын
Jesus your uploading so much keep it up Martin
@zekevesva20437 жыл бұрын
6:35 nice to see it still works, best moments of tf2 ever.
@Forzbee7 жыл бұрын
i made dont fall it was my first map and i hate myself for makeing it
@404User-Not-Found7 жыл бұрын
Shut up! It's perfect!
@faeire07 жыл бұрын
MrKrampus Least it works right. Most other maps don't work.
@stevenflores74057 жыл бұрын
MrKrampus Nah don't worry about it. Unless you're improving and putting effort, you will become better at map making.
@PoopScoopCoop6 жыл бұрын
7:06 SeriousMartin predicted K Rool in Smah Bros. Ultimate!
@iraqiraqi54757 жыл бұрын
0:30 - OOH, Steamed Hams Map!
@gabethedog11417 жыл бұрын
7:13 "*This is a friendly heavy server*" Seconds after: *Heavy's dead body laying on the ground*
@palecaptainwolfkayls84997 жыл бұрын
When you were playing with 32 players _Where was the "fun looking" map at that you failed to trimp on_ *_AND where was the memeroid map?_*
@emh1105_6 жыл бұрын
6:26 “Capture all five of the Control Points to win the game!”
@diegodankquixote-wry32427 жыл бұрын
The all-Star mash-up is familiar... 🤔... but I can't put I can't put my finger on it...
@AlanElChato7 жыл бұрын
Dank Quixote 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@domicson45877 жыл бұрын
Dank Quixote YA MISSED THE JOKE YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID "I can't put my finger on my forehead in the shape of an L"
@Fort_Master7 жыл бұрын
Seriously though what is that remix?
@Fort_Master7 жыл бұрын
Seriously though what is that remix?
@tengu4517 жыл бұрын
The song is mix between All-star and the Servant x Service op
@user-11z1574 жыл бұрын
Soldiers when celebrate Rick May's Tribute: 7:53
@tomlawson47137 жыл бұрын
You should play the Steamed Hams map
@PattPlays6 жыл бұрын
Why did this end? This needs to be a weekly series. do it pls.
@drzomboland7 жыл бұрын
The Video itself was fine, even quite funny in a few places, but I don't think you should voice such "vulgar" opinions on maps. Sure the Steam Workshop has quite a large amount of atrocious god awful fucking maps, I agree. Just don't shit all over someones hard work when the map is clearly a work in progress, or the creator is just a novice. Hammer is a painful software to use, and it's painful for your computer to run it, ask any source mapper ever.
@zoner58187 жыл бұрын
It's painful to run if you have a Core 2 Duo or Something and less than 4GB of RAM. Heck even that is fine to make a pretty good map.
@drzomboland7 жыл бұрын
Well, believe me I've seen people who had their PC's grind to a halt because they either had awful visleafs making their VMF's take up half of their harddrives or they just improperly set up their Level Editor. Hammers needs alot of tweaking and fiddling if you want to make large maps. EDIT: Also Hammer has a tendency to crash all the fucking time. Not to mention, if you have a leak somewhere in your enormous map, it can be like finding a needle in a haystack.
@spacecore53227 жыл бұрын
*_h a r d w o r k_*
@npc_blob16097 жыл бұрын
That's what pointfiles are for. But yeah, Hammer is borderline unstable, it has tons of problems and the TF2maps.net forums are filled with reports of one-of-a-kind bugs and errors.
@jimrustle27977 жыл бұрын
>hard work O M E G A L U L M E G A L U L im guessing one of these maps were yours?
@marcusvolpicella52776 жыл бұрын
3:42 Not sure how I noticed this, but if you looked closely you can see that when the Scout dies a dove flies out of his body. This is a reference to “Meet The Medic” and had a 1 in 100 chance of occurring. I have no life whatsoever.
@playedtoomuch52597 жыл бұрын
cp_2point looks like it was made in roblox
@sonoda9447 жыл бұрын
Typical Colors 2 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
@gluGPU5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I build in Roblox Studio and I can do better than that :sunglasses:
@sirultim86434 жыл бұрын
7:29 Rick May tribute
@uberpwner486 жыл бұрын
7:06 - name of the music?
@invalid_user_handle5 жыл бұрын
0:22 you can actually see one of the maps in the video as a fixed version there. LostKingdom_VSH (Retextured v2.6)
@Thunduriken7 жыл бұрын
Shit I missed the announcement
@trung10917 жыл бұрын
same
@DarkCreeperSlayers4 жыл бұрын
6:58 are we not gonna talk about how that's literally a gay furry porn spray on the wall
@solr80166 жыл бұрын
Maybe they’re bad because the creators aren’t very experienced with making maps. Calling someone’s first map shit isn’t cool.
@flamingeyeball16 жыл бұрын
As a source mapper, it literally doesn't matter, and most people dont upload their first map.
@fluffyeevee3835 жыл бұрын
Deathbed A7 is legit a good looking map. I didn't expect to find one here
@Fort_Master7 жыл бұрын
Whats the music at 6:53 ? and where can I find it!
@matesboat94667 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@kepiadina7 жыл бұрын
The music is All star sped up
@Fort_Master7 жыл бұрын
I know it's all star, but there's something else in the background as well.
@Envy_the_Darksider7 жыл бұрын
"I found this in my trash can" by Swordy I'm not joking. That's literally the name of the remix. But it is an awesome one nonetheless
@Fort_Master7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kamanira7 жыл бұрын
First thing we see when he scrolls down; Well Seymour, I made it, despite your directions.
@pac28124 жыл бұрын
Rick May Tributes be like: 8:00
@Kyle_Reese4 жыл бұрын
4:27 that map looks like it's for solar light because like sometimes solar light does trimping, if you don't know that trimping is, it means that you charge then charge onto multiple slopes, thats what makes demoman some how glide into the air, if you still don't understand check out soar light's new vid
@Gardienne967 жыл бұрын
What's the allstar remix during the market gardener bit?
@doktorkritzisch7 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4GTnomsZbSmeaM
@thepoorsap99747 жыл бұрын
6:22 *"Capture all five of the Control Points to win the game!"*
@MegaJani7 жыл бұрын
3:42 There's Archimedes :v :O
@Sean-yj4wq4 жыл бұрын
2:36 lost kingdom? More like lost textures
@pinecone96197 жыл бұрын
I saw the steamed hams map
@Firepal3D6 жыл бұрын
I lovr how the Memeroid map isn't even sealed right, that's why the water is invisible.
@ioratv7 жыл бұрын
saxaphone contra theme?!
@19son965 жыл бұрын
Archimedes at 3:40?!?
@Phoenix-fw7bm5 жыл бұрын
This guy laughing at maps that he can’t even make one
@tameronica4 жыл бұрын
7:29 In honor of rick may.
@tald_zsc43987 жыл бұрын
Hi Martin :3
@Artcat9322 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone of these maps have the exact same default box texture.
@daniel-gabrielvlad24627 жыл бұрын
More.
@asdasf8817 Жыл бұрын
This gives me an attack/defend map idea: A baseball field but the bases are control points and the dugouts are spawns
@Somewhat_Unknown7 жыл бұрын
This video is just rude. At least blur out the names.
@voidofspaceandtime46847 жыл бұрын
Oh nooo theyre going to be harassed! /s The worst that'll happen to them is that they'll delete their shit maps from workshop.
@panzerclub11856 жыл бұрын
Void of Space and Time and this is why the community is dying
@Lolneed16 жыл бұрын
How is it rude?
@FrenchgineerGaming3 жыл бұрын
He serious he martin but most importantly he not craftin'
@paradoxicaloutcome10077 жыл бұрын
I mean, I'm sure every person whose map was featured in a video (without their consent) that is called 'bad maps' just to get shit on for the first map they're made is totally cool with what you're doing. I'm sure this kind of behaviour doesn't have any consequences for the slowly dwindling TF2 community.
@HarmonizedHero7 жыл бұрын
0:17 * is eating grilled sausage * steamed ham
@zex58767 жыл бұрын
And how many maps have you created?
@faeire07 жыл бұрын
ZEX Oneeyed Such a boring argument. Get an argument that isn't balderdash please.
@JamDoggie7 жыл бұрын
even if you dont have mapping experience these would obviously still be considered bad
@lukkkasz3237 жыл бұрын
Worst argument ever.
@sleeves26047 жыл бұрын
And how many brain cells do you have?
@zex58767 жыл бұрын
What exactly is that supposed to mean?
@darthpeashooter11286 жыл бұрын
6:54 market garden war in a nutshell
@day21tracks7 жыл бұрын
Not so nice of you shitiing on people like this.
@5crungo7 жыл бұрын
*shitting, don't try and act tough and shit on the internet, it just makes you seem immature and rather dense.
@day21tracks7 жыл бұрын
I. Wha?
@Ferase7 жыл бұрын
[ Soviet Maverick ] He’s not trying to “act tough,” he’s just saying that the person in the video is being a little harsh towards maps that, while some are not too good, had a lot of effort put into them. I don’t think you should judge people simply by their profile picture, because that’s entirely immature and generally malicious. There was no need to go out and use that against him, let alone use it as a judging point.
@skalty98686 жыл бұрын
Erik Lecjaks He’s insulting shitty maps. He’s not saying they’ll never make a good map, or that they are terrible people, but that what they made is bad. They probably think the same, almost everyone hates the first of any craft they make
@Samwow5 жыл бұрын
@@skalty9868 idk, as a map maker myself, it can be frustrating to see people shit on something you made regardless of quality without explaining why they don't like it. Constructive criticism from people is the only reason I've been able to improve as a mapper, and i think that everyone needs it. Just my thoughts.
@notasovietspytrustme43925 жыл бұрын
I’m getting Bridge of Eldin in smash bros vibes
@anyarr7 жыл бұрын
Excellent wait to encourage novice mappers. Don't blur out any names and criticize harshly. Excellent.
@skalty98686 жыл бұрын
Anyar it’s a fucking joke and these maps legitimately suck
@flamingeyeball16 жыл бұрын
Yeah, now novice mappers know not to do these things in an uploaded map!
@inaja19154 жыл бұрын
2:43 thanks for the epilepsy
@NicoOak7 жыл бұрын
i really enjoy your content but i think you should get a better mic
@cloudnine.6 жыл бұрын
STEAMED HAMS never fucking Gets me
@jake-fr2du7 жыл бұрын
sup
@-45-176 жыл бұрын
Sal being dumb said sup in the KZbin comment section making him tonights biggest loser
@doot6094 жыл бұрын
They say, to this day, beat has not gotten his $5.
@KaiZeeYT-os9jt7 жыл бұрын
Try and make a map yourseld
@mfw9955 жыл бұрын
3:41 wow the archimedes haves 1% to spawn in a dead scout, is a reference to meet the medic
@ilikecurry23456 жыл бұрын
Tracklist: Cranky's Cabin (Mean-Spirited Advice) SMB theme remix #7777777 (seriously, they remix this theme a LOT, both officially and via fans) 3/4 remix of the SMB3 Athletic Theme ALL STAR REMIX WHY GODDAMMIT-- Gangplank Galleon (Fight for the Bananas!)
@Garfield43177 жыл бұрын
I really like this channel, it captures the silly fun TF2 should be all about