Fusion 360 BMW M4 Alloy Rim Modelling

[@SermedAlWasiti]

Yes, I definitely second that: for an Inventor user, coming up to speed with Fusion 360 is almost trivially easy...Thanks, mate, and keep em coming!

[@Neil3D]

There was areas of Fusion which were quite frustrating to use i.e. sketching was a bit convoluted, clunky, very mouse clicky, and sometimes difficult to see what was going on due to the background geometry being so prominent but for what it is, a tenth of the price of Inventor, it's a pretty amazing product. The fact that I could do this model almost identically in Fusion to how I did it in Inventor is testament to how capable Fusion is.

[@SermedAlWasiti]

Don't forget that Inventor has years of development on it, while Fusion, relatively speaking, was released yesterday. I see it as an ideal low-cost tool for geometry creation, plus it was very recently updated to include NASTRAN as an FEA solver, which is my main aim for using it: as a pre/postprocessor for analysis work. NASTRAN In-Cad, on the other hand, costs $$$$...True, the FEA functionality is still relatively limited in Fusion 360, but I am hoping it will get there soon enough...

[@andrewkillian5877]

TFI really the only real issue I've had in transitioning was the new assembly environment with bodies and components and all that I'm still having trouble transitioning from the inventor format

[@Neil3D]

Yea I found that too, I was trying to open components into second tabs like you do in Inventor and then just accepted the fact that this side of things is just another limitation of Fusion. They could change all these things to do what Inventor does, but then whats the point in Fusion if the goal is to make it exactly like something they already have

[@jackottinger6209]

I am trying to recreate this model in NX12. I am fairly confident that I can do so, but I have to run a finite element analysis on it for a project. Do you think this would be an accurate enough representation of the geometry for a reasonable stress and deformation analysis?

[@Zuurik_x]

You can also convert your model to mesh and export as obj from fusion360 and then import into tilt brush.

[@Neil3D]

Aye I've done that with Inventor models into Tilt Brush, it's amazing. VRED has the upper hand with the ability to use Python scripting to customise interactions and the real time texture/material adjustments, but weirdly I found that Tilt Brush handled bigger models better than VRED did, as soon as you turn on AA and ambient occlusion in VRED the Vive shuts down on my single GTX1070. Based on the minimal performance gap between that and a 1080, I suspect you'd need SLI 1080's as a minimum to get 90Hz per eye with good quality in VRED.

[@andrewkillian5877]

Thanks for the fusion video really appreciate it!

[@tomsbalodis3228]

How did you get vive to have controlers in VRED?

[@Zamir321]

Yes more car parts!!!! Thanks

[@CSW76]

Great Vid Neil, i think i still prefer Inventor over Fusion, the most interesting part was your use of VRED which looks complicated, i currently have VRED Pro but no idea how to use it.

[@Neil3D]

God yea it's clear Inventor is massively more capable, but for the price point Fusion is very very good. VRED is also a very capable bit of kit, I've had no training and everything I've done here is just quickly self taught stuff with some help from other tutorials and forum posts. Someone who knows what they're doing could make a much more impressive render in VRED that I can, there's so many settings for every area in there!

[@Briox77]

Song?

[@eastlight313]

Overall, which would you recommend learning , Fusion 360 or Inventor?

[@Neil3D]

Ah man, that's a properly hard question to answer, only last week I actually asked one of the Fusion 360 product managers how he would answer that question as it's such a tough one. I could and probably should do a video just dedicated to this question because it's a complicated answer. Are you a student? Are you looking to use what you learn to get a job in engineering or just to do home projects?

[@Neil3D]

So... heads up on what I'll be talking about in the future vid... right now Fusion 360 isn't really used by any major engineering companies, it'll be mostly small machining shops and small time companies who would have taken on Fusion at this point. As it stands, Fusion isn't good enough for big companies who design big products, so my answer would be learn Inventor if you want to look into getting experience on something that'll impress a future employer. The complication is the future, Autodesk are piling millions into Fusion and its development, so even though it doesn't make the grade right now... why would they be investing this much into Fusion if Autodesk didn't have BIG plans for it in the future, you don't spend this much on something, invest so much time and resource into something and be happy with it being second best. I think in the future, Fusion will take the lead after its had some major overhauls to allow it to be viable in major engineering companies, but until then Inventor is king. What doing this video has shown me is that if you know Inventor, you can pick up Fusion in minutes as it's a direct descendant of Inventor. So, the short answer to my long waffling is learn Inventor as that'll help you right now and maybe ~5 years from now, and it'll enable you to transition to Fusion when the time comes. Whereas if you learned Fusion and only Fusion, I don't think the move to Inventor would be so easy. So if you have the time and patience, get into Inventor, but keep Fusion installed as well and dip into that now and again to keep an eye on how it's progressing!

[@eastlight313]

Ok. Thanks for your time.

[@SermedAlWasiti]

Nathan Shin A good exercise, if you have time, would be to replicate something modeled in Inventor using Fusion 360, like what Neil did above, so you basically force yourself to learn and get experience in Fusion.

[@vyfastify]

hey Neil, I'm doing R8 in inventor. I'm having a blast time!!! just one thing bothers me: it is not being able to group things in part. there is an idea in autodesk community called "group features". just a quick thought, since you have a power of talking (wafling as you refer), and your channel is for real designers, like me (haha), maybe you could see into this, and possibly promote this idea.

[@Neil3D]

Group things as in put them into a folder in the browser to organise similar features?

[@vyfastify]

yes, bulseye

[@vyfastify]

sorry for my spellig :)

[@Neil3D]

Again I can't confirm or deny that this might be something that they're already working on!

[@vyfastify]

nobody can tell, except autodesk smart-asses. but if we keep quiet, nothing will happen ;)

[@vyfastify]

good tut. looking forward to learn fusion 360. 1 downside to this video, no wafling.. so i made it x2 speed and you look very fast :):) please wafle, this makes your videos not only useful, but also fun :) doodles

[@Neil3D]

Haha ok, noted! And the expression is "Toodles", it's short for the ridiculously English saying "Toodle Pip or Toodle-oo" haha

[@fixik179]

coll happened, many watched, but on the russian platform there is not much that is right. my english-bellissimo, but i speak only russian :-)