From Steyr to Glock: Austria's Military Pistol History

[@lesflynn4455]

Paul Harrell (RIP Sir) had a Steyr GB and used it in a few of his videos. He loved it, and shot it extremely well. He shot every gun extremely well, and made it look so easy.

[@papalegba6796]

It's rumoured the British SAS used the Steyr GB when it first came out because of its accuracy, impossible to verify tho. They have a lot of leeway on what arms they use for any given mission.

[@roteroktober360]

i think he said that it was his carry gun from time to time, his early passing is very sad and unfortunate

[@762x69]

Paul inspired my 92sb purchase

[@rfswitch4530]

I own a GB. It makes the HiPoint JCP look like a it's a normal size and mags are unobtanium. However, it is an incredible pistol and is consistently accurate. I just wouldn't want to carry it.

[@Starless85]

That’s insane that the partially cocked pistol striker went back that far, I had no idea.

[@BlackTridentOfficial]

It was a pleasure having you in Austria 🙌 🇦🇹 🔥

[@adotare9180]

James, if you keep shooting old guns, you’re eventually going to start buying old guns. One of us! One of us!

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

The WW1 era Austrian handguns look so good, NGL. There's something about their designs that just click in my brain.

[@Lomi311]

The channel C&Rsenal has videos on all the Austrian WW1 guns that are great. That’s where I learned that first one actually has 10 rounds, not 8.

[@cmtptr]

It's that they look like Star Wars blasters.

[@herknorth8691]

No joke, I clicked on the vid after just seeing the thumbnail and title, thinking this was Forgotten Weapons. The TFB intro threw me for a loop. 😂

[@SS-tr5ru]

Steyr still makes excellent pistols

[@paleoph6168]

Shame they make pretty much zero attempts at marketing them. The M series is phenomenal.

[@Myrcene]

100% agree. I like the M9-A2 MF more than any other polymer gun I’ve shot and at least as much as the metal CZs. Excellent gun with 0 marketing budget.

[@nathanbrand1]

It's a chicken / egg problem. Everyone says they're great but I don't want to be on an aftermarket and parts island, so I won't buy one

[@jesterhead8028]

Correct. The one I have is fantastic. But getting parts or even spare mags is a pain.

[@AustrianJager]

@@paleoph6168 The marketing of STEYR is just a disaster. Nobody understand the decisions they make. They guy, who is called head of marketing, is a complete idiot dwarf.

[@darthhodges]

James complaining about the snow makes sense when you remember that his home state of Louisiana is at the same latitude as Egypt. Whereas Austria is at the same latitude as Minnesota.

[@setituptoblowitup]

Big 🧠

[@JoshJones-37334]

That’s probably why everyone is leaving it in droves.

[@tobiasfreitag2182]

​@@JoshJones-37334who's leaving?

[@phonepoies]

@@JoshJones-37334 people are moving in, my man.

[@JoshJones-37334]

@@phonepoies from 2022-2023 Louisiana lost 14k residents, which is 0.3% of the population. That’s a higher percentage than California.

[@ES90344]

If anyone wants to learn more about the early Steyr, C&Rsenal has several in depth videos on them.

[@littleboss6970]

“Austria World War II boomer” means something completely different there

[@PAFronteri]

Nice walk through. Shame that the newest Steyr A1, A2 pistol dident got mentioned also since they talked about the Steyr GB.

[@Phlostonparadise2971]

@@PAFronteri You mean the guns that run circles around glocks in almost any measurable way? Weird they didn't mention it.

[@AKK5I]

You know he's in austria when his buddy's name is Wolfgang

[@killerkraut9179]

I think the name wolfgang exist in all German speaking Countrys!

[@albanhabakuk53]

A more correct way to pronounce it, though, would be "wallffgung". The way James says it it would be written as "Wulfgäng" 😂

[@killerkraut9179]

@@albanhabakuk53 I dont think so! In german O arent pronpunced lika a!

[@albanhabakuk53]

@@killerkraut9179 as a native german speaking person, living in a german speaking country my entire life, i have no clue what you just tried to say.😂

[@killerkraut9179]

@@albanhabakuk53 wallffgung pronouncation is wrong why by Wolfgang the O isnt like A Pronounced! The first syllable of Wolfgang is Wolf like the animal Wolf, in germany Wolf isnt Pronounced like Walf!

[@bernardsbbq]

Man, James you seem to have relocated to Austria. So many great videos from here lately. Greetings from Vienna!

[@IronGunner10]

Wolfgang is a boss, Great work!

[@BlackTridentOfficial]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@tubekulose]

Or as the guy in the video said: "Oulfgeng" 😁

[@DL-ij7tf]

Paul Harrell had a Steyr GB he used in a number of videos and made a video on. Cool gun. RIP

[@papalegba6796]

Was first introduced in 1972 in limited numbers, rumour has it the British SAS used them due to their accuracy & large magazine. Impossible to verify tho.

[@GunRoastShorts]

I just love how you have turned your disdain of old antiques into an interest. Clint and Ian giving you that bug. 😂

[@rmbettac]

Wolfgang seems like a real enthusiast. Cool video segment.

[@elbestia106]

9mm minus 8mm equals 1mm 9 - 8 = 1 Just double checking James' math to make sure he is correct.

[@samslaughter6828]

Dry!

[@kennethmatthews9033]

In my older years, I am gaining appreciation for the history of firearms. That Steyr is pretty cool. Keep up the fantastic work!

[@robertkidnley93]

As a texan I am for ever jealous of you wearing a jacket let alone shooting in the snow

[@nirfz]

Best thing about snow is that falling snow makes everything quieter.

[@Richmart1955]

❤ Nice Wolfgang appreciates the classic 1911.

[@brandonl5978]

The Steyr GB sorta reminds me of the PX4, minus the rotating barrel of course.

[@josephgehring919]

I was thinking PX-4 and CZ-75 had a kid

[@brandonl5978]

@@josephgehring919 I can see it

[@ReboyGTR]

*I find it funny that James finds the Steyr GB ugly. Becauce people called the Glock ugly when it was new.*

[@jeffreybrooks8643]

But James is a shameless pimp for Glock...

[@motorosso3349]

Glocks are still ugly, that hasn't changed.

[@paleoph6168]

To this day, many people still find Glocks ugly.

[@622PSS]

"Shameless Pimp" 😜🤣

[@jacqirius]

@@motorosso3349 form follows function, it was intended to be a service firearm from the beginning

[@ryangowin1988]

Steyr M9A1, SIIIICKNESS.

[@anthonyluisi7096]

absolutely 💯 %

[@RVered]

Steyr had little to do with M1907 apart from manufacturing. It was designed by a Czech named Karel Krnka, who worked for Georg Roth. Since Roth had insufficient manufacturing capabilities, the government purchased the rights and contracted Steyr and FEG.

[@Hansjörg-b2q]

Krnka was Austrian, because Czechoslowakia doesn't exist at this time.

[@RVered]

@@Hansjörg-b2q It was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire, but the local population was never called "Austrian". It's like saying that Gandhi was British because he was born in British India.

[@Hansjörg-b2q]

@@RVered I'm very sorry, but you have very little knowledge of Austro-Hungarian history. Bohemia and Moravia (now the Czech Republic and parts of Slovakia) were part of Austria. They were parts of a multi-ethnic state and many German speakers also lived there. Comparing this with India is absolutely wrong and ridiculous.

[@GrayGoon9m]

awesome Video Thankyou Guys

[@siegfriedsalchenegger6732]

Great video of the greatest country in the world. One thing: Wolfgang, niemand hat je so genial das Wort "Jagdkommando" ins Englische übersetzt :D Schöne Grüße aus der Steiermark!

[@AndrewDasilvaPLT]

When are we getting an optics ready Steyr C/M/L9?

[@Phlostonparadise2971]

The sights are perfect, why do you need a stinky RDS?

[@gansior4744]

That model 1912 shoot smooth. Great handgun for its time

[@hopewilliams6705]

Ha... James even in Austria Glock isn't that special! LMFAO 😂

[@gansior4744]

Never was. Almost like it was the point

[@Hansjörg-b2q]

The GB is NOT ugly! ☝🏻

[@jarheadleatherneck9965]

I have a C-9 A2 MF great gun. They have trapezoid sights they take a little bit of getting used to.

[@RMRM4444]

I bought one when Bereli had them on sale for $200. I’ve been torture testing it for months. 800 rounds so far without any issue at all. It just won’t malfunction.

[@Phlostonparadise2971]

The Steyr trap sights are perfection. You get a way better view of your target as compared to squared irons and the precision of a pointy triangle is hard to beat. Arguably, the bulk/accuracy potential ratio beats out what current red dots offer.

[@Drgunzo616]

​@@RMRM4444I got mine from Bereli also. For that price I'd get two more. 😅 I have smaller hands so it fits me perfectly. Very good shooter, love the sights. Picked up one of their rifles in .223 and it's also very nice. Steyr on clearance is a no brainer.

[@sssummmak]

Wait wait wait.... Where is my Steyr M9A1 or M9A2 James?! The Glock for people who do not want Glock.

[@ShootAUT]

It's about service pistols (and one almost-service pistol in case of the Steyr GB). The Steyr M9, as good as it is, was never formally adopted.

[@sssummmak]

@@ShootAUT Ha! Thanks

[@jeffreybrooks8643]

Hey, James! While today it may appear complicated & ugly, the Steyr GB was a cutting edge handgun at the time of its introduction because of its 18+1 round magazine & has delayed mechanism. Nowadays we know more & better, but back in the day the GB was truly revolutionary.

[@earldelsanto]

Great vid

[@motorosso3349]

Thanks to Wolfgang, he did a great job being the foil to James.

[@meowzers8655]

James do a segment on the school/program this guest went through! Please. Just a synopsis for the time being. Or convince Ian @forgottenweapons lol

[@nunyabeeswax2575]

Oh for sure, that'd be so cool to learn more about!

[@Papieck37]

As an Austrian myself, I too like the 1911 a lot despite the fact that I own a Glock 17 Gen 3. There is something special about that John Moses Browning de sign.

[@gordtron]

someone needs to start remaking tricked out Steyr-Hahn 1912's. love the buttstock option, longer mag, and pistols need to use stripper clips more often.

[@ChukN0rris]

The GB's slide is very pretty.

[@sherizaahd]

Props to Wolfgang for trolling you with the 1911 pick!

[@Lomi311]

That Roth Steyr 1907 holds 10 rounds if I recall. Obviously this guy knows more about guns then I ever could but I think he may have misspoke because the Steyr Hahn right there holds 8. C&Rsenal has a great video on both.

[@GrumpyGenXGramps]

I think is so cool that his favorite is the 1911! I totally get it as an engineer. Everyone seems to forget what a leap it was and the amount of service life it had! Over a HUNDRED years!! Yes Glocks are dead nuts reliable, but WHERE did the tilting, locking barrel come from?

[@profesercreeper]

1911 was by far the best pistol in its timeframe. Wouldn’t say another pistol was better than it until the hi power and then the wonder nines later.

[@anthonyluisi7096]

Steyr M9 A1 awesome handgun 👏

[@loquat4440]

The browning 1900 model pistol was used on a large scale by a military prior to the the 1907 Austrian pistol mentioned in the video. The Model 1900 saw wide distribution throughout Europe. The Belgian war ministry placed an order for 10,000 guns in 1900, and it served as the standard sidearm for the Belgian military through World War I. The Austro-Hungarian empire also purchased the weapon; the exact quantity purchased is not known, but Vanderlinden states that 770 were in the military inventory of 1914. The gun was also widely used by German police. Don Maus has documented at least 62 Model 1900 FN pistols with German police markings. Many of these guns have safety markings in German, indicating that they were purchased under contract. The Model 1900 also saw use by police in Finland, as well as during various wars up to 1945. See Vanderlinden for details. from The 1899/1900 FN Browning by Ed Buffaloe

[@loquat4440]

the 9x23 steyr is not so different from the 9mm largo round and said to have been design independently of each other. IIRC correctly the steyr round will work in 9mm largo pistols, and read the largo work in steyr guns. Some claim that the steyr is too long to fit a largo chamber.

[@vonleiningen]

Wow, you beat Garand Thumb in upload time.

[@jakefromstatefarm9721]

Wolfgang and I are single handedly brining back V neck tee shirts.

[@dantay7484]

Is Wolfgang the Austrian version of Hop?

[@bluemonday09]

6:18 *freedom intensifies*

[@faryldaryl3975]

Imagine being in the Austrian Army in the '50s and being told you have to turn in your .45 caliber 1911 for a 9mm crunchenticker P38. Or in the American Army in the '80s.

[@theBullStarr]

Ugly guns will always embarrass you with how well it shoots 😂 every time

[@jeremyburris4890]

A gun high school? How do we not have that in the US?

[@Sig_P229]

I still carry my Gen 2 G17 from time to time. Fun fact: my G17 is as tall as my “compact” P229

[@CaptainFalcon07]

I think that steyr gb looks pretty cool, looks like a px4

[@lesflynn4455]

I think the Steyr came first.

[@Starless85]

Maybe my brains are bad but I like the look of the GB

[@reddurt8153]

Did the Eng from Glock go to Steyr to design the L-m2? its grip angle is in between the 1911 and Glock..... Accurate easy to shoot no "safety'" except a trigger safety. Reeves did a small bit from a trade show....

[@1776_duck]

That Austrian made the best choice ever made by any Austrian- ever.

[@glennsammon4465]

that 07 Steyr would look good in a star wars movie or a new Blade Runner reboot.

[@reelnative01]

Man you always bring the goods thanks James

[@35183518100]

Shooting in the snow, awesome. Of course I am in Texas.

[@cristianpopescu78]

Yes! An european gun Nation! God bless you guys!

[@alanniederlitz8630]

Great clip. At least Wolfgang doesnt wear GAY NAWLINS lawyer shorts... HA!!! Great clip tho, love yalls work (cept tha shorts)...

[@JAMESADAMS-zt2ww]

The Steyr GB is very ammo sensitive, mine will not handle +P ammo, it misfeeds a lot just like this one did. Rerun your test with standard pressure ammo.

[@G.W-01]

In the year of 2024, i still dont own a 1911 or 2011 kinda want one though.

[@mikewithers299]

They are a piece of history. Prices keep getting higher. Get one soon.

[@G.W-01]

@@mikewithers299 Yeah leaning towards Stealth Arms Platypus so I can utilize my Glock mags.

[@choppsticc]

The Prodigy is an amazing 2011 one of the best entry level. It had issues when it first released but they have long since been resolved and it’s fantastic

[@mikewithers299]

@G.W-01 I got a 1911 and love it. One day I might try a 2011, but for now I love the nostalgia that comes from a 100 year old design. I love my striker guns. They are very reliable and fool-proof.

[@wheelguns4wheelmen802]

My wife got me a 1911 for Christmas last year, which was cool because I’d never buy one if it were up to me because I have no use for it and there are dozens of other handguns I’d rather spend my limited funds on. But I love my Springfield Emissary (although it is not too “authentic”).

[@johndecker9983]

You can see the physical revulsion on James' face when he sees the GB. 😂 like watching someone eat a well-done steak, glad he didn't vomit on those treasures.

[@tiny_tex]

poor Florida Man stuck into a snowball to shoot Austrian guns. Tell Wolfgang he did a great job presenting these!

[@teamstucker624]

Great topic before I watch this I'm go to say a prayer. Please 🙏 let James say Glock hasn't really done much designing improvements sense the late 1980s LoL. I'm a big Glock owner and fan just saying what we all feel without finger grooves in my comment.

[@ryangowin1988]

8mm? "Its like a 9mm only 1mm smaller"! Brilliant James, brilliant!

[@Spasiboy]

Great episode. Gib me moar

[@M.M.83-U]

From striker fired safety action to striker fired safety action.

[@homicidalplatypus1]

Today on forgotten short shorts

[@maxfortune4466]

The video edition of Moetz/Schuy.

[@454FatJack]

Steyr m12/p16 Full auto ❤

[@albanhabakuk53]

James, when did you record this video? There is no snow yet, so it must be pretty long ago since you filmed it. 😂 Must be the editors fault, for sure...

[@BlackPrince41]

Not true, lower austrian here, we have snow at higher elevations starting at ~1200 meters, arround Ferlach. Been on the Klagenfurter Hütte 3 weeks ago and there's half a meter.

[@IndivisacInsepa]

They allways hiding the S.M9a2 tho.

[@josh656]

Steyr M9-A2 gang not again!

[@TexanApollyon]

1912 is simply A E S T H E T I C

[@sherizaahd]

the Steyr GB looks a bit like a Beretta PX4.

[@adnansalim2187]

Apple Watch, Garmin watch …. 1911 in service from 1955 to …… 1955 😳

[@Blacky-q8f]

You should really try the steyr pistols . There is something wrong with you if you dont love the L1 a lot more then the glock .

[@benjamincagle3920]

James talking about how ugly the Steyr GB is, but all I can see is an oversized PX4 😂

[@meowzers8655]

Wow only one school in Europe for weapons engineering/gunsmithing and it for 14yr olds/high schoolers. Come on America!

[@triviszla1536]

8mm Steyr is a caliber? wow

[@michaelwalsh3474]

14:41 😂❤🎉

[@eriklambert3809]

Why aren’t Steyr pistols used more today?

[@jeffreybrooks8643]

Rather expensive & a bit radical from the mainstream. Top quality, though.

[@eriklambert3809]

@@jeffreybrooks8643 Steyr is on the other side of town, but here, they are cheaper than Glocks. Close to CZ polymer guns. I can't use the standard sights, but even local to them, I never see anyone carry one. The new ones, like Sig, are chassis guns.

[@qq0qq0qqqqqqq0q4]

«in Austria we didn’t have an army between 1938 and 1955» 😂

[@garyK.45ACP]

They're still in the denial phase.

[@darthhodges]

@@garyK.45ACP Technically he was accurate. Austria joined with with Germany in 1938 in a way that, to the average Austrian, looked like they were conquered without a shot being fired. All Austrian military assets were absorbed into the German military and Austrians were subject to the same conscription and other wartime policies as the rest of Germany. They were, in effect, a province of Germany and didn't have national autonomy again until 1955.

[@crundle1328]

TWO WORLD WARS!!!

[@garyK.45ACP]

@@darthhodges Like I said...denial.

[@gehtdianschasau8372]

des is ned lustig

[@PharmerJn]

Ausgezeichnet Wolfgang, Sie sind auch sehr lustig (1911)!

[@SteppingR]

original mags for the steyr not under 150 bucks ;)

[@setituptoblowitup]

RIP Gaston Glock.

[@454FatJack]

P38 metall grip plates. Post WW French made?

[@shaifulafzan]

Please make glock grip to be 1911 grip degree. And please give option for alloy frame. Dont too arrogant glock

[@killerkraut9179]

I think from the side the Gb dosnt look that ugly!

[@angelobartolomeu5679]

4:20 same basic measurements that 38 super auto, but it probably has different geometry in general that woul make it impossible to shoot

[@jeremyalmachar5523]

What jacket are you wearing

[@nunyabeeswax2575]

Someone has been hanging out a lot recently with Ian McCollum lol, it's starting to become obvious!

[@PracticalTacticalFedeli]

Here baby!🐐

[@ONeilDuncan-r8z]

997 Emmerich Ways

[@jimstaszko1675]

Surprised "Wolfie" didn't have a man bun.

[@haraffael7821]

The correct name for "Österreichisches Bundesheer" is "Austrian Armed Forces", because we arent an Army (due to size and it being a branch)

[@Dmac6969]

What jacket is James wearing

[@wurdezudiesemaccountgezwungen]

Carinthia

[@ZentralratFliesentischbesitzer]

Also an Austrian brand. Expensive but high end quality

[@tomcleave2622]

Of course he a 1911 guy he’s actually an expert none the shooter I know want one of those plastic not so-fantastic see how they work in 100 years?

[@Imnotsurewhattoput798]

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