Yamaha XSR900 vs Kawasaki Z900RS! Which Retro Naked Should You Buy?

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@TopshelfJunior
@TopshelfJunior Жыл бұрын
Former SV650 owner, current Z900RS Cafe owner...and I absolutely LOVE it. Will try to keep it forever.
@farmoboy83
@farmoboy83 Жыл бұрын
after many years and many bikes still in love with my 2005 classic sv650. Thats a bike i am always willing to ride and its just absolutely perfect for my riding style and roads i use
@J2I3H
@J2I3H Жыл бұрын
​@@farmoboy83 first two generations (1999-2007) sv are the best, super lightweight with aluminium frame. Very good bikes
@Twin_solo_az
@Twin_solo_az Жыл бұрын
The Z900 reminds me of what bikes looked like when I first started noticing them, when I was a little kid. I honestly don’t remember bikes ever really looking like the XSR.
@dixinc.5507
@dixinc.5507 9 ай бұрын
You weren’t paying attention in the 80s.
@langhamp8912
@langhamp8912 9 ай бұрын
The XSR900 looks like an early 90's motorcycle that's been mildly crashed then rebuilt without fairings. I find it amazing that the 1st generation Honda CBR900RR weighs about 30 pounds more and makes less HP than the current XSR.
@SocalMotoRx
@SocalMotoRx 9 ай бұрын
@@dixinc.5507it doesn’t really look like an 80’s bike tho. Or a 90s bike.
@dixinc.5507
@dixinc.5507 9 ай бұрын
@@SocalMotoRx It looks like a Fazer without the fairings.
@dixinc.5507
@dixinc.5507 9 ай бұрын
@@SocalMotoRx It looks like a Yamaha TZ500 without the fairings.
@elvis_chen
@elvis_chen Жыл бұрын
Z900RS looks timeless, cannot be happier with it.
@SteveBlancoMusicianWarrior
@SteveBlancoMusicianWarrior Жыл бұрын
The Kawasaki is so gorgeous. Less tech rules. Just riding and the experience. I don't need to ride an iPhone around. Positive neutral also rules. Thanks for the video. Cheers 🥂
@michaels7499
@michaels7499 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I don't want all that tech crap. That is why I also own a Toyota 4 Runner. The more tech the more prone to problems and repair bills.
@SteveBlancoMusicianWarrior
@SteveBlancoMusicianWarrior Жыл бұрын
@@michaels7499 Yeah. I own a Kawasaki W800. Minimal tech. I love it.
@Voyager-077
@Voyager-077 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely 100% with you, iPhone on wheels, hahaha exactly!!!
@Dutch88able
@Dutch88able Жыл бұрын
Definitely not comparable to an iPhone. Doesn't even run Snake, like my old Nokia 3310 did.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
Kawi fan boys are so funny with their copes
@juliamiller2299
@juliamiller2299 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Z900RS SE this year. I loved its styling when I first saw it as it reminded me of the classic Z1 from the seventies. Yeah, I’m older and I’m not a squid and I prefer a more relaxed ride than a high performance ride. The Z900 suits me and I love it.
@HardlyaDavidson
@HardlyaDavidson Жыл бұрын
This bike seems awesome to me… It’s like a mullet, a little bit of party, little bit of business
@juliamiller2299
@juliamiller2299 Жыл бұрын
@@HardlyaDavidson The only thing I didn't like about the bike is the saddle was very uncomfortable. I ended up getting a Corbin solo saddle to replace it, and have no complaints now.
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 9 ай бұрын
Agree - but hey, it's not like the the z900rs, especially the SE!, totally loses on the performance front. It 'sports' quite well!
@juliamiller2299
@juliamiller2299 9 ай бұрын
@@stratolestele7611 I agree there too. Although it's not a crotch rocket, 110 hp gets the job done and the fat range isn't at red line, but at 6-9k rpm. I never have to take it to redline.
@realbigtuna667
@realbigtuna667 Жыл бұрын
Went with the Z900RS Cafe. More forward leaning riding position than the base RS and the cowl keeps the wind off your chest extremely well. Dropped about 20 lbs off the bike with an aftermarket header and tail tidy, then sent the ECU out for a flash to close the power gap between the two. Absolutely love it.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
So you bought the uglier bike with the more boring engine and wanted to tell the world about it? Strange
@nomadenview
@nomadenview Жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw mad bro?
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
@NOMADEN VIEW buddy comments on a 2 week old reply asking if I'm mad. Nah little fella, but I'm sorry your feelings are hurt or something
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 Жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw ​ first off, looks are highly subjective, so calling one uglier then the other is ridiculous. Some also don’t want a more high strung engine, they want the linear feel of a classic inline 4 with it’s more narrow cam profile. If you gave me the option, I would take the XSR900 over the Z900 RS. But if it was a base MT09 vs a base Z900, I’d take the Z900 as it’s running a different cam profile and tune then the RS, it revs harder in typical modern i4 fashion and is a bit faster then the MT09, specifically in a rolling start… also the standard Z900 is a bit more leaned forward, which I prefer over the more motard seating position of an MT09…
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
@Sleeper.Simulant neither I nor anyone with a clue cares about your novel you just typed. The z900rs is a sad bike.
@jimmymc10021
@jimmymc10021 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Z'd purely because of the looks, it does ride great too but every time I go into my garage I smile just looking at it. When I'm out riding I've been surprised how many comments it gets from other riders...all positive BTW. I'm sure the Yamaha is excellent because the MT is a fantastic bike but I've not had a chance to ride the XSR yet. Great review, thanks for taking the time to test both.
@sonnyseabury4051
@sonnyseabury4051 6 ай бұрын
Same for me. I loved the vintage KZ's as a young kid growing up in the early 70's. The Z900 is the best of both worlds, being vintage looking with modern performance. I like motorcycles that look like Real Motorcycles. I don't like the space age looking modern bikes. I know, if somebody has the cash and the desire, that this bike can be hopped up and modded quite a bit, to get some pretty impressive performance out of it. I currently own a 1985 Yamaha 2 stroke RZ 350 Kenny Roberts bike, restored from the frame up. It runs like an unmedicated bipolar raped ape, but I definitely want a cafe style looking Kawasaki Z 900 retro bike.
@djf7380
@djf7380 Жыл бұрын
I've ridden both. If you're looking at it, Z900RS. If you're riding it, XSR900.
@klausoberlander8312
@klausoberlander8312 8 ай бұрын
I agree you
@tkx86
@tkx86 5 ай бұрын
If you are doing both. Bonne Speed Twin 1200
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 4 ай бұрын
But the 4 cylinder bro. It also has a good looking exhaust that makes the rebel 300 exhuast look like temu amazon junk
@TheCrazyBird844
@TheCrazyBird844 4 ай бұрын
@@tkx86Disagree, it needs service 2x as often as the Yamaha, less top end power than both, more expensive than both, and sounds worse than either the triple or the i4
@NoName-c4y7h
@NoName-c4y7h 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheCrazyBird844That would be a deal breaker, as I ride nearly 15k miles per year. Thanks, Safe Travels.✌️
@KB-yj5xp
@KB-yj5xp Жыл бұрын
Ive put 65,000 km on my z900rs and I still love it like I just got it.
@PatrickBuckley-ol2ok
@PatrickBuckley-ol2ok 8 ай бұрын
Finally escaped Area 51?
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 4 ай бұрын
​@@PatrickBuckley-ol2okno hes from new mexico crash landed in the desert
@leviefrauim1425
@leviefrauim1425 Жыл бұрын
Z900RS, every day. It's a gorgeous bike, one that can be ridden all day and then stared at when parked. It's got perfect lines and shapes. Also has one of the best sounding stock exhausts on a modern bike. Have 2WDWs flash the ECU to eliminate the throttle cut, add a Kaoko throttle lock and go... It's the ultimate, modern UJM.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
Wish i was rich
@techjunkie4786
@techjunkie4786 Жыл бұрын
It is indeed a gorgeous bike, but my 2nd gen XSR900 is a do everything bike. All my friends are jealous of its quality. It feels like every nut and bolt was engineered to perfection. Meanwhile, my brother had to take his brand new Z900 back to the dealer to get its battery draining problem fixed (had to schedule an appointment).
@ed.t.hansen6499
@ed.t.hansen6499 5 ай бұрын
too hot, too big for this area and traffice. when temps are 80 to 95 degF typically. The RS gets hot.
@Desertfox92308
@Desertfox92308 Жыл бұрын
I have owned 3 cylinder and 4 cylinder UJM's throughout the late 70's and 80's. I would definitely lean towards the Kawasaki. I loved my '84 GPZ 550! My Suzuki GS 750 ES and GS 1000 were also in my garage and loved those bikes.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
Yikes
@admireinspire
@admireinspire Жыл бұрын
After 6 months waiting ive finally gotten my xsr900. Never really watched any of the z900 videos wasnt interested but even just the quick shots you guys did between bikes actually made me get it. Both of these bikes are incredible and i like that you can choose your era and have a great time either way.
@ganuvien
@ganuvien Жыл бұрын
Honestly.... No bike can replace the fun of the CP3 in the XSR900 for me with a proper tune and full exhaust system. I regret trading mine in and hoping the R9 comes out or i'll just find a new gen 2nd hand.
@boris2997
@boris2997 Жыл бұрын
Wait until the XSR 900 GP comes out. That's what iam waiting for.
@ganuvien
@ganuvien Жыл бұрын
@@boris2997 Yeah the only problem is we haven't seen any confirmation on these bikes for sure 😭. That's why I'm holding out for hopefully any news of a release date.
@hiddendragon415
@hiddendragon415 Жыл бұрын
@@ganuvien The R9 is pretty much confirmed.
@gsm_liv8980
@gsm_liv8980 6 ай бұрын
What do you think about the XSR GP now? Would you get it if possible?
@ganuvien
@ganuvien 6 ай бұрын
if it was sold here in the U.S. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I've always wanted a sportier version.
@wymotome
@wymotome Жыл бұрын
I'm an 80s kid and I just can't get into that Yamaha styling. It's a very awkward "retro" look and if I didn't know the intent of the bike I might not even guess what it was going for. The kawasaki, however, has clearly knocked it out of the park. Sit it next to an original z900 and its pretty clear how well kawasaki achieved what they were after. It's the type of bike in a sea of modern that just stands out in a showroom.
@JGreenwood238
@JGreenwood238 Жыл бұрын
Man, I just can’t get onboard with the look of the new XSR, the previous generation looked so good too. & as much as I loved the CP3 in my 2016 FZ, I think I would rather have the Z900RS in this case.
@johannesmaas4080
@johannesmaas4080 6 ай бұрын
the Kawasaki 4 cylinder is butter smooth and fun to ride. the cp3 from Yamaha is a hooligan machine which will rip your arms of... both owned a z900 as well as an mt09. Loved the torque from the mt09 and at the same time was annoyed by the cp3 sound at lower revs.
@Mickey_Bauer
@Mickey_Bauer Жыл бұрын
I love both but i think Z900RS would be my choice, based on styling, comfort and riding position. I love the classic dual analog gauges and the big round headlight. It also sound very nice stock although inline triples also sound amazing with an aftermarket exhaust.
@jimmythedrummerbrooks6172
@jimmythedrummerbrooks6172 Жыл бұрын
The tameness you're feeling in second gear is actually an emissions restriction. I have this bike. Put it in D mode 1 and crack the throttle wide open at 4,000 RPM in second gear and then try it again in 3rd gear. You will notice that 3rd gear pulls way harder. Even with that second gear weirdness I have loved my 6 months with the xsr900. First gear pulls are so fun. The beginning of the video the pull you did was definitely half throttle. If You Leave It Wide Open that front end lifts up pretty hard in the cold.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын
That power cut is also to keep the front wheel on the ground, I suspect it's not there with TCS turned off ... but if you actually tried that the bike is likely to loop
@hiddendragon415
@hiddendragon415 Жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 I do think there is a bit of a flat spot initially also due to Euro 5
@CCitis
@CCitis Жыл бұрын
ECU tune will take care of that
@momchilyordanov8190
@momchilyordanov8190 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous bikes. My pick is the Kawi, but one cannot go wrong here!
@old_dan
@old_dan 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 Z900RS Cafe. Yes, it's not as light as other bikes but you only feel that weight when you're pushing the bike around, not when you're riding. I dropped the stock catalytic converter and that was 15 to 20 lbs, easy and it made quite a difference in both sound and riding feel. I'm looking to buy another bike but I'm not getting rid of this bike, probably ever.
@gsm_liv8980
@gsm_liv8980 6 ай бұрын
These two bikes target different customer groups. If you want a bike that brings you back to the past, but has bells and whistles of a modern bike, a bike that has that timeless classic look and gives you the impression of UJMs, and if you do not care much about specs, then the Z RS is definitely the answer. In my opinion the XSR is for people who want for a good-looking performance bike, like me.
@bun.touring
@bun.touring 29 күн бұрын
The XSR900 is a pretty good bike too. Great bike to ride and great design! And of course the Z900RS is a great bike.
@robbyclark6915
@robbyclark6915 Жыл бұрын
In the looks department, it’s not even close! The cow is faaar and away a better looking motorcycle! The Yamaha looks kinda weird. I’m sure it runs and rides great, but I don’t think I could ever pick it over the Kawasaki just based on looks. Comfort is also a much bigger deal to me than 50lbs and a few hp. I like that torque down low too. Thanks for the review! I’m buying a second bike sometime this year and the Kawasaki is high on the list after watching this!
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
It's just so funny how untrue your entire goofy paragraph is
@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου
@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου Жыл бұрын
Kawasaki any time, any day
@kentucky_brew3678
@kentucky_brew3678 10 ай бұрын
@@DB-sd3cwhuh? The Yamaha is ugly asf
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 10 ай бұрын
@kentucky_brew3678 kawi looks like a fugly retro headlight attacked to a giant cockroach abdomen but you're entitled to your wrong and low IQ opinion
@kugangles9860
@kugangles9860 Жыл бұрын
Big selling point of the Yamaha for me is the cruise control. CC is a game changer if you do longer trips.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын
The XSR is also less effort to ride fast, it already puts you in basically a sport touring riding position, and the QS and better electronics are two less things to think about. It would be a pretty effortless bike to ride in the canyons
@hiddendragon415
@hiddendragon415 Жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 I have a MT09 SP "22 and the smooth quick shifter for me was game changing. Makes changing up or down super quick and effortless.
@noviomagus5852
@noviomagus5852 Жыл бұрын
Last year I rented several bikes for a day as I was looking for something new to buy and wanted to use the oppurtunity to make extended test rides on different bikes. From all the retro style bikes available the Z900RS is the most appealing to me in terms of looks. I really enjoyed riding it, great sound for a stock exhaust and more than enough power for me. However my previous and only bike was also a 4 cylinder and I just wanted a change. I tried about 10 different bikes and as I was trying to decide between the T100 and XSR700 I decided to give the XSR900 a go as I had heard good things about the CP3 engine. Within the first few minutes I knew this was the bike for me. Still don't think it's as pretty as the Kawasaki, especially the dash is ugly in comparison. But the seating position and 3 cylinder engine are the main reasons I chose the Yamaha. That said the Z900RS is gorgeous and I do hope to own one some day
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын
The XSR rides more like a lightweight sport tourer than a twitchy AF hooligan bike like the MT-09. I suspect the Z900RS is more work to ride fast due to the bolt upright riding position, you'll need to deliberately weight the front end more.
@juliamiller2299
@juliamiller2299 11 ай бұрын
To me, it looks like the XSR is a bike that was in an accident, and they took off the fairing. It just looks incomplete with an ugly front end, though it handles well.
@tomcooney183
@tomcooney183 Жыл бұрын
The XSR looks like an 80s superbike that someone crashed and ripped the fairing off and then just chucked a random round headlight on that was lying around the workshop
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
Like a 80s streetfighter then.😆
@seriousandy6656
@seriousandy6656 Жыл бұрын
I've got the Z900RS, but wouldn't mind trying the XSR. I will say the RS is a fantastic bike....
@mexifry222
@mexifry222 Жыл бұрын
I like the technology on Yamaha but you can't beat the looks and comfortability of z900rs. Love my 2018, wish it had quick shifter and cruise control though! First bike I've never wanted to put a slip on. Sounds amazing.
@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου
@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, the z900 is the only bike i wouldn't change a thing on. Looks amazing, sounds amazing, rides amazing.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
Yes quickshifter cruise control. I think the entire rebel lineup needs cruise control as an option. From the 300 to the 1100. Gotta get with the times bro. The grom needs a bigger engine option
@macsmotors
@macsmotors Жыл бұрын
I was debating between the two and I ultimately went for the Z900RS. Hopefully pick mine up tomorrow! The XSR is cheaper, has more kit, and will be more fun to ride, but the Z900RS looks so much better, has a MUCH better stock exhaust, was more comfortable to sit on (I only rode the Z900RS, not the XSR), and ultimately was more my style. The Yamaha is a beaut in the blue and gold but the frame is hideous and the exhaust is fugly. I'm sure I'd love either bike but the Zed just drew me in so much more.
@zaintime001
@zaintime001 Жыл бұрын
Good choice. Originally wanted the xsr but the plastics on it is ugly as hell. Doesn’t really look retro to me and the seat is atrocious. Went with the z900rs.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that Sonauto blue scheme is awesome, and very iconic, but what were Yamaha thinking with that seat? maybe it will grow on me.
@weiwei1808
@weiwei1808 10 ай бұрын
Exhaust is fugly
@allanmoger1838
@allanmoger1838 Жыл бұрын
The Z900RS’s flaws are also a weird attraction for many of the people Kawasaki are targeting with the bike. It is rife for modification, as were the original 70’s bikes it is modeled after, and there’s many aftermarket parts available for it. I don’t have a snatchy throttle but I do have about 120 HP, excellent brakes, amazing suspension and a bike that is the best looking retro bike you can buy today. I am well used to riding without aides and that alone makes the experience on the Z the winner anyway.
@hakankillberg6043
@hakankillberg6043 Жыл бұрын
Like the looks of the Kawa better. Still there so much negative coments out there about the snatchy throttle respons on the Kawa. You didnt mentioned that at all
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo Жыл бұрын
Probably because the xsr also has a snatchy throttle.
@freebehindbars8654
@freebehindbars8654 Жыл бұрын
That triple torque curve sells itself.
@michaels7499
@michaels7499 Жыл бұрын
I've not noticed a snatchy throttle on the one I just bought. I bought the RS Cafe and engine tune is slightly different than the RS.
@arieldomingo1692
@arieldomingo1692 Жыл бұрын
Snatchy throtle before 1k kms PMS but after that throttle is smooth like butter
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu Жыл бұрын
Z900RS for me. 😉 Perfect review. Could tell me what I needed to know that a spec sheet won't.
@Lucafeb
@Lucafeb Жыл бұрын
I have a z900rs a great bike . Best purchase ever. I question why in the test drive the z900rs was with the KTC at 2 ( I use it when rains ) and not at 1 that it is the standard
@aham3476
@aham3476 Жыл бұрын
Z900 is definitely my next bike! LOVE IT!
@daveodo4315
@daveodo4315 Жыл бұрын
I hands down prefer the looks and sound of the Kawasaki.
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge Жыл бұрын
Oh I remember riding nights. The night ride emphasizes rider perspectives and vehicle perspectives on a course with transitions from well lit through fares into a charming main street cruise at local towns.
@CoberBox1
@CoberBox1 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching comparisons of these two bikes for the last year. Still can’t make up my mind which one is better looking. I prefer the stance and overall form of the Yamaha but that Kawasaki just has a visually more emotional vibe that out classes all other bikes in this segment, at least IMO.
@martinowings3597
@martinowings3597 Жыл бұрын
Im waiting for Kawasaki to do a 900 Ninja/GPZ style retro. That would be awesome.
@sjk8273
@sjk8273 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I purchased a GPZ900R(A2) in 86' and now own a Z900RS, which I love. It's practically perfect for my lifestyle and what is now a way more relaxed riding style. BUT, if they bought out a retro-styled GPZ I suspect I'd swop it out in a heartbeat.
@1483TBird
@1483TBird Жыл бұрын
Top Gun Theme
@stevenkruse5746
@stevenkruse5746 Жыл бұрын
$2k & 50# difference is huge. Again Yamaha is king barring the exhaust 😮 Thanks Y'all, enjoyed.
@toradog5719
@toradog5719 9 ай бұрын
Only drawback to the Japanese high winders is high frequency buzz due to the high rpms. The engines are hard mounted, so you're going to get plenty of "Engine feel".
@wirenut3020
@wirenut3020 Жыл бұрын
I own an RS. Suspension upgrades, new tires, an exhaust for 20 hp gain and 16 pound weight loss and an ecu flash and it’s one keeper of a machine that keeps you turning your head back as you’re walking away from it.
@JoeStanek-vu7rl
@JoeStanek-vu7rl Жыл бұрын
20% hp gain from a better exhaust? Put down the bong dude.
@pcthayer
@pcthayer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I had a XS850 3 cyl back in 1980 so was leaning towards the XSR900, but after your review I think the Z900RS may suit my riding style and needs much better but wish the Kawa was a little lighter. Again thanks for this comparison.
@wirenut3020
@wirenut3020 Жыл бұрын
Changing the exhaust will save 16 pounds and pick up almost 20 hp whilst removing the snatchy throttle with a remapped ecu.
@CaptainDangeax
@CaptainDangeax Жыл бұрын
The Z900RS is the most beautiful bike on the market, able to revive the legendary Z1 from 1972. Kawasaki mailed it 50 years ago, and still today. The Zephyr 750 was also great... I own a Versys 1000 for touring and a SV1000S for track days, no room for a Z900RS, although a café version makes me chill. After watching the video, my opinion about the Yamaha is they missed the subject. Riding a retro bike is not just about the look, it's about a group of a lot of things: the look, the round speedo, the position, the feelings, the pace... Yamaha just put a somewhat retro design on a bike very close to a very modern MT, while Kawasaki went into the details to deliver the most retro package: the look from the Z1 including the dashboard, the comfy suspensions like in old times, the torquey engine to roll gently ... Seriously, who wants to rev up an engine on a motorbike without a fender?
@ecirlos4601
@ecirlos4601 9 ай бұрын
The XSR has that retro futuristic look that I just love. I guess it’s all about taste. Many people don’t like it but I think it has it all in a package that the z900 lacks. Just a different person opinion.
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 9 ай бұрын
A little over a year ago, I had the choice of where to spend my cash (in hand) and I chose the z900rs café and I haven't regretted my decision for even a split second. I agree that the XSR is a fun ride, but that's it. It looks cobbled together to me. I respect it, but if I wanted more performance - and for less $$, I would have gotten the z900. I especially love seeing those chrome headers coming out and down - just as they did on the Z-1 back in the day. Plus it looks hot-rodded 4-1 pipe as many did back in the day. Anyway, I fully expected to get the Speed Twin, but it just looked bland to me. I LOVE the Thruxton (a lot!), but at my age, I can't do the clip-ons. Man, I sure liked looking at it though. Anyway, I have touched my z900rs (other than the basics - frame sliders, tail tidy, and neatly powered phone mount ). But, while I might get around to it one of these days, I have done the intake pipes, and tune. It just doesn't scream for it for me. I spent 25 years riding Harleys, so this Kawi is still feeling like a rocket for me anyway. I've never gotten more random comments than I do on the z900rs café. I like the regular model as much as the café - almost. The café is a slight compromise with the slightly lower black bars and more aggressive seat and overall looks; a little sportier. Great, great bike!
@hyedefinition1080
@hyedefinition1080 Жыл бұрын
Really wanted the XSR 900, was impossible to find one last year...saw a new Z900RS Cafe with huge discount and went with that instead. Surprisingly surprised by how well it handlea, sounds, and looks true retro. The Café has a slightly sporty stance over the well-behaved characteristics of the bike. I do wish Kawasaki added cruise control. They've claimed more tech will take from the retro flair, it's profit paddiny by Kawasaki; I don't think CC takes away from it's retro motif like maybe a quickshifter would.
@Ringer1982
@Ringer1982 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I also miss the cruise control. But it doesn't have the CC simply because the Z900 platform at that time didn't have "ride by wire", not because it takes something from the retro feel.
@pookiewookie7679
@pookiewookie7679 Жыл бұрын
Plus it actually looks great unlike the Yamaha
@hyedefinition1080
@hyedefinition1080 Жыл бұрын
@@Ringer1982 yes you're right about the throttle cables, don't think that platform has added cruise control yet...just marketing spin by Kawasaki... In 2023, an inexcusable omission for the price point and seeing that generally older riders buy this bike (I'm mid-30s)
@hyedefinition1080
@hyedefinition1080 Жыл бұрын
@@pookiewookie7679 not gonna lie, was set on the XSR900 (great tech + blue color scheme matched my car exactly). But gave up trying after 2-3 months and jumped on the solid deal for the 22' Z900RS Cafe...no regrets! Might still get the XSR when the used market opens up.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын
It would cost them very little to add the IMU and cruise control from the Ninja 1000, it's the same engine save for 100cc of displacement. The bike is already stupidly overpriced compared to the XSR
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
The weight difference is an absolute deal killer for the Z900 I mean I am looking at the XSR as a second bike to play on in the canyons because my Tracer 9 is pretty heavy. I am also spoiled on the Tracer's tech which mostly the XSR has so as pretty as the Z900 is? you can keep it! and btw the REAL retro feeling this Yamaha provides for me is more Yamaha's old 2 stroke RD and RZ 350cc motorcycles that were light and peppy and just a blast to shoot around on. I personally DID own a Z1 and it was nice to ride but big and heavy nowhere near as fun as my little RD but I will say the Z1 felt a lot more like it would last a long time not as disposable as the RDs which frankly cost a lot less too
@gabrieltiso8537
@gabrieltiso8537 Жыл бұрын
Weight is always a strong consideration for me as well. As much as I appreciate the asthenic of some of the bikes the priority is on fun factor. More than a few comments suggest you wouldn't know that one was heavier than the other while riding though
@bcab7955
@bcab7955 Жыл бұрын
This gen XSR 900 looks a bit like a cobbled together 80s race bike, its a bit crude, a little Mad Max, and right up my alley.
@bojangles1030
@bojangles1030 Жыл бұрын
Rode both, plus a speed twin.....then bought an RS. Nuff said 😊
@braaaaaaaaaaap
@braaaaaaaaaaap Жыл бұрын
You can be in any gear on the XSR and get roll on power esp with an ecu flash. I can pull 6th from the high 20s and I'm 260lbs.
@Battousaithebootyslayer
@Battousaithebootyslayer Жыл бұрын
Yeah. My cp3 has power all the way through from low to high rpms.
@imthatguy1878
@imthatguy1878 6 ай бұрын
I bought the 2023 black and gold cafe z900 and at my age it'll be my last bike, does everything i want in a bike
@pauldark3044
@pauldark3044 Жыл бұрын
The looks on the Kawi already makes it a classic, but I own one to🤣
@Robert8455
@Robert8455 Жыл бұрын
Nothing about the Yamaha strikes me as retro. The Kawasaki wins in the looks dept. I do like the inline 4, the chrome and even though its a bit more porky and not as much peak HP as the Yamaha, I think its a better cruiser, especially if you take anyone for a ride. Great review.
@lcdubs7847
@lcdubs7847 Жыл бұрын
The XSR900 is a great bike, with a fantastic motor, but it doesn't look like a retro. It doesn't really have anything in common with any models from the past. The Z900, however, is a proper retro, and looks fantastic.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
Apart from the paint job.
@HaggisPower
@HaggisPower 4 ай бұрын
Obviously you never rode ANY 80-90 Yamahas.
@bigbadvicHo
@bigbadvicHo 6 ай бұрын
What about the T120 Bonneville? Can that be comparable to these? Love the look of that bike
@michaeldavis5775
@michaeldavis5775 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 66 year old rider, and I always liked the Z1's. I'll be buying a z900 rs se soon. I'm sure the yamaha is a nice bike(one of my bikes is a 1977 RD 400), but I just don't like the angular styling on the Yamaha.
@repsol6198
@repsol6198 Жыл бұрын
I would take the Kawasaki all day long, the Yamaha is Fugly !
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 Жыл бұрын
The Zed has more torque in more places than the z900. Yami likely feels faster because the power comes on so suddenly. I'm not sure that it's significantly faster, if at all (haven't seen the data), but coming out of a corner, I want a smooth and predictable power curve. I am positive that I would love riding the Yamaha. That blue tank? I love it! However, when I pan back, I just can't find a way to like it. Somehow, it reminds me of a mantis. I see no cohesion in the styling. But yeah, I think that little powerhouse of an engine is beastly and engaging. I know I would love it. I've got the z900rs café and I don't want to get off it. When it's parked, I can't stop looking at it. I often walk into the garage and just stare at it. The paint is flawless. I specifically wanted the black and gold, and was lucky enough to find a new one locally. Now that I'm riding again, I'll be adding another retro style ride to the Zed. Maybe a Triumph. Whatever it is, it has to be totally different. I've owned all the Japanese bikes, but Suzuki, but the vast majority of my riding has been on Harley big twins.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
That blue scheme on the Yamaha is based on the Sonauto Yamahas of the 80s, Sonauto was France's Yamaha importers and along with Gauloises there colour scheme was on many Yamaha road race and Paris Dakar race bikes in the 80s and 90s, its as iconic in Europe as the Black Yellow Yamaha colours are in the U.S. I'm looking at a Z900RS Cafe at the moment, in Green and white, i rode both these bikes and the Kawasaki suits me better, plus it looks awesome. Its a shame the U.S didn't get the Yamaha MT 01, thats one of my other bikes and its a blast, I'm sure it would have sold well there.
@iodineclip
@iodineclip Жыл бұрын
Style wise, the XSR900 looks awesome, until you park it beside the Z900RS.
@fahimsiddique828
@fahimsiddique828 5 ай бұрын
That Kawasaki looks gorgeous!
@Rhetorical346
@Rhetorical346 Жыл бұрын
The 2016-2021 XSR900s look so much better than the refresh. What were they thinking?
@klausoberlander8312
@klausoberlander8312 8 ай бұрын
I agree you. I have one from 2018 in red.
@stevelamotte5505
@stevelamotte5505 3 ай бұрын
I have the 2016 XSR900 60th anniversary, I love it!
@HuevosAzules
@HuevosAzules Жыл бұрын
I very much like the styling of the xsr. I like having modern features as well.
@officermalloy4201
@officermalloy4201 Жыл бұрын
Z900RS Needed new tires to bring it alive, changed oil to synthetic and now I love it. Wife and I got Vulcan 900 Classic LT's for the highway.
@andrewcostanzo3066
@andrewcostanzo3066 8 ай бұрын
I️ had a Vulcan 900 classic and I️ put touring accessories on it and hated it on the highway it has no power. I’m getting a z900rs cafe for better commuting ect
@flatcapcaferacer
@flatcapcaferacer Жыл бұрын
Not a clean line on tne Yamaha to me, it looks like a bunch of parts just tacked on. The cafe racer version of the Yamaha is a big improvement to my eye and worth a look. The Kawasaki looks very nice from any angle. Most classically styled are bought for outright performance or handling. Looks, styling and comfort with just enough of performance. I disagree that most old folks would buy retro styled bikes mainly as time machines if they did they would likely have an RD350, R90S, or 750H2. It is true bikes with certain looks appeal to different generation but us old folks want to spend more time riding than wrenching on time machines. I still race as well as ride at 70 and find many others my age do too.
@natwat77
@natwat77 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the series on the Triumph Speed Twin? That would’ve been a worthwhile addition to this comparison.
@Xwii610
@Xwii610 Жыл бұрын
XSR blows the RS out of the water. So much tech on the XSR.
@wyootto264
@wyootto264 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the XSR looks like ass. If it’s purely performance you’re after the XSR beats the RS. But then if it’s purely performance you want, why look at either of these bikes? The RS kills the XSR in the looks department. I own one, I might be biased!😁
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын
@@wyootto264 you also need to accept that the RS is VERY overpriced for what you get, it's in Ducati and Triumph retro bike price range.
@wyootto264
@wyootto264 Жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 It is pricy but it has more power than the Italian and British counterparts and it looks better than all of the competitors and still has Japanese quality! Obviously, worth the extra coin in my book, but to each their own! No judgement from me if someone rides and loves their XSR! I’m personally just not down with the way it looks. That’s on me!
@tarnishedsquid2967
@tarnishedsquid2967 Жыл бұрын
Right it's not even close imo. This is the best *retro* bike out rn to me because it actually rips. The others are more hipster cruise down to coffee shop kind of machines.
@Xwii610
@Xwii610 Жыл бұрын
@@tarnishedsquid2967 I've ridden both a z900 and the MT09. And the mt09 is better than the Z in every single aspect, other than maybe top end. Torque kicks harder on the mt09, feels better in the corners, tech is better. Even the rain mode is better. On the mt09 rain mode feels very relaxed, smooth roll on for the power. The z900 rain mode still has a very jerky throttle. The yamaha is just 100% better.
@the_jarmel
@the_jarmel Жыл бұрын
🙏LOVE THESE TYPE OF VIDEOS .. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THEM OUT AND ABOUT WHEN THE WEATHER GOT GOOD ENOUGH 🙏.. LOVE THE ENTERTAINMENT, ALEX,KASE 🙏 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FRIDAY EVERYONE ✌️
@thebigguy8306
@thebigguy8306 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, Kase, and nice seeing Alex in front of the camera. Good review, but I'll stick with my Triumph Bonneville T120, has been a great bike.
@jlsracing997
@jlsracing997 10 ай бұрын
I love the engine on the XSR as it's a triple and the sound they make is amazing, the rest of the bike I could care less about. I have an XS 750 and a ZRX 1100 and have always owned both brands, but I started on Kawasaki's and I had a Z1.There isn't anything on the Z900RS that I don't like. Big plus is the analog gauges and the styling which the Yamaha totally misses.
@Steve-go6oq
@Steve-go6oq Жыл бұрын
I have a Yamaha XS 1.1 but would hop brands to the Kawasaki.
@Sr.D
@Sr.D Жыл бұрын
Man, if the z900rs just have the four exhausts and dual shocks on the back would be just perfect, perfect homage to the 70's Z1 and more direct competition for the Bonneville, v7 and alikes
@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου
@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου Жыл бұрын
I wasn't alive back then so I could be wrong but someone older told me that the single exhaust is a homage to the tuning culture of that time as they'd replace the four exhausts with a single
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
Remember the four exhaust Z1000 they did back in 03, you never see them around much.
@winkeemanley1820
@winkeemanley1820 Жыл бұрын
I would love to buy the Z900RS if it had 4 exhausts like the original Z1. I had a 1978 Z1000.
@carlatamanczyk3891
@carlatamanczyk3891 10 ай бұрын
Like the way the Z900 pulls from 2500 rpm on up. That is more preferable for an older rider.
@thinkingimpaired5663
@thinkingimpaired5663 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if an ecu and pipe would really open up the power band on the XSR900, especially at the lower rpm. Back in the 80s many people would make 70s bikes to look and ride like the XSR900. Would you consider a part 2 with canyon carving and in town traffic review of the two bikes?
@birddogz545
@birddogz545 Жыл бұрын
Taking the bike out of rain mode would help the most
@thinkingimpaired5663
@thinkingimpaired5663 Жыл бұрын
@birddogz545 yeah I wish they did a mode 1 evaluation.
@hiddendragon415
@hiddendragon415 Жыл бұрын
ECU, pipe and modifying the air filter box with a bigger air filter opens up the MT09 so would also on the XSR
@helgejohan3604
@helgejohan3604 Жыл бұрын
Sport mode Xsr more fast and raw then the blend z900🔥✊✊
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
Modern bikes are hampered by noise and emission regs, so it REALLY pays to have them set up on a dyno, not just with peak power, but all through the curve and part throttle openings.
@Jagshemasher
@Jagshemasher 3 ай бұрын
I love the Z900 for its retro looks but for me the XSR simply does not look remotely like a retro bike (I rode in the 70's and 80's). I'd pick the MT-09 or MT-09 SP over the XSR and for my taste the MT's are better looking. Both engines are peaches - I own both a Yamaha and Kawasaki and consider myself to be brand agnostic - all Japanese manufacturers have bikes that appeal to me and ones that do not appeal to me.
@hhplymouth9473
@hhplymouth9473 Жыл бұрын
The Yamaha is ugly the Kawasaki looks much better. I had a 73 900 Kawasaki it was a great bike. Back then we did not need traction control or abs. You called them naked bikes I call them normal bikes.
@rtzzz9772
@rtzzz9772 Ай бұрын
Sat down on a XSR900 for 10 mins at the dealership, wow that seat is very, very, crazy hard and unforgiving. Like in an automobile, seats are an important part of the suspension for the occupants. No way to stay on the XSR for hour or two without your ass wanting a divorce. Immediately turned and purchased the kawi instead and absolutely Love it. Not certain I understand the reason everyone wants a quick shifter, I personally ride a motorcycle so I can shift. Never liked the automatic idea, have one on previous GSX1000GT (which is also great bike), but always feels lazy using it. But if the quick shifter is the determining factor for you, can be purchased and installed for $400 all in.
@mariodesmo
@mariodesmo Жыл бұрын
I owned a Yamaha two stroke for many, many years, rode the wheels of that thing. I also owned and rode a KZ900 back in the day for many years. Today though, I just can't throw a leg over that new Yami. It's just plain ugly with that headlight, holes in the brackets, funky seat, and color. Trying to be retro, but with a modern slant doesn't make it for me. I've got my eye on that new Z900RS.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
The colour is awesome, very iconic 80s/90s Yamaha colour scheme.
@siamsunsets6464
@siamsunsets6464 Жыл бұрын
in 10 years time the Kawi will hold a better price. This is a once-in-a-lifetime bike.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
Google Kawasaki Zephyr, (which is a copy/tribute of the Kawasaki Z1) its not the first time they have made a retro like this.
@vishakr7194
@vishakr7194 Жыл бұрын
For bikes looks matter a lot and old school design of Kawasaki suits best, too many techs doesn't matter much especially for retro bikes
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance Жыл бұрын
The Yamaha is barley retro, and isn't detuned like a lot of retro bikes. It is a naked sport bike. Both modern machines, but go about their business differently.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
@@anxiousappliance I honestly have no idea why its had the "retro" tag applied to it.
@Albert-my3yt
@Albert-my3yt 20 күн бұрын
Its hard to decide between these 2 bikes. I absolutely love both of em and if I had the money, I'd have both of em in my garage. 😊
@RiderXp
@RiderXp Жыл бұрын
I have ridden both back to back and while I wholeheartedly appreciate Kawasaki's attempt to make the Z900RS look and ride like a bike from the 70s, when riding the Z900RS, I just couldn't shake off the feeling that the engine still does behave like a modern inline 4 that has been artificially neutered. I already have an Inline 4 Kawasaki and the best place for that type of engine is a race track and that's where I keep my ZX6R. For the street, one needs an interesting engine character and that comes from VTwins, 270 degree Parallel Twins and a few Triples. The XSR900 happens to be that Triple which has a very interesting and engaging character. I do not love the 2022 XSR purely for the looks and the overkill of tech so I actually went with a 2021 XSR900 after riding the 2022 XSR900 & 2021 Z900RS back to back. An ownership review is coming on my channel pretty soon.
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 Жыл бұрын
I think the Kawasaki hit the mark better on retro styling. I also thing the gauges are hands down better on the Kawasaki. Analog speedometer and tachometer are just so much better. I think Yamaha is better with the quick shifter and cruise control which you failed to mention. The Yamaha looks a lot smaller when they are compared side by side. Also the Yamaha is throttle by wire and the Kawasaki is cable throttle. Might be why the Kawasaki is a bit smoother on the throttle. I also think the exhaust looks so much better on the Kawasaki. Definitely would have to change the exhaust on the Yamaha. With all that said I would probably choose the Yamaha mainly because of the cruise and quick shifter. I also like that it weighs less and has a bit more hooligan to it. Just too bad that I couldn't do anything about that horrible dash.
@GEN084
@GEN084 Жыл бұрын
For that price and seeking point for young and old needs quick shifter up and down
@petroosabdollahian1648
@petroosabdollahian1648 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, both great machines enough power, beautiful looks & styling. SXR is a better choice in my opinion because it has comprehensive electronics such as IMU, traction control, lift control, Quickshifter, cruis control.... for less money Anyway great video Be safe
@kikoy08
@kikoy08 6 ай бұрын
Here in the Philippines, XSR900 is more expensive than kawasaki around 1,500 USD to 2,000 USD difference
@toddlippin1281
@toddlippin1281 Жыл бұрын
$2,000 price difference is not insignificant. Otherwise, great feedback on both.
@robertoyluisdejesus503
@robertoyluisdejesus503 Жыл бұрын
With that money you can buy a full exhaust, ECU tuned and one or two dyno visits or just save it but it is significant.
@siamsunsets6464
@siamsunsets6464 Жыл бұрын
Not for a boomer that the Kawasaki is aiming for.
@michaels7499
@michaels7499 Жыл бұрын
@@siamsunsets6464 Bingo. Chump change for us old boomers. Kawasaki all the way. I just bought the 2023 RS Cafe.
@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου
@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου Жыл бұрын
In many places insurance varies on make and model, the mt would have higher insurance than the kawasaki
@kentucky_brew3678
@kentucky_brew3678 10 ай бұрын
@@siamsunsets6464okay kid 😂
@gerardsalmon4960
@gerardsalmon4960 Жыл бұрын
I really like the Kawi , would like to see Honda update my 919 to compete with these.
@cp4512
@cp4512 Жыл бұрын
I love the looks of the Kwak Z900RS 😍 Beautiful bike.
@scottrockwell6772
@scottrockwell6772 Жыл бұрын
The Z1 was the answer to the Honda 750 4 which dominated in line 4's in the 70's. The classic tail fin was the kawi's look and style.
@marcello66
@marcello66 Жыл бұрын
The Kawa is so much more beautiful in every aspect.
@alangriff1
@alangriff1 Жыл бұрын
A great comparison. But I have to disagree that a $2000 price difference IS an influential decider in my book. It all comes down to preference though in the end. I own a 2021 black and gold XSR 900 and am very happy with it.
@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel
@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel Жыл бұрын
Nothing sounds better than a triple. I am either going to get this or the triumph triple.
@mikester1984
@mikester1984 Жыл бұрын
Love both bikes but i got the 22' XSR900 in blue and im loving this lil rocket 🚀💙 recently installed the Mivv x-m5 full exhaust and its sounds lovely.
@Choirboyjr11
@Choirboyjr11 Жыл бұрын
So happy Yamaha fixed the frame on this. I had the previous gen XSR and man that bike would get unsettled so easily in a corner. It cracked me up when Yamaha boasted a 50% stiffer frame when this generation came out. I haven't ridden the new one, but I hope to soon.
@dsofe4879
@dsofe4879 Жыл бұрын
I own one, it's definitely stiff as a board now. Lower steering head and lengthened swingarm make a huge difference, alongside the stiffer chassis. It handles like an absolute dream.
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
@@dsofe4879 2020 saw the increases in stiffness. I own the 60th anniversary Yamaha white and red factory sports special and it's fantastic on road and track!
@kloppskalli
@kloppskalli Жыл бұрын
nothing beats analog gauges
@markhall3434
@markhall3434 9 ай бұрын
Maybe for the Z900RS, Kawasaki went Retro on the horsepower output as well? The Z900 is more like 125 HP?
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 9 ай бұрын
No. They did it by cams, compression, tune, heavier flywheel, and gearing to make it pull harder and smoother in the lower-mid rpms where the bike is most often used. Some talk about making the internal changes to get more power, but it's just not worth it. A simple tune, pipe, and intake with get you +5-8hp and improve the fuel mapping which had to be choked for emissions.
@NightWolfsHAMMER
@NightWolfsHAMMER 8 ай бұрын
I love the XSR900s styling. I find the MT09 to be super ugly, so the XSR900 being a just so slightly tamer, better looking more retro design MT09, I love it. Love the performance of the mt09, hate the style. XSR900 fixes that imo.
@mikelreyna878
@mikelreyna878 Жыл бұрын
Nice video fellas. Question, wouldn’t the Z900RS SE be more of a comparison since the XSR seems to be outfitted a little better? Anyone rode the SE and the standard RS? Noticeable difference?
@Justrideit.
@Justrideit. Жыл бұрын
The SE's rear Öhlins suspension was not very impressive compared to the standard one. It's because the standard's suspension is so good. The front Brembo brakes are clearly superior.
@johntheaccountant5594
@johntheaccountant5594 Жыл бұрын
I am not a speed merchant so the retro styling is important to me and the Kawasaki wins for the retro looks.
@MotoTvWoodsFarm
@MotoTvWoodsFarm Жыл бұрын
Pretty bikes for pretty boys. The engine and frame in Yamaha is better. The modern high quality detailing is better on the Yamaha. Kawasaki have improved on faithful reproduction of an old classic the profile is from a by gone age. Kawasaki make some eye candy choose whatever makes you smile. I am with Yamaha with this
@farhanmohammed1059
@farhanmohammed1059 Жыл бұрын
Hello guys you are 2 days late with this lol. Just picked a Z900rs 2 daysa ago. Same color in video. Now I need to watch the video hahhah.
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